we the americans need mexicans/latinos to be here... for example, who ever is filming this video? would you like to work at the fields getting all those food vegetables or fruits you eat or whites eat, are you going to work to please whites? im pretty sure you wont last a week up in the fields you'll be talking to yourself "I now understand that we need mexicans and because they do jobs that we can't.. ok now STOP THE RACISM AND START THINKING WELL OF WHAT ARE YOU DOIING.. thank you
Ahahaha poor white american who is filming this video ok.. well first of all, yeah your right.you have the right of free of expression BUT you dont have the right to be MOLESTING people like that.. i would say that was so derespectful of you white guy who ever is filming thsi SHIT. COMPRENDE? lol.. well, honestly she did not do anything wrong by grabbing your camera she just felt insulted by the way you were been racist to her... people like you are so ignorants and direspectful..
Man, I cannot wait till Obama is out of the White House. I want to see the Federal government force the immigration laws and get this hag spic out of the country.
americans are white rats but finally rats, hahahaha they enjoy living from social services, they have no jobs, thats why they are on the strees waveing flags to feel they do something.
I really wonder why people that have already broken the law by entering this country illegally think that they have rights that US Citizens don't The illegals have already demonstrated that they don't value our laws & don't intend to abide them. Yes, this country was founded by immigrants & I have no problem w/ anyone that wishes to migrarte here legally BUT Illegals have no rights they're protected under no laws, only by bleeding hearts.
Youre nothing but a fucking coward bully, picking on the most economically disadvantaged people in this society. Jim Crow laws were repealed for a REASON. No one is a second-class citizen, regardless of what you've heard. And when you're ready to get off the streets and pushing people around, try to debate me on an intellectual level.
@erik4727 Non-citizens are human beings of course, but human rights don't extend to immunity from immigration laws. It's the CITIZENS of a country that get to decide what laws they want to enforce, and a given country, any country, has the right to enforce its own laws. Mexico readily deports illegals entering from Guatemala, and citizens of Mexico have every right to keep them out. Why can't the same be true in the USA?
@eier So hold on a second, so are you railing against Mexico or defending them now all of a sudden? You like Mexico but not Mexicans....I guess that's what people mean when they say they like America but not Americans..at least I can understand that. But again, what is this obsession with comparing is to other countries? Aren't we supposed to be better than them? If you like Mexico's immigration etiquette (which, sidebar, has been reformed only recently) why not move there?
@erik4727 I'm not defending Mexicans who crossed over, although the way their government treats illegal immigrants to Mexico (i.e. deportation) makes more sense than how the US government treats its border problem (i.e. turns a blind eye to the whole thing pretty much). The Mexican government is very corrupt, and I would rather ordinary Mexicans stand up and demand their rights from that government than surreptitiously migrate en masse to my country. Poder para el pueblo! Si se puede!
@eier I'm sorry the only thing that I'm getting from that is "I don't want them here"And sorry bud,that's just not gonna fly as a valid argument. The only government that is surreptitiously robbing basic human rights is the US government who SUPPORTS this kind of foul rape of a people. Why do you think we've spent well over 8 trillion dollars on our illegal wars, instead of focusing it on our neighbors to the South. Because they care about as much as you do.
@erik4727 I'd be fine with them here if they all came on student visas and took other legal avenues to get here, but you're right: I don't want illegal immigrants here, if that's what you mean by "them". If the US Government supports this "foul rape of a people", as you allege, why does it provide so many services for people with no documentation (free healthcare, WIC, welfare, I could go on...)? We spent all that money on wars because corporations and AIPAC are given far too much leeway...
@erik4727 ...to influence our congresspeople. Giving financial support to Mexico (meaning to the Mexican government) would be just as wasteful from a monetary standpoint because we'd be feeding the already staggering corruption there. We need to end the drug war (by legalizing marijuana, and at least decriminalizing cocaine) so that the cartels have competition from legitimate drug dealers to deal with, and we need our businesses to invest in Mexico. Mexicans must demand change from their gov
@eier I never said give them financial support, I said redirect those resources to our neighbors to whom we owe half this country too, okay!? People can't ask for change if they can't tell where it starts, that's where we come in. If whites were put in the same fucking situation, they would be jjust as clueless, but never fear the United States with it's so-called non-preferential treatment would be right at their door slamming down the cartels and corrupt govt (whom we back by the by) .
@erik4727 You never answered my question concerning the alleged "foul rape of a people" by the US Government. How can you say (actually--imply) that Mexicans wouldn't know what to do to remedy the situation? They are experiencing the injustice first-hand, so they should know what's up more than we do! That to me indicates that you view Mexicans as some naive society of half-wits! Oh, and just so you know, our government is no angel either. I hope that now that the Cold War has been over...
@erik4727 ...the CIA hasn't been doing deals with the cartels, all while they help turn former tourist towns like Juarez into police states. In a way, I can empathize with some Mexicans coming here as refugees from the violence, and in a place like Juarez, I'd probably be a-ok with them coming in--papers or no papers. But most Mexicans aren't fleeing violence; they come for the opportunity to build a better life, albeit at the expense of programs and institutions erected to help citizens.
@eier They're still escaping for better conditions,no matter which way you want to slice it, and in accordance to the geneva conventions(every person has the right to provide sustenance)I don't see how it violates any human laws.If anything we're doing the violating. Baseless wanton violating at that.Again, if the US gave a damn we wouldnt be spending trillions on failed,illegal wars,we would actually STOP this "war on drugs" (aka) war on dark skinned people and attack the problem at the source.
@erik4727 So these people have a right to cross an international border and live in a foreign country without regard to that nation's laws? Would you have a right to cross the border into Canada and then live there illegally, or is there something special about people crossing into the US from Mexico? I'm as mad about the oil wars overseas and drug wars in our own back yard as you are, believe me; but how does any of that give people crossing the border illegally the right to live here?
@eier and no, if you bothered to watch the video, you would see how the CIA has incessantly been opressing minority communities especially during times of civil rights.
@eier addendum: you're falling into the same dangerous trap retards like this man are falling into. this false notion that all they do here is "derk our jobs" and bankrupt our social services, because this has been constantly proven false.They give more than they'll ever get.PERIOD.Lets not go there no what bothers me is this: if you have this illusion that all these people whom according to you just recently crossed the border took your job, what does that say about the kind of person you are?
@erik4727 I don't think they're taking jobs from Americans; part of the problem is the American mindset that some jobs are beneath us. I wish we were more like the Japanese--they don't import foreign labor even though their laborers do the same jobs in Japan as many illegal immigrants do here. Apart from the jobs issue, which from your standpoint is a straw man against me, there IS evidence of negative effects on social services from illegal immigration. $1.1 bn/y in healthcare, Rand Corp.
@eier again you open yourself up for complete ridicule. but right now,i'm not really in the mood: but let me say this, undocumented immigrants do pay taxes,and MOST pay more into the system than they'll ever get back.when they sacrifice their paycheck for family members back home.Look im not an undocumented immigrant,nor am i speaking out for any immigrant organization but i know better than to let people like you run their mouths off with misinformation
@erik4727 Thanks for answering my questions and addressing each of my individual points. It makes me glad to see you quit while you're behind; shows me what adamant resolve my opposition has >: -)
Maybe I'll check out that pdf file and pester you some more.
@eier No no! I did respond to your comment but it's such a loaded question, i just answered what stood out to me the most. But look, the fact of the matter is the United States is the only nation with corporations able to start wars, and destroy entire countries. And even if we did manage to deport 10 million undocumented immigrants, default another 15% of our nation's mortgages, credit, etc. what do you think big business will do? Raise wages? No they'll just take their capital elsewhere.
@erik4727 How are they loaded questions? Afraid you can't refute them? And corporations don't start the wars; that's for troglodytes like Bush and Cheney. Corps just profit from them and perpetuate their existence. I think we're getting a little off-topic here...
@eier Thanks, and do you not understand LOADED? It means they're not easy to answer in 500 characters or less. And second of all, who the hell do you think pushed Bush and Dick into wars? It sure as fuck wasn't me, i'll tell you that damn much. Even if 911 wasn't a political stunt (which i wouldn't put past the US govt) i would ask for a way to solve the problems in a way that didn't suck our resources dry. But nope, instead we have retards like this blaming innocent people out on the street.
@erik4727 No, loaded means you're afraid answering honestly will make you look bad. C'mon. Like I said, we're getting a little off-topic here. We need not discuss 911 conspiracies and wars overseas to address the problem with our immigration policy (or lack thereof). Just answer me this: are you for completely open borders, or should there be some kind of framework in place to monitor who (and what) comes over from Mexico (or China, the Philippines, wherever)?
@eier Again, you couldn't be more off the mark. Loaded just means there's many ways i can approach a single problem as there are many ways to look at it, and again cannot simply be answered in 500 characters or less. and DON'T TELL ME MONEY DOESN'T MATTER OKAY? Money matters, if it didn't people wouldn't be complaining NOW they would've always been complaining that the government is a piece of shit. Otherwise, the tea party wouldve come along 20 years as opposed to 4 years ago.
@erik4727 1) Look up the wikipedia article for 'loaded question'. I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised. 2) I never said 'money doesn't matter.' If I implied it, please let me know where. 3) Could you please answer my f***ing question, already?! I don't mean to be rude, but you're becoming less and less coherent.
@eier again, unless you're willing to put yourself in that position, you're really no one to say that "deportation isn't bad" what a foolish statement. and incase you didn't know, we're talking politics and that's what politics is: who gets what when and how.
and cmon even i give you more credit than that. don't you understand the difference between guilt and being wrong? you can feel guilty about anything without having done anything. to be wrong, you'd have to have at least asserted something
@erik4727 It doesn't matter if I'd be against deportation if I were immigrating illegally; deportation would still be a fair sentence for me because I'd have broken the law. Oh, and here's a pointer for arguing on the internet effectively: when you use quotation marks in response to one's post, you should only use them if you are actually quoting something your opponent wrote, and I never wrote "deportation isn't bad". And what's this buisness about guilt? Are you high? It makes no sense.
@eier and again the only conspiracy theory is your open border scenario you seem to despise. if these were white people, it is most likely we wouldnt be banishing these people, we would be considering my option instead of kicking 10 million immigrants out. but judging by your answers, you seem real insecure. it makes me right.
@erik4727 Well, thanks for answering my open borders question. And just so you know, I'd be just as annoyed if millions of blue eyed devils from Russia were sneaking into Alaska, depressing wages, bankrupting municipal coffers, and making Palin even more popular to white trash Jesus freaks (I hope you hadn't assumed I'm some Christian cracker). And deportation is hardly banishment. And 911 was not an 'inside job'. And no, you most certainly are not right.
@eier It's doubtful, but take a look at the current economic condition. Blacks have ALWAYS been at high risk for foreclosure, job instability, and so forth, but now all of a sudden WHITES have been affected, and it's all of a sudden a global disaster. So forgive me for not seeing it as a race issue, but at least i hope you can see. Only a fool would not see this to be a race issue. But again, im not insulting anyone, Im describing them. sorry if you take it that way. I'm being brutally truthful.
@erik4727 It doesn't have to be about race. Most people who come out and demonstrate against illegal immigration happen to be White, and most illegal immigrants happen to be mestizos (or straight up Amerindians) from Latin America. However, many, if not most, African Americans also oppose illegal immigration; and I'll predict that their numbers will rise even higher and they'll become more vocal as Latinos gain influence and political clout. Does this make Blacks racist? Hell no! Neither...
@erik4727 ...are most Whites who oppose illegal immigration. Just because some stupid fucking Neo-nazis demonstrate against it doesn't mean everyone who demonstrates against it is racist. People in Save Our State don't rail against Jews like those assholes. The guy who posted this video never said anything racist to the woman he spoke to; if you don't believe me you need to watch the video again.
@calman1951 Well, personally, I think anyone should have free speech, legal or illegal. I don't, however, believe they should have the same rights to buy firearms as we do. Too many guns bought legally in this country (probably by illegals) make their way to Mexico and end up in the hands of cartels.
@eier See it's not the completely radical who fall into that trap of anti-immigration. It's just about ANYONE who can be tricked into racism. Because working class whites, despite their dire state compared to the people running the show, have always been tricked into racism and it's always been that way (ill direct you to a video if you care to find out more), just now we have the guise of democracy to hide under. Same shit, different generation.
@erik4727 I don't think they're "tricked into racism" so much as lacking the subtlety to hide it as effectively as the upper class. It's the same with minorities: who's more likely to call me a cracker or honkey to my face, a poor black man or a rich black man? Obviously the poor one. And please, don't confuse anti-immigration with anti-illegal immigration. If people were just plain anti-immigration, they'd protest college admissions for foreign nationals.
@eier Just because you add an "illegal" in front, it wont make people like this any happier. But first, let's analyze the outcome of racism and its effect in politics. While its true some minority youths do make it out from hellish conditions, these people are in the MINORITY. most whites are clueless and live sheltered from this lifestyle. Secondly, (say your assumption about racist blacks was true) how much sense does this Make: "blacks need to stop keeping whites down" Not much, does it?
@erik4727 I don't care if I'm making "people like this" (presumably you mean illegal immigrants) happier; I care if they are obeying the law (immigration law, mind you; I couldn't care less if they smoked a doobie). Anti-illegal immigration is not a racist position, any more than affirmative action is a racist position. Both can be viewed through a race-centric lens but need not be. To answer your question, no, that statement doesn't make sense. I don't know why you brought it up.
@eier scroll up, you'll find that you were the one that brought it to my attention. There's a reason for affirmative action and to me it's truly disgusting we've had to even come this far. and please do us both a favor, look up: Tim Wise Affirmative Action. watch it then come back. Tim speaks the truth, he speaks of ignorant people like you. Lets see if you have the concentration to sit through one of his riveting and informative videos. Also look up "Dream Kids Tim Wise" if you have the time.
@erik4727 I JUST said affirmative action need not be viewed through a race-centric lens, i.e. IT'S NOT RACIST. I agree with you on this and you don't even realize it. JEEZ. If I'm ignorant, you're just plain stupid. Oh, and Tim Wise is hardly a philosophical heavyweight. I figured you'd bring him up after having perusing your favorites list. He just wants White People to feel as guilty and ashamed as he does. He isn't about reconciliation among peoples so much as payback aka social justice
@eier Because whites have every reason to feel ashamed. This lady crossed a border without written consent, at MOST it's a civil infraction, yet people keep comparing it to any other crime like robbing a bank. Is robbing a bank a misdemeanor? Than why insist on comparing the two? I think the very fact we've had to write LAWS to defend against minorities is pathetic. It's like TV. People complain BET sucks WELL DUH there's only ONE channel where blacks are cherished. Everything else is WET.
@erik4727 I don't know who compared it to robbing a bank; maybe I've missed some other comments you've read. I agree it's a civil infraction. Why must Blacks (or any ethno/religious group for that matter) be "cherished"? Are Black People treated unfairly on other channels? White Entertainment Television? Seriously? Hahaha! Maybe that godawful Country Music Channel, but I think everything else is just PET: People entertainment television.
@eier By cherished i mean treated as equal seen and SEEN as such. And no, since you failed to answer my question before im only going to assume you agree with me that everything else is WHITE entertainment television. I mean seriously just look at the complete bullshit that stars Black actors: Everybody hates Chris where his being black was mentioned every two seconds as being something weird or different. HISPANICs dont even get mentioned unless there's a robbery once a month (GETS HYPED)
@erik4727 Sorry I didn't answer in time. I don't watch a lot of TV but I'll give it a shot. Black positive male role model where race is never brought up:...cricket sounds....more cricket sounds...oh yeah, Bernie Mac! I watched it when it was on. Good show, defo better than Wanda Sykes. Shame about Bernie though, RIP. And here's a "hispanic" (I prefer to call them Latinos, since they call themselves that): Battlestar Gallactica!!! Edward James Olmos is awesome.
@eier For everyone one ill name 3. But let me explain to you why those aren't valid: Wanda Sykes is a pathetic non-inspiring actor. Bernie Mac? Are you sure race was never brought up? I specifically remember himself referring to his wealth as being "nigger rich" no joke. and Olmos, oh PLEASE, Stand and Deliver was ALL ABOUT overcoming living in an entrenched racist society. Can you imagine if the same were reversed and whites would be refering to themselves this way?Canceled productions.
@erik4727 Battlestar Gallactica, man. You asked for shows, not movies. Race (aside from human vs cylon) is NEVER addressed on that show. It's great. And Stand and Deliver wasn't about escaping racism (well except the part where their scores were questioned); it was about escaping poverty and gang life. Racism and poverty don't always coincide, you know. Would you rather relegate Whites to stock characters the way minorities used to be? Oh! and The Wire is an excellent show, I hear.
@eier How about this, a show that doesn't take place in a fantastically unearthly setting? THe wire? have you SEEN what kind of stuff goes on on that show? It's like Snoop Dogg in real life....only maintained by whites who like seeing blacks only as they wish they were.
@eier what disturbs me the most is that ONLY blacks are this way because thats how blacks are represented. Idiots keep bringing up that only blacks act like idiots (snoop dogg is the classic example), but riddle me this, can his popularity, fame, and wealth be maintained ONLY by black people (8% of the nation's population?) absolutely not. It's white mainstream media's rejection of QUALITY black actors.
@erik4727 So, Idris Elba, Delroy Lindo, Donald Glover, Isaiah Washington, Dennis Haysbert, Shemar Moore, Omar Epps etc. aren't quality black actors? I can't find that many black actors I recognize (again since I don't watch much tv), but isn't this at least satisfactory for you? Some of these guys totally outshine their White counterparts; surely that makes them QUALITY black actors?
@eier It's called social control, and its routinely seeing black or brown dysfunction as being black or brown, but not white dysfunction as white. Want to know how I can prove my point? Go on youtube and try finding a video that has a black guy going insane vs a white guy going insane.Read the top comments and what do you think you'll read? Sure as fuck not sympathy for the black man i can tell you that much, even though they have every right to be angry (not to excuse their actions)
@erik4727 If the minority and majority roles were switched, "white dysfunction" as you called it would be "seen as white". It's just a consequence of which group is more populous. There's a famous mural on a wall in LA that shows Che Guevara saying "we are not a minority". Well, maybe in California they're not, but for now Latinos are a minority. However, that, too will likely change as the White majority dies off. Oh, and how exactly does one find a video of someone "going insane"? You...
@erik4727 ...mean having an emotional breakdown? Speaking in tongues? Holy rollers? What the hell qualifies you to know exactly what "going insane" looks like?! Point me to the specific video, and I might entertain your suggestion. Otherwise, don't rant about things you know so little about.
@eier Lol, again flat out REFUSES to look at the evidence ive pointed out to him. But what i did like is that little "toil" comment you gave me. If it's one thing you are, it's not STUPID. It's IGNORANT. You CHOOSE to ignore reality and take responsibility. You're IGNORANT.
@erik4727 What evidence?! You told me to find instances of descents into insanity on YT, but, you see, I don't know what that means unless you direct me to a video. Someone with no background in psychology (like me and probably like you too) would have no way of knowing what descending into insanity actually looks like. I mean...seriously, how the hell did we go from discussing illegal immigration and demographic change into this BS? You mentioned a "toil" comment. I've looked my last...
@erik4727 ...comment over very carefully and have found no mention of "toil". I already lectured you on proper quotation of comments. IF I NEVER USED THE WORD IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS, DON'T PUT QUOTATIONS ON THE WORD AND ACT LIKE I SAID IT. I hope this isn't another instance of you forgetting who the hell you're posting comments to, Erik. And please....what exactly should I be "taking responsibility" for? Lemme guess...genocide, right, cause I'm White and we're EEEEVIL.
@erik4727 My bad regarding "toil". I did in fact mention it in my farcical rant against Whites. Glad to know you liked that drivel--it suits your personality. We're going nowhere with this ongoing sorry excuse for a conversation. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
@eier being equal is hardly much of a payback, but blacks and hispanics cant even have that. Or could you enlighten me: name ONE SINGLE black positive male role model on a TV show where race is never brought up as a matter of their being DIFFERENT. I can only maybe come up with one (my wife and kids). And Tim Wise never LIES that's the difference you see? He's not insulting or asserting his opinion, he's observing and stating FACTS.
@erik4727 We're all already equal under the law; Wise can't let bygones be bygones. White people must give and GIVE and curse their ancestors, deny themselves any semblance of collective pride (they're the only ones with this restriction, mind you), and PRAY to whatever Gods may be that they and their progeny are not eternally condemned to hellfire and damnation. And heaven forbid they PROTEST their lot, for they had their chance, nay, MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of chances, one for every soul...
@eier And no please dont bring "soul" and "peace" and "together" and "bygones be bygones" because please, unless it's WHITES doing the damage it's NEVER OKAY.once sweeping immigration AND Healthcare reform and welcomed by the majority (aka WHITES) then yes,id agree with you. but i dont know what fucking world you live in but these atrocities are STILL going on. PLEASE watch "Dreamkids fight racism" on youtube. you'll learn a lot. Dont fool yourself into thinking everyone has an equal opportunity
@erik4727 So it's never ok to bring up these nice things unless WHITE people are doing damage. Double standards, much? It doesn't take the collective votes of all White Americans to enact any of that legislation; if the immigration reform you're considering (amnesty, come as you please, me country es su country, whatevs) is ever going to pass, it'll be due to a strident minority such as Latino Americans. I never said there was equal opportunity, just legal equality; there's a difference.
@eier You would've made so much sense if we didn't live in a White Supremacist society. Don't take that as an insult, take that as a given fact. So until we find a legacy of white slavery and laws that enforced latinos or blacks or native americans to lynch whites for being successful, then you can come bitching to me about legal equality.
@eier Reagan once said (and this is the only time you'll find me quoting reagan): "Time and Experience has shown that laws and edicts of non-discrimination are not enough, justice demands that each and every citizen consciously adopt and accentuate a real and personal commitment to affirmative action so as to make equal opportunity a reaction" Quoted for truth.
@erik4727 ...they and their ancestors CONDEMNED to death or a life of miserable toil as SLAVES, raping and pillaging and plundering and exploiting Mother Nature and her resources! They take and TAKE and give NOTHING in return; and so shall those they wronged, and their children, and their CHILDREN'S CHILDREN, until what was taken from THEM is back in the hands of its rightful OWNERS: the African, the Asian, the Indigenous of EVERY Non-European country EVER set foot on by those Devils of Men!
@erik4727 So you really take this position seriously? I hope not. Not even Pastor Wright could spew such invective. And I kinda liked him. I wrote this farcical tirade hoping to outshine even the late, great, fueled by hate Khalid Abdul Muhammad. And I watched the Aerials music video--I...I just don't get it...Maybe cause it's 3am where I am...goood night erik.
@eier Wow seriously? I know you weren't kidding because all of what you just stated was the ONLY thing in this whole thing that made sense and actually, you know HAPPENED? making them FACTS? those stubborn little things you seem to hate so much. If you wanted it to get worse, you couldve gotten hateful and just gone straight into lying. To tell you the truth, i wasnt keeping track of your name and just assumed you were some extraneous commenter. Guess not?
@erik4727 If you truly believe the blatantly anti-white drivel I concocted, you are the racist, amigo. If you can't tell I was kidding, you're thicker than Nicki Minaj's ass. And that's pretty damn thick, not to mention your neglect in who you were sending comments to. I'm the same asshole that's put up with you this WHOLE TIME. Nobody else has even commented you, Erik. Have a nice life, race-baiter.
@eier You're funny little boy, because none of what you stated was anti-white it was anti- RACIST. And until we have a world where Native Americans write laws that serve to criminalize whites for no other reason than BEING white, than okay ill fight the good fight right along with you. I'm not doing this for my better, this is a good learning lesson for you. You had it right only once, only continue on to see why those statements aren't anti-white. They're pro-reality.
@erik4727 You're in no position to patronize me, all while you complain there aren't any Black actors of any worth on TV, all while I provide evidence to the contrary. Anyway, in my PRETEND diatribe, I say whites have no right to be prideful of anything their culture has accomplished, while every other group of people do. I say they must curse their ancestors. This, coming from a White person, is essentially cultural suicide. Were it said by a Non-white against me would be racist. I believe
@eier And for every ONE i'll name you five. Let's see that was, what like 5? okay lets start with AFI's list of top twenty five actors 1. Humphrey Bogart 1. Katharine Hepburn
@erik4727 that people of ALL races, colors, and sexual orientations deserve this right. Black people have made amazing accomplishments they have a right to be proud of. Jewish people have made amazing accomplishments they have a right to be proud of. Well guess what: White people do too. That doesn't mean I encourage White pride; I discourage putting restrictions on peoples' expressions of cultural identity, no matter who they are.
@eier and like i said, you need to stop being a CRYBABY and act as if YOU'RE the one feeling the clutch. You want to know the people who are truly suffering? Ask the people with the least. Wealth is not a sign of moral superiority nor lack of the want of it. -Thomas Paine
In a perfect society where disparity were just a result of no ones doing then yes, you would be completely right. 100,000 years ago, you wouldve been right. But everything as we see it, is a social construct.
@erik4727 I don't think I'm "feeling the clutch". Calling me a crybaby while lamenting meager black representation on TV is very hypocritical of you. I mean, why even bring something like that up? Why not, I dunno, bring up the prison-industrial complex, HIV/AIDS in the black community, drug abuse in the black community, unemployment in the black community, teen pregnancy in the black community, absentee fathers in the black community. You know, the important stuff.
@eier the main point of that is being able to relate. if you cant relate with one another there's no hope.
and no, the important stuff is connection and relations with one another. we dont build those, we'll never build a society rid of despair. You can have unemployment and teen pregnancy and HIV and the extreme disparity in our 'justice system" (which is extremely stereotypical fyi) but does that matter for whites? are whites condemned for their skin color? nope. again its social control.
And look you can whine and bitch about it being a double standard, but get over it, HISTORY has been a double standard. Blacks have never written laws in the books that stated whites must be lynched, or have the legacy carry on to the modern day. (refer to videos) so please, reassess your comments and tell me who the real victim is.
@erik4727 Well the victim certainly isn't you. Would you rather implement new double standards and anti-White (pro-reality, in your warped view) discrimination OR try to actually stop hate by ignoring race alltogether? You say "refer to videos"--what videos? Could you list me some specific ones?
@eier and the only victim here is you, invariably. the gullible white....not citizen in their eyes, the CONSUMER. the fool who's stupid enough to believe anything in the world was either divine intervention or the ill actions of SOMEONE ELSE. no no, definitely not white poeple that's not possible! what i insist of you to do is first and foremost, get over yourself, and i mean this in the least immature way, and LISTEN to REALITY. and not fall prey to your media gods.
@erik4727 Are you trying to refer to how you earlier said that you were annoyed Black actors referred to themselves as being different/out-of-place because they were Black?
Oh, and I watched the dreamkids video with Tim (not so) Wise. He brings up valid points but utterly fails to correctly interpret the very real truth that the majority of African Americans are strongly against ilegal immigration.
@eier Then i dont really think you watched it: He explicitly states that we all need to pick up the slack on this one. Whites need to stop convincing blacks that Hispanics are their enemies, he even talked about it: divide and conquer! But hey, at least i got somewhat through to you. It's better than dealing with flamboyantly proud racists. I hope this was a learning experience for you. g'night.
@erik4727 Black people without any encouraging by whites have arrived at the same conclusions on their feelings about illegal immigration. Tim Wise must think both Blacks and Latinos are supposed to hate Whitey for there to be justice. He probably wouldn't mind racial conflict instigated by non-whites against whites as long as it gave him supporters. He would never admit this of course, the shrewd conniver that he is.
@eier another anti-truth anti-Wise. No one is asking anyone to hate whites, just to realize what they've done. By that same token, do you think we should just forget 9/11 because it might make people hate Arabs? Because we've seen that, yet this stuff is taught in our school! Again, you have to stop acting like whites are victims. I dont know why or how he can come off as some kind of liar or "conniver" as you stated, if it's one thing he's not is a liar.
@erik4727 They're not victims...yet. But if Wise's desires really come true, White people will be victims of egregious discrimination, if not outright violence. You know how often black youths kill each other? If Wise got to them, they just might kill whites instead. Who could blame them? No one standing up for Whites--no problem. There already seems to be a disturbing trend of 'beat Whitey day/night' events in Philly and a couple other places where gangs of blacks beat up random whites...
@eier By 'white people' in this comment I mean ones who refuse to toe the party line in this hypothetical future. Self-hating whites would find themselves welcome.
@erik4727 And I never said Wise was a liar. He leaves his true intentions unsaid, at least in speeches (An Open Letter to the White Right is a notable exeption), and this REEKS of duplicitous maneuvering (but not out & out lying). White people know what they've (more often, their ancestors) done, and most of us plan on leaving the past behind and treating everyone equally. That doesn't mean we should express collective guilt for generations to come. Besides, apologies might just be greeted..
@erik4727 ...with skepticism and disbelief. "Prove to us you're sorry," future revolutionaries of racial justice might say. "Get on your knees and PROVE IT, Cracker!" Yeah, this may seem drenched with laughable fantasy to you, but if today's Zimbabwe and South Africa are any indication of America's future, you may well agree with me. America's place on the world scale is dropping at an alarming rate few realize, and once our military empire collapses, all bets are off. Fall of Rome Part II.
@eier I will agree with you with this: it IS a social issue, it's a social issue BECAUSE it is an economic issue, it IS an economic issue because IT IS a racial issue. Can't you see the connections? I'm not being duplicitous!
@eier watch: "CIA Funnels drugs" and you'll see how the government itself has actually stifled black activism in some communities by way of introducing the one thing that any human being can do without: drugs.
@erik4727 I'm aware of the CIA's wreckless philandering in drug running. The agency needs a serious curtailing of its power, if not total dissolution and transfer of duties to the NSA (which as you may well know is no fan of freedom either). The Black Panthers of old are ok with me, and I've listened to a few Mumia abu Jamal broadcasts (New Black Panther Party however is just a Black man's KKK).
@eier Yeah that's where many people get it wrong. Racial Equality =/= Racial Superiority. And that's the main difference between La Raza and the KKK or the Black Panthers and the KKK. If more people understood that then people wouldn't be outrageous enough to make the claims that the Blank Panthers is worse than the KKK when all they taught was self-defense and pride in one's skin color, no matter what their Television told them.
@erik4727 Somewhere on Youtube, I can't remember now, I saw a video by National Geographic of a member of the NBPP shouting through a megaphone, and I quote, "You gonna have to kill some crackers! You gonna have to kill some of they babies!" If this is their cause, I can't see much of a difference between them and the KKK. While the NBPP hasn't killed anyone like the KKK has in the past, if given the opportunity, I wouldn't be surprised if they did. They are truly sick and should be ashamed
@erik4727 for trying to allign themselves with the much more reasonable Black Panther Party, which is currently defunct and whose members have denied ties to this newer organization.
@eier 11. Gary Cooper 11. Barbara Stanwyck 12. Gregory Peck 12. Claudette Colbert 13. John Wayne 13. Grace Kelly 14. Laurence Olivier 14. Ginger Rogers 15. Gene Kelly 15. Mae West 16. Orson Welles 16. Vivien Leigh 17. Kirk Douglas 17. Lillian Gish 18. James Dean 18. Shirley Temple 19. Burt Lancaster 19. Rita Hayworth 20. The Marx Brothers 20. Lauren Bacall 21. Buster Keaton 21. Sophia Loren 22. Sidney Poitier 22. Jean Harlow 23. Robert Mitchum 23. Carole Lombard
@norseczar27 what the fuck are you talking about? What kind of a debate does this JACKASS expect to stir up with this lady? He needs to get off peoples back because he's a fucking BULLY. The only reason he's never came up to me is because he's afraid to get knocked out by some simple facts. NEXT.
@erik4727 Need I remind you that SHE walked up to him to give him a piece of her mind. Him just standing out there with some signs and flags doesn't make him a bully; it makes him a PATRIOT. Nice to see you again, Erik.
fuck you white people go back to europa.....and fuck you mexican americans yall think yall are still mexican just cus your perents are from hear yall go around showingoff obout biing mexican wen back hear were geting our ases killd
I recognize this place. Rancho Penasquitos, CA. He's right by the car wash that employs about 30 or 40 illegas. Just disgusting. I hate every single Hispanic legal or not, because I've never met one that cares about America.
another civil war or worse because our police and government aren't inforceing the laws. They come here demanding that we bend over backwards for them and accomidate them because their countries are falling to crap. Why don't you do things the legal way instead of taking advantage of legal residents and taking our jobs. How about for once a job ad says "Must know English" instead of your language. It's complete B.S
I love how everyone likes to treat American's like shit when they're the ones running to us for help all the time and pouring into our borders...I also have Cherokee in me so you illgeals can't even sit there and say I'm not even native to this land. Yes the land was stolen from native americans, but two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't matter what our ancestors did. We're in the here and now. What they did is irrelevant and in the past. This is the here and now and we're on our way to
OMG shegot burned. I would of turned her in and saw to it she got deported. Don't call me a white racist. You should be deported if your any race and here illegally idiots. Just most illegal immigrants are Latino. I don't hate latinos. My pastor is Hispanic. He was born in Cuba and came here legally./Many of these illegal immigrants seem racist.
@TheConservativesrock oh and before you start saying oh your ancestors came here illegally. No, not all of them. I have Cherokee in me. Also, the Native Americans were defeated in war. WAR. You want that? I don't. So don't compare yourselves to Pilgrims.
The camera guy needs to catch a few canadians, russians, vietnamese & chinese illegals to be legit. I dont like villifying Latinos all the time. Its about laws & borders, not race.
@USAFORMERUSMC he only targets latinos not asians, europeans, africans, etc.!! fuckin racist motherfucker!! he always sends me messages calling me an anchor baby calling us spics etc. lol!!!
@TruSmokka13 ~ He must be leaving those comments on your personal page because I havent seen any racial slurs from him yet. What I do see is too much anti-usa banter from people who want to stay here. They want to change my country into some 3rd world toilet. Most Americans just want to preserve their (the way they perceive it) American lifestyle. It wouldnt be any different if the US came over to Mexico and did the same thing. Its not a racial thing, its a border thing.
@TruSmokka13 Don't need to. Just have the employment laws enforced every now and then w/ some occasional migra raids, and most of you will scatter like roaches.
@DerailAmnestydotcom you will never get rid of us!! we are here to stay!!! brown pride!! fuck all you racist motherfuckers!! we didnt cross the border the border crossed us!!:):) you illuminati supporting bitch!! people like you make the world a fucked up place!!! fuck you bitch!!
@TruSmokka13 Interesting response. Yell "brown pride" and then complain of racism. Thanks for the idea. Think I'll a Quarter Pounder Combo at McDonald's and then give a speech about the woes of poor dietary habits.
@DerailAmnestydotcom shut your racist mouth you punk racist bitch!! brown pride motherfucker!! im here in amerikkka and theres nothing you can do about it bitch!!!
@DerailAmnestydotcom im not racist you are bitch!!! you dont like mexicans!! you hide your racism by saying you dislike illegal immigrants!!! deep down inside you dont like mexicans!! calling mexican american anchor babies and shit!! fuck you motherfucker!! the fruit that you eat is picked by an illegal immigrant bitch!!
@TruSmokka13@TruSmokka13 No, "deep down inside" I'm chuckling at your dilemma. You want to complain about racist discrimination but can't stop hollering about "brown pride" and "gringos." Actually, I take that back. It's not very deep down inside. My laughing at your hypocritical nonsense is pretty superficial because I've heard hundreds of moderately educated Mexican illegal aliens or anchor babies do the same thing. Thanks for posting!
hahahahahaha....u guys make me laugh.....dont waste ur time!!! illegals r here to stay!you dont c not white of black ppl in la piska! we r the ones that support u guys!! u dont c no white or balck person doin a mexicans job....u guys r u fuckin lazy!! MEXICANS!!!!!!!!!! VIVA LA RASA!!!!!!
@pifkf If you lose you job cutting grass, your ass will go back. Fl. getting ready to pass laws tougher than AZ. When you leave, Obama may be going with you.
She says that she has the right to free speech, and you agreed with her. You were wrong. She is a self proclaimed illegal immigrant, so SHE HAS NO RIGHTS. And... Its nice to see that she learned the most important English words.
So I have 1 question, so if all illegal aliens magically went back to there country, exactly that would happen? ill tell u what I would due, I'd grab myself a lawn chair, a cooler full of some ice cold bud's, and watch this mother fucker with the camera cry like a little bitch, wishing all the illegal aliens would come back and due the hard agricultural labor, that not 1 "white person" is willing to due, I know I sure as hell don't wanna due it!
we the americans need mexicans/latinos to be here... for example, who ever is filming this video? would you like to work at the fields getting all those food vegetables or fruits you eat or whites eat, are you going to work to please whites? im pretty sure you wont last a week up in the fields you'll be talking to yourself "I now understand that we need mexicans and because they do jobs that we can't.. ok now STOP THE RACISM AND START THINKING WELL OF WHAT ARE YOU DOIING.. thank you
isaisagrero17 1 week ago
Ahahaha poor white american who is filming this video ok.. well first of all, yeah your right.you have the right of free of expression BUT you dont have the right to be MOLESTING people like that.. i would say that was so derespectful of you white guy who ever is filming thsi SHIT. COMPRENDE? lol.. well, honestly she did not do anything wrong by grabbing your camera she just felt insulted by the way you were been racist to her... people like you are so ignorants and direspectful..
isaisagrero17 1 week ago
Man, I cannot wait till Obama is out of the White House. I want to see the Federal government force the immigration laws and get this hag spic out of the country.
firethower99 4 months ago
@firethower99 ha ha
johnnypneumonic 4 months ago
ILLEGAL MEANS TRAITOR TO ONES OWN COUNTRY!!!!
ILLEGAL MEANS WE RUN B/C WE DON'T WAN'T TO FIGHT TO FIX OUR OWN COUNTRY!!!
ILLEGAL MEANS WE LIKE BEING PAYED LESS B/C WE ARE IGNORANT
ILLEGAL MEANS GET THE HELL OUT AND GO BACK TO THE COUNTRY THAT YOU AND YOU PEOPLE MESSED UP BUT DON'T WANT TO FIX!!!
frontlines101 5 months ago
this dude sounds like a mix of Harold Ramis, Al Michaels and Kermit the Frog
BlitzinLB27 6 months ago
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americans are white rats but finally rats, hahahaha they enjoy living from social services, they have no jobs, thats why they are on the strees waveing flags to feel they do something.
MRCARLOSSLIM1 6 months ago
I really wonder why people that have already broken the law by entering this country illegally think that they have rights that US Citizens don't The illegals have already demonstrated that they don't value our laws & don't intend to abide them. Yes, this country was founded by immigrants & I have no problem w/ anyone that wishes to migrarte here legally BUT Illegals have no rights they're protected under no laws, only by bleeding hearts.
riverjudephoenix1993 7 months ago 10
why do chu take me...???? go home illegals...join the service..put them on the front line..
HAnchondo 7 months ago
Youre nothing but a fucking coward bully, picking on the most economically disadvantaged people in this society. Jim Crow laws were repealed for a REASON. No one is a second-class citizen, regardless of what you've heard. And when you're ready to get off the streets and pushing people around, try to debate me on an intellectual level.
erik4727 8 months ago 7
@erik4727 How can a non-citizen be a second-class citizen?
eier 7 months ago
@eier I guess I should've said human being, but i guess a non-citizen and a human being aren't the same to you, right?
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Non-citizens are human beings of course, but human rights don't extend to immunity from immigration laws. It's the CITIZENS of a country that get to decide what laws they want to enforce, and a given country, any country, has the right to enforce its own laws. Mexico readily deports illegals entering from Guatemala, and citizens of Mexico have every right to keep them out. Why can't the same be true in the USA?
eier 7 months ago
@eier So hold on a second, so are you railing against Mexico or defending them now all of a sudden? You like Mexico but not Mexicans....I guess that's what people mean when they say they like America but not Americans..at least I can understand that. But again, what is this obsession with comparing is to other countries? Aren't we supposed to be better than them? If you like Mexico's immigration etiquette (which, sidebar, has been reformed only recently) why not move there?
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I'm not defending Mexicans who crossed over, although the way their government treats illegal immigrants to Mexico (i.e. deportation) makes more sense than how the US government treats its border problem (i.e. turns a blind eye to the whole thing pretty much). The Mexican government is very corrupt, and I would rather ordinary Mexicans stand up and demand their rights from that government than surreptitiously migrate en masse to my country. Poder para el pueblo! Si se puede!
eier 7 months ago
@eier I'm sorry the only thing that I'm getting from that is "I don't want them here"And sorry bud,that's just not gonna fly as a valid argument. The only government that is surreptitiously robbing basic human rights is the US government who SUPPORTS this kind of foul rape of a people. Why do you think we've spent well over 8 trillion dollars on our illegal wars, instead of focusing it on our neighbors to the South. Because they care about as much as you do.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I'd be fine with them here if they all came on student visas and took other legal avenues to get here, but you're right: I don't want illegal immigrants here, if that's what you mean by "them". If the US Government supports this "foul rape of a people", as you allege, why does it provide so many services for people with no documentation (free healthcare, WIC, welfare, I could go on...)? We spent all that money on wars because corporations and AIPAC are given far too much leeway...
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...to influence our congresspeople. Giving financial support to Mexico (meaning to the Mexican government) would be just as wasteful from a monetary standpoint because we'd be feeding the already staggering corruption there. We need to end the drug war (by legalizing marijuana, and at least decriminalizing cocaine) so that the cartels have competition from legitimate drug dealers to deal with, and we need our businesses to invest in Mexico. Mexicans must demand change from their gov
eier 7 months ago
@eier I never said give them financial support, I said redirect those resources to our neighbors to whom we owe half this country too, okay!? People can't ask for change if they can't tell where it starts, that's where we come in. If whites were put in the same fucking situation, they would be jjust as clueless, but never fear the United States with it's so-called non-preferential treatment would be right at their door slamming down the cartels and corrupt govt (whom we back by the by) .
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 You never answered my question concerning the alleged "foul rape of a people" by the US Government. How can you say (actually--imply) that Mexicans wouldn't know what to do to remedy the situation? They are experiencing the injustice first-hand, so they should know what's up more than we do! That to me indicates that you view Mexicans as some naive society of half-wits! Oh, and just so you know, our government is no angel either. I hope that now that the Cold War has been over...
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...the CIA hasn't been doing deals with the cartels, all while they help turn former tourist towns like Juarez into police states. In a way, I can empathize with some Mexicans coming here as refugees from the violence, and in a place like Juarez, I'd probably be a-ok with them coming in--papers or no papers. But most Mexicans aren't fleeing violence; they come for the opportunity to build a better life, albeit at the expense of programs and institutions erected to help citizens.
eier 7 months ago
@eier They're still escaping for better conditions,no matter which way you want to slice it, and in accordance to the geneva conventions(every person has the right to provide sustenance)I don't see how it violates any human laws.If anything we're doing the violating. Baseless wanton violating at that.Again, if the US gave a damn we wouldnt be spending trillions on failed,illegal wars,we would actually STOP this "war on drugs" (aka) war on dark skinned people and attack the problem at the source.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 So these people have a right to cross an international border and live in a foreign country without regard to that nation's laws? Would you have a right to cross the border into Canada and then live there illegally, or is there something special about people crossing into the US from Mexico? I'm as mad about the oil wars overseas and drug wars in our own back yard as you are, believe me; but how does any of that give people crossing the border illegally the right to live here?
eier 7 months ago
@eier and no, if you bothered to watch the video, you would see how the CIA has incessantly been opressing minority communities especially during times of civil rights.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Which video? This comment board is for a video that has no mention of the CIA or "opressing minority communities". Please explain yourself.
eier 7 months ago
@eier addendum: you're falling into the same dangerous trap retards like this man are falling into. this false notion that all they do here is "derk our jobs" and bankrupt our social services, because this has been constantly proven false.They give more than they'll ever get.PERIOD.Lets not go there no what bothers me is this: if you have this illusion that all these people whom according to you just recently crossed the border took your job, what does that say about the kind of person you are?
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I don't think they're taking jobs from Americans; part of the problem is the American mindset that some jobs are beneath us. I wish we were more like the Japanese--they don't import foreign labor even though their laborers do the same jobs in Japan as many illegal immigrants do here. Apart from the jobs issue, which from your standpoint is a straw man against me, there IS evidence of negative effects on social services from illegal immigration. $1.1 bn/y in healthcare, Rand Corp.
eier 7 months ago
@eier again you open yourself up for complete ridicule. but right now,i'm not really in the mood: but let me say this, undocumented immigrants do pay taxes,and MOST pay more into the system than they'll ever get back.when they sacrifice their paycheck for family members back home.Look im not an undocumented immigrant,nor am i speaking out for any immigrant organization but i know better than to let people like you run their mouths off with misinformation
cmd princeton edu/files/POM_june2007 pdf
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Thanks for answering my questions and addressing each of my individual points. It makes me glad to see you quit while you're behind; shows me what adamant resolve my opposition has >: -)
Maybe I'll check out that pdf file and pester you some more.
eier 7 months ago
@eier No no! I did respond to your comment but it's such a loaded question, i just answered what stood out to me the most. But look, the fact of the matter is the United States is the only nation with corporations able to start wars, and destroy entire countries. And even if we did manage to deport 10 million undocumented immigrants, default another 15% of our nation's mortgages, credit, etc. what do you think big business will do? Raise wages? No they'll just take their capital elsewhere.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 How are they loaded questions? Afraid you can't refute them? And corporations don't start the wars; that's for troglodytes like Bush and Cheney. Corps just profit from them and perpetuate their existence. I think we're getting a little off-topic here...
I'll check out that pdf now.
eier 7 months ago
@eier Thanks, and do you not understand LOADED? It means they're not easy to answer in 500 characters or less. And second of all, who the hell do you think pushed Bush and Dick into wars? It sure as fuck wasn't me, i'll tell you that damn much. Even if 911 wasn't a political stunt (which i wouldn't put past the US govt) i would ask for a way to solve the problems in a way that didn't suck our resources dry. But nope, instead we have retards like this blaming innocent people out on the street.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 No, loaded means you're afraid answering honestly will make you look bad. C'mon. Like I said, we're getting a little off-topic here. We need not discuss 911 conspiracies and wars overseas to address the problem with our immigration policy (or lack thereof). Just answer me this: are you for completely open borders, or should there be some kind of framework in place to monitor who (and what) comes over from Mexico (or China, the Philippines, wherever)?
eier 7 months ago
@eier Again, you couldn't be more off the mark. Loaded just means there's many ways i can approach a single problem as there are many ways to look at it, and again cannot simply be answered in 500 characters or less. and DON'T TELL ME MONEY DOESN'T MATTER OKAY? Money matters, if it didn't people wouldn't be complaining NOW they would've always been complaining that the government is a piece of shit. Otherwise, the tea party wouldve come along 20 years as opposed to 4 years ago.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 1) Look up the wikipedia article for 'loaded question'. I think you'll be unpleasantly surprised. 2) I never said 'money doesn't matter.' If I implied it, please let me know where. 3) Could you please answer my f***ing question, already?! I don't mean to be rude, but you're becoming less and less coherent.
eier 7 months ago
@eier again, unless you're willing to put yourself in that position, you're really no one to say that "deportation isn't bad" what a foolish statement. and incase you didn't know, we're talking politics and that's what politics is: who gets what when and how.
and cmon even i give you more credit than that. don't you understand the difference between guilt and being wrong? you can feel guilty about anything without having done anything. to be wrong, you'd have to have at least asserted something
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 It doesn't matter if I'd be against deportation if I were immigrating illegally; deportation would still be a fair sentence for me because I'd have broken the law. Oh, and here's a pointer for arguing on the internet effectively: when you use quotation marks in response to one's post, you should only use them if you are actually quoting something your opponent wrote, and I never wrote "deportation isn't bad". And what's this buisness about guilt? Are you high? It makes no sense.
eier 7 months ago
@eier and again the only conspiracy theory is your open border scenario you seem to despise. if these were white people, it is most likely we wouldnt be banishing these people, we would be considering my option instead of kicking 10 million immigrants out. but judging by your answers, you seem real insecure. it makes me right.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Well, thanks for answering my open borders question. And just so you know, I'd be just as annoyed if millions of blue eyed devils from Russia were sneaking into Alaska, depressing wages, bankrupting municipal coffers, and making Palin even more popular to white trash Jesus freaks (I hope you hadn't assumed I'm some Christian cracker). And deportation is hardly banishment. And 911 was not an 'inside job'. And no, you most certainly are not right.
eier 7 months ago
@eier It's doubtful, but take a look at the current economic condition. Blacks have ALWAYS been at high risk for foreclosure, job instability, and so forth, but now all of a sudden WHITES have been affected, and it's all of a sudden a global disaster. So forgive me for not seeing it as a race issue, but at least i hope you can see. Only a fool would not see this to be a race issue. But again, im not insulting anyone, Im describing them. sorry if you take it that way. I'm being brutally truthful.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 It doesn't have to be about race. Most people who come out and demonstrate against illegal immigration happen to be White, and most illegal immigrants happen to be mestizos (or straight up Amerindians) from Latin America. However, many, if not most, African Americans also oppose illegal immigration; and I'll predict that their numbers will rise even higher and they'll become more vocal as Latinos gain influence and political clout. Does this make Blacks racist? Hell no! Neither...
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...are most Whites who oppose illegal immigration. Just because some stupid fucking Neo-nazis demonstrate against it doesn't mean everyone who demonstrates against it is racist. People in Save Our State don't rail against Jews like those assholes. The guy who posted this video never said anything racist to the woman he spoke to; if you don't believe me you need to watch the video again.
eier 7 months ago
@eier He was not only polte but patient as well.What struck Me as funny was Her claim to freedom of speech-from a self proclaimed illegal.
calman1951 7 months ago
@calman1951 Well, personally, I think anyone should have free speech, legal or illegal. I don't, however, believe they should have the same rights to buy firearms as we do. Too many guns bought legally in this country (probably by illegals) make their way to Mexico and end up in the hands of cartels.
eier 7 months ago
@eier Maybe freedom of speech should be accepted.But drivers licenses,schooling etc. needs to stop
calman1951 7 months ago
@calman1951 Agreed.
eier 7 months ago
@eier See it's not the completely radical who fall into that trap of anti-immigration. It's just about ANYONE who can be tricked into racism. Because working class whites, despite their dire state compared to the people running the show, have always been tricked into racism and it's always been that way (ill direct you to a video if you care to find out more), just now we have the guise of democracy to hide under. Same shit, different generation.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I don't think they're "tricked into racism" so much as lacking the subtlety to hide it as effectively as the upper class. It's the same with minorities: who's more likely to call me a cracker or honkey to my face, a poor black man or a rich black man? Obviously the poor one. And please, don't confuse anti-immigration with anti-illegal immigration. If people were just plain anti-immigration, they'd protest college admissions for foreign nationals.
eier 7 months ago
@eier Just because you add an "illegal" in front, it wont make people like this any happier. But first, let's analyze the outcome of racism and its effect in politics. While its true some minority youths do make it out from hellish conditions, these people are in the MINORITY. most whites are clueless and live sheltered from this lifestyle. Secondly, (say your assumption about racist blacks was true) how much sense does this Make: "blacks need to stop keeping whites down" Not much, does it?
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I don't care if I'm making "people like this" (presumably you mean illegal immigrants) happier; I care if they are obeying the law (immigration law, mind you; I couldn't care less if they smoked a doobie). Anti-illegal immigration is not a racist position, any more than affirmative action is a racist position. Both can be viewed through a race-centric lens but need not be. To answer your question, no, that statement doesn't make sense. I don't know why you brought it up.
eier 7 months ago
@eier scroll up, you'll find that you were the one that brought it to my attention. There's a reason for affirmative action and to me it's truly disgusting we've had to even come this far. and please do us both a favor, look up: Tim Wise Affirmative Action. watch it then come back. Tim speaks the truth, he speaks of ignorant people like you. Lets see if you have the concentration to sit through one of his riveting and informative videos. Also look up "Dream Kids Tim Wise" if you have the time.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I JUST said affirmative action need not be viewed through a race-centric lens, i.e. IT'S NOT RACIST. I agree with you on this and you don't even realize it. JEEZ. If I'm ignorant, you're just plain stupid. Oh, and Tim Wise is hardly a philosophical heavyweight. I figured you'd bring him up after having perusing your favorites list. He just wants White People to feel as guilty and ashamed as he does. He isn't about reconciliation among peoples so much as payback aka social justice
eier 7 months ago
@eier Because whites have every reason to feel ashamed. This lady crossed a border without written consent, at MOST it's a civil infraction, yet people keep comparing it to any other crime like robbing a bank. Is robbing a bank a misdemeanor? Than why insist on comparing the two? I think the very fact we've had to write LAWS to defend against minorities is pathetic. It's like TV. People complain BET sucks WELL DUH there's only ONE channel where blacks are cherished. Everything else is WET.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I don't know who compared it to robbing a bank; maybe I've missed some other comments you've read. I agree it's a civil infraction. Why must Blacks (or any ethno/religious group for that matter) be "cherished"? Are Black People treated unfairly on other channels? White Entertainment Television? Seriously? Hahaha! Maybe that godawful Country Music Channel, but I think everything else is just PET: People entertainment television.
eier 7 months ago
@eier By cherished i mean treated as equal seen and SEEN as such. And no, since you failed to answer my question before im only going to assume you agree with me that everything else is WHITE entertainment television. I mean seriously just look at the complete bullshit that stars Black actors: Everybody hates Chris where his being black was mentioned every two seconds as being something weird or different. HISPANICs dont even get mentioned unless there's a robbery once a month (GETS HYPED)
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Sorry I didn't answer in time. I don't watch a lot of TV but I'll give it a shot. Black positive male role model where race is never brought up:...cricket sounds....more cricket sounds...oh yeah, Bernie Mac! I watched it when it was on. Good show, defo better than Wanda Sykes. Shame about Bernie though, RIP. And here's a "hispanic" (I prefer to call them Latinos, since they call themselves that): Battlestar Gallactica!!! Edward James Olmos is awesome.
eier 7 months ago
@eier For everyone one ill name 3. But let me explain to you why those aren't valid: Wanda Sykes is a pathetic non-inspiring actor. Bernie Mac? Are you sure race was never brought up? I specifically remember himself referring to his wealth as being "nigger rich" no joke. and Olmos, oh PLEASE, Stand and Deliver was ALL ABOUT overcoming living in an entrenched racist society. Can you imagine if the same were reversed and whites would be refering to themselves this way?Canceled productions.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Battlestar Gallactica, man. You asked for shows, not movies. Race (aside from human vs cylon) is NEVER addressed on that show. It's great. And Stand and Deliver wasn't about escaping racism (well except the part where their scores were questioned); it was about escaping poverty and gang life. Racism and poverty don't always coincide, you know. Would you rather relegate Whites to stock characters the way minorities used to be? Oh! and The Wire is an excellent show, I hear.
eier 7 months ago
@eier How about this, a show that doesn't take place in a fantastically unearthly setting? THe wire? have you SEEN what kind of stuff goes on on that show? It's like Snoop Dogg in real life....only maintained by whites who like seeing blacks only as they wish they were.
erik4727 7 months ago
@eier what disturbs me the most is that ONLY blacks are this way because thats how blacks are represented. Idiots keep bringing up that only blacks act like idiots (snoop dogg is the classic example), but riddle me this, can his popularity, fame, and wealth be maintained ONLY by black people (8% of the nation's population?) absolutely not. It's white mainstream media's rejection of QUALITY black actors.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 So, Idris Elba, Delroy Lindo, Donald Glover, Isaiah Washington, Dennis Haysbert, Shemar Moore, Omar Epps etc. aren't quality black actors? I can't find that many black actors I recognize (again since I don't watch much tv), but isn't this at least satisfactory for you? Some of these guys totally outshine their White counterparts; surely that makes them QUALITY black actors?
eier 7 months ago
@eier It's called social control, and its routinely seeing black or brown dysfunction as being black or brown, but not white dysfunction as white. Want to know how I can prove my point? Go on youtube and try finding a video that has a black guy going insane vs a white guy going insane.Read the top comments and what do you think you'll read? Sure as fuck not sympathy for the black man i can tell you that much, even though they have every right to be angry (not to excuse their actions)
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 If the minority and majority roles were switched, "white dysfunction" as you called it would be "seen as white". It's just a consequence of which group is more populous. There's a famous mural on a wall in LA that shows Che Guevara saying "we are not a minority". Well, maybe in California they're not, but for now Latinos are a minority. However, that, too will likely change as the White majority dies off. Oh, and how exactly does one find a video of someone "going insane"? You...
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...mean having an emotional breakdown? Speaking in tongues? Holy rollers? What the hell qualifies you to know exactly what "going insane" looks like?! Point me to the specific video, and I might entertain your suggestion. Otherwise, don't rant about things you know so little about.
eier 7 months ago
@eier Lol, again flat out REFUSES to look at the evidence ive pointed out to him. But what i did like is that little "toil" comment you gave me. If it's one thing you are, it's not STUPID. It's IGNORANT. You CHOOSE to ignore reality and take responsibility. You're IGNORANT.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 What evidence?! You told me to find instances of descents into insanity on YT, but, you see, I don't know what that means unless you direct me to a video. Someone with no background in psychology (like me and probably like you too) would have no way of knowing what descending into insanity actually looks like. I mean...seriously, how the hell did we go from discussing illegal immigration and demographic change into this BS? You mentioned a "toil" comment. I've looked my last...
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...comment over very carefully and have found no mention of "toil". I already lectured you on proper quotation of comments. IF I NEVER USED THE WORD IN MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS, DON'T PUT QUOTATIONS ON THE WORD AND ACT LIKE I SAID IT. I hope this isn't another instance of you forgetting who the hell you're posting comments to, Erik. And please....what exactly should I be "taking responsibility" for? Lemme guess...genocide, right, cause I'm White and we're EEEEVIL.
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 My bad regarding "toil". I did in fact mention it in my farcical rant against Whites. Glad to know you liked that drivel--it suits your personality. We're going nowhere with this ongoing sorry excuse for a conversation. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I'll now bid you adieu and goodbye forever.
EIER
eier 7 months ago
@eier that is of course, if you didn't completely rip that off a website or something, otherwise good job mate!
erik4727 7 months ago
@eier being equal is hardly much of a payback, but blacks and hispanics cant even have that. Or could you enlighten me: name ONE SINGLE black positive male role model on a TV show where race is never brought up as a matter of their being DIFFERENT. I can only maybe come up with one (my wife and kids). And Tim Wise never LIES that's the difference you see? He's not insulting or asserting his opinion, he's observing and stating FACTS.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 We're all already equal under the law; Wise can't let bygones be bygones. White people must give and GIVE and curse their ancestors, deny themselves any semblance of collective pride (they're the only ones with this restriction, mind you), and PRAY to whatever Gods may be that they and their progeny are not eternally condemned to hellfire and damnation. And heaven forbid they PROTEST their lot, for they had their chance, nay, MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of chances, one for every soul...
eier 7 months ago
@eier And no please dont bring "soul" and "peace" and "together" and "bygones be bygones" because please, unless it's WHITES doing the damage it's NEVER OKAY.once sweeping immigration AND Healthcare reform and welcomed by the majority (aka WHITES) then yes,id agree with you. but i dont know what fucking world you live in but these atrocities are STILL going on. PLEASE watch "Dreamkids fight racism" on youtube. you'll learn a lot. Dont fool yourself into thinking everyone has an equal opportunity
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 So it's never ok to bring up these nice things unless WHITE people are doing damage. Double standards, much? It doesn't take the collective votes of all White Americans to enact any of that legislation; if the immigration reform you're considering (amnesty, come as you please, me country es su country, whatevs) is ever going to pass, it'll be due to a strident minority such as Latino Americans. I never said there was equal opportunity, just legal equality; there's a difference.
eier 7 months ago
@eier You would've made so much sense if we didn't live in a White Supremacist society. Don't take that as an insult, take that as a given fact. So until we find a legacy of white slavery and laws that enforced latinos or blacks or native americans to lynch whites for being successful, then you can come bitching to me about legal equality.
erik4727 7 months ago
@eier Reagan once said (and this is the only time you'll find me quoting reagan): "Time and Experience has shown that laws and edicts of non-discrimination are not enough, justice demands that each and every citizen consciously adopt and accentuate a real and personal commitment to affirmative action so as to make equal opportunity a reaction" Quoted for truth.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...they and their ancestors CONDEMNED to death or a life of miserable toil as SLAVES, raping and pillaging and plundering and exploiting Mother Nature and her resources! They take and TAKE and give NOTHING in return; and so shall those they wronged, and their children, and their CHILDREN'S CHILDREN, until what was taken from THEM is back in the hands of its rightful OWNERS: the African, the Asian, the Indigenous of EVERY Non-European country EVER set foot on by those Devils of Men!
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@eier Yeah thats the pretty graphic way of putting it, but yes. Your delineation reminds me of "Aerials" by System of a Down
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 So you really take this position seriously? I hope not. Not even Pastor Wright could spew such invective. And I kinda liked him. I wrote this farcical tirade hoping to outshine even the late, great, fueled by hate Khalid Abdul Muhammad. And I watched the Aerials music video--I...I just don't get it...Maybe cause it's 3am where I am...goood night erik.
eier 7 months ago
@eier Wow seriously? I know you weren't kidding because all of what you just stated was the ONLY thing in this whole thing that made sense and actually, you know HAPPENED? making them FACTS? those stubborn little things you seem to hate so much. If you wanted it to get worse, you couldve gotten hateful and just gone straight into lying. To tell you the truth, i wasnt keeping track of your name and just assumed you were some extraneous commenter. Guess not?
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 If you truly believe the blatantly anti-white drivel I concocted, you are the racist, amigo. If you can't tell I was kidding, you're thicker than Nicki Minaj's ass. And that's pretty damn thick, not to mention your neglect in who you were sending comments to. I'm the same asshole that's put up with you this WHOLE TIME. Nobody else has even commented you, Erik. Have a nice life, race-baiter.
eier 7 months ago
@eier You're funny little boy, because none of what you stated was anti-white it was anti- RACIST. And until we have a world where Native Americans write laws that serve to criminalize whites for no other reason than BEING white, than okay ill fight the good fight right along with you. I'm not doing this for my better, this is a good learning lesson for you. You had it right only once, only continue on to see why those statements aren't anti-white. They're pro-reality.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 You're in no position to patronize me, all while you complain there aren't any Black actors of any worth on TV, all while I provide evidence to the contrary. Anyway, in my PRETEND diatribe, I say whites have no right to be prideful of anything their culture has accomplished, while every other group of people do. I say they must curse their ancestors. This, coming from a White person, is essentially cultural suicide. Were it said by a Non-white against me would be racist. I believe
eier 7 months ago
@eier And for every ONE i'll name you five. Let's see that was, what like 5? okay lets start with AFI's list of top twenty five actors 1. Humphrey Bogart 1. Katharine Hepburn
2. Cary Grant 2. Bette Davis
3. James Stewart 3. Audrey Hepburn
4. Marlon Brando 4. Ingrid Bergman
5. Fred Astaire 5. Greta Garbo
6. Henry Fonda 6. Marilyn Monroe
7. Clark Gable 7. Elizabeth Taylor
8. James Cagney 8.Judy Garland
9. Spencer Tracy 9.Marlene Dietrich
10. Charlie Chaplin 10.Joan Crawford
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 that people of ALL races, colors, and sexual orientations deserve this right. Black people have made amazing accomplishments they have a right to be proud of. Jewish people have made amazing accomplishments they have a right to be proud of. Well guess what: White people do too. That doesn't mean I encourage White pride; I discourage putting restrictions on peoples' expressions of cultural identity, no matter who they are.
eier 7 months ago
@eier and like i said, you need to stop being a CRYBABY and act as if YOU'RE the one feeling the clutch. You want to know the people who are truly suffering? Ask the people with the least. Wealth is not a sign of moral superiority nor lack of the want of it. -Thomas Paine
In a perfect society where disparity were just a result of no ones doing then yes, you would be completely right. 100,000 years ago, you wouldve been right. But everything as we see it, is a social construct.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I don't think I'm "feeling the clutch". Calling me a crybaby while lamenting meager black representation on TV is very hypocritical of you. I mean, why even bring something like that up? Why not, I dunno, bring up the prison-industrial complex, HIV/AIDS in the black community, drug abuse in the black community, unemployment in the black community, teen pregnancy in the black community, absentee fathers in the black community. You know, the important stuff.
eier 7 months ago
@eier the main point of that is being able to relate. if you cant relate with one another there's no hope.
and no, the important stuff is connection and relations with one another. we dont build those, we'll never build a society rid of despair. You can have unemployment and teen pregnancy and HIV and the extreme disparity in our 'justice system" (which is extremely stereotypical fyi) but does that matter for whites? are whites condemned for their skin color? nope. again its social control.
erik4727 7 months ago
@eier 23. Robert Mitchum 23. Carole Lombard
24. Edward G. Robinson 24. Mary Pickford
25. William Holden 25. Ava Gardner
And look you can whine and bitch about it being a double standard, but get over it, HISTORY has been a double standard. Blacks have never written laws in the books that stated whites must be lynched, or have the legacy carry on to the modern day. (refer to videos) so please, reassess your comments and tell me who the real victim is.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Well the victim certainly isn't you. Would you rather implement new double standards and anti-White (pro-reality, in your warped view) discrimination OR try to actually stop hate by ignoring race alltogether? You say "refer to videos"--what videos? Could you list me some specific ones?
eier 7 months ago
@eier and the only victim here is you, invariably. the gullible white....not citizen in their eyes, the CONSUMER. the fool who's stupid enough to believe anything in the world was either divine intervention or the ill actions of SOMEONE ELSE. no no, definitely not white poeple that's not possible! what i insist of you to do is first and foremost, get over yourself, and i mean this in the least immature way, and LISTEN to REALITY. and not fall prey to your media gods.
erik4727 7 months ago
@eier Tell me, who among those ever brought up their being white EVER, as being a sign of being less? Not a single one that I can name.....
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Are you trying to refer to how you earlier said that you were annoyed Black actors referred to themselves as being different/out-of-place because they were Black?
Oh, and I watched the dreamkids video with Tim (not so) Wise. He brings up valid points but utterly fails to correctly interpret the very real truth that the majority of African Americans are strongly against ilegal immigration.
eier 7 months ago
@eier Then i dont really think you watched it: He explicitly states that we all need to pick up the slack on this one. Whites need to stop convincing blacks that Hispanics are their enemies, he even talked about it: divide and conquer! But hey, at least i got somewhat through to you. It's better than dealing with flamboyantly proud racists. I hope this was a learning experience for you. g'night.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Black people without any encouraging by whites have arrived at the same conclusions on their feelings about illegal immigration. Tim Wise must think both Blacks and Latinos are supposed to hate Whitey for there to be justice. He probably wouldn't mind racial conflict instigated by non-whites against whites as long as it gave him supporters. He would never admit this of course, the shrewd conniver that he is.
eier 7 months ago
@eier another anti-truth anti-Wise. No one is asking anyone to hate whites, just to realize what they've done. By that same token, do you think we should just forget 9/11 because it might make people hate Arabs? Because we've seen that, yet this stuff is taught in our school! Again, you have to stop acting like whites are victims. I dont know why or how he can come off as some kind of liar or "conniver" as you stated, if it's one thing he's not is a liar.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 They're not victims...yet. But if Wise's desires really come true, White people will be victims of egregious discrimination, if not outright violence. You know how often black youths kill each other? If Wise got to them, they just might kill whites instead. Who could blame them? No one standing up for Whites--no problem. There already seems to be a disturbing trend of 'beat Whitey day/night' events in Philly and a couple other places where gangs of blacks beat up random whites...
eier 7 months ago
@eier By 'white people' in this comment I mean ones who refuse to toe the party line in this hypothetical future. Self-hating whites would find themselves welcome.
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 And I never said Wise was a liar. He leaves his true intentions unsaid, at least in speeches (An Open Letter to the White Right is a notable exeption), and this REEKS of duplicitous maneuvering (but not out & out lying). White people know what they've (more often, their ancestors) done, and most of us plan on leaving the past behind and treating everyone equally. That doesn't mean we should express collective guilt for generations to come. Besides, apologies might just be greeted..
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 ...with skepticism and disbelief. "Prove to us you're sorry," future revolutionaries of racial justice might say. "Get on your knees and PROVE IT, Cracker!" Yeah, this may seem drenched with laughable fantasy to you, but if today's Zimbabwe and South Africa are any indication of America's future, you may well agree with me. America's place on the world scale is dropping at an alarming rate few realize, and once our military empire collapses, all bets are off. Fall of Rome Part II.
eier 7 months ago
@eier I will agree with you with this: it IS a social issue, it's a social issue BECAUSE it is an economic issue, it IS an economic issue because IT IS a racial issue. Can't you see the connections? I'm not being duplicitous!
erik4727 7 months ago
@eier watch: "CIA Funnels drugs" and you'll see how the government itself has actually stifled black activism in some communities by way of introducing the one thing that any human being can do without: drugs.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 I'm aware of the CIA's wreckless philandering in drug running. The agency needs a serious curtailing of its power, if not total dissolution and transfer of duties to the NSA (which as you may well know is no fan of freedom either). The Black Panthers of old are ok with me, and I've listened to a few Mumia abu Jamal broadcasts (New Black Panther Party however is just a Black man's KKK).
eier 7 months ago
@eier Yeah that's where many people get it wrong. Racial Equality =/= Racial Superiority. And that's the main difference between La Raza and the KKK or the Black Panthers and the KKK. If more people understood that then people wouldn't be outrageous enough to make the claims that the Blank Panthers is worse than the KKK when all they taught was self-defense and pride in one's skin color, no matter what their Television told them.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 The New Black Panther Party is not the same as the old Black Panther Party.
eier 7 months ago
@eier whatever their fighting for, their cause is still much more noble than the KKK.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Somewhere on Youtube, I can't remember now, I saw a video by National Geographic of a member of the NBPP shouting through a megaphone, and I quote, "You gonna have to kill some crackers! You gonna have to kill some of they babies!" If this is their cause, I can't see much of a difference between them and the KKK. While the NBPP hasn't killed anyone like the KKK has in the past, if given the opportunity, I wouldn't be surprised if they did. They are truly sick and should be ashamed
eier 7 months ago
@erik4727 for trying to allign themselves with the much more reasonable Black Panther Party, which is currently defunct and whose members have denied ties to this newer organization.
eier 7 months ago
@eier the only thing grounded in truth and reality, yet the only thing you take back? what a shame.
erik4727 7 months ago
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 He's not picking on anyone. He is just filming and these people come up to him and start trash with him.
norseczar27 7 months ago
@norseczar27 what the fuck are you talking about? What kind of a debate does this JACKASS expect to stir up with this lady? He needs to get off peoples back because he's a fucking BULLY. The only reason he's never came up to me is because he's afraid to get knocked out by some simple facts. NEXT.
erik4727 7 months ago
@erik4727 Need I remind you that SHE walked up to him to give him a piece of her mind. Him just standing out there with some signs and flags doesn't make him a bully; it makes him a PATRIOT. Nice to see you again, Erik.
eier 7 months ago
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hahahahahahahaah.... faggots..... we are here to stay....
five4allday 9 months ago
shoot that old lady in the head and its every citizen right to throw out foreign invaders
destroyingsociety 9 months ago
i wish we have an EASY BUTTON, so we can get this fucking mexicants out of here.
klacfyde 10 months ago
you are all immigrants because we all came from the same place.
Exhume2Consume 10 months ago
fuck you white people go back to europa.....and fuck you mexican americans yall think yall are still mexican just cus your perents are from hear yall go around showingoff obout biing mexican wen back hear were geting our ases killd
mario1368499 11 months ago
I hove no sympathy to those ingrates and invaders!
Rakastaja1 11 months ago
I would of gave her a citizen arrest!!
copenhagenlct 1 year ago
Ahh fuck, just NUKE MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
johnnypneumonic 1 year ago
actually she is right, she is paying taxes too.
mecachislamar 1 year ago
I recognize this place. Rancho Penasquitos, CA. He's right by the car wash that employs about 30 or 40 illegas. Just disgusting. I hate every single Hispanic legal or not, because I've never met one that cares about America.
shal0mnurh0me 1 year ago
its like arguing with a 3 year old. illegals huh?
TheAbeTate 1 year ago
go home u stupid fuckin illegal mexicans, your trash and skum.
Eric2827 1 year ago
@Eric2827 eat a dick white boy, move if you dont like us, move way fucking far away. back to europe
christianz2010 10 months ago
@christianz2010
eat your dads dick and his burrito, you mexican fag,
go back to mexico you illegal cunt. LEAVE THE FUCKING COUNTRY. one less fucker to breathe american air.
klacfyde 10 months ago
@klacfyde GO BACK TO EUROPE FUCKING INBREED RED NECK
christianz2010 10 months ago
another civil war or worse because our police and government aren't inforceing the laws. They come here demanding that we bend over backwards for them and accomidate them because their countries are falling to crap. Why don't you do things the legal way instead of taking advantage of legal residents and taking our jobs. How about for once a job ad says "Must know English" instead of your language. It's complete B.S
GeminiAuntie 1 year ago
I love how everyone likes to treat American's like shit when they're the ones running to us for help all the time and pouring into our borders...I also have Cherokee in me so you illgeals can't even sit there and say I'm not even native to this land. Yes the land was stolen from native americans, but two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't matter what our ancestors did. We're in the here and now. What they did is irrelevant and in the past. This is the here and now and we're on our way to
GeminiAuntie 1 year ago
OMG shegot burned. I would of turned her in and saw to it she got deported. Don't call me a white racist. You should be deported if your any race and here illegally idiots. Just most illegal immigrants are Latino. I don't hate latinos. My pastor is Hispanic. He was born in Cuba and came here legally./Many of these illegal immigrants seem racist.
TheConservativesrock 1 year ago
@TheConservativesrock oh and before you start saying oh your ancestors came here illegally. No, not all of them. I have Cherokee in me. Also, the Native Americans were defeated in war. WAR. You want that? I don't. So don't compare yourselves to Pilgrims.
TheConservativesrock 1 year ago
hahaha this fucken white trash got told dumb fuck
CaliGsup 1 year ago
fuk u white fukker talk to me dat way let see wat will happened to u faggett haha u white fukk er go fukk urself
CHINOVILLEZCAS 1 year ago
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@CHINOVILLEZCAS SHUT UP YOU RACIST!!!!!!!!!
TheConservativesrock 1 year ago
@CHINOVILLEZCAS squish
mkeulr 1 year ago
fuk u white fukker talk to me dat way let see wat will happened to u faggett
CHINOVILLEZCAS 1 year ago
welcome to my country lol!! bitch this is also my country motherfucker!! fuck you you racist motherfucker!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
The camera guy needs to catch a few canadians, russians, vietnamese & chinese illegals to be legit. I dont like villifying Latinos all the time. Its about laws & borders, not race.
USAFORMERUSMC 1 year ago
@USAFORMERUSMC he only targets latinos not asians, europeans, africans, etc.!! fuckin racist motherfucker!! he always sends me messages calling me an anchor baby calling us spics etc. lol!!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
@TruSmokka13 ~ He must be leaving those comments on your personal page because I havent seen any racial slurs from him yet. What I do see is too much anti-usa banter from people who want to stay here. They want to change my country into some 3rd world toilet. Most Americans just want to preserve their (the way they perceive it) American lifestyle. It wouldnt be any different if the US came over to Mexico and did the same thing. Its not a racial thing, its a border thing.
USAFORMERUSMC 1 year ago
Typical 3rd world person who doesn't respect the laws.
murfdasurfer 1 year ago
the dude speaking sounds like a fuckin cartoon!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
you cant deport us all!!:) fuck all you stupid gringos!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
@TruSmokka13 Don't need to. Just have the employment laws enforced every now and then w/ some occasional migra raids, and most of you will scatter like roaches.
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
@DerailAmnestydotcom you will never get rid of us!! we are here to stay!!! brown pride!! fuck all you racist motherfuckers!! we didnt cross the border the border crossed us!!:):) you illuminati supporting bitch!! people like you make the world a fucked up place!!! fuck you bitch!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
@TruSmokka13 Interesting response. Yell "brown pride" and then complain of racism. Thanks for the idea. Think I'll a Quarter Pounder Combo at McDonald's and then give a speech about the woes of poor dietary habits.
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
@DerailAmnestydotcom shut your racist mouth you punk racist bitch!! brown pride motherfucker!! im here in amerikkka and theres nothing you can do about it bitch!!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
@TruSmokka13 You did it again. You're a wonderful walking contradiction. A racist who decries racism. Unreal.
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
@DerailAmnestydotcom im not racist you are bitch!!! you dont like mexicans!! you hide your racism by saying you dislike illegal immigrants!!! deep down inside you dont like mexicans!! calling mexican american anchor babies and shit!! fuck you motherfucker!! the fruit that you eat is picked by an illegal immigrant bitch!!
TruSmokka13 1 year ago
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DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
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@TruSmokka13 @TruSmokka13 No, "deep down inside" I'm chuckling at your dilemma. You want to complain about racist discrimination but can't stop hollering about "brown pride" and "gringos." Actually, I take that back. It's not very deep down inside. My laughing at your hypocritical nonsense is pretty superficial because I've heard hundreds of moderately educated Mexican illegal aliens or anchor babies do the same thing. Thanks for posting!
DerailAmnestydotcom 1 year ago
ahahah gringos pendejos
X4SerioX4ese 1 year ago
hahahahahaha....u guys make me laugh.....dont waste ur time!!! illegals r here to stay!you dont c not white of black ppl in la piska! we r the ones that support u guys!! u dont c no white or balck person doin a mexicans job....u guys r u fuckin lazy!! MEXICANS!!!!!!!!!! VIVA LA RASA!!!!!!
beautybylupe69 1 year ago
@beautybylupe69 Your grammar makes me weep for the future, please do not reproduce.
SmokeyCough 1 year ago
She looks like ET's grandma.
clash360 1 year ago
just remember an old bitch like will get amnesty, if the liberals have teir way
Arif21 1 year ago
illegal ppl stand up hahaha im illegal too what you gonna do about it lmao
pifkf 1 year ago
@pifkf If you lose you job cutting grass, your ass will go back. Fl. getting ready to pass laws tougher than AZ. When you leave, Obama may be going with you.
rocklovely47 1 year ago
God forgive you... we are humans too. it is sad to see this kind of things but it is more ironic to see immigrants talking about immigrants...
SuperLostboy13 1 year ago
@SuperLostboy13 Do you understand thge word "illegal"?
rocklovely47 1 year ago
@SuperLostboy13 I am not an Immigrant, I was born in the USA. I am not an anchor baby.
rick7531 1 year ago
douchebag
donniebrasco24 1 year ago
what is that guy doing at the end of the video...AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Robygol89 1 year ago
"you should have more respect for an american citizen who pays taxes and makers your life possible..." SO RIGHT...
Robygol89 1 year ago
She says that she has the right to free speech, and you agreed with her. You were wrong. She is a self proclaimed illegal immigrant, so SHE HAS NO RIGHTS. And... Its nice to see that she learned the most important English words.
stevenut69 1 year ago
So I have 1 question, so if all illegal aliens magically went back to there country, exactly that would happen? ill tell u what I would due, I'd grab myself a lawn chair, a cooler full of some ice cold bud's, and watch this mother fucker with the camera cry like a little bitch, wishing all the illegal aliens would come back and due the hard agricultural labor, that not 1 "white person" is willing to due, I know I sure as hell don't wanna due it!
kanserstyx 1 year ago
@kanserstyx I think we will find out what would happen. It's beginning to happen now. They are leaving Az. by the thousands.
rocklovely47 1 year ago
@rocklovely47 im in Yuma Az atm, and i dont see anyone going anywhere!
kanserstyx 1 year ago