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  • I'm not sure I care if a firearm won't cycle when fired limp wristed. it's like those videos of guns shooting underwater. who cares? don't limp wrist you gun. problem solved.

  • thanks for the vid...glad to see a real life test like this comparing different pistols. makes me glad to own a sig and an xd over glock...not to say that glocks aren't good guns, they just never convinced me as being a "superior" prouduct...

  • @JustPaul13 It's silly to judge a pistol inferior by just seeing one video on the Internet.

  • @esh325 i don't consider glocks inferior, just not my preference. my opinion is also a result of handling and shooting sig, xd, and glock among several other pistols...personal experience, not just watching videos. 

  • 1911's wont jam, period.

  • @ILOVEBOOBIES935 I've had them jam. They are machines and they can fail.

  • I was wondering why my gun kept jamming. First I thought it was broken but then learning about limp wristing I finally found out I was holding the gun way too tight and not letting it recoil. Thanks for the vid

  • the second gun is a Kimber 45 acp Stainless II ?

  • @surenotypeassnigga It's a Springfield TRP, it says it right before he shoots it you stupid faggot.

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  • @jah2mail i used to be able to bitch like that, then i took an arrow to the knee

  • @surenotypeassnigga I used to take arrows to my knees then I took an arrow to my knee, which in turn forced me to take arrows to my knees while at the same time taking an arrow to my knee, causing me to take more arrows to my knees instead of simply taking an arrow to my knee.

  • That just seems like a test which demonstrates that the slide is a lot heavier than the frame on a Glock. The only reason the other ones do better is because of the frame inertia.

  • Interesting video. I have personally seen limp wrist issues with dirty 1911s and Hipowers. Once I put about a few 1,000 rds or more through my hi power it would jam on my girlfriend due to her grip. I could pick it up and it ran fine. We switched back and forth to confirm. Only happens when its nice and dirty though.

  • What Caliber was the 226? 9??

  • thats why i dont buy glock

  • @ucskaterpunk This is a technique issue...literally hundreds of police and military agencies have proven the glock reliable. Its like saying your wont buy car because you can't operating the steering wheel with just your pinky finger 0_o

  • @juki009 The issue of limp wrist failures with the Glock is actually one of the most common failures officers encounter. If you search YouTube, you will find all sorts of examples of Glock limp wrist failures happening, it's also quite common outside of the LEO community. The issue is nothing like driving a car with your pinky, that's an optional behavior. For those with Glock limp wrist issues, they aren't doing it on purpose.

  • @Sturmgewehre hmmmm, the reason why I used the pinky example was because the other guy was saying that the glock is a bad handgun because you can't use it in the wrong manner of operation. Yes limp wrist issues do happen and yes people don't do it on purpose but it can be easily fixed with training. I have seen a 100lb skinny woman who is not in any way an athlete operate a glock like a pro. 

  • @juki009 The issue isn't if training can allow a 100lbs woman operate the pistol or not. The issue is that the failures can, and do, happen. If you're injured or scared silly and don't get a good grip on the pistol, it can fail to feed. I'm not saying Glocks are bad pistols (I carry a G19 every day), I'm just show that the failures can happen and it's something to be aware of.

  • @Sturmgewehre At the same time, you can find examples of them firing fine when being limp wristed. So it does not prove much. I've never heard of a documented incident of a Glock failing in a gunfight because of limp wristing. And I think if it were deemed that serious of an issue, the Glock would have been gone years ago. Just my two cents.

  • @ucskaterpunk You dont buy a glock because you are going to limp wrist it!? Just hold onto the gun like you are supposed to

  • would the compensators on the glock have anything to do with the failure the ejects because of the extra release of pressure?

  • what kind of gun is the first one

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  • Now do that with a D.E

  • If you think about the physics, whether or not the pistol functions when limp wristed would related to the pistol's weight. Specifically the non-moving parts like the frame. More weight in the frame, less likely a limp wrist would affect use.

  • So-Called Torture Tests are silly. In reality IT DOESN'T MATTER if you can drop your gun out of a helicopter 200 feet onto the pavement, run over it with a tank and then freeze it in a block of ice then bust it out with a hammer and it will come out shooting. Why? Becuase you won't! You'd be dead! Also the dirty secret as Pat Sweeney proved a few years ago, even an el Cheapo made in the Phillipines 1911 clone will withstand just about all the same Glock torture tests and come out shooting.

  • @Goatman629 This test is probably more relevant and more likely to happen then any of those. With that said, if limp wristing was a serious problem then all these pistols would be gone long ago.

  • was ur thumb sore after the 1911s

  • I know my and a few peoples beretta's really don't like limp wrist. I was surprised how well yours works, guess the slide spring must be well worn in.

  • I'm glad someone did this test.

  • hey would it be right that if you got used to, say,.40s&w that you would limpwrist a 9mm because the recoil you let the 9mm do is too mucj=h for the gun but is the right amount for the .40

    plz reply

  • @dchil15 No, you should not limp wrist at all.

  • @forrest225 i know that but you can't make the gun stay flat when firing.

  • @dchil15 The gun recoiling and you limp wristing are two entirely different things. Any time you fire, you should have a firm grip to prevent as much movement as possible. YOU DO NOT INTENTIONALLY LET THE GUN RECOIL. Understand?

  • @forrest225 i know im just... nvm

  • This is the video that I found you... lol

  • Glock pistols are the worst pistols ever.......!!!!!

  • @MarkTheKiller14  amen

  • @univrsalminds its true.glocks are for niggets only

  • This video only show that expensive guns are not good at all.

  • Good video. Demonstrates possible problems potentially affecting those whose strength has been weaken due to being wounded. My Glock 23 also jams when a specific magazine is used. I returned the gun and magazine to Glock in Smyrna Georgia and they were unable to duplicate the problem. My Glock still jams. This video, and many others on youtube, disproves Glock's reliability claim.

  • @xldda I'm sorry to hear your experience with your Glock. I have two that work fine. The majority of the people who use Glock's have good things to say about their reliability. If limp wristing was a serious a problem with Glock's, then I highly doubt 50 countries would issue Glock's to their police and armies.

  • Try shooting all of those guns "fresh" with maybe at least an hour in between.

  • @sturmgewehre i was looking up limp wristing and from what ive read it happens more with polymer guns that are recoil operated instead of blowback though they say that non polymer guns with blowback and gas operated are still capable of misfiring due to limp wrist do you know if thats true or not

  • Point taken; Don't try to shoot a Glock sideways out of a single-hand grip. Seriously though, I own a number of handguns including a Glock 22 Gen. 4, and I have had no such issue with any of them, including the Glock! What is the purpose of this video? To show that if you really try to, you can make the weapon fail?

  • @ryansilversimpson I know this is an old comment and all, but I couldn't help myself. I think that what he was trying to most effectively show was the result of "limp-wristing" a weapon. I suppose that the gun being thrown around in one's hand results in bad physics for the slide to properly operate and release the spent casings. He has another video of a couple other guns doing the same thing the Glock did. In a situation where one is weak or wounded, this might be an issue. That's all. :)

  • @ryansilversimpson No. If your injured, like if the guy shoots your arm or shoulder, etc, your ability to hold the gun is crippled. Many guns fail at this cause the cartridge isn't ejecting properly, well, like KnightInBrightArmor said. "the gun being thrown around in one's hand results in bad physics for the slide to properly operate and release the spent casings."

  • @MrChevroletEd This isn't a "shooting technique." He's trying to show, that if someone's not strong enough to maintain a firm grip on a certain gun, that it will jam. But, my previous comment still stands, in that regard.

  • If you're not strong enough to shoot a .45, buy a 9mm or a .380. In my opinion, the idea of limp wristing is completely pointless. If you're a bitch, buy a bitch gun. There, problem solved!

  • @evo8FQ400 there is no point to it this just shows what gun will jam if you limp wrist it, but i wouldnt ever think of limp wristing my guns.

  • Im a gun noob and was wondering whats the purpose of this test.

  • lol i hate and also love america for its gun laws. im from germany and if you arent in the army or something like this you can max. own !4! guns :( i wanna buy all of them but i cant -.- stupid german laws

  • the more important consideration is to have a handgun that has no manual safeties. is the 1911 more reliable in this test? uh i guess so. but it does have an annoying safety, and it's chambered in .45 which drastically reduces capacity. just IMHO i prefer glock.

  • @miker200711 first off the secondary beavertail safety on a 1911 is not annoying at all i have no problem with it. secondly the reason a 1911 has sush a low magazine capacity is because it is single stack not because it is chambered in .45.

  • @sethboy66 im pretty suyre even glocks chambered in .45, which are of course double stack, have significantly diminished magazine capacity. any handgun chambered in .45 is obviously going to have reduced magazine capacity. I believe it goes down to 12 or 13 from 17 for the glock. m92s hold 20 rounds FWIW. personally i prefer the extra capacity because a proper HP 9mm can be just as damaging as a 45

  • @miker200711 the whole enter marine corps branch of the military is turning to the 1911 because in warfare the 9mm just doesn't have sufficient power. also no m92s in production today has a 20 round magazine capacity although there is a magazine made by mec-gar that can supply you with a 18 round aftermarket magazine.

  • bunch of retarded 1911 lovers got together and made up some shit to bash all other guns

  • I can understand the concept (benefit) of polymer pistols if you must continuously carry a sidearm on duty. At the end of the day, every ounce feels like 10 pounds. One must train religiously on proper hold and understand the message that this video is illustrating.

    However, I would only trust my life to a pistol that would function 100% even if I am injured such that I cannot provide the proper hold.

    No offense, but.... 1911 and p226 for the win.

  • wats the pint in this?

    answers plz

  • that would suck if it fliped and broke your finger

  • Only time a 1911 will fail is through ammo FTF or weak mag springs.

  • I agree let's see a torture test with the same guns

  • Enjoy your carpal tunnel I guess.

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  • @desertarsenalist Bullshit, ive put 20,000 rounds thorugh my 1911, some after thrown in muck, and it never misfired unless by ammunition fail.

  • @desertarsenalist

    That first 1911 basically proved itself. Hadn't been cleaned in 10 years and fires all rounds flawlessly even when limpwristing. I think that speaks for itself.

  • @desertarsenalist lol check out his torture test glock and 1911s performed well no failures

  • @akagruntkiller I agree that they both perform well. I own both but i carry a Glock everyday.

  • Nice information. I tried limp wristing my XDM 9mm once. Apparently I left it TOO limp because it did a triple backwards cartwheel out of my hand and into the snow haha, sadly it did not cycle the round and had an empty cartridge in the chamber

  • @tfrostholm that is exactly what i was thinking, i wonder how the sr9c would do though?

  • i'm sorry but this is so stupid. any properly trained person would never shoot with an injured hand when they still have a good one

  • @pirateburke86 sorry but you are "so stupid" if you you have two injured hands you don't really have much of a choice now do you!

  • @pirateburke86 I guess you miss the point, a handgun is a 'worst case scenario' gun; which you obviously want to function in...a worst case scenario

  • @Diraphe even in a worst case scenario no on would hold a gun like that

  • @pirateburke86 thank you capt. obvious...its what people call 'a simulation'. This video isn't "How to grip when you are wounded" Its Newton at work, a semi automatic requires a certain amount of resistance to cycle properly. They are just trying to hold it as lightly as possible without dropping it. They arn't teaching any techniques here buddy this video is purely about the firearms functioning

  • @Diraphe i realize that numb nuts but if you're gonna test something do it proper. hold the gun like someone would if they had weaker wrist from an injury. not in some wonky half assed way

  • @pirateburke86 The point is that your not going to get the exact stance you want in a real fire fight, you might lean left or right, might be so close the enemy is breathing on you, you don't always get to use your favorite technique when firing your weapon, and you wont always have the same supprt in every position you fire from.

  • @oOChaosWolfOo and yet no one would hold a gun like that. i'm not saying that you will get to stand in the perfect stance every time you shoot a gun in combat or that you'll ever get that chance. any smart trained person would not hold a gun like he's holding an egg. if you are holding a gun with this loose of a grip chances are you don't know what you're doing or you have lost so much blood that it doesn't matter cuz you're dead already

  • @pirateburke86 That first thing you said was so stupid i'm going to ignore it, killing more insurgents always matters.

    As for the former, that isn't in the least bit true. You may be operating the weapon one handed, or firing around a corner, or both. The danger of exposing yourself to an already alert enemy is of high risk. Say there's an enemy around a corner with his sights trained on your position, add to it and say your hand is caught or your wrist is broken.

  • @pirateburke86 With that scenario i mentioned, you are unable to have a firm comfortable grip on the weapon, and you need to engage the enemy so he doesn't kill you. What's the option? Lie down and cry to your mommy about how your probably dead anyway, just because your hand is caught or broken? Or aim that bitch around the corner the only way you can; one handed and at an odd angle. At that point, your going to wish your weapon would cycle without being pampered just right, so you could unload.

  • @oOChaosWolfOo if you're "holding" the gun like this you're most likely not gonna be able to lift it due to the amount of blood lose. i'm all for fighting to the death, but there is a point where your mind will want to continue due to will power and it just wont be able to cuz the body can't.

  • @pirateburke86 You don't understand what speed the body loses blood. Just because you are bleeding to death, does not mean that you have already bleed out to the point that you are unable to lift a 2 or 3 pound handgun designed to be capable of firing with one hand. There are many documented cases of soldiers, sailors and Marines firing their weapon after they bled out, the most well-known and prominent being Petty Officer Axelson shooting at Taliban fighters after being shot in the head.

  • @oOChaosWolfOo you're right, as an EMT and Gunners Mate if nether the understanding of how the blood moves threw the body or how to shoot a gun properly. it's pretty impossible to fire a weapon when you've bled out. when you bleed out, you're dead. there is a difference between being shot and blood lose so massive that you may still be alive but your body just can't do anything no matter how bad you want it to. this is not a movie, it's real life

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  • @oOChaosWolfOo so you policy on guns is it must shoot limp wristed in the case that your about to be bled out and die and you shooting your gun doesnt make too much difference. you watched reservoir dogs too much

  • @joeratti Never seen it.

    So are you as weak as your policy on guns?

  • I would guess that polymer framed pistols would be at a disadvantage in this test. The frame itself would provide less inertia, being so light, and hence would rotate more relative to the slide and prevent the gun from cycling. More momentum in slide = better cycling. Whether or not this also applies limp wristing in actual shooting I'm not sure, but it's worth noting.

  • in short...don't limp wrist any gun.

  • I let a friend shoot my Glock the other day and he kept getting FTE. It was his first time to shoot a glock and he said it was a piece of shit. I told him to get a better grip and it would work just fine, which it did. Mine is a 23 and is not ported.

  • Until I bought and fired a Glock, I have never been accused of limp-wristing a pistol! I asked some Glock fan about the Glock failing to feed and stovepiping, and the guy told me you HAVE to hold them really tight. I think this proves it.

  • I have Glocks, Sigs, Colts and a Browning. Only the Sigs have never had any kind of failure for me, they are both Older All German made guns though.I use to own a mosquito, but its an inaccurate Piece of crap that will only eat CCI mini mags with any kind of semi-reliability. The only Firearm I ever purchased with regret.

  • @thewonderfrog Colt and Browning is really broad. Which ones in particular?

  • very nice glock they fucking uck

  • Funny how much people will spend on the AWSOME glock 17C haha.

    I love my 4" xd 45 works just fine no issues, great stopping power.

  • You should really do one with common pocket pistols: Glock 26, PP and PPk/s, Sig P230, Makarov and such. Blowback designs especially, are known for trouble with limp wristing, so it'd be interesting to see.

  • @John234pwns They wouldn't be notorious if anything. Blowback pistols run mainly on gas pressure, that brass wanting to come out of the chamber, shoving at the slide and pushing it back. In a locked breech gun that force just pushes against a locked surface and does nothing.

  • If someone ever shot at me, I would want them to use a Glock 17 while having very bad aim and a very limp wrist.

  • that Springfield XD looks good with your clothes

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  • seems that the glock springs are a little to strong to allow a full cycle. My wife was shooting the G19 and 23 and they both jammed on here once because she was a little to weak...

  • 1911, a revolverless revolver. The one you started the video with was a nice one BTW!

  • Unless your shooting at tanks like in Saving Private Ryan, i'd go with the glock.

  • Have you ever tested a Kimber Ultra CDP 2, or any kimber is a 3 inch barrel?

  • first remove magazine then unload ;)

  • Horrible Horrible Horrible!!!!

    I haven't a single weapon that hasn't been cleaned at least once this month... we're talking more than you have digits.

  • I love these tests you do. It did help on my decision to go with a Kimber custom II.

  • Ported Glock, may be an unfair comparison?

  • @kCharng

    Watch my other videos, I have another test with a non-C model.

  • @Sturmgewehre

    Will do :)

  • Noo the 226 didn't lock backkk D:

  • What the fuck are you doing, shooting a fucking gun like that? God damn.

  • @Kuewt its a limp wrist TEST. Read the title!

  • @Kuewt

    Read the thread title, idiot.

  • you are a bad person and should feel bad for not cleaning that colt :(

  • I've fired well over 5000 rounds in my Glock 23 and had MAYBE 5 fail to eject or feed and the slide not lock on an empty mag very few (3-4) times. The ftf may have been due to a full mag instead of loading it down one. My XD9 does the same with a full mag. This is using the cheap Wal Mart target loads from Winchester WB, UMC, Federal and Blazer Brass. It runs on anything. I've cleaned it about 6-8 times over the years(got it about 1995), including slide disassembly one time earlier this year.

  • Yea this would happen regularly on my 4th Gen G19 when my sister shot it. Interesting to see that it happens with others as well.

    That's one of the reasons I just bought an M&P9.

  • this has nothing to do with the nature of this video...but between this n your other limp wrist test vid it appear you n your friends have a very nice and sizable pistol collection :)

  • was the ammo for the same calibers all the same?

  • If you shoot limp wristed outside of "testing," I suggest you stick with a .22 and a big purse.

  • Could the definite reduced velocity of the compensated barrel be an added issue with the Glock? Seems it was the only compensated gun of the bunch.

  • @Nakanokalronin I agree although I am not a glock fan I believe the ported barrel with the limp wrist shooting could be the cause of the failure to ejects.

  • I wonder why the XD fed everything but didn't lock back but the XDM wouldn't even feed?

  • like you said.. dont get any more limp then that.. interesting video

  • Glad to see two of my favorite guns fare well in these tests(1911 and 226), but my other favorite shooting gun didn't do so well(G17).

    Ah well, it's still fun as hell to bring out for a day on the range, good thing I keep the Sig nearby at home.

  • I am a huge proponent of the 1911. It is probably the most lethally fast and accurate sidearm, and its controls are just plain right. However, watching this scared the shit out of me.

  • @910burns noob question but what about the 1911 scared the shit out of you? Or was it the fact that this proved limp wristing? i just found out about this and it freaked me that it happens, guess im buying a wheel gun lol

  • @cheesepufff The 1911 doesn't scare me. In fact its the only pistol I will own. I was referring to the test its self. I was imagining the unsupported pistol firing again while flipping up and killing the tester.

  • So what causes the Glock to have this issue? The XD seemed fine and its also a polymer framed 9mm. Could the grip angle have anything to do with it?

  • @CoreitoTheGreat Has to be a shitt extractor, like you said the XD is very similar in many respects except this one.

  • My glock 23 is also very sensitive to limp wristing. I think i will replace it with a sig soon.

  • This is really a great video, I haven't seen any other gun test like this on youtube. I just got a Beretta 92FS and experienced the exact same jam 3 times in 400 rounds as you did, not sure if I limp wristed it, but will try to hold it firmer to see if I get any more james, otherwise they could be caused by something else.

    Really amazed to see the glock jaming as well, I had no idea they were prone to jamming from a weak hold.

  • I'd say FTF/FTE when limpwristing are a good feature to have in a gun. Any gun will FTF/FTE, limpwristing compounds the likelihood it will happen. A gun that is sensitive to limpwristing is good to train with, since it will teach you how to shoot properly, as opposed to leaving training scars that are hard to get rid of.

  • There, you just prove Glock the AK47 of handguns certainly one of the most reliable gun ever built is really a piece of junk wow!

  • One can be injured in the course of an armed confrontation and lose muscle control. I don't want a gun that malfunctions, period. Glocks are not a gun I'd bet my life on. The safety is pathetic and the magazines difficult to load. If you have full control of the gun, Glocks are fine, if you are dedicated to gun safety. I'd take my S&W 5906 any day.

  • @MuzzleBlast357 It's one disadvantage of the Glock. The safety is fine. The magazine are difficult to load? Not in my experince. I bet a lot of PD traded in their S&W 5906's for Glocks.

  • @esh325 true. then guys like me bought them for cheap and love to shoot them. cheap, accurate, and reliable as hell

  • @esh325 The safety is fine? There is no safety on the models i've seen

  • @oOChaosWolfOo If you mean a safety like the one you can flip off with your thumb, then no, the Glock doesn't have that. The Glock does have 3 passive safeties that disengage when you pull the trigger. They are the trigger safety,drop safety, and firing pin block.

  • Just commented to a glock owner that I see a lot of excuses about why the glock fails, and no glock owners saying there might be a problem with the design, in my opinion if you can get a gun to fail just from technique than there is a problem with that gun, that's like saying if you don't push the gas pedal a certain way in my car that the engine will die

  • lmfao people talk as tho glocks are all high and mighty

    jk they arent bad

  • I love my Beretta M92FS. It's the only gun I ever loved so much, that I went and bought another one. After I bought my first Beretta M92 approximately 10 years ago, I quickly came to realize why the US military adopted it as the standard issue sidearm!! It is just that good!

  • its because of the locked breech....just to let you all know.....that is why, i dont know if anybody has commented on that, but if you notice all the ones that dont lock up appear to not have locked breech...except the springfield...which is odd.

  • I'm split between a Remington 1911 R1, 92FS, and FNP45. They all have their points. Tests like these remind me of why I don't love polymer 100% though.

  • Hmm...Mabey somebody can set me stright.

    What is a good 9mm pistole,accurate,durable,High magazine capacity, and

    515$ and under?

    Please reply! ( 9mm ONLY) and ( keep Friendly )

  • @reptilesgamers Check out best9mm(dot)com

  • GOD BLESS JOHN MOSES BROWNING!!!!

  • Yeh, I'm a huge Beretta fan but even I would admit that the factory mags are pieces of shit and miss-feed under extreme conditions. But if you by Mecgar 18rd mags the Beretta becomes the worlds most reliable 9mm handgun, it will NEVER fail under any condition.

  • @KJRUSS0 I meant to say "buy" btw.

  • It seems C model Glocks tend to be more sensitive when limp wristed. I tried your same test with my 19C and a friends standard. My 19c only had had a few hiccups. The standard none. I thinking its probably something with maybe less blow back on the compensated? Slower slide action? cause i know C models lowers the velocity on the round lil bit.

  • Enjoy your exploding gun, glock retards.

  • Don't be a limp wristed faggot and you won't have that problem.

  • Do a google groups search of rec.guns July 6, 2003.

    I have written on the math of the limp wristing myth.

    What we see in the video is that the loose grip is more important than the wrist compliance.

  • Biased much? what ammo did you use? can you confirm your grip was identical to the others? nope. because you used your hand and not a machine. You have failed the scientific method. Your data is null and void.

  • i prefer to have a knife in a gun battle than a glock sig beretta hk XD 1911 best of the best

  • Try that test with a non-compensated Glock and with full-power JHP ammo instead of shitty range ammo. You will find, as I did, that your Glock will run 100%.

  • @opensourcelinuxm

    Do you see that you prove his point when your response is "use a different gun and you won't have the problem"?

  • @opensourcelinuxm But a good gun fires under any condition, that's the point of the video. If you are a solider stranded behind enemy lines, using captured enemy ammo, then you want a gun that you can rely on. (And yes I know that my example is unlikely to happen, but it does happen).

  • my johnson fails to feed when i limp wrist it

  • hi man i liked the video, can you do a Limp Wrist Test for a 410 shotgun? i was thinking of buying one but i have wrist pain from a injury so i wanna see how it shoots Limp Wristed?

  • The Glocks are polymer framed,so i'm not surprized to see that it doesn't have enoughs strength or weight to keep the gun steady.Those all metal guns with good metal and weigh more seem to do better.

  • For the people who don't know "limp wristing" is where you have a weak grip on the hand gun and you get a ftf or failure to feed, the reason is because the full recoil of the gun is what extracts the spent casing and re-chambers the next round. By limp wristing, you're not giving the blowback its full energy so the slide doesn't full come back which may cause jams which is what this video is trying to show. If you don't limp wrist , you have a better chance of proper ammo feeding from the mag..

  • These videos were done because of so many reports of Glocks failing to feed due to "limp wristing". Google it, learn something, then perhaps these videos will make sense. No one is proposing you hold a pistol like this, thinking that's what this video is about is what's "stupid".

  • Lol if you have to explain to someone what Limp wrist TEST means....they just dont need to watch the video bro....

  • @Sturmgewehre So, I make a comment that holding a gun unsafely would be stupid and someone who doesnt know me or my level experience insults me. I suppose I should take that as par for the youtube course... Holding the gun loosely (in my opinion unsafe) is what causes the mass of it's frame to matter when cycling. That -is- the central

  • @Sturmgewehre And what happens in a gun fight when you're injured and can't hold a gun "properly"?? When you have to shoot back with a weak arm or hand due to being shot? You're right a defensive arm needs to function. It just needs to. The idiots who are dunning you have not "thought it through".

  • @SmokeRingsPipeDreams Well if you need a handgun that is nearly guaranteed to function regardless of how it's held, you need a revolver.

  • @chrismc410 Revolvers aren't garranteed to function either. I bought a smith and wesson new, shot about twelve times and it stopped working. (the shoe broke) Modern semi autos can function flawlessley. Espeically sig pistols.

  • @SmokeRingsPipeDreams I did say usually guaranteed fire. A revolver failing to function to the point it can't fire save firing pin breakage is very few and far between. I've only seen a revolver fail to the point it can't fire once. The cylinder seized up. True, anything mechanical and man made can and will fail. Some fewer than others.

  • @chrismc410 I know what you mean and basicly agree. I guess I prefer automatics because of the ablitiy to quickly and easily change out a mag. (under fire)  But either can be the right choice depending on the situation. The important thing is to have a piece when you need one I guess, no matter what it is.

  • @chrismc410 revolvers can get sand or grit in the revolving mechanisms and thats about the only way to jam them up. if a cartridge is lose enough in teh cylinder to move to the rear if the revolver is at an upward angle, that could also stop the cylinder from rotating.