Goodbye Hitchens/ My story out of Christianity

[Ksixstring]

You should never apologize for being who you are. No matter what faith, what attracts you or even what race you are. Be yourself :)

[mobiledui]

Awww man....why do u have to be gay.... ur cute! Holler! ;)

[JESUStheATHEIST1]

thanks for failing and bailing. come again!

[pfog]

***homicide in the truest SENSE of the word*** went back and read my posts to see if my train of thought was coherent and found this error. though there were others, this was the most striking. and i couldnt have you questioning my education and therefore the foundations of my arguments.

[pfog]

create it. the lines could go on ETERNALLY in each direction; both the vertical and the horizontal. each symbolizing a choice and both choices having eternal consequences. it also symbolizes death. it was a manner of execution. when you become a christian you, your flesh and the desires it fiends for, die. and this is what baptism signigfies. the water killed the entire earth. and when you come up from the water, you are cleansed. it is as if you have never sinned. i could blow your mind...

[pfog]

9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance

[pfog]

was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

[pfog]

oh and last but not least(i forgot one and a big one at that) let me recite some of 2perter 3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth

[pfog]

LOVING FATHER. he warned them. he told them anything here you may have. you have dominion over this entire land. just dont eat from this one tree. the bible said that god is a jealous god. he is jealous for our attention. god did not create sin. god created free will. god created lucifer who also had free will. lucifer was without sin(until he chose to rebel). free will is where sin came from. i believe i have addressed all you arguments. hit me back. lets see what you got, girl!! much love! PZ!

[pfog]

you will die. HE WARNED THEM NOT TO EAT FROM THAT ONE SPECIFIC TREE and if they did THEY WOULD SURELY DIE. THEY ATE. THEY DIED. you ask questions of 'WHY' on many things. all i can say is our ways are not his ways and our thoughts are not his thoughts. and jesus gives you a peace that surpasses all undertanding. this is a personal peace which thankfully i posess. but jesus also says 'i have come to not bring peace but a sword.' and i already addressed why HE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF AN ETERNAL

[pfog]

that the flood had no effect on? your argument is not valid. what if kangaroos hadnt evolved yet? you bring it up. have you ever heard of pangaea? i dont believe that morality exists in christianity. morality is determined by you and you alone. as i said before, GOD COMMANDED HOMICIDE IN THE TRUEST SINCE OF THE WORD. but it actually wasn't homicide that damned all men. IT WAS SUICIDE. its like me saying, hey dont drink out of that glass, it has 4 seconal mixed in with vodka and if you drink it

[pfog]

im sorry but i must keep addressing your points...there was not one man...there were eight people. noah, noahs wife, noahs sons shem, ham and japheth and each of their wives. and to address the most obvious and critical point...we are talking the beginning of the earth. YOU ARE ADVOCATING EVOLUTION AS I AM AS WELL!! does it not stand to reason that there might be fewer LAND animals? and then those animals evolve? creatures of the sea were created first. how many creatures in the sea were there

[pfog]

beliefs to everyone because my words and my contradictory actions could be a stumbling block to them. its the TRUE christians, as i believe you are, that i am called to help. not the people who have never been. ok, im done and wish to apologize to the anyone upset with the number of my posts as well their content. please please please message me so we can have a discussion. i truly believe your eyes will be opened. i believe youre an asset to the kingdom and a huge threat to the enemy. much love

[pfog]

. it took me getting arrested to go there because i despised the hypocrisy of those who call themselves christians and then lead lives contradictory to what they state they believe. i now realize all christians are hypocrites to some extent and now i am one of those hypocrites. its the ones who preach and try to convert that people despise. and im doing this right now with you. but only because i feel my calling is to help the ones who struggle with sin and have real questions. i dont solict my

[pfog]

'the origin of species', darwin never once addresses the ORIGIN of species. he always talks about a species evolving into another entirely new species. talk about some irony. evolution is a fact. and considering time does not exist, sevn days could be any length of 'time'. the bible says a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. the only thing i can tell you is that upon walking in to church that night the holy spirit made it undeniably clear that i was where i needed to be

[pfog]

.But it was this day, this saturday night, that i finally knew that the God of abraham, issac and jacob was the God. i wish i could discuss, debate, contemplate, etc directly with you via email because im probably pissing alot of people off with the both the content and number of my posts. ill shut up with this final thought: I BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION. its ignorance not to. i just dont believe that man evolved from another species. darwin couldnt even explain it. the revised title of darwins book

[pfog]

upon release from jail saturday morning(my parents let me spend the night) these stipulations were read to me in the car. they basically stated that were i not to comply with any of them i would basically be cut off. one of these stipulations was that i go to church with them that night, which happened to be saturday. im sure you gathered that im not catholic. a few previous incidents had me pondering life after death, god or the concept of god and if i truly believed in god, how do i know which

[pfog]

in HIS grand scheme of things, a few years of playing with atheism is no big deal. if only you knew the things i have done in the past AFTER i became a christian, many christians would say there would be no way that i am a christian. and past doesnt necessarily mean years ago. or even months. im 31 now and became a christian at the age of 20. and only because i was arrested on a friday night and given a list of stipulations when bailed out if i wanted to keep the truck i got for graduating HS.

[pfog]

but also the fact that the vatican has the keys to vault which store SOME of christianity's most precious physical artifacts like entire books ommitted from the bible. which is a nice segue into my next point: with things like this, like the 'church'(as they like to be referred) ommitting sciptures or entire books or altering scripture, the bible CANNOT be taken at face value. PERSONAL RESEARCH IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST for a christian. you just sound a little deceived and misled by the enemy.

[pfog]

ok, i must admit i only watched about half but i just unpaused it and its at the point where you say, "how ridiculous it was to believe in this god, to believe in the bible face value." now, a couple things: knowing how the roman catholic church operates today, corruption was almost certainly worse back in the day. back in the day meaning the time period which modern protestantism can trace its roots. not only the things luther criticized, like basically paying your way into heaven,

[pfog]

third, why do we clothe ourselves and why is it such a turn on watching others de-robe? because as genesis 2:24-25 explains adam and eve were naked and felt no shame. after they ate from the forbidden tree, whose fruit im convinced was the opium poppy, they realized they were naked. why can sex get so kinky and have that naughty side to it? its also ironic that people are always saying 'o my GOD' during sex. i have a feeling God will be telling them at their appointment THIS WAS YOUR GOD!!

[pfog]

second, my feelings of lust and watching porn might as well be me going out and banging chicks whenever i feel like it. sexual sin is sexual sin. it doesnt matter if its gay or straight. and me struggling, or yielding would be more aptly put, with lust is no different. people always ask well if god exists why this and why that? dude, god literally murdered every single human being when eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. he told them they would surely die were they to eat.

[pfog]

first of all YOU accepted jesus as YOUR personal lord and savior. your actions do NOT negate this. im straight. i constantly struggle with lust and porn. but guess what. i have not had sex in almost 4 years. i dont want the feelings that i have. i constantly think about going out and having one night stands. a chick im really into offered it up on a silver platter one night whilst making out in my truck. what happened when eve ate from the tree? genesis 2:24-25 and gen 3 explainswhysexiswhatitis

[breakingthe4thwall]

@Kathrynjustsaid This was very touching. Reminds me of my own awakening, I was pretty religious myself. Your very cute, and smart so I'm sure you'll find who your looking for.

[MaskedMarvyl]

Why are all the cute atheist girls in New York; and gay? Story of my life...

I recently came out as an atheist myself, after reading Hitchen's two books, Dawkins books, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali's two books. I regret not meeting Mr. Hitchens and thanking him for his books before he died.

Nice tribute. Hope you meet your soullmate soon (no pun intended).

[ChessArmyCommander]

Hi there. Sorry for all the unpleasantries you experienced in your religious past. I also became disillusioned by mainstream Christianity. I took the atheist position for about two months, and I thought about all the things you mentioned as reasons not to believe. Then I discovered a Christian theology that teaches the salvation of all and a much more loving God as a result. That Jesus will save the whole world. It set me free. Just google and check out Tentmaker for example. Take care.

[JESUStheATHEIST1]

@ChessArmyCommander you mean its less crazy..but still crazy. silly cherry pickers.

[SkuIICrusherGhost]

FUNNY STUFF, YOUR A GOOD COMEDIEN.

[EdyMar77]

Cheers to you lady .

[BlueJupiter91]

Thanks for sharing :)

[grazzhood71]

Good.. he's dead...

[JESUStheATHEIST1]

@grazzhood71 spoken like a true christian.

[grazzhood71]

@JESUStheATHEIST1Haha.... I'm not

[JESUStheATHEIST1]

@grazzhood71 oh, im sorry. then why are you suck a prick saying...good..hitchens is dead? mean spirited? idiot? fucktard? which one are you?

[grazzhood71]

@JESUStheATHEIST1 Because he is a joke to the rest of the world... his lies and propaganda only works with closed minded westerners who think they know the rest of the world by reading his books.. Fuck off...

[JESUStheATHEIST1]

@grazzhood71 thanks for choosing religious fucktard. at least now i know what im talking to.good luck with your delusional life. p.s. your right, evolution is a lie. keep giving to clergy.

[grazzhood71]

@JESUStheATHEIST1 yeah.. whatever...fuck off

[RationalAtheism]

Imagine, had you not been gay you might never even have 'met' Hitchens. ;)

Anyway, great story! Cheers.

[Kathrynjustsaid]

@RationalAtheism One would hope that I would've come to my senses! But, probably not. haha

[bethnor]

i'm glad you have found happiness. i truly believe there will be no progress for LGBT rights until organized religion is repudiated. the truth is right before our eyes: we are primates. some primates are homosexual. that's all there is to it. think of the groups you attended... how many lives have been ruined by the evil nonsense of these books. think of all the adolescents, already confused by their blossoming sexuality, that we drive to insanity. with these bronze age myths.

[Kathrynjustsaid]

@bethnor Very well put. It's was so sad for me to see people living a lonely life because they feared they would go to hell for only wanting to experience a deep and intimate connection with the same sex. I personally know a few women trying to be ex-gay and are absolutely miserable. I mean they have cheated on husbands with women and have a secret life so they won't be abandoned by their "family" in Christ. It's a sad thing

[bethnor]

@Kathrynjustsaid i have a variation on a hitchens quote that you can share with ppl who are struggling. tell them to look at one of their straight friends whose life they envy. see if they can make themselves believe that, in a former life, that person was gay, did as the religious enjoined, and so god rewarded them with a new, "straight" resurrection body and life. then ask them to look in a mirror and see if they can make themselves believe it about themselves.

[CanterburyCat]

Well explained. good Luck.