Vulgar Volvo Driver LR11 XXL Shows Utter Contempt Towards Vulnerable Velocipede

[Danv12321]

tell that scum bag what's what mate!

[no1dagboy]

no...the driver is in the right ...and the cyclist is in the wrong. The cyclist fails to maintain a straight line...he deviates into the path of the car. The driver has full right of way in such a situation and a responsibility to maintain good traffic flow. The onus is on the cyclist to allow sufficient space for heavier vehicles to pass unimpeded. It's all very clear in the highway code.

[TiNuts]

@no1dagboy You are completely mistaken. It is the driver's responsibility to give the cyclist adequate room (see HC Rule 163) not the cyclits's to allow sufficient space for heavier vehicles to pass unimpeded (you will find no reference to any such requirement in the Highway Code). The cyclist does not "swerve" as you claim and if you Google "Cycle aid case 2" you will discover that cyclists must be allowed a "wobble" in any case. Try and research before posting nonsense.

[ferranerazzi]

@TiNuts The cyclist clearly swerves into the road, he goes from about 18 inches from the kerb to at least 4 feet!! It looks to me that the cyclist deliberately moves out to prevent the cars from overtaking, in this case the cars were committed and the cyclist is lucky not to be dead. Someone needs a few cycling proficiency lessons.

[TiNuts]

@ferranerazzi Funny, 70 odd posts on here and you're the only person who has come up with that interpretation of the video. If you look carefully you'll see there is no swerving (definition: change or cause to change direction abruptly) but that the cyclist is following a line which he is perfectly entitled to do. I suggest you read the Highway Code before commenting further.

[TiNuts]

@ferranerazzi Oh Dear! You really don't like people disagreeing with you, do you? You reply to me with two posts (removed) of bluster and insults rather than, say, rational argument quoting the Highway Code or Cyclecraft to back up your preposterous claims. Oh, and, hilariously you claim to be a "bloody good" cyclist when it's quite apparent from your profile that you're nothing but an opinionated petrol-head troll who appears to think cyclists' place on the road is in the gutter. Bye Bye!

[TiNuts]

The only thing that is 100% here is your ability to display you lack of observational skills, ignorance of basic road sense and disregard for the Highway Code. Motorists with attitudes like those displayed in your ill-considered posting are the reason the roads become more dangerous by the day for vulnerable road users.

[ferranerazzi]

The volvo is close because you move into the middle of the road as he moves to pass you, he's got oncoming traffic. There's plenty of room to get past if you maintain your position but you veer into his path. 100% totally the cyclist's fault.

[HoodedFig900]

Whilst I agree that the overtake was slightly close I don't think you should display the makes or model of the cars because I feel that doing this stigmatizes car drivers.

[TiNuts]

@HoodedFig900 Slightly close? You are joking aren't you? Take a look in the Highway Code (Rule 163) if you want to see how much room he should have given. As for "stigmatizing" car drivers............it's quite simple, if you don't want to end up on a public forum then show some respect for other members of the public!

[HoodedFig900]

@TiNuts I am well aware that the car driver should have left more room to overtake however in my opinion the overtake was slightly close. That is my perception which is based on my opinion and past experience.

I also feel that displaying the make and model of the car stigmatizes any person who happens to drive that make or model of car and this can lead to stereotyping of drivers who drives the cars which have their makes and models outlined.

[TiNuts]

@HoodedFig900 Have you actually looked at what the Highway Code says about overtaking vulnerable road users, or do you just rely on your "opinion".

[HoodedFig900]

@TiNuts It says overtake when it safe and legal and leave as much space as a car. Factually the driver did not do this (to which I am agreeing) and in my opinion the drivers manoeuvre is best described as slightly close.

I also feel that displaying the make and model of the car stigmatizes any person who happens to drive that make or model of car and this can lead to stereotyping of drivers who drives the cars which have their makes and models outlined.

[TiNuts]

@HoodedFig900 It also gives a guide picture. I wonder what your opinion of that is.

Stereotyping, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I wonder, have you written to the producers of Police Camera, Action! voicing the same concerns?

[HoodedFig900]

@TiNuts You seem to be confused. I agree with the highway code. I am not disputing the highway code. In my opinion on a scale of not close, slightly close, very close, crash the driver of the car LR11XXL passed you slightly close as indicated in your footage. I do not approve of the manoeuvre.

I am concerned that by naming the make and model of the car, drivers can be stigmatised and stereotyped. Why just not write the numberplate and not make + model with your opinion of the driver?

[TiNuts]

@HoodedFig900 The only confusing thing is why you keep insisting that the overtake was slightly close when it was, in fact, dangerously close. I suggest you read some of the other posts here if you seek further corroboration.

I have to differ with your opinion of stereotyping. Yes, there are certain types of vehicles which appear to attract a more dangerous type of driver but that was not the reason why I mentioned the name of vehicle in this instance.

[taypet8221]

@HoodedFig900 You are right it does stigmatize car drivers & quite rightly too, Volvo drivers are shit, BMW drivers are shit, Taxi drivers are shit, bus drivers are shit, ninja cyclists are shit, pavement cyclists are shit, to name a few, women drivers, well lets not go there (lol), name & shame them I say. As for "slightly close" you should have gone to Specsavers.

[TiNuts]

@taypet8221 lol. Excellent!

[Chris3141592]

When he wound down the window HOW ON EARTH did you manage not to bury your fist into his gormless cunty face?

[Wabbit0789]

The majority of motorist are ok with the cyclist but there a minority that just hate cyclists cut them up and cause accidents, I know not all cyclists are perfect but it proves that dangerous driving is caused by the mental state of the driver/cyclist and not what vechicle are on the road, eg pushbike cars motorbikes ect. why didn't he give the cyclist the same amount of room as the other drivers ? well we know, it's because he think the cyclist shouldn't be there regardless of the highway code

[MegaRAZ666]

Someone please amputate this driver's legs please,thanks

[TiNuts]

@MegaRAZ666 But then he wouldn't be able to experience the joys (?) of cycling on London's roads and, more than likely, suffer a close overtake like this one.........

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[CyclistsFROWUK]

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[LeDeev001]

£5 / litre for petrol, that's what we need.

[radiomerseyside]

cyclists..until you pay minimum of 3rd party insurance...stay off the bloody roads,,you are a menace!!!

[TiNuts]

@radiomerseyside Menace? The science is against you: People killed or seriously injured on Britain's roads = 6,630 in the third quarter of 2011. That's about 16 jumbo jet's worth. If that many jumbo jets crashed in the UK in 9 months people would stop flying. Meanwhile, cyclist deaths at the hands of motorists continue to rise. All casualties on the road = 52,490 people hurt or injured, irrefutably mostl the cause of motorists. It's quite clear who the menace is here - and it's not cyclists.

[ian8354]

@radiomerseyside Fuck you TWAT ! Attitude like that you want shafting with a wire brush.

[radiomerseyside]

@ian8354 oh no not up my bot-bot please!

[Wabbit0789]

@radiomerseyside I bet your one of thse people who would of used the road tax as an excuse, now your using insurance because that argument non and void. The reason your paying insurance is cause your driving a 2 ton killing machine, it not quite the same for cyclists and the push bike doesn't weigh anything compared to a car or even a motor cycle. IF WE HAD A LICENCE PLATE AND INSURANCE FOR PUSH BIKE'S, IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE DRIVERS ATTITUDE TO-WARDS THE CYCLISTS !

[robbo1236]

@radiomerseyside cock simply you are a cock

[tangomoggy]

@radiomerseyside Even if all cyclists had insurance, how would that make you a better driver???

[dinorizzoni]

@radiomerseyside Most of us do have 3rd party insurance. What we need are strict liability rules for motorist / cyclist collisions. If I swung a bat at your head very very close I don't think you'd find it acceptable for me to say: "Well, I missed you so stop moaning".

[kd84afc]

I agree the driver was a twat, But what annoys me people know riding bikes on London roads is very dangerous .. too much traffic and not big enough roads.. But cyclist do it anyway and when they have close calls they cry and moan about it.. my point is you know the chances are high on the roads what do you expect?

[TiNuts]

@kd84afc Simple: I expect all those who use the road to treat other road users with consideration. No one's crying and moaning here, merely pointing out the dangerous and inconsiderate behaviour of some who seem to think that, because people are on bicycles, they don't deserve any respect. There is no need for close calls, just for safe and considerate driving.

[kd84afc]

@TiNuts yes it is dangerous but I afraid it wont stop because of so much congestion on roads that wasn't built to cope with it...and the add of drivers who want to get home as quick as possible... The consideration will never be with every driver on the road..you can point it out but will it matter?

[TiNuts]

@kd84afc It'll matter if, say, the current Sunday Times campaign accomplishes something or if politicians actually get off their arses and legislate against errant drivers. Other EU countries have legislation concerning minimum overtaking distances and that's what we need here. Let's face it, nothing ever got done by people shutting up about things.

[rockshox101avidjuicy]

@kd84afc driving on the roads is also statistically very dangerous.... you still do it right? Go figure.

[meltonmowbray2003]

I totally agree with this cyclist. The Volvo driver is a tw@t

[jamesellwood1976]

What is this road tax that people keep referring to? No-one in Britain pays road Tax and haven't since before WWII.

[TiNuts]

@jamesellwood1976 Yes, quite so.

[aztech2727]

can i just say i adore cars, and i luv volvo's, however i to ride a bike, and i luv it! the man who recorded this is indeed very correct in what he said and good on him too. the volvo driver was damn wrong and he knew it!!!

[jonny5777]

Anyone can see that the volvo driver was a tw*t and the cyclist was right to have a word with him! but that should be the end of it I cant stand this pathetic tattle tale country we seem to be living in! be a man! sort it out then and there and let that be an end to it otherwise we'll all turn into a bunch of camera wearing pathetic moaners

[TiNuts]

@jonny5777 "Be a man"? What are you proposing, a bout of fisticuffs, pistols at dawn.....? Cyclists post videos of errant motorist's behaviour because, on a purely physical level (tonnage of metal vs 100kg of cyclist) the balance of power lies wholly in the motorist's favour. A number use this to their advantage knowing full well that the likelihood of being actually apprehended for their dangerous behaviour is minimal. Videos=Exposure, simple. Exposure may, ideally, lead to legislation.

[MrStratos2012]

@jonny5777 This is what is called now eh? Moaning.... If you were ever overtaken by a car that close you will not be moaning you will be fuming. Well done to the cyclist for keeping his cool, its not easy.

[sosrandom]

Rule 163 and other rules say leave plenty of space, 1 foot is more than enough

[TiNuts]

@sosrandom No, it most certainly isn't. As I've mentioned before, the Police obviously think the same. The next time you're walking down the street try stepping into the road so that you're a foot away from traffic speeding past and see how you like it. I would suggest a bicycle but you clearly aren't a cyclist, hence you're ill-considered comment. Why do you think countries in the EU have passed laws about minimum overtaking distances? All considerably more than a foot.

[t1sutton]

@TiNuts Very good reply.

[t1sutton]

@sosrandom Don't be stupid. There are many videos out there where a car's wing mirror clipped the cyclist because the car overtook too closely!

[lockdown7866]

@sosrandom lol

[u4987]

And saved him no time at all. Hope he wraps himself round a tree.

[spinnakerchaser]

I am a driving instructor and I see this behavior constantly but at least I am in a metal box and not as exposed as cyclists.

I would never ride a bike through town it is just far to dangerous. I don't know how big your balls are but I am surprised you can drag them onto a bike :->

Thanks for posting.

[CharlieRWalker]

Its illegal to overtake on the zigzag lines by a pedestrian crossing anyway, therefore, he shouldnt have even attempted an overtake at that point!

[racer17551]

I'm 19 and drive a Volvo S40 another volvo driver :P

When I pass a cyclist I give them a large amount of space when I pass. I make sure there is ample space for me to pass that means I can do so safely. Cycle bikes emit 0 emissions and don't do any damage whatsoever, therefore they're entitled to use the road. Some road users just don't have any patience.

[930588210]

@racer17551 Well said.

[ShortieLeeroy]

@racer17551 Nice driving,Your last sentence really sums it all up nicely.

[ScottTheGent]

0:42!! enough said.

[Bencentre]

How did the police respond?

[TiNuts]

@Bencentre This is their response:

Thank you for the information you have supplied through the Metropolitan

Police Roadsafe London reporting system.

The information will be reviewed and dealt with accordingly. If we

require any additional information we will contact you.

For your own safety I would advise against taking issue with drivers

personally.

[Testedecazzo]

@TiNuts so the driver can make it personal but you can't?

[TiNuts]

@Testedecazzo I think they're probably worried about some homicidal driver taking things a bit too personally and, as I've shown in another of my videos, start pursuing me (or worse) in their tonnage of horsepower laden metal.

[AnalogueAndy]

@puttincomputers thankfully in this country we take a different view. Electric cars for example pay no vehicle excise duty. As already said we all pay the cost of drivers like this idiot using the roads. Motorists here winge about having to pay fuel duty (a tax on fuel) but that no where near covers what motorists cost the economy overrall - congestion, pollution, road accidents and deaths - cyclists like us who pay tax actually subsidise this idiot.

[puttincomputers]

I consider any tax that taxes you based on the type of vehicle you drive to be a road tax this includes "environmental taxes." (I am an american and we do not have that tax, yet. All the cows in the world put out more emissions than all of the cars in the world.

[TiNuts]

@puttincomputers Whatever you want to call it, no form of tax (Vehicle Excise Duty in this instance) is any excuse for bullying other road users. We all have an equal right to use the road and a duty to treat other road users responsibly. It is worth noting that if only motor vehicle drivers were taxed in order to pay for the roads in their entirety very few of them would be able to afford the cost. Payment of VED does not give anybody more right to use the public highway than non-payers.

[puttincomputers]

@TiNuts Oh I totally agree! I am just saying that an "environmental tax/fee" is a road tax, it just has another name now.

[Testedecazzo]

@puttincomputers then you are a deluded fool lol

[inlineschool]

These days lots of cars do not pay road tax and any car from 1972 or older also pays not road tax so this is just getting a bit old.

[MelloVEL0]

He moved towards the left/you before overtaking! If anything tax payers who don't drive must subsidise drivers to use the roads, VED per car wouldn't cover the damage done to the roads let alone pay for new roads. It would be nice if there was government campaign to educate drivers.

[TiNuts]

@MelloVEL0 imho there should be a minimum overtaking distance required by law, as in some other EU countries. The UK government appears only to pander to drivers rather than expressing any interest in educating them.

[sosrandom]

@TiNuts

But the law isn't based on your opinion and you can pass as close as you like as long as you think your being safe.

[TiNuts]

@sosrandom Nonsense. Take a look at Rule 163 in the Highway Code. You'll find that is why the Police decided to send a letter to this driver warning him of his behaviour.

[CyclingMikey]

...and it's on a pedestrian crossing.

[TheVexatiousLitigant]

Glad you reported the dick, honestly, that a wank, to state that how much he pays in pollution tax has more to do with the clearance he gave than the Highway Code is a twisted way of looking at things.

[jonredhornet]

Well, lets hope the Police have a word before he hurts somebody. Vile bit of driving.

[germanicdogman]

what an idiotic pair and all to sit at a red light

[ReisendeEuropa]

@germanicdogman When someone passes me, whether I'm on wheels or at the wheel, I just think "Wow.. they must really want to be the first to the light(or accident, if driving especially bad)"