I'm not sure if you're still tinkering with this concept or something similar, but if you are and If you haven't already come across it, try researching mu metal. It's used as a magnetic shield in many applications. I'm sure you've already found that aluminum doesn't work well at all as a shielding material. You may also want to research the Ecklin generator and its principle as its concept is somewhat similar in nature. I hope you never give up. ...All my best.
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Bismuth repels magnets to a very small degree, graphite has the same properties. Search for information about perpendicular and parallel Pyrolytic graphite. Somehow the graphite is deposited in layers which gives something like 6x the magnetic repulsion. It's interesting if nothing else.
Nickel 80 or soft Iron. A shield does nothing but redirect the magnetic field so the magnet has to actually be attracted to it. Any metal such as Aluminum, Copper or lead won't give the result you are looking for. MuMetal is a nickel-iron alloy composed of 77% nickel, 15% iron, and small amounts of various other elements that is highly effective for shielding magnetic fields.
If you tried to shield one pole of the magnet the magnetic field around the other pole of the magnet will colaps. Magnetic shielding is intended to shield both pole of the magnet. in computer hard drives. This does not work 100% some of the magnetic field still pass throug the shield.
the best you need is mu-metal, but is not cheap, try with zinc, cooper, or aluminium, i think that with aluminium you will need a much bigger size. you prove.
@docatomics ...right aliment and a timed shielding to cut off the push pull effect at the precise moment in the cycle, without using more power to time than is produced "at the flywheel" Nickel does work for this shielding concept , so get to it brains, no need to Wait for pinky to fuck things up, the ruling parasitic elite have that duty covered.
When you have this down pat we can work on the magnetic bubble that defies gravity by creating bouyency of a vacum inside the torus
There is no protection from electromagnetic fields. Put this barrier which is magnetized and also acts as an object of attraction. In general, when you notice weakness in the system puts a corrective mechanism. However, it creates forces that are against what you get. Accordingly, everything we do has its counterpart on the system and finally be balanced. Better give up and not wasted your time in vain.
hi guy, if you check out ......... FuelBan & Magnet Motors 1.wmv ........ videos 1 to 3, you can get an idea how to manipulate the steel to suite rotation. But it is not shielding you are correct.
if he only needs to reduce the flux a bit, wouldnt his idea of a magnetically inert metal like aluminum work better? If bismuth repels the field, perhaps it would be too much effect.
The problem isn't magnetic shielding. For any circular path the net energy gain is always zero.
If you make a circular track, then for every point that is down hill, there is an up hill somewhere else. Since it always returns to the start again, the net gain is zero.
The same is true for magnetic potential. Alerting the flux as you move doesn't change this fact either, you are either going down or up. If you return to the same place, there was no gain in energy. Then add in friction losses..
you have to imbalance magnets twards a monopolar magnet, because monopolar mags dont exist yu have just to weakwen 1 pole or focusing it into iron that binds its flux
Flying wasnt possible until they made the airplane. This perpetual motion argument is lame and dead as newton. The earth is a magnet that has continous cycles or north and south pole magnets. Sounds perpetual to me. Put 2 nails in a tree and add a multimeter and you will achieve volts and amps continually until the tree dies. When it dies replace it with a piece of foil. While ever magnets exist free energy and perpetual motion is available like water revolves in a cycle.
Right. And thats why there are so many mangnetically powered perpetual motion machines in the world...can you show ONE instance of such a device? NO. Why? Because there is no such thing. The earth will have magnetic fields for a long time geologically, but not for ever. It and the sun have got about 10,000 years left and counting. A tree producing a microscopic voltage proves nothing - it is a living entity. Replace it with foil and you get - nothing. Perpetual motion does not work. The end.
Utubefreemind, just read your post again (answered it the 1st time at work) - you say the perpetual motion argument is lame and dead - are you talking about arguments AGAINST perpetual motion?? If so, you are on extremely shaky ground as there is not one shred of evidence anywhere of a working perpetual motion machine - they all either stop eventually or are shown to be scams powered by some hidden power supply. Surely you can see that if anyone was to come up with such a thing there would be
(continued) no more energy crisis, no need to build hybrid cars, no problems with greenhouse gases etc etc etc and yet, despite the WHOLE scientific community and world's industries failure to come up with such a thing - yet you believe some dude on youtube has already perfected it? If it did work , do you not think that somebody (scientists, govt's, industry) would be beating a path to his doorstep waving handfuls of cash at him? It would be nice if it worked but basic physics says it can't..
The problem with free energy is people or people in power cant make any money on it. So they will do as much as they can too prevent or hide free power from becoming a reality. Greed wins over peace and a good life.
Are you serious?? The ONLY reason there isn't perpetual motion machines everywhere is because the world economy would collapse????? You mean, other than an economic problem, these would work? If so, why didn't hybrids go the same way? (I can't believe I am even replying to this...) So how come they haven't dragged this guy away? Oh, and who were the Australians that vanished?? And why was it never in the media? Can't you see what a bullshit argument you are putting forward?? Jesus.....
There is no known materiel to completely block magnetic field, but you can reduce it. I'd do some research before I made any more shields to see what material blocks the field the most. Nice job on the design so far, don't stop!
This thing can not work. Is that the magniwork proposed thing? And putting magnets in any angle do not change anything. the mass always encounter two equal opposite vectors from the force field as it approach and then go away from it. You must create an imbalance between both vectors to make it work, just like in the SAVAGE-Z motor
Yes you can....Hard disk drives have magnetic protection boundrys so the data doesn't get crapped up...bacause magnetism would change the values of the charge...
..this may be of help...You should put ferrous metal shields in place. The shields would each return the magnetic field of a magnet from N-S, without letting the field out of the immediate area of the magnet. You could use "C"-shaped shields, for example, one around each magnet....passed from one of our enginbeers on the shop floor!-also some entionioned Nu METAL??
I can see that the magnetic flux is getting through the steel, hence stopping it in that place, so try using anti magnetic tape on your shileds?..vary the tape to get the required attraction from the magnet...just an idea?
instead of trying to block the magnetic field..How about creating a more direct path to the stator magnets opposite pole.That might reduce it's effect on the rotar magnet.
You need to turn your machine upside-down. You can't block a magnet, but you can turn a repulsive force to an attractive one using the plate you have. Tat means you need to have your pates down first, ad lift as the rotor turns. Bet ya a nickel that works.
It's a good try, bro. It looks far better than many of the models I have attempted. I find it surprising how many people find it intuitive that that the known laws of physics can be broken. We know that singularities exist, and that is proof enough that under certain conditions, energies can rise to infinity. We have no mathematical or conceptual explanations to make sense of it. Perhaps perpetual motion is much the same.
Keep trying on this because at some point you can find how this will work, i see the idea and not like a lot of others i think it should work, and to all the people who say this wont work and physics says this and that cant be done just think around 100-1000 years they will say this age in time had no idea how the world worked and how wrong we were
hey check your private mail. aluminium wont work buddy keep up the good work. dont mind the critics there the lazy ones. at least your doing something
What you really want is a High nickel (75%) alloy of annealed metal. nickel-iron-copper-molybdenium should work pretty well. You could also work on a charged faraday cage arrangement, but I'd stick with the Metal shielding. Mu-metal is the name for the stuff.
why do u try and make it work, it wont, even someone doing A level Physics knows why.
really do u not think that the fact we are able to use partical accererators make anti matter and can sustain a fusion reaction for a short period of time. scientists would have bean beaten by ur little wodden wheel with magnets....
but if you added all 8 shields, would not the force that is stopping the revolution be cancanelled out because it would be around the entire circumferance and not at just one point . Aluminum will not wrok because I beleive it is transparent to magnetics. ???
Use insulated copper coil from electric motor wrapped around the stationary magnet to destroy the field fora split second. Only enough power to equalize the stationary magnet is sufficient or it would defeat the object and perhaps damage the magnet do some tests one coil at a time witha 9v battery and a reed switch -search pulse motor in the tube look into Monel 400 it looses its magnetic field @ 35 deg C and Gadolinium 24degC good for a solar powered magnet motor or a magnet heat engine : )
To break the field, by putting a barrier you need to put energy into the system. The most obvious way would be to put a magnet on your 'guard' aligned to repel both inner and outer magnets, it will then break the attraction. As it is, the magnets at the sticking point are sitting at an energetic minimum, so to break the attraction you need to put energy into it. This then equals the energy released during the spin to get to this point, and you get conservation of energy.
Apoptosis74, you shouldn't destroy people's beliefs and hopes into perpetua mobile. Remember, these unworkable devices have a millenia old tradition. So these things belongs to human culture - like religion or astrology. Imagine, if all people grasped laws of thermodynamics, than the whole multi-billion perpetua mobile business collapsed, people did not longer waste millions of workhours - and we couldn't longer watch amazing perpetua mobile videos on YT.
you need to study magnetics, the laws apply the same as Ohms law does to electricity. you cannot shield flux lines of force on/off, but you can shunt flux paths to lower force, which requires external energy for controlled motion of core material
It doesn't work, it shouldn't work and in theory it cannot work. Lifting a "shield", imposing a "shield" or moving the mags requires POWER. Use electro magnets and a rotary switching device and a BATTERY . It's called a DC motor.
Make a mechanism to move the pivot mags away and the whole thing will still never complete one rev. each fixed pole pulls or pushes the moving magnets towards itself but slows it the same amount as it passes by. NET ZERO. The progessive radial layout of the rotor simulates one long magnet but the rules stay the same so it can't go past center.
Whats missing from these videos is any understanding of 8th grade physics. Magnets have no power. They have force. This drops off as the square of the distance. The progressive magnet rotor will NEVER complete one revolution. The power to move away the pivot mag will always be more than the wheel produces because it was pulled by that same magnet to begin with. NO FREE LUNCH
I don't think this design will work many others took this approach and failed. Beside the mechanical opening and closing of the shield will slow the wheel somewhat which will make it less efficient even if it worked.
You will need to create two moving wheels or cone shaped contraptions against each other with the magnets placed just right to make both wheels turn. The magnets will of course need to be placed on the cone-wheels.
if a magnetic field is caused by a flow of imaginary particles, as I've heard it described, mightn't an insulator block more magnetic field than metal, through which electrons move very freely?
ya sorry i can't remember many details on that 'imaginary' particles theory, but if it was a flow of real particles, how come you need to MOVE a magnet to move electrons in a nearby wire?
if they were flowing around the poles of the magnet, id think it could induce a current in a nearby wire while stationary?
(<-- not pro just speculating lets not argue lets discuss)
yeah, i dont know if you tried it yet, but from my tests aluminum or copper wont shield anything. you need steel or iron, which unfortunatly will be attracted to the magnets.. more, smaller stators and rotor magnets maybe??
One effect I found that may be helpful..a thin steel or tin sheet can shield 2 repelling magnets if the thickness and spacing are just right. The attraction to the metal cancels out the repel between the magnets through the metal. It is a balance, so moving 1 magnet away makes the other one attract the metal!!
If the metal is too thick, the magnets ignore each other and always attract the metal!
Toldya it wouldn't work. Neither will aluminum or copper because they won't shield at all. But they will help slow down your rotor due to the lentz (sp) force.
testatika uses neutrinos and is considered by many an over-unity device.
i for one believe that over-unity and zero point energy exists. if ed scandlin could levitate 20 ton granit stones with a hand crank generator :: go figure. it is only an unsolved puzzle. the most important piece must be missing. find it hide it guard it for the rest of the world will kill for it. good luck
wrap each magnet in insulation tape,rubber and insert into an iron tube, you will isolate one of the poles. set it all to repell and try again. make sure the rear of the magnet is capped with similar materials. i have tried my self and it does work. you could go to a plumbing supplier who should have black iron water pipe
How will we ever get anywhere if we just follow the laws with out ever changeling them? personally I think one day there might be a way around these laws of physics, but hey what it really matter ask any scientist and they will tell you that nothing is 100% curtain or correct 100% of the time, that would be an impossibility.
If people didn't question everything then nothing would get discovered. KEEP ON WORKING AT IT. I believe it will be discovered and shielding is a good avenue. Keep on keeping on!
how about finding something that cannot be magnetized itself, steel and especially iron will start to create their own magnetic field after a while of being that close to a magnet. thus needing more shielding and so on and so on.
Magnetic fields (forces are caused by magnetic fields) cannot be blocked, no. That is, there is no such thing as a magnetic insulator. < < < some physics site
a quick google seems you can distort a field but you can not block a field ,good luck your need it :-)
You think that the movement of atoms and planets are examples of perpetual motion? There are no forces acting on those particles or bodies? Go back to school.
they had to originate somewhere/somehow, and dont tell me you "know" how all of that started.
so tell me, how is it that trillions and trillions of atoms began their existence, and how are they organized so perfectly according to size, atomic weight, spacing, orbits, speed, balance, and proximities to each like atom????
educate me o wise one...
they just *cough* banged into existence? hahahahahaha
Better you read Hawking's "Brief History of Time" oh dull one. It simplifies it down to a level I am sure you can understand and much more clearly than I could.
Once you do understand the theory - you will be in much better a position to argue against it. Then you won't sound quite like the uneducated dullard that you have in your postings so far.
I just read it. Hawking explains everything with science. But he attributes everything before the big bang to God. He's like a modern day high-tech cave man.
You mean you just read the whole book since my last post on this thread - or someone's summary. And he does not attribute it all to God - he just leaves it open.
No. I read Briefer History of Time a week ago. But, since your last post I picked it back up and re-read his final chapter.
I'm gonna stand by my original comment.
I was very disappointed because Hawking's theories pretty much debunk every religious notion. But the things that are just beyond his own grasp, he once again attributes to a god. I guess our species is hard wired to do that - it's served some evolutionary purpose obviously.
thank you for your reply, and your RATIONAL response. it is good to see that some people can conversate in a civil manner, unlike some of the "educated" here.
the universe is too vast, to organized, too symmetrical, too order, too small, too perfect to be understood simply by reading a book.
i have read many books on these subjects, including quantum theories and such, and they ALL make some sort of convincing argument to "prove" their THEORIES.
i can randomly throw a dart at a handful of "answers" and have just as much understanding as anyone else.
I agree with you completely on your last sentence - I will believe - when these devices have been created as a working model - in the shops and in people's houses - truly producing over-unity. Like I may have said before - I am sill holding my breath....after decades and decades of false starts...
i do NOT believe in over-unity per se, but what I am hopeful of is that perhaps like solar power, we will find ways of using "other" energies that do not readily consume.
i also believe that if someone does/has discovered a device that seemingly runs over-unity, they simply are not accounting for ALL sources and inputs of energy. (gravity, solar, cosmic rays, who knows....)
When I was a kid I made a 'perpetual motion' machine with magnets with two separate discs placed above each other and magnets aligned in even spacing repelling each other all the way around. With the appropriate angle and appropriate placement I got the device to move!
After watching for 50 min and watching it get slower and slower, I was dismayed after it stopped. I removed the magnets and to my chagrin, the magnets were 'dead'. :( The magnets were providing the energy.
i have one idea, you could construct simple construction at the start of rotating magnets, which would push the stator pagnets up before commoing start position to reaching the next stator magnets. The stator magnect probably will need update, that the rotor would tilt the static magnets as easy as posible. Chears.
interesting approach. I have a similar model concept, based on magnet schielding. I think this is the only way to make a workable device with magnets.
You should take into account all interactions, between magnets and between shield and magnets. Some of these interactions produce useful work wich can be used if you put a flywhell in your device, to store this work.
can you put a magnet on the end of the wand to lift the other magnet in place. can you put the wand on a track to push the magnet up as it approaches. please don't give up. the greatest leaps forward were actually stumbles. ignore the pathetic losers who troll the net. their lives are meaningless while they accomplish nothing. they fill their lives with feelings gathered from others to convince themselves they are real. please continue.
It is very amusing: all of these losers trying to find a magnetic shield in order to create perpetual motion. Meanwhile, in the real world, physicists use the conservation laws to prove that there can be no passive magnetic shield which is itself not affected by magnets. It can be done using electromagnetism, but that requires energy, rather than creating it.
And many times in history, great people that we now honor today were told they were wrong by many others, if not everyone else. Fast forward to today, and these very things that they were trying to convince everyone are now the basis for our science and experiments today.
Don't you think that that excuse is wearing rather thin when it comes to 'free energy'? Magnet-based perpetual motion machines were among the very first to be thought of. We now know that they can never work. Real science progresses. Pseudoscience remains stuck in the same old dead-ends.
So you have done tons of experiments with magnetics have you? I don't often take people on their word when they say something. With magnetics it lies in the bedini circuit(not like the one mythbusters botched) as a start. Look at Lutech's creation. Using pulsed dc curect and ac induction is the answer which many are finding. The problem is its not long term profitable and all big companies that could produce them in mass aren't interested.
Like many ignorant youngsters, I played around with magnets, thinking they were 'magic'. I even tried to build a Dean Drive, which was very 'big' at the time. I then became a scientist, and realized why I had been wasting my time. Bedini and the others have discovered nothing; that is why they carefully avoid contact with the bona fide scientific community (praise from rentacranks like Aspden and Puthoff does not count).
hahahahahahahahahalololol icant believe there are still duckeggs out there trying to make this principle work learn about phaser and vector diags and then when yo understand e.m. you will not waste anymore time on this try something more useful oh and the 2nd law of thermodynamics says it all. i hate to see time wasted u ncould achieve so much more
Oh man I had thought of this idea a while ago but never had the guts to try it out... If you could post a video with aluminum shields that would be awesome!
if the sheet steel shield its self is to much reduction or not enough, why hasnt anyone thought of applying magnets to the sheelds? afterall the steel shields are conductive to magnetism, all this could be remedied with opposit force and the use of electo pulses (ie: ELECTRO-MAGNETISM).
By the way, the steel is not so much the problem as it is the size, shape and thickness. He could use plastic to replace the moving shield and simply fasten a very small shield in the right place on the plastic. This way he can still pursue his moving gate concept.
Try a curved shield. The curve of a metal measuring tape deflects the magnetic field but would attract the magnets. Perhaps a curved non magnetic metal such a aluminum would also deflect the magnetic field without attracting the magnet. Instead of blocking it - deflect it.
91) There is no such thing as deflecting magnetic flux. (2)Curvature only helps on shielding corners. (3) Magnetic fields pass right through aluminum. (4) Thin shielding using tin works great.
Click on my name to see video for magnetic shielding.
there is a material in almost all hard drives that shield magnetic fields. they are shaped much like a disc brake pad. I understand it's one of the best materials to use. let us know how that works for you.
If you've gotten you're aluminum shields installed have you found that the "mechanical bumping" of your (im assuming its brass) swing arm is slowing down the works a bit ? If it is you might try to install disc magnets on the tops of all your shields and one similar disc magnet on the bottom of your swing arm like polarized with the shield magnets of course so you can achieve your deflection with less loss of mechanical energy ?
That is good thinking, but it will be tricky to do that without slowing the rotations of the wheel too much. I would try a very week spring on a piston pushed back using a long lever. The weeker the spring and the longer the lever the better.
There are several commonly available diamagnetic materials but bismouth and pyrolitic graphite are top of the line, they wont attenuate the field by much but may be enough to help overcome the initial magnetic threshold
I just heard about bismuth, but are you saying that it doesn't work well as a shield compared to steel? Steel is so effective though that maybe it doesn't have to. Will it cut the field in half do you think?
Steel is magnetically permiable and may loose whatever effectivness it has over time, pyrolitic graphite and bismuth are not, I dont know what the degree of magnetic attenuation of these materials is but I dont believe its anything near half.
I thought of a manetic motor years ago which of course i never buit but my fly wheel was vertical and relativly heavy and places vertically and the magnets (only two) acted like pistons and were drawn towards an iron plate. The iron plates (there was one for each piston acted like valves and were placed or displaced mechanically in front of the "pistons)
try mumetal
WunTuFree 3 weeks ago in playlist Magnetic Motor
Good work man.
Shielding depends on:
1. material direction, steel has anisotropy in one or two direction different like in 3th direction
2. steel has good and other steel has bad magnetic shielding, use transformers steel
3. thickness of the steel, less or more, depends on magnetic force, and rotation speed.
Dont stop. Good choice. See you later.
MrStanleZ 2 months ago in playlist Viac videí od používateľa Eltimple
the problem i saw was that the magnets that are on the weel sould be spred out on the entier thing not focused on one side
solarobotify 6 months ago in playlist perpetual motion
aluimineum? jk
DasBasdoInc 8 months ago
fuck google ads and google too...
MrBlind0fish 9 months ago
I'm not sure if you're still tinkering with this concept or something similar, but if you are and If you haven't already come across it, try researching mu metal. It's used as a magnetic shield in many applications. I'm sure you've already found that aluminum doesn't work well at all as a shielding material. You may also want to research the Ecklin generator and its principle as its concept is somewhat similar in nature. I hope you never give up. ...All my best.
Libertasfalsus 11 months ago
It is allways funny how these people think they are some kind of scientist and yet they allways mistakenly call thier hypothesis a theory.
MrAwsome514 1 year ago
your timing is of.
jozefchrenko 1 year ago
Alu-Min-Ium
Funny accents from outside my country
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polysemousncrk 1 year ago
NO MAN...in THEORY it SHOULDN"T WORK. AND in practice it WON"T...you tell me why
orion1077 1 year ago
Bismuth repels magnets to a very small degree, graphite has the same properties. Search for information about perpendicular and parallel Pyrolytic graphite. Somehow the graphite is deposited in layers which gives something like 6x the magnetic repulsion. It's interesting if nothing else.
eddie7478852 1 year ago
Nickel 80 or soft Iron. A shield does nothing but redirect the magnetic field so the magnet has to actually be attracted to it. Any metal such as Aluminum, Copper or lead won't give the result you are looking for. MuMetal is a nickel-iron alloy composed of 77% nickel, 15% iron, and small amounts of various other elements that is highly effective for shielding magnetic fields.
eddie7478852 1 year ago
If you tried to shield one pole of the magnet the magnetic field around the other pole of the magnet will colaps. Magnetic shielding is intended to shield both pole of the magnet. in computer hard drives. This does not work 100% some of the magnetic field still pass throug the shield.
SpaceTrooper50 1 year ago
friction will be your problem here. Some here tried others solutions, like magnets a second rotating wheel in 90°, moved by the 1st
momAFK 1 year ago
the best you need is mu-metal, but is not cheap, try with zinc, cooper, or aluminium, i think that with aluminium you will need a much bigger size. you prove.
ozotik 1 year ago
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docatomics 1 year ago
@docatomics ...right aliment and a timed shielding to cut off the push pull effect at the precise moment in the cycle, without using more power to time than is produced "at the flywheel" Nickel does work for this shielding concept , so get to it brains, no need to Wait for pinky to fuck things up, the ruling parasitic elite have that duty covered.
When you have this down pat we can work on the magnetic bubble that defies gravity by creating bouyency of a vacum inside the torus
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crowxe 1 year ago
There is no protection from electromagnetic fields. Put this barrier which is magnetized and also acts as an object of attraction. In general, when you notice weakness in the system puts a corrective mechanism. However, it creates forces that are against what you get. Accordingly, everything we do has its counterpart on the system and finally be balanced. Better give up and not wasted your time in vain.
dian2n 1 year ago
try lead .
johnnecron 1 year ago
You need a 1.5 Gigawatt flux capacitor.
DammitDrag 1 year ago
hi guy, if you check out ......... FuelBan & Magnet Motors 1.wmv ........ videos 1 to 3, you can get an idea how to manipulate the steel to suite rotation. But it is not shielding you are correct.
Thom in Scotland.
fuelban 1 year ago
its never going to work... I dont understand what drives you guys...
kartkid100 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahaha dickhead!!!!
louiscoxx 1 year ago
bismuth is radioactive
sickdeathshappen 1 year ago
You need to use bismuth, it repels magnetic fields so it should work in place of the steel.
atomicengineer 1 year ago
@atomicengineer
if he only needs to reduce the flux a bit, wouldnt his idea of a magnetically inert metal like aluminum work better? If bismuth repels the field, perhaps it would be too much effect.
gripracer 1 year ago
try aluminium
reeding 1 year ago
The problem isn't magnetic shielding. For any circular path the net energy gain is always zero.
If you make a circular track, then for every point that is down hill, there is an up hill somewhere else. Since it always returns to the start again, the net gain is zero.
The same is true for magnetic potential. Alerting the flux as you move doesn't change this fact either, you are either going down or up. If you return to the same place, there was no gain in energy. Then add in friction losses..
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Laws of perpetual mouvement machines :
1- they don't need inicial impulse to start running.
2- once running they don't stop unless brake is aplied.
3- they work without electric wires or motors attached.
4- and finaly... they don't work, whatever you do.
If any of these rules is violated, is a fake machine.
jotacril 2 years ago
you have to imbalance magnets twards a monopolar magnet, because monopolar mags dont exist yu have just to weakwen 1 pole or focusing it into iron that binds its flux
konradu1980 2 years ago
Instead of a steel plate, try using a pyrolytic graphite plate! It's highly diamagnetic. It will repel magnetic fields.
aliphian 2 years ago
I believe it is possible.
ciaransoft 2 years ago
hay just a thought instead of moving the shield why not move the magnet?
missingblow 2 years ago
i like ur set up
AfghanKnight007 2 years ago
best of luck...perpetual motion is not possible, full stop. When you get it working, I'll apologise. Pigs clearing for takeoff on runway 3....
xbfalcon351coupe 2 years ago
@xbfalcon351coupe
Flying wasnt possible until they made the airplane. This perpetual motion argument is lame and dead as newton. The earth is a magnet that has continous cycles or north and south pole magnets. Sounds perpetual to me. Put 2 nails in a tree and add a multimeter and you will achieve volts and amps continually until the tree dies. When it dies replace it with a piece of foil. While ever magnets exist free energy and perpetual motion is available like water revolves in a cycle.
UTubeFreeMind 1 year ago
Right. And thats why there are so many mangnetically powered perpetual motion machines in the world...can you show ONE instance of such a device? NO. Why? Because there is no such thing. The earth will have magnetic fields for a long time geologically, but not for ever. It and the sun have got about 10,000 years left and counting. A tree producing a microscopic voltage proves nothing - it is a living entity. Replace it with foil and you get - nothing. Perpetual motion does not work. The end.
xbfalcon351coupe 1 year ago
Utubefreemind, just read your post again (answered it the 1st time at work) - you say the perpetual motion argument is lame and dead - are you talking about arguments AGAINST perpetual motion?? If so, you are on extremely shaky ground as there is not one shred of evidence anywhere of a working perpetual motion machine - they all either stop eventually or are shown to be scams powered by some hidden power supply. Surely you can see that if anyone was to come up with such a thing there would be
xbfalcon351coupe 1 year ago
(continued) no more energy crisis, no need to build hybrid cars, no problems with greenhouse gases etc etc etc and yet, despite the WHOLE scientific community and world's industries failure to come up with such a thing - yet you believe some dude on youtube has already perfected it? If it did work , do you not think that somebody (scientists, govt's, industry) would be beating a path to his doorstep waving handfuls of cash at him? It would be nice if it worked but basic physics says it can't..
xbfalcon351coupe 1 year ago
The problem with free energy is people or people in power cant make any money on it. So they will do as much as they can too prevent or hide free power from becoming a reality. Greed wins over peace and a good life.
DragonRoLo 1 year ago
@xbfalcon351coupe Of course not. If this was perfected, the worlds ecconomy would collapse and money is the worlds driving motivator.
He is more likely to vanish, like the Australian guys did, who came on TV offering them forsale.
se7en1976 1 year ago
Are you serious?? The ONLY reason there isn't perpetual motion machines everywhere is because the world economy would collapse????? You mean, other than an economic problem, these would work? If so, why didn't hybrids go the same way? (I can't believe I am even replying to this...) So how come they haven't dragged this guy away? Oh, and who were the Australians that vanished?? And why was it never in the media? Can't you see what a bullshit argument you are putting forward?? Jesus.....
xbfalcon351coupe 1 year ago
There is no known materiel to completely block magnetic field, but you can reduce it. I'd do some research before I made any more shields to see what material blocks the field the most. Nice job on the design so far, don't stop!
dustinsnowbear 2 years ago
This thing can not work. Is that the magniwork proposed thing? And putting magnets in any angle do not change anything. the mass always encounter two equal opposite vectors from the force field as it approach and then go away from it. You must create an imbalance between both vectors to make it work, just like in the SAVAGE-Z motor
cedddd2001 2 years ago
Apologies, I missed the point of the "shield".
vaccutter 2 years ago
Uh.. You do know you can't actually shield magnetic fields..
vaccutter 2 years ago
Yes you can....Hard disk drives have magnetic protection boundrys so the data doesn't get crapped up...bacause magnetism would change the values of the charge...
SFXgalore 2 years ago
Don't be so ridiculous. It's done all the time with audio speakers.
garystorey 2 years ago 2
of course you can , Mumetal is the best metal to do the job.
Daclaem 2 years ago
try this
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unknownkrow24 2 years ago
..this may be of help...You should put ferrous metal shields in place. The shields would each return the magnetic field of a magnet from N-S, without letting the field out of the immediate area of the magnet. You could use "C"-shaped shields, for example, one around each magnet....passed from one of our enginbeers on the shop floor!-also some entionioned Nu METAL??
tryer1000 2 years ago
further don't listen to the likes of..michielvanh ..listen to lastwill12-see you on Dragons Den and enjoy yourself?
tryer1000 2 years ago
..try zinc...
tryer1000 2 years ago
I can see that the magnetic flux is getting through the steel, hence stopping it in that place, so try using anti magnetic tape on your shileds?..vary the tape to get the required attraction from the magnet...just an idea?
tryer1000 2 years ago
Aluminium or copper won't work either, although they won't attract the magnets they also won't block the magnetic field.
Maybe you can put the surrounding magnets on gears that move the magnets closer and farther as the center disk spins.
dstone2004 2 years ago
The first mistake you made was building it in the first place. Better use your time by reading something about thermodynamics.
michielvanh 2 years ago
instead of trying to block the magnetic field..How about creating a more direct path to the stator magnets opposite pole.That might reduce it's effect on the rotar magnet.
abbirina 2 years ago
try to use lead
Demoman42 2 years ago
You need to turn your machine upside-down. You can't block a magnet, but you can turn a repulsive force to an attractive one using the plate you have. Tat means you need to have your pates down first, ad lift as the rotor turns. Bet ya a nickel that works.
RamDragon32 2 years ago
It's a good try, bro. It looks far better than many of the models I have attempted. I find it surprising how many people find it intuitive that that the known laws of physics can be broken. We know that singularities exist, and that is proof enough that under certain conditions, energies can rise to infinity. We have no mathematical or conceptual explanations to make sense of it. Perhaps perpetual motion is much the same.
altruist80 2 years ago
Keep trying on this because at some point you can find how this will work, i see the idea and not like a lot of others i think it should work, and to all the people who say this wont work and physics says this and that cant be done just think around 100-1000 years they will say this age in time had no idea how the world worked and how wrong we were
lastwill12 2 years ago
No, this will not ever work and you can't compare the timeline of knowledge with what we understand today.
adisharr 2 years ago
hey check your private mail. aluminium wont work buddy keep up the good work. dont mind the critics there the lazy ones. at least your doing something
Dave
paramedpiper 2 years ago
What you really want is a High nickel (75%) alloy of annealed metal. nickel-iron-copper-molybdenium should work pretty well. You could also work on a charged faraday cage arrangement, but I'd stick with the Metal shielding. Mu-metal is the name for the stuff.
Srfingfreak 2 years ago
try copper, it's diamagnetic...
sebairaf3 2 years ago
why do u try and make it work, it wont, even someone doing A level Physics knows why.
really do u not think that the fact we are able to use partical accererators make anti matter and can sustain a fusion reaction for a short period of time. scientists would have bean beaten by ur little wodden wheel with magnets....
ryanmildiner 2 years ago
um ... that should have been " not work"
ha ha ha
capitanseven 2 years ago
Or, Steel shields don't work, "not work" would be incorrect.
ekim051084 2 years ago
but if you added all 8 shields, would not the force that is stopping the revolution be cancanelled out because it would be around the entire circumferance and not at just one point . Aluminum will not wrok because I beleive it is transparent to magnetics. ???
capitanseven 2 years ago
the shied ,are there two types. reflecting verses absorbing?
datzfast 2 years ago
Electronic Goldmine has some high permeability sheetmetal for sale. Try it.
TeslaWasHere 2 years ago
aliminum
Skiddla 2 years ago
what if you angle the feild?
dasenuff 2 years ago
Use insulated copper coil from electric motor wrapped around the stationary magnet to destroy the field fora split second. Only enough power to equalize the stationary magnet is sufficient or it would defeat the object and perhaps damage the magnet do some tests one coil at a time witha 9v battery and a reed switch -search pulse motor in the tube look into Monel 400 it looses its magnetic field @ 35 deg C and Gadolinium 24degC good for a solar powered magnet motor or a magnet heat engine : )
maco10810 2 years ago
To break the field, by putting a barrier you need to put energy into the system. The most obvious way would be to put a magnet on your 'guard' aligned to repel both inner and outer magnets, it will then break the attraction. As it is, the magnets at the sticking point are sitting at an energetic minimum, so to break the attraction you need to put energy into it. This then equals the energy released during the spin to get to this point, and you get conservation of energy.
Apoptosis74 2 years ago
Apoptosis74, you shouldn't destroy people's beliefs and hopes into perpetua mobile. Remember, these unworkable devices have a millenia old tradition. So these things belongs to human culture - like religion or astrology. Imagine, if all people grasped laws of thermodynamics, than the whole multi-billion perpetua mobile business collapsed, people did not longer waste millions of workhours - and we couldn't longer watch amazing perpetua mobile videos on YT.
;-))
sacha4you 2 years ago
just give up
jasonthemong 2 years ago
Iron ... IRON.... IRON SHIELDS will work.
Check out John Bedini web site. Use IRON shields.
rkaztec7 2 years ago
I nearly facepalmed when i found out the magnets were actually being attracted to the steel plate :D
can you use graphite instead of steel?
blahdob 2 years ago
you need to study magnetics, the laws apply the same as Ohms law does to electricity. you cannot shield flux lines of force on/off, but you can shunt flux paths to lower force, which requires external energy for controlled motion of core material
uber2ber 2 years ago
Perpetual motion machines were considered pretty unlikely last time I checked.
iamnotunique 2 years ago
they still are.
you will never get something out of nothing.
but you can get more of something out of alittle nothing. lol
Donninator1 2 years ago
Big kudos for trying.
SUPerFreakUsa 2 years ago
It doesn't work, it shouldn't work and in theory it cannot work. Lifting a "shield", imposing a "shield" or moving the mags requires POWER. Use electro magnets and a rotary switching device and a BATTERY . It's called a DC motor.
arachnipope 2 years ago
Make a mechanism to move the pivot mags away and the whole thing will still never complete one rev. each fixed pole pulls or pushes the moving magnets towards itself but slows it the same amount as it passes by. NET ZERO. The progessive radial layout of the rotor simulates one long magnet but the rules stay the same so it can't go past center.
arachnipope 2 years ago
adishar,
Whats missing from these videos is any understanding of 8th grade physics. Magnets have no power. They have force. This drops off as the square of the distance. The progressive magnet rotor will NEVER complete one revolution. The power to move away the pivot mag will always be more than the wheel produces because it was pulled by that same magnet to begin with. NO FREE LUNCH
arachnipope 2 years ago 2
why don't you just back away the magnet in question instead of shielding it? backing away the magnet will weaken the field.
onthecuttingedge2005 2 years ago
because backing away the magnet requires energy, and the whole point is to try and make something that can move without requiring energy
woahitsbobitis 2 years ago
What's missing from most of these videos is any kind of analysis using a high-end simulation package.
adisharr 2 years ago
Thought about sticking the shield on a rotor just on the front of the row of magnets? Like it always makes a pole gap next to the row?
Wiktus1990 2 years ago
I don't think this design will work many others took this approach and failed. Beside the mechanical opening and closing of the shield will slow the wheel somewhat which will make it less efficient even if it worked.
You will need to create two moving wheels or cone shaped contraptions against each other with the magnets placed just right to make both wheels turn. The magnets will of course need to be placed on the cone-wheels.
GManGT 2 years ago
suenate la nariz!
paulmaccannon 2 years ago
if a magnetic field is caused by a flow of imaginary particles, as I've heard it described, mightn't an insulator block more magnetic field than metal, through which electrons move very freely?
HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 2 years ago
or maybe a magnetic field is made of a flow of real + & - particles
1acount 2 years ago
ya sorry i can't remember many details on that 'imaginary' particles theory, but if it was a flow of real particles, how come you need to MOVE a magnet to move electrons in a nearby wire?
if they were flowing around the poles of the magnet, id think it could induce a current in a nearby wire while stationary?
(<-- not pro just speculating lets not argue lets discuss)
HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 2 years ago
maybe because the particles are flowing at right angles to the wire
1acount 2 years ago
you can't block magnetism with "shields"
it will only reduce with distance or an opposed field
shodanxx 2 years ago
the property is called permeability, where a magnetic field is absorbed and redirected through the material
nelumbonucifera 2 years ago
yeah, i dont know if you tried it yet, but from my tests aluminum or copper wont shield anything. you need steel or iron, which unfortunatly will be attracted to the magnets.. more, smaller stators and rotor magnets maybe??
FoZZy1300 2 years ago
I believe mu-metal would work.
unnaturaltragedy 2 years ago
ues lead that might better
nonbolanos 2 years ago
One effect I found that may be helpful..a thin steel or tin sheet can shield 2 repelling magnets if the thickness and spacing are just right. The attraction to the metal cancels out the repel between the magnets through the metal. It is a balance, so moving 1 magnet away makes the other one attract the metal!!
If the metal is too thick, the magnets ignore each other and always attract the metal!
VideyoJunkei 2 years ago
this would"nt power my wife"s vibrator....
mugwamp4 2 years ago
Too bad your wife needs a vibrator. Not everything's fine with your lap-lizard, I see.
yt2vinay 2 years ago 2
Toldya it wouldn't work. Neither will aluminum or copper because they won't shield at all. But they will help slow down your rotor due to the lentz (sp) force.
1980PintoMan 2 years ago
testatika uses neutrinos and is considered by many an over-unity device.
i for one believe that over-unity and zero point energy exists. if ed scandlin could levitate 20 ton granit stones with a hand crank generator :: go figure. it is only an unsolved puzzle. the most important piece must be missing. find it hide it guard it for the rest of the world will kill for it. good luck
muddymuddymuddmann 2 years ago
I think you need Mu-metal ;o)
rebirth3X 2 years ago
try copper.. it's known to shield magnetic fields
timbolo1983 3 years ago
Tinnie Winnie little bit of difference in flux enough to overcome all the friction in the device?
Nope.....
These have been tried in a lot of different configurations..... It's dreaming to make a mechanical perpetual motion device.
mryellow123 3 years ago
wrap each magnet in insulation tape,rubber and insert into an iron tube, you will isolate one of the poles. set it all to repell and try again. make sure the rear of the magnet is capped with similar materials. i have tried my self and it does work. you could go to a plumbing supplier who should have black iron water pipe
RICHLES01 3 years ago
"in theory" you should read the first law of thermo dynamics problem solved.
Lokivoid 3 years ago
How will we ever get anywhere if we just follow the laws with out ever changeling them? personally I think one day there might be a way around these laws of physics, but hey what it really matter ask any scientist and they will tell you that nothing is 100% curtain or correct 100% of the time, that would be an impossibility.
adamslurch71 3 years ago
That would be productive if it just ignore everything we already know.
It's nice to challenge ideas sometimes but you generally get further if you use some of the ideas we've already proven instead of ignoring them.
mryellow123 3 years ago
If people didn't question everything then nothing would get discovered. KEEP ON WORKING AT IT. I believe it will be discovered and shielding is a good avenue. Keep on keeping on!
prabbit22m 3 years ago
Not STEEL! Use IRON!
Careica 3 years ago
how about finding something that cannot be magnetized itself, steel and especially iron will start to create their own magnetic field after a while of being that close to a magnet. thus needing more shielding and so on and so on.
adamslurch71 3 years ago
Magnetic fields (forces are caused by magnetic fields) cannot be blocked, no. That is, there is no such thing as a magnetic insulator. < < < some physics site
a quick google seems you can distort a field but you can not block a field ,good luck your need it :-)
sausage4mash 3 years ago 2
It seems that your aim is to disprove perpetual motion, and you are succeeding wonderfully.
futahroid 3 years ago
if only it wasnt for those pesky atoms and planets that rotate so effortlessly.
bccritters 3 years ago
You think that the movement of atoms and planets are examples of perpetual motion? There are no forces acting on those particles or bodies? Go back to school.
hossoneninesixtwo 3 years ago
they had to originate somewhere/somehow, and dont tell me you "know" how all of that started.
so tell me, how is it that trillions and trillions of atoms began their existence, and how are they organized so perfectly according to size, atomic weight, spacing, orbits, speed, balance, and proximities to each like atom????
educate me o wise one...
they just *cough* banged into existence? hahahahahaha
bccritters 2 years ago
Better you read Hawking's "Brief History of Time" oh dull one. It simplifies it down to a level I am sure you can understand and much more clearly than I could.
Once you do understand the theory - you will be in much better a position to argue against it. Then you won't sound quite like the uneducated dullard that you have in your postings so far.
hossoneninesixtwo 2 years ago
I just read it. Hawking explains everything with science. But he attributes everything before the big bang to God. He's like a modern day high-tech cave man.
Don't bother reading it.
JonnyRawket 2 years ago
You mean you just read the whole book since my last post on this thread - or someone's summary. And he does not attribute it all to God - he just leaves it open.
hossoneninesixtwo 2 years ago
No. I read Briefer History of Time a week ago. But, since your last post I picked it back up and re-read his final chapter.
I'm gonna stand by my original comment.
I was very disappointed because Hawking's theories pretty much debunk every religious notion. But the things that are just beyond his own grasp, he once again attributes to a god. I guess our species is hard wired to do that - it's served some evolutionary purpose obviously.
JonnyRawket 2 years ago
thank you for your reply, and your RATIONAL response. it is good to see that some people can conversate in a civil manner, unlike some of the "educated" here.
bccritters 2 years ago
the universe is too vast, to organized, too symmetrical, too order, too small, too perfect to be understood simply by reading a book.
i have read many books on these subjects, including quantum theories and such, and they ALL make some sort of convincing argument to "prove" their THEORIES.
i can randomly throw a dart at a handful of "answers" and have just as much understanding as anyone else.
all i have to say is prove it without words.
(that means action if you dont know)
bccritters 2 years ago
I agree with you completely on your last sentence - I will believe - when these devices have been created as a working model - in the shops and in people's houses - truly producing over-unity. Like I may have said before - I am sill holding my breath....after decades and decades of false starts...
hossoneninesixtwo 2 years ago
i do NOT believe in over-unity per se, but what I am hopeful of is that perhaps like solar power, we will find ways of using "other" energies that do not readily consume.
i also believe that if someone does/has discovered a device that seemingly runs over-unity, they simply are not accounting for ALL sources and inputs of energy. (gravity, solar, cosmic rays, who knows....)
bccritters 2 years ago
Neat video!
When I was a kid I made a 'perpetual motion' machine with magnets with two separate discs placed above each other and magnets aligned in even spacing repelling each other all the way around. With the appropriate angle and appropriate placement I got the device to move!
After watching for 50 min and watching it get slower and slower, I was dismayed after it stopped. I removed the magnets and to my chagrin, the magnets were 'dead'. :( The magnets were providing the energy.
Good Vid!!
Tarkusine 3 years ago
WTF is a aliminu????????its aluminum!
TANKOVERLORD 3 years ago
US Aluminum
UK/ Aus/ NZ Aluminium
Different vocab...
hossoneninesixtwo 3 years ago
What are you doing in Tenerife and NOT kitesurfing? if i ever move there (hopefully) thats all im going to do.
and anyone care to explain what your machine does? going for perpetual motion thing?
sidstille 3 years ago
good work brother, DONT GIVE UP
clackdwack 3 years ago
i have one idea, you could construct simple construction at the start of rotating magnets, which would push the stator pagnets up before commoing start position to reaching the next stator magnets. The stator magnect probably will need update, that the rotor would tilt the static magnets as easy as posible. Chears.
necasm 3 years ago
interesting approach. I have a similar model concept, based on magnet schielding. I think this is the only way to make a workable device with magnets.
You should take into account all interactions, between magnets and between shield and magnets. Some of these interactions produce useful work wich can be used if you put a flywhell in your device, to store this work.
aetherix01 3 years ago
look into taking the magnet shield from a hard drive...you can buy a mess of them for cheap from ebay
leathergoldfish 3 years ago
Both Fire and Lead, temporarily turn off or block the magnetic field, check it now!
QntmCat 3 years ago
Why not use lead? Magnetic waves can not go through lead.
GentleManSteve65 3 years ago
can you put a magnet on the end of the wand to lift the other magnet in place. can you put the wand on a track to push the magnet up as it approaches. please don't give up. the greatest leaps forward were actually stumbles. ignore the pathetic losers who troll the net. their lives are meaningless while they accomplish nothing. they fill their lives with feelings gathered from others to convince themselves they are real. please continue.
TeslaKuhn 3 years ago
Google, "One Way Magnetic Shielding" for your answer.
Good luck!
jamesroney 3 years ago
It is very amusing: all of these losers trying to find a magnetic shield in order to create perpetual motion. Meanwhile, in the real world, physicists use the conservation laws to prove that there can be no passive magnetic shield which is itself not affected by magnets. It can be done using electromagnetism, but that requires energy, rather than creating it.
flowerbower 3 years ago
Exactly !! That's why there isn't perptual motion or something :)
Dilekz 3 years ago
And many times in history, great people that we now honor today were told they were wrong by many others, if not everyone else. Fast forward to today, and these very things that they were trying to convince everyone are now the basis for our science and experiments today.
PooptartSkall 3 years ago
Don't you think that that excuse is wearing rather thin when it comes to 'free energy'? Magnet-based perpetual motion machines were among the very first to be thought of. We now know that they can never work. Real science progresses. Pseudoscience remains stuck in the same old dead-ends.
flowerbower 3 years ago
So you have done tons of experiments with magnetics have you? I don't often take people on their word when they say something. With magnetics it lies in the bedini circuit(not like the one mythbusters botched) as a start. Look at Lutech's creation. Using pulsed dc curect and ac induction is the answer which many are finding. The problem is its not long term profitable and all big companies that could produce them in mass aren't interested.
JMarshallUD 3 years ago
Like many ignorant youngsters, I played around with magnets, thinking they were 'magic'. I even tried to build a Dean Drive, which was very 'big' at the time. I then became a scientist, and realized why I had been wasting my time. Bedini and the others have discovered nothing; that is why they carefully avoid contact with the bona fide scientific community (praise from rentacranks like Aspden and Puthoff does not count).
flowerbower 3 years ago
you have built a WORKING bedini motor yourself?
bccritters 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahalololol icant believe there are still duckeggs out there trying to make this principle work learn about phaser and vector diags and then when yo understand e.m. you will not waste anymore time on this try something more useful oh and the 2nd law of thermodynamics says it all. i hate to see time wasted u ncould achieve so much more
nteslate 3 years ago
No more recent clip? I think he may be killed by the gov't.
supplierhq 3 years ago
Oh man I had thought of this idea a while ago but never had the guts to try it out... If you could post a video with aluminum shields that would be awesome!
bchokola 3 years ago
Has no bady thought of polarity reversal?
if the sheet steel shield its self is to much reduction or not enough, why hasnt anyone thought of applying magnets to the sheelds? afterall the steel shields are conductive to magnetism, all this could be remedied with opposit force and the use of electo pulses (ie: ELECTRO-MAGNETISM).
neo45plus1 4 years ago
lol are so gu the magni have scape they not spudto hav space
jeffcelo 4 years ago
By the way, the steel is not so much the problem as it is the size, shape and thickness. He could use plastic to replace the moving shield and simply fasten a very small shield in the right place on the plastic. This way he can still pursue his moving gate concept.
jamesroney 4 years ago
His stators are part of the problem and his magnets on the armature are way to close together and are out of phase with the stator.
One magnet helps the next magnet to pass through the flux, assisted by proper shielding. Click on my name to learn more.
jamesroney 4 years ago
try pyrolytic_graphite
vodac33 4 years ago
That is good to know. Thank you very much.
davidchenard 4 years ago
Try a curved shield. The curve of a metal measuring tape deflects the magnetic field but would attract the magnets. Perhaps a curved non magnetic metal such a aluminum would also deflect the magnetic field without attracting the magnet. Instead of blocking it - deflect it.
davidchenard 4 years ago
91) There is no such thing as deflecting magnetic flux. (2)Curvature only helps on shielding corners. (3) Magnetic fields pass right through aluminum. (4) Thin shielding using tin works great.
Click on my name to see video for magnetic shielding.
-James
"Child of tomorrow here today, born years ago"
jamesroney 4 years ago
there is a material in almost all hard drives that shield magnetic fields. they are shaped much like a disc brake pad. I understand it's one of the best materials to use. let us know how that works for you.
nasanction 4 years ago
If you've gotten you're aluminum shields installed have you found that the "mechanical bumping" of your (im assuming its brass) swing arm is slowing down the works a bit ? If it is you might try to install disc magnets on the tops of all your shields and one similar disc magnet on the bottom of your swing arm like polarized with the shield magnets of course so you can achieve your deflection with less loss of mechanical energy ?
srofficial06 4 years ago
Where can I find bismuth metal?
davidchenard 4 years ago
blow your nose. then try those other things.
Brainsplosion 4 years ago
Instead of trying to shield the magnets, just push them father away with the rotor lever. Basically, spring load the magnets. ;-)
Kevinite 4 years ago
That is good thinking, but it will be tricky to do that without slowing the rotations of the wheel too much. I would try a very week spring on a piston pushed back using a long lever. The weeker the spring and the longer the lever the better.
davidchenard 4 years ago
why dont you just put your shield directly on the arm?
bccritters 4 years ago
Try a magnetically impermiable diamagnetic material, bismuth or pyrolytic graphite~
Plataea 4 years ago
Do you know of more readily available materials that could be used as magnetic shields even though less effective?
davidchenard 4 years ago
There are several commonly available diamagnetic materials but bismouth and pyrolitic graphite are top of the line, they wont attenuate the field by much but may be enough to help overcome the initial magnetic threshold
Plataea 4 years ago
I just heard about bismuth, but are you saying that it doesn't work well as a shield compared to steel? Steel is so effective though that maybe it doesn't have to. Will it cut the field in half do you think?
davidchenard 4 years ago
Steel is magnetically permiable and may loose whatever effectivness it has over time, pyrolitic graphite and bismuth are not, I dont know what the degree of magnetic attenuation of these materials is but I dont believe its anything near half.
Plataea 4 years ago
i don't see a video where you used the other type of shield.
ekuwa69 4 years ago
It seams to me that the Prendev motor has already solved this problem by having three rotors.
I am no expert.
But it looks to me that in the case of the Prendev motor two magnets are pulling against one magnet in the critical positions.
The two magnets can over power the one magnet, hence the need for the three rotors.
I could be wrong about this, since I have only seen these magnetic motors first time about two months ago.
Cheers!
Z-Man
HydrOxyBoost 4 years ago
just put a system of cam with spring to lift that statorand it should fix that problem
icfutur 4 years ago
I thought of a manetic motor years ago which of course i never buit but my fly wheel was vertical and relativly heavy and places vertically and the magnets (only two) acted like pistons and were drawn towards an iron plate. The iron plates (there was one for each piston acted like valves and were placed or displaced mechanically in front of the "pistons)
juliijulii 4 years ago