thank you what ever ur name is sweetheart im so glad that finally a christian on you tube has got a brain................this rapture shit was really beginning to annoy me......keep it simple stupid christians............if you deluded beliefs defy the laws of physics then its a load of bullshit
Satan was cast out, and can't find a way back into heaven. Jesus can't save us if we have the mark of the beast. If people have the mark , and taken into heaven , satan will find a way back into the kingdom by tracking a persons location using RFID or ( mark of the beast)!
This does danger to those who don't read the Scriptures. There is no rapture, no one is going anywhere, they are all gonna be right here when the great tribulation of the antichrist comes about. And is extremely dangerous when a rapture believing church takes a passage violently out of context to support their false doctrine. CHRISTIAN BEWARE! For the antichrist comes first, then the true Messiah will come. Put on the full armor of Christ and prepare for spiritual battle.
This lady is right in a lot that she is saying, but John Darby didn't create the false rapture doctrine. He definitely popularized it, but he didn't create it. A lady named Margaret MacDonald in the year 1830 had "visions" and "revelations" of this so called rapture that was to happen. Well what else happened in 1830? Joseph Smith had visions that would later become mormonism as well as a one lady having visions of the virgin Mary saying to use holy water, and to wear graven images etc...
I have asked the pretrib rupturites to give scriptures on the supposed biblical context of "seven years tribulation" they say i ssupposedly in the word yet not one anywhere has baan able to because it's a heresy like the P.T.R philosophy is.
The usual text is the reference to Rev.12, where the dragon goes after "the rest of [the woman's] offspring" - that's the tribulation period. I think the 7 years are from Daniel. The whole thing is put together as a patchwork of texts from the Daniel, Revelation, the gospels, Ezekiel 38-39.
Dispensationalism, in all its versions, is Sci-Fi for Fundamentalists, IMO
The problem with people like Rossing is that they only sound like they know what they're talking about when they attack a system they disagree with yet know little about. Dr Kevin Zuber has responded and debunked her in: Exposing Barbara R. Rossing’s The Rapture Exposed and A Problem or Two with Ben Witherington’s The Problem with Evangelical Theology. Do a search on his name at tyndale.edu
Hello Barbara. Not only does the Bible not use the word 'rapture' but it doesn't use the words 'second coming' either. The events are implied. The 'rapture' is the word used to describe the event where Christ 'opens up the heavens' and snatches His church up. He doesn't physically come back to the earth at that moment. He comes back 'with His church' at the end of the last 2520 days. This is His 'second coming'.
Luke 21:28......."And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." I doesn't say 'rapture' but many verses imply the concept.
Pre-trib rapture right here..."Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, UNTIL THE INDIGNATION BE OVERPAST. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity.....Isaiah 26:19-21
Of course the word 'rapture' isn't in the Bible. Rapture is the word used to describe what is going to happen. 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17....."For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." continued.....
if the rapture is false, then explaine why in the book of jude chapter 1 vers 14-15 says
" behold the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to excute judgment upon all, you can read the rest: when and how did those saints get to heaven?
answer is they were raptured out ! read revelation chapter 5 vers 8-10 !
@2010YOURLIFE Hello friend. I agree 100 percent. You can read some of the comments I made here which are direct Biblical quotes which don't say 'rapture' of course, but they imply the event without doubt.
i dont get wat u're saying. are u saying jesus isnt coming back at all or are u saying theres no such thing as pretribulation rapture?i dont believe in the rapture, i believe jesus is coming back once and when that happens, the whole world is destroyed, so their's no third coming
@tebuny1 Hello friend. Not only does the Bible not use the word 'rapture' but it doesn't use the words 'second coming' either. The events are implied. The 'rapture' is the word used to describe the event where Christ 'opens up the heavens' and snatches His church up. (1 Thessalonians 4:16) He doesn't physically come back to the earth at that moment. He comes back 'with His church' at the end of the last 2520 days. This is His 'second coming'. Jude 1:14, 15.
@Musicman81Indy Wrong! we dont know the day or hour so therefore we dont know how bad itll get on earth before he comes so we must prepare for times coming while on the watch. One thing is certain, God has not appointed us to wrath, we wont be here for the 7 year tribulation but we dont know how bad it will get before then. signs of the times. when we see these things come to pass we are told to look up for our redemption draweth nigh. Maranatha!
And again you need to have Gods Word in your possession otherwise you will get doctrines incorrect. If its not KJV then its Satan's Bible (modern versions)
and no the word "rapture" is not found in the bible but at the same time doesnt do any harm or altering to scripture. Trinity isnt used in bible its Godhead, Holy spirit isnt either its Holy ghost. names that dont do any harm to Gods Word. so to use the wording as an argument is stupid. but what do you expect from a liberal? false gospel false doctrine. you can refute the rapture all you want but soon and very soon im meeting the Lord in the air, 7yrs of Gods wrath is for the world not believer.
Talk about blindness. First its not a fear scenario, the rapture is our blessed hope. Barb rossing along with many others are just blinded of the devil. Lord Himself shall descend from heaven...dead in christ shall rise..we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Jesus in book of luke gave stern warning to christians saying dont get caught in cares of this life so that day (rapture) will not come upon you unawares.
The Rapture story made up by John Darby [ Ex- Catholic Priest ] [ Changed to protestant preacher to spread the lie of the Rapture story ] was the story teller for the Catholic ch. to put fear in the people to get them to buy the Purgatory view of the Catholic ch. . Purgatory would not fly unless there was fear from going to hell ! Millions come to the Catholic Ch. for the ideal if you was not good enough to get into heaven you could still go by working out your Salvation after you died ! more
@turtle4aire how son we forget and continue to preach a falsehood Darby was an Angelica Priest (protestant) he was never a catholic, Funny how fundies hatred for Catholics separates you from the truth too bad you will find yourself in hell as revaluations says all Liars will go to hell. By the way why would catholic preach something they don't believe, Have fun in hell
Compare the occurrences in the context of the end times, ie: Armageddon with average everyday pre-end times life, working in the field, grinding at the mill, normal everyday jobs.
Now that we, us here within these nearing end times, understand what was meant and look up, why denude the faith of this modern day understanding of the revelation of that which must occur before God can pour out his wrath upon the earth, something he promised he would not do to believers?
Pre trib believers have been so busy being ready for Jesus, but because of the pre trib lie, they haven't been preparing for what they will have to endure during the tribulation. Satan has deceived them all into thinking they will get out early, but suddenly the tribulation will come upon them, and they will be totally unprepared. They need to be educated about what is coming because they will have to go through it.
When she says she is speaking against the rapture, she makes it sound like there is NO rapture at all. What she SHOULD be saying is, she doesn't believe in a PRE TRIB rapture. The rapture, (or gathering together) IS a biblical concept. We WILL be caught up together with Jesus. Only difference is, it will happen AFTER the tribulation and not before. So she is giving people the wrong impression here.
WHAT!! Schools are allowed to teach that nonsense?? Well I am now strongly of the opinion that schools should be forced to remain secular in essence, until the students reach the age of consent. That way, they will have the sensibilities and powers of analysis that will enable them to discover the truth.
The word "Rapture" is a Latin word, "rapiemur", in the "Vulgate" version of the bible, for "being caught". Rossing's reasoning would be correct if all of the scriptures she alluded to refer to the same event, i.e. the "second "coming of Christ. But, they don't. Paul is the ONLY ONE speaking of BELIEVERS being "caught up" in the air; all of the other writers ONLY speak of UNBELIEVERS being "removed", from the earthly kingdom. One event is vertical, "caught up", the other horizontal, "removed".
Look at these middle class, luxury living, cosy fireplace romantics.... nice white pants... cross legged well spoken preened pollished... nice big fireplace,, mansion dwelling.... leather chair sitting.... nicely pressed new clothes.... BIG red candle boasters....loveley lamp... shiny floor...nice painting...
But I agree with what she is saying. JUST DON"T SKITE YOUR WEALTH LIKE YOU ARE DOING
the rapture is not something to be scared of but to be always ready and alert as the bible says to be. The apostle paul said to watch and be sober in 1thes. 5 in rev chapter 3 jesus urges the church to be watchful and waiting not to be sitting and relaxing which is what this lady seems to be saying.If you are a christian you should be joyful that jesus is coming or coming at any minute who wouldn't be, as a pre trib believer i was never afarid but always eagerly awaiting the trumpt call.
i have to say that this is faulty information that this lady is giving firstly the rapture is a biblical word it derived from the greek word harpadzo which when translated by jerome in the latin vulgate we get the word rapiemur which we get the english word rapture and all it means is to catch up. Second of all this notion that the rapture was invented in the 19 centuary is so false.
Ps 50:3, Ps 68:1-2, Isaiah 64:1-3, 2 Thess 1:8-9 2:8-9, 2 Peter 3:10, Eph 1:10, Matthew 13:37-42 ,Matthew 24:27-31. Mattew 3:12 plainly describes the angels are with him AKA the "fan" thus with the other verses fully show the proposterous lies of john hagie hal lindsey and other jesuits that absolutely impossible for the catching away is anything but a one time permanent event. There is no 7 year tribulation. Yet has anyone been able to copy paste it where it says that philosophy. 2 Jn 8-11
This woman is saying GOD will not do what he said he will, she is infact taking away from the word.
Also you are to compare scripture with scripture! duh!!!! THIS WOMAN IS CALLING GOD A LIAR!
Also, no, there will not be a physical bloody battle, but there will be cursing GOD and knashing of teeth because those left behind will see the saved being caught up and the will know they were never saved,the will be destroyed, there will be no salvation from 5-21-11 to 10-21-11.
The Bible and Jesus is erroneous beyond common measure. Jesus was wrong, so are you. His promise to return soon is way overdue, as he promised that even his disciples would see him coming in the clouds. Look it is a kooky religion that hijacked general human morality and the social imperative for order. Now go pick up a good book, like "The God Delusion" and start learning Truths...otherwise you are a LIAR! You know your beliefs are hogwash.
It doesn't matter if the word "Rapture" isn't in the bible, it just means caught up, and that dayn is on MAY 21 2011.
THESE FALSE TEACHERS WILL SOON SEE THEY WERE NEVER SAVED.
The great catching up (RAPTURE)will happen, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE BEING CAUGHT UP, THERE WILL BE A GREAT SEPERATION OF THE SAVED AND UNSAVED, AND THAT INCLUDES CHILDEREN, ADULTS, ELDERLY, IT WILL HAPPEN.
Rossing has reacted to abuses of rapture doctrine, ignored church history whereby it was preached by ireneaus in the2nd or so century, and has dpone the very thing she accuses rapture believers of doing, taking aspects of it OUT OF CONTEXT,
that rapture is not a biblical word does not mean it is not in the Bible. the greek word is HARPAZDO, to seize or snatch, latin rapture. if she rejects rapture on linguistic grounds she has to reject the trinity as well.
she also fails to distingush between pre trib rapture and post trib. there is no 7 year period between rapture and second comng.
i hold that rapture is the same thing as the FIRST resurrection.
and even if rapture is real to precipitate it by warfare is SIN
As an atheist, I'm so pleased to find a channel where Christians are being told a much more moderate and pleasant view about their religion - and especially opposing the fundies, whose prophecies could be self-fulfilling if we're not careful.
To take an obvious example - the last USA government considered the environment a waste of time because the rapture was about to happen ...
The trinity (the actual word) is never mentioned in the Bible, are you saying that that is false? Just because something isn't named doesn't mean it isn't going to happen. 1 Thess. gives a perfect description of the rapture. People don't need to be scared of the rapture, people need to be ready, Jesus is coming as "a thief in the night" A thief doesn't announce his coming, he comes secretly and silently. The 'Appearing' on the other hand is a different story, thats when Jesus will come as king!
It seems that her problem is with premillenialism/chiliasm as a whole, even though it is a well attested position in the early church and things seem to be leaning that way historically. Rossing personally dislikes the idea of violence in the Middle East preceding the return of Christ, and she worries about the doctrine being utilized politically, even though postmillenialism has already been. She honestly can't fathom God using violence to bring about His intentions? Has she read the Bible?
FOR THE WRATH OF GOD IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN, WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
1 COR. 2:9,10 WHAT IS OF THE SPIRIT SPIRIT IT IS! NOT FOOLISH AS THIS IGNORANT WOMAN. sHE'S LIKE THAT COZ SHE IS UGLY AND HER PARENTS ABUSED HER AND NOW SHE HATES EVERYONE.
@Serglish Your response, the insults, the name calling, and such foul language is why so many people have lost respect for Christians, and the church. Instead of responses like that, if you don't agree with what's being said, you should pray for them, not bash them and condemn them, it's not your place to condemn anyone, so in response, I'll pray for you. To others, this person does not represent all Christians, certainly not myself.
FOR THE WRATH OF GOD IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN, WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
1 COR. 2:9,10 WHAT IS OF THE SPIRIT SPIRIT IT IS! NOT FOOLISH AS THIS IGNORANT WOMAN. sHE'S LIKE THAT COZ SHE IS UGLY AND HER PARENTS ABUSED HER AND NOW SHE HATES EVERYONE.
The Bible also says that in the last days many will listen to doctrines and fables of Demons! This mother fucker woman is lesbian and you can see her face. aRE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE YOU OR THE BIBLE BITCH? YOU'LL DIE AND YOU WONT MATTERED. BUT THE WORD OF GOD HAS BEEN AND IT IS AND WILL BE THE WORD OF GOD.
IT IS EASY FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE THAT - BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE GIRL YOU WERE ABUSE AND YOUR PARENTS DIDNT LOVE YOU SO NOW AS AN ADULT YOU LIVE ATTACKING THE TRUTH
I Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. You can not add or take away from the words of the bible- Revelation 22. This is going to happen. This is not an add-on MassLiberal1, it is in the bible, it just does not have the name rapture.
Good to know how the rapture all began. It appears biblical, but it is not. If you have a chance view a few of my videos. They break down how it is unbiblical using the scriptures.
The bible is the Word of God. In the book of Jeremiah God instructed for them to write down what is taking place and what will take place. These situations are not "goofy" as she puts it. Beware of WOLVES in sheep's clothing.
@Skyheartstar777 The "rapture" is an add-on and a goofy one at that. Those that promote the heresy of the "rapture" are the wolves in sheep clothing that you should beware of. God bless.
Did this woman miss this passage? : Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version) 18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
This reminds me of the bible code in which supposedly the bible predicted things after they happened. And a priest who was a scientist destroyed that crazy notion.
Your in error, the Gospel of LUKE tells us this...[34] I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. [35] Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.". Hell be taking his chossen ones, his elect.
YOu can debunk the whole bible with ease so why would this be suprising. religion as a whole is false. Wake up ignorant people none of the stuff is true.
I think that this video is incomplete in trying to "debunk" the rapture. All she does is cite scripture that proponents of the rapture uses and gives her opinion. She doesn't cite any scripture to support her claim or explain in detail why it is not credible.
You know .. this gets old.. Shows you how many NEVER NEVER NEVER search. Well what MAN in about 870ad.. wrote Hymns .. also write about? Yeah see shows us back THEN being CAUGHT UP BEFORE trib. But take your eyes off this. See be ready TODAY! Be like they were in the word. They were waiting for Him then. So be READY today. Watch and PRAY. Keep your eyes on HIM. For when He DOES COME. You will be READY! They seem to NOT preach THIS.
There were many new revisionist / end time religions and ideas that came from the 19th century. Jehovah Witness, Mormonism to name a few. The inventors of these religions fled from the original gospel.
Hey, "livingthequestions", it might help to have this video seen more if you'd spell Christianity correctly in your tags. Thanks for uploading this, by the way.
Very good point. This video should go viral and correcting the spelling and adding more tags like Fox, Glenn beck, Pastor John Hagee, Christians United for Israel, etc etc would help get it seen by the brainwashed masses who need to be woken up out of their ridiculous and dangerous "Armageddon" death cult.
Naskeleng, I almost forgot I watched this video. Five months later, and the uploader hasn't fixed (what should be important to what I assume a believer) the quick fix. Perhaps, it is by "intelligent design" that this is the case. Why would something so blatantly obvious, as Barbara deemed "goofy", to ANY half-wit want to go viral? Even if it did, it would be met with the usual plugging of the ears and yammering to drown out any residual axioms.
I always thought the Rapture theology developed because Protestantism is about money, comfort, and respectability, NOT suffering or martyrdom or self-denial. And they see Jesus as Santa Claus to give them stuff, not somebody to follow and take up the Cross in His footsteps.
Who says anything about children "under the age of 12"? Who holds that as their official position? The teaching in Scripture about the age of accountability is obvious: promised land, for example.
What do you do with "like a thief in the night" ... isn't that "scary" to non-believers? Shouldn't you just cut that out of your theology as well while you are at it?
As a confirmed atheist, I am sick and tired of my mother constantly telling me: "You'd better get right with god 'cause if you don't (insert tribulation scenario here) and I won't be here to help you". I had to deal with that emotion abuse for 10 years.
This video would be helpful for fundamentalist recovery groups (and ex-chiristians, those converting to Judaism, etc.), I think. It's sad for young children to be taught this, it's a form of emotional child abuse, really. I remember being scared I'd be "left behind" but when I got older I realized it was all a load of hoey. Jesus is always "coming back soon" but never DOES show up.
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The Lord God has opened a way of mercy for those who repent and turn to his son, the Lord Christ Jesus. So there is no reason "if" one listens and follows the words of the Lord Jesus.
John 5:24" Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life".
Revelation 17:14 "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful".
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The book of Revelation is a prophecy of furture events, whcih predict the last great battle on the earth, when all the armies of the world are brought to the valley of Jehosaphat in Joel 3.2 (Hebrew text, 4): "I will gather together all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Josaphat: and I will plead with them there for my people, and for my inheritance Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations" Cont..
Yes true, the word isn't in the bible, I agree. The lie from satan of a pretrib takeaway is absolutely nothing short of Another misdirection from the lie of the papacy "pergatory" all over again. The book of Acts 14:22 and gospel of John 17:15 put the fools game of the pretrib heresy of a rupture to its grave once and for all! AMEN...
Dr. Rossing is right in every way. If you study the HISTORY of when this "rapture stuff" started, it began in the 1890's. It is based upon a theology called DISPENSATIONALISM. If you want to believe in the rapture, you have to accept all the doctrines of Dispensationalism too. This is the doctrine of groups such as Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses as well. WAKE UP and do not be so Biblically ILLITERATE about these things!
... and now it's being promoted by the right-wing fundamentalists, violent people, who are doing everything they can to bring about war in the Middle East because they think it's up to them to bring about the Rapture ... there is nothing more arrogant, self-serving, Biblically incorrect, and downright DANGEROUS as this! God bless Dr. Rossing!
The rapture comes from the original language text and it says to be caught up.Ok so what do you want to call it, call it what you want but the bible says it will happen.And the only people that fear are those who their conscious lets them know they are not right with God. To those who are living right before God is a great to know we are leaving this world and not staying for the New World Order.But since you do work for the education system your either oblivious or working for them.I see you :)
If there was a rupture WHO would the devil make war with then? Why does 1 thess 2:8 say the enemy gets incinerated at Jesus' appearence. So, how then can rupture be true? Noboby leave till he shows as per Matt 3:12 (the reaping angels),13:38-39. What about 2 Pet 3:10, Isa 64:11 66:15, Ps 50:3, Ps 68:2-3?Plainly says when he shows up the One time this place gets destroyed Period! So, rupture heresy is just that. The rupture theology has a major logistical problem.
1 Thessalonians 4v"16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words." Who cares whether or not someone calls it the rapture; either way it will happen
I agree, more folks need to see this video. I reiterate what I've said over and over-we are IN the beginning of the tribulations. Ask yourself--what IF the rapture doesn't come--where will you stand? Will you denounce Christ for not fulfilling what you consider a promise (which He didn't promise at all) or will you remain faithful-giving your life for Him? Some will hold to this theory until it is too late--some will prepare themselves for an alternative scenario. I am ready either way.
I agree. Also, people need to understand that Jesus will only come back once, at the very end. People who think He's coming back twice are most likely going to be deceived when the Antichrist comes and tells everyone the he is Jesus.
see it again, Of course the 2nd coming has always been believed in ,Allot of the "end of days beliefs" pertaining to Armageddon come from the Second Great Awakening period in the 1800's.
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no one who is truly saved should even worry about the rapture in fact they should be look forward to it and if they are scared i would say they need to be saved.
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excuse the ignorance but explain please. I can't wait until the rapture because I know what comes next with my soul. the thing we should be more worried about is getting people saved so that they might also get to be with God and not have to suffer
FREE- You dont know if they are christians anyone can pose as one God allows it. They dont want you to know about rapture so they can blame it on aliens IMHO.
thank you what ever ur name is sweetheart im so glad that finally a christian on you tube has got a brain................this rapture shit was really beginning to annoy me......keep it simple stupid christians............if you deluded beliefs defy the laws of physics then its a load of bullshit
hilariousbollywood 7 months ago
Satan was cast out, and can't find a way back into heaven. Jesus can't save us if we have the mark of the beast. If people have the mark , and taken into heaven , satan will find a way back into the kingdom by tracking a persons location using RFID or ( mark of the beast)!
V0013103 8 months ago
Thank God for smart, intelligent People like Dr. Barbara Rossing.
TeeDog63 8 months ago
Santa Christ, save me!
guadalupes3rdmix 8 months ago
This does danger to those who don't read the Scriptures. There is no rapture, no one is going anywhere, they are all gonna be right here when the great tribulation of the antichrist comes about. And is extremely dangerous when a rapture believing church takes a passage violently out of context to support their false doctrine. CHRISTIAN BEWARE! For the antichrist comes first, then the true Messiah will come. Put on the full armor of Christ and prepare for spiritual battle.
underground0331 9 months ago
This lady is right in a lot that she is saying, but John Darby didn't create the false rapture doctrine. He definitely popularized it, but he didn't create it. A lady named Margaret MacDonald in the year 1830 had "visions" and "revelations" of this so called rapture that was to happen. Well what else happened in 1830? Joseph Smith had visions that would later become mormonism as well as a one lady having visions of the virgin Mary saying to use holy water, and to wear graven images etc...
underground0331 9 months ago
I have asked the pretrib rupturites to give scriptures on the supposed biblical context of "seven years tribulation" they say i ssupposedly in the word yet not one anywhere has baan able to because it's a heresy like the P.T.R philosophy is.
zobcity01 11 months ago
@zobcity01
The usual text is the reference to Rev.12, where the dragon goes after "the rest of [the woman's] offspring" - that's the tribulation period. I think the 7 years are from Daniel. The whole thing is put together as a patchwork of texts from the Daniel, Revelation, the gospels, Ezekiel 38-39.
Dispensationalism, in all its versions, is Sci-Fi for Fundamentalists, IMO
5355vbxjbj76rvn 9 months ago 2
The problem with people like Rossing is that they only sound like they know what they're talking about when they attack a system they disagree with yet know little about. Dr Kevin Zuber has responded and debunked her in: Exposing Barbara R. Rossing’s The Rapture Exposed and A Problem or Two with Ben Witherington’s The Problem with Evangelical Theology. Do a search on his name at tyndale.edu
macsprinter 1 year ago
Hello Barbara. Not only does the Bible not use the word 'rapture' but it doesn't use the words 'second coming' either. The events are implied. The 'rapture' is the word used to describe the event where Christ 'opens up the heavens' and snatches His church up. He doesn't physically come back to the earth at that moment. He comes back 'with His church' at the end of the last 2520 days. This is His 'second coming'.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
Luke 21:28......."And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." I doesn't say 'rapture' but many verses imply the concept.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
Pre-trib rapture right here..."Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, UNTIL THE INDIGNATION BE OVERPAST. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity.....Isaiah 26:19-21
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
Of course the word 'rapture' isn't in the Bible. Rapture is the word used to describe what is going to happen. 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17....."For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." continued.....
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
if the rapture is false, then explaine why in the book of jude chapter 1 vers 14-15 says
" behold the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to excute judgment upon all, you can read the rest: when and how did those saints get to heaven?
answer is they were raptured out ! read revelation chapter 5 vers 8-10 !
2010YOURLIFE 1 year ago
@2010YOURLIFE Hello friend. I agree 100 percent. You can read some of the comments I made here which are direct Biblical quotes which don't say 'rapture' of course, but they imply the event without doubt.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@2010YOURLIFE The rapture is false because the bible is false, christianity is false. It's all a bunch of shit -- all of it.
Godlesspanther 1 year ago
I never knew that the Lutherans believed in the Christ, let alone the Bible. I cant wait for the sequel.
gerty335 1 year ago
They look like Theists lol
anythingnew 1 year ago
i dont get wat u're saying. are u saying jesus isnt coming back at all or are u saying theres no such thing as pretribulation rapture?i dont believe in the rapture, i believe jesus is coming back once and when that happens, the whole world is destroyed, so their's no third coming
tebuny1 1 year ago
@tebuny1 Hello friend. Not only does the Bible not use the word 'rapture' but it doesn't use the words 'second coming' either. The events are implied. The 'rapture' is the word used to describe the event where Christ 'opens up the heavens' and snatches His church up. (1 Thessalonians 4:16) He doesn't physically come back to the earth at that moment. He comes back 'with His church' at the end of the last 2520 days. This is His 'second coming'. Jude 1:14, 15.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
@Musicman81Indy Wrong! we dont know the day or hour so therefore we dont know how bad itll get on earth before he comes so we must prepare for times coming while on the watch. One thing is certain, God has not appointed us to wrath, we wont be here for the 7 year tribulation but we dont know how bad it will get before then. signs of the times. when we see these things come to pass we are told to look up for our redemption draweth nigh. Maranatha!
TheKJVberean 1 year ago
And again you need to have Gods Word in your possession otherwise you will get doctrines incorrect. If its not KJV then its Satan's Bible (modern versions)
TheKJVberean 1 year ago
and no the word "rapture" is not found in the bible but at the same time doesnt do any harm or altering to scripture. Trinity isnt used in bible its Godhead, Holy spirit isnt either its Holy ghost. names that dont do any harm to Gods Word. so to use the wording as an argument is stupid. but what do you expect from a liberal? false gospel false doctrine. you can refute the rapture all you want but soon and very soon im meeting the Lord in the air, 7yrs of Gods wrath is for the world not believer.
TheKJVberean 1 year ago
Talk about blindness. First its not a fear scenario, the rapture is our blessed hope. Barb rossing along with many others are just blinded of the devil. Lord Himself shall descend from heaven...dead in christ shall rise..we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Jesus in book of luke gave stern warning to christians saying dont get caught in cares of this life so that day (rapture) will not come upon you unawares.
TheKJVberean 1 year ago
The rapture theory is just ridiculous and makes Christianity seem like a joke.
coffinperson 1 year ago
The Rapture story made up by John Darby [ Ex- Catholic Priest ] [ Changed to protestant preacher to spread the lie of the Rapture story ] was the story teller for the Catholic ch. to put fear in the people to get them to buy the Purgatory view of the Catholic ch. . Purgatory would not fly unless there was fear from going to hell ! Millions come to the Catholic Ch. for the ideal if you was not good enough to get into heaven you could still go by working out your Salvation after you died ! more
turtle4aire 1 year ago
@turtle4aire how son we forget and continue to preach a falsehood Darby was an Angelica Priest (protestant) he was never a catholic, Funny how fundies hatred for Catholics separates you from the truth too bad you will find yourself in hell as revaluations says all Liars will go to hell. By the way why would catholic preach something they don't believe, Have fun in hell
martlut 1 year ago
Compare the occurrences in the context of the end times, ie: Armageddon with average everyday pre-end times life, working in the field, grinding at the mill, normal everyday jobs.
Now that we, us here within these nearing end times, understand what was meant and look up, why denude the faith of this modern day understanding of the revelation of that which must occur before God can pour out his wrath upon the earth, something he promised he would not do to believers?
Just more new-think denial
Delivered0ne 1 year ago
Of course, "the rapture" is just part of the christian fairytale, but so are virgin births and resurrections.
a0eoj 1 year ago
Pre trib believers have been so busy being ready for Jesus, but because of the pre trib lie, they haven't been preparing for what they will have to endure during the tribulation. Satan has deceived them all into thinking they will get out early, but suddenly the tribulation will come upon them, and they will be totally unprepared. They need to be educated about what is coming because they will have to go through it.
Musicman81Indy 1 year ago
When she says she is speaking against the rapture, she makes it sound like there is NO rapture at all. What she SHOULD be saying is, she doesn't believe in a PRE TRIB rapture. The rapture, (or gathering together) IS a biblical concept. We WILL be caught up together with Jesus. Only difference is, it will happen AFTER the tribulation and not before. So she is giving people the wrong impression here.
Musicman81Indy 1 year ago
WHAT!! Schools are allowed to teach that nonsense?? Well I am now strongly of the opinion that schools should be forced to remain secular in essence, until the students reach the age of consent. That way, they will have the sensibilities and powers of analysis that will enable them to discover the truth.
wordreet 1 year ago
The word "Rapture" is a Latin word, "rapiemur", in the "Vulgate" version of the bible, for "being caught". Rossing's reasoning would be correct if all of the scriptures she alluded to refer to the same event, i.e. the "second "coming of Christ. But, they don't. Paul is the ONLY ONE speaking of BELIEVERS being "caught up" in the air; all of the other writers ONLY speak of UNBELIEVERS being "removed", from the earthly kingdom. One event is vertical, "caught up", the other horizontal, "removed".
JONAH222NCSGAZ 1 year ago
Look at these middle class, luxury living, cosy fireplace romantics.... nice white pants... cross legged well spoken preened pollished... nice big fireplace,, mansion dwelling.... leather chair sitting.... nicely pressed new clothes.... BIG red candle boasters....loveley lamp... shiny floor...nice painting...
But I agree with what she is saying. JUST DON"T SKITE YOUR WEALTH LIKE YOU ARE DOING
davfritz 1 year ago
@livingthequestions:
Excellent & clear presentation - so thanks very much for the video :)
5355vbxjbj76rvn 1 year ago
the rapture is not something to be scared of but to be always ready and alert as the bible says to be. The apostle paul said to watch and be sober in 1thes. 5 in rev chapter 3 jesus urges the church to be watchful and waiting not to be sitting and relaxing which is what this lady seems to be saying.If you are a christian you should be joyful that jesus is coming or coming at any minute who wouldn't be, as a pre trib believer i was never afarid but always eagerly awaiting the trumpt call.
bibleknight 1 year ago
i have to say that this is faulty information that this lady is giving firstly the rapture is a biblical word it derived from the greek word harpadzo which when translated by jerome in the latin vulgate we get the word rapiemur which we get the english word rapture and all it means is to catch up. Second of all this notion that the rapture was invented in the 19 centuary is so false.
bibleknight 1 year ago
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Ps 50:3, Ps 68:1-2, Isaiah 64:1-3, 2 Thess 1:8-9 2:8-9, 2 Peter 3:10, Eph 1:10, Matthew 13:37-42 ,Matthew 24:27-31. Mattew 3:12 plainly describes the angels are with him AKA the "fan" thus with the other verses fully show the proposterous lies of john hagie hal lindsey and other jesuits that absolutely impossible for the catching away is anything but a one time permanent event. There is no 7 year tribulation. Yet has anyone been able to copy paste it where it says that philosophy. 2 Jn 8-11
zobcity01 1 year ago
This woman is saying GOD will not do what he said he will, she is infact taking away from the word.
Also you are to compare scripture with scripture! duh!!!! THIS WOMAN IS CALLING GOD A LIAR!
Also, no, there will not be a physical bloody battle, but there will be cursing GOD and knashing of teeth because those left behind will see the saved being caught up and the will know they were never saved,the will be destroyed, there will be no salvation from 5-21-11 to 10-21-11.
makeme708 1 year ago
@makeme708
The Bible and Jesus is erroneous beyond common measure. Jesus was wrong, so are you. His promise to return soon is way overdue, as he promised that even his disciples would see him coming in the clouds. Look it is a kooky religion that hijacked general human morality and the social imperative for order. Now go pick up a good book, like "The God Delusion" and start learning Truths...otherwise you are a LIAR! You know your beliefs are hogwash.
combatives 1 year ago
It doesn't matter if the word "Rapture" isn't in the bible, it just means caught up, and that dayn is on MAY 21 2011.
THESE FALSE TEACHERS WILL SOON SEE THEY WERE NEVER SAVED.
The great catching up (RAPTURE)will happen, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE BEING CAUGHT UP, THERE WILL BE A GREAT SEPERATION OF THE SAVED AND UNSAVED, AND THAT INCLUDES CHILDEREN, ADULTS, ELDERLY, IT WILL HAPPEN.
makeme708 1 year ago
there is one verse which says to hasten the second coming of christ. how? to preach the gospel. NOT by fomenting war.
Rossing has propounded straw man fallacy.
a two part coming of christ is NOT part of a biblical use of rapture (I thess 4:17), but in arguing that it is, THIS is straw man.
She never knew tha abuse does not invalidate proper use.
this is sloppy thinking!!!!
rapture doctrine was not to terrify but comfort, look at the context of the passage in I thess
Strefanash 1 year ago
Rossing has reacted to abuses of rapture doctrine, ignored church history whereby it was preached by ireneaus in the2nd or so century, and has dpone the very thing she accuses rapture believers of doing, taking aspects of it OUT OF CONTEXT,
this woman, if a scholar should know better.
FOR SHAME
Strefanash 1 year ago
that rapture is not a biblical word does not mean it is not in the Bible. the greek word is HARPAZDO, to seize or snatch, latin rapture. if she rejects rapture on linguistic grounds she has to reject the trinity as well.
she also fails to distingush between pre trib rapture and post trib. there is no 7 year period between rapture and second comng.
i hold that rapture is the same thing as the FIRST resurrection.
and even if rapture is real to precipitate it by warfare is SIN
Strefanash 1 year ago
Matt 16:28 says "the Kingdom" should already be here.
k0smon 1 year ago
Thank .. erm .. fuck!
As an atheist, I'm so pleased to find a channel where Christians are being told a much more moderate and pleasant view about their religion - and especially opposing the fundies, whose prophecies could be self-fulfilling if we're not careful.
To take an obvious example - the last USA government considered the environment a waste of time because the rapture was about to happen ...
jazzx251 1 year ago
The trinity (the actual word) is never mentioned in the Bible, are you saying that that is false? Just because something isn't named doesn't mean it isn't going to happen. 1 Thess. gives a perfect description of the rapture. People don't need to be scared of the rapture, people need to be ready, Jesus is coming as "a thief in the night" A thief doesn't announce his coming, he comes secretly and silently. The 'Appearing' on the other hand is a different story, thats when Jesus will come as king!
UberTrophy 1 year ago
It seems that her problem is with premillenialism/chiliasm as a whole, even though it is a well attested position in the early church and things seem to be leaning that way historically. Rossing personally dislikes the idea of violence in the Middle East preceding the return of Christ, and she worries about the doctrine being utilized politically, even though postmillenialism has already been. She honestly can't fathom God using violence to bring about His intentions? Has she read the Bible?
ElasticGiraffe 1 year ago
FOR THE WRATH OF GOD IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN, WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
1 COR. 2:9,10 WHAT IS OF THE SPIRIT SPIRIT IT IS! NOT FOOLISH AS THIS IGNORANT WOMAN. sHE'S LIKE THAT COZ SHE IS UGLY AND HER PARENTS ABUSED HER AND NOW SHE HATES EVERYONE.
Serglish 1 year ago
@Serglish Your response, the insults, the name calling, and such foul language is why so many people have lost respect for Christians, and the church. Instead of responses like that, if you don't agree with what's being said, you should pray for them, not bash them and condemn them, it's not your place to condemn anyone, so in response, I'll pray for you. To others, this person does not represent all Christians, certainly not myself.
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FOR THE WRATH OF GOD IS REVEALED FROM HEAVEN AGAINST ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN, WHO HOLD THE TRUTH IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
1 COR. 2:9,10 WHAT IS OF THE SPIRIT SPIRIT IT IS! NOT FOOLISH AS THIS IGNORANT WOMAN. sHE'S LIKE THAT COZ SHE IS UGLY AND HER PARENTS ABUSED HER AND NOW SHE HATES EVERYONE.
Serglish 1 year ago
The Bible also says that in the last days many will listen to doctrines and fables of Demons! This mother fucker woman is lesbian and you can see her face. aRE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE YOU OR THE BIBLE BITCH? YOU'LL DIE AND YOU WONT MATTERED. BUT THE WORD OF GOD HAS BEEN AND IT IS AND WILL BE THE WORD OF GOD.
IT IS EASY FOR IDIOTS LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE THAT - BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE GIRL YOU WERE ABUSE AND YOUR PARENTS DIDNT LOVE YOU SO NOW AS AN ADULT YOU LIVE ATTACKING THE TRUTH
Serglish 1 year ago
The bible is bull shit! Think for your self and stop thinking your puppet master is comming back for you. It's never going to happen!
xaviervonrottie 1 year ago
@xaviervonrottie FUCK YOU HAHAHAHAHAHA
Serglish 1 year ago
@Serglish How Christian of you. ^_^
xaviervonrottie 1 year ago
I Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. You can not add or take away from the words of the bible- Revelation 22. This is going to happen. This is not an add-on MassLiberal1, it is in the bible, it just does not have the name rapture.
Skyheartstar777 1 year ago
What, I wonder is Your "Biblical Time-line"?
sunergos7 1 year ago
Pastor Rossing's book was superb. I can't recommend it enough.
jamesjeffreypaul 1 year ago
Good to know how the rapture all began. It appears biblical, but it is not. If you have a chance view a few of my videos. They break down how it is unbiblical using the scriptures.
raptureornot 1 year ago
The bible is the Word of God. In the book of Jeremiah God instructed for them to write down what is taking place and what will take place. These situations are not "goofy" as she puts it. Beware of WOLVES in sheep's clothing.
Skyheartstar777 1 year ago
@Skyheartstar777 The "rapture" is an add-on and a goofy one at that. Those that promote the heresy of the "rapture" are the wolves in sheep clothing that you should beware of. God bless.
MassLiberal1 1 year ago
Did this woman miss this passage? : Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version) 18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Skyheartstar777 1 year ago
the masses want the lie my friend.
why do you think TBN, joel olstein and rick warrens PDL,and left behind movie is so wildy popular??
the jesuits are simply doing their job.
See 1 Cor 2 entire chapter shed some light on a few things.
Planet earth is on TILT...
zobcity01 1 year ago
This reminds me of the bible code in which supposedly the bible predicted things after they happened. And a priest who was a scientist destroyed that crazy notion.
questionsamson 1 year ago
Your in error, the Gospel of LUKE tells us this...[34] I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. [35] Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.". Hell be taking his chossen ones, his elect.
HedeenJeff 1 year ago
YOu can debunk the whole bible with ease so why would this be suprising. religion as a whole is false. Wake up ignorant people none of the stuff is true.
lespauls61 1 year ago
I think that this video is incomplete in trying to "debunk" the rapture. All she does is cite scripture that proponents of the rapture uses and gives her opinion. She doesn't cite any scripture to support her claim or explain in detail why it is not credible.
Ashelton56 1 year ago
You know .. this gets old.. Shows you how many NEVER NEVER NEVER search. Well what MAN in about 870ad.. wrote Hymns .. also write about? Yeah see shows us back THEN being CAUGHT UP BEFORE trib. But take your eyes off this. See be ready TODAY! Be like they were in the word. They were waiting for Him then. So be READY today. Watch and PRAY. Keep your eyes on HIM. For when He DOES COME. You will be READY! They seem to NOT preach THIS.
Dosblade 1 year ago
There were many new revisionist / end time religions and ideas that came from the 19th century. Jehovah Witness, Mormonism to name a few. The inventors of these religions fled from the original gospel.
awolLDSasap 1 year ago
@awolLDSasap All religion including christianity is man made. There is NO PROOF that any of them are real.
lespauls61 1 year ago
Thank goodness some Christians have been able to see through the entire Rapture sham.
jamesjeffreypaul 2 years ago 9
Hey, "livingthequestions", it might help to have this video seen more if you'd spell Christianity correctly in your tags. Thanks for uploading this, by the way.
superwolf76 2 years ago
Very good point. This video should go viral and correcting the spelling and adding more tags like Fox, Glenn beck, Pastor John Hagee, Christians United for Israel, etc etc would help get it seen by the brainwashed masses who need to be woken up out of their ridiculous and dangerous "Armageddon" death cult.
Naskeleng 2 years ago 4
Naskeleng, I almost forgot I watched this video. Five months later, and the uploader hasn't fixed (what should be important to what I assume a believer) the quick fix. Perhaps, it is by "intelligent design" that this is the case. Why would something so blatantly obvious, as Barbara deemed "goofy", to ANY half-wit want to go viral? Even if it did, it would be met with the usual plugging of the ears and yammering to drown out any residual axioms.
superwolf76 2 years ago
@superwolf76 thanks for catching the typo -- sorry we didn't catch your comment until now!
livingthequestions 1 year ago
@Naskeleng thanks for the suggestion -- done.
livingthequestions 1 year ago
@livingthequestions Very good I like it alot debunk the pre trib theory which is man made doctrine...................................
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xena1973 1 year ago
I always thought the Rapture theology developed because Protestantism is about money, comfort, and respectability, NOT suffering or martyrdom or self-denial. And they see Jesus as Santa Claus to give them stuff, not somebody to follow and take up the Cross in His footsteps.
MsLadydaisy 2 years ago 5
She really knows her stuff. Check out her book called "The rapture exposed." I just started it today and it's very good. It'll make you think.
VidViewer333 2 years ago 6
What is the character of YOUR God?
aikido7 2 years ago
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most of your points in your what you think
you expose Barbarra, but I can give you verses that completely God doesn't have
a passion in this earth as you love world
Mizkal 2 years ago
you make absolutely no sense at all.
Dkon101 2 years ago
Who says anything about children "under the age of 12"? Who holds that as their official position? The teaching in Scripture about the age of accountability is obvious: promised land, for example.
NewNuma 2 years ago
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How is it fear if you are born again? It is part of the Great Hope. I look forward to seeing Jesus...are you scared to see Him?
NewNuma 2 years ago
What do you do with "like a thief in the night" ... isn't that "scary" to non-believers? Shouldn't you just cut that out of your theology as well while you are at it?
NewNuma 2 years ago
As a confirmed atheist, I am sick and tired of my mother constantly telling me: "You'd better get right with god 'cause if you don't (insert tribulation scenario here) and I won't be here to help you". I had to deal with that emotion abuse for 10 years.
phantomspellchecker 2 years ago 8
I like that bumper sticker that says, "When the Rapture comes, can I have your car?"
brainbid 2 years ago 6
This video would be helpful for fundamentalist recovery groups (and ex-chiristians, those converting to Judaism, etc.), I think. It's sad for young children to be taught this, it's a form of emotional child abuse, really. I remember being scared I'd be "left behind" but when I got older I realized it was all a load of hoey. Jesus is always "coming back soon" but never DOES show up.
brainbid 2 years ago 3
THANK YOU! This rapture combined with US politics is incredibly dangerous.
Mams31383 2 years ago 23
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So there is no reason to fear or be afraid, "if" one listens and follows, and acts upon the words of the Lord Jesus.
DocHoliday1882 2 years ago
But be sure of one thing "GOD" will judge this world and it's guilty inhabitants, for their, lust, greed, killings and evil unrepented actions.
"For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7
DocHoliday1882 2 years ago
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The Lord God has opened a way of mercy for those who repent and turn to his son, the Lord Christ Jesus. So there is no reason "if" one listens and follows the words of the Lord Jesus.
John 5:24" Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life".
DocHoliday1882 2 years ago
Revelation 17:14 "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful".
DocHoliday1882 2 years ago
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The book of Revelation is a prophecy of furture events, whcih predict the last great battle on the earth, when all the armies of the world are brought to the valley of Jehosaphat in Joel 3.2 (Hebrew text, 4): "I will gather together all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Josaphat: and I will plead with them there for my people, and for my inheritance Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations" Cont..
DocHoliday1882 2 years ago
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The 1890 BS thats a lie. Im pulling out my hair this is a weak argument. The Darby BS line oh geeez.
freecounselingonline 3 years ago
you mean the documented fact bs
lovecraftfan311 2 years ago
"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night
popopopoooooooooyteh 3 years ago
Keep reading buddy, it explains what that means.
cornerstone111 3 years ago
Refreshing. Thanks for posting.
TedMichaelMorgan 3 years ago 8
Yes true, the word isn't in the bible, I agree. The lie from satan of a pretrib takeaway is absolutely nothing short of Another misdirection from the lie of the papacy "pergatory" all over again. The book of Acts 14:22 and gospel of John 17:15 put the fools game of the pretrib heresy of a rupture to its grave once and for all! AMEN...
robwiley01 3 years ago
there will be a gathering after tribultion. we will be here until then . after that its time for war. where are the real soldiers?
terence718 3 years ago
Dr. Rossing is right in every way. If you study the HISTORY of when this "rapture stuff" started, it began in the 1890's. It is based upon a theology called DISPENSATIONALISM. If you want to believe in the rapture, you have to accept all the doctrines of Dispensationalism too. This is the doctrine of groups such as Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah Witnesses as well. WAKE UP and do not be so Biblically ILLITERATE about these things!
janjello 3 years ago 6
... and now it's being promoted by the right-wing fundamentalists, violent people, who are doing everything they can to bring about war in the Middle East because they think it's up to them to bring about the Rapture ... there is nothing more arrogant, self-serving, Biblically incorrect, and downright DANGEROUS as this! God bless Dr. Rossing!
shariys1 3 years ago 23
@shariys1 Yep. The so called theology of Christian dominionism comes out of this absurd idea.
macnutz 1 year ago
The rapture comes from the original language text and it says to be caught up.Ok so what do you want to call it, call it what you want but the bible says it will happen.And the only people that fear are those who their conscious lets them know they are not right with God. To those who are living right before God is a great to know we are leaving this world and not staying for the New World Order.But since you do work for the education system your either oblivious or working for them.I see you :)
notleftbehind 3 years ago
If there was a rupture WHO would the devil make war with then? Why does 1 thess 2:8 say the enemy gets incinerated at Jesus' appearence. So, how then can rupture be true? Noboby leave till he shows as per Matt 3:12 (the reaping angels),13:38-39. What about 2 Pet 3:10, Isa 64:11 66:15, Ps 50:3, Ps 68:2-3?Plainly says when he shows up the One time this place gets destroyed Period! So, rupture heresy is just that. The rupture theology has a major logistical problem.
robwiley01 3 years ago
The word for RAPTURE is LATIN in origin, not GREEK! It is NOT IN THE BIBLE. PERIOD.
janjello 3 years ago 4
1 Thessalonians 4v"16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words." Who cares whether or not someone calls it the rapture; either way it will happen
davemakesawave 3 years ago
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ridiculous she should read the Bible and I really do mean that.
xbrakx 3 years ago
More people need to know about this channel. It nice to see other Chritians who actully study there own religon, are open minded and make sences.
TheKingOfImmortality 3 years ago 7
I agree, more folks need to see this video. I reiterate what I've said over and over-we are IN the beginning of the tribulations. Ask yourself--what IF the rapture doesn't come--where will you stand? Will you denounce Christ for not fulfilling what you consider a promise (which He didn't promise at all) or will you remain faithful-giving your life for Him? Some will hold to this theory until it is too late--some will prepare themselves for an alternative scenario. I am ready either way.
BrynnanL 3 years ago 5
I agree. Also, people need to understand that Jesus will only come back once, at the very end. People who think He's coming back twice are most likely going to be deceived when the Antichrist comes and tells everyone the he is Jesus.
rachaelegy 3 years ago
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The rapture was taught hundreds of years before the time shes refering to. Typical U tube BS. You can look it up...
freecounselingonline 3 years ago
Uh, can you like give one example?
ferlinghett1 3 years ago 2
see it again, Of course the 2nd coming has always been believed in ,Allot of the "end of days beliefs" pertaining to Armageddon come from the Second Great Awakening period in the 1800's.
Jizuschrist 3 years ago
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no one who is truly saved should even worry about the rapture in fact they should be look forward to it and if they are scared i would say they need to be saved.
xbrakx 3 years ago
"In fact they should look forward to it...."
This sounds more Gnostic than Christian.
ferlinghett1 3 years ago
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excuse the ignorance but explain please. I can't wait until the rapture because I know what comes next with my soul. the thing we should be more worried about is getting people saved so that they might also get to be with God and not have to suffer
xbrakx 3 years ago
I'm glad Christians are saying this.
FreePrometheus 3 years ago 8
FREE- You dont know if they are christians anyone can pose as one God allows it. They dont want you to know about rapture so they can blame it on aliens IMHO.
freecounselingonline 3 years ago
Love the statement just as the Bible says even satan is transformed into an angel of light.
xbrakx 3 years ago
more people need to see this vid
illusionist1977 3 years ago 8