@jeffey0217 For the whole set I'd probably say between $500 and $750 dollars at the most. If you're interested in selling the items, I think you'd be better off selling them all separately (ie monitory, ram, printer, graphics card, etc.)
@smartalex61 Thanks for that info I've been searching for a while any good websites I can check to see what the parts are worth since you recommend striping it out and selling it I'd appreciate it if not no worries
@jeffey0217 Usually what I do is I just look on eBay to see what other people are selling it for and undercut them buy a few dollars; that way you know that yours will be sold in no time!
@smartalex61 Where did you get IBM Graphing Assistant? I've been looking for that everywhere online but can't find it. Not even (broken) Vetusware has it? :(
@cr1901 Actually, I did get if from Vetusware. Is it not there anymore? Or maybe I got if from "The Underdogs." It's been so long though I'm not 100% sure
@smartalex61 Vetusware has been down, and the mirror (site abandonware.4shared.com, password 'abandonware'. The password is written on the Vetusware forums for the viewing public, so I'm guessing its alright to post this.) which is attempting to reupload all the downloaded software does not have it. "Home of The Underdogs" does not have it, as far as I checked. Would you be willing to upload your copy to the Vetusware mirror? I'd be eternally grateful.
@cr1901 I'm sorry, what piece of software were we talking about? I've been away from home for awhile; and actually only have my laptop with me and won't be home until August. If you want i can Email it to you; just message me your E-Mail address. (Wouldn't recommend posting it here)
@smartalex61 I was referring to 'IBM Graphing Assistant.' I sent my email to you in a message, and would greatly appreciate it if you could send me a copy of that software when you get the chance (if you won't be home until August, I'm certainly patient enough to wait). Thank you so much!
@ZVONIMIR111 I don't think my 2003 HP can handle it well. Technically it meets the system requirements, but it'll just run to slow I think. Plus 7 is expensive. And your Dad is right about XP, it's been out since 2001 I'm sure is the oldest Windows version with the largest user base ever after being out for 10 years. I feel like people abandoned Windows 95 as soon as 98 came out, and 98 with ME, etc.
@smartalex61 yeah, it's expensive. i have got one if you need: windows 7 ultimate, hp branded, no product key, also activated. check about turning off services on windows 7 if you need some speed.
@ZVONIMIR111 Windows XP is far more stable. Microsoft products have been getting very glitchy as of late and I believe it is because of Gate's retirement. I would use XP over Vista AND 7 anyday.
@BilisNegra If that's really an 1983 computer then I didn't have HD, it was way too expensive and wouldn't be much bigger than a regular floppy. My first HD, back in 1988 had only 10Mb and cost me more than the whole computer, not to mention the huge controller board that you also had to purchase.
@dadoo1617 Haha, personne ne peut pirater l'ordinateur, heureusement, car il n'est pas connecté à Internet. Je parie qu'il ne serait pas difficile à faire si.
@TheToploaderwasher Great question! The computers that don't work very well I just keep in a closet and almost never, and this one along with my Compaq Presario I always keep set up in my room.
IBM PC's were VERY fast. I have an IBM PC XT 286, Yes XT 286 not AT, it is extremely rare and still works perfectly, I used it all the way upto 1998 to play EGA DOS games. The EGA card could be tweaked into doing 800 x 600, again totally unbeleivable as EGA is 640 x 350 but yes it did do it. It was faster than a lot of 286 AT's at the time and had no problem playing games designed for 386 machines. It was even fast enough to play 4 channel amiga MOD files through it's beeper.
@hedsonr Ha, I grew up with a mouse. But I remember being little and going to my uncle's house, and asking him how he uses his computer without a mouse!
I had a friend with an IBM XT way back but he didn't have the HDD or EGA. I suggest you look up Grand Prix Circuit, Top Gun, Marble Madness and Space/King's Quest. :)
I have never used a version of dos that old, did that speech software you ran come with dos? If not what is it and where can I get it??? Great Video I'd love to see more
@remagoediv No, it did not come with Dos. I posted how to get that program in the upload description. Just so you know, it probably won't work well on modern computers (because it'll run way to fast). It'd work better in a Dos emulator like DosBox.
Don't ever lose that KB. From a 286 to the latest core processors, if you have the mini-din the key boards are compatible, but the XT will only work with XT keyboards and there are a different number of keys. You should really try to get a 286, there are a lot more games that work with the 286 that won't work with an XT. Is this a cga system or an ega system?
@christo930 Now that I have watched the whole thing, it's obviously ega. You should try to get a copy of geos. Geos is very similar to windows 3.x and will work on an XT provided you have enough ram, which I think is 640k if me memory serves me correctly. AOL used to use it for their access software which is why you could have a full gui with an XT for AOL.
@christo930 Yeah, I've thought about installing Geos but I feel like it just wouldn't be the same after that... And also I don't have much room left on this Hard Drive, even in those days you had to sacrifice files in order to make use of your 10mb hard drive.
@christo930 I've thought about getting a 286 card to install in here, but the only thing is they are VERY rare, and when one does pop up on eBay they are very expensive. (I wouldn't want to pay more than $25 on something like that, and I've seen them priced well over $100.)
Don't ever lose that KB. From a 286 to the latest core processors, if you have the mini-din the key boards are compatible, but the XT will only work with XT keyboards and there are a different number of keys. You should really try to get a 286, there are a lot more games that work with the 286 that won't work with an XT. Is this a cga system or an ega system?
@the731272 Dot Matrix printers are really loud, thank goodness we have inkjets and laser printers nowadays! Although I admire the simplicity and reliability of Dot Matrix printers...
I love Alley Cat!!! When I was 7 yo, I used to duel the dog: I rushed to him, and then I jumped over it, and repeated the process again and again, until the dog catched me! It was so funny.
What was the use of people having computers back then?? I was born in 85 so I really don't remember much about the 80's. I didn't really look like you could do much with these computers.. Interesting nonetheless though..
@Dms12444 Could be, that wasn't too uncommon back then. I even have a video comparing an Apple and Cannon printer that are the same thing, check it out if you want.
@winerrs I just posted it in the video description (since you can't post internet links in comments). Just to warn you, this program will run way to fast on modern computers and you probably won't be able to understand what it's saying. I would recommend using it either on an old computer or in DosBox (a dos emulator that can be downloaded online). The "say" program always runs too fast for me, but the "Speech" program should work fine.
So, apparently you're using an EGA card with a CGA monitor to be able to display 16 colours simultaneously. Which setting would you have to use in a program that supports that? Tandy Graphics, or simply EGA?
Select EGA. All of the EGA modes work with this CGA monitor except 640×350. I would have liked to get IBM's EGA monitor, but there expensive and hard to come by. Tandy, even though uses mostly the same modes, uses different hardware and is not compatible with EGA (even if both are the same mode).
@VintageJunior 1.) It's different for every card, just get the name of the card from the person you buy it from (like eBay) since it probably won't say on the card. Then just Google the name of the card along with "Jumper Settings" and you should find what you're looking for. Some of the later cards actually could detect the monitor themselves and did not include jumpers.
When I was younger, I was stuck with these types of machines for a few years while all my friends had 386s and 486s. I got new parts and even extra machines on occasion, but was always stuck with the biggest two drawbacks: the 4.77mhz 8088 CPU, and the CGA graphics. No Wolfenstein for me.
I learned a lot from using those, though, from repair to programming, which influences me even today. So I look back on them fondly. I still have most of them in storage somewhere, too!
Neat! It's always fun to take them out and play with them every few years too. That's what I do, unfortunately I don't have enough room to have them all set up at once.
Not really, I got all of these pieces for around $150 off of eBay. The only ones that are really worth money are the original IBM PC's from 1981 with 160kb floppy disk drives. I've seen those go for thousands of dollars. XT's and later PC's are pretty common.
Wow, now there's an old friend I haven't seen in a while. This was the first computer I ever used, I had the exact same setup, printer and all.. Great upload.
Oh gosh, that's happened to me so many times. I see a computer on the side of the road or at a yardsale, and I say to myself I just don't have room for it! But later I regret not getting it. And also IBM PC's are beyond my time as well, this computer was made 7 years before I was born. The first computer we had was a Compaq Presario CDS 520 all-in-one in 1994. So I learned how to use a computer using Windows 3.1, and a little bit of DOS.
First computer i used was a Power Macintosh 7300. I moved up to windows when i was 6 years old. It started as 3.1, but quickly moved up to 95, then 98. XP was a huge change for me.
Yeah, I remember I was really reluctant to update my Compaq to Windows 95, but we had to do it in order to use newer programs. The computer I use now is an HP from 2003, and I still have XP. I never wanted to update to Vista, but I have thought about updating to Windows 7 but I just don't want to spend the money right now. Plus I would have to buy more RAM and a better graphics card in order for it to run smoothely. Plus I'm just so used to XP by now, I can practically use it with my eyes closed
Even with more ram and a better video card, I wouldn't bother upgrading that PC. Windows 7 will still run best on new hardware, so I'd just wait till you buy a new computer.
@smartalex61 upgrading to windows 95 was hard for me to do too, my dad was a computer guy and we were running on 5170's with DOS, also had Windows 3.1 but I didn't like it. I liked that old DOS command line, when my dad purchased new computers with windows 95, I wanted DOS back.
@PILMAN I remember the "big 95", win 3.1 was a toy for most of us as all the games were dos, everybody had 386's or 486's so upgrading to win 95 would mean all your games ran slower.
So we all stuck to DOS, I had built my own boot menu that automatically configured EMS / XMS memory and the necesarry drivers depending on what game I was going to play. Oh man all those batch files, and the day I caught the flip virus from a magazine, back then viruses low level formated drives! THE HORROR!
I'm thinking the Audio CD just came out around that time and a lot of people were still listening to music on vinyl, and you had to use 5-1/4 inch floppies because there wasn't 3-1/2 around, let alone a cd reader.
Nice job keeping the thing alive! I've been trying to get my hands on one, but I haven't found one for cheap. My oldest computer is a Dell 316LT. Its specs are 80386SX-16, 80387-25 math coprocessor, 20 MB hard drive, 4 MB ram. It is having video card problems and I don't think it'll last much longer. And again, didn't think there were any working pc/xt pcs left!
I got one XT too, but I got a more RAM in mine since I added a 256Kb Memory Expansion. I also got an early soundblaster (CT1600) and a green mono monitor (5151).
I got the IBM MDA adapter to go with the monitor, but I'm curently using an ATI "Small Wonder" Graphics Solution with it because of it's ability to do CGA graphics on mono monitors.
That floopy drive sounded pretty dry. you should consider to lubricate the r/w head assembly rails.
It has IBM's EGA graphics card. I tried installing a Paradise EGA Autoswitch originally but it made the floppy drive run continuously for some reason. I've thought about adding an SB card like you did, but I couldn't think of any programs that could run on an XT that would work with it besides 8088 Corruption. (Which one's do you use with it?) Also I never heard of such a graphics card that lets you use a Mono monitor with a CGA card, I'd love to see a video of it!
Lucky you, the IBM EGA adapter is not common, it's actually pretty rare (at leas if you got a working 5154 monitor with it).
I also agree that getting SoundBlaster programs that'll work on an XT is a pain. A handfull of games does, but they'll run pretty slow.
The soundblaster I use is the SoundBlaster pro 2, the first soundblaster that could (optionally) use some of the signal lines of the 16-bit part of the 16-bit ISA bus.
My system got no hard drive, so I can't run anything >360Kb.
Yeah, I got the card from eBay for about $25 about a year ago. I've never come across a decently priced 5154 though, and I actually feel lucky to have gotten the 5153 which can be pretty highly priced as well. The only thing the 5153 can't do is EGA mode's 640x350 w/ 16 colors, but not many programs use that mode anyway.
Also, if you have a Hard Drive controller in that machine it's actually not that hard to install a hard drive (I had to replace mine once). I can't imagine not having an HD.
As others said, there isn't really any command in DOS that shuts the computer off. The closest would be "exit", which will shut down the Command-Line Interepter IF more than one is open (like if you are running DOS from Windows).
DOS itself doesn't use temporary files like Windows does, but be aware that some DOS programs does (you should shut those off before shutting off the computer).
Yeah, I used ctr-alt-del after Alley Cat because there's no apparent way to quit out of it, then the printer just noticed that it was out of paper (which causes it to honk to let me know).
DOS doesn't have any way to shut it down because it didn't need it... you could switch the pc off.
anyway... the power source COULDN'T switch the computer off... you had to do it manually by pressing the button (AT standard power source)... begining with pentium, pc's used ATX power source scheme... which are designed that way that motherboard controlls power source (PSU),not otherwise...
The Apple I was the first personal computer that I know of, released in 1977; 4 years before the IBM PC. Of course before that they had those huge machines like the ENIAC which was the first electric computer (1946).
Oh yeah? How so? I would recommend using FreeDOS for modern computers, and you could get an old version of Microsoft Office and use Arachne as an internet browser.
Yeah, DOS programs can do a lot of what modern programs do, just not as well and they're not as easy to use. Also it's easy to write your own programs for DOS with Microsoft's Qbasic.
MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows 1.03. Windows 1.x actually works in color when you use it with an EGA or VGA graphics card, but most people are used to seeing it used with a CGA graphics card where it's black and white.
you can run Windows 2.03
marcink96 1 week ago
jakie dziwne odgłosy wydaje ten komp
james120ize 1 month ago
Can u please tell me where I can get Tran? And also, why have u stopped making videos?
thepirategamerboy12 2 months ago
Is the Hard Drive a 10Mb Seagate ST412 ?
MrComputerfan 3 months ago
faster than vista.... :3
TheToploaderwasher 3 months ago
Sniff sniff I miss mine now........
ashia4life313 3 months ago
Wow it´s good!, I ever worked in PC-XT
Sorry for my bad English, I´m Brazilian I love PC-XT and old stunts
EDUNEWES 4 months ago
Is that Y2K compliant?
MrJavaman5 7 months ago
@MrJavaman5 I'm not even sure lol. It doesn't remember the date when I shut it off so I just never bother setting it.
smartalex61 7 months ago
@smartalex61 It's loud!!
KartSeven1 7 months ago
Damn that thing loud
Goldenfury12 7 months ago
can that thing play the game doom? doom is an old game that could play on that machine
Wesley683 7 months ago
@Wesley683 Unfortunately no, Doom is one step ahead of this generation of computers
smartalex61 7 months ago
@smartalex61 crap.thats sad.
Wesley683 7 months ago
@Wesley683, No, because Doom is assembled in 1993 year and can be launched only on 386 processor PC with 4 Megabytes Of RAM
AlexMagic777 4 months ago
@AlexMagic777 ok
Wesley683 4 months ago
Could you kindly make a modified version of 3D model just for the keyboard. I want the NumPad section is separated just like in AT keyboard. thanks
xt8089 7 months ago
I wish i had this computer
80sCompaqPC 8 months ago
I have this very computer I'm just wondering what might it be worth?
jeffey0217 9 months ago
@jeffey0217 For the whole set I'd probably say between $500 and $750 dollars at the most. If you're interested in selling the items, I think you'd be better off selling them all separately (ie monitory, ram, printer, graphics card, etc.)
smartalex61 9 months ago
@smartalex61 Thanks for that info I've been searching for a while any good websites I can check to see what the parts are worth since you recommend striping it out and selling it I'd appreciate it if not no worries
jeffey0217 9 months ago
@jeffey0217 Usually what I do is I just look on eBay to see what other people are selling it for and undercut them buy a few dollars; that way you know that yours will be sold in no time!
smartalex61 9 months ago
@smartalex61 Where did you get IBM Graphing Assistant? I've been looking for that everywhere online but can't find it. Not even (broken) Vetusware has it? :(
cr1901 8 months ago
@cr1901 Actually, I did get if from Vetusware. Is it not there anymore? Or maybe I got if from "The Underdogs." It's been so long though I'm not 100% sure
smartalex61 8 months ago
@smartalex61 Vetusware has been down, and the mirror (site abandonware.4shared.com, password 'abandonware'. The password is written on the Vetusware forums for the viewing public, so I'm guessing its alright to post this.) which is attempting to reupload all the downloaded software does not have it. "Home of The Underdogs" does not have it, as far as I checked. Would you be willing to upload your copy to the Vetusware mirror? I'd be eternally grateful.
cr1901 8 months ago
@cr1901 I'm sorry, what piece of software were we talking about? I've been away from home for awhile; and actually only have my laptop with me and won't be home until August. If you want i can Email it to you; just message me your E-Mail address. (Wouldn't recommend posting it here)
smartalex61 7 months ago
@smartalex61 I was referring to 'IBM Graphing Assistant.' I sent my email to you in a message, and would greatly appreciate it if you could send me a copy of that software when you get the chance (if you won't be home until August, I'm certainly patient enough to wait). Thank you so much!
cr1901 7 months ago
@smartalex61 Actually I friended you first so that I can send you a personal message since you have 'friend lock' enabled.
cr1901 7 months ago
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cr1901 2 months ago
@smartalex61 Vetusware has been down since March*.
cr1901 8 months ago
I played Crysis II on my IBM PC. Flight simulator too! My old IBM will blow your Alienware to hell....
My IBM and I will TAKEOVER THE WORLD!!!!!
pfffffft cough cough pffffffffffffffffft
RuggedBrotha 10 months ago
Sounds like a commercial airliner on it's take-off roll.
z120p 10 months ago
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A 28 year old "fossile"
CANVECVIDEO 1 year ago
2:40 - TREEEEEEECH (printer's sound)
2:41 - (???????????) the printer has forgot the print?
I luv the old-school PCs and printers. S2
MarioJuniorBR 1 year ago
@smartalex61 I also have XP! ;)
KartSeven1 1 year ago
@VZIPTEAM No, I still use Windows XP on my main computer.
smartalex61 1 year ago
@smartalex61 why don't you switch to 7? Windows XP is history as my dad says.
ZVONIMIR111 1 year ago
@ZVONIMIR111 I don't think my 2003 HP can handle it well. Technically it meets the system requirements, but it'll just run to slow I think. Plus 7 is expensive. And your Dad is right about XP, it's been out since 2001 I'm sure is the oldest Windows version with the largest user base ever after being out for 10 years. I feel like people abandoned Windows 95 as soon as 98 came out, and 98 with ME, etc.
smartalex61 1 year ago
@smartalex61 yeah, it's expensive. i have got one if you need: windows 7 ultimate, hp branded, no product key, also activated. check about turning off services on windows 7 if you need some speed.
ZVONIMIR111 1 year ago
@ZVONIMIR111
windows 7 sucks
windows 7 slower than XP and your old programs not work more
windows XP start faster to than 7
MichaelYoshiFan 10 months ago
@MichaelYoshiFan it is slower than xp if you run it on a 800 mhz computer.
ZVONIMIR111 10 months ago
@ZVONIMIR111 Windows XP is far more stable. Microsoft products have been getting very glitchy as of late and I believe it is because of Gate's retirement. I would use XP over Vista AND 7 anyday.
HemaZev 9 months ago
It's hard to tell the voice synth sound from the HD noise, hahahahah!!!!
BilisNegra 1 year ago
@BilisNegra If that's really an 1983 computer then I didn't have HD, it was way too expensive and wouldn't be much bigger than a regular floppy. My first HD, back in 1988 had only 10Mb and cost me more than the whole computer, not to mention the huge controller board that you also had to purchase.
mycelows 11 months ago
ahh.. the good old days.. when pressing CTRL ALT DEL actually MEANT something..
kiyotewolf 1 year ago
@kiyotewolf Control+Alternate+Delete = Restart
KartSeven1 1 year ago
Matricial printer
dadoo1617 1 year ago
@dadoo1617 Oui
smartalex61 1 year ago
tu cache ton code, t'a peur qu'on te pirate l'ordinateur ? mdr lol
dadoo1617 1 year ago
@dadoo1617 Haha, personne ne peut pirater l'ordinateur, heureusement, car il n'est pas connecté à Internet. Je parie qu'il ne serait pas difficile à faire si.
smartalex61 1 year ago
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microsoft windows OS system is still inside the IBM computer
bestamerica 1 year ago
can you get an parallel external HDD for it, like hakemon did and/or install Windows 2.03 or 3.0?
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KartSeven1 1 year ago
I just *loved* the clicking keyboard and the soft bleeping of the mfm harddisk.
BartManNL 1 year ago
@BartManNL Yes, those clicky keyboards will never die in the hearts of computer enthusiasts...
smartalex61 1 year ago
My god, we've come a long way.
VolaticusDiabolus 1 year ago
Where do put all of these computers when you're done filming it?
TheToploaderwasher 1 year ago
@TheToploaderwasher Great question! The computers that don't work very well I just keep in a closet and almost never, and this one along with my Compaq Presario I always keep set up in my room.
smartalex61 1 year ago
IBM PC's were VERY fast. I have an IBM PC XT 286, Yes XT 286 not AT, it is extremely rare and still works perfectly, I used it all the way upto 1998 to play EGA DOS games. The EGA card could be tweaked into doing 800 x 600, again totally unbeleivable as EGA is 640 x 350 but yes it did do it. It was faster than a lot of 286 AT's at the time and had no problem playing games designed for 386 machines. It was even fast enough to play 4 channel amiga MOD files through it's beeper.
leerees 1 year ago
@leerees Wow, I would love to be able to get a 286 upgrade ISA card for this computer, but they are super rare and expensive
smartalex61 1 year ago
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hedsonr 1 year ago
Wooow, Alley Cat! Outrun! Awesome...
I grew up trying to learn how to operate those machines... When I say how was computers for these 19yo guys, they don't believe me!
First time I saw a Mouse, I said "That's fine, but useless!". LOL
hedsonr 1 year ago
@hedsonr Ha, I grew up with a mouse. But I remember being little and going to my uncle's house, and asking him how he uses his computer without a mouse!
smartalex61 1 year ago
I love old computers. They have a undeniable magic.
TheDemoniusX 1 year ago
I had a friend with an IBM XT way back but he didn't have the HDD or EGA. I suggest you look up Grand Prix Circuit, Top Gun, Marble Madness and Space/King's Quest. :)
swaaye 1 year ago
@swaaye Wow, that Marble Madness game looks really neat.
smartalex61 1 year ago
esa madre habla!!!
niocuin 1 year ago
@niocuin En Englis: "My mother has this!!!"
poopskinTheLiar 1 year ago
out run???? omg
ocomi231 1 year ago
I have never used a version of dos that old, did that speech software you ran come with dos? If not what is it and where can I get it??? Great Video I'd love to see more
remagoediv 1 year ago
@remagoediv No, it did not come with Dos. I posted how to get that program in the upload description. Just so you know, it probably won't work well on modern computers (because it'll run way to fast). It'd work better in a Dos emulator like DosBox.
smartalex61 1 year ago
Don't ever lose that KB. From a 286 to the latest core processors, if you have the mini-din the key boards are compatible, but the XT will only work with XT keyboards and there are a different number of keys. You should really try to get a 286, there are a lot more games that work with the 286 that won't work with an XT. Is this a cga system or an ega system?
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 Now that I have watched the whole thing, it's obviously ega. You should try to get a copy of geos. Geos is very similar to windows 3.x and will work on an XT provided you have enough ram, which I think is 640k if me memory serves me correctly. AOL used to use it for their access software which is why you could have a full gui with an XT for AOL.
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 Yeah, I've thought about installing Geos but I feel like it just wouldn't be the same after that... And also I don't have much room left on this Hard Drive, even in those days you had to sacrifice files in order to make use of your 10mb hard drive.
smartalex61 1 year ago
@christo930 I've thought about getting a 286 card to install in here, but the only thing is they are VERY rare, and when one does pop up on eBay they are very expensive. (I wouldn't want to pay more than $25 on something like that, and I've seen them priced well over $100.)
smartalex61 1 year ago
@smartalex61 You could just replace the whole motherboard.
christo930 1 year ago
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Don't ever lose that KB. From a 286 to the latest core processors, if you have the mini-din the key boards are compatible, but the XT will only work with XT keyboards and there are a different number of keys. You should really try to get a 286, there are a lot more games that work with the 286 that won't work with an XT. Is this a cga system or an ega system?
christo930 1 year ago
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christo930 1 year ago
i remember that printer
bman462 1 year ago
why was the printer screaming at you?
the731272 1 year ago
@the731272 Dot Matrix printers are really loud, thank goodness we have inkjets and laser printers nowadays! Although I admire the simplicity and reliability of Dot Matrix printers...
smartalex61 1 year ago
I love Alley Cat!!! When I was 7 yo, I used to duel the dog: I rushed to him, and then I jumped over it, and repeated the process again and again, until the dog catched me! It was so funny.
omegakentaurus 1 year ago
lol try working at an office with this
jackedup447 1 year ago
What was the use of people having computers back then?? I was born in 85 so I really don't remember much about the 80's. I didn't really look like you could do much with these computers.. Interesting nonetheless though..
ATLien333 1 year ago
Out of curiosity, what printer is that?
Dms12444 1 year ago
@Dms12444 It's an IBM 5152 Graphics printer. (9-pin dot matrix).
smartalex61 1 year ago
@smartalex61 Thank you, I was wondering since I have a Panasonic that looks just like it; possibly re-badged but probably another clone.
Dms12444 1 year ago
@Dms12444 Could be, that wasn't too uncommon back then. I even have a video comparing an Apple and Cannon printer that are the same thing, check it out if you want.
smartalex61 1 year ago
this computer has an awsome keyboard
simon1234simon 1 year ago
Where can you get this Speech program from this computer?
winerrs 1 year ago
@winerrs I just posted it in the video description (since you can't post internet links in comments). Just to warn you, this program will run way to fast on modern computers and you probably won't be able to understand what it's saying. I would recommend using it either on an old computer or in DosBox (a dos emulator that can be downloaded online). The "say" program always runs too fast for me, but the "Speech" program should work fine.
smartalex61 1 year ago
WoW
RootBeerBlueBG 1 year ago
So, apparently you're using an EGA card with a CGA monitor to be able to display 16 colours simultaneously. Which setting would you have to use in a program that supports that? Tandy Graphics, or simply EGA?
VintageJunior 1 year ago
Select EGA. All of the EGA modes work with this CGA monitor except 640×350. I would have liked to get IBM's EGA monitor, but there expensive and hard to come by. Tandy, even though uses mostly the same modes, uses different hardware and is not compatible with EGA (even if both are the same mode).
smartalex61 1 year ago
@smartalex61
Thanks! I will keep that in mind.
VintageJunior 1 year ago
@smartalex61 Okay, thanks, but I'd have to know more I think...
1. What jumper settings should I use on the card - standard EGA, or CGA?
2. Do I need any specific drivers or are graphics cards "Plug'n'Play"?
VintageJunior 1 year ago
@VintageJunior 1.) It's different for every card, just get the name of the card from the person you buy it from (like eBay) since it probably won't say on the card. Then just Google the name of the card along with "Jumper Settings" and you should find what you're looking for. Some of the later cards actually could detect the monitor themselves and did not include jumpers.
2.) You shouldn't need any drivers.
smartalex61 1 year ago
I remember when I playing Alley Cat 8 years old
TheKukkakallo 2 years ago
alley cat :D
matik77771 2 years ago
I had to compile COBOL programs on that exact model. Nice to hear the "jet engine" sound again.
DosRockx 2 years ago
Is that one of those clickity-clack keyboards?
rogueamp 2 years ago
Yes, it's a click keyboard. I have a PS/2 port one too to use with my more modern computers.
smartalex61 2 years ago
When I was younger, I was stuck with these types of machines for a few years while all my friends had 386s and 486s. I got new parts and even extra machines on occasion, but was always stuck with the biggest two drawbacks: the 4.77mhz 8088 CPU, and the CGA graphics. No Wolfenstein for me.
I learned a lot from using those, though, from repair to programming, which influences me even today. So I look back on them fondly. I still have most of them in storage somewhere, too!
FyberOptic 2 years ago
Neat! It's always fun to take them out and play with them every few years too. That's what I do, unfortunately I don't have enough room to have them all set up at once.
smartalex61 2 years ago
OH! i thought the text>speech thing was the dot matrix printer printing like a typewriter or something!
16mmDJ 2 years ago
Hahah! wow! ill love to try one of those someday see how technology had progressed n stuff, love to poke about inside xD
devilzzzzzzzzzz 2 years ago
Wow my grandpa has one of these in his shop lol
zxBludShedxz 2 years ago
Does he still use it? There is a very similar one in a local shop in my town, but the owner never uses it.
smartalex61 2 years ago
no, but I think it still works, aren't these worth alot of money?
zxBludShedxz 2 years ago
Not really, I got all of these pieces for around $150 off of eBay. The only ones that are really worth money are the original IBM PC's from 1981 with 160kb floppy disk drives. I've seen those go for thousands of dollars. XT's and later PC's are pretty common.
smartalex61 2 years ago
Wow, now there's an old friend I haven't seen in a while. This was the first computer I ever used, I had the exact same setup, printer and all.. Great upload.
4MacSake 2 years ago
Thanks! It took my quite awhile to get all of the original components together, especially the CGA monitor.
smartalex61 2 years ago
Damn. I saw one of these for sale the other day in a garage sale. I wanted to buy it, but didn't. This makes me feel stupid.
Nice vid. I love nostalgia. I never really used IBM PC's, they're a little beyond my time. But i still love the nostalgia factor.
olimar2001 2 years ago
Oh gosh, that's happened to me so many times. I see a computer on the side of the road or at a yardsale, and I say to myself I just don't have room for it! But later I regret not getting it. And also IBM PC's are beyond my time as well, this computer was made 7 years before I was born. The first computer we had was a Compaq Presario CDS 520 all-in-one in 1994. So I learned how to use a computer using Windows 3.1, and a little bit of DOS.
smartalex61 2 years ago
First computer i used was a Power Macintosh 7300. I moved up to windows when i was 6 years old. It started as 3.1, but quickly moved up to 95, then 98. XP was a huge change for me.
olimar2001 2 years ago
Yeah, I remember I was really reluctant to update my Compaq to Windows 95, but we had to do it in order to use newer programs. The computer I use now is an HP from 2003, and I still have XP. I never wanted to update to Vista, but I have thought about updating to Windows 7 but I just don't want to spend the money right now. Plus I would have to buy more RAM and a better graphics card in order for it to run smoothely. Plus I'm just so used to XP by now, I can practically use it with my eyes closed
smartalex61 2 years ago
Even with more ram and a better video card, I wouldn't bother upgrading that PC. Windows 7 will still run best on new hardware, so I'd just wait till you buy a new computer.
captain150 2 years ago
@smartalex61 upgrading to windows 95 was hard for me to do too, my dad was a computer guy and we were running on 5170's with DOS, also had Windows 3.1 but I didn't like it. I liked that old DOS command line, when my dad purchased new computers with windows 95, I wanted DOS back.
PILMAN 1 year ago
@PILMAN Windows 95 is ms dos based F.y.i
MixerVM 1 year ago
@PILMAN I remember the "big 95", win 3.1 was a toy for most of us as all the games were dos, everybody had 386's or 486's so upgrading to win 95 would mean all your games ran slower.
So we all stuck to DOS, I had built my own boot menu that automatically configured EMS / XMS memory and the necesarry drivers depending on what game I was going to play. Oh man all those batch files, and the day I caught the flip virus from a magazine, back then viruses low level formated drives! THE HORROR!
leerees 1 year ago
@leerees Yipes! Luckily this was before my time!
smartalex61 1 year ago
the computer administrator of our school has one of theese lolz this guy is awesome :D
Jonassssss6 2 years ago
it can play Call of Duty 5?
jajajajaja
TutosChiy1001 2 years ago
wow im really jealous! :D i wanna have one too!
nsawilla 2 years ago
there once was a time when people said "Who needs 1GB of space!"
Good times :)
MadDogMeh 2 years ago 2
Yes! Back when there was a 640kb RAM barrier Bill Gates said you'd never need more than that anyway!
smartalex61 2 years ago
I remember programs like PCTools and SuperDos.
Good times.
This was a good computer for programming in assembly.
marcoufologist 2 years ago
Excellent Video, it remind me the first XT which I purchased for U$400.- Thx !
outsider865 2 years ago
Yay lets play counter strike in this PC 8D
ricardohmdo 2 years ago 2
No mouse back in that time ?
btw this is awesome
DediXD 2 years ago
No mouse? There are at least 3 at 3:57 :b
Snuffomatica 2 years ago
i bought one of these from second hand store had to ebay it so farewll my old friend
jeffery68036803 2 years ago
The Outrun title screen looks great!
simonsko1 2 years ago
alley cat fucking rulz man ;)
cripii5 2 years ago
I have an IBM Personal Computer XT with the IBM 5153 color monitor. It still works!
hondolespaul 2 years ago
I'm thinking the Audio CD just came out around that time and a lot of people were still listening to music on vinyl, and you had to use 5-1/4 inch floppies because there wasn't 3-1/2 around, let alone a cd reader.
Amishman35 2 years ago
i like old stuff any agrees?
drum00 2 years ago
that printer is great
Commodore477 2 years ago
Nice job keeping the thing alive! I've been trying to get my hands on one, but I haven't found one for cheap. My oldest computer is a Dell 316LT. Its specs are 80386SX-16, 80387-25 math coprocessor, 20 MB hard drive, 4 MB ram. It is having video card problems and I don't think it'll last much longer. And again, didn't think there were any working pc/xt pcs left!
linuxrobotdude 2 years ago
Does that have a Seagate disk?
douro20 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it's an off brand, I'll have to get back to you on that though.
smartalex61 2 years ago
That XT seems to have been posessed by Trogdor :p
poopskinTheLiar 2 years ago
Haha, yeah. He eventually got a new one, didn't he?
smartalex61 2 years ago
WOW! crap specs10mb? lol! Didn't know that specs were that low lol... Still amazed how its still survived, btw that alley cat game looks fun :D
dalek22 2 years ago
lol throw that away.~!~~~!~!!!!
RIGAMORTIS22 2 years ago
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poopskinTheLiar 2 years ago
@RIGAMORTIS:
Nottachance!
Throwing this away would be like throwing a copy of the first superman comic away!
poopskinTheLiar 2 years ago
u mean the first superman from action comics that was printed in 1938? lol my buddy owns one of those.
RIGAMORTIS22 2 years ago
Could you do a video of whats inside of the computer like what card is what? Thanks.
bassmanwright 2 years ago
Sure! I'll try to do it sometime this month.
smartalex61 2 years ago
Cool XT. What video card do you got in it?
I got one XT too, but I got a more RAM in mine since I added a 256Kb Memory Expansion. I also got an early soundblaster (CT1600) and a green mono monitor (5151).
I got the IBM MDA adapter to go with the monitor, but I'm curently using an ATI "Small Wonder" Graphics Solution with it because of it's ability to do CGA graphics on mono monitors.
That floopy drive sounded pretty dry. you should consider to lubricate the r/w head assembly rails.
TheMovieCreator 3 years ago
It has IBM's EGA graphics card. I tried installing a Paradise EGA Autoswitch originally but it made the floppy drive run continuously for some reason. I've thought about adding an SB card like you did, but I couldn't think of any programs that could run on an XT that would work with it besides 8088 Corruption. (Which one's do you use with it?) Also I never heard of such a graphics card that lets you use a Mono monitor with a CGA card, I'd love to see a video of it!
PS Floppy does need cleaning.
smartalex61 3 years ago
Lucky you, the IBM EGA adapter is not common, it's actually pretty rare (at leas if you got a working 5154 monitor with it).
I also agree that getting SoundBlaster programs that'll work on an XT is a pain. A handfull of games does, but they'll run pretty slow.
The soundblaster I use is the SoundBlaster pro 2, the first soundblaster that could (optionally) use some of the signal lines of the 16-bit part of the 16-bit ISA bus.
My system got no hard drive, so I can't run anything >360Kb.
TheMovieCreator 3 years ago
Yeah, I got the card from eBay for about $25 about a year ago. I've never come across a decently priced 5154 though, and I actually feel lucky to have gotten the 5153 which can be pretty highly priced as well. The only thing the 5153 can't do is EGA mode's 640x350 w/ 16 colors, but not many programs use that mode anyway.
Also, if you have a Hard Drive controller in that machine it's actually not that hard to install a hard drive (I had to replace mine once). I can't imagine not having an HD.
smartalex61 3 years ago
I've now filmed and uploaded the film of my system. It's in two parts, so you should watch them in the right order.
TheMovieCreator 3 years ago
As others said, there isn't really any command in DOS that shuts the computer off. The closest would be "exit", which will shut down the Command-Line Interepter IF more than one is open (like if you are running DOS from Windows).
DOS itself doesn't use temporary files like Windows does, but be aware that some DOS programs does (you should shut those off before shutting off the computer).
TheMovieCreator 3 years ago
What happened witht he printer after alley cat? Did you use ctrl-alt-del?
cutebikerwannabe 3 years ago
Yeah, I used ctr-alt-del after Alley Cat because there's no apparent way to quit out of it, then the printer just noticed that it was out of paper (which causes it to honk to let me know).
smartalex61 3 years ago
still my favorite computer
Aqwert76 3 years ago
DOS doesn't have any way to shut it down because it didn't need it... you could switch the pc off.
anyway... the power source COULDN'T switch the computer off... you had to do it manually by pressing the button (AT standard power source)... begining with pentium, pc's used ATX power source scheme... which are designed that way that motherboard controlls power source (PSU),not otherwise...
noicereaver 3 years ago
i heard that these old computers used the word execute on the keyboard instead of enter. is it true?
brandonkr 3 years ago
Well, mine says enter, but I wouldn't be surprised to see execute on older computers though.
smartalex61 3 years ago
ok. do you know of any computers that are older than this one?
brandonkr 3 years ago
The Apple I was the first personal computer that I know of, released in 1977; 4 years before the IBM PC. Of course before that they had those huge machines like the ENIAC which was the first electric computer (1946).
smartalex61 3 years ago
ok thanks.
brandonkr 3 years ago
Hmm, I believe Windows XP actually has a command used for that called 'shutdown', however older versions of Windows and DOS have no shutdown command.
smartalex61 3 years ago
Oh yeah? How so? I would recommend using FreeDOS for modern computers, and you could get an old version of Microsoft Office and use Arachne as an internet browser.
smartalex61 3 years ago
Yeah, DOS programs can do a lot of what modern programs do, just not as well and they're not as easy to use. Also it's easy to write your own programs for DOS with Microsoft's Qbasic.
smartalex61 3 years ago
What OS were you useing there like windows 1.0 in color or something?
JimTheMingebag 3 years ago
MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows 1.03. Windows 1.x actually works in color when you use it with an EGA or VGA graphics card, but most people are used to seeing it used with a CGA graphics card where it's black and white.
smartalex61 3 years ago