Look up the reaction charts on wikipedia. They all produce neutrons or gamma rays, or positrons. Positrons (anti-electrons) destroy themselves when they hit electrons and generate gamma rays.
With only one exception whose reaction product wouldn't react with one of the precursors to generate a neutron or a gamma ray... and that would be Helium 3 with Helium 3.
So unless you work entirely with Helium 3, any fusion you do will generate dangerous radiation.
Muons can be used to reduce the energy required to induce fusion in any fusion situation involving hydrogen or its 2 isotopes... because like I said, it reduces atomic radii temporarily, so atomic densities go up dramatically. Increased density = less energy needed to fuse nuclei.
Muons don't have an effect on Helium 3 because it has 2 electrons around it, and muons are unlikely to replace both, so the atomic radius will remain the same size,
I'm not telling you what to think, I am telling you your logic is flawed. 2 + 2 = 4, and it doesn't matter how you rearrange the numbers or try another mathematical system, the equation works the same.
If you try to fuse hydrogen or deuterium into helium, you get either gamma rays or neutrons. There's no way around that, unless you can add some exotic substance that would either absorb the neutrons while not hindering fusion, or convert the gamma rays to something that can be absorbed.
@ikaruseijin01 what are you talking about? hydrogen OR deuterium, deuterium is a type of hydrogen and muon fusion is not a D+D fusion that is cold fusion, muon fucion is D+T fusion, either we are having a hard time trying to explain our self or your just half wrong
@ikaruseijin01 gamma rays are produce my nuclear fission not nuclear fusion, also something this small if it was fission would not produce enough gamma radiation to kill a person, we are exposed to gamma radiation every single second of our life just so you know. Also this does match the effects of helium4 production, out of all the videos iv seen on youtube regarding cold fusion this is the most likely to be real.
@HONORGUARD308 Look up the nuclear reaction formulae for fusing hydrogen or deuterium and you'll see that neutrons or gamma rays are produced. They have to be produced or conservation of mass/energy is not maintained. Therefore if it *actually* happened, and you weren't behind some heavy lead shielding, you'd be dead from the irradiation.
Also, aside from detecting fusion products afterwards, it's only way of confirming that you actually generated fusion.
@ikaruseijin01 I know the exact formulae for LENR(Cold Fusion) andagain nuclear reactions produced at low energy levels do not produce enough gama radiation to kill a person that is why you dont see companys working on this have lead or boron shields
@HONORGUARD308 There's only one formula to fuse atoms, and if you're producing so little fusion that it produces unnoticeable levels of ionizing radiation, then it's fusing so little hydrogen that you might as well not have bothered. It would be less than a few atoms a second in a reaction. At those levels your net energy output would be massively into the negative numbers.
As I said before: If you have an unshielded reaction and you're not dead, you didn't have fusion.
@HONORGUARD308 Nope, simple physics regarding fusion. It's a clean fuel in that the end products aren't radioactive, and the reactor core isn't radioactive when turned off... but when active and fusing, there would be a lot of gamma radiation and/or neutrons, depending on the kind of fusion you're doing.
Even theoretical low-temperature fusion using muons would kick out some pretty nasty radiation and charged particles.
@ikaruseijin01 But again LENRs dont give off high amounts of gama radiation, again that is why you never see shielding on "Cold Fusion" and muon catalized fusion is in the same situation.
@HONORGUARD308 Obviously you think that this is some "special" type of fusion... There's no such thing.
Fusion is fusion, the process and the results are the same in the sun, as it is in a Tokamak, as it would be in a jar on a bench. Muon injection bends the rules by making atomic radii shrink a bit, but muons don't change the formula as they play no role in the fusion itself. Any actual fusion beyond minuscule levels would result in fatal levels of radiation.
@ikaruseijin01 I hate it when people tell me what think, no i dont think it is some "special" type of fusion, ALL LENR give off very low amounts of gama radiation, also "cold fusion" is not the same process as the sun, same result. also do you even know how muon catalyzed fusion works?? the muons are the only thing making the fusion process happen in muon catalyzed fusion
@HONORGUARD308 Muons are negatively charged like electrons. They want to act like an electron and orbit a proton, but they're quite heavy, and when they do displace an electron, they orbit very very close to the proton.
They increase the rate of fusion because they make the hydrogen or deuterium atoms much smaller. Therefore the nuclei can get much closer to each other without increasing the plasma energy. But the "nuclear" reaction is the same- same results.
its that is a "really" cold i mean like below the 0 Celcius. and what will be that water become ? and are that "thing" will be explode ? im sorry for my bad english.
Hi, I am genuinely interested in your project, I would love to know more, really interested in alternative energy designs as I am exploring options. Thanks.
Why not collect the helium isotopes and test them?
Perhaps you are only separating hydrogen from water, allowing some to build up, and then burning it.
Calculating the total energy in the system before the experiment, total energy added to the system throughout the experiment, energy lost from the system, and then the total energy in the system when it is at rest after the experiment could prove very difficult and controversial.
Why not start by trying to confirm the presence of helium?
You guys seem likes idiots who does something dangerous, not with the right safety conditions. You're doing that in a basement or a garage? That's not safe. Imagine if the whole "experiment" went completely wrong and you were all electrocuted or you suffered major burns if that glass had exploded.
Best way to prove that fusion is taking place is to have a radiation meter, as I think in the process of high energy fusion, x-rays are produced, Neutrons as well. As well as to take samples of the gas coming from the jar. There are places that can do gas spectrum tests to tell you what gasses you captured. Which you could just be making plasma. Need a radiation meter and a way to capture gas from the experiment. Plus a radiation meter would be good safety if it is fusion going on.
Try 1 gram Nickel powders in micrometer size enclosed in a massive copper-plated steel chamber w/ 1g of H gas & 1g of benzene & graphene in varying ratio--just get the right mixture of the catalysts (benzene and graphene are the catalysts needed to ionize H). The chamber should then be hermetically sealed and heated by resistors up to 400 deg. Just monitor or maintain that temperature at start-up by water boiling. If temp abruptly rises to dangerous level, stop the current flow to the resistors.
This (what you describe) is the current method being used in Japan & Europe, yes? I know toyota has a fully operational design. There is a reactor in France.
Petro-dollars are a fundamental basis for world economy.. without the oil.. the internationalists (Idumean's) lose their grip on the world. I say that.. because most people here defeat themselves in thought before understanding why the world is operating so backwards today. I have video's of cars running on H2o.
Electrolysis producing HHO and burning it at the same time due to excessive current. Prove to me that helium is being released, it should be easy; trap the gas given off in a plastic bag. If it definitely doesnt burn AND the bag floats up. You may be onto something. The only thing you might get however is a bit of HHO released the hasnt burnt.
i don't think you get it, this exact configuration has been tried in thousands of different forms. He has no reason to believe that he has made fusion, He hasn't even tried to show proof of neutron emission. This is essentially the same as me claiming to be Jesus and saying i'm right until you prove me wrong.
seriously why do people comment this if the comment is going to be negative? If you can't support his idea with positive input, then the comment is not needed. David obviously has SOME sort of idea of what he's doing otherwise, he wouldn't have wasted time on it.
you obviously have ZERO understanding of the confinement forces needed for fusion. Serously man, you think you cracked free power with an arc underwater?
Confinement forces are absolutely not necessary for a 'cold fusion' process to occur. The electrode is the negative part of the circuit in my vessel, and it is where the hydrogen gas forms during electrolysis. As I increase the voltage, the hydrogen gas is ionized (meaning it loses its electrons). So, the remaining hydrogen ions (H^+) are attracted to the electrode with little repelling forces (i.e. a magnet). This is enough "force" to start fusion.
How can you know that you are actually "fusing" the hydrogen ions? When can we expect some mass spectrometry data that proves you have actually transmuted hydrogen into helium? A lot of people on YouTube claim this device creates a "Cold Fusion" nuclear reaction, but none of them back it up with any REAL data. It seems to me that this is nothing more than an under water plasma-electrolysis lights show--which is exactly what you keep describing--not fusion.
Until I have solid experimental data, I cannot really say that this is 100% cold fusion for sure. However, the changes I have observed in my vessel/variac/wiring during the process are indicators that there is a reaction occuring. I am going to talk to my chemistry/physics professors once school starts up again, and request a brief lab session to do my testing with. I should have analysis up within the month or so. Until then, this could possibly be just plasma...
I don't know how you are claim to produce helium when you make no effort whatsoever to even find out what is happening! Ridiculous! As if particle physicists hadn't thought about using an electric field for cold fusion!
Sorry man, years experience of fighting with retards on the internet has taught me just to not try.
Your full of s**t. And if you honestly think your not, Then you have problems. The fact is you have done NOTHING different to any of the thousands of experiments others have done. And they were full of s**t too.
@mrtruthify I don't say cold fusion isn't possible in some form, but there needs to be some mechanism of confinement. And an arc under water does not cut it, It has been tried in every different form and not worked. Also did any one else notice that 185kj out vs 168kj in is about exactly the ratio one would expect if you were using a cheap non-RMS electrical meter, and didn't factor that in? And if your making those kind of mistakes, you ain't even electrician material, let alone physicist.
well, i probably dont know anything at all, but isn't the final idea to have more energy come out then goes in? this will need some way of starting the process and then stablizing it were it can run by itself with no further input other than fuel in the form of.. what will it run off? water?
The purpose of this video was to show the step up between plasma electrolysis and cold fusion. The process of cold fusion does output a greater amount of energy (in joules) then the input, but it is unnecessary that it power itself to achieve this. I hypothesize that when I finish my analysis, the results will look somewhat like Input=168000J, Output=185000J. This for example would be obtained using my house current, yet it results in an excess of energy.
@TheOriginalSilence so it kind of works like a really snazzy step up transformer, but instead of having a current drop with a voltage increase the current goes up with the voltage and therefor you have more energy on the output than to input? or maybe its sort of like the old tube amps?
@benjorgensen1 yes, of course that's the final idea, this seems to me to be the step by step testing of a process which will eventually conclude in a solution. Take a step back man and look at the big picture.
Absolutely fascinating demonstration. Watch out though, the government is watching YOU! Heck I will vote for you for President if your experiment will lower my electric bill! Davie, YOU ROCK! Toni
Dammit it lost my comment :S - What I said was in agreement with WickedWisdom990, could we have a bit more of a theoretical and technical commentary please - and most of all, please use a bloody tripod on the camera :p :) Otherwise nice job - hope you do more.
I came here from watching bong rips
dover08 2 weeks ago
Look up the reaction charts on wikipedia. They all produce neutrons or gamma rays, or positrons. Positrons (anti-electrons) destroy themselves when they hit electrons and generate gamma rays.
With only one exception whose reaction product wouldn't react with one of the precursors to generate a neutron or a gamma ray... and that would be Helium 3 with Helium 3.
So unless you work entirely with Helium 3, any fusion you do will generate dangerous radiation.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
Muons can be used to reduce the energy required to induce fusion in any fusion situation involving hydrogen or its 2 isotopes... because like I said, it reduces atomic radii temporarily, so atomic densities go up dramatically. Increased density = less energy needed to fuse nuclei.
Muons don't have an effect on Helium 3 because it has 2 electrons around it, and muons are unlikely to replace both, so the atomic radius will remain the same size,
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
I'm not telling you what to think, I am telling you your logic is flawed. 2 + 2 = 4, and it doesn't matter how you rearrange the numbers or try another mathematical system, the equation works the same.
If you try to fuse hydrogen or deuterium into helium, you get either gamma rays or neutrons. There's no way around that, unless you can add some exotic substance that would either absorb the neutrons while not hindering fusion, or convert the gamma rays to something that can be absorbed.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
@ikaruseijin01 what are you talking about? hydrogen OR deuterium, deuterium is a type of hydrogen and muon fusion is not a D+D fusion that is cold fusion, muon fucion is D+T fusion, either we are having a hard time trying to explain our self or your just half wrong
HONORGUARD308 3 weeks ago
If it were genuine Hydrogen fusion you'd be dead from the gamma rays and neutrons. But you aren't so it's not fusion.
Producing plasma does not mean you're doing fusion.
ikaruseijin01 1 month ago
@ikaruseijin01 gamma rays are produce my nuclear fission not nuclear fusion, also something this small if it was fission would not produce enough gamma radiation to kill a person, we are exposed to gamma radiation every single second of our life just so you know. Also this does match the effects of helium4 production, out of all the videos iv seen on youtube regarding cold fusion this is the most likely to be real.
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@HONORGUARD308 Look up the nuclear reaction formulae for fusing hydrogen or deuterium and you'll see that neutrons or gamma rays are produced. They have to be produced or conservation of mass/energy is not maintained. Therefore if it *actually* happened, and you weren't behind some heavy lead shielding, you'd be dead from the irradiation.
Also, aside from detecting fusion products afterwards, it's only way of confirming that you actually generated fusion.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
@ikaruseijin01 I know the exact formulae for LENR(Cold Fusion) andagain nuclear reactions produced at low energy levels do not produce enough gama radiation to kill a person that is why you dont see companys working on this have lead or boron shields
HONORGUARD308 3 weeks ago
@HONORGUARD308 There's only one formula to fuse atoms, and if you're producing so little fusion that it produces unnoticeable levels of ionizing radiation, then it's fusing so little hydrogen that you might as well not have bothered. It would be less than a few atoms a second in a reaction. At those levels your net energy output would be massively into the negative numbers.
As I said before: If you have an unshielded reaction and you're not dead, you didn't have fusion.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
@ikaruseijin01 i belive you are mistaking fusion and fission
HONORGUARD308 3 weeks ago
@HONORGUARD308 Nope, simple physics regarding fusion. It's a clean fuel in that the end products aren't radioactive, and the reactor core isn't radioactive when turned off... but when active and fusing, there would be a lot of gamma radiation and/or neutrons, depending on the kind of fusion you're doing.
Even theoretical low-temperature fusion using muons would kick out some pretty nasty radiation and charged particles.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
@ikaruseijin01 But again LENRs dont give off high amounts of gama radiation, again that is why you never see shielding on "Cold Fusion" and muon catalized fusion is in the same situation.
HONORGUARD308 3 weeks ago
@HONORGUARD308 Obviously you think that this is some "special" type of fusion... There's no such thing.
Fusion is fusion, the process and the results are the same in the sun, as it is in a Tokamak, as it would be in a jar on a bench. Muon injection bends the rules by making atomic radii shrink a bit, but muons don't change the formula as they play no role in the fusion itself. Any actual fusion beyond minuscule levels would result in fatal levels of radiation.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
@ikaruseijin01 I hate it when people tell me what think, no i dont think it is some "special" type of fusion, ALL LENR give off very low amounts of gama radiation, also "cold fusion" is not the same process as the sun, same result. also do you even know how muon catalyzed fusion works?? the muons are the only thing making the fusion process happen in muon catalyzed fusion
HONORGUARD308 3 weeks ago
@HONORGUARD308 Muons are negatively charged like electrons. They want to act like an electron and orbit a proton, but they're quite heavy, and when they do displace an electron, they orbit very very close to the proton.
They increase the rate of fusion because they make the hydrogen or deuterium atoms much smaller. Therefore the nuclei can get much closer to each other without increasing the plasma energy. But the "nuclear" reaction is the same- same results.
ikaruseijin01 3 weeks ago
its that is a "really" cold i mean like below the 0 Celcius. and what will be that water become ? and are that "thing" will be explode ? im sorry for my bad english.
erlangibr1 1 month ago
Hi, I am genuinely interested in your project, I would love to know more, really interested in alternative energy designs as I am exploring options. Thanks.
kombuchaempire 2 months ago
Why not collect the helium isotopes and test them?
Perhaps you are only separating hydrogen from water, allowing some to build up, and then burning it.
Calculating the total energy in the system before the experiment, total energy added to the system throughout the experiment, energy lost from the system, and then the total energy in the system when it is at rest after the experiment could prove very difficult and controversial.
Why not start by trying to confirm the presence of helium?
momentinpassing 3 months ago
You guys seem likes idiots who does something dangerous, not with the right safety conditions. You're doing that in a basement or a garage? That's not safe. Imagine if the whole "experiment" went completely wrong and you were all electrocuted or you suffered major burns if that glass had exploded.
BengyLamb 5 months ago
EDIT: Water.
mrtruthify 6 months ago
FIRE from WARER.......
mrtruthify 6 months ago
Best way to prove that fusion is taking place is to have a radiation meter, as I think in the process of high energy fusion, x-rays are produced, Neutrons as well. As well as to take samples of the gas coming from the jar. There are places that can do gas spectrum tests to tell you what gasses you captured. Which you could just be making plasma. Need a radiation meter and a way to capture gas from the experiment. Plus a radiation meter would be good safety if it is fusion going on.
forwardbias 6 months ago
@forwardbias
Incorrect.. COLD-fusion will not produce stated harmful radiation.
Please seek clarification.
However.. transmutation of elements WILL occure.. that is one way we know we have fusion.
mrtruthify 6 months ago
Try 1 gram Nickel powders in micrometer size enclosed in a massive copper-plated steel chamber w/ 1g of H gas & 1g of benzene & graphene in varying ratio--just get the right mixture of the catalysts (benzene and graphene are the catalysts needed to ionize H). The chamber should then be hermetically sealed and heated by resistors up to 400 deg. Just monitor or maintain that temperature at start-up by water boiling. If temp abruptly rises to dangerous level, stop the current flow to the resistors.
rotaryinnovator 7 months ago
@rotaryinnovator
This (what you describe) is the current method being used in Japan & Europe, yes? I know toyota has a fully operational design. There is a reactor in France.
Petro-dollars are a fundamental basis for world economy.. without the oil.. the internationalists (Idumean's) lose their grip on the world. I say that.. because most people here defeat themselves in thought before understanding why the world is operating so backwards today. I have video's of cars running on H2o.
mrtruthify 6 months ago
Great vid guys. Where did you get that variac?
kjbaran 7 months ago
what do have do do u use heathy water? how do make this i am very interest
CUBETechie 8 months ago
Be careful, rays coming out of this thing can harm you.
youtuubbguy66 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I dunno. Is this, a joke or what?
Tehtog 11 months ago
Electrolysis producing HHO and burning it at the same time due to excessive current. Prove to me that helium is being released, it should be easy; trap the gas given off in a plastic bag. If it definitely doesnt burn AND the bag floats up. You may be onto something. The only thing you might get however is a bit of HHO released the hasnt burnt.
fjferd 11 months ago
i don't think you get it, this exact configuration has been tried in thousands of different forms. He has no reason to believe that he has made fusion, He hasn't even tried to show proof of neutron emission. This is essentially the same as me claiming to be Jesus and saying i'm right until you prove me wrong.
GeeksWithFeet 1 year ago
i dont think u have enough power yet. also use heavy water and lithium salts
Techrave1 1 year ago
nice job!
ReturnofRage 1 year ago
Like a sun in a vessel
ConorC96 1 year ago
Fake
ygavesh 1 year ago
seriously why do people comment this if the comment is going to be negative? If you can't support his idea with positive input, then the comment is not needed. David obviously has SOME sort of idea of what he's doing otherwise, he wouldn't have wasted time on it.
TheOriginalLampshade 1 year ago
you obviously have ZERO understanding of the confinement forces needed for fusion. Serously man, you think you cracked free power with an arc underwater?
GeeksWithFeet 1 year ago
Hey GeeksWithFeet! Sorry for the wait!
Confinement forces are absolutely not necessary for a 'cold fusion' process to occur. The electrode is the negative part of the circuit in my vessel, and it is where the hydrogen gas forms during electrolysis. As I increase the voltage, the hydrogen gas is ionized (meaning it loses its electrons). So, the remaining hydrogen ions (H^+) are attracted to the electrode with little repelling forces (i.e. a magnet). This is enough "force" to start fusion.
TheOriginalSilence 1 year ago
@TheOriginalSilence
How can you know that you are actually "fusing" the hydrogen ions? When can we expect some mass spectrometry data that proves you have actually transmuted hydrogen into helium? A lot of people on YouTube claim this device creates a "Cold Fusion" nuclear reaction, but none of them back it up with any REAL data. It seems to me that this is nothing more than an under water plasma-electrolysis lights show--which is exactly what you keep describing--not fusion.
electricyeti3327 1 year ago
Hey electricyeti3327!
Until I have solid experimental data, I cannot really say that this is 100% cold fusion for sure. However, the changes I have observed in my vessel/variac/wiring during the process are indicators that there is a reaction occuring. I am going to talk to my chemistry/physics professors once school starts up again, and request a brief lab session to do my testing with. I should have analysis up within the month or so. Until then, this could possibly be just plasma...
TheOriginalSilence 1 year ago
@TheOriginalSilence Just trap the bloody gas! It's not difficult!
I don't know how you are claim to produce helium when you make no effort whatsoever to even find out what is happening! Ridiculous! As if particle physicists hadn't thought about using an electric field for cold fusion!
UncleKennybobs 8 months ago
@TheOriginalSilence So, I assume you have spoke with your chemistry/physics professor & have come to some sort of conclusion?
madjimms 2 months ago
@TheOriginalSilence
Sorry man, years experience of fighting with retards on the internet has taught me just to not try.
Your full of s**t. And if you honestly think your not, Then you have problems. The fact is you have done NOTHING different to any of the thousands of experiments others have done. And they were full of s**t too.
GeeksWithFeet 1 year ago
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Techrave1 1 year ago
@Techrave1 Grow up you child
UncleKennybobs 8 months ago
@Techrave1 Grow up you child
UncleKennybobs 8 months ago
@GeeksWithFeet
Umm.. clearly to have no understanding of COLD-fusion.
mrtruthify 6 months ago
@mrtruthify I don't say cold fusion isn't possible in some form, but there needs to be some mechanism of confinement. And an arc under water does not cut it, It has been tried in every different form and not worked. Also did any one else notice that 185kj out vs 168kj in is about exactly the ratio one would expect if you were using a cheap non-RMS electrical meter, and didn't factor that in? And if your making those kind of mistakes, you ain't even electrician material, let alone physicist.
GeeksWithFeet 6 months ago
@GeeksWithFeet
OK. Well then I would tend to agree with your points GeeksWithFeet.
Have you ever tinkered around with said device? Any interesting results?
mrtruthify 6 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! "COLD FUSION"
juan3238 1 year ago
well, i probably dont know anything at all, but isn't the final idea to have more energy come out then goes in? this will need some way of starting the process and then stablizing it were it can run by itself with no further input other than fuel in the form of.. what will it run off? water?
benjorgensen1 1 year ago
Hey benjorgensen1!
The purpose of this video was to show the step up between plasma electrolysis and cold fusion. The process of cold fusion does output a greater amount of energy (in joules) then the input, but it is unnecessary that it power itself to achieve this. I hypothesize that when I finish my analysis, the results will look somewhat like Input=168000J, Output=185000J. This for example would be obtained using my house current, yet it results in an excess of energy.
TheOriginalSilence 1 year ago
@TheOriginalSilence so it kind of works like a really snazzy step up transformer, but instead of having a current drop with a voltage increase the current goes up with the voltage and therefor you have more energy on the output than to input? or maybe its sort of like the old tube amps?
benjorgensen1 1 year ago
@TheOriginalSilence If thats the percentage increase in energy, then it's not fusion. It's poor measurement.
Tehtog 11 months ago 2
@benjorgensen1 yes, of course that's the final idea, this seems to me to be the step by step testing of a process which will eventually conclude in a solution. Take a step back man and look at the big picture.
zzzztj 7 months ago
Absolutely fascinating demonstration. Watch out though, the government is watching YOU! Heck I will vote for you for President if your experiment will lower my electric bill! Davie, YOU ROCK! Toni
nrsfriend 1 year ago
Absolutely awesome David - don't stop your pursuit in new theories.
Science is wonderful - but as for the explanation - R U speaking English!!!! ;-)
O'Fortuna...always a great intro.
WickedWisdom990 1 year ago
@WickedWisdom990
zzzztj 7 months ago
Dammit it lost my comment :S - What I said was in agreement with WickedWisdom990, could we have a bit more of a theoretical and technical commentary please - and most of all, please use a bloody tripod on the camera :p :) Otherwise nice job - hope you do more.
zzzztj 7 months ago