@HappyFace877 To be mother or father you must exist! Did Macedonia exist in 9th century? Complicated question I think!
За да бъдеш някакъв трябва преди това да съществуваш, аз мисля! Коя Македония е майка на кирилицата? Македония като държава и народ не съществуват от 200 година преди Христа, тоест 1000 (хиляда) години преди Кирилицата! Как тогава ще сте майка?
Коя славянска държава приема учениците на Кирил и Методий близо до сегашен Белград?, Не, не е Вашият окупатор, Сърбия! Била е БЪЛГАРИЯ!
The modern Cyrillic alphabet originated from the Russian Cyrillic alphabet found 1708. Until that year in use was only the Church Slavonic Cyrillic alphabet.
The 1708 decision of Peter I (achieved by 1710) was to be replaced by the newer Cyrillic, so-called Civil letter. In this way, the Cyrillic
graph version (uppercase and lowercase letters, printed and written letters) and
shape of some letters which are somewhat closer to Latin.
--->> Contemporary Slavic Cyrillic letters are between 30 and 33 graphemes (the letter graphemes the totality of possible its realization: the same letter as large, small, printed, written, etc..), and 24 graphemes are common to all Slavic
Cyrillic letters: А, Б, В, Г, Д, Е, Ж, 3, И, К, Л, М, Н, О, П, Р, С, Т, У, Ф, X,
@tripleMboy sorry but you write too much bullshit read some history god damnit.The cyrillic alphabet which originated from the glagolitic was written for the bulgarians to use it for their language(old-bulgarian not slavic)thanks to the brother Saints Cyril and Methodius who were invited by the Bulgarian king Boris the first in 886.All other slavic countries have a modified(if you could say) language connected with the cyrillic
@nemurad The brothers Saints Cyril and Methodius never been invited by the Ongurian khan Boris, not in 886, not later. They were invited by Moravian Prince Rostislav, and were sent in Christianity mission in great Moravia by Byzantine Emperor Michail II. The inventor of Cyrillic alphabet was St Clement of Ochrida , one of the ST Cyril and Methodious pupils, who after the death of St Methodious he returned back to Byzantium. I m so sorry for you poor Bulgarians and you fake nationalism...
@nemurad very strong facts and arguments... btw on the entire Balkan Peninsula you cannot find any archeological detail, finding which belong to Ongur people or Utigurs...
@TheAlienPower Better check again your science fiction history books, maybe after Atlantida (the Great Bulgar civilization) :)))) maybe you can find some Indian Bulgarian ascendant of Han Asparuk hahhahah
@TheAlienPower haahah the are you OK? you said: "Macedonian Soil" WTF-Macedonia only developed as a country after the fall of the Ottoman Empire there was no Macedonia before that! hahah Macedonian kingdom exist 5 centuries after Alexander the Great. The Great Eastern Roman Empire was established on the base of the Macedonian Empire, to glorify The Great Macedonian Empire. All roman emperors have title Macedonian, no matter of their true origin.
@TheAlienPower during the time of Cyril and Methodius there wasn't Bulgarian on the Macedonian soil. That Turkic - Altaic tribes comes along Danub river not in Macedonia. Bulgarian are by Turkic-Mongolian origin not by Slav or Thracian. Can you explain what the name Bulgar or Bulgarian means? Is that Slav word, simbiolize some Slavopnic tradition and Culture??? :)) Do you by what origine are Khazars, Chuvash and Tatars???
The brothers Cyrl and Methodii were half Bulgarians half Greek. Dont talk bulsh1t please. They toke a mision from Byzantion Imperator to create alphabet for the Slavs and Bulgars that lived north from the Empire, so they can use it and spreading of cristianity to be more easier. This is a political act of Byzantian Empire. Bulgaria was the first country who accept it since The brothers were half Bulgarian, also their students came in Bulgaria and started to teach others.
heyyy wake up!! Do you know when Bulgars entered in Macedonia?? (Bulgar are not a Slav). There were no Bulgars in the time of St Ciryl and St Methodious in Salonica and surrounding area. Bulgars in that time were in Asia, around the Black sea and along the river Danube, far away from macedonia, Thrace and City of Salonica. Do you have any fact or something like that to prove you comment, or just you wish to be like that, like in a cartoons!! haha
what?????? do you realise that we had country since 681 there, and there is no Makeodonians as a nation. FYROM was created 1991. please stop lie the people.And also tell me why the Alphabet was called ''Slavianobulgarksa'' Slavinian-Bulgarian'' thats the original name. And about Cyril and Methodii, yes they are Half Bulgarians half Greeks, it is prooved by Byzantian hronists, the guy who write the history for his imperator. Stop lieng people about histroy, your FYROM was created 1991. sry.
what?????? first: that alphabet was called Glagolica. Second: they, St Cyril and Methodious were Slav apostles, not Turkic Bulgarian! Third: Do you know where was the state of Khan Asparuh in 681 AD??? fourth: Stop with your lies and stop fast reading toilet paper!!!
LOL 681 is the year when Khan Asparuh won the war against Byzantia and Increased Bulgarian territroy south from Danube. Alphabet was created 200 later LOL. retard. When Bulgarian nation was already created which includes Bulgarians,Slavs and Thrakians - Mizia, THrakia,Dobrudja,Makedonia thats all Bulgarians (aka Bulgarians,Thrakians,Slavs). There is still a reward of 1 milion evro for at least 1 proof of Makedonian nation LOL try you best chance.... 1 milion evro go go go monkeydonian
Proto- Bulgarians were people that had inhabited the steppes between Pamir, Middle Asian Mountain, Ural and the territory of present day Kazakhstan. After almost two centuries of research and the endeavors of many scientists, the sacred fatherland of the Bulgarians was discovered to be Pamir.
Pamir is the old lands of Balgar and is still called Palgar by the local Tadziks. Bulgarian is an Uralo-Altai language under strong Indo-European influence. According to the Chinese chronicles the town Bugur had existed until 87 AD, which later was demolished to the ground by the Chinese imperial troops.There are various assumptions as to the origin of the name 'Bulgarian'.
According to some hypothesis, 'Bulgarian' designates a man who tanns or deals in hides; according to another, the name derives from 'Bulga' - the name of an animal that lived in the steppes of Central Asia and was renowned for its fine fur, and which in all likelihood was a Proto-Bulgarian totem centuries BC. A third hypothesis says that the name Bulgar means, in the Turkish of the time, people of mixed race.
In 632 AD, Khan Kubrat unites politically all Bulgarians tribes of the Azov and the Caspian Sea, founding the first state of the Bulgarians in Europe - Bulgaria Magna, called by the Armenians "The Bulgarian Land in Caucasus", and by the Byzantine "The Great Old Bulgaria." The capital of the first Bulgarian state is Fanagoria located at the Taman (Crimea) peninsula.
he youngest son of Kubrat, Asparukh led his horde (some 250-300 thousand people) westward across the Dniester River, and then southward across the Danube. There, on the plain between the Danube, the Black Sea, and the Balkan Mountains, they established the First Bulgarian Kingdom in 681 AD in a part od the territory of the modern Bulgarian state.
ty for the Bulgarian lessons, i think i know my history, i am happy that other people are interested in it too. Just tell me what exactly this proofs that Cyril and Methodii were Makedonian, or is there makedonian nation at all? i am telling you... 1 milion evro award for 1 proof of makedonian nation GO GO GO
Very simple: Bulgars are not by Slav origin. Bulgars up to 11 century speak turkic-altaic tonge (tehre are many script writen with greek letters). During the time of St Cyril and Methodious there is not Bulgarian in Salonica and surrounding area, no evidence! The Holy Brothers made Glagolica on a base of Slavs dialect spoken in Salonica. Bulgars become christian 50 years after mission of Holy Brothers in Moravia, After their deaths, not before........
man you oposite to yourself. in prevous msges we came at 681 now you say we wasnt here? i think if you continue to use your imagination for science you will end up with those white shirts that they give to the crazy people, yuo know where... bb i am not speaking with crazy people, i am Bachelor of Cultural History i dont need your information from Serbian comunists.. thank you for your interest about our Great country Bulgaria, i know you are jelous us.
is very clear that you don't understand what you read, or maybe you can not read? Where was that Bulgaria from 681? see what i wrote: on the plain between the Danube, the Black Sea, and the Balkan Mountains, they established the First Bulgarian Khahanate in Europe in 681 AD in a part of the territory of the modern Bulgarian state. whole Macedonia and part of Thrace weren't part of that Khahanate! Bulgarian queasy Historians want to present opposite but without any proofs and facts,
Bulgaria from 681 AD was KHAHANATE, and not a Kingdom! Ruled by KHAN, which was Turkic-Altaic Title. The term Khan was used by Turks and Mongolian as well as Bulgarian.
bulgaria adoption Christianity in 864. A small number of population become christian in the beggining. During the years Christianity was adopted by all Bulgarians! Macedonian were already Christian long time ago, We were the First Christians in Europe, since mission of st Paul in Macedonia. Only Christians can give missioners for Holy mission, not non-Christian!
In 862, both brothers were to enter upon the work which gives them their historical importance. That year the Prince Rastislav of Great Moravia requested that the Emperor Michael III and the Patriarch Photius send missionaries to evangelize his Slavic subjects. His motives in doing so were probably more political than religious. Rastislav had become king with the support of the Frankish ruler Louis the German, but subsequently sought to assert his independence from the Franks. -->>
-->>It is a common misconception that Cyril and Methodius were the first to bring Christianity to Moravia, but the letter from Rastislav to Michael III states clearly that Rastislav's people "had already rejected paganism and adhere to the Christian law." The Emperor quickly chose to send Constantine, accompanied by his brother Methodius, stating "You two are from Thessaloniki, and all Thessalonians speak pure Slavonic"
look what Bulgarian quasi-historians like Bojidar Dimitrov and similar idiots like him write about these historical things. They roughly falsify the history. Only totally illiterate and stupid can believe in their science fiction history. --->>
Bulgarian science fiction history by BD looks like following: let's see what they say about that: "It is assumed that the Bulgars were greatly outnumbered by the Slav population among whom they had settled. Between the 7th and the 10th centuries, the Bulgars were gradually absorbed by the Slavs, adopting a Bulgaro-South Slav language[21] and converting to Christianity (of the Byzantine rite) under Boris I in 864".
this is realy science-fiction, and must be nominated for oscar! look it: "Bulgars were greatly outnumbered by the Slav population... but in the fact Bulgars were Assimilated by Slav, forget their own language and adopted Slav language. The question is not what that happend, but how that happend??
@Jigov during the time of Cyril and Methodius there wasn't Bulgarian on the Macedonian soil. That Turkic - Altaic tribes comes along Danub river not in Macedonia. Bulgarian are by Turkic - Mongolian origin, not Slavs.
@tripleMboy Wrong again. Khanas Ubigii Asparuh took the lands around Danuve river, but his brother took the lands in Makedonia (NB: From the Greeks not from local makedonians lol - what a joke) The other brother went in West Balkans and than italiy - Alzek. one of them staied in "Old Great Bulgaria" and than fall down from avars. the last one went north and created Volga Bulgaria and was one of the strongest countries - Cities of Kazan, Biliar... go back to school please.
@Jigov hahahha now you said that all Balkan have Turkic roots? hahah Everyone in the Balkan have Turkic blood, but no one speak Turkic language, except Bulgar up to 13 century AD and Turks after that time.... Are you all right man???
@Jigov sorry man... Macedonian never been Bulgarian. My homeland is MACEDONIA, whatever you like or not!!! Your Turkic roots makes you brother by blood with Turks not with us, we are completely different, doesn't matter do you like that or not! :)))
@tripleMboy I am sorry but there is no coutnry makedonia. There is region in Bulgaria called makedonia, it was never a separate country it has always been Bulgarian territroy, before that it was greek territory. Thats it. If you cannot accept your 20 years old history .. good luck.
@tripleMboy@tripleMboy I Don't understand why Macedonians like you try and change history. Macedonia was in fact part of Bulgaria and this is a fact. I read most of what you wrote and it is all, im sorry to say it to you like this, bullshit. I also find it funny how Macedonians always talk shit on Bulgaria but at the first opportunity they get, the move to Bulgaria. So please, think before you write something moronic and totally un-true. We are all brothers here from the Balkans.
@tripleMboy I Don't understand why Macedonians like you try and change history. Macedonia was in fact part of Bulgaria and this is a fact. I read most of what you wrote and it is all, im sorry to say it to you like this, bullshit. I also find it funny how Macedonians always talk shit on Bulgaria but at the first opportunity they get, the move to Bulgaria. So please, think before you write something moronic and totally un-true. We are all brothers here from the Balkans.
@pimpninja1985 BULGARIANS, GREEKS, SERBIANS, AND ALBANIANS DIVIDED AND OCCUPY MACEDONIA. IN SERBIA, AND IN BULGARIA, AND IN GREECE AND IN ALBANIA, MACEDONIANS HAVE NO HUMAN RIGHTS. MACEDONIANS ONLY HAVE 1 NAME, MACEDONIAN.
@Jigov during the time of Cyril and Methodius there wasn't Bulgarian on the Macedonian soil. That Turkic - Altaic tribes comes along Danub river not in Macedonia.
St Cyril & Methodious created an Alphabet called Glagolica for their mission in Eastern Europe Moravia (today Chez and Slovakia). They used simple signs from everyday living. According to some archeological facts, Cyrillic alphabet existed before Glagolica. The Holy Brothers from Salonica created an alphabet on the language which they spoke in that time i.e macedonian, not on the tongue spoken in Moravia. This is fact! Can you show me some fact, what was Proto Moravian or proto Russian lang?
All so called Slavic nations, Slavic speaker's nations, spoke a laguage which was addopted together with the Glagolic alphabet in 10th century. Nobody knows what was the tongue which they speak before 10th century. By one simple logic, that was macedonian language, because the Glagolic was created in macedonia, there were no Bulgarian in Macedonia and Tracia in that time, and weren't Bulgarian, because proto-bulgarian in that time as new arrivals, already spoke on thier own Turkic tongue.
Also, Macedonian were Christian in that time, the proof is the mission of the Holy brothers. In history is well known that Bulgarian and other so called nation become christian later. Bulgarian become christian after Moravians.
You are being racist again you dumbass, like seriously saying you are Tatars I don't really care at least I ADMIT IT AND IT WAS MY HISTORY UNLIKE YOUR PATHETIC "COUNTRY" WHICH HAS STOLEN FROM EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HISTORY, CULTURE, LANGUAGE AND ETC... YOU ARE PATHETIC YOU ARE COPY CATS YOU ARE UNORIGINAL AND YOU ARE WEAK BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT ADMIT YOUR TRUE HISTORICAL ROOTS SO YOU CAN ALL GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF DOPES!
Makedonski pederasi sega shte vi kaja neshto istorichesko.Gospod e sazdal balgarina ot kal,vidial che mu lipsva neshto.Napravil mu dupka na gaza i ot kalta vzeta ot tazi dupka e napravil makedonskite utrepliaci .Dali sme vi ezik a vie go izpolzvate da ni psuvate.Bokluci neshtastni.Makedonia e nai-izostanalata Balgarska provincia
you're not just pathetic, but stupid uneducated tatar. Macedonia as a country and as a name is at least 15 centuries older than Bulgaria! Bulgars are not Balkan people, even not Slavs. Bulgars are Turko-Mongolian Tatars. You are may be from the ass hole of Jingis Khann in your Tatar story laegend about Bulgars. hahhaah
kolku sto mene mi e poznato Vanga e od Strumica, rodena i izrastena vo toj grad, a vo Strumica nikogas nemalo TATARI, nema ni sega, pa niti ke ima TATARI vo idnina. TATARITE se istocno od Kjustendil......
Ами и ние го знаем това че е родена през 1911 г. и починала в Петрич, ама през това десетилетие градът е бил в територията на България до 1917г. Иначе ДА там никога не е имало татари и сега няма. Там има само българи.
Bugarite se Tatari........ sto znaci nema ni Bugari...... a ako sakas mozes da pojdes vo Strumica i da vidime dali ke najedes nekoj Bugarin tamu, izvini Tatar??
Кой го е казал открил и доказал това, кой кой коой коой койкойкой кой ... коой кой койкой ... КОЙ ??? Що не излезе и със ръка на сърцето да каже : Аз открих еде си какво и заявявам че българите са татари ???
Dali znaes koja e ethogenezata na Bugarite? Dali bugarite se Slovenski narod, i ako se objasnija ja ethogenezata i objasni go imeto Bulgar, Bugarin, Bulgaria???
Еей , аз имам генетическо изследване !!! И със повече от 100 % сигурност мога да ти кажа че сме славянски народ !!! Колкото и да е отричано това в твоята държавица. А ти имаш ли такова изследване ?? Какъв ли ти е произхода ?-сигурно пак Бюрмски.
1. The roots of the Macedonians are in ancient Macedonia in Europe since 8th century BC, while the roots of the Bulgarians are in the Turko-Morgilic Bulgars who came to Europe from Asia in the 7th century AD. While the Bulgars are intruders in the Balkans, the Macedonians had preserved their name through the centuries and evidence shows that they have always associated themselves with the ancient Macedonians. ===>>
2. When the Macedonian king Alexander the Great (336-323 BC) conquered Asia, he too conquered ancient Bulgaria. In the writings of the ancient historian Pseudo-Calisthenes there is a list of the nations that the Macedonians conquered and the Bulgars are on that list along with the Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, and the other conquered nations ---->>>
3. When Rome conquered the Balkans, Macedonia and its eastern neighbor Thrace became part of the Roman Empire. In the late 4th century AD with the split of the Roman Empire, Macedonia and Thrace became part of the East Roman (or Byzantine) Empire. ---->>>>
5. In the 7th century the Turko-Mongolic Bulgars for a very first time entered Europe from their original Asian home, invaded Thrace, and subdued the Thracians and Slavs. Since this moment the mix between the Bulgar intruders, Thracians, and Slavs will result in the formation of the modern Bulgarian nation.
6. The Bulgars also attacked Macedonia, Epirus, Serbia, conquered parts of these lands, and held them for some time but never permanently. Modern Bulgarian historiography claims that the Bulgar conquest of parts of Macedonia transformed the Macedonians and the Slavs in Macedonia into Bulgarians. The claim is quite ridiculous and easily dismissed for the following main reasons: -------->>>>>
--->>a) There is NO recorded settlement of Bulgars in Macedonia as there is recorded the settlement of the Slavs among the Macedonians, or as is recorded the settlement of Bulgars among the Thracians and Slavs in Thrace. --->>
--->>b) The Bulgar intrusion into Macedonia was nothing but a temporary conquest by foreign armies. Because it was a temporary conquest it is impossible to imagine that the Macedonians suddenly "evolved" into Bulgarians. The case is identical with Serbia since the Bulgarian armies also conquered that country. The Serbians as we know did not turn into Bulgarians either. ---->>>
--->>>Likewise the conquest of Russia of the Caucasus countries did not turn these people into Russians despite both of centuries of occupation and Russian settlements among the natives.
---->>c) The Romans held Macedonia for more then 12 centuries and yet the Macedonians continued to be mentioned as nation in Byzantine sources, both before and after the Bulgarian conquest. Thus, since the Romans did not turn the Macedonians into Romans after 12 centuries it is more then impossible that the Bulgarians could have turned them into Bulgarians after holding parts of that land over a miniscule period of time.
7. Modern Bulgarian historiography also claims that the apostle brothers St. Cyril and Methodius from the 10th century, who came from the largest Macedonian city Salonica were Bulgarians. However such claim is also impossible since Salonica was never taken by the Bulgarians. The city obviously kept its original Macedonian population since Byzantine records of those times call it "the largest city of the Macedonians". Thus, --->>
--->>Cyril and Methodius could not be anything else but Macedonians. Cyril and Methodius' father was an important Macedonian in Salonica. It is simply impossible that he or his sons even looked like the typical Turko-Mongolic Bulgarians from the 11th century.
8. Modern Bulgarian historiography denies that the modern Macedonians are descendents of the ancient Macedonians, but ironically it recognizes that the modern Bulgarians are descendents of the ancient Thracians. Right away they contradict themselves since it is impossible to imagine that the Thracians existed in the 7th century when the Bulgars settled among them, while the ancient Macedonians somehow disappeared a century earlier when the Slavs settled Macedonia. --->>
--->> The fact that the Macedonians are mentioned as nation and Slavs are mentioned as living side by side by them in Macedonia in the following centuries by the Byzantine historians is proof that the Macedonians did not mysteriously cease to exist. It also proves that the modern Bulgarian historians are attempting to falsify the history of the Macedonian nation to their likes, although unsuccessfully.
9. The Turks entered Europe in the 14th century with the help of the Turko-Mongolic Bulgars conquered the Balkan countries, including Macedonia and Thrace.
10. After centuries of ruthless oppression, the Balkan peoples lost a clear ethnic identification. The Greeks called themselves Romanoi, the Bulgarians called themselves Serbs, Greeks and Bulgars, while the Macedonians called themselves Balcan people, Christians, Bulgarians, Slavs, but also Macedonians. --->>
--->>There are Russian, Austrian, German, English sources since the 15th centuries which mention the existence of the Macedonians among their neighbors Serbians, Greeks, and Bulgarians. Furthermore written records show that Macedonians claimed a lineage from Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians.
11. In the 19th century when nationalism swept the Balkans and the Greek and Bulgarians strove to develop their own Greek and Bulgarian nationality, so did the Macedonians strove to develop their own Macedonian nationality and consciousness. More and more cases are reported where the Macedonians claimed a distinct nationality as direct descendents of the ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great. ---->>
--->> The Macedonian rebellions against the Turks in the 19th century, the deeds of the Macedonian intellectuals, and the Macedonian folk and literature have brought up this strong national awakening.
12. Having open appetite to Macedonian land, Bulgaria did everything to suppress the development of the Macedonian national awakening and many Macedonians who fought against the Turks and sought refuge ended up in Bulgarian prisons, or were betrayed and surrendered to the Turks. Such examples were Alexander of Ohrid, father Theodosie of Skopje who attempted to form an independent Macedonian church, Gotse Delchev, Jane Sandanski, Gjorche Petrov, and countless others.
13. That the Bulgarians tried everything to falsify the history of the Macedonians we find proof in the recent discovery of a stone inscription which states that the Macedonians of the 10th century and Czar Samoil were Bulgarians. However, the stone was examined by the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences in Sofia and its director himself declared that the inscription was a 19th century Bulgarian fabrication. ===>>
Thus we have obtained a clear proof that the Bulgars have been falsifying the history of the Macedonians for more then a century. If Tsar Samoil was indeed a "Bulgar", there would have been no need to use falsifications in order to show that. It is obvious that the falsifiers were aware that that neither Samoil nor the Macedonians were Bulgar and with that in mind they created the forgery. Needless to say, modern historiography calls the Bulgarian claims that Samoil was a Bulgarian - absurd.
14. Yet the Bulgarians also contradict themselves in their claim that the Macedonians were "Bulgarians". There are Bulgarian historians like Draganov and Slaveykov, who even since the 19th century admitted that the Macedonians were not Bulgarians but a distinct nation with its own language, culture, and ethnicity.
15. In 1913 Bulgaria, and her allies Serbia and Greece, with the help of more then 100,000 Macedonians who fought along these three armies, drove the Turks out of Macedonia, but Macedonia did not gain its freedom. Instead, the Balkan countries partitioned Macedonia among themselves and Bulgaria occupied 13% of the whole territory, called Pirin Macedonia.
16. Bulgaria now begun an open assimilatory politics against the Macedonians, just like Greece did in Aegean Macedonia, and proclaimed that the Macedonians of Pirin are Bulgarians. Any opposition was brutally suppressed.
17. After helping the Turks to occupy the Balkans in the 14th century, the Bulgarians again sided with the dark side in World War II (1941-1945). As fascist allies of Hitler, the Bulgarian armies occupied the previously occupied Greek and Serbian parts of Macedonia.
18. But the Macedonians defeated the Bulgarian fascist troops and after the war, the government of Bulgaria on August 9, 1946 officially recognized the Macedonian nation and the right of the Pirin part of Macedonia to be attached to the Peoples Republic of Macedonia.
19. The Macedonians in Bulgaria exist as separate nationality on all Bulgarian censuses after the end of World War II. The demography data from 1946 revealed that the majority of the population in the Pirin part of Macedonia declared itself as Macedonian in a free census. A period of cultural autonomy and affirmation of the Macedonian national and cultural values had begun. ==>>
===>>The Macedonian literary language and the national history have been introduced into the educational process. Almost 32,000 pupils were included into the teaching of Macedonian. In 1947 in Gorna Djumaja (Blagoevgrad nowadays) the first Macedonian bookstore and reading room were opened, as well as the Regional Macedonian National Theater. ===>>
===>>The newspapers in Macedonian such as "Pirinsko delo", "Nova Makedonija", "Mlad Borec" etc. were also published. Literary circles and cultural and artistic associations were founded contributing to the spreading of the Macedonian culture. In the Bulgarian census of 1956, the majority of the population of Pirin again declared itself Macedonian.
20. However, since 1956 Bulgaria has altered her attitude, negating again the existence of the Macedonian nation and forbidding the free expression of Macedonian nationality and language. ---->>
---->>The idea was enforced and as result, in the census of 1965, the number of Macedonians suddenly dropped to only 8,750 and in the district of Blagoevgrad which previously had the highest percentage of Macedonians, it was "mysteriously" less than 1%. Yet the Macedonians in Bulgaria begun organizing themselves and in 1989, United Macedonian Organization - Ilinden (OMO Ilinden) was formed, demanding cultural and national autonomy for the Macedonians in Pirin.
21. Like Greece, Bulgaria stands accused by the international human rights organizations Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International for denying the Macedonians of Pirin their basic human rights to identify themselves as Macedonians. --->>
===>>Nevertheless it is recognized that the Macedonians exist in Bulgaria with their own national consciousness and consist a sizable minority. They organize themselves despite the pressures and intimidation of the Bulgarian police, and continue to peacefully demand their rights which the Bulgarians stripped them off since their army took over Pirin Macedonia in 1913.
понеже стана въпрос откъде е дошло името българи. БЪЛГХ- означава "висок, голям". Сходно е със думата БУРЗАН - висок пръв,благословен. Ето какво означава. А не, както вие бюрмците го тълкувате като "булка". Вие в кой виц се намирате ???
The Turk-Bulgarian word Uzzi means Bulgarians, and so there are todays Gaga-Uzi, ie Gaga-Bulgarians (IMAN Bakhshi, "DJAGFAR Tarihi" (The Annals of DJAGFAR), Volume 3, KUL GALIA, HON KITABY (BOOK OF HUNS), 28/29). The current Bulgarians from Uzbekistan call themselves UZBEK, which means to be Bulgarian.
Gagauz i.e. Bulgarians, as well as all other Christians in Ottomans Empire were subjected to pressures that moved in Islam by their Ottoman brothers, and because many of them together with their neighbours slavophons Anto-Thracian (Slavs) from Dobruja, after Rusko-Turkish War in 18 AD moved to Bessarabia, today Ukraine and Moldova, the Russian territory until 1918, and later USSR. -->>
---->> The Russian censuses of the population these people call Bulgarians, which can be seen from the Russian historical documents from 19 AD. (Скальковский 1836-1838, 1848, Бугньон 1853: 198, Свиньин 1867: 175, Могилянский 1913: 85).
кво ма блазни мене думата Узи. Тука говорим за името на българите. БЪЛГХ - висок ,благословен. Тук аз откривам нещо много по-различно. И пак ще те попитам Какъв ти е майчиният език ???
ova mozebi go razbiras podobro, od kogo e napisano ova:
Първоначалната история на българите несъмнено трябва да търсим в историята на ония средно-азиатски турски народи, които са известни под общо име хун-ну (Hiong-nu, Hiung-nu) в китайските летописи и хуни (, — Hunni) у европейските автори, -->>
Today in all surrounding area of the river of Volga live a few Bulgarian people Bulgars-Tatar, Chuvash and Al-Marinc. Novaday's Balkan Bulgarian originate from Volga, today's Tatrstan or Bulgarostan (old name). They identified them selves as Bulgars, and their language is Bulgarian language - Turkic group. [Kashgari Makhmud, 1960, 66-68; Kononov AN, 1972, 14]. [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51], [Vorobev NI, 1948, 80; kid KI, 1964, 20-21], [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51].
===>> An other fact is The List of Bulgarian rulers towards Byzantine sources, but also according to medieval Bulgarian stone inscriptions are written in Turkic language. (стр. 23-33 от Studia protobulgarica mediaevalia europensia. В чест на професор Веселин Бешевлиев. Велико Търново, 1992).
хаха Аз ще те попитам С КОГО Е ГРАНИЧИЛА И УЧАСТВАЛА В СЪЮЗ СТАРА ВЕЛИКА БЪЛГАРИЯ ??? Моят съвет е да прочетеш малко Руска история ! Хуните първоначално са живели в източна Азия после мигрират в близост до прабългарите в Европа.
Many medieval historians knew of the state of the Volga Bolgars, which flourished from the ninth to twelfth centuries. Even the great English historian and philosopher Roger Bacon, in his "Opus Magnum" written in the second half of the thirteenth century, stated: "Further on, beyond Etilia, the Kuman principality borders of the north with Great Bolgaria, where the Bolgars come from, who live between Constantinople, Hungary and Slavonia. --->>
Bacon, Roger, DOCTOR MIRABILIS (LATIN: "WONDERFUL TEACHER"), English Franciscan philosopher and educational reformer who was a major medieval proponent of experimental science. Roger Bacon who were among Bulgarians (Tatars) in his "Opus majus" written 1267/68 states: ..Small Bolgaria is in Europe and there they speak in the language of the Bolgars who live in Great Bolgaria, which is in Asia...". --->>
-->>So the language of Bulgarians in 13 Cent. wasnt Slav, but actually Turko-Tatar. ("Kazan. The Enchanted Capital" (Flint River Press Ltd, London, 1995).
Today in all surrounding area of the river of Volga live a few Bulgarian people Bulgars-Tatar, Chuvash and Al-Marinc. Novaday's Balkan Bulgarian originate from Volga, today's Tatrstan or Bulgarostan (old name). They identified them selves as Bulgars, and their language is Bulgarian language - Turkic group. [Kashgari Makhmud, 1960, 66-68; Kononov AN, 1972, 14]. [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51], [Vorobev NI, 1948, 80; kid KI, 1964, 20-21], [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51].
дори и ти ако забележиш годината няма как да не ти стане ясно че тук не се касае България а Стара Велика България виж годината 679 г. а моята България е създадена през 681 г.
In the 7th century the Turko-Mongolic Bulgars for a very first time entered Europe from their original Asian home, invaded Thrace, and subdued the Thracians and Slavs. Since this moment the mix between the Bulgar intruders, Thracians, and Slavs will result in the formation of the modern Bulgarian nation.
затова днес над 360 000 българи живеят в Украйна.110 000 в Молдова. 80 000 в Сърбия над 400 000 са останали в Гърция.8 000 в Румъния и 10 000 в Унгария. Това са наследниците на онези българи предпочели свободата тогава когато ние сме били под робство
vo Grcija 400 000?? da ne imas nekoja greska?? hahah Pa vo egejska Makedonija i vo Istocna Trakija nemalo nikogas Bulgari, osven ako Makedoncite gi smetas za turki?? No bilo kako i da e ne e voopsto vazno, Gaycite ne priznavaat nikogo, bez razlika kako se vika i sto e. Kaj niv vazi ona Ako e krsten togas e Grk, a ako ne e togas e Turcin...Muslim..
Ти си в грешка!Аз македонците си ги смятам за гърци а бюрмците за българи. Аз на тебе ли(промит мозък)ще вярвам или на себе си?И България и Гърция сме УНИТАРНИ държави и никого не признаваме освен себе си!Погледни Украинската уикипедия за българите !
ti si vo edna golema greska... samo bla bla bla. Od tebe ne vidov ni eden argument ili fakt. imaj si ubav den uzivaj vo letoto ne dremi na internet za dzabe..
ами да правилно е нека не забравяме че сме се зародили сред море от тюркски народи. Балхара е граничила само със такива. "Ние сме споделяли общ хляб със тях" Ние сме със арийски произход (в превод : бели иранци) ние делим общи неща със иранците .
The people in Bulgaria in XVIII and XIX Cent were declaring themselves as Serbs and Greeks, but not as Bulgarians. Bulgarian history sources say that people of Bulgaria hated the Bulgarians and Bulgarian name (Source: Slavianob`lgarska Istoriya - "Славянобългарска история" "Паисий Хилендарски" "Georgiev Kosta, Filetizm ili proklyatie, Sofia 1995 - Георгиев Коста, "Филетизъм или проклятие" София, 1995.)
Не е вярно. Ние сме се освободили доста по късно. Гърците ,сърбите румънците - са се освободили със поне половин век по рано. А ние 1878г. И много българи са напуснали родните си земи. Но никога не са мразили българският си корен и т.н.
the cyrillian alphabet was made by cyrill i metodi and they where from the aegean part of macedonia
who said that they were bulgars none said so the history books say macedonia then it is macedonia fuck bulgari cigans kradete ko cigani ebem vi matter odete nazat vo mongolia pizdi cigani
Makedonski pederasi sega shte vi kaja neshto istorichesko.Gospod e sazdal balgarina ot kal,vidial che mu lipsva neshto.Napravil mu dupka na gaza i ot kalta vzeta ot tazi dupka e napravil makedonskite utrepliaci .Dali sme vi ezik a vie go izpolzvate da ni psuvate.Bokluci neshtastni.Makedonia e nai-izostanalata Balgarska provincia
Oh my GOOOOOD!Now they are telling me just the next stupidity!Cyrillyc was made IN BULGARIA by Kiril and Metodi who was a BULGARIAN BROTHERS!This is history and u are playing here with it with your stupid,idiot movies!Fucking liers!But the most important thing is that WE KNOW THE TRUTH,and u know it too but u are sooo angry that we are just better country at this part of Europe!!!
Bulgars, (Chuvash, Gagauzes and Tatars) in Russia write in Cyrilic alphabet. If you think that they have invent that alphabet then you got right! hahhahha Stupid GANCHOS!!!!
Yeah, macedonians created the Cyrillic Alphabet during the rule of their greatest king - King Josip Broz Tito, who ordered to be created the perfect alphabet for his fictional nation since 1992 year ;P
CYRILLIC ALPHABET=MACEDONIAN ALPHABET
CAKIMacedonian 6 days ago
All I can say is, thank god for macidonia!
makedonec702 3 months ago
Македонија-Мајка на Кирилицата!
Macedonia -Motherland of Cyrilic
Bulgaria need to stop stealing history as usual
HappyFace877 3 months ago
@HappyFace877 тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак тъпак
merry0407 3 months ago
@HappyFace877 To be mother or father you must exist! Did Macedonia exist in 9th century? Complicated question I think!
За да бъдеш някакъв трябва преди това да съществуваш, аз мисля! Коя Македония е майка на кирилицата? Македония като държава и народ не съществуват от 200 година преди Христа, тоест 1000 (хиляда) години преди Кирилицата! Как тогава ще сте майка?
Коя славянска държава приема учениците на Кирил и Методий близо до сегашен Белград?, Не, не е Вашият окупатор, Сърбия! Била е БЪЛГАРИЯ!
1966navis 2 months ago
Ја волим ћирилицу више јер је занимљивије и слова изгледају цооер него у Латинској је јасно и умерено. хехехе
BadBitchJordynn 3 months ago
Bulgaria - a motherland of Cyrilic alphabet!
MrNacko28 4 months ago
@Askar590 you mean the Katon?
luvpinas123 9 months ago
The modern Cyrillic alphabet originated from the Russian Cyrillic alphabet found 1708. Until that year in use was only the Church Slavonic Cyrillic alphabet.
The 1708 decision of Peter I (achieved by 1710) was to be replaced by the newer Cyrillic, so-called Civil letter. In this way, the Cyrillic
graph version (uppercase and lowercase letters, printed and written letters) and
shape of some letters which are somewhat closer to Latin.
tripleMboy 1 year ago
--->> Contemporary Slavic Cyrillic letters are between 30 and 33 graphemes (the letter graphemes the totality of possible its realization: the same letter as large, small, printed, written, etc..), and 24 graphemes are common to all Slavic
Cyrillic letters: А, Б, В, Г, Д, Е, Ж, 3, И, К, Л, М, Н, О, П, Р, С, Т, У, Ф, X,
Ц, Ч, Ш. --->>
tripleMboy 1 year ago
--->>In addition to these common graphemes certain Slavic letters have
and other graphemes:
- Belarusian Cyrillic ДЖ, ДЗ, Ё, I, Й, Ў, Ы, Ь, Э, Ю, Я;
- Bulgarian Cyrillic Й, Щ, Ъ, Ь, Ю, Я;
- Macedonian Cyrillic Ѓ, S, Ј, Љ, Њ, Ќ, Џ;
- Russian Cyrillic Ё, Й, Щ, Ъ, Ы, Ь, Э, Ю, Я;
- Serbian Cyrillic Ђ, Ј, Љ, Њ, Ћ, Џ;
- Ukrainian Cyrillic Є, ІЇ, Й, Щ, Ь, Ю, Я;
- Rusnies Cyrilic: Ґ, Є, Ї, Й, Щ, Ю, ЯЬ;
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@tripleMboy A GDZIE RESZTA LITER? Z TEGO CO WIEM TO JEST ICH 33 TU NAWET TYLE NIE MA I ZLE SA WYPISAE NIE TA KOLEJNOSC WSTYD!!!!!
kasiulenka29 1 year ago
@kasiulenka29 english plz... sorry but I didn't understand what you wanna say...
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@tripleMboy sorry but you write too much bullshit read some history god damnit.The cyrillic alphabet which originated from the glagolitic was written for the bulgarians to use it for their language(old-bulgarian not slavic)thanks to the brother Saints Cyril and Methodius who were invited by the Bulgarian king Boris the first in 886.All other slavic countries have a modified(if you could say) language connected with the cyrillic
nemurad 9 months ago
@nemurad Realy??? hahaha what language is that?? Ongur or utigur?? hahahh
tripleMboy 9 months ago
@nemurad The brothers Saints Cyril and Methodius never been invited by the Ongurian khan Boris, not in 886, not later. They were invited by Moravian Prince Rostislav, and were sent in Christianity mission in great Moravia by Byzantine Emperor Michail II. The inventor of Cyrillic alphabet was St Clement of Ochrida , one of the ST Cyril and Methodious pupils, who after the death of St Methodious he returned back to Byzantium. I m so sorry for you poor Bulgarians and you fake nationalism...
tripleMboy 9 months ago
@tripleMboy thank you for denying REAL historical FACTS,i presume you are some idiotic kid with no brains but here is what you should do:
study more history
get your facts straight
fuck yourself cuz you are a total retard who needs to get beaten with stones to the head..
It is really funny when some shits like you deny historical facts proven by proffesors archeologists,etc..
just go die and stop wasting the air meant for ppl not trash
nemurad 9 months ago
@nemurad very strong facts and arguments... btw on the entire Balkan Peninsula you cannot find any archeological detail, finding which belong to Ongur people or Utigurs...
tripleMboy 9 months ago
@tripleMboy St Clement is a Macedonian maybe ? lol he's a Bulgarian as were the other students of Cyril and Methodius
pastet2x2 3 months ago
@pastet2x2
makedonskaiskra . c o m /mk/istorijaideologija/makedonskaistorija/703-----xi
Macedonian Cyrillic paper from 11 AD
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tripleMboy 3 months ago
makedonia is a real country fag i have been there alot of time and to other countrys in eruope. is a very nice there mostly in and around the citys.
Starr8492DS 1 year ago
@TheAlienPower Better check again your science fiction history books, maybe after Atlantida (the Great Bulgar civilization) :)))) maybe you can find some Indian Bulgarian ascendant of Han Asparuk hahhahah
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@TheAlienPower haahah the are you OK? you said: "Macedonian Soil" WTF-Macedonia only developed as a country after the fall of the Ottoman Empire there was no Macedonia before that! hahah Macedonian kingdom exist 5 centuries after Alexander the Great. The Great Eastern Roman Empire was established on the base of the Macedonian Empire, to glorify The Great Macedonian Empire. All roman emperors have title Macedonian, no matter of their true origin.
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@TheAlienPower during the time of Cyril and Methodius there wasn't Bulgarian on the Macedonian soil. That Turkic - Altaic tribes comes along Danub river not in Macedonia. Bulgarian are by Turkic-Mongolian origin not by Slav or Thracian. Can you explain what the name Bulgar or Bulgarian means? Is that Slav word, simbiolize some Slavopnic tradition and Culture??? :)) Do you by what origine are Khazars, Chuvash and Tatars???
tripleMboy 1 year ago
Great, another brain washed retard macedonian...
MrAbsurde 2 years ago
The brothers Cyrl and Methodii were half Bulgarians half Greek. Dont talk bulsh1t please. They toke a mision from Byzantion Imperator to create alphabet for the Slavs and Bulgars that lived north from the Empire, so they can use it and spreading of cristianity to be more easier. This is a political act of Byzantian Empire. Bulgaria was the first country who accept it since The brothers were half Bulgarian, also their students came in Bulgaria and started to teach others.
Jigov 2 years ago
heyyy wake up!! Do you know when Bulgars entered in Macedonia?? (Bulgar are not a Slav). There were no Bulgars in the time of St Ciryl and St Methodious in Salonica and surrounding area. Bulgars in that time were in Asia, around the Black sea and along the river Danube, far away from macedonia, Thrace and City of Salonica. Do you have any fact or something like that to prove you comment, or just you wish to be like that, like in a cartoons!! haha
tripleMboy 2 years ago
what?????? do you realise that we had country since 681 there, and there is no Makeodonians as a nation. FYROM was created 1991. please stop lie the people.And also tell me why the Alphabet was called ''Slavianobulgarksa'' Slavinian-Bulgarian'' thats the original name. And about Cyril and Methodii, yes they are Half Bulgarians half Greeks, it is prooved by Byzantian hronists, the guy who write the history for his imperator. Stop lieng people about histroy, your FYROM was created 1991. sry.
Jigov 2 years ago
what?????? first: that alphabet was called Glagolica. Second: they, St Cyril and Methodious were Slav apostles, not Turkic Bulgarian! Third: Do you know where was the state of Khan Asparuh in 681 AD??? fourth: Stop with your lies and stop fast reading toilet paper!!!
tripleMboy 2 years ago
LOL 681 is the year when Khan Asparuh won the war against Byzantia and Increased Bulgarian territroy south from Danube. Alphabet was created 200 later LOL. retard. When Bulgarian nation was already created which includes Bulgarians,Slavs and Thrakians - Mizia, THrakia,Dobrudja,Makedonia thats all Bulgarians (aka Bulgarians,Thrakians,Slavs). There is still a reward of 1 milion evro for at least 1 proof of Makedonian nation LOL try you best chance.... 1 milion evro go go go monkeydonian
Jigov 2 years ago
history of Bulgars: Let's see who they are:
1).
Proto- Bulgarians were people that had inhabited the steppes between Pamir, Middle Asian Mountain, Ural and the territory of present day Kazakhstan. After almost two centuries of research and the endeavors of many scientists, the sacred fatherland of the Bulgarians was discovered to be Pamir.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
2)
Pamir is the old lands of Balgar and is still called Palgar by the local Tadziks. Bulgarian is an Uralo-Altai language under strong Indo-European influence. According to the Chinese chronicles the town Bugur had existed until 87 AD, which later was demolished to the ground by the Chinese imperial troops.There are various assumptions as to the origin of the name 'Bulgarian'.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
3)
According to some hypothesis, 'Bulgarian' designates a man who tanns or deals in hides; according to another, the name derives from 'Bulga' - the name of an animal that lived in the steppes of Central Asia and was renowned for its fine fur, and which in all likelihood was a Proto-Bulgarian totem centuries BC. A third hypothesis says that the name Bulgar means, in the Turkish of the time, people of mixed race.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
4)
In 632 AD, Khan Kubrat unites politically all Bulgarians tribes of the Azov and the Caspian Sea, founding the first state of the Bulgarians in Europe - Bulgaria Magna, called by the Armenians "The Bulgarian Land in Caucasus", and by the Byzantine "The Great Old Bulgaria." The capital of the first Bulgarian state is Fanagoria located at the Taman (Crimea) peninsula.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
5)
he youngest son of Kubrat, Asparukh led his horde (some 250-300 thousand people) westward across the Dniester River, and then southward across the Danube. There, on the plain between the Danube, the Black Sea, and the Balkan Mountains, they established the First Bulgarian Kingdom in 681 AD in a part od the territory of the modern Bulgarian state.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
ty for the Bulgarian lessons, i think i know my history, i am happy that other people are interested in it too. Just tell me what exactly this proofs that Cyril and Methodii were Makedonian, or is there makedonian nation at all? i am telling you... 1 milion evro award for 1 proof of makedonian nation GO GO GO
Jigov 2 years ago
Very simple: Bulgars are not by Slav origin. Bulgars up to 11 century speak turkic-altaic tonge (tehre are many script writen with greek letters). During the time of St Cyril and Methodious there is not Bulgarian in Salonica and surrounding area, no evidence! The Holy Brothers made Glagolica on a base of Slavs dialect spoken in Salonica. Bulgars become christian 50 years after mission of Holy Brothers in Moravia, After their deaths, not before........
tripleMboy 2 years ago
man you oposite to yourself. in prevous msges we came at 681 now you say we wasnt here? i think if you continue to use your imagination for science you will end up with those white shirts that they give to the crazy people, yuo know where... bb i am not speaking with crazy people, i am Bachelor of Cultural History i dont need your information from Serbian comunists.. thank you for your interest about our Great country Bulgaria, i know you are jelous us.
Jigov 2 years ago
is very clear that you don't understand what you read, or maybe you can not read? Where was that Bulgaria from 681? see what i wrote: on the plain between the Danube, the Black Sea, and the Balkan Mountains, they established the First Bulgarian Khahanate in Europe in 681 AD in a part of the territory of the modern Bulgarian state. whole Macedonia and part of Thrace weren't part of that Khahanate! Bulgarian queasy Historians want to present opposite but without any proofs and facts,
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Bulgaria from 681 AD was KHAHANATE, and not a Kingdom! Ruled by KHAN, which was Turkic-Altaic Title. The term Khan was used by Turks and Mongolian as well as Bulgarian.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
bulgaria adoption Christianity in 864. A small number of population become christian in the beggining. During the years Christianity was adopted by all Bulgarians! Macedonian were already Christian long time ago, We were the First Christians in Europe, since mission of st Paul in Macedonia. Only Christians can give missioners for Holy mission, not non-Christian!
tripleMboy 2 years ago
In 862, both brothers were to enter upon the work which gives them their historical importance. That year the Prince Rastislav of Great Moravia requested that the Emperor Michael III and the Patriarch Photius send missionaries to evangelize his Slavic subjects. His motives in doing so were probably more political than religious. Rastislav had become king with the support of the Frankish ruler Louis the German, but subsequently sought to assert his independence from the Franks. -->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
-->>It is a common misconception that Cyril and Methodius were the first to bring Christianity to Moravia, but the letter from Rastislav to Michael III states clearly that Rastislav's people "had already rejected paganism and adhere to the Christian law." The Emperor quickly chose to send Constantine, accompanied by his brother Methodius, stating "You two are from Thessaloniki, and all Thessalonians speak pure Slavonic"
tripleMboy 2 years ago
look what Bulgarian quasi-historians like Bojidar Dimitrov and similar idiots like him write about these historical things. They roughly falsify the history. Only totally illiterate and stupid can believe in their science fiction history. --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Bulgarian science fiction history by BD looks like following: let's see what they say about that: "It is assumed that the Bulgars were greatly outnumbered by the Slav population among whom they had settled. Between the 7th and the 10th centuries, the Bulgars were gradually absorbed by the Slavs, adopting a Bulgaro-South Slav language[21] and converting to Christianity (of the Byzantine rite) under Boris I in 864".
tripleMboy 2 years ago
this is realy science-fiction, and must be nominated for oscar! look it: "Bulgars were greatly outnumbered by the Slav population... but in the fact Bulgars were Assimilated by Slav, forget their own language and adopted Slav language. The question is not what that happend, but how that happend??
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Pure classical falsification!!
hahahha
tripleMboy 2 years ago
@Jigov during the time of Cyril and Methodius there wasn't Bulgarian on the Macedonian soil. That Turkic - Altaic tribes comes along Danub river not in Macedonia. Bulgarian are by Turkic - Mongolian origin, not Slavs.
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@tripleMboy Wrong again. Khanas Ubigii Asparuh took the lands around Danuve river, but his brother took the lands in Makedonia (NB: From the Greeks not from local makedonians lol - what a joke) The other brother went in West Balkans and than italiy - Alzek. one of them staied in "Old Great Bulgaria" and than fall down from avars. the last one went north and created Volga Bulgaria and was one of the strongest countries - Cities of Kazan, Biliar... go back to school please.
Jigov 1 year ago
@Jigov hahahha now you said that all Balkan have Turkic roots? hahah Everyone in the Balkan have Turkic blood, but no one speak Turkic language, except Bulgar up to 13 century AD and Turks after that time.... Are you all right man???
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@tripleMboy Where i said it? or you become shizofrenic here trying to talk bad things about your homeland Bulgaria... traitor, god will punish you.
Jigov 1 year ago
@Jigov sorry man... Macedonian never been Bulgarian. My homeland is MACEDONIA, whatever you like or not!!! Your Turkic roots makes you brother by blood with Turks not with us, we are completely different, doesn't matter do you like that or not! :)))
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@tripleMboy I am sorry but there is no coutnry makedonia. There is region in Bulgaria called makedonia, it was never a separate country it has always been Bulgarian territroy, before that it was greek territory. Thats it. If you cannot accept your 20 years old history .. good luck.
Jigov 1 year ago 10
@Jigov Only Pirin Part of Macedonia is a region in Bulgaria after 1913, the rest of Macedonia is part of Bulgaria only in your Dreams...:))))
tripleMboy 1 year ago
@tripleMboy @tripleMboy I Don't understand why Macedonians like you try and change history. Macedonia was in fact part of Bulgaria and this is a fact. I read most of what you wrote and it is all, im sorry to say it to you like this, bullshit. I also find it funny how Macedonians always talk shit on Bulgaria but at the first opportunity they get, the move to Bulgaria. So please, think before you write something moronic and totally un-true. We are all brothers here from the Balkans.
pimpninja1985 1 year ago 6
@tripleMboy Your homeland is dirty Shumadia, you pig!
GingleGangle1 1 year ago
@GingleGangle1 And your Homeland is Republic of Tatarstan xD
MrShadowFreak132 1 year ago
@tripleMboy I Don't understand why Macedonians like you try and change history. Macedonia was in fact part of Bulgaria and this is a fact. I read most of what you wrote and it is all, im sorry to say it to you like this, bullshit. I also find it funny how Macedonians always talk shit on Bulgaria but at the first opportunity they get, the move to Bulgaria. So please, think before you write something moronic and totally un-true. We are all brothers here from the Balkans.
pimpninja1985 1 year ago
@pimpninja1985 BULGARIANS, GREEKS, SERBIANS, AND ALBANIANS DIVIDED AND OCCUPY MACEDONIA. IN SERBIA, AND IN BULGARIA, AND IN GREECE AND IN ALBANIA, MACEDONIANS HAVE NO HUMAN RIGHTS. MACEDONIANS ONLY HAVE 1 NAME, MACEDONIAN.
makegoHuja 1 year ago
@Jigov during the time of Cyril and Methodius there wasn't Bulgarian on the Macedonian soil. That Turkic - Altaic tribes comes along Danub river not in Macedonia.
tripleMboy 1 year ago
All the countries with chirilic alfabet are russians(fact)
timisica 2 years ago
Кириллица была создана в Македонии
Stojanovski7 2 years ago
St Cyril & Methodious created an Alphabet called Glagolica for their mission in Eastern Europe Moravia (today Chez and Slovakia). They used simple signs from everyday living. According to some archeological facts, Cyrillic alphabet existed before Glagolica. The Holy Brothers from Salonica created an alphabet on the language which they spoke in that time i.e macedonian, not on the tongue spoken in Moravia. This is fact! Can you show me some fact, what was Proto Moravian or proto Russian lang?
tripleMboy 2 years ago
All so called Slavic nations, Slavic speaker's nations, spoke a laguage which was addopted together with the Glagolic alphabet in 10th century. Nobody knows what was the tongue which they speak before 10th century. By one simple logic, that was macedonian language, because the Glagolic was created in macedonia, there were no Bulgarian in Macedonia and Tracia in that time, and weren't Bulgarian, because proto-bulgarian in that time as new arrivals, already spoke on thier own Turkic tongue.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Also, Macedonian were Christian in that time, the proof is the mission of the Holy brothers. In history is well known that Bulgarian and other so called nation become christian later. Bulgarian become christian after Moravians.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
other so called Slavic nation...
tripleMboy 2 years ago
И Зайо Байо и Кума Лиса и Кумчо Вълчо и Баба Яга и Дядо Турбалан. Всички са македонци нали ?
MrZarko 2 years ago
TATARI NE SE SIGURNO............
tripleMboy 2 years ago
фуу за пръв път да те видя да пишеш на нещо различно от английски език на български диалектен език, бравоооо.
MrZarko 2 years ago
Firomanci i Isus e makedonec nali ? Kakto i Obama i toi e makedonec.
GLespaul21 2 years ago
All of them except you ... you are Tatars!!!
tripleMboy 2 years ago
You are being racist again you dumbass, like seriously saying you are Tatars I don't really care at least I ADMIT IT AND IT WAS MY HISTORY UNLIKE YOUR PATHETIC "COUNTRY" WHICH HAS STOLEN FROM EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HISTORY, CULTURE, LANGUAGE AND ETC... YOU ARE PATHETIC YOU ARE COPY CATS YOU ARE UNORIGINAL AND YOU ARE WEAK BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT ADMIT YOUR TRUE HISTORICAL ROOTS SO YOU CAN ALL GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF DOPES!
GLespaul21 2 years ago
an other pathetic tatar !!! hahaha
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Makedonski pederasi sega shte vi kaja neshto istorichesko.Gospod e sazdal balgarina ot kal,vidial che mu lipsva neshto.Napravil mu dupka na gaza i ot kalta vzeta ot tazi dupka e napravil makedonskite utrepliaci .Dali sme vi ezik a vie go izpolzvate da ni psuvate.Bokluci neshtastni.Makedonia e nai-izostanalata Balgarska provincia
peterheaven 2 years ago
you're not just pathetic, but stupid uneducated tatar. Macedonia as a country and as a name is at least 15 centuries older than Bulgaria! Bulgars are not Balkan people, even not Slavs. Bulgars are Turko-Mongolian Tatars. You are may be from the ass hole of Jingis Khann in your Tatar story laegend about Bulgars. hahhaah
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply, Bulgarian. ^-^
GLespaul21 2 years ago
not a problem Tatar!!! :)
tripleMboy 2 years ago
I love you, Bulgar :D
GLespaul21 2 years ago
И Аллах според тях е "македонец". А баба Ванга която толкова верни неща е изказала за тях. И тя е обявена за "македонка".
MrZarko 2 years ago
kolku sto mene mi e poznato Vanga e od Strumica, rodena i izrastena vo toj grad, a vo Strumica nikogas nemalo TATARI, nema ni sega, pa niti ke ima TATARI vo idnina. TATARITE se istocno od Kjustendil......
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Ами и ние го знаем това че е родена през 1911 г. и починала в Петрич, ама през това десетилетие градът е бил в територията на България до 1917г. Иначе ДА там никога не е имало татари и сега няма. Там има само българи.
MrZarko 2 years ago
Bugarite se Tatari........ sto znaci nema ni Bugari...... a ako sakas mozes da pojdes vo Strumica i da vidime dali ke najedes nekoj Bugarin tamu, izvini Tatar??
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Кой го е казал открил и доказал това, кой кой коой коой койкойкой кой ... коой кой койкой ... КОЙ ??? Що не излезе и със ръка на сърцето да каже : Аз открих еде си какво и заявявам че българите са татари ???
MrZarko 2 years ago
Dali znaes koja e ethogenezata na Bugarite? Dali bugarite se Slovenski narod, i ako se objasnija ja ethogenezata i objasni go imeto Bulgar, Bugarin, Bulgaria???
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Еей , аз имам генетическо изследване !!! И със повече от 100 % сигурност мога да ти кажа че сме славянски народ !!! Колкото и да е отричано това в твоята държавица. А ти имаш ли такова изследване ?? Какъв ли ти е произхода ?-сигурно пак Бюрмски.
MrZarko 2 years ago
ne te prasuvam licno za tebe..... od kaj da znam sto si ti??? te prasav za Bugarite i ne dobiv nikakov odgovor samo bla bla bla......
tripleMboy 2 years ago
eve nesto za tebe .... da naucis....
1. The roots of the Macedonians are in ancient Macedonia in Europe since 8th century BC, while the roots of the Bulgarians are in the Turko-Morgilic Bulgars who came to Europe from Asia in the 7th century AD. While the Bulgars are intruders in the Balkans, the Macedonians had preserved their name through the centuries and evidence shows that they have always associated themselves with the ancient Macedonians. ===>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
2. When the Macedonian king Alexander the Great (336-323 BC) conquered Asia, he too conquered ancient Bulgaria. In the writings of the ancient historian Pseudo-Calisthenes there is a list of the nations that the Macedonians conquered and the Bulgars are on that list along with the Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, and the other conquered nations ---->>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
3. When Rome conquered the Balkans, Macedonia and its eastern neighbor Thrace became part of the Roman Empire. In the late 4th century AD with the split of the Roman Empire, Macedonia and Thrace became part of the East Roman (or Byzantine) Empire. ---->>>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
4. In the 6th century the Slavs invaded the Balkans including Macedonia and Thrace and settled among the ancient Macedonians and Thracians. ----->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
5. In the 7th century the Turko-Mongolic Bulgars for a very first time entered Europe from their original Asian home, invaded Thrace, and subdued the Thracians and Slavs. Since this moment the mix between the Bulgar intruders, Thracians, and Slavs will result in the formation of the modern Bulgarian nation.
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tripleMboy 2 years ago
6. The Bulgars also attacked Macedonia, Epirus, Serbia, conquered parts of these lands, and held them for some time but never permanently. Modern Bulgarian historiography claims that the Bulgar conquest of parts of Macedonia transformed the Macedonians and the Slavs in Macedonia into Bulgarians. The claim is quite ridiculous and easily dismissed for the following main reasons: -------->>>>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->>a) There is NO recorded settlement of Bulgars in Macedonia as there is recorded the settlement of the Slavs among the Macedonians, or as is recorded the settlement of Bulgars among the Thracians and Slavs in Thrace. --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->>b) The Bulgar intrusion into Macedonia was nothing but a temporary conquest by foreign armies. Because it was a temporary conquest it is impossible to imagine that the Macedonians suddenly "evolved" into Bulgarians. The case is identical with Serbia since the Bulgarian armies also conquered that country. The Serbians as we know did not turn into Bulgarians either. ---->>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->>>Likewise the conquest of Russia of the Caucasus countries did not turn these people into Russians despite both of centuries of occupation and Russian settlements among the natives.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
---->>c) The Romans held Macedonia for more then 12 centuries and yet the Macedonians continued to be mentioned as nation in Byzantine sources, both before and after the Bulgarian conquest. Thus, since the Romans did not turn the Macedonians into Romans after 12 centuries it is more then impossible that the Bulgarians could have turned them into Bulgarians after holding parts of that land over a miniscule period of time.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
7. Modern Bulgarian historiography also claims that the apostle brothers St. Cyril and Methodius from the 10th century, who came from the largest Macedonian city Salonica were Bulgarians. However such claim is also impossible since Salonica was never taken by the Bulgarians. The city obviously kept its original Macedonian population since Byzantine records of those times call it "the largest city of the Macedonians". Thus, --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->>Cyril and Methodius could not be anything else but Macedonians. Cyril and Methodius' father was an important Macedonian in Salonica. It is simply impossible that he or his sons even looked like the typical Turko-Mongolic Bulgarians from the 11th century.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
8. Modern Bulgarian historiography denies that the modern Macedonians are descendents of the ancient Macedonians, but ironically it recognizes that the modern Bulgarians are descendents of the ancient Thracians. Right away they contradict themselves since it is impossible to imagine that the Thracians existed in the 7th century when the Bulgars settled among them, while the ancient Macedonians somehow disappeared a century earlier when the Slavs settled Macedonia. --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->> The fact that the Macedonians are mentioned as nation and Slavs are mentioned as living side by side by them in Macedonia in the following centuries by the Byzantine historians is proof that the Macedonians did not mysteriously cease to exist. It also proves that the modern Bulgarian historians are attempting to falsify the history of the Macedonian nation to their likes, although unsuccessfully.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
9. The Turks entered Europe in the 14th century with the help of the Turko-Mongolic Bulgars conquered the Balkan countries, including Macedonia and Thrace.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
10. After centuries of ruthless oppression, the Balkan peoples lost a clear ethnic identification. The Greeks called themselves Romanoi, the Bulgarians called themselves Serbs, Greeks and Bulgars, while the Macedonians called themselves Balcan people, Christians, Bulgarians, Slavs, but also Macedonians. --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->>There are Russian, Austrian, German, English sources since the 15th centuries which mention the existence of the Macedonians among their neighbors Serbians, Greeks, and Bulgarians. Furthermore written records show that Macedonians claimed a lineage from Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
11. In the 19th century when nationalism swept the Balkans and the Greek and Bulgarians strove to develop their own Greek and Bulgarian nationality, so did the Macedonians strove to develop their own Macedonian nationality and consciousness. More and more cases are reported where the Macedonians claimed a distinct nationality as direct descendents of the ancient Macedonians and Alexander the Great. ---->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
--->> The Macedonian rebellions against the Turks in the 19th century, the deeds of the Macedonian intellectuals, and the Macedonian folk and literature have brought up this strong national awakening.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
12. Having open appetite to Macedonian land, Bulgaria did everything to suppress the development of the Macedonian national awakening and many Macedonians who fought against the Turks and sought refuge ended up in Bulgarian prisons, or were betrayed and surrendered to the Turks. Such examples were Alexander of Ohrid, father Theodosie of Skopje who attempted to form an independent Macedonian church, Gotse Delchev, Jane Sandanski, Gjorche Petrov, and countless others.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
13. That the Bulgarians tried everything to falsify the history of the Macedonians we find proof in the recent discovery of a stone inscription which states that the Macedonians of the 10th century and Czar Samoil were Bulgarians. However, the stone was examined by the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences in Sofia and its director himself declared that the inscription was a 19th century Bulgarian fabrication. ===>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Thus we have obtained a clear proof that the Bulgars have been falsifying the history of the Macedonians for more then a century. If Tsar Samoil was indeed a "Bulgar", there would have been no need to use falsifications in order to show that. It is obvious that the falsifiers were aware that that neither Samoil nor the Macedonians were Bulgar and with that in mind they created the forgery. Needless to say, modern historiography calls the Bulgarian claims that Samoil was a Bulgarian - absurd.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
14. Yet the Bulgarians also contradict themselves in their claim that the Macedonians were "Bulgarians". There are Bulgarian historians like Draganov and Slaveykov, who even since the 19th century admitted that the Macedonians were not Bulgarians but a distinct nation with its own language, culture, and ethnicity.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
15. In 1913 Bulgaria, and her allies Serbia and Greece, with the help of more then 100,000 Macedonians who fought along these three armies, drove the Turks out of Macedonia, but Macedonia did not gain its freedom. Instead, the Balkan countries partitioned Macedonia among themselves and Bulgaria occupied 13% of the whole territory, called Pirin Macedonia.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
16. Bulgaria now begun an open assimilatory politics against the Macedonians, just like Greece did in Aegean Macedonia, and proclaimed that the Macedonians of Pirin are Bulgarians. Any opposition was brutally suppressed.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
17. After helping the Turks to occupy the Balkans in the 14th century, the Bulgarians again sided with the dark side in World War II (1941-1945). As fascist allies of Hitler, the Bulgarian armies occupied the previously occupied Greek and Serbian parts of Macedonia.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
18. But the Macedonians defeated the Bulgarian fascist troops and after the war, the government of Bulgaria on August 9, 1946 officially recognized the Macedonian nation and the right of the Pirin part of Macedonia to be attached to the Peoples Republic of Macedonia.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
19. The Macedonians in Bulgaria exist as separate nationality on all Bulgarian censuses after the end of World War II. The demography data from 1946 revealed that the majority of the population in the Pirin part of Macedonia declared itself as Macedonian in a free census. A period of cultural autonomy and affirmation of the Macedonian national and cultural values had begun. ==>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
===>>The Macedonian literary language and the national history have been introduced into the educational process. Almost 32,000 pupils were included into the teaching of Macedonian. In 1947 in Gorna Djumaja (Blagoevgrad nowadays) the first Macedonian bookstore and reading room were opened, as well as the Regional Macedonian National Theater. ===>>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
===>>The newspapers in Macedonian such as "Pirinsko delo", "Nova Makedonija", "Mlad Borec" etc. were also published. Literary circles and cultural and artistic associations were founded contributing to the spreading of the Macedonian culture. In the Bulgarian census of 1956, the majority of the population of Pirin again declared itself Macedonian.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
20. However, since 1956 Bulgaria has altered her attitude, negating again the existence of the Macedonian nation and forbidding the free expression of Macedonian nationality and language. ---->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
---->>The idea was enforced and as result, in the census of 1965, the number of Macedonians suddenly dropped to only 8,750 and in the district of Blagoevgrad which previously had the highest percentage of Macedonians, it was "mysteriously" less than 1%. Yet the Macedonians in Bulgaria begun organizing themselves and in 1989, United Macedonian Organization - Ilinden (OMO Ilinden) was formed, demanding cultural and national autonomy for the Macedonians in Pirin.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
21. Like Greece, Bulgaria stands accused by the international human rights organizations Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International for denying the Macedonians of Pirin their basic human rights to identify themselves as Macedonians. --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
===>>Nevertheless it is recognized that the Macedonians exist in Bulgaria with their own national consciousness and consist a sizable minority. They organize themselves despite the pressures and intimidation of the Bulgarian police, and continue to peacefully demand their rights which the Bulgarians stripped them off since their army took over Pirin Macedonia in 1913.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
понеже стана въпрос откъде е дошло името българи. БЪЛГХ- означава "висок, голям". Сходно е със думата БУРЗАН - висок пръв,благословен. Ето какво означава. А не, както вие бюрмците го тълкувате като "булка". Вие в кой виц се намирате ???
MrZarko 2 years ago
The Turk-Bulgarian word Uzzi means Bulgarians, and so there are todays Gaga-Uzi, ie Gaga-Bulgarians (IMAN Bakhshi, "DJAGFAR Tarihi" (The Annals of DJAGFAR), Volume 3, KUL GALIA, HON KITABY (BOOK OF HUNS), 28/29). The current Bulgarians from Uzbekistan call themselves UZBEK, which means to be Bulgarian.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Gagauz i.e. Bulgarians, as well as all other Christians in Ottomans Empire were subjected to pressures that moved in Islam by their Ottoman brothers, and because many of them together with their neighbours slavophons Anto-Thracian (Slavs) from Dobruja, after Rusko-Turkish War in 18 AD moved to Bessarabia, today Ukraine and Moldova, the Russian territory until 1918, and later USSR. -->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
---->> The Russian censuses of the population these people call Bulgarians, which can be seen from the Russian historical documents from 19 AD. (Скальковский 1836-1838, 1848, Бугньон 1853: 198, Свиньин 1867: 175, Могилянский 1913: 85).
tripleMboy 2 years ago
кво ма блазни мене думата Узи. Тука говорим за името на българите. БЪЛГХ - висок ,благословен. Тук аз откривам нещо много по-различно. И пак ще те попитам Какъв ти е майчиният език ???
MrZarko 2 years ago
Sto e vazno kakov mi e mene ili tebe majciniot jazik, nie tuka zboruvame za Bugarite i za Makedoncite, sto mesas tuka licni stvari.......
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Ами и аз те попитах нещо ама ДРЪН ДРЪН от твоя страна. И не искам да ми цитираш бюрмски изказвания от сърбомани на английски език !
MrZarko 2 years ago
ova mozebi go razbiras podobro, od kogo e napisano ova:
Първоначалната история на българите несъмнено трябва да търсим в историята на ония средно-азиатски турски народи, които са известни под общо име хун-ну (Hiong-nu, Hiung-nu) в китайските летописи и хуни (, — Hunni) у европейските автори, -->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
===>>защото често името — българи, у средновековните писатели се идентифицира с името , -->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
sources :
(Васил Н. Златарски "История на Първото българско Царство". I. Епоха на хуно-българското надмощие (679—852), c 56) .
tripleMboy 2 years ago
other sources:
Today in all surrounding area of the river of Volga live a few Bulgarian people Bulgars-Tatar, Chuvash and Al-Marinc. Novaday's Balkan Bulgarian originate from Volga, today's Tatrstan or Bulgarostan (old name). They identified them selves as Bulgars, and their language is Bulgarian language - Turkic group. [Kashgari Makhmud, 1960, 66-68; Kononov AN, 1972, 14]. [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51], [Vorobev NI, 1948, 80; kid KI, 1964, 20-21], [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51].
tripleMboy 2 years ago
===>>Also Bulgarian history the proto Bulgarians ranked in Asian - Mongols who spoke Turkic language. История на България. Т. II. С., 1981, с.60.)
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tripleMboy 2 years ago
===>> An other fact is The List of Bulgarian rulers towards Byzantine sources, but also according to medieval Bulgarian stone inscriptions are written in Turkic language. (стр. 23-33 от Studia protobulgarica mediaevalia europensia. В чест на професор Веселин Бешевлиев. Велико Търново, 1992).
tripleMboy 2 years ago
хаха Аз ще те попитам С КОГО Е ГРАНИЧИЛА И УЧАСТВАЛА В СЪЮЗ СТАРА ВЕЛИКА БЪЛГАРИЯ ??? Моят съвет е да прочетеш малко Руска история ! Хуните първоначално са живели в източна Азия после мигрират в близост до прабългарите в Европа.
MrZarko 2 years ago
History has confirmed that the Gaguzes are first Bulgarians led by Han Asparuh.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Many medieval historians knew of the state of the Volga Bolgars, which flourished from the ninth to twelfth centuries. Even the great English historian and philosopher Roger Bacon, in his "Opus Magnum" written in the second half of the thirteenth century, stated: "Further on, beyond Etilia, the Kuman principality borders of the north with Great Bolgaria, where the Bolgars come from, who live between Constantinople, Hungary and Slavonia. --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
-->> Small Bolgaria is in Europe and there they speak in the language of the Bolgars who live in Great Bolgaria, which is in Asia..."
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Bacon, Roger, DOCTOR MIRABILIS (LATIN: "WONDERFUL TEACHER"), English Franciscan philosopher and educational reformer who was a major medieval proponent of experimental science. Roger Bacon who were among Bulgarians (Tatars) in his "Opus majus" written 1267/68 states: ..Small Bolgaria is in Europe and there they speak in the language of the Bolgars who live in Great Bolgaria, which is in Asia...". --->>
tripleMboy 2 years ago
-->>So the language of Bulgarians in 13 Cent. wasnt Slav, but actually Turko-Tatar. ("Kazan. The Enchanted Capital" (Flint River Press Ltd, London, 1995).
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Today in all surrounding area of the river of Volga live a few Bulgarian people Bulgars-Tatar, Chuvash and Al-Marinc. Novaday's Balkan Bulgarian originate from Volga, today's Tatrstan or Bulgarostan (old name). They identified them selves as Bulgars, and their language is Bulgarian language - Turkic group. [Kashgari Makhmud, 1960, 66-68; Kononov AN, 1972, 14]. [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51], [Vorobev NI, 1948, 80; kid KI, 1964, 20-21], [Boryngy ..., 1963, 17-51].
tripleMboy 2 years ago
дори и ти ако забележиш годината няма как да не ти стане ясно че тук не се касае България а Стара Велика България виж годината 679 г. а моята България е създадена през 681 г.
MrZarko 2 years ago
In the 7th century the Turko-Mongolic Bulgars for a very first time entered Europe from their original Asian home, invaded Thrace, and subdued the Thracians and Slavs. Since this moment the mix between the Bulgar intruders, Thracians, and Slavs will result in the formation of the modern Bulgarian nation.
tripleMboy 2 years ago
затова днес над 360 000 българи живеят в Украйна.110 000 в Молдова. 80 000 в Сърбия над 400 000 са останали в Гърция.8 000 в Румъния и 10 000 в Унгария. Това са наследниците на онези българи предпочели свободата тогава когато ние сме били под робство
MrZarko 2 years ago
vo Grcija 400 000?? da ne imas nekoja greska?? hahah Pa vo egejska Makedonija i vo Istocna Trakija nemalo nikogas Bulgari, osven ako Makedoncite gi smetas za turki?? No bilo kako i da e ne e voopsto vazno, Gaycite ne priznavaat nikogo, bez razlika kako se vika i sto e. Kaj niv vazi ona Ako e krsten togas e Grk, a ako ne e togas e Turcin...Muslim..
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Ти си в грешка!Аз македонците си ги смятам за гърци а бюрмците за българи. Аз на тебе ли(промит мозък)ще вярвам или на себе си?И България и Гърция сме УНИТАРНИ държави и никого не признаваме освен себе си!Погледни Украинската уикипедия за българите !
MrZarko 2 years ago
ti si vo edna golema greska... samo bla bla bla. Od tebe ne vidov ni eden argument ili fakt. imaj si ubav den uzivaj vo letoto ne dremi na internet za dzabe..
tripleMboy 2 years ago
ами и аз от теб не видях нито един ИСТИНСКИ факт. Целият ти живот е в грешка. Аз на бюрмски глупости взети от 2 бюрмски сайта не вярвам.
Иначе мерси ,имай си го и ти хубавият ден. Но аз не стоя само пред комп.. Редувам го със плажа през лятото.
MrZarko 2 years ago
ами да правилно е нека не забравяме че сме се зародили сред море от тюркски народи. Балхара е граничила само със такива. "Ние сме споделяли общ хляб със тях" Ние сме със арийски произход (в превод : бели иранци) ние делим общи неща със иранците .
MrZarko 2 years ago
The people in Bulgaria in XVIII and XIX Cent were declaring themselves as Serbs and Greeks, but not as Bulgarians. Bulgarian history sources say that people of Bulgaria hated the Bulgarians and Bulgarian name (Source: Slavianob`lgarska Istoriya - "Славянобългарска история" "Паисий Хилендарски" "Georgiev Kosta, Filetizm ili proklyatie, Sofia 1995 - Георгиев Коста, "Филетизъм или проклятие" София, 1995.)
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Не е вярно. Ние сме се освободили доста по късно. Гърците ,сърбите румънците - са се освободили със поне половин век по рано. А ние 1878г. И много българи са напуснали родните си земи. Но никога не са мразили българският си корен и т.н.
MrZarko 2 years ago
the cyrillian alphabet was made by cyrill i metodi and they where from the aegean part of macedonia
who said that they were bulgars none said so the history books say macedonia then it is macedonia fuck bulgari cigans kradete ko cigani ebem vi matter odete nazat vo mongolia pizdi cigani
dennood 2 years ago
Thank you for the video, i;ts time for this slavic fanatics to understand the truth about their history.
AdrianPrishtina 2 years ago
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AdrianPrishtina 2 years ago
Makedonski pederasi sega shte vi kaja neshto istorichesko.Gospod e sazdal balgarina ot kal,vidial che mu lipsva neshto.Napravil mu dupka na gaza i ot kalta vzeta ot tazi dupka e napravil makedonskite utrepliaci .Dali sme vi ezik a vie go izpolzvate da ni psuvate.Bokluci neshtastni.Makedonia e nai-izostanalata Balgarska provincia
peterheaven 2 years ago 2
Oh my GOOOOOD!Now they are telling me just the next stupidity!Cyrillyc was made IN BULGARIA by Kiril and Metodi who was a BULGARIAN BROTHERS!This is history and u are playing here with it with your stupid,idiot movies!Fucking liers!But the most important thing is that WE KNOW THE TRUTH,and u know it too but u are sooo angry that we are just better country at this part of Europe!!!
batfilcho2 2 years ago
Hahahah., o6te edna FYROm-ska glupost, u4ete albanski, kirilicata nito e va6a nito 6te vi trabva sled vreme.
vlezz 2 years ago
Bulgars, (Chuvash, Gagauzes and Tatars) in Russia write in Cyrilic alphabet. If you think that they have invent that alphabet then you got right! hahhahha Stupid GANCHOS!!!!
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Vie jiveete v nqkakva izmislena prikazka, zatova i se topite.
vlezz 2 years ago
ti nemas pojma sto zboruvas! Koj se topi??? hahah
tripleMboy 2 years ago
bosancica!!!
Enesball8 2 years ago
kako prvo kirilicata se vikala glagolica a kirilicata e izmislena od sv KIRIL I METODIJ koj se Makedonci a ne bugari srbi ili najmalku grci
pravoslavenmakedonec 2 years ago
Yeah, macedonians created the Cyrillic Alphabet during the rule of their greatest king - King Josip Broz Tito, who ordered to be created the perfect alphabet for his fictional nation since 1992 year ;P
BulgariaWillRise 2 years ago
No Bulgars bring taht from Mongolia hahahhah
tripleMboy 2 years ago
Macedonians created the cyrilic alphabet.
makedonce1986 2 years ago
please learn some history !!!!!!!!!! that's not true and you know it very well :P
stefinka999 2 years ago