Ninjutsu Grand Master Masaaki Hatsumi in Action Pt. 7

[TheDavej5068]

what song is this its awsome

[tommyboysailor3333]

Gracias por compartirnos estes videos.....muchiamas gracias.....

[87nicoh]

La música no pega ni a gancho, macho.

[demo666999]

Can you tellme the name of the second song?, it's beautiful, by the way , Very Good video

[babaroga999]

@demo666999

This is a cover from Pink Floyd. Song name is Wish you were here, from the same titled album.

Enjoy

[surobakianinpo]

@babaroga999 second one is hey you, but nevertheless, i'd like to know who did these pink floyd remakes, some of them are good.

[babaroga999]

@surobakianinpo

And "Hey You" is from album "The Wall"...just watched this video till the end...

[9Ratsel9]

At the moment, there are 14 likes and 1 dislike. 14 for video content, 1 for music.

[Arteanor]

@9Ratsel9

20 likes by kids brainwashed to believe this loser knows ninjutsu.

2 for people with the knowledge of japanese history and warfare to know that this guy is a FRAUD

[9Ratsel9]

@Arteanor Have you tested that assumption?

[Arteanor]

@9Ratsel9

no assumption.

claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence... since this school has never substantiated its link to shinobi beyond expecting us to take their word for it... otherwise. i would need some proof for this.

the guy is a blatant liar there IS NO 34 generations

there are 2 generations, since the 3rd one back is FICTIONAL (thats right, toda masamitsu shinryuken is a fictional character.)

[9Ratsel9]

@Arteanor Ahh. This is a matter of lineage. I'm only concerned with the art of....well....the art. Anyone can say what they wish about his claims. But do the principles behind the techniques and movement work?

[Arteanor]

@9Ratsel9

"Anyone can say what they wish about his claims. But do the principles behind the techniques and movement work?"

Anyone can say what they wish about his 'principles behind the techniques and movement '.

But do the 'principles behind the techniques and movement ' have anything to do with ninjutsu?

if you cannot prove that they do, then you are out of your element... kind of like hatsumi.

this is about FABRICATED PEOPLE taking places in a supposed factual direct transmission...

[9Ratsel9]

@Arteanor

I don't care if you call it "The Secret Art Of Tiddlywinks".

If what he's teaching is sound and can protect people, then whether he is teaching taijutsu or ninjutsu or 'bullshido' is entirely besides the point for some people.

[Arteanor]

@9Ratsel9

" don't care if you call it "The Secret Art Of Tiddlywinks".

thank you for so easily admitting that you don't care about FRAUD. good show of integrity

"If what he's teaching is sound and can protect people, then whether he is teaching taijutsu or ninjutsu or 'bullshido' is entirely besides the point for some people"

so fucking what?

i don't give a shit you don't care.. some people DO CARE that the man has made MILLIONS off brutally raping japanese history, to foreigners.

[9Ratsel9]

@Arteanor

Woah. Calm down.

I understand you feel that "the man has made MILLIONS off brutally raping japanese history, to foreigners" as you put it and you take offence. I do not know what happened 900 years ago because I wasn't there.

This man teaches people how to protect themselves. Now the proof of his 'pudding' is in the application of his teachings.

[9Ratsel9]

@Arteanor

He can say whatever he wants to say about himself or the art, but if his techniques actually have protected people and still protect them, then in that respect he is telling the truth.

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor study first, talk then. study topics "takamatsu toshitsugu" "sogaku takeda" to start with.

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

Takamatsu Toshitsugu, fake ninja extraordinaire....

there is absolutely no evidence to support any of the cockamamie stories cooked up by old takamatsu....

in fact... he has changed the story quite a few times... evidence that there IS no real truth, just layers of lies....

seriously, study his proof first, talk then.

"Sogaku Takeda" has absolutely no connection to ninjutsu, he was an Aiki-doka... seriously... did you even google these people before name dropping???

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor as far as i know, aikido was found after death of takeda, so this makes him not-aikidoka for me. and concerning hatsumi - he is soke of 3 ninjutsu ryu, lineage of them is traceable and writen, ryus where given to him by takamatsu. if someone doesn't give me direct proof that this lineage was thought up and false from it's begining i don't have reason not to believe them. martial art of bujinkan is functional and real, hatsumi obviously knows what he's doing and is a master - so what?

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

woopsy. i wrote AikiDOka, meant AikiJUka

my mistake.

"hatsumi - he is soke of 3 ninjutsu ryu," this is assertion without proof.

" lineage of them is traceable and writen," this is heresay, they have never been verified. those that have are written BY TAKAMATSU...

" ryus where given to him by takamatsu. if someone doesn't give me direct proof that this lineage was thought up and false from it's begining i don't have reason not to believe them"

how about togakure being madeup?

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

Tatara magazine page 6.

John Lindsey in an interview with Tanemura S asks: “Did Takamatsu S always call it Togakure ryu?”:

“Not at first. When he was associated with the Kuki family he planed to introduce Kukishin Ryu Ninpo in the form of scrolls and densho. But after the war he distanced himself from the Kuki family and decided not to do this. then he met Hatsumi S. and Fukumoto s. Takamatsu S.i decided to teach them Ninpo. That is when he decided to use the name Ninpo.”

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor this does not mean much to me. do you have a slightest idea how many schools, ryus and clans originated and died during the tokugawa era?no more wars,martial arts were used in civil life,everyone who recieved title of master opened his own dojo and changed name etc.and how many of these samurai dojos did or did not call themselves "ninja".because it's not like - you're a ninja,i'm samurai.many clans and schools practiced aspects of ninjutsu and didn't call it ninpo?

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

"do you have a slightest idea how many schools, ryus and clans originated and died during the tokugawa era?"

i don't understand the relevance...

clans died... so he is allowed to steal a name and make up a historical connection to it? a fictional connection through a person who never existed?>?>

if Takamatsu making up the entire togakure ryu thing because Kuki wouldn't let him use their rather prestigious koryu cred to sell his fake ninja crap isn't enough for you.....

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

":everyone who recieved title of master opened his own dojo and changed name :"

this is utterly preposterous...

if this were the case, then no martial art could be koryu, as none would be verifiable of any age... you propose something that shows an ignorance of the culture, and of the history.

"many clans and schools practiced aspects of ninjutsu and didn't call it ninpo"

so you admit takamatsu only had samurai schools and is just switching to CALL it ninpo? zero integrity?

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor i've got only few more questions - let's say hatsumi is fraud and he is not teaching ninjutsu.

so the question is - who does? do you know any "real" ninjutsu dojo? or is ninjutsu as whole a myth?

i would like to know, because regarding ninpo i try to get all resources from all schools (i myself am NOT a bujinkan student, i study in school with no japanese lineage,yet i know it IS ninjutsu)

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

"so the question is - who does? do you know any "real" ninjutsu dojo?"

absolutely nobody but frauds run 'ninjutsu' DOJO... since we all know that ninjutsu is not, nor does it include any sort of martialarts...

" or is ninjutsu as whole a myth?"

definitely not.

"(i myself am NOT a bujinkan student, i study in school with no japanese lineage,yet i know it IS ninjutsu)"

actually, you are assuming.

read the Bansenshukai, Ninpiden, and Shoninki.

you have no clue what is ninjutsu.

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor better to say it's not only a martial art/combat. but to say it is not martial art at all is bullshit.

stealth,fytotherapy,meteorolog­y,animal control,survival,psychology,ar­t of negotiation,warfare and tactics,astrology,inner energy workings etc etc etc

there are many things ninja did, not all of them did all of it,not all of them were fighting physicaly,but combat definitly is part of ninjutsu...

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

"better to say it's not only a martial art/combat." but that wouldnt be accurate.

"but to say it is not martial art at all is bullshit." uh, ok... how about you show me a source for 'ninjutsu martial arts'.

"not all of them were fighting physicaly,but combat definitly is part of ninjutsu..."

i NEVER said that being a ninja meant you didn't fight, or train martial arts... i said that those skills do not simply BECOME "ninjutsu" when used by a shinobi. get it now?

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor ok, guess i got your point, but even so i don't fully agree. but there's no more reason for arguing, cuz youtube doesn't provide enough of space for this kind of debate, that would take many many more comments.

i wish you good luck and success in your training.

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

you missed the part where i asked you to show me sources for your proposed 'ninjutsu martial arts'

could you please direct me to that.

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor well, come to my town, wait for the school to take new students and study. that's the only source. we don't need scrolls, lineage or anyones aproval to train. master has deep knowledge which goes beyond this life and noone needs to ask him where from, the main thing is he is willing to share it with us and we are willing to learn it.

my personal opinion is, one day when i will be able to trace the origins of our art, i will find them somewhere in wudang mountains or so.

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

"...and study that's the only source. we don't need scrolls, lineage or anyones aproval to train."

YOU'RE RIGHT! however, you DO need a lineage for it to A) be ninjutsu and B) not admit that it came from nowhere and is made-up ( as the lineage is simply the order of masters)

"master has deep knowledge which goes beyond this life and noone needs to ask him where from"

oh really? you claim, 'deep knowledge which goes beyond this life'...Care to Share ANY? 

[surobakianinpo]

@Arteanor as soon as i become a master (if i ever, as that is veeeeeeery long journey) i sure will, cuz i believe that knowledge has to be given further.

[Arteanor]

@surobakianinpo

no no no no no....

YOU CLAIMED your master HAS 'deep knowledge which goes beyond this life'

i want to know how he convinced you of this....

or are you telling me he has TOLD you he has this deep knowledge? has he actually demonstrated it?? explain how for me.

that's all i wanted to know...

and if it's beyond this life, how do you/I/we/he know it is????

[sausaage123]

many thanks for uploading these vids! it must have taken a lot of patience

[thejadewarrior1]

@sausaage123 lol take off of wish you were here pink floyd

[chucknorrispranks]

you really ruined all of these videos of hatsumi sensei by putting this shitty music.

[cronos8788]

why the weird music