Shame some people were reborn stupider than they were the first time. I think anyone who has been interacting with a delusion, eg; god, devil or magic dragons, probably needs simply to, cut out substance usage or visit with a mental health specialist and get diagnosed and medicated, for they most likely have chemical imbalance in their brain.
This is the whole purpose of Life. You are born into exist by the Will of God, you are formed by God in your mothers womb, God brings you into the world and gives your first breath of life and from that moment the sinful nature of which your parents passed on to you drives you away from God as Adam hid from God in the Garden of Eden. God now commands men to repent and to reconcile themselves to Him through His Son Jesus Christ who died and paid your sin debt which condemns you
@JesusNonEnviromental Being all powerful, all knowing, etc... does not make you instantly all loving, god MADE the universal law that NOTHING FINITE can equate to INFINITE, this is all reasoning based from HIS creation jackass! HE is not able to send me to hell for eternity for even 10 trillion crimes and call himself just and be right about that, that is an UNDENIABLE FACT! So if you continue with "he chose the rule" then his rules follow LOWER morality lmao! this is undeniable!
@JPO1618 The evidence is your sinful desires which you know are wrong yet you take pleasure in them anyway. The evidence is that you do have guilt because Adam and Eve both ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil so you have a contrast of two powers at war with one another
@JesusNonEnviromental I DO have a contrast of two powers at war with each other - just not the magical ones that you have in mind. We, of all of the animals, have the ability to surpass and suppress our basic animal desires.
However knowledge in not sinful. And Adam and Eve is just an adapted story made up to explain things that ancients didn't understand. It is allegorical, so Adam and Eve have NO direct effect on any of our lives - at least no more than darth vader.
@JPO1618 "Because your god wants us ignorant," ?? Toilet paper wasn't even invented until the 7th Century so Im assuming you still think human intelligence is something to boast. I shall reign with Christ who invented the cosmos while you can reign with humans who thought the hand was sufficient for wiping after defecating.
@JesusNonEnviromental Exactly my point: toilet paper didn't come from god, but from humans. Why denigrate humans when it is humans who are responsible for introducing us to things like medicine and art and technology. It is humans that increased our life spans, that allowed women to survive childbirth, and saved millions of children's lives.
You shall reign with Christ - who was one of those "humans who thought the hand was sufficient for wiping after defecating."
@JPO1618 There is nothing good in humans thats why I denigrate them because its the Truth. You believe the Lie that men are good by nature and that men could love one another if given the perfect world scenario. Read world history and read your papers today. The world is marching to battle and rattling their sabers for blood and those who are governing are shooting their citizens in the streets or imprisoning them. Keep dreaming and I keep believing
@JesusNonEnviromental When did I say that humans (not just "men") are good by nature? Nature is bloody and savage and cruel, and so we should expect to see that reflected in us, as a part of nature, as well. But we are beautiful amazing, intricate and fascinating creatures. We can create and appreciate art and the cosmos, we can love, we can work towards improving our world for our children.It is sad how lowly you value life, is it because of religion that you feel this?
@JPO1618 I value Life and that is why I bow to the Source of all Life and His name is Jesus Christ. Those who are not in Christ are perishing, but to those in Christ their life is eternal and abundant and they shall "never" die. This life is temporal and the world we see today is reserved for judgement by Fire, but there is a New Kingdom which shall appear afterwards that shall never end and we shall ever be with the Lord Amen
@JesusNonEnviromental But the reasons that you believe these things are because of what is written in a book full of contradictions that (I am assuming) you were raised and indoctrinated to believe to be true. And that is the only reason that you are repeating these phrases that you have heard in church all you life. But that is not evidence enough to convince someone who is properly skeptical
@JPO1618 Wrong, I didn't become a true believer until I was 25 and Im now 50 and my faith has grown from an acorn to an oak that now produces acorns. I experienced what is called being "born again" and its this infusion of the Holy Spirit into my spirit that gives me this new faith that I didnt have prior. I was no more spiritual than you and just as much a skeptic but when God calls you're changed forever. You have yet to meet your creator, but when He calls you will be overwhelmed
@JesusNonEnviromental this can also be called delusion, but hey if your happy this way, some people dont need the truth to be happy, they can be happy in total delusion, who am i to tell you right, i just hope my child and the next generation learn to be happy with the reality.
wishfull thinking, dream of apocalypse, and judgment day, all that crap will not give any reason for the futur generation to save this planet and to make it a good place to live for evryone,
@JesusNonEnviromental you do realise your just repeating a story that youve heard and really dont have a clue of what is coming these are fact, you dont know, your like a perrot that repeat a story heard, and giving you a different born place,you would probably repeat a other story, the islam one, from the qran, what you beleive to be truth is the result of your indoctrination, think about it a minute, use the brain,you would beleive exactly the same about allah, if youd be borne in saudi arabia
@JesusNonEnviromental If God is real, and also this loving great-guy-kinda-thing, then why did he allow us to believe - in fact he ENCOURAGED us to believe - that things like epilepsy and disease were caused by demons? If Jesus had only told people about bacteria and viruses millions of lives could have been saved; and yet he lied to us (this is, of course, assuming the basic Christian tenets).
There is only one thing in the universe that transcends all other things and that is "Faith" Without "Faith" no man shall see God and its by "Faith" that all men live their lives. One man believes there is a God and another man believes there is no God and they will live their lives accordingly. The one who believes there is no God shall be granted eternal Hell where God does not show Himself and the other shall live in the presence of God forever.
@JesusNonEnviromental What a horrible idea: To worship a god who punishes ETERNALLY simply for the reasonable position of not believing without evidence. Does that really seem right to you?
'Without "Faith" no man shall see God' - so one need have faith in god in order for god to reveal itself? That's a little circular don't you think?
@JPO1618 But you believe He doesn't exist without evidence. God has given all men the evidence that He exists by coming in the form of a man and His name is Jesus Christ. The bible is the eyewitness account of his miracles which proved His deity and His Resurrection from the Dead gives me all the evidence that He has power over death. Because God has revealed Himself and men hated Him, He know must elect men to salvation by giving them His Spirit so that sinful men can love Him.
@JesusNonEnviromental Just as I don't believe that faeries exist without evidence (or dragons or flying teapots or spaghetti monsters). The bible is NOT an eyewitness account and almost all theologians agree. How can an ancient text of questionable authorship and countless internal contradictions be one's sole source for evidence? That is not nearly enough for me.
@JesusNonEnviromental You say "God has revealed Himself and men hated Him" , then god should have done a better job at revealing himself. With all of the powers god is supposed to have, he should have anticipated the men would hate him - since he apparently made them in his image. He also might have done better if the people he chose to reveal himself to weren't the most bass-ackward, illiterate shepherds.
@JPO1618 You hate Him as well. You can neither explain your hate or rationalize it, but it is still how you feel because Man has a fallen nature due to the sin of Adam. You don't love God because man loves Sin and cannot love Darkness and Light at the sametime because they're opposing opposites. You love the one and therefore you hate the other. That is why Christians are saved by "Grace" that means their salvation is unmerited and unearned.
@JesusNonEnviromental And you know all of this about me how? How can one hate what one doesn't believe in? It must be interesting in that black-and-white world that you live in. You claim that I love "Sin" and "Darkness", but without reason. Adam wasn't a real person, and even if he was, punishing someone because of the sins of their father is incredibly immoral and not to be respected - I don't need a book to tell me that!
@JPO1618 I hate to break the bad news but there are no special men, just men. We are all born with the same nature and the same appetite for sin and self. If you are different is it merely in what variety of sin you take pleasure in, but all sin leads to death. I know you because I know myself and there is nothing new under the sun. You are walking in the same footsteps and down the same paths as a billion men before you and your thoughts are as common as the suns rising.
@JesusNonEnviromental Seriously sir i wish i would have found this months ago... what your insinuating is their is no free will... and that even if you believe and accept jesus, you are only doing it for sinful reasons... if you disagree you accept the ideas of free will which is a contradiction to an ALL knowing god, an all knowing god cannot exist if their is free will... and if you disagree with the whole accepting jesus for sinful reasons, you are insinuating not all humans choose sin...
@IronicAtheist What is Free Will? You couldn't possible define it or its limits or its abilities. Free Will can only exist in a person who is not in bondage or slave to another entity like sinful desires which the bible clearly states that men are slave to sin. Free Will would need to be cognizant of all choices and knowledge to make all decisions freely or else he is limited by ignorance. Men are described as sheep that need a shepherd because they have no ability to govern themselves
@JesusNonEnviromental Well then, your god rigged this game, we lose it because he made it so... he made it so we have EVERYTHING to us... every tool in our arsenal he gave us to be able to use... he knows everything so he caused what we do, we didn't consent HE did, and ONLY he consented to sin, which btw, if a creator that is infinite exists, evil is unnecessary nuff said... don't say he didn't cause it he set up all the requirements for it to play out this way and to ONLY play out this way...
@IronicAtheist Yes, it is Gods world and design, that is why we concede it to be true and we come to Him for guidance and to be lead of Him and not ourselves. God did not make us to be nomads to wonder aimlessly but children who need a Father and sinners who need a Savior and sheep that need a shepherd. When you realize that all things are because of God and for God then you will take your rightful position as a follower and servant of the Most High God Jesus Christ
@JesusNonEnviromental So not only is god a tyrant but since we can't do anything about it we should choose to respect and worship him. If you believe what your saying, god is the ONLY true consent, and therefore we never chose sin, god did and therefore he is the ONLY real immorality. Causing something is to be guilty of it, and to fully consent to it is to be imposed of the immorality that choice implies.
"You hate Him as well. You can neither explain your hate or rationalize it, but it is still how you feel"
We don't hate the jesus character in the bible. There's just no reason to believe he was a god. But if he is the same god as in the Torah, then I do find him despicable and vile! The OT god was a murderous psychopath, who had a penchant for killing children! I'd never respect, much less worship such a tyrant.
I can see you are hopelessly deluded...or brainwashed.
@Cootabux Obviously you have no reverence or fear of God. God can destroy that which He has created because all life exists for His purpose. We are created, He is not created, He is far above all our understanding and knowledge so we speak in Ignorance when we try to judge God. No man can judge because He is perfect and mans ability to think and judge and discern comes from God. How can the thing created ever deny its creator anything because everything is rightfully His.
@JPO1618 No, you are not Gods slave, I am. You do not exist to God until you are a believer in His Son. God will cast any person who denies the Lordship of Christ into an eternal punishment because they refused Gods love and chose His Wrath.
@JesusNonEnviromental NO choice we make can JUSTIFIABLY deserve an eternal punishment... Simply put we are NOT eternal so anything we do here does NOT equate eternal punishment. So even if god exists and sends me to hell, he was eternally and infinitely immoral FACTUALLY and UNDENIABLY no matter what! Thus is not someone I'd chill with >.>
@IronicAtheist Yes, your reasoning would be true if this were your creation or if creation existed for your pleasure and purposes, but they are Gods. God is King, Lord, The Supreme Majesty on High and maker of the Heavens and Earth with no beginning or end and you are a mere mortal made from the dust of the ground and stand in defiance of Him. You shall see God in eternity as your Loving Heavenly Father or your Judge and Jury. Come to Jesus for reconcilation with God and chill
"The bible is the eyewitness account of his miracles which proved His deity and His Resurrection from the Dead gives me all the evidence that He has power over death."
The bible is not an eye witness account of anything. Don't u know about the forgeries in the NT? The resurrection is the very thing that denies there was a sacrifice on the cross!! Don't u realize the failure of the very claim of a sacrifice of jesus on the cross?
"The one who believes there is no God shall be granted eternal Hell where God does not show Himself and the other shall live in the presence of God forever."
Then the god you worship, or grovel to, is evil beyond evil!
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this evil god exists...if you can prove what you say in your post.
Btw, I can prove the Abrahamic god is evil by scripture alone. Would you like me to prove my claim to you??
Literary critic and novelist James Wood, without believing in God, says that belief in God "is a good deal more reasonable than belief in a teapot" because God is a "grand and big idea" which "is not analogically disproved by reference to celestial teapots or vacuum cleaners, which lack the necessary bigness and grandeur" and "because God cannot be reified, cannot be turned into a mere thing".
Humankind first domesticated plants and animals and began the settled agricultural existence around 8,000 BC, when the last ice age came to an end.
So civilization has had about 10,000 years to devote some of its surplus time to sort out the difference between the way the world really is and the fairytale fantasies about how people used to think it is. Ten thousand god damned years of hate, anger, and violence based on fairy tales.
@wolfj171 its carl sagans metaphore for the lack of evidence that god exist. The dragon is god and the owner of the dragon is someone who believes in god and the person who comes over to see the dragon is someone who doesnt believe god
I nether support this nor reject it, i simply say. it should make one think. i hope you understand what im saying, and it should make one think on both sides of the spectrum
Hear the words of Jesus spoken to the Pharisees (unbelievers), You can neither hear my words or believe on my name because you are not of my Father, you are of your father Satan and he you will hear and believe. Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior and God is not a choice of conscience or intellect, it is a gift from God a gift of faith to those chosen before they were even born. Christian salvation is not ones volition, it is a supernature rebirth of a mans spirit by God
@JesusNonEnviromental and what prof do you have for that? how do you know that Allah is not the real salvation or that Krishna is the real one? what evidence do you have that prov that you are right? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is the way the real world works. if you can't prov what your saying, then we can't believe anything you say. so where is your prof?
How distasteful is this truth to you now? I have given you measurable means to find the omnipotent. Proof is objective. Yet, as always, persuasion is subjective. There is no proof I can give that will force itself upon your subjective will. If you want to go on living with an irrational worldview, then I can't stop you. Yet neither you, nor any other pop-atheist hypocrite will EVER accuse me of being without reason. Ever.
@Paulomycin who's irrational? The one that sees no proof of a fairy, or the one that believes in the fairy, worships the fairy and says that the proof is right there, you just have to experience the fairy?
1. The argument leads with a proposed serious assertion of one material entity within another. Regardless of whether the dragon is real or not, it is initially presented as a real material being.
2. The dragon gets progressively more immaterial as the analogy develops.
3. So then the audience is mislead. Thus, the analogy is a false one. Is the theist supposed to provide materialist proof of a material entity. or an immaterial one? Hence, it's a trick question. Get it?
@Paulomycin At no point are the attributes of a dragon explicit. Your disappointment with my dragon mirrors my disappointment with the gods of others: MUCH IS LACKING!
Let's say that you tell me there is a god. I ask you to show me your god; you say that he is invisible. I ask for other evidence of your god's existence, and everywhere you turn you find that, the closer you look, the more you realize that evidence for a 'god' is nowhere in the picture.
The point is, you're being deliberately vague about the term "god." My definition of God is "an omnipotent being." Omnipotent beings aren't limited to form. Russell's teapot and the dragon in your garage are limited to forms. You only make it worse by asking for "evidence," because you really mean "empiricism-only" evidence. So you should be honest with your materialist bias up front.
@Paulomycin "Omnipotent beings aren't limited to form." And where is this law of the universe? You are imposing your own hopes and views of what god is or could be on him. Have you really thought through your omnipotence idea here? Do I need to ask about the paradox of the stone or the burrito microwaved so hot that jesus himself could not eat it.
My point is the very concept of your god's one attribute is paradoxical. So why should I believe then?
J: [And where is this law of the universe?] Then you're not being honest with the term "omnipotence." I am arguing to a being that pre-exists spacetime itself. If pre-existent, then omnipotent by default. "Omni" = "All." I'm not imposing anything; you're simply not paying attention to the context of the logic process. And yes, the omnipotence paradox has been answered already.
@JPO1618 See, omnipotence isn't a trait that allows for the absurd; only mastery of the whole of spacetime. I'm still arguing from within logic itself.
The question: "Can God make a rock so big that He can't lift it?" is both illogical and dishonest to the attribute of omnipotence as simply defined. You cannot logically exceed infinity. Does that therefore cancel out infinity? No, of course not. Same goes for the ruler of "all things" being "all powerful."
@Paulomycin Ohhh, I see what you did there. Very clever. However, this attribute of omnipotence that you give to your god, this is a power given to other gods too; how can you know that you aren't worshiping them one of them instead? What makes you think that your god is all-powerful? Does it say somewhere that he is? Has he saved all of those who believe in him from pain and sadness? Has he wiped the earth of disease? or war?
J: [. . .how can you know that you aren't worshiping them one of them instead?] They're all quite easy to eliminate in sequence, actually. Omnipotence assumes the sub-attributes of omniscience and omnipresence. So for example, Odin is the son of Borr, thus not self-existent and therefore not omnipresent. This automatically takes out Thor as well. . .(cont).
@JPO1618 (cont) The same goes for the God of the LDS. According to their doctrine, he has a body of flesh and bone, which limits him to form. Thus, not omnipresent. This same god can also be surprised, since he is unaware of the faithful until the end. Thus, not omniscient. A mere claim to these traits is not enough.
J: [What makes you think that your god is all-powerful?] It's a flanking argument from 2 directions. The first is on my channel homepage. If intent is the explanation of 1st cause, then "intent" is omnipotent by default. That's deism. The deist model of the nature of God does not contradict Christianity. It's only a question of level of involvement. (cont)
@JPO1618 (cont) The second argument is stacked on the certainty of the existence of an omnipotent being. To put it briefly, if God is omnipotent, then God is perfectly self-aware. This self-awareness creates a duality between God and God's living knowledge of self (which matches the Logos of John 1). This duality is equal in being and perfect in harmony. So much so, that they have a living relationship between them that is also equal. This is a secular Trinitarian model.
@Paulomycin ..."This duality is equal in being and perfect in harmony..." This all sounds like blah-blah-blah-yakkity-schmackity to me. So much rationalizing to match some long-defunct notions of the universe.
J: [This all sounds like blah-blah-blah-yakkity-schmackity to me.] ARGUMENT TO PERSONAL INCREDULITY! If you had perfect knowledge of yourself, you would know your own location from anywhere in the universe. Thus, dualism. You're too chicken to look into it further, so you skirt the shallow end. If you claim to be open-minded, then do so. Otherwise, wallow in your dogma of scientism.
@JPO1618 Not rationalizing. Logic stacks. If you can concede one logical absolute, you can prove God. If you don't, or if you avoid doing so, then that's your misology.
J: [Does it say somewhere that he is?] Since logic is math-based, you can know for a certainty that logic itself requires a logician (a rational absolute). Thus, logic is not limited to man, but is instead transcendent. If logic were limited to man alone, then logic would be mutable. But that is absurd. Thus logic is transcendent. The law of causality applies to the entire universe. Thus, whatever is responsible for 1st cause is omnipotent by default.
@JPO1618 I'm only arguing to what we (you and I) do know. Please try to follow along. See my channel homepage on this. Through pure logic, as well as process of elimination, you can rule out chance and infinite regress. This leaves only one possibility: Intent, purpose, design, etc. Your declaration of everything that happens prior to spacetime is arbitrary. You simply refuse to work with what information you do have before you. Deny it and you embrace misology.
@JPO1618 Also, I like how hypocritical Sagan can be when he's so into SETI on one hand, but on the other, the extraterrestrial life in question absolutely must fit his materialist bias. Answer me this: Why can't the SETI end in a message imprinted within DNA? Why MUST the extraterrestrial in question be non-omnipotent? Why CAN'T the extraterrestrial emerge from outside spacetime? Because you fallaciously live in a closed and irrational universe, that's why.
J: [Where is all of this power?] I am arguing to the entire universe. Which, when examined, is the sum-total of all effects. So the power you are claiming ignorance of here, is truly staggering.
Your previous questions sum up the moral argument against God. But which god are you referring to? If the God of the Bible, then I'd say you must first deal with an extant God before jumping ahead to the moral argument. One thing is true. An omniscient God is not absurd and cannot lie.
@JPO1618 But if you are arguing to the God of the Bible, then the Bible clearly states that all pain, sadness, disease, war, hatred, death, and other moral negatives are entirely man's fault. The Bible also clearly states that mankind will be preserved as a species.
@JPO1618 See, your arguments pretty much amount to, "Your beliefs are absurd and irrational because they conflict with empiricism, materialism, and scientism." Yet I reject all 3 on rational grounds. For one thing, logic itself is non-falsifiable. Do you then REJECT math-based logic? Proof is objective. Persuasion is subjective. Logic is objective.
excuse me but i'm not a quitter. i have never quit anything in my life. except a few things. at the end of teh day, u know i am right. no inventor was ever a skeptic. u have to have lots of crazy ideas of hypotheses if u want one of them to be right. lol. additionally the quantum mechanical nature of the universe allows for lots of correct answers, lol. u know i am right. even if ur mind won't let u admit it.
ur not right cos u think u are right Japeo. U need to provide evidence. do u even know about epistomology or ontoloy or the huge debates on this subject? ur being nothing but an arrogant cunt! your speciality! being an arrogant cunt!!! how do u know our visual senses can record everything. do u even know what the electromagnetic spectrum is?!
@thecosmicmechanism I think you are incorrect in that statement. First you must define what ghosts are made of, and if they generate heat, or absorb warmth. A thermal imaging camera detects the variance of the thermal radiance of an object, typically matter, which does include water and hot gases.You cannot just pick up a TIC (Thermal Imaging Camera) and know the intricacies of it. You have to take classes and be certified to minimize false readings or misinterpretations, which is not hard to do
I'm the real skeptic, cos i know how to be skeptical of so called scientists. u do not. u blindly accept everything. i have discovered the difference between us. check this out.
`PseudoSkeptic' = Believes in human authority.
Real Skeptic = Acknowledges humans have limitations in understanding.
`pseudoscience' = unpaid science.
`Science' = paid position.
u can't refute that. science is mainly done by paid whores. but less useful than prostitutes in all likelyhood. don't take any of it off pls
In 5 years I will be the world's leading pseudoscientist when i get this bastard degree out of the way. Cos i know that science starts from philosophy and pseudosicnece. U don't. I will publish. I already have supporters saying they want to read my book and will buy it when it comes out. I have proven the existence of an ancient tradition of weather mapping which combines with electric universe to fascilitate a greater understanding of global warming cooling patters.
if astrology doesn't work how do u explain the mars effect. have u even heard of the mars effect? are you even interested in researching the mars effect? NOPE!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
@JPO1618@TheCosmicShield - It's tough to argue with this Cosmicshield, after all he has almost completed his undergraduate work in Bastardology. This guy is oblivious.
one more thing. michiu kaku just said ufos exist. now that's michiu and hawking, LOL! looks like everyone is leaving skepticism since it simply doesn't take u anywhere? LOL sorry but it's the truth man and u said u want the truth. skepticism = philosophy. philosophy does not really advance in 2000 years. know what else allegedly doen't advance? that's right, pseudoscience dont' advance either. we have a winner.
@TheCosmicShield "...michiu and hawking" - Even if these men were to assert that aliens had landed in their backyard and were now bunking in their spare room, I, and other skeptics, would respond the same way as with the dragon: "Show me." Show me evidence that your claim is worthy of consideration.
It is too bad that you misunderstand skepticism so completely, since you use it, although improperly, in your beliefs about global warming, science, etc.
i wasn't gonna annoy u with any more comments. i'm taking a long break from utube but i just popped in to say, isn't this a straw man argument? Is it really right to compare theistic arguments with dragons or santa? God is an explanation for the universe. Dragon is an explanation for nothing. That's why god is used in the first place and dragon isn't. It's an untestable hypothesis. But it explains things for many people. Can we really assert theists are speaking of dragons? apples and oranges
@TheCosmicShield This isn't an argument specifically against theism, it works for any claim. The point is, yes it's an "untestable hypothesis", and therefore I have no reason for believing it. Without evidence, the best that I can say is that the current evidence does not point to a dragon, but if more evidence comes in in the future, I will examine it with an open mind but also with the weight of evidence currently against it. God explains nothing that science does not
i know some creationist now beleive there is dragon in garages because of this video, hahaha
lapmarty 1 month ago
Shame some people were reborn stupider than they were the first time. I think anyone who has been interacting with a delusion, eg; god, devil or magic dragons, probably needs simply to, cut out substance usage or visit with a mental health specialist and get diagnosed and medicated, for they most likely have chemical imbalance in their brain.
JUDYUful 1 month ago
This is the whole purpose of Life. You are born into exist by the Will of God, you are formed by God in your mothers womb, God brings you into the world and gives your first breath of life and from that moment the sinful nature of which your parents passed on to you drives you away from God as Adam hid from God in the Garden of Eden. God now commands men to repent and to reconcile themselves to Him through His Son Jesus Christ who died and paid your sin debt which condemns you
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Being all powerful, all knowing, etc... does not make you instantly all loving, god MADE the universal law that NOTHING FINITE can equate to INFINITE, this is all reasoning based from HIS creation jackass! HE is not able to send me to hell for eternity for even 10 trillion crimes and call himself just and be right about that, that is an UNDENIABLE FACT! So if you continue with "he chose the rule" then his rules follow LOWER morality lmao! this is undeniable!
IronicAtheist 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental And the evidence you have for this is where?
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 The evidence is your sinful desires which you know are wrong yet you take pleasure in them anyway. The evidence is that you do have guilt because Adam and Eve both ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil so you have a contrast of two powers at war with one another
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental I DO have a contrast of two powers at war with each other - just not the magical ones that you have in mind. We, of all of the animals, have the ability to surpass and suppress our basic animal desires.
However knowledge in not sinful. And Adam and Eve is just an adapted story made up to explain things that ancients didn't understand. It is allegorical, so Adam and Eve have NO direct effect on any of our lives - at least no more than darth vader.
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 You have created your own universe, That was the lie told to Eve, " ..you shall become as God" You bit the apple my friend
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental ...the figurative apple, yes. Because your god wants us ignorant, which is about as non-loving as I can think of.
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 "Because your god wants us ignorant," ?? Toilet paper wasn't even invented until the 7th Century so Im assuming you still think human intelligence is something to boast. I shall reign with Christ who invented the cosmos while you can reign with humans who thought the hand was sufficient for wiping after defecating.
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Exactly my point: toilet paper didn't come from god, but from humans. Why denigrate humans when it is humans who are responsible for introducing us to things like medicine and art and technology. It is humans that increased our life spans, that allowed women to survive childbirth, and saved millions of children's lives.
You shall reign with Christ - who was one of those "humans who thought the hand was sufficient for wiping after defecating."
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 There is nothing good in humans thats why I denigrate them because its the Truth. You believe the Lie that men are good by nature and that men could love one another if given the perfect world scenario. Read world history and read your papers today. The world is marching to battle and rattling their sabers for blood and those who are governing are shooting their citizens in the streets or imprisoning them. Keep dreaming and I keep believing
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental When did I say that humans (not just "men") are good by nature? Nature is bloody and savage and cruel, and so we should expect to see that reflected in us, as a part of nature, as well. But we are beautiful amazing, intricate and fascinating creatures. We can create and appreciate art and the cosmos, we can love, we can work towards improving our world for our children.It is sad how lowly you value life, is it because of religion that you feel this?
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 I value Life and that is why I bow to the Source of all Life and His name is Jesus Christ. Those who are not in Christ are perishing, but to those in Christ their life is eternal and abundant and they shall "never" die. This life is temporal and the world we see today is reserved for judgement by Fire, but there is a New Kingdom which shall appear afterwards that shall never end and we shall ever be with the Lord Amen
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental But the reasons that you believe these things are because of what is written in a book full of contradictions that (I am assuming) you were raised and indoctrinated to believe to be true. And that is the only reason that you are repeating these phrases that you have heard in church all you life. But that is not evidence enough to convince someone who is properly skeptical
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 Wrong, I didn't become a true believer until I was 25 and Im now 50 and my faith has grown from an acorn to an oak that now produces acorns. I experienced what is called being "born again" and its this infusion of the Holy Spirit into my spirit that gives me this new faith that I didnt have prior. I was no more spiritual than you and just as much a skeptic but when God calls you're changed forever. You have yet to meet your creator, but when He calls you will be overwhelmed
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental this can also be called delusion, but hey if your happy this way, some people dont need the truth to be happy, they can be happy in total delusion, who am i to tell you right, i just hope my child and the next generation learn to be happy with the reality.
wishfull thinking, dream of apocalypse, and judgment day, all that crap will not give any reason for the futur generation to save this planet and to make it a good place to live for evryone,
lapmarty 1 month ago
@JesusNonEnviromental you do realise your just repeating a story that youve heard and really dont have a clue of what is coming these are fact, you dont know, your like a perrot that repeat a story heard, and giving you a different born place,you would probably repeat a other story, the islam one, from the qran, what you beleive to be truth is the result of your indoctrination, think about it a minute, use the brain,you would beleive exactly the same about allah, if youd be borne in saudi arabia
lapmarty 1 month ago
@JesusNonEnviromental If God is real, and also this loving great-guy-kinda-thing, then why did he allow us to believe - in fact he ENCOURAGED us to believe - that things like epilepsy and disease were caused by demons? If Jesus had only told people about bacteria and viruses millions of lives could have been saved; and yet he lied to us (this is, of course, assuming the basic Christian tenets).
JPO1618 2 months ago
There is only one thing in the universe that transcends all other things and that is "Faith" Without "Faith" no man shall see God and its by "Faith" that all men live their lives. One man believes there is a God and another man believes there is no God and they will live their lives accordingly. The one who believes there is no God shall be granted eternal Hell where God does not show Himself and the other shall live in the presence of God forever.
JesusNonEnviromental 5 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental What a horrible idea: To worship a god who punishes ETERNALLY simply for the reasonable position of not believing without evidence. Does that really seem right to you?
'Without "Faith" no man shall see God' - so one need have faith in god in order for god to reveal itself? That's a little circular don't you think?
JPO1618 5 months ago
@JPO1618 But you believe He doesn't exist without evidence. God has given all men the evidence that He exists by coming in the form of a man and His name is Jesus Christ. The bible is the eyewitness account of his miracles which proved His deity and His Resurrection from the Dead gives me all the evidence that He has power over death. Because God has revealed Himself and men hated Him, He know must elect men to salvation by giving them His Spirit so that sinful men can love Him.
JesusNonEnviromental 5 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Just as I don't believe that faeries exist without evidence (or dragons or flying teapots or spaghetti monsters). The bible is NOT an eyewitness account and almost all theologians agree. How can an ancient text of questionable authorship and countless internal contradictions be one's sole source for evidence? That is not nearly enough for me.
JPO1618 5 months ago 3
@JesusNonEnviromental You say "God has revealed Himself and men hated Him" , then god should have done a better job at revealing himself. With all of the powers god is supposed to have, he should have anticipated the men would hate him - since he apparently made them in his image. He also might have done better if the people he chose to reveal himself to weren't the most bass-ackward, illiterate shepherds.
JPO1618 5 months ago
@JPO1618 You hate Him as well. You can neither explain your hate or rationalize it, but it is still how you feel because Man has a fallen nature due to the sin of Adam. You don't love God because man loves Sin and cannot love Darkness and Light at the sametime because they're opposing opposites. You love the one and therefore you hate the other. That is why Christians are saved by "Grace" that means their salvation is unmerited and unearned.
JesusNonEnviromental 5 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental And you know all of this about me how? How can one hate what one doesn't believe in? It must be interesting in that black-and-white world that you live in. You claim that I love "Sin" and "Darkness", but without reason. Adam wasn't a real person, and even if he was, punishing someone because of the sins of their father is incredibly immoral and not to be respected - I don't need a book to tell me that!
JPO1618 5 months ago
@JPO1618 I hate to break the bad news but there are no special men, just men. We are all born with the same nature and the same appetite for sin and self. If you are different is it merely in what variety of sin you take pleasure in, but all sin leads to death. I know you because I know myself and there is nothing new under the sun. You are walking in the same footsteps and down the same paths as a billion men before you and your thoughts are as common as the suns rising.
JesusNonEnviromental 5 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Seriously sir i wish i would have found this months ago... what your insinuating is their is no free will... and that even if you believe and accept jesus, you are only doing it for sinful reasons... if you disagree you accept the ideas of free will which is a contradiction to an ALL knowing god, an all knowing god cannot exist if their is free will... and if you disagree with the whole accepting jesus for sinful reasons, you are insinuating not all humans choose sin...
IronicAtheist 3 months ago
@IronicAtheist What is Free Will? You couldn't possible define it or its limits or its abilities. Free Will can only exist in a person who is not in bondage or slave to another entity like sinful desires which the bible clearly states that men are slave to sin. Free Will would need to be cognizant of all choices and knowledge to make all decisions freely or else he is limited by ignorance. Men are described as sheep that need a shepherd because they have no ability to govern themselves
JesusNonEnviromental 3 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Well then, your god rigged this game, we lose it because he made it so... he made it so we have EVERYTHING to us... every tool in our arsenal he gave us to be able to use... he knows everything so he caused what we do, we didn't consent HE did, and ONLY he consented to sin, which btw, if a creator that is infinite exists, evil is unnecessary nuff said... don't say he didn't cause it he set up all the requirements for it to play out this way and to ONLY play out this way...
IronicAtheist 3 months ago
@IronicAtheist Yes, it is Gods world and design, that is why we concede it to be true and we come to Him for guidance and to be lead of Him and not ourselves. God did not make us to be nomads to wonder aimlessly but children who need a Father and sinners who need a Savior and sheep that need a shepherd. When you realize that all things are because of God and for God then you will take your rightful position as a follower and servant of the Most High God Jesus Christ
JesusNonEnviromental 3 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental So not only is god a tyrant but since we can't do anything about it we should choose to respect and worship him. If you believe what your saying, god is the ONLY true consent, and therefore we never chose sin, god did and therefore he is the ONLY real immorality. Causing something is to be guilty of it, and to fully consent to it is to be imposed of the immorality that choice implies.
IronicAtheist 3 months ago
JesusNonEnviromental
"You hate Him as well. You can neither explain your hate or rationalize it, but it is still how you feel"
We don't hate the jesus character in the bible. There's just no reason to believe he was a god. But if he is the same god as in the Torah, then I do find him despicable and vile! The OT god was a murderous psychopath, who had a penchant for killing children! I'd never respect, much less worship such a tyrant.
I can see you are hopelessly deluded...or brainwashed.
Cootabux 2 months ago in playlist ROBERT G. INGERSOLL
@Cootabux Obviously you have no reverence or fear of God. God can destroy that which He has created because all life exists for His purpose. We are created, He is not created, He is far above all our understanding and knowledge so we speak in Ignorance when we try to judge God. No man can judge because He is perfect and mans ability to think and judge and discern comes from God. How can the thing created ever deny its creator anything because everything is rightfully His.
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Yeah! We are god's slaves and must do whatever our master asks of us. He owns us! If life were prison, we would be god's bitch!
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JPO1618 No, you are not Gods slave, I am. You do not exist to God until you are a believer in His Son. God will cast any person who denies the Lordship of Christ into an eternal punishment because they refused Gods love and chose His Wrath.
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental Your God sounds like a real asshole. Incidentally, I am not "choosing" anyone's Wrath.
JPO1618 2 months ago
@JesusNonEnviromental NO choice we make can JUSTIFIABLY deserve an eternal punishment... Simply put we are NOT eternal so anything we do here does NOT equate eternal punishment. So even if god exists and sends me to hell, he was eternally and infinitely immoral FACTUALLY and UNDENIABLY no matter what! Thus is not someone I'd chill with >.>
IronicAtheist 2 months ago
@IronicAtheist Yes, your reasoning would be true if this were your creation or if creation existed for your pleasure and purposes, but they are Gods. God is King, Lord, The Supreme Majesty on High and maker of the Heavens and Earth with no beginning or end and you are a mere mortal made from the dust of the ground and stand in defiance of Him. You shall see God in eternity as your Loving Heavenly Father or your Judge and Jury. Come to Jesus for reconcilation with God and chill
JesusNonEnviromental 2 months ago
JesusNonEnviromental
"The bible is the eyewitness account of his miracles which proved His deity and His Resurrection from the Dead gives me all the evidence that He has power over death."
The bible is not an eye witness account of anything. Don't u know about the forgeries in the NT? The resurrection is the very thing that denies there was a sacrifice on the cross!! Don't u realize the failure of the very claim of a sacrifice of jesus on the cross?
Cootabux 2 months ago in playlist ROBERT G. INGERSOLL
JesusNonEnviromental
"The one who believes there is no God shall be granted eternal Hell where God does not show Himself and the other shall live in the presence of God forever."
Then the god you worship, or grovel to, is evil beyond evil!
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that this evil god exists...if you can prove what you say in your post.
Btw, I can prove the Abrahamic god is evil by scripture alone. Would you like me to prove my claim to you??
Cootabux 2 months ago in playlist ROBERT G. INGERSOLL
Literary critic and novelist James Wood, without believing in God, says that belief in God "is a good deal more reasonable than belief in a teapot" because God is a "grand and big idea" which "is not analogically disproved by reference to celestial teapots or vacuum cleaners, which lack the necessary bigness and grandeur" and "because God cannot be reified, cannot be turned into a mere thing".
lulz4KoKane 6 months ago
Humankind first domesticated plants and animals and began the settled agricultural existence around 8,000 BC, when the last ice age came to an end.
So civilization has had about 10,000 years to devote some of its surplus time to sort out the difference between the way the world really is and the fairytale fantasies about how people used to think it is. Ten thousand god damned years of hate, anger, and violence based on fairy tales.
Then came YouTube!
Knossos22 9 months ago 9
weird ass random video i happened to click on... that the fuck..? is this
wolfj171 9 months ago
@wolfj171 its carl sagans metaphore for the lack of evidence that god exist. The dragon is god and the owner of the dragon is someone who believes in god and the person who comes over to see the dragon is someone who doesnt believe god
propilotcfi 9 months ago
@propilotcfi ooooh i see now
wolfj171 9 months ago
I nether support this nor reject it, i simply say. it should make one think. i hope you understand what im saying, and it should make one think on both sides of the spectrum
cbbcyouthablaze 1 year ago
LOL @ the comments on this thread. Nuts.
ccarr313 1 year ago
Hear the words of Jesus spoken to the Pharisees (unbelievers), You can neither hear my words or believe on my name because you are not of my Father, you are of your father Satan and he you will hear and believe. Believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior and God is not a choice of conscience or intellect, it is a gift from God a gift of faith to those chosen before they were even born. Christian salvation is not ones volition, it is a supernature rebirth of a mans spirit by God
JesusNonEnviromental 1 year ago
@JesusNonEnviromental and what prof do you have for that? how do you know that Allah is not the real salvation or that Krishna is the real one? what evidence do you have that prov that you are right? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is the way the real world works. if you can't prov what your saying, then we can't believe anything you say. so where is your prof?
franktastikart 5 months ago
Respond to this video... scientist have to proven what they say with evidence.. why can't you?
franktastikart 5 months ago
How distasteful is this truth to you now? I have given you measurable means to find the omnipotent. Proof is objective. Yet, as always, persuasion is subjective. There is no proof I can give that will force itself upon your subjective will. If you want to go on living with an irrational worldview, then I can't stop you. Yet neither you, nor any other pop-atheist hypocrite will EVER accuse me of being without reason. Ever.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin "Yet neither you, nor any other pop-atheist hypocrite will EVER accuse me of being without reason. Ever."
Have I done this somewhere?
pop-atheist hypocrite - I like it.
JPO1618 1 year ago
@JPO1618 Apologies for the tone. Individually, you have not accused me of being without reason. . .yet. =)
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin who's irrational? The one that sees no proof of a fairy, or the one that believes in the fairy, worships the fairy and says that the proof is right there, you just have to experience the fairy?
Vahtacen 11 months ago
1. The argument leads with a proposed serious assertion of one material entity within another. Regardless of whether the dragon is real or not, it is initially presented as a real material being.
2. The dragon gets progressively more immaterial as the analogy develops.
3. So then the audience is mislead. Thus, the analogy is a false one. Is the theist supposed to provide materialist proof of a material entity. or an immaterial one? Hence, it's a trick question. Get it?
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin At no point are the attributes of a dragon explicit. Your disappointment with my dragon mirrors my disappointment with the gods of others: MUCH IS LACKING!
Let's say that you tell me there is a god. I ask you to show me your god; you say that he is invisible. I ask for other evidence of your god's existence, and everywhere you turn you find that, the closer you look, the more you realize that evidence for a 'god' is nowhere in the picture.
Theists can provide material evidence?
JPO1618 1 year ago
The point is, you're being deliberately vague about the term "god." My definition of God is "an omnipotent being." Omnipotent beings aren't limited to form. Russell's teapot and the dragon in your garage are limited to forms. You only make it worse by asking for "evidence," because you really mean "empiricism-only" evidence. So you should be honest with your materialist bias up front.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin "Omnipotent beings aren't limited to form." And where is this law of the universe? You are imposing your own hopes and views of what god is or could be on him. Have you really thought through your omnipotence idea here? Do I need to ask about the paradox of the stone or the burrito microwaved so hot that jesus himself could not eat it.
My point is the very concept of your god's one attribute is paradoxical. So why should I believe then?
JPO1618 1 year ago
J: [And where is this law of the universe?] Then you're not being honest with the term "omnipotence." I am arguing to a being that pre-exists spacetime itself. If pre-existent, then omnipotent by default. "Omni" = "All." I'm not imposing anything; you're simply not paying attention to the context of the logic process. And yes, the omnipotence paradox has been answered already.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 See, omnipotence isn't a trait that allows for the absurd; only mastery of the whole of spacetime. I'm still arguing from within logic itself.
The question: "Can God make a rock so big that He can't lift it?" is both illogical and dishonest to the attribute of omnipotence as simply defined. You cannot logically exceed infinity. Does that therefore cancel out infinity? No, of course not. Same goes for the ruler of "all things" being "all powerful."
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 You're asking for material evidence of an omnipotent being, Who, is not limited to form (material or otherwise).
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 When you understand why I dismiss all other Gods except One, then you will understand why I reject your arguments.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin Ohhh, I see what you did there. Very clever. However, this attribute of omnipotence that you give to your god, this is a power given to other gods too; how can you know that you aren't worshiping them one of them instead? What makes you think that your god is all-powerful? Does it say somewhere that he is? Has he saved all of those who believe in him from pain and sadness? Has he wiped the earth of disease? or war?
Where is all of this power?
JPO1618 1 year ago
J: [. . .how can you know that you aren't worshiping them one of them instead?] They're all quite easy to eliminate in sequence, actually. Omnipotence assumes the sub-attributes of omniscience and omnipresence. So for example, Odin is the son of Borr, thus not self-existent and therefore not omnipresent. This automatically takes out Thor as well. . .(cont).
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 (cont) The same goes for the God of the LDS. According to their doctrine, he has a body of flesh and bone, which limits him to form. Thus, not omnipresent. This same god can also be surprised, since he is unaware of the faithful until the end. Thus, not omniscient. A mere claim to these traits is not enough.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
J: [What makes you think that your god is all-powerful?] It's a flanking argument from 2 directions. The first is on my channel homepage. If intent is the explanation of 1st cause, then "intent" is omnipotent by default. That's deism. The deist model of the nature of God does not contradict Christianity. It's only a question of level of involvement. (cont)
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 (cont) The second argument is stacked on the certainty of the existence of an omnipotent being. To put it briefly, if God is omnipotent, then God is perfectly self-aware. This self-awareness creates a duality between God and God's living knowledge of self (which matches the Logos of John 1). This duality is equal in being and perfect in harmony. So much so, that they have a living relationship between them that is also equal. This is a secular Trinitarian model.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin ..."This duality is equal in being and perfect in harmony..." This all sounds like blah-blah-blah-yakkity-schmackity to me. So much rationalizing to match some long-defunct notions of the universe.
JPO1618 1 year ago
J: [This all sounds like blah-blah-blah-yakkity-schmackity to me.] ARGUMENT TO PERSONAL INCREDULITY! If you had perfect knowledge of yourself, you would know your own location from anywhere in the universe. Thus, dualism. You're too chicken to look into it further, so you skirt the shallow end. If you claim to be open-minded, then do so. Otherwise, wallow in your dogma of scientism.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 Not rationalizing. Logic stacks. If you can concede one logical absolute, you can prove God. If you don't, or if you avoid doing so, then that's your misology.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
J: [Does it say somewhere that he is?] Since logic is math-based, you can know for a certainty that logic itself requires a logician (a rational absolute). Thus, logic is not limited to man, but is instead transcendent. If logic were limited to man alone, then logic would be mutable. But that is absurd. Thus logic is transcendent. The law of causality applies to the entire universe. Thus, whatever is responsible for 1st cause is omnipotent by default.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@Paulomycin But by taking causality beyond the limits of the universe (i.e. before Time), you impose your ideas on the unknowable.
JPO1618 1 year ago
@JPO1618 I'm only arguing to what we (you and I) do know. Please try to follow along. See my channel homepage on this. Through pure logic, as well as process of elimination, you can rule out chance and infinite regress. This leaves only one possibility: Intent, purpose, design, etc. Your declaration of everything that happens prior to spacetime is arbitrary. You simply refuse to work with what information you do have before you. Deny it and you embrace misology.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 Also, I like how hypocritical Sagan can be when he's so into SETI on one hand, but on the other, the extraterrestrial life in question absolutely must fit his materialist bias. Answer me this: Why can't the SETI end in a message imprinted within DNA? Why MUST the extraterrestrial in question be non-omnipotent? Why CAN'T the extraterrestrial emerge from outside spacetime? Because you fallaciously live in a closed and irrational universe, that's why.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
J: [Where is all of this power?] I am arguing to the entire universe. Which, when examined, is the sum-total of all effects. So the power you are claiming ignorance of here, is truly staggering.
Your previous questions sum up the moral argument against God. But which god are you referring to? If the God of the Bible, then I'd say you must first deal with an extant God before jumping ahead to the moral argument. One thing is true. An omniscient God is not absurd and cannot lie.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 But if you are arguing to the God of the Bible, then the Bible clearly states that all pain, sadness, disease, war, hatred, death, and other moral negatives are entirely man's fault. The Bible also clearly states that mankind will be preserved as a species.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
@JPO1618 See, your arguments pretty much amount to, "Your beliefs are absurd and irrational because they conflict with empiricism, materialism, and scientism." Yet I reject all 3 on rational grounds. For one thing, logic itself is non-falsifiable. Do you then REJECT math-based logic? Proof is objective. Persuasion is subjective. Logic is objective.
Paulomycin 1 year ago
Did you hear about the guy that didn't believe in anything at all? He still died like everyone else.
utoobasaurus 1 year ago
The Emperor has no clothes!
nccflorin23 1 year ago
@nccflorin23 Either that or the clothes have no Emperor!
Sorry, that was me folding under the influence of a compulsion ;-)
steveb0503 1 year ago
'give it up'..
excuse me but i'm not a quitter. i have never quit anything in my life. except a few things. at the end of teh day, u know i am right. no inventor was ever a skeptic. u have to have lots of crazy ideas of hypotheses if u want one of them to be right. lol. additionally the quantum mechanical nature of the universe allows for lots of correct answers, lol. u know i am right. even if ur mind won't let u admit it.
thecosmicmechanism 1 year ago
being an arrogant cunt is not proof u are right japeo. u are an arrogant cunt. did i mention arrogant cunt?
thecosmicmechanism 1 year ago
@thecosmicmechanism Must you really keep pestering me? Just give it up, Chuck. For both of our sakes.
JPO1618 1 year ago
@JPO1618 lol. but u started it.
thecosmicmechanism 1 year ago
ur not right cos u think u are right Japeo. U need to provide evidence. do u even know about epistomology or ontoloy or the huge debates on this subject? ur being nothing but an arrogant cunt! your speciality! being an arrogant cunt!!! how do u know our visual senses can record everything. do u even know what the electromagnetic spectrum is?!
Chucks.
thecosmicmechanism 1 year ago
the thing is tho, ghosts and spirits ARE detectable on infrared, lol.
thecosmicmechanism 1 year ago
@thecosmicmechanism I think you are incorrect in that statement. First you must define what ghosts are made of, and if they generate heat, or absorb warmth. A thermal imaging camera detects the variance of the thermal radiance of an object, typically matter, which does include water and hot gases.You cannot just pick up a TIC (Thermal Imaging Camera) and know the intricacies of it. You have to take classes and be certified to minimize false readings or misinterpretations, which is not hard to do
EchosFromaBlankMind 1 year ago
I'm the real skeptic, cos i know how to be skeptical of so called scientists. u do not. u blindly accept everything. i have discovered the difference between us. check this out.
`PseudoSkeptic' = Believes in human authority.
Real Skeptic = Acknowledges humans have limitations in understanding.
`pseudoscience' = unpaid science.
`Science' = paid position.
u can't refute that. science is mainly done by paid whores. but less useful than prostitutes in all likelyhood. don't take any of it off pls
TheCosmicShield 1 year ago
In 5 years I will be the world's leading pseudoscientist when i get this bastard degree out of the way. Cos i know that science starts from philosophy and pseudosicnece. U don't. I will publish. I already have supporters saying they want to read my book and will buy it when it comes out. I have proven the existence of an ancient tradition of weather mapping which combines with electric universe to fascilitate a greater understanding of global warming cooling patters.
TheCosmicShield 1 year ago
if astrology doesn't work how do u explain the mars effect. have u even heard of the mars effect? are you even interested in researching the mars effect? NOPE!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
TheCosmicShield 1 year ago
@TheCosmicShield Please go back to your break.
JPO1618 1 year ago
@JPO1618 @TheCosmicShield - It's tough to argue with this Cosmicshield, after all he has almost completed his undergraduate work in Bastardology. This guy is oblivious.
normmccabe 1 year ago
@normmccabe Yeah, he just left these comments so that I would block his last channel. I thought that he might be worth my time, but boy was I wrong.
JPO1618 1 year ago
one more thing. michiu kaku just said ufos exist. now that's michiu and hawking, LOL! looks like everyone is leaving skepticism since it simply doesn't take u anywhere? LOL sorry but it's the truth man and u said u want the truth. skepticism = philosophy. philosophy does not really advance in 2000 years. know what else allegedly doen't advance? that's right, pseudoscience dont' advance either. we have a winner.
TheCosmicShield 1 year ago
@TheCosmicShield "...michiu and hawking" - Even if these men were to assert that aliens had landed in their backyard and were now bunking in their spare room, I, and other skeptics, would respond the same way as with the dragon: "Show me." Show me evidence that your claim is worthy of consideration.
It is too bad that you misunderstand skepticism so completely, since you use it, although improperly, in your beliefs about global warming, science, etc.
You know what doesn't advance? Astrology :)
JPO1618 1 year ago
i wasn't gonna annoy u with any more comments. i'm taking a long break from utube but i just popped in to say, isn't this a straw man argument? Is it really right to compare theistic arguments with dragons or santa? God is an explanation for the universe. Dragon is an explanation for nothing. That's why god is used in the first place and dragon isn't. It's an untestable hypothesis. But it explains things for many people. Can we really assert theists are speaking of dragons? apples and oranges
TheCosmicShield 1 year ago
@TheCosmicShield This isn't an argument specifically against theism, it works for any claim. The point is, yes it's an "untestable hypothesis", and therefore I have no reason for believing it. Without evidence, the best that I can say is that the current evidence does not point to a dragon, but if more evidence comes in in the future, I will examine it with an open mind but also with the weight of evidence currently against it. God explains nothing that science does not
JPO1618 1 year ago
Trogdor denier! > : (
; ) Nice narration on this video.
Maphisto86 1 year ago
@Maphisto86 Trogdor. He's a dragon. He's a man. He's a Dragon-Man! TROGDORRR!!! ...whew.
JPO1618 1 year ago