do i need to list the scholars who have posited that his works are anti semetic and are just a rehash of the protocols?
how about one who he loves to cite, benny morris, who once said of finkelstein, "to him, the only good israeli, is the evil israeli"
now i dont know, maybe the bigger jewish kids used to beat this idiot up as a child...but he hates jews...he misrepresents others research, has done none of his own, has never been published in a peer reviewed journal, and is a fraud
Yes please cite Benny Morris because the quote you selected exposes you and your agenda. Benny Morris is talking about Israeli's not jews but you seem to think they are one and the same. What does that say about you and your agenda?
And no I'll pass on the threat of quoting the canards of scholars. I would rather you make the case and not defer to others. I believe you cannot make this case just as they cannot.
You said yourself that there are arab citizens in Israel did you not? Do you believe all jews are in Israel? Do you believe Israel represents all jews? Who is being obtuse?
That really is not a simple question at all. It is actually a very loaded one. Hezbollah is based in Lebanon. It is often argued that Hezbollah is funded by Iran. This is something that I cannot answer and am not an expert on.
Why are you saying such things to God? What does he have to do with your hatred?
Interesting that you quote the Lebanese born leader of Hezbollah and then say Hezbollah does not come from there.
You should study fallacies. Your comparison of quotes is a great example of the fallacy of division. Dr. Finkelstein is hardly responsible for every position Hezbollah takes. Not to mention this is a disputed quote as you are probably aware.
What Finkelstein was (obviously) saying is that anyone who has looked at the facts and is intellectually honest about what is happening must side with Hezbollah over Israel if they believe in freedom and dignity. Israel attacks without provocation and targets civilians in every operation since 1948. Hezbollah was established to defend Lebanese civilians from Israeli attacks.
finkelstein has never been intellectually honest about anything
without provocation?: would you consider sniping and bombing "provocation" acts carried out by arabs during 1948
you, like finkelstein, choose to note only those facts that support your side
hezbollah was created to do the bidding of their iranian masters...the plo destroyed what was once a beautiful country...hezbollah is finishing the job
3)Perhaps you dislike comparative analysis. This could be expressed in your unwillingness to compare domestic violence and divorce rates of this country with others.
Your pictures are not backed with rationality and logic. They are just pictures of bad events with nothing significant in value to be learned unless one was stupid.
However, let's not assume people are stupid. These ad hominems are usually an expression of one's own insecurity :)
Moreover, another unstated assumtion by you is that all of the American institutions do not cater to an American identity or do not influence the shaping of one :) I don't think so. Study the Progressive Movement in this country.
2)None of the critiques you made had anything to do with the gentlemen's comparative analysis. Stick with the argument , not demagoguery of emotionally loaded images that are saturated with cultural racism.
1) The U.S. has never been invaded like it has other countries. Therefore , your unstated assumption which is a product of taking the situation in which you examine out of its context or environment is that if this country was invaded by another, the people would never employ or propagandize its children. That's why the mention of God was placed in the Pledge of Allegiance by President Esienhower and is taught to our children?
Well the US has been invaded exactly as it invades other countries and they used some wicked-cool tactics like killing Pregnant Mothers, Children, and killing and scalping foetuses. Go Red Skins!
I don't think whoever Mixed that thing Deconstructed a good historian..The facts related (about jews being expelled from arab countries,for example) are simply irrelevant!!..Beside,if u wanna deconstruct some1 the least u could do is do it face to face,not cowerdly behind a mic...Stupid try!!!
Ok mr,i dont know where u got this information from...But what i could assure u is,whereveer u go in arab countries,u have the temple guarded& u never see any one mistreated!!!!Where do the numbers come from?Jews have aalways been integreted in the arab countries....
I don't think whoever Mixed that thing Deconstructed a good historian..The facts related (about jews being expelled from arab countries,for example) are simply irrelevant!!..Beside,if u wanna deconstruct some1 the least u could do is do it face to face,not cowerdly behind a mic...Stupid try!!!
It's a shame a great tune like Norman Greenbaum's Spirit in the Sky is being used in this spirit, a spirit of support of murder and brutality on a scale that could never be matched by Palestinians. I certainly hope the narrator of these pieces is simply misinformed, or ignorant, for if not, if he knows the truth, and propogandizes in sefense of the Israeli occupation, then he truly is dangerous. The truth is on our side!
How can someone comment on such outright hatred and racism? The narrator of this bit is a dangerous person. I pray that all serious people will look into this matter. Finkelstein's point is that native american opposition to genocide(why we are all her in our US homes)was not motivated by a silly notion like "anti-europeonism", but rather fear of territorial displacement. Palestinian opposition to their occupation is not motivated by "anti semitism", but rather this fear of displacement.
I'm a lifelong Republican and I support Hamas 100%. Hamas is merely acting defensively against the brutal Israeli occupiers of Palestine. Israel has no right to exist; they ripped the land off from the indiginous Arabs who lived there for 2,000 years.
These videos are hate-crimes produced by a Hasbara xeonphobe. How warped has the Zionist position become that you use blatant forms of propaganda and personal smear campaigns, defaming effective educators like Dr. Finkelstein?!
As long as Hasbaras spread ignorance about Islamic sharia, Palestinian "terrorism," dhimmitude, etc., there will be no redemption. The day will finally come when the hypocrites will no longer be able to spread their lies because the truth will be clear to all.
I am wondering if you read the comments about your "video" and what you take from them? I'm not sure if one more voice pointing out their utter lack of rigor will in any way alter your craft, but I'll give it a shot. Your video offers precisely zero to issues the Norman Finkelstein discusses.
WHAT!? He clearly uses the word ANALOGY. This is sheer nonsense. I thought the merit of your first two postings were questionable enough, but this takes the biscuit.
more comedy... he never lets us down. he brings up irrelevant facts and then screams that his facts are correct. hillels is inadvertantly deconstructing his own intellectual credibility. more substanceless zionist cheerleading.
Finkelstein makes a comparison btw Pals and Native Indians to show that the cause of their aggressions against the Europeans was the thought that the creation of US and creation of Israel would come at their expense. This is the point that you have to try to argue against.
I think he actually said that the xenophobic fear of territorial loss invoked early hostility among Arabs against the Jewish immigrants that moved to the British mandate area.
I think there are actually numerous examples of this, newly arrived Jewish immigrants would for example buy a piece of land and lay off the Arab farm workers and build some kind of enterprise which required more skilled laborers so they would usually hire other Jewish immigrants.
This caused hatred among many Arabs against the new Jewish immigrants resulting in numerous atrocities and acts of violence directed against them.
A feature of Imperialism is refusal to recognize indigenous title and ignoring existing land divisions ... a policy that was carried out against Native Americans as well as Palestinians. Internationalism is a fig leaf for Imperialism.
Again we see a 'deconstruction' which makes no factual points. What has Hamas [created in 1987], got to do on the question of whether the Palestinian's were ethnically cleansed [as were Native Americans] in 1948??
Post some facts/sources etc that disprove this comparison as the only evidence you have put forward is by saying it isn't so
Why is it that Jews can not seem to understand the difference between Hamas and Palestinians?
FistInTheAir420 3 years ago
i dont know....
think it has something to do with the arabs voting the hamas as their leaders??
brabon1 3 years ago
Because for 2000 years (at least), Jews are prone to fantasize their enemies into friends (a deluded survival mechanism).
hillels 3 years ago
Please keep posting these videos. It helps Dr. Finkelstein more than you know.
robnaro 3 years ago
helps him?
you are funny
finkeldick is a self hating jew bastard
brabon1 3 years ago
Does he hate Chomsky? Isn't Chomsky a jew? How do you know he hates his jewish identity? Because he doesn't justify Israeli apartheid?
robnaro 3 years ago
you use chomsky as a proof that finkelstein loves jews? that is a good one
wont even comment on your idiotic apartheid statement
but show me an apartheid state that has an arab sitting on its supreme court
finkelstein has fans among the ignorant and weak minded...oh, and with the nazi and terrorist world
brabon1 3 years ago
I would be happy to show you Israel. Name calling is the best you can do.
Are you going to give your evidence of Dr. Finkelstein's jewish hatred or can't you come up with anything?
robnaro 3 years ago
do i need to list the scholars who have posited that his works are anti semetic and are just a rehash of the protocols?
how about one who he loves to cite, benny morris, who once said of finkelstein, "to him, the only good israeli, is the evil israeli"
now i dont know, maybe the bigger jewish kids used to beat this idiot up as a child...but he hates jews...he misrepresents others research, has done none of his own, has never been published in a peer reviewed journal, and is a fraud
brabon1 3 years ago
Yes please cite Benny Morris because the quote you selected exposes you and your agenda. Benny Morris is talking about Israeli's not jews but you seem to think they are one and the same. What does that say about you and your agenda?
And no I'll pass on the threat of quoting the canards of scholars. I would rather you make the case and not defer to others. I believe you cannot make this case just as they cannot.
robnaro 3 years ago
ok...now you are just being obtuse
if israel is an apartheid state, which israelis arent jews?
could it be...the druze?
ya...thats it...finkelstein hates the druze
there really is no point in my bringing other proofs...you will find disagreement with those too
brabon1 3 years ago
You said yourself that there are arab citizens in Israel did you not? Do you believe all jews are in Israel? Do you believe Israel represents all jews? Who is being obtuse?
robnaro 3 years ago
can i ask you a simple question?
is hizbollah a lebanese movement?
brabon1 3 years ago
That really is not a simple question at all. It is actually a very loaded one. Hezbollah is based in Lebanon. It is often argued that Hezbollah is funded by Iran. This is something that I cannot answer and am not an expert on.
robnaro 3 years ago
loaded?
where do most members of hizbolah come from?
ill give you a hint...it aint lebanon
"If they [Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, Hizbullah commander
I say this without fear: for those who believe in freedom and dignity, we are all Hizbullah now." Norman Finkelstein
the words of a lover of jews
god, you are stupid...just embrace your jew hate...nasser did...he died a fat, perverted hero
brabon1 3 years ago
Why are you saying such things to God? What does he have to do with your hatred?
Interesting that you quote the Lebanese born leader of Hezbollah and then say Hezbollah does not come from there.
You should study fallacies. Your comparison of quotes is a great example of the fallacy of division. Dr. Finkelstein is hardly responsible for every position Hezbollah takes. Not to mention this is a disputed quote as you are probably aware.
robnaro 3 years ago
What Finkelstein was (obviously) saying is that anyone who has looked at the facts and is intellectually honest about what is happening must side with Hezbollah over Israel if they believe in freedom and dignity. Israel attacks without provocation and targets civilians in every operation since 1948. Hezbollah was established to defend Lebanese civilians from Israeli attacks.
FistInTheAir420 3 years ago
finkelstein has never been intellectually honest about anything
without provocation?: would you consider sniping and bombing "provocation" acts carried out by arabs during 1948
you, like finkelstein, choose to note only those facts that support your side
hezbollah was created to do the bidding of their iranian masters...the plo destroyed what was once a beautiful country...hezbollah is finishing the job
brabon1 3 years ago
Think most nazis are probably bigger fans of the Israeli government. They are the logical progression of nazi ideology.
FistInTheAir420 3 years ago
funny, the exact opposite is true
dont believe me?
go and visit stormfront
brabon1 3 years ago
3)Perhaps you dislike comparative analysis. This could be expressed in your unwillingness to compare domestic violence and divorce rates of this country with others.
Your pictures are not backed with rationality and logic. They are just pictures of bad events with nothing significant in value to be learned unless one was stupid.
However, let's not assume people are stupid. These ad hominems are usually an expression of one's own insecurity :)
taiyod 3 years ago
Moreover, another unstated assumtion by you is that all of the American institutions do not cater to an American identity or do not influence the shaping of one :) I don't think so. Study the Progressive Movement in this country.
2)None of the critiques you made had anything to do with the gentlemen's comparative analysis. Stick with the argument , not demagoguery of emotionally loaded images that are saturated with cultural racism.
taiyod 3 years ago 2
OOOOOOpppppps.
1) The U.S. has never been invaded like it has other countries. Therefore , your unstated assumption which is a product of taking the situation in which you examine out of its context or environment is that if this country was invaded by another, the people would never employ or propagandize its children. That's why the mention of God was placed in the Pledge of Allegiance by President Esienhower and is taught to our children?
taiyod 3 years ago
Well the US has been invaded exactly as it invades other countries and they used some wicked-cool tactics like killing Pregnant Mothers, Children, and killing and scalping foetuses. Go Red Skins!
calorus 3 years ago
I don't think whoever Mixed that thing Deconstructed a good historian..The facts related (about jews being expelled from arab countries,for example) are simply irrelevant!!..Beside,if u wanna deconstruct some1 the least u could do is do it face to face,not cowerdly behind a mic...Stupid try!!!
bluezman607 3 years ago
I can understand why you want to make "irrelevant" the expulsion of 800,000 Jews - It doesn't make the Arabs look particularly good, does it?
hillels 3 years ago
Ok mr,i dont know where u got this information from...But what i could assure u is,whereveer u go in arab countries,u have the temple guarded& u never see any one mistreated!!!!Where do the numbers come from?Jews have aalways been integreted in the arab countries....
bluezman607 3 years ago
I don't think whoever Mixed that thing Deconstructed a good historian..The facts related (about jews being expelled from arab countries,for example) are simply irrelevant!!..Beside,if u wanna deconstruct some1 the least u could do is do it face to face,not cowerdly behind a mic...Stupid try!!!
bluezman607 3 years ago
It's a shame a great tune like Norman Greenbaum's Spirit in the Sky is being used in this spirit, a spirit of support of murder and brutality on a scale that could never be matched by Palestinians. I certainly hope the narrator of these pieces is simply misinformed, or ignorant, for if not, if he knows the truth, and propogandizes in sefense of the Israeli occupation, then he truly is dangerous. The truth is on our side!
nilesmoney 3 years ago
How can someone comment on such outright hatred and racism? The narrator of this bit is a dangerous person. I pray that all serious people will look into this matter. Finkelstein's point is that native american opposition to genocide(why we are all her in our US homes)was not motivated by a silly notion like "anti-europeonism", but rather fear of territorial displacement. Palestinian opposition to their occupation is not motivated by "anti semitism", but rather this fear of displacement.
nilesmoney 3 years ago
I'm a lifelong Republican and I support Hamas 100%. Hamas is merely acting defensively against the brutal Israeli occupiers of Palestine. Israel has no right to exist; they ripped the land off from the indiginous Arabs who lived there for 2,000 years.
jimj122680 4 years ago
Why can't apologists for the israeli govt and their american supporters ever put forth an honest argument?
hipsxnxheartx 4 years ago 4
What would an honest defense of Israel look like? God is in the real estate business? The Torah is a title deed? This video tells it all.
rathcelt 4 years ago
The probleme IS: there IS no defense of Israel,for Israel,or about Israel...Enough already!!!
bluezman607 3 years ago
This guy went from stupid to ridiculous fucking racist.
pobasted 4 years ago
These videos are hate-crimes produced by a Hasbara xeonphobe. How warped has the Zionist position become that you use blatant forms of propaganda and personal smear campaigns, defaming effective educators like Dr. Finkelstein?!
As long as Hasbaras spread ignorance about Islamic sharia, Palestinian "terrorism," dhimmitude, etc., there will be no redemption. The day will finally come when the hypocrites will no longer be able to spread their lies because the truth will be clear to all.
7271961 4 years ago
Despite the cutting tricks:
Finkelstein for President!
9valkyrie 4 years ago 3
what a waste of ten minutes , and as for your own comment to DoJaenin ..... please..
myke3332001 4 years ago
I am wondering if you read the comments about your "video" and what you take from them? I'm not sure if one more voice pointing out their utter lack of rigor will in any way alter your craft, but I'll give it a shot. Your video offers precisely zero to issues the Norman Finkelstein discusses.
greggalen 4 years ago
WHAT!? He clearly uses the word ANALOGY. This is sheer nonsense. I thought the merit of your first two postings were questionable enough, but this takes the biscuit.
HugoNewman 4 years ago
more comedy... he never lets us down. he brings up irrelevant facts and then screams that his facts are correct. hillels is inadvertantly deconstructing his own intellectual credibility. more substanceless zionist cheerleading.
wfenio 4 years ago
Finkelstein makes a comparison btw Pals and Native Indians to show that the cause of their aggressions against the Europeans was the thought that the creation of US and creation of Israel would come at their expense. This is the point that you have to try to argue against.
Gavinova 4 years ago
I highly doubt that was his actual argument.
I think he actually said that the xenophobic fear of territorial loss invoked early hostility among Arabs against the Jewish immigrants that moved to the British mandate area.
Batavian187 4 years ago
I think there are actually numerous examples of this, newly arrived Jewish immigrants would for example buy a piece of land and lay off the Arab farm workers and build some kind of enterprise which required more skilled laborers so they would usually hire other Jewish immigrants.
This caused hatred among many Arabs against the new Jewish immigrants resulting in numerous atrocities and acts of violence directed against them.
Batavian187 4 years ago
Can you footnote where you gleaned your info Batavian?, for I've never heard of such a thing. I would like to research your source. Thanks
nilesmoney 3 years ago
I was looking forward to an intelligent critique, but you have offered nothing but fluff. Please make SOME kind of effort.
ludwigau 4 years ago
A feature of Imperialism is refusal to recognize indigenous title and ignoring existing land divisions ... a policy that was carried out against Native Americans as well as Palestinians. Internationalism is a fig leaf for Imperialism.
4449911 4 years ago
Again we see a 'deconstruction' which makes no factual points. What has Hamas [created in 1987], got to do on the question of whether the Palestinian's were ethnically cleansed [as were Native Americans] in 1948??
Post some facts/sources etc that disprove this comparison as the only evidence you have put forward is by saying it isn't so
mrmc24 4 years ago
The first two videos were hilarious enough, this one seals the case. You've proven the old addage once again:
If you can't answer on the facts and if you can't answer on the principles, you better throw mud and scream rhetoric.
nellenmellen 4 years ago
Kind of like the asshole and the brain.
hillels 4 years ago
a·nal·o·gy
--noun, plural -gies.
1. a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.
-> think again
DoJaenin 4 years ago