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  • no similarities

  • Its called Pachelbel's Canon, and its in far FAR more songs than just these two. Its not plagiarized at all. There is a comedian out there that goes through an entire list of songs that have this same progression on it.

  • ..... Ithe Byrds melody occurs in what's known as the bridge, in this case a very brief middle section connecting the similar (and main) parts, occurring twice .... The claim is not insane, IMO, and it's fun to see someone make connections like this. But in this particular case, a claim of plagiarism simply wouldn't prevail in any legal setting.

  • .... the Byrds melody occurs in what's known as the bridge, in this case a very brief middle section connecting the similar (and main) parts, occurring twice .... The claim is not insane, IMO, and it's fun to see someone make connections like this. But in this particular case, a claim of plagiarism simply wouldn't prevail in any legal setting.

  • The main issue isn't the 'sound' of the songs, which to me is very different. The main issue is analysis of the melody, which is protected by copyright. The 2 melodies are slightly similar, but not enough to constitute plagiarism. (1) legally, there has to be a greater quantity of theft than done here, and (2) that is not the main melody of the Byrds song. Ithe Byrds melody occurs in what's known as the bridge, in this case a very brief middle section connecting the similar (and main) parts, oc

  • Are you deaf??

    Siriously. they sound NOTHING like eachother.

  • There is a similarity as far as the vocals go but I think this is a coincidence. Honestly, I think the song is more a rip off of "Yesterday" by the Beatles. The whole beat of the song and guitar parts are extremely similar and the Plain White T's have credit the Beatles as one of their inspirations from what I read on the web. But who really cares? Both good acoustic songs, at least it's not death metal shit.

  • wow, no one had noticed this? cause this is absurd LOL

    what kind of drug you use?

  • The difference is that Plain White T's suck and the Byrds rule.

  • yes

    

  • That's a very broad view of plagiarism..

  • woow! youre right! if you hear it very closely seems like they are alike..! its so sad! beaouse i really love plain white t´s! i hope they havent done it on purpose..! i feel better thinking that was just a concidence! i hope it]! o good i love plain white t´s! they are making a new record! please buy it!

  • That's not even a close match. The 2 Sogs sound completely different.

  • The mellodies sound similar but I wouldn't say PLAGIARIZED. Plaigerism is like... Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused. (Jake Holmes). Besides, the Byrds are a very influential band, sparking the creativity in artists such as Bob Dylan, Arlo Guthrie, Heart, and Robert Plant (solo carer)

  • yeah, noooooot really

  • I dont see it

  • i dont think they sound the same at all, you must me tone deaf

  • i actually do think they ripped em off (The melody), since that's what everyone's doing these days.

  • shows no band has fucking talent to write there own... green day plagirizes so much shit

  • ha ha yeah exactly. and the jonas brothers rip off some much stuff from GOOD artists now.

  • Dude no they don't. If they ripped off stuff from good bands, their music would be better

  • no fucking way

  • not rly

  • dude they are fucken differnt as...there are slight slight similarities but nothing that sounds ripped off

  • i really dont think the plain white ts stole the melody

    i just think the vocals sound the same

    and that is completly normal

  • its not the guitar thats similar, its the vocals dumbasses

  • these aren't really similar

  • These 2 songs don't even really sound the same. Unless you are acoustically challenged.

  • Allright theres no god damn coincidence here at all, idk wtf you guys are talking about...

  • It's not plagarsim.

    It's a natural rhythym to buliding a line.

    Start off soft, crescendo, get soft again at the end of the line. It's normal, everyone does it.

  • these songs aren't the same at all.

  • well the byrds ripped off bob dylan about a thousand times over so I say they deserve to be ripped off. oh and these two songs sound nothing alike.

  • its the vocal track but no its not plagurism

    same gaps inbetween lines but thats normal

    nothing wrong with it

  • ok, these two songs sound vaguely similar, but i don't think plain white t's stole from them. but i remember when the song first came out and was starting to get big, me and my guitar teacher both recall hearing that song years earlier and we where surprised it was getting recognized now. and then i saw that it was part of a new album so....i think they did take this song from somebody, but i don't think it was from the byrds

  • No Coincidink Dumbass!

  • No. Just no.

    You're a idiot.

    Don't make anymore videos.

  • aparently you dont have a good ear if you cant hear it.

    so YOUR the idiot.

    anyways...

    I think this was a coincidence. PWT prolly never eaven head of this band.

  • No you're the idiot. These sound nothing like each other.

    Your and you're and two different words... you wouldn't know the difference, I guess

  • yes they do, I don't think the PWTS did it on purpose however, you subconcious automaticly does it.

  • ohhhhhh,

    tssssssssssssss

    id say good job,

    if you actually did a good job

    instead of just sucking

  • Hmmm, pretty close. The Byrds have so much other sounds in the mix that it's a little hard to tell. If they play the guitar riff without distortion, it'd be much easier to tell.

  • you suck, man!

  • Yea... I guess they do sound similar.

    But so does every other major scale arpeggio. If PWT's plagurized this song, they also plagurized the major scale arpeggio excercises we practice in class everday... Sure, a few inversions here and there, and PTW's repeat the top note of the triad.

    Ouch.. Plagurism.. OH wait, that's called music.

    Dumb ass.

  • fail

  • i thought hey delilah sounds too much like a simon and garfunkle song doesn't sound like this song though

  • haha wow they didn't sound close at all the rythem was more upbeat and not acoustic haha this is a complete and total FAILURE video hahaha nice try but wow.

  • ahah

    I didn't even like this band/song in the first place, so YAY another reason to dislike them:D

  • wtf?! do you even have ears?

  • they aren't even similar

    besides

    pop music all sounds brutally the same

    music composition has its limits, there are only so many chord progressions

    you'd be surprised at how many songs actually sound different but are essentially the same with different words

    this, however, isn't even near

  • Your right, look at Miley Cyrus xD

  • you are correct in what you say. until i actually played the guitar and learned what it took to make a song, i never realized this.

  • i dont htink so

  • .... don't see how you can call that the same melody... >.>

  • OMG Anything

  • i see the point.

    so you are trying tell a joke.

  • Yeah right, I doubt those little emo pussies have ever listened to the Byrds

  • i decide? Ok absolute rubbish!!!

  • definitely not

  • Sorry, not buying it...

    Now, Coldplay and Satriani, I can get behind that one.

  • only slightly simular

    it could have easily been coincidental

  • its not close enough to say its plagarized

  • true...but not done on purpose.

  • somewhat similar but not plagiarized.

  • ok i can see your point but im sure the plain white tee's didnt steal the melody they probably thought they made it up. basically what im saying is everything has been done b4 its pretty damn near impossible to write a song with chords that wont sound the same or similar to another song

  • are u stupid? if people start thinking that if there is a slim similarity in songs that they are automaticaly plagarized, that would mean that eventually every song will be plagarized, even if the person writing it had never heard the one before sounds a little crazy, doesn't it?

  • what?!?! these aren't even similar!?

  • i wouldnt say its the same just u kno cooncidence maybe

  • well if you speed up the delihlah song its sounds pretty similar.

  • NOT-EVEN-CLOSE...or remotely.

  • They don't really sound alike.

    What if they were just inspired by the song?

  • not even close...

  • there's something similar...but they are not quite identical

  • what

  • well, even if this were true, the byrds suck. they raped bob dylan.

  • Hes not talking about the melodies hes talking about the vocals, they sounds a lot alike. And none of you guys would like the plain white T's if you met the singer and seen what his real personalities like when hes not in front of a crowd or a camera.

  • nope, not alike at all

    but seriously, everyone gets way too offended over these stupid little things. you'd imagine that the artists beig accused are close personal friends or something. it's f**king stupid.

  • These songs sound nothing alike, though the Plain White T's do suck.

  • cock might5 i add. BIG cock

  • i dont hear similaritys sorry bout that

  • i don't think this sounds anything alike... so really? stop being stupid.

  • Look, all you jerks do is trying to find alike song to a band/singer you hate, and then you think you're gods...Well...F*CK YOU!

    >_>

  • coincidence.

    simply.

    bu yes it does sond quite alike.

  • Nope, don't see it either!

  • douche

  • I so don't hear the similarities! Plain White T's ROCK!

  • dudeee, you are crazy...i hear no resemblence at all. lordyyy

  • The only similarity would be the singing, if anything

  • I hear no resemblence whatsoever.

  • Yeah, sorry but I don't hear any similiarities either

  • no similarity.

  • what was the same ??

  • don't hear any similarity.....

  • JUST ONE OR TWO CHORDS

  • wtf

    they did not steal it

    geesh

  • i didnt hear a resemblence at all. sry.

  • SORRY NOTHING ALIKE

  • Being a musician myself, i believe that I can offer a guided opinion. To start things out, the first 3 notes of the two songs are the same and, yes, at the end of each measure they both end in a note rather similar... but that's about where the resemblance ends. *Everything* between has absolutely no resemblance. I'm inclined to say that you have absolutely no musical ear...

  • Because of your detailed criticism, I feel inclined to respond. First of all, I am using the word "plagiarized" lightly here exactly because the similarity is only slight. The reason I put this video up in the first place was that the similarity was bothering me for days.

    And regarding my musical ear, I highly suggest that you GFY.

  • Heh... you're not the person I'd take advice from ;). Good luck in life--you'll need it with that attitude.

  • I thought I would hear it because I am a musicial and have a good musical ear... but I don't hear it at all... sorry.

  • What's a "musicial"?

  • I meant musician... my bad.

  • @HaganeNoDan He's a movie :)

  • hard as i tried i couldnt really hear a resemblance, though they did both use instruments...and had a beat O_O

  • wtf, they are totally fucking different ! XD

  • wtf they are nothing alike 2 diffrent songs..

  • i strongly dislike the plain white T's song and them as a band,

    but they are not in any way connected.

  • alot of artist do that they still the inspraition fromm other artist and resemble it

    check my page oh and a good ear they do sound alike listen to the harmony people

  • umm they dont sound the same at all

  • Uh, I don't hear even the slightest resemblance.

  • I love the Byrds...and can't really stand the Plain White T's....but I don't see where Hey There Delilah ripped off anything from Natural Harmony.

  • I can see why you thought they stole the melody, but I think there's *very* little resemblance.

  • um... no. no resemblance

  • they sound nothing alike! u need to get ur hearing checked!

  • no, not at all, they dont sound the same at ALL

  • definately not

  • maybe they sampled the song

    who cares ?

    everyone does it.

  • yeah i guess they sound a tiny little bit similar but seriously u really think they stole it... hey there delila is faster and has different words (p.s plenty of popular songs use other songs in their songs its called sampling its not illegal if they have permission)

  • I cant see a resemblance... they dont sound ANYTHING alike. o_O

  • i kno!

  • Agreed totally!

  • thanks...

  • Not anywhere near the same

  • agreed.

  • yeah

    i tell it as it is!

    lol

  • i dont even hear the resemblance

  • Hm...slight resemblance but the didn't steal it.

  • wait did i miss where they are the same?

  • EXACTLY!  NO WHERE!

  • There is a SLIGHT resemblance, but to say that the Plain White T's flat out stole the melody is a stretch. It's not very similar and I don't think many people would side with you that they ripped The Byrds off.

  • same here there close but not the same

  • thats BS they don't sound alike

  • r u tone deaf, sir?

  • dude i dont here anything that even resembles a similarity

  • they do that all they time with bands like coldplay and someother band sound a lot like an old group U2 i think was the band

  • the sound nothing alike!! god are you stupid?

  • No, they sound nothing alike you must be like musically challenged or something

  • Wow, dude, you serious? They don't even sound alike. I mean, maybe a few notes, but not really. And you don't see PWT getting sued, do you?

  • really??? you think that they sound alike???? that's really really stupid.......

  • are you like stupid? this wasn't plaigarism.

    songs sound alike all the time. those two didnt even sound alike, they had like 3 notes in common.

  • they barely sound alike

  • I don't think these 2 songs sound the same ^^

  • Every band takes ideas from other bands...That's why there are so many bands that sound like each other...Granted this is more evident than usual but still

  • u r an idiot. theres an italian song thats way more similar, the rokes, 'pioggia' something

  • What the hell?!?

  • ok 1. It has some differences and 2. There are so many songs out there you think that they are suppose to listen to all of it and is no chance it just happened? come on dont be stupid

  • some say that the song hey dere delila was stolen from pxndx

  • who says they stole it? b-sides hey there delilah is better.

  • sooo!?!?! what if the plain white t's had NEVER heard that song when they wrote delilah!?!?! it doesn't mean they did it on purpose!!!

  • they sound very close u dumbasses

  • who cares het thir delilah is muuuuccchhhh!!!!!!! betta

  • haha no. that's funny. This is real music. This wasn't music that was forgotten in a few years, I can't say the same about the plain white ts

  • Hell yeah, brother!

  • completely different.

    you're an idiot.

  • um... I adore The Byrds music and I would totally stick up for their music despite the fact that I like the Plain White T's also but..man, it sound's nothing alike what so ever. ...not even a little tiny chord here and there.

  • call me crazy, but i hear to different things.

  • I'm calling a "Far-Fetched" on that one.

  • Okay, the plagorizm done by Avril Lavigne, yes, it is pretty blatant, but this is just too much of a stretch. The song is original and beautiful and people need to stop dissing on it for whatever the reason.

  • Yeh there's the slightest similarity but no where near enough to be construed as plagiarism.

  • o well, people plagiarize stuff all the time, take dr dre and blu cantrell for example, the both stole melodies and drumbeats from other artists.

    but thses two sounded nothing alike to be honest

  • Yeah there is a similarity. But not as bad as I thought.

    There are very little musicians atm who can write and create their own original stuff. And it's very foolish to expect something original from Plain White T's. As hard as they try they will not make history with their guitars :) until they make some decent and interesting music.

  • I must be half deaf or half retarded cause I hear two totally different songs.

  • If the shoe fits...

  • haha

  • did you know sir mixalot's 'baby got back' plagiarized the beatle's 'let it be'? the resemblance is about as uncanny.

  • wtf people are starting to look for shit excuses to make bands like the plain white t's look like shyte too. hey there delilah is noooooooooo way close to the sound of this song. ppl need to get a real life man

  • Nope, don't hear it. Look up "aerotwain"

  • umm....they sound nothing alike

  • Ok then, I hear nothing in common

  • I was prepared to hear something much more blatant. I'm glad not only it's not (not that it would have been so really wrong in a way) but also I'm surprised anyone can hear a resemblance...

  • yeh same.

  • the tunes might sound the same, but it's not plagiarism. i've heard a lot of songs that sound similar with each other, but basically they're just different in a way.

  • Good to know, but, once again, probably not plagiarized. It's nice to compare though. Cool.

  • Not plagiarism imho.

    Personally I find it more offensive that this is the only place on youtube where I could hear that Byrds song, but thanks for making the effort.

  • My pleasure. Any opportunity I can get to be an advocate for the Byrds and their music, I take it.

  • Can you upload the whole song please? Would be good to hear it.

  • that whole album is a masterpiece

  • Nah. Although similar, both tunes are basic enough that the Plain White T's could have thought of the tune not realizing something like it was used before.