If Trish was around during Madusa's days, Trish wouldn't last for two seconds. The only modern woman who could probably go pound for pound with Madusa is Michelle McCool.
@jungle10ful Michelle has REAL athletic ability, she's taller (about the same height as Madusa) and a better wrestler than any of the modern women and that includes Trish who does the same 3 moves in every match.
@HotBoy147 Those 3 moves is called SIGNATURE MOVES, something that Michelle knows NOTHING about considering the fact she changes her finisher every 3 seconds. And she's not better than ANY modern women because those modern day divas have Beth, Natalya, AJ, Melina and Mickie. (Trish retired a long time ago) lol
@jungle10ful Youi're right-Michelle has an ARSENAL of moves so there's no need for her to use the same 3 moves in every match and Michelle doesn't BOTCH all of her moves like Trish. :-) And um Michelle has beaten all of the women you just named and that chick AJ is just a waste of space.
@HotBoy147 Trish botch???? Lol. Your a idiot. Im done with you. She was botching when she was still learning but by 2003 she became way better than Michelle could ever dream of becoming. Victoria and Trish were pulling some 5STAR matches during their feud. Michelle was still doing botch chick kicks. Please.
@jungle10ful Please my dick-I can't find a Trish Stratus match where she didn't botch. Take a look at WM 17 where she botched every move she did. If not for Jazz and Lita carrying that match-it would have been the worst match ever at a Wrestlemania thanks to Trish. Michelle is a REAL athlete and all of her feuds with women like Melina, Mickie James, Beth Phoenix and Natalya were FLAWLESS matches. Now I'm done with you-REAL TALK.
@jungle10ful Um Lita was NOT green at the time considering she was wrestling since '99 and that WM took place in 2002. Please learn history about the wrestlers before making foolish statements. Goodbye.
@jungle10ful LOL what does Molly Holly have to do with this convo? You were talking about Lita being GREEN and now you bring Molly Holly into this? Maaaan sit it down because you're not making any sense to me LMAO.
@jungle10ful Who cares what Nora Greenwald thinks? I'm not even a fan of Lita and will always remember her over Molly Holly. Lita went on to become one of the most popular woman ever in the ring and a 4 time Women's champ-Molly had a shaved head and was wearing wigs to the ring for comedy relief. So who had the better career between the two?
You have yet to make a point to me so do me a favor and stop responding back because you're just making a fool out of yourself. Thanks.
@HotBoy147 She was in that match. She didn't sell the fisherman buster correctly. But it happens some divas have stage freights even after doing a great epic match. There nerves get the best of them. Lita and Trish are one of the best. Please respect everyone here and stop attacking divas. There all scripted no matter how you roll the dice. So if its scripted should you even be attacking any of the divas? lol come on
@HotBoy147 Trish did not botch lol. She did great in that match. Michelle is a great diva. She is good but not better. Michelle botched alot. Almost every diva botches it happens. But i watched that match you said Trish botches alot in and i don't see at one point she botched. If she did anymore people would have said she was over reacting.
@HotBoy147 Michelle is a botch queen sorry i analyze every match and her kicks are always off. The moves Trihs do are signature moves. Thats why some are done in every match. Michelle needs much more practice before she consider herself as good as the legend divas.
@HotBoy147 Woah what an insult to Madusa. Trish sustained more damage then any other diva. I think she could handle Madusa. Trish and Madusa would create another 5 star match. If you say Trish couldn't last with Madusa but Michelle can then you might as well say that kelly kelly is better then bull nakano.
People are going to use other people's created moves. Bound to happen no matter what. All of you think Bret created the Sharpshooter don't ya? Well most of you anyways. But you are wrong..SO WRONG. Not invented by Bret :) So BASH ON HIM. But I doubt you will cause most of you are marks.
What did I do wrong? I am not going to take back what I said months ago.
Again, I did not criticize Madusa and I did not make her into Satan. I respect your opinion and those who like Madusa--I respect her as a wrestler; I respect the fact that she is very respectful of Sherri, Luna and especially Nakano--I have issues with her truthfulness and candor; and she was not as good as Lola Gonzalez either.
I know Madusa would love to get back into WWE good graces; and I suspect, being Madusa, she has her own motives obvious and some not; but the woman broke her azz in the ring--other than the Crush Gals, Jaguar Yokota and Bull Nakano herself who faced not only great American but also Mexican wrestlers Madusa faced the most divergent opponents and did well; I suspect even at her age Madusa would like to step into the ring with Torrie Wilson and Stacey one more time--
I want to find a way to have many of the YouTubers who post women wrestling matches start to compile on the following topic: what moves did Trish Stratus steal from other women wrestlers--and without accreditation:
I have a YouTube friend who is a Lita smark who may be able to confirm the rumor that Trish stole a move from Lita and renamed it the Stratusfaction; here she stole a move from Madusa; and the move I call the face buster she stole from Bull Nakano.
@RPenta We see your a hater. And worst of your on every page saying or mumbling dumb ass shit. You claim you hate some divas and love some. And if it wasn't for the ones you hated the ones you love wouldn't even have a career. It takes two divas to make a good match. Talk about a walking, talking, lame ass.
Can you pleasestop ruining EVERY single madusa video? Really, I cant even listen to Madusas theme and scroll down to see what other people think about it without their being a 220 peragragh for RPenta expalining why Madusa is Satan.
I re-read all of my 220 paragraphs--please use spell check!-I did not criticize Madusa here; in fact I agreed with the people who said either that Trish stole the move or did not do it as well as Madusa.
Please, do not become a Madusa mark; although her other 4 fans can use some company.
I know that comment was 2 months ago but what I said goes for all of you 220 paragraph youve ever written, and no I wont use spellcheck! eye kan tak lik dis all dei!!! Oh and too late I am a "Madusa Mark" and proud of it!
I used to be just like you, a smart ass! till someone had to go dig in my ass, and teach me a lesson the hard way, just wait lil boy,
I actually have some decensy to respect peoples opinions! I never said anything bad about Reggie Bennet and Bull!!!!!
@RPenta Again on another Trish page hating. I swear im gonna call your old ass out on every page i see you. Because ppl need to see how obsessed you are with Trish!!! No one stole shit. You just starting lame ass shit because you have no life.
You will be happy to hear this: Madusa was a much better wrestler than Trish; Status is the most overrated women's wrestler of all time--yes, she ripped off Madusa's move.
@RPenta I disagree that Trish is not overrated. She earned her accomplishments. But I do agree that Medusa should be recognized for her achievements and contributions to the Wrestling business. And she is a better in ring talent than Trish. And yes maybe that one move Trish did learn from Medusa. I would still like to see a dream match.
@RPenta Well a dream match would be Medusa vs Trish and it will never happen because Micelli will probably never return to WWE on decent or good terms. I would be really shocked. If I ever saw Medusa in WWE ring again.
Eric Bishoff cooks up this nasty idea about dropping the belt he gets a freaking job with Vinny years later! Madusa gets the phantom zone; and if it was not for Jim Ross mentioning how phenomenal Nakano was either on tv or his blog 90% of the fans in WWE would never have heard of her. By the way, my reseach has uncovered this bombshell in 2007 interview, Luna Vachon claims in 1996 or 1997 Linda McMahon was going to hire Maduse back to feud with Sable! Luna said she told Linda not to do it
to compare Nakano to Trish and even Molly, Lita, and Chyna. I don't diss Trish; she has talent and worked hard and is beautiful but her fans go too far. Chyna was great but limited, Molly, Ivory, Jazz, and Jacqueline were really fine pro wresters and therefore wasted in WWE.
HotBoy: is there not some value to Nakano in HOF. The WWE treated her like crap in the stupid match in April, 1995 when she dropped the belt back to Madusa; Nakano's last WWE match.
Madusa had a long an excellent career in wrestling; AWA, Japan, WWF, and WCW-she learned a lot in Japan including from Bull Nakano. Nakano-not Trish, Lita, Beth Phoenix, Molly Holly, or Chyna or Moolah was the greatest woman's wrestler to hold the title--repect to Sherri and Wendi Richter also. It is about f*****g time the fanboys and fangirls in WWE Universe rediscovered her and get this great star and nice person in the WWE Hall of Fame-so, how do we do that folks?
I agree with you, Madusa was a major talent in wrestling. Even though her last few months in WCW were a waste and it wasn't her fault. But scumbag Vince McMahon would NEVER put her into the WWE Hall of Fame because of the infamous women's title in the trash segment on Nitro a few years back.
The WWE Hall of Fame doesn't have any real value to it anyway because just about everyone in it except Bret Hart is in the "Vince McMahon kiss my ass club".
I am beginning a research project into the life and career of Bull Nakano so if anyone has any useful--yes, useful info to pass onto me I would appreciate it.
As a side project, I am trying to rally support to put Bull into WWE HOF; unlike many other inductees she does not need money from Vince but I figure:1) the ceremony if done well will be fantastic; 2)it will introduce Bull to a generation of fans who don't know of her; 3)it will put a damper (maybe) on the Trish insanity
But Madusa aka Alundra was very tough back in her AWA/WCW days. I think the WWE should have kept her as Madusa. I didn't like the Alundra Blayze gimmik very much!
yea not to mention her 6th title win was against some one who was injured most the match.only cuase lita injured her knee be cuase she made a misscaculation.and her fifth one was shouldve gone to lita.lita was the one who knocked gail out.trish pulled lita out of the ring and stole the pin.and if u look at it.lita tuaght the stratusfation to trish.so i think its really safe to say that trish pretty much owes everything she accomplished to lita.dont get me wronge she got real good in time.
I'll give Trish some credit for winning the championship 7 times but her athletic ability just cant compare to most other champions. Jacqueline, Chyna, Alundra Blayze, Jazz, Lita, and of course Bull Nakano! WWE should expand their championships to other promotions if they know whats best for them
We all know that WWE is all about entertaining, but it doesn't me that the moves should look "fake" too as well the storyline concept of entertainment wrestling. the difference of Alundra's and Trish's execution of that head scissors take down is that Alundra's is more realistic, the fluidity if her move is impeccable, as for Trish's, it really looks like a scripted move...
Come on Trish is not even close to a match to Madusa!!! Madusa is a wrestler that came from Japan. Trish is like some "diva".....Trish wouldn't last in the ring with Madusa.
@ShlongWayHung yes she did steal alundra blayze move! are you mad because someone actually post it revealing it? fuck trish stratus alundra blayze is way better and a true talent.
@handful808 Every wrestler uses another wrestlers moves. There is no copyright on moves. Most ppl say Trish stole her move if anything Trish was using the move in respects of Alundra. Never thought of thay way? Trish is a great diva so is Alundra. So by you attacking someone you don't even know in real life doesn't make you look good.
@handful808 Yes I mean woman for Alundra and please don't be rude. And if alundra was still in WWE or at least stuck around the Lita era she would have been called a Diva. Diva holds a strong definition to it. Whether Alundra left before time she would have been called a diva if she stayed.So your attitude could be used else where. Not on this video page. Thank You
@DivasGameHouse okay shut up! your annoying. alundra blayze over trish stratus anyday. alundra blayze was a real athlete trish stratus was just a puppet for vince mcmahon.
@handful808 You shut the hell up! Thats your opinion and so what?? All divas were athletes wrestling is an athletic sport you should know that. Lol anyways Trish Vince's puppet? Ok this shows your ignorance to wwe history. You really need to know how to speak to ppl. Trish done a lot i don't care who you are if you are fair you would at least acknowledge that. Trish and Lita have done much more then Alundra. i respect Alundra and Love her but I have to be honest at the end of the day.
@DivasGameHouse bitch divas like mickie james,lita and alundra blyaze done way more than trish did. trish stratus is an example why a lot of indies female wrestlers wont go to the wwe because u have eye candy sex symbols like trish stratus gettin the shine that the real hard working athletes deserve. divas like lita and mickie james showed fans that its not about looks its about hard work. lita and mickie james worked the indies 4 years somethin trish stratus never did. get your facts right.
@handful808 You dumb waste of life CUNT!!! Trish put away her sex appeal back in 1999 you need to jump back on the train its 2011 BITCH! Get on board or get your ass left behind. Lol indies don't choose if they come to wwe its wwe that chooses if they can come in the wwe. You need to get your damn facts strait. Many divas before her got there shine she was just a recent case in over exceeding with champ wins. Ppl like you just can't stand ones success so what you do? You hate!!
@handful808 The one thing I will always do is give credit to where its due. Every diva worked hard they helped each other get to the top. Lita wouldn't be the Lita we knew without her storylines with Trish. Same for other divas. Mickie james botches alot in the WWE but she was wrestling for what 20 years. You need to give credit where its due and grow the fuck up. How the hell you holding a diva accountable for some shit back in 1999. We in the fucking 2011. Get on it or fall down. SIMPLE!
@handful808 I never disrespected you first but I can see when someone can't come up with facts and cant stand there ground so what you do. try and say dumb shit thinking I will back off or walk away hell naw. I hold ppl accountable for what they say. you wanna say shit prove it!! Its sad that you have to take wwe like its real. Its a fucking scripted. Why you taking fake wrestling so damn serious lol.
@handful808 I can say Lita and trish are in the same boat but Mickie, and alundra did not do more then the attitude era divas. She was an awesome fighter but she was not know for fighting guys, hardcore matches, steel cage matches, street fight matches, ladder matches, battle of the sexes matches, female vs male matches. those are what Trish, Lita, Victoria, Jazz, and Jackie were known for. Thats what im simple saying.
@DivasGameHouse you say alundra blayze and mickie james didnt do much but u put jazz,jackie and victoria in it? your contradicting. victoria,jazz and even jackie aka jacqueline were all stepping stoles for trish stratus. lita was out with a neck injury so she isnt included. like sable back in the early attitude era trish stratus was the poster girl and was pushed based on looks. and still to today she is the most overrated wwe diva ever. its not working hard when she was shoved down out throats.
@handful808 Mickie james was overrated as well. She was in the the wwe for so little and accomplished Lita's 4 title reign. if mickie had stayed she would have been overrated.Trish was overrated how? Trish took the damage from the guys and did everything Lita did. The thing is that your saying she is overrated your saying she was a poster girl where is your facts or at least reasons. Jazz and Victoria wasn't stepping stones for Trish. Jazz was fighting way before.
@handful808 If it was on looks there were plenty of girls that was as pretty as Trish so why Trish? The thing is there was many components on why Trish was chosen. Remember Lita in the WWE's eyes is the second best diva in wrestling. So I think Lita has a great name with WWE. She worked hard im not gonna attack Trish or any diva. i know if im not in the ring doing what they do then who the hell am I to say they did not work hard or earned there spot.
@handful808 Overrated is totally opinionated just like being the best diva is opinionated there is no facts to say any diva in history is the best. that's why when i her people say there diva is the bet I laugh at them and then ask where is your facts? its scripted so how can any diva be the best in my opinion every diva is the best in there own way. If lita wanted to leave before they was gonna give her her 5th title shot that's her choice.
@DivasGameHouse put two and two together. the proof is in the pudding. trish stratus is no different than kelly kelly,candice michelle or sable. she was eye candy and just another sex symbol in the wwe that made it hard for the real athletes who bust their asses and were passionate about wrestling. victoria and trish were both fitness models but why did victoria have to go through the process of training before coming to the wwe? doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
@handful808 There is a big difference between kelly k and trish that def doesn't take a caveman to figure that out.Again we are in 2011 after 1999 placed the sex symbol appeal far behind her. She started dressing appropriately and getting physical. But the thing is she placed her sex appeal away before she won her champs. Just because she is pretty its not her fault. Why is it ppl cant give credit where its due. She wasn't like torrie or kelly doing live strip contests and dancing on guys.
@handful808 She happened to play a storyline which again was fake. She was just as passionate like any other diva she just played a storyline that had her dressed as a pin up doll. its called acting. She did it very well. thats the thing you need the full package to be a great womans champ. The factor, skills, the ability to sell moves,and create realistic drama with the storylines. Lita was very green when it came to storylines it wasn't till 2004 she started making her storylines look real
@handful808 Trish worked just as hard as any of the divas and deserve her shots. She did what kelly kelly and all those barbies couldn't do. Fight the men, 1 on 1 with men, battle of the sexes, hardcore matches, submission matches, ladder matches streetfight matches, and much more. She took major damage from the guys. That doesn't sound like a barbie, fitness model, or sex symbol to me. I just think its pure biasness sorry but thats the truth.
@handful808 You keep saying everything but the truth she worked her ass off and got physical. she made the most powerful evolution to a diva. one who came in as a beginner and picked up great skills. I just hate that because she is pretty ppl hate her. Its not her fault she is not God. She can't help that. Why else do you think these divas are so popular? they helped each other grow. Lita and trish made the best fued in history. If trish was so bad then ppl wouldn't acknowledge her.
@DivasGameHouse lmao how did trish stratus come in as a beginner when she wasnt even a "wrestler" at first? did i say i hate trishs stratus? lmao stop jumping to conclusions and stop gettin so defensive. you trish stratus fans kill me. when ppl say the truth about her u all feel everyone hates her. pull the panties out your asscrack. like i said the wwe used the more deserving and more talented divas like molly holly,victoria and jazz as a stepping stole for trish stratus thats the truth.
@handful808 Defensive lol your should be a comedian. Im a fan of every diva that worked hard lets get that straight first. And there is a difference when someone says the truth and when someone hates on another persons success and can't really say the truth. Im done with all this back and forth shit. You said something and i responded to it. you yet to state any facts its been like what my 8th comment and no damn facts. Lol maybe you should stop sucking every damn dick you come across.
@handful808 Your trying to paint me as a little fag like you. No diva was a stepping stone I really feel so sorry for you its a shame. Your the reason lmao was invented i bet. You talk a bunch of stuff but yet to sight any references or facts to back up your claims. i can show you many videos if i want of what Trish has done in history. The thing is if you don't like Trish i dont give a fuck you understand what im saying. i am friends with some ppl that have many other divas as there fav.
@handful808 You say your telling the truth but lol anyone with sense could see past you "hating" when someone gets very successful ppl like you get pissed. just because its not your fav diva. Thats the real problem. You can say whatever you want and do what ever you want but you will never be bale to find peace or be real because you can't stand ones success. Moolah was great bull was great. many divas worked hard.
@handful808 Moolah didn't get the champs because her looks or the past divas. It has nothing to do with looks its about if you have the company factor and you make the best crowd reaction. Lita and Trish tied on that. if Trish wasn't talented nor as good as Lita she wouldn't have gotten the crowd reaction. Its simple you are trying to make it look like your a WWE pro but you didn't even know this.If someone looks good it is not ther fault. Do you blame god for the way you look?
@handful808 Molly, jazz, and Victoria wasn't stepping stones for Trish. If they were they would never have won champions. All those divas won the champ more then a few times. They were part of a storyline. you can say Trish was a stepping stone for Lita and Mickie James. See you just want to attack a diva but not be fair on both sides. Every diva help each other thats the issue im trying to put out. Every diva helped another ones success its freaking Scripted. thats how it goes.
@handful808 If you knew anything about the WWE you would know one diva helps the other to success. Lita and Trish are the most successful divas in history. They literally helped each other. You can ask any former diva they will tell you that its a game where divas are there for each other. I don't get how you can even act so "defensive" and "rude" for a scripted wrestling. This conversation shouldn't of even progressed this far.
@handful808 You really need to be respectful to people and stop disrespecting ppl. I love to be fair on both sides. i don't hate any diva or attack one for there success. Why? Why should I hate or attack a diva that I don't even know personally. Also wwe is scripted its all fake so you are buying into all this shit and its not even real. LMFAO! You want to say your diva is the best or not. Being the best diva is totally opinionated. There is not one damn fact that proves any diva is the best.
@handful808 So you want to say oh this diva is not great or Trish is not talented. WWE is an athletic sport at the end of the day. For a diva to come in the wwe and couldn't fight and leave 7 times womans champ, 1 time hardcores champ, 3 times abbe of the year, and 2 times diva of the decade its a great accomplishment. I don't care if it was jazz, lit, or victoria that could have taken Trish's place. i would respect them and cheer them on. then move on.
@handful808 You think its okay to attack another diva when it hurts alot of people. Why can't you just cheer on your fav diva and keep it at that. Since wwe is all scripted and all. Thats how it should be a when ppl attack a diva i just laugh at them then feel sorry for them. " If only they knew it was fake oh they should know that". Its all company promotion but the one thing i wont dispute is the hardwork, damage, and push each and every damn diva in history have done. God bless them!
@DivasGameHouse how is me "attacking" trish stratus affecting ur life? i can say what i want just like u. am i paying ur bills? am i puttin clothes on ur back? and if u laugh at ppl and feel sorry 4 ppl when they attack her why u gettin so uptight? lmao who doesnt know wrestling is fake? and like i said trish stratus is overrated and was pushed just because of her looks. the other divas like molly holly,jazz,victoria and gail kim never got the opportunity trish got cuz they didnt look like her.
@handful808 I never said it did. Please make sense when you comment. I never said you couldn't have your own opinion. But if I see something wrong im gonna act on it. Simple. And lol I know im making more then enough money to handle myself I think you should worry about you. I fell sorry for ppl that attack any diva. your problem is clear its plain old jealousy.Many of the other divas were very successful including the ones before her. Lita if it wasn't for her injury might be where Trish was.
@handful808 You keep saying its because her looks and Lita got if not the same cheers and praise from the fans and she never acted upon her look. But you don't get it that whole look shit was passed upon in 1999. Why bring 1999 back up in 2011. Update your status. She was not pushed back then the divas that were eligible for champ were limited. this is why i say your not paying attention to history.
@handful808 If you feel like we can have this debate in IM where I can type more im tired of making message after message. I like a debate and I can handle myself. What I am saying is that if you clearly analyzed the divas history back in the days you would clearly see the reason why Trish had the golds she had. But its whether you wan't to know or not im not pushing you.
@DivasGameHouse if your tired of makin messages after messages just simply ignore. this is all entertainment but the wwe still can respect the real athletes who worked their asses off to get a spot in the wwe. not having them take a backseat to models molded into "wrestlers". this is the reason gail kim quit the wwe. trish stratus is no different than kelly kelly,eve torres,michelle mccool(who i love),sable and candice michelle. its what sells but its definitely not fair to the real athletes.
@handful808 Well with that message you said that was a statement I can agree with. Yes the other divas should get shine not just Trish. i think ppl just loved how Trish evolved. But I agree where is Jazz, ivory, Lita, Victoria, and so on. They need to be recognized too. But the thing is that there is a big difference in the way Trish was molded verses Kelly, Michelle had some prior training, and eve said she was studying Brazilian wrestling before the wwe.
@handful808 Lita is still being named one of the best but i think WWe doesn't promote her enough. Thats not why Gail quit she left because WWE was not paying her as equal and not giving her a shot. Bad as it was back then They gave all those divas fair wins and shots in the wwe. Even if they didn't win in Trish's era they got many shots and many fair matches.Gail left because she was not getting barely any matches and no title shots.
@handful808 Trish molded differently how many divas know take chair shots. Ladder bashes, slams through steel steps, kendo stick knocks, sledge hammer bash. how many divas now get slammed or finished by the male superstars. how many divas now can take a male finisher and break out the pin. how many divas now can fight the guys or bold enough to get in the ring with them. this is what separates Trish from the divas of today. thats all im saying in respect to you and others.
@DivasGameHouse lmao its all scripted isnt it? didnt u say that? so why are u talkin about trish taking guys finishers and gettin hit with chairs? when did trish stratus take a guy finisher and kick out? when did trish get hit with a ladder? dont overexaggerate to make trish sound all "special" cuz lita went tho way more stuff. kelly kelly defended edged world title so that means she is a really hard worker as well right (lmao)? maria got demolished by umaga so that means shes a hard worker? no!
@handful808 I did but I was acting through the eyes of a fan. i thought you caught up on that. well next time i guess ill say it. Batista bombed her in an inter gender match she kicked out. Knowinski big booted her that was his finisher back in 02 or 03 and she kicked out. Lita, triple H, and many other guys hit Trish with chairs. Victoria and molly hit Trish wit ladders especially in a street fight match. I don't please you are the one who cant sight facts lol.
@handful808 Lita did not after her injury the only diva to take the hits was Trish, and victoria. Sometimes molly and jazz. Ok maria taking one in with umaga that sustains the history of other divas being brutalized by guys for years thats a laughable joke. good job ( Fail) Kelly lol she was a joke they are trying to giver her that Lita and Trish history. And then what? the point is that you should give credit and move on. its so simple it doesn't take all this BS.
@handful808 the thing is which you failed to do is state facts. i stated facts and you still havent. all of what i said can be backed up by wwe history. Ive seen these events in fact i've been to some live. I don't care who the diva is the main fact is that though its scripted these divas do work hard. Remember they wrestle they don't sit still in the ring. Its still athletic. The moves are real. the way the match plays is fake.
@handful808 You sighted some things that really makes me wonder about your knowledge of the WWE. Ok Maria got beaten one time. Melina got beaten one time. There is a big difference in getting beaten one or two times then getting beaten by guys many times in history. Thats what you seem not to understand.Lita and Trish was attacked by guys more over then any other diva. Trish more because she played a heel alot. Heel women get attacked by guys more. Its ok to have your opinion.
@DivasGameHouse kiddo what u are saying is irrelevant. just because trish was getting attacked by guys that means she works hard? *in ur words* "u do kno its scripted right?" lol lita went thro way more stuff than trish did and thats a fact but im not goin even get into that. did trish do any indies work before comin 2 the wwe? no she didnt. like kelly kelly and former diva seach contestants trish was a model brought 2 the wwe cuz she looks good. lol those are facts. u need cant handle the truth
@DivasGameHouse kiddo what u are saying is irrelevant. just because trish was getting attacked by guys that means she works hard? in ur words! "u do kno its scripted right?" lol lita went thro way more stuff than trish did and thats a fact but im not goin even get into that. did trish do any indies work before comin 2 the wwe? no she didnt. like kelly kelly and former diva seach contestants trish was a model brought 2 the wwe cuz she looks good. lol those are facts. u need cant handle the truth.
I am no where near being a fan of Madusa ESPECIALLY after the Women's title incident on Nitro, however, I'm gonna give credit where credit is due and say Madusa happens to be one of the best female wrestlers of all time. Trish or any of today's girls has NOTHING on Madusa.
@HotBoy147 Trish, Lita, Victoria, and Jazz had done more than madusa, alundra, bull, and the other older woman wrestlers why? Because these divas learned from the divas of the past and progress. Im not disrespecting but im just saying that the bumps the divas took, slams buy guys, fighting males. hardcore matches, steel cage matches, street fight matches, and much more the older divas were not successful in or famous for.
@DivasGameHouse Women competitors like Bull Nakano, Sherri, Lei Lani Kai and Madusa can DESTROY women like Victoria, Lita and especially Trish with one hand. Please do not compare the classic WOMEN WRESTLERS with "Divas" lol, thanks. I do appreciate women like Michelle McCool (who I do feel is the best pure female in years) but I couldn't compare her to Madusa, no comparison at all.
@HotBoy147 ok first off different time frames mean different things. Destroy?? in a scripted wrestling really? lol lets be real they were athletes but they couldn't destroy Trish, Victoria, nor jazz, or Lita. Thats a fact. Madusa was great but nope thats a FAIL!! its all due to different time period. If divas of the hardcore era was in madusa and nakano's time period they would have adapted to much more realistic and great skills. Its call adapting.
@HotBoy147 Michelle McCool who botches alot of her moves really? ok this comment cant be taken seriously because McCool was diva that left because she couldn't handle the injuries that the other divas before sustained for years.But she is pure greatness right??? LMFAO! if thos woman wrestlers stayed around in 1998 they would have been called divas too so that was very uneducated to state. Divas are another word in wwe's book for woman. Like knockout are in TNA. Just a term thats all.
@DivasGameHouse Actually Michelle wrestled with a broken toe, hurt ribs, an injured leg and various other injuries so talk about what you know please. Michelle retired because she needed time off and wanted to spend time with her husband. And your a dumb ass if you actually believe Trish Stratus can go head on with a REAL WRESTLER like Madusa. Trish on her best day couldn't take Madusa.
Trish used to be a waste of money time and space for WWF then she actually started learning and MAN she had some incredible matches in 02-03. Madusa is a good wrestler. But give Trish credit for going a long way in a short period of time
@EternalMessiah Ok your judging on the fact one stratusfear was botched? Alundra botched a mny in her days. Its a fact the owner may be bias because she could have chosen the best of both woman but she showed a botched one vs a perfect one.
@EternalMessiah The owner may be bias because she showed a botched one vs a perfect one. why not choose the best of both woman. And you shouldn't judge its not fair if there is a botched one vs a good one. Plus Alundra botched many in her days.
If Trish was around during Madusa's days, Trish wouldn't last for two seconds. The only modern woman who could probably go pound for pound with Madusa is Michelle McCool.
HotBoy147 7 months ago
@HotBoy147 Michelle McCool???? LOL????? She sucks
jungle10ful 5 months ago
@jungle10ful Michelle has REAL athletic ability, she's taller (about the same height as Madusa) and a better wrestler than any of the modern women and that includes Trish who does the same 3 moves in every match.
HotBoy147 5 months ago
@HotBoy147 Those 3 moves is called SIGNATURE MOVES, something that Michelle knows NOTHING about considering the fact she changes her finisher every 3 seconds. And she's not better than ANY modern women because those modern day divas have Beth, Natalya, AJ, Melina and Mickie. (Trish retired a long time ago) lol
jungle10ful 5 months ago
@jungle10ful Youi're right-Michelle has an ARSENAL of moves so there's no need for her to use the same 3 moves in every match and Michelle doesn't BOTCH all of her moves like Trish. :-) And um Michelle has beaten all of the women you just named and that chick AJ is just a waste of space.
HotBoy147 5 months ago
@HotBoy147 Trish botch???? Lol. Your a idiot. Im done with you. She was botching when she was still learning but by 2003 she became way better than Michelle could ever dream of becoming. Victoria and Trish were pulling some 5STAR matches during their feud. Michelle was still doing botch chick kicks. Please.
jungle10ful 5 months ago
@jungle10ful Please my dick-I can't find a Trish Stratus match where she didn't botch. Take a look at WM 17 where she botched every move she did. If not for Jazz and Lita carrying that match-it would have been the worst match ever at a Wrestlemania thanks to Trish. Michelle is a REAL athlete and all of her feuds with women like Melina, Mickie James, Beth Phoenix and Natalya were FLAWLESS matches. Now I'm done with you-REAL TALK.
HotBoy147 5 months ago
@HotBoy147 wow, Lita was still green at the time how could she be carrying? LOL. Now Im done with you to.
jungle10ful 5 months ago
@jungle10ful Um Lita was NOT green at the time considering she was wrestling since '99 and that WM took place in 2002. Please learn history about the wrestlers before making foolish statements. Goodbye.
HotBoy147 5 months ago
@HotBoy147 So guessing that you know better than Molly Holly. Im done.
jungle10ful 5 months ago
@jungle10ful LOL what does Molly Holly have to do with this convo? You were talking about Lita being GREEN and now you bring Molly Holly into this? Maaaan sit it down because you're not making any sense to me LMAO.
HotBoy147 5 months ago
@HotBoy147 Its molly holly herself who said that Lita was green in the ring b4 the neck-surgery.
jungle10ful 5 months ago
@jungle10ful Who cares what Nora Greenwald thinks? I'm not even a fan of Lita and will always remember her over Molly Holly. Lita went on to become one of the most popular woman ever in the ring and a 4 time Women's champ-Molly had a shaved head and was wearing wigs to the ring for comedy relief. So who had the better career between the two?
You have yet to make a point to me so do me a favor and stop responding back because you're just making a fool out of yourself. Thanks.
HotBoy147 5 months ago
@HotBoy147 She was in that match. She didn't sell the fisherman buster correctly. But it happens some divas have stage freights even after doing a great epic match. There nerves get the best of them. Lita and Trish are one of the best. Please respect everyone here and stop attacking divas. There all scripted no matter how you roll the dice. So if its scripted should you even be attacking any of the divas? lol come on
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@HotBoy147 Trish did not botch lol. She did great in that match. Michelle is a great diva. She is good but not better. Michelle botched alot. Almost every diva botches it happens. But i watched that match you said Trish botches alot in and i don't see at one point she botched. If she did anymore people would have said she was over reacting.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@HotBoy147 Michelle is a botch queen sorry i analyze every match and her kicks are always off. The moves Trihs do are signature moves. Thats why some are done in every match. Michelle needs much more practice before she consider herself as good as the legend divas.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@HotBoy147 Woah what an insult to Madusa. Trish sustained more damage then any other diva. I think she could handle Madusa. Trish and Madusa would create another 5 star match. If you say Trish couldn't last with Madusa but Michelle can then you might as well say that kelly kelly is better then bull nakano.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
who was the 1st wrestler who created the SUPLEX ?
ok so now most wrestlers stole his move ? idiots ..!
mazyoon911 7 months ago
@mazyoon911 exactly lol lame asses need to move on or get stomped on these lames!!!
DivasGameHouse 2 months ago
alundra is better than trish. she was 1 time cruiserweight champion, and 4 times woman champion. remember it.
oooyyyful 9 months ago
@oooyyyful Trish was one time hardocre champ, 7 times womans champ, 3 times babe of the year and 3 times diva of the decade.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@oooyyyful and lets not forget every diva is scripted? so how is she better?? right my point FAIL!
DivasGameHouse 2 months ago
Spill that tea!
AppleTarts102 1 year ago
i think trish is a bit shorter then alundra thats why she uses the bottom rope
jdoonan 2 years ago 4
People are going to use other people's created moves. Bound to happen no matter what. All of you think Bret created the Sharpshooter don't ya? Well most of you anyways. But you are wrong..SO WRONG. Not invented by Bret :) So BASH ON HIM. But I doubt you will cause most of you are marks.
B1gB0yN0w 2 years ago
What did I do wrong? I am not going to take back what I said months ago.
Again, I did not criticize Madusa and I did not make her into Satan. I respect your opinion and those who like Madusa--I respect her as a wrestler; I respect the fact that she is very respectful of Sherri, Luna and especially Nakano--I have issues with her truthfulness and candor; and she was not as good as Lola Gonzalez either.
RPenta 2 years ago
WOW I realy thought that wa trish move
ALUNDRA BLAYZE should definatly be in the hall of fame
moorer1012 2 years ago 2
Wooow, I thought this was an original move for Trish, obviously not.
teamxtreme2000 2 years ago 3
Same here!
VisionOfPerfect1990 2 years ago
I know Madusa would love to get back into WWE good graces; and I suspect, being Madusa, she has her own motives obvious and some not; but the woman broke her azz in the ring--other than the Crush Gals, Jaguar Yokota and Bull Nakano herself who faced not only great American but also Mexican wrestlers Madusa faced the most divergent opponents and did well; I suspect even at her age Madusa would like to step into the ring with Torrie Wilson and Stacey one more time--
RPenta 2 years ago
I want to find a way to have many of the YouTubers who post women wrestling matches start to compile on the following topic: what moves did Trish Stratus steal from other women wrestlers--and without accreditation:
I have a YouTube friend who is a Lita smark who may be able to confirm the rumor that Trish stole a move from Lita and renamed it the Stratusfaction; here she stole a move from Madusa; and the move I call the face buster she stole from Bull Nakano.
RPenta 2 years ago
She dumped the womens title in the bin, and along with it, went her career. her own fault.
Daavidd4 2 years ago
I am not a Madusa fan; Bull Nakano yes, Madusa no, Trish no, and Lita, yes.
RPenta 2 years ago
@RPenta We see your a hater. And worst of your on every page saying or mumbling dumb ass shit. You claim you hate some divas and love some. And if it wasn't for the ones you hated the ones you love wouldn't even have a career. It takes two divas to make a good match. Talk about a walking, talking, lame ass.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
Amen, bro.
RPenta 2 years ago
@RPenta Hater!!!
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
Can you pleasestop ruining EVERY single madusa video? Really, I cant even listen to Madusas theme and scroll down to see what other people think about it without their being a 220 peragragh for RPenta expalining why Madusa is Satan.
Leave her alone
edicoolcows 2 years ago
I re-read all of my 220 paragraphs--please use spell check!-I did not criticize Madusa here; in fact I agreed with the people who said either that Trish stole the move or did not do it as well as Madusa.
Please, do not become a Madusa mark; although her other 4 fans can use some company.
RPenta 2 years ago
Didnt we make a deal?
I know that comment was 2 months ago but what I said goes for all of you 220 paragraph youve ever written, and no I wont use spellcheck! eye kan tak lik dis all dei!!! Oh and too late I am a "Madusa Mark" and proud of it!
I used to be just like you, a smart ass! till someone had to go dig in my ass, and teach me a lesson the hard way, just wait lil boy,
I actually have some decensy to respect peoples opinions! I never said anything bad about Reggie Bennet and Bull!!!!!
edicoolcows 2 years ago
@RPenta Again on another Trish page hating. I swear im gonna call your old ass out on every page i see you. Because ppl need to see how obsessed you are with Trish!!! No one stole shit. You just starting lame ass shit because you have no life.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
You will be happy to hear this: Madusa was a much better wrestler than Trish; Status is the most overrated women's wrestler of all time--yes, she ripped off Madusa's move.
RPenta 2 years ago
@RPenta I disagree that Trish is not overrated. She earned her accomplishments. But I do agree that Medusa should be recognized for her achievements and contributions to the Wrestling business. And she is a better in ring talent than Trish. And yes maybe that one move Trish did learn from Medusa. I would still like to see a dream match.
Paul8820 1 year ago
@RPenta Well a dream match would be Medusa vs Trish and it will never happen because Micelli will probably never return to WWE on decent or good terms. I would be really shocked. If I ever saw Medusa in WWE ring again.
Paul8820 1 year ago
Eric Bishoff cooks up this nasty idea about dropping the belt he gets a freaking job with Vinny years later! Madusa gets the phantom zone; and if it was not for Jim Ross mentioning how phenomenal Nakano was either on tv or his blog 90% of the fans in WWE would never have heard of her. By the way, my reseach has uncovered this bombshell in 2007 interview, Luna Vachon claims in 1996 or 1997 Linda McMahon was going to hire Maduse back to feud with Sable! Luna said she told Linda not to do it
RPenta 3 years ago
to compare Nakano to Trish and even Molly, Lita, and Chyna. I don't diss Trish; she has talent and worked hard and is beautiful but her fans go too far. Chyna was great but limited, Molly, Ivory, Jazz, and Jacqueline were really fine pro wresters and therefore wasted in WWE.
HotBoy: is there not some value to Nakano in HOF. The WWE treated her like crap in the stupid match in April, 1995 when she dropped the belt back to Madusa; Nakano's last WWE match.
RPenta 3 years ago
Madusa had a long an excellent career in wrestling; AWA, Japan, WWF, and WCW-she learned a lot in Japan including from Bull Nakano. Nakano-not Trish, Lita, Beth Phoenix, Molly Holly, or Chyna or Moolah was the greatest woman's wrestler to hold the title--repect to Sherri and Wendi Richter also. It is about f*****g time the fanboys and fangirls in WWE Universe rediscovered her and get this great star and nice person in the WWE Hall of Fame-so, how do we do that folks?
RPenta 3 years ago
I agree with you, Madusa was a major talent in wrestling. Even though her last few months in WCW were a waste and it wasn't her fault. But scumbag Vince McMahon would NEVER put her into the WWE Hall of Fame because of the infamous women's title in the trash segment on Nitro a few years back.
The WWE Hall of Fame doesn't have any real value to it anyway because just about everyone in it except Bret Hart is in the "Vince McMahon kiss my ass club".
HotBoy147 3 years ago
I am beginning a research project into the life and career of Bull Nakano so if anyone has any useful--yes, useful info to pass onto me I would appreciate it.
As a side project, I am trying to rally support to put Bull into WWE HOF; unlike many other inductees she does not need money from Vince but I figure:1) the ceremony if done well will be fantastic; 2)it will introduce Bull to a generation of fans who don't know of her; 3)it will put a damper (maybe) on the Trish insanity
RPenta 3 years ago
Alundra does it so much better
kingofthegames95 3 years ago 2
Inspirations...
xoBeautySparkzxo 3 years ago
Trish Stratus is good.
But Madusa aka Alundra was very tough back in her AWA/WCW days. I think the WWE should have kept her as Madusa. I didn't like the Alundra Blayze gimmik very much!
999xander999 3 years ago
yooo why trish gotta kick victoria right in the face!
flinstonesrule5 3 years ago
Alaundra Blaze was wayyy better than Trish stratus
mrmoney222 3 years ago 6
litas version of the springboard bulldog was better (in 2000). she used to run up the turnbuckle then bounce of the ropes....more realistic.
and and that showed were Trish took that hurrincanrana.
EdgeStingHBK 3 years ago 3
So now are you guys gonna say Trish is copying EVERYONE for punching? or kicking? or suplex? etc.
B1gB0yN0w 3 years ago 16
she does!
flinstonesrule5 3 years ago
yea not to mention her 6th title win was against some one who was injured most the match.only cuase lita injured her knee be cuase she made a misscaculation.and her fifth one was shouldve gone to lita.lita was the one who knocked gail out.trish pulled lita out of the ring and stole the pin.and if u look at it.lita tuaght the stratusfation to trish.so i think its really safe to say that trish pretty much owes everything she accomplished to lita.dont get me wronge she got real good in time.
biteme1988 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
omg she is a copier!!!!
aznboi2428 4 years ago
I think it's cool that she does the same move as Alundra because Alundra is an old wrestler. Cool.
schmk5 4 years ago 6
I'll give Trish some credit for winning the championship 7 times but her athletic ability just cant compare to most other champions. Jacqueline, Chyna, Alundra Blayze, Jazz, Lita, and of course Bull Nakano! WWE should expand their championships to other promotions if they know whats best for them
saibasabu 4 years ago 5
Agreed. Wow, 7 times champion. Who cares? Most of them were stolen victories anyways.
SuperGayBunny 3 years ago
beth phoenix and victoria all the way haaaaaaa. but in this comparison madusa far exceeds trish.
kefkaroth 4 years ago 9
We all know that WWE is all about entertaining, but it doesn't me that the moves should look "fake" too as well the storyline concept of entertainment wrestling. the difference of Alundra's and Trish's execution of that head scissors take down is that Alundra's is more realistic, the fluidity if her move is impeccable, as for Trish's, it really looks like a scripted move...
FoxxyVixxen 4 years ago 4
Come on Trish is not even close to a match to Madusa!!! Madusa is a wrestler that came from Japan. Trish is like some "diva".....Trish wouldn't last in the ring with Madusa.
WWE women's wrestling has become a joke.
jojoyoyo2006 4 years ago 5
Whats the point of this video? Are you trying to say Trish stole Madusa's move?
ShlongWayHung 4 years ago
no i wanted to know which people think is better alundra's or trish's
jdoonan 4 years ago
@ShlongWayHung
Yes, that's what I am saying--she stole the move and call's the the Stratus-something or else--Madusa Blazcelli would have made her pay for that.
RPenta 1 year ago
@ShlongWayHung yes she did steal alundra blayze move! are you mad because someone actually post it revealing it? fuck trish stratus alundra blayze is way better and a true talent.
handful808 9 months ago
@handful808 Every wrestler uses another wrestlers moves. There is no copyright on moves. Most ppl say Trish stole her move if anything Trish was using the move in respects of Alundra. Never thought of thay way? Trish is a great diva so is Alundra. So by you attacking someone you don't even know in real life doesn't make you look good.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse alundra blayze was never a diva. get your facts right. the word "diva" was used in 1996 and was popularized by sable in 1998. facts!
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 Yes I mean woman for Alundra and please don't be rude. And if alundra was still in WWE or at least stuck around the Lita era she would have been called a Diva. Diva holds a strong definition to it. Whether Alundra left before time she would have been called a diva if she stayed.So your attitude could be used else where. Not on this video page. Thank You
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse okay shut up! your annoying. alundra blayze over trish stratus anyday. alundra blayze was a real athlete trish stratus was just a puppet for vince mcmahon.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 You shut the hell up! Thats your opinion and so what?? All divas were athletes wrestling is an athletic sport you should know that. Lol anyways Trish Vince's puppet? Ok this shows your ignorance to wwe history. You really need to know how to speak to ppl. Trish done a lot i don't care who you are if you are fair you would at least acknowledge that. Trish and Lita have done much more then Alundra. i respect Alundra and Love her but I have to be honest at the end of the day.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse bitch divas like mickie james,lita and alundra blyaze done way more than trish did. trish stratus is an example why a lot of indies female wrestlers wont go to the wwe because u have eye candy sex symbols like trish stratus gettin the shine that the real hard working athletes deserve. divas like lita and mickie james showed fans that its not about looks its about hard work. lita and mickie james worked the indies 4 years somethin trish stratus never did. get your facts right.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 You dumb waste of life CUNT!!! Trish put away her sex appeal back in 1999 you need to jump back on the train its 2011 BITCH! Get on board or get your ass left behind. Lol indies don't choose if they come to wwe its wwe that chooses if they can come in the wwe. You need to get your damn facts strait. Many divas before her got there shine she was just a recent case in over exceeding with champ wins. Ppl like you just can't stand ones success so what you do? You hate!!
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 The one thing I will always do is give credit to where its due. Every diva worked hard they helped each other get to the top. Lita wouldn't be the Lita we knew without her storylines with Trish. Same for other divas. Mickie james botches alot in the WWE but she was wrestling for what 20 years. You need to give credit where its due and grow the fuck up. How the hell you holding a diva accountable for some shit back in 1999. We in the fucking 2011. Get on it or fall down. SIMPLE!
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 I never disrespected you first but I can see when someone can't come up with facts and cant stand there ground so what you do. try and say dumb shit thinking I will back off or walk away hell naw. I hold ppl accountable for what they say. you wanna say shit prove it!! Its sad that you have to take wwe like its real. Its a fucking scripted. Why you taking fake wrestling so damn serious lol.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 I can say Lita and trish are in the same boat but Mickie, and alundra did not do more then the attitude era divas. She was an awesome fighter but she was not know for fighting guys, hardcore matches, steel cage matches, street fight matches, ladder matches, battle of the sexes matches, female vs male matches. those are what Trish, Lita, Victoria, Jazz, and Jackie were known for. Thats what im simple saying.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse you say alundra blayze and mickie james didnt do much but u put jazz,jackie and victoria in it? your contradicting. victoria,jazz and even jackie aka jacqueline were all stepping stoles for trish stratus. lita was out with a neck injury so she isnt included. like sable back in the early attitude era trish stratus was the poster girl and was pushed based on looks. and still to today she is the most overrated wwe diva ever. its not working hard when she was shoved down out throats.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 Mickie james was overrated as well. She was in the the wwe for so little and accomplished Lita's 4 title reign. if mickie had stayed she would have been overrated.Trish was overrated how? Trish took the damage from the guys and did everything Lita did. The thing is that your saying she is overrated your saying she was a poster girl where is your facts or at least reasons. Jazz and Victoria wasn't stepping stones for Trish. Jazz was fighting way before.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 If it was on looks there were plenty of girls that was as pretty as Trish so why Trish? The thing is there was many components on why Trish was chosen. Remember Lita in the WWE's eyes is the second best diva in wrestling. So I think Lita has a great name with WWE. She worked hard im not gonna attack Trish or any diva. i know if im not in the ring doing what they do then who the hell am I to say they did not work hard or earned there spot.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Overrated is totally opinionated just like being the best diva is opinionated there is no facts to say any diva in history is the best. that's why when i her people say there diva is the bet I laugh at them and then ask where is your facts? its scripted so how can any diva be the best in my opinion every diva is the best in there own way. If lita wanted to leave before they was gonna give her her 5th title shot that's her choice.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse put two and two together. the proof is in the pudding. trish stratus is no different than kelly kelly,candice michelle or sable. she was eye candy and just another sex symbol in the wwe that made it hard for the real athletes who bust their asses and were passionate about wrestling. victoria and trish were both fitness models but why did victoria have to go through the process of training before coming to the wwe? doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 There is a big difference between kelly k and trish that def doesn't take a caveman to figure that out.Again we are in 2011 after 1999 placed the sex symbol appeal far behind her. She started dressing appropriately and getting physical. But the thing is she placed her sex appeal away before she won her champs. Just because she is pretty its not her fault. Why is it ppl cant give credit where its due. She wasn't like torrie or kelly doing live strip contests and dancing on guys.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 She happened to play a storyline which again was fake. She was just as passionate like any other diva she just played a storyline that had her dressed as a pin up doll. its called acting. She did it very well. thats the thing you need the full package to be a great womans champ. The factor, skills, the ability to sell moves,and create realistic drama with the storylines. Lita was very green when it came to storylines it wasn't till 2004 she started making her storylines look real
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Trish worked just as hard as any of the divas and deserve her shots. She did what kelly kelly and all those barbies couldn't do. Fight the men, 1 on 1 with men, battle of the sexes, hardcore matches, submission matches, ladder matches streetfight matches, and much more. She took major damage from the guys. That doesn't sound like a barbie, fitness model, or sex symbol to me. I just think its pure biasness sorry but thats the truth.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 You keep saying everything but the truth she worked her ass off and got physical. she made the most powerful evolution to a diva. one who came in as a beginner and picked up great skills. I just hate that because she is pretty ppl hate her. Its not her fault she is not God. She can't help that. Why else do you think these divas are so popular? they helped each other grow. Lita and trish made the best fued in history. If trish was so bad then ppl wouldn't acknowledge her.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse lmao how did trish stratus come in as a beginner when she wasnt even a "wrestler" at first? did i say i hate trishs stratus? lmao stop jumping to conclusions and stop gettin so defensive. you trish stratus fans kill me. when ppl say the truth about her u all feel everyone hates her. pull the panties out your asscrack. like i said the wwe used the more deserving and more talented divas like molly holly,victoria and jazz as a stepping stole for trish stratus thats the truth.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 Defensive lol your should be a comedian. Im a fan of every diva that worked hard lets get that straight first. And there is a difference when someone says the truth and when someone hates on another persons success and can't really say the truth. Im done with all this back and forth shit. You said something and i responded to it. you yet to state any facts its been like what my 8th comment and no damn facts. Lol maybe you should stop sucking every damn dick you come across.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Your trying to paint me as a little fag like you. No diva was a stepping stone I really feel so sorry for you its a shame. Your the reason lmao was invented i bet. You talk a bunch of stuff but yet to sight any references or facts to back up your claims. i can show you many videos if i want of what Trish has done in history. The thing is if you don't like Trish i dont give a fuck you understand what im saying. i am friends with some ppl that have many other divas as there fav.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 You say your telling the truth but lol anyone with sense could see past you "hating" when someone gets very successful ppl like you get pissed. just because its not your fav diva. Thats the real problem. You can say whatever you want and do what ever you want but you will never be bale to find peace or be real because you can't stand ones success. Moolah was great bull was great. many divas worked hard.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Moolah didn't get the champs because her looks or the past divas. It has nothing to do with looks its about if you have the company factor and you make the best crowd reaction. Lita and Trish tied on that. if Trish wasn't talented nor as good as Lita she wouldn't have gotten the crowd reaction. Its simple you are trying to make it look like your a WWE pro but you didn't even know this.If someone looks good it is not ther fault. Do you blame god for the way you look?
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Molly, jazz, and Victoria wasn't stepping stones for Trish. If they were they would never have won champions. All those divas won the champ more then a few times. They were part of a storyline. you can say Trish was a stepping stone for Lita and Mickie James. See you just want to attack a diva but not be fair on both sides. Every diva help each other thats the issue im trying to put out. Every diva helped another ones success its freaking Scripted. thats how it goes.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 If you knew anything about the WWE you would know one diva helps the other to success. Lita and Trish are the most successful divas in history. They literally helped each other. You can ask any former diva they will tell you that its a game where divas are there for each other. I don't get how you can even act so "defensive" and "rude" for a scripted wrestling. This conversation shouldn't of even progressed this far.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 You really need to be respectful to people and stop disrespecting ppl. I love to be fair on both sides. i don't hate any diva or attack one for there success. Why? Why should I hate or attack a diva that I don't even know personally. Also wwe is scripted its all fake so you are buying into all this shit and its not even real. LMFAO! You want to say your diva is the best or not. Being the best diva is totally opinionated. There is not one damn fact that proves any diva is the best.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 So you want to say oh this diva is not great or Trish is not talented. WWE is an athletic sport at the end of the day. For a diva to come in the wwe and couldn't fight and leave 7 times womans champ, 1 time hardcores champ, 3 times abbe of the year, and 2 times diva of the decade its a great accomplishment. I don't care if it was jazz, lit, or victoria that could have taken Trish's place. i would respect them and cheer them on. then move on.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 You think its okay to attack another diva when it hurts alot of people. Why can't you just cheer on your fav diva and keep it at that. Since wwe is all scripted and all. Thats how it should be a when ppl attack a diva i just laugh at them then feel sorry for them. " If only they knew it was fake oh they should know that". Its all company promotion but the one thing i wont dispute is the hardwork, damage, and push each and every damn diva in history have done. God bless them!
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse how is me "attacking" trish stratus affecting ur life? i can say what i want just like u. am i paying ur bills? am i puttin clothes on ur back? and if u laugh at ppl and feel sorry 4 ppl when they attack her why u gettin so uptight? lmao who doesnt know wrestling is fake? and like i said trish stratus is overrated and was pushed just because of her looks. the other divas like molly holly,jazz,victoria and gail kim never got the opportunity trish got cuz they didnt look like her.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 I never said it did. Please make sense when you comment. I never said you couldn't have your own opinion. But if I see something wrong im gonna act on it. Simple. And lol I know im making more then enough money to handle myself I think you should worry about you. I fell sorry for ppl that attack any diva. your problem is clear its plain old jealousy.Many of the other divas were very successful including the ones before her. Lita if it wasn't for her injury might be where Trish was.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 You keep saying its because her looks and Lita got if not the same cheers and praise from the fans and she never acted upon her look. But you don't get it that whole look shit was passed upon in 1999. Why bring 1999 back up in 2011. Update your status. She was not pushed back then the divas that were eligible for champ were limited. this is why i say your not paying attention to history.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 If you feel like we can have this debate in IM where I can type more im tired of making message after message. I like a debate and I can handle myself. What I am saying is that if you clearly analyzed the divas history back in the days you would clearly see the reason why Trish had the golds she had. But its whether you wan't to know or not im not pushing you.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse if your tired of makin messages after messages just simply ignore. this is all entertainment but the wwe still can respect the real athletes who worked their asses off to get a spot in the wwe. not having them take a backseat to models molded into "wrestlers". this is the reason gail kim quit the wwe. trish stratus is no different than kelly kelly,eve torres,michelle mccool(who i love),sable and candice michelle. its what sells but its definitely not fair to the real athletes.
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 Well with that message you said that was a statement I can agree with. Yes the other divas should get shine not just Trish. i think ppl just loved how Trish evolved. But I agree where is Jazz, ivory, Lita, Victoria, and so on. They need to be recognized too. But the thing is that there is a big difference in the way Trish was molded verses Kelly, Michelle had some prior training, and eve said she was studying Brazilian wrestling before the wwe.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Lita is still being named one of the best but i think WWe doesn't promote her enough. Thats not why Gail quit she left because WWE was not paying her as equal and not giving her a shot. Bad as it was back then They gave all those divas fair wins and shots in the wwe. Even if they didn't win in Trish's era they got many shots and many fair matches.Gail left because she was not getting barely any matches and no title shots.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Trish molded differently how many divas know take chair shots. Ladder bashes, slams through steel steps, kendo stick knocks, sledge hammer bash. how many divas now get slammed or finished by the male superstars. how many divas now can take a male finisher and break out the pin. how many divas now can fight the guys or bold enough to get in the ring with them. this is what separates Trish from the divas of today. thats all im saying in respect to you and others.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse lmao its all scripted isnt it? didnt u say that? so why are u talkin about trish taking guys finishers and gettin hit with chairs? when did trish stratus take a guy finisher and kick out? when did trish get hit with a ladder? dont overexaggerate to make trish sound all "special" cuz lita went tho way more stuff. kelly kelly defended edged world title so that means she is a really hard worker as well right (lmao)? maria got demolished by umaga so that means shes a hard worker? no!
handful808 4 months ago
@handful808 I did but I was acting through the eyes of a fan. i thought you caught up on that. well next time i guess ill say it. Batista bombed her in an inter gender match she kicked out. Knowinski big booted her that was his finisher back in 02 or 03 and she kicked out. Lita, triple H, and many other guys hit Trish with chairs. Victoria and molly hit Trish wit ladders especially in a street fight match. I don't please you are the one who cant sight facts lol.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 Lita did not after her injury the only diva to take the hits was Trish, and victoria. Sometimes molly and jazz. Ok maria taking one in with umaga that sustains the history of other divas being brutalized by guys for years thats a laughable joke. good job ( Fail) Kelly lol she was a joke they are trying to giver her that Lita and Trish history. And then what? the point is that you should give credit and move on. its so simple it doesn't take all this BS.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 the thing is which you failed to do is state facts. i stated facts and you still havent. all of what i said can be backed up by wwe history. Ive seen these events in fact i've been to some live. I don't care who the diva is the main fact is that though its scripted these divas do work hard. Remember they wrestle they don't sit still in the ring. Its still athletic. The moves are real. the way the match plays is fake.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@handful808 You sighted some things that really makes me wonder about your knowledge of the WWE. Ok Maria got beaten one time. Melina got beaten one time. There is a big difference in getting beaten one or two times then getting beaten by guys many times in history. Thats what you seem not to understand.Lita and Trish was attacked by guys more over then any other diva. Trish more because she played a heel alot. Heel women get attacked by guys more. Its ok to have your opinion.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse kiddo what u are saying is irrelevant. just because trish was getting attacked by guys that means she works hard? *in ur words* "u do kno its scripted right?" lol lita went thro way more stuff than trish did and thats a fact but im not goin even get into that. did trish do any indies work before comin 2 the wwe? no she didnt. like kelly kelly and former diva seach contestants trish was a model brought 2 the wwe cuz she looks good. lol those are facts. u need cant handle the truth
handful808 4 months ago
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@DivasGameHouse kiddo what u are saying is irrelevant. just because trish was getting attacked by guys that means she works hard? in ur words! "u do kno its scripted right?" lol lita went thro way more stuff than trish did and thats a fact but im not goin even get into that. did trish do any indies work before comin 2 the wwe? no she didnt. like kelly kelly and former diva seach contestants trish was a model brought 2 the wwe cuz she looks good. lol those are facts. u need cant handle the truth.
handful808 4 months ago
I am no where near being a fan of Madusa ESPECIALLY after the Women's title incident on Nitro, however, I'm gonna give credit where credit is due and say Madusa happens to be one of the best female wrestlers of all time. Trish or any of today's girls has NOTHING on Madusa.
HotBoy147 4 years ago
@HotBoy147 Trish, Lita, Victoria, and Jazz had done more than madusa, alundra, bull, and the other older woman wrestlers why? Because these divas learned from the divas of the past and progress. Im not disrespecting but im just saying that the bumps the divas took, slams buy guys, fighting males. hardcore matches, steel cage matches, street fight matches, and much more the older divas were not successful in or famous for.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@DivasGameHouse Women competitors like Bull Nakano, Sherri, Lei Lani Kai and Madusa can DESTROY women like Victoria, Lita and especially Trish with one hand. Please do not compare the classic WOMEN WRESTLERS with "Divas" lol, thanks. I do appreciate women like Michelle McCool (who I do feel is the best pure female in years) but I couldn't compare her to Madusa, no comparison at all.
HotBoy147 2 months ago
@HotBoy147 ok first off different time frames mean different things. Destroy?? in a scripted wrestling really? lol lets be real they were athletes but they couldn't destroy Trish, Victoria, nor jazz, or Lita. Thats a fact. Madusa was great but nope thats a FAIL!! its all due to different time period. If divas of the hardcore era was in madusa and nakano's time period they would have adapted to much more realistic and great skills. Its call adapting.
DivasGameHouse 2 months ago
@HotBoy147 Michelle McCool who botches alot of her moves really? ok this comment cant be taken seriously because McCool was diva that left because she couldn't handle the injuries that the other divas before sustained for years.But she is pure greatness right??? LMFAO! if thos woman wrestlers stayed around in 1998 they would have been called divas too so that was very uneducated to state. Divas are another word in wwe's book for woman. Like knockout are in TNA. Just a term thats all.
DivasGameHouse 2 months ago
@DivasGameHouse Actually Michelle wrestled with a broken toe, hurt ribs, an injured leg and various other injuries so talk about what you know please. Michelle retired because she needed time off and wanted to spend time with her husband. And your a dumb ass if you actually believe Trish Stratus can go head on with a REAL WRESTLER like Madusa. Trish on her best day couldn't take Madusa.
HotBoy147 1 month ago
stratusphere...
neilcaraher 4 years ago
trish is better!!
BabyGirlon7 4 years ago
no, she's not
TwistedSadness 3 years ago 6
TRISH IS SO MUCH BETTR!!
BabyGirlon7 3 years ago
I agree!
lazofh 3 years ago
stop hatin on Trish Everyone...I mean Madusa is good...But Trish Is Better!!
mickieishot06 4 years ago
^LOL, silly teenagers. Watch something from before 1999 before commenting on these type of things, eh?
xreddragonx 3 years ago 7
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wrestling is pathetic
ekyyM 4 years ago
The difference between Stratus and Blayze was Stratus had no prior Japanese experience and wasn't that great of a wrestler.
jasonsama 4 years ago 6
Yeah, I'm tired of all the people acting like Trish is God's gift to women's wrestling. She was average at best. Madusa would own her in the ring.
CujoOnAcid 4 years ago 3
Trish used to be a waste of money time and space for WWF then she actually started learning and MAN she had some incredible matches in 02-03. Madusa is a good wrestler. But give Trish credit for going a long way in a short period of time
Surreal469 4 years ago 6
what's your opinion on Madusa v. Gail Kim?
AysnBooTeeBandit 4 years ago 4
thatd be a killer match.
DegenerationX07 4 years ago 3
Madusa's better, but Gail Kim is great. She is a great luchador, and submissionist, But Madsua is divine
TwistedSadness 3 years ago 13
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u stupid!!
BabyGirlon7 3 years ago
no, in fact you are. Watch the matches, you will see, you dumbass.
TwistedSadness 3 years ago 4
Madusa's was better, I agree. Trish botched hers.
EternalMessiah 4 years ago 6
@EternalMessiah Ok your judging on the fact one stratusfear was botched? Alundra botched a mny in her days. Its a fact the owner may be bias because she could have chosen the best of both woman but she showed a botched one vs a perfect one.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
@EternalMessiah The owner may be bias because she showed a botched one vs a perfect one. why not choose the best of both woman. And you shouldn't judge its not fair if there is a botched one vs a good one. Plus Alundra botched many in her days.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
Madusa is better...Trish has stolen her style!!
fanofmadusa 4 years ago 7
@fanofmadusa No one stole anything. Trish used the move in respect f Madusa. Plus moves are not copyrighted either.
DivasGameHouse 4 months ago
Madusa's was better. I guess because she was taller. I miss when the females could wrestle.
SHAKHIR2 4 years ago 9
can you post the alundra match please? thanks :)
fermla2 4 years ago 2
i added the the match of bertha vs alundra
jdoonan 4 years ago
can u please please add the summerslam 1994 match between bull nakano and alundra blyaze
boof2uluv 4 years ago
can you post this match between blayze and faye?
alittlegoesalongway 4 years ago 2
sure no problem
jdoonan 4 years ago
THANK YOU!!! :)
alittlegoesalongway 4 years ago
love them both but madusa's was better
mywrestling 4 years ago 5
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Both were poor to be honest. A dumb kind of move anyway.
shonshu2 4 years ago