Gunners won't shut up in law school! (Law School DVD)

[ihaterobbie123]

This isn't specific to law degrees, it happens in useful university degrees too.

There's something called powerpoint, ask your lecturer for his slides.

[nstiver]

I am glad that we at UNM are not this snarky and competative. Some people talk, some dont, not a big deal. Study hard and rape those exams and it will all come out in the wash.

[MsWongderful]

I subscribe to being a firefly - stay quiet until you have something brilliant to say that benefits the entire class, then say it. Minimize these firefly comments to once a month, and not only will nobody rag on you for not shutting up, they'll actually look forward to seeing your hand in the air. If it can wait, save it for after class when you're catching up with classmates or the professor.

[bhimz2]

i believe there should be a balance,raping your gobs and going off topic is completely some thing no one wants to bear with.if you are really intelligent, great! show it somewhere else >.> however if you cannot understand something or really need to ask an important question or clarify something, then do it right away, others be damned! gunning is bad but participation in class is important if you need to get your doubts cleared without needing after classes. after all you are paying for it!

[ASUGIRL09]

I get trying to understand the material, but sometimes they throw out some crazy scenarios (especially in Torts) that go completely off topic. It's always the same people. I pay 68 dollars a class and close to a 1,000 dollars a week (I did the numbers one day while a "gunner" was getting our professor off topic). I want to start docking people for time wasted. Unless it is relevant to what we are discussing, save it for after class. Once grades come out though, they do tend to be more reserved.

[Xtraudinair]

I am going to PEE MY PANTS next semester in law school when I notice that someone is a Gunner.

[nina090991]

Answering all the questions is being a gunner???

I guess that I'm the undergrad gunner , but I always thought I was taking one for the team ,doing my coeds a favor since most of them did not know the answers and the professor was going to start calling out names and most would end embarrass ,piss and looking at me like I was to blame for not stopping him.

You are damn if you do , and damn if you don't. You and everyone else will probably end with the same doubt.

[digitalcntrl]

2:38 --> You don't up your grade by gunning.

Huh? You certainly can since professors often bump grades slightly for participation.

[kaylafreakinrox]

haha this is SO true! even in undergrad it is true. perhaps the loud-mouths are intelligent and original, but in all likelihood it is just some asshole wanting attention or trying to compensate for what he/she lacks in grades or in personality.

[KurdishHypercurve]

The participants in this video are such an annoying mix between self-righteousness and obnoxiousness that I think I might even prefer listening to the Gunners in their class!

[walsead]

@KurdishHypercurve who the hell are you kidding? and what dog piss law school are you going too? Take a math class and learn to divide retard, each class is indeed that much. Ps, you sound like pretentious prick.

[KurdishHypercurve]

@walsead I beg to differ, Mister. And get anger management classes to help with your issues.

[ilkkavu]

If I was in law school I would be a gunner. :D

[thundakat29]

@ilkkavu *were

[CadenRolland]

I think what they are saying here is that it is ok to learn by discussing but give other people a chance and don't wast everyone's time by taking the class down the road of possible every argument.

Learning = OK

Verbal Class Domination = Not OK

[gaoyipin123]

can't believe these kids got to law school without taking basic sociology courses in undergrad... -s-t-u-p-i-d-

[WarrenAch]

@gaoyipin123 True true, if these guys ever land in a BigLaw firm( which is known to hold the highest amount of sociopaths), they will shoot themselves after the first day.

[JapanAnimeSuki]

psst....I'm one of the quiet ones.

[alphade10]

That's why we were not allowed to question in the lecture due to time wasters. There were tutorials for this kind of thing.

[wolfservant5]

stupid

[erato99]

I would have never gone to class if they didn't penalize for absences...

[mdmrz9]

MurphGiovani is an idiot.

[k94845]

wow, I've watched two vids from this documetary and all it is about is jr. high crap. When you go to law school your focuse should be on your end goal and not acting like you're 12. I think these people need a does of reality and start acting like adults.

[redSHIFT69]

lol no matter how much you study in law school you'll never turn into a medical student.

Briliant in law school? lol

[KurdishHypercurve]

@redSHIFT69 your reasoning sucks. clearly someone attending a law school is not ever going to qualify with a medical degree. fortunately for humanity you aren't any medic

[redSHIFT69]

@KurdishHypercurve

1. i'm a medical student

2. if you want to be lawyer, you should be an astrophysicist and study the laws of nature. oh wait. most law students can barely add and subtract.

[KurdishHypercurve]

@redSHIFT69 I am many things including a man not impressed by the comments posted by the alleged medic he is interlocuting with right now

[ASUGIRL09]

@redSHIFT69 Your comments are illogical. There is no explanation to your reasoning, just stereotypical assumptions. Yes, med school is very difficult, law school is also stressful and very competitive. We do the same credit hours as an MD, but in 3 years. We don't have the advantage of doing a residency. We figure it out on our own. Law school rewires our thinking process. To do that in 3 years is overwhelming. Bottom line is both professions require intelligence and are needed in society.

[365to173repubsPWNED]

@ASUGIRL09 You think the necessity for lawyers is even slightly comparable to the necessity for medical professionals in today's world?

[walsead]

@MurhGiovanni Wow. You must be the second fucking coming of Justice Warren. I am impressed that you can get wasted with your case book, read a heavily annotated version of the case, deduce every legal argument, and never have to attend class. But that leaves me with a question. Why the fuck are you in law school then? Why not just come out to a state like CA and pass the bar without dumping $50k a year, even if you're on scholarship you're wasting three years of your life. Good job jack-ass.

[MurphGiovanni]

lol @ the idea of these nerds trying to sub-classify other nerds...although speaking excessively in class is lame...it is also lame to complain about missing out on what the professor had to say on account of these "gunners"...90% of law students are nerds...look at the motherfuckers in this video

and i go to fordham law...you know why i've never heard the term, "gunner?" bc my friends and i aren't fucking nerdy enough to throw around lame law school slang popularized by philawyer

[ServantoftheTRUEGOD]

this video is so funny.."if by the middle of the first semester you don't know who the jackasses are in your class is probably you" Lol. classic.

[Raspout1981]

2:25 hahaha that was funny !

[Raspout1981]

Yeah they allwais have an opinion no one cares about your opinion we want 2 learn law but honestly they dont bother me, i dont waste a single percent of my energy to be angry at someone like that i just shut up, and laugh at them in my head dont waste energy hating them its useless, unless you value peer approval for hating the same person they do and you need to be seen as a member of the group, which i dont give a fuck about since they will backstab you for a job or else.

Just do your thing

[TearsForMyPeople]

These people are idiots. Realize this, in the real world, if any of these people actually make it in the real world, you have to work on public speaking, especially extemporaneous speaking and inter-personal speaking skills SOMEWHERE. Where else than law school, sure you are trying to learn something in class, but chances are the material you are learning is going to be pumped and dumped on the bar and thats that; it's not like you are going to remember every word spoken in class.

[abvmoose87]

Holy shit this is so true.

Im just in community college studying biology and chemistry and we have one of these gunners.

She just wastes the teachers and our time with pointless discussions about the environment every class.

- If by your first semester you dont know who the gunner is it's probably you.

This made me lol :)

[DEConnoisseur]

I find that the quieter you are, the more impact your words have when you use them.

[KurdishHypercurve]

@DEConnoisseur right

[pdaervo]

This video is disgusting.

[greg5566]

Yeah, maybe, but I have to say the two years I spent in grad school to get a master's in English were about the best time I've had. Even though it was just a mediocre school, still the people there were 10 times more interesting than the ones at law school. I have a friend getting a PhD in philosophy now, and his classmates are 100 times more interesting than the people in law school. It's law school that's the problem--it just isn't what it was in Paper Chase days.

[greg5566]

Yes, this is a good point. The professors DO appreciate students who make smart comments. That's why the facebook crowd is so irritated by the few who enjoy class.

I was truly shocked by the lack of intellectual curiosity in law school. I was expecting dozens of alpha personalities anxious to challenge their wits against their classmates. It amazes me how wrong that perception of law school is.

[trisix99]

@greg5566 besides if you are or were genuinely interested in the material, then more power to you. Howcome you're so bitter about law school? Why you seem so resentful is beyond me... but if you act the same way in real life as you do on youtube - i.e., spamming negative comments on the forums - then maybe i can see why you would be bitter.... because no one really wants to be near or talk to a weirdo with a chip on his shoulder. ;D just my opinion.

[greg5566]

I've said it three times now, but I am bitter because it was such an enormous disappointment. First, obviously these people are the worst people in the world anyway, and second, as I said, I was expecting law school to be challenging and stimulating. And no, I have never been surrounded by people like this before. Yes, I am the Harrison Bergeron of my law school.

[tim72184]

@greg5566 : Perhaps there's a miscommunication going on here. Intelligent commentary is all well and good. It helps advance the class discussion so that that professor can further his or her point. What annoys people is one of two things. One, the person who always raises their hand and takes the professor on a tangent, or two, the person who raises their hand every three seconds while reading from their commercial outline who ultimately turns out to be one of the worst students after exams.

[greg5566]

Yes I think that is partially right--everyone hates those people, especially the ones who just like to hear themselves talk. However, I disagree for two reasons. One, many people hate _anyone_ who talks because it makes them look bad. And two, myself, I hate all the ones who _don't_ talk. The teacher asks a question and everyone just continues reading facebook.

[greg5566]

For me, the TRUE gunners are the ones who worry how they look, no matter the cause. Someone who doesn't like another person talking because it makes their silent self look bad to me is far more a "gunner" than the one who talks all the time because he is interested in the class.

[mma9900]

Sorry to butt in on the conversation, but how can you say "many people hate anyone who talks because it makes them look bad" when grades are only dependent on the exams?

My assumption is that most law students don't care how intelligent they look as long as the A's come out while the money goes in. The same applies to any form of collegiate education. Bravo to the silent man who gets A's, and ditto to the know-it-all that gets A's.

[greg5566]

Yes, that is the question, but you're asking the wrong person. For someone who only cares about her grades, why would she care about how much someone else talks in class?

Your question is correct, but your belief that I'm making some unfounded claim is false. Whatever the reason, the others in this conversation have _shown_ it is true.

One might respond because it takes away from the professor's teaching? But that is bullshit--they can always raise their own hands.

[NYerintransit]

I usually prefer to be quiet and listen to others. I don't like the spotlight. But in several of my classes, there would be this pregnant silence between the instructor's questions and someone answering. It would often be this silence that went on and on and on. I just felt obligated to put my hand up, because every week it seemed like the group was on life support. Now, the class material was rarely a walk in the park, but come on! If nothing else, try answering the question by asking one.

[greg5566]

@innominehumanitas The truth is if you are interested in the law you _won't_ fit in, because most of those around you are only interested in the money they hope to make after school. It takes a long time, but you will find that there ARE other people in class who are smart and interested, it's just hard to find them through the sea of morons on facebook.

[walsead]

Seriously dude? You hate your life don't you? I know EXACTLY the type of dip shit you are. EXACTLY.

[greg5566]

I know what type of dip shit you are too. What's the point--does that give you some sense of accomplishment? Do you have anything productive to say?

And yes, I can honestly say that law school has been the biggest disappointment of my life. I was expecting an intellectually stimulating environment surrounded by my intellectual peers, who knows, maybe even some who challenged me. OMG--I have never in my life been in a situation that requires _less_ brain power than law school.

[greg5566]

@innominehumanitas The biggest problem I have with the term "gunner" is that the true gunners misuse it. Gunners are not the people who talk in class every day because they are interested in the class. The gunners are the ones who talk to show how smart they are, who won't share their notes, who obsess about grades. Gunners are the ones who are in school for all the wrong reasons, _not_ the very few who are there because they are interested in the law.

[walsead]

Those of you that are defending gunners have NO idea what you are talking about. If you're not in law school then shut your trap. We pay hundreds of dollars per class to hear what the prof has to say. Not to hear some douche bag bump his gums about "what he thinks the law should be" or "why the supreme court was wrong." If you are in law school and you're defending them, you're the gunner. Law students aren't universal pricks worldwide, maybe gunner's are actually dickheads that nobody likes...

[greg5566]

@walsead "We pay hundreds of dollars to hear the professor": you're a moron. That you think law school is supposed to teach you by listening passively demonstrates such an utter lack of the purpose of law school, of the law itself, you should be embarrassed. The only reason you're _not_ is because 90% of the morons in school are like you. Safety in numbers, sheep. Agreeing with everyone else doesn't make you right.

[greg5566]

@walsead Here's a question for you--let's test your legal mind. If _I_ pay hundreds of dollars per class to engage the professor, challenge her, be challenged by her, why would I give a fuck what you paid to sit in the class? How do I have a responsibility to you? The _teacher_ might have a responsibility to you to shut me up if I am ruining the class, and yet . . . that never happens, does it. Explain to me your complaint that _I_ have a responsibility to make your experience better.

[walsead]

I rest my case. You sir are a gunner. Your reply represents a total lack of understanding that there are OTHER people in the room besides you. I never said I cared if someone made an engaging comment or presented an educated query. My issue is with the d-bags like you that talk purely because they like the sound of their voice. Those who present nothing engaging to the topic but merely want to impress the prof in some vain quest for a bump in grade.

[greg5566]

Oh I agree with that. The ones who try to impress the prof. by talking are annoying. We don't have many of those in school. They are gunners--the same ones, as I said, who obsess about grades, and so on. But talking because I love the sound of my own voice, and because I much prefer engaging the prof. than just sitting there like a lump, that's not the same as a gunner. It might _appear_ to be the same, because both make you look bad, but it's not.

[greg5566]

I have people come up to me after class to say they love it when I talk--I'm not worried about whether what I say is interesting.

[walsead]

I suggest you start caring what other people in your class think of you because your going to be practicing law with them for as long as you remain in your law schools local. If they all think you're a tool, you will be treated accordingly. The prof DOES attempt to get people like you to shut up by not ever calling on you. Somehow you keep from getting the hint and leave your hand in the air for the whole hour.

[greg5566]

haha--the profs call on me immediately when I raise my hand; I've never had one see my hand and leave it up. I've even had profs thank me for helping them to keep the class interesting. (You contradicted yourself a little here--if your concern is the things someone says in class, then if someone is never called on, you could hardly have that problem with them.)

[greg5566]

Did you mean "locale"? I'm not. NYC is a big place, I'm the only person from my class at my firm and my firm takes great joy in destroying other attorneys; I'm not worried about what a bunch of transactional lawyer douchebags think of me.

My biggest concern about practicing law is that if the caliber of lawyer I'm in school with are all the more challenge I'm going to have in the real world, practicing law will be boring indeed.

[greg5566]

Anyway, I take it from your lack of response that you cannot explain to me why I have any responsibility to anyone else in class because they are spending hundreds of dollars a class. Less facebook, more questions in your contracts class and you might have seen what a dumb complaint that was.

[MurphGiovanni]

@walsead aww boohoo...i want to hear the professor and get my money's worth...lol you fucking pussy...you are no worse than the "gunner" on which you hate

i go to law school like a man...i skip class...get drunk...and just read the book on my own...i don't need some pedantic fuck who couldn't hack it as an attorney to regurgitate a half-cocked version of the text...fuck your life, moron

[KurdishHypercurve]

@walsead don't exaggerate. you aren't paying hundreds per class and your ruminations aren't interesting me either

[westendKisa]

gunners, tits or GTFO

[0cbrian]

Ok I have to say that as a 1L student it seems like some of the people in this video have an inferiority complex. I personally am not a great student, I study less than a lot of people, but I am interested in many subjects in law. Therefore when I'm sitting in class (where I have to be anyway) and the professor asks a question I like to answer and participate in discussions because its more fun and interesting than just sitting there.

[greg5566]

@0cbrian yes yes yes. I wish we were in class together.

[cwcpr]

Tara sounds like Sarah Palin.

Word to the wise... see the speech therapist... :-)

[jinx0r]

That quote at the end is actually from Prophet Muhammad.

[Rickardio54321]

Law school lectures are a fucking joke. I am ashamed to be a part of them. Legal education in the USA is nonsense (at least the 1st year).

I set let gunners run their fuckin' mouths. I don't really care either way. What a sham either way.

[jmarinpsu]

Hilarious. Simply brilliant.

[criceenglish]

That blond chick has huge shoulders. Weird.

[tiesto82]

the kid with the most friends isn't necessarily the kid with the best career prospects. So unless you are at a T-14, performance is paramount

[tiesto82]

Fiction! i talk alot in class (3 to 4 times a class) and I am ranked in the top 4%. Its called different styles of learning. There are passive learners and active learners. The amount you talk doesnt correlate to your final performance but with many students it is positively related. The bottom line is, this is law school and its not about fun its about grades, rankings, and careers. Honestly, do whats best for you even if that is talking alot. Who cares what others think?

[jonawllen]

if this comment is any indication, you need to shutup

[tiesto82]

Eat a dick... oh and enjoy the bottom 50%

[jonawllen]

well, you being in the top 4% makes me think you got to a real shithole law school. If I were in the bottom 50% at my law school, at least it would be among other intelligent people.

[tiesto82]

you may not want to make assumptions about the quality of a school I attend when you have no way to substantiate your information

[icantstandfags]

this is not fiction, you do need to shut your damn mouth and your toilet bowl law school wouldn't be hard to make top 4%. i'm in the bottom 50% of my 1st tier law school and i guarantee that my summer job beats the hell out of the summer CLASSES you'll be taking, wishing that you could have my job.

Good luck loudmouth, the worst lawyers are the ones that judges have to keep telling to shut up. That will definitely be you. Don't go into litigation.

[TruBlueRepublicanSue]

good luck as you get slow legal economy PWN3D bitch...

[pgalvi87]

what school do you go to?

[greg5566]

No, the worst lawyers are the ones who even after a year or two of law school would make "arguments" such as you make here.

"1st tier law school." Not Harvard, huh? Not Ivy league? Not top 10? Not top 20?  No, somewhere between 20 and 50. Lemme guess--George Mason? Hastings? Utah? Ever notice people who go to Harvard or Yale never say "Ivy League," people in other Ivy league schools never say "top ten," people in the top ten never say "top twenty"?

[dicknizzle01]

Douche

[igotnoideawhattoput]

This is just loads of bull crap~~~

[bigstock20]

This has to be fake. Other students input is valuable as it compliments or rejects the material taught by the Professor . These same arguments made by that student will be the potential argument you'll be defending or complimenting during your final.

Also that dumb blond needs to be back in the kitchen

[greg5566]

haha, you obviously don't go to law school. No, shocking and dismaying as it is, this video represents the attitude of 90% of the students in law school toward their education.

[NYerintransit]

The term "gunner" implies that there are other people in class willing to volunteer.

In some of my classes, I am only a gunner, because I prefer not to be called upon, and when I simply choose to be quiet, nobody and I mean NOBODY volunteers. It makes me antsy.

[greg5566]

That's how I am. Sometimes, for fun, I give the morons a few minutes to answer before I raise my hand. The truth is when you raise your hand, it makes them feel guilty about spending all their time on facebook. You are, by being merely competent, making them look bad.

[cr500rebuild]

I didn't care if people raised their hand a lot, as long as they offered correct answers or at least knew what they were talking about. I hated people who asked useless "hypos".

[cr500rebuild]

Gunners. I think I was a gunner on steroids. I never missed class, outlined all the cases, highlighted the key terms, did outside research beyond what was assigned, and raised my hand all the time every day. But, I didn't ask hypos - I just gave a brief (and correct) answer. Time and again. The professors loved me because NOBODY would raise their damn hands. Only 3 of us would participate in class. So screw you complainers. I knew I was hated by students for this, but I didn't care.

[mjn76]

"But, I didn't ask hypos - I just gave a brief (and correct) answer. Time and again."

I don't think you would fall into the "gunner" category. The people being complained about are those who have a need to hear their own voice and have that need on a consistent basis. The worst ones are those who go on tangents not fully related to the issue being discussed.

[greg5566]

haha---outlined the cases, did outside research?! Yes, you were a gunner. :) But that's a good thing.

[CIeveland]

I can't wait until I get to law school. I'm going to be a gunner of the highest order, and it's going to make me so happy to pissing pricks like this off. LOL.

[theistus]

heh. Enjoy your peergroup. You'll be the only one in it.

[greg5566]

Yes exactly. That's the attitude. It took me a year or so to stop wishing everyone in class weren't assholes.

[zoysite]

Come on, hand-raising and asking questions is good, and doesn't make a gunner. A gunner asks a question to which they already know the answer, which is a waste of time. But people who ask questions are just getting their money's worth. This series is a bigger waste of time than the gunners.

[GoUCLABruins]

We have gunners in college too.

[hurting]

There's a second kind of jackass in every law school, the kind of jackass that goes around resentfully talking shit about other people all the time. That's what some of the people in this video sound like to me.

[mjn76]

"There's a second kind of jackass in every law school, the kind of jackass that goes around resentfully talking shit about other people all the time. That's what some of the people in this video sound like to me."

Yes, you're right. But that's a different law student type, lol. There are all sorts.

[greg5566]

haha, that's not the second type, that is 90% of them.

[BrianDesigns127]

I hate the "quite ones" you don't know what is going on in their minds... How can u beat themm??

[mjn76]

"I hate the "quite ones" you don't know what is going on in their minds... How can u beat themm??"

Try imitating them.

[Hurlman418]

This video grossly overstates the problem. Most of the "gunners" in my classes are helpful because they ask what everyone else is afraid to ask for fear of looking stupid. Also, they help avoid those awkward silences when a professor poses a question to the whole class and no one else is willing to give it a shot.

[operationnorthwoodz]

Gunners have ADD, with or w/o Ritalin, Dexedrine or Desoxyn (crystal meth). It's classified as disability by Voc Rehab. Probably caused by vaccine OD, fluoride OD, DIEt colas (aspartame = methyl alcohol & formaldehyde), sukking tailpipes, etc. I audited 3L Trial Practice w/o a degree, for free, mock court, etc. I was the 1st grad to win a trial pro se. Prof got a kick out of that. Best law skool is traffic court, easiest trial to win, but law students R 2 skeert to do it. CONSTITUTIONAL LAW 101.

[tksjustice]

We call them fuckheads.

[muckraker87]

We don't call them gunners at my law school, we call them "rock stars"

[AlixLwanga]

This is horrible, so you mean you can't ask questions if you don't understand what is going on??

[xkxwx]

you don't even go to university.

[godscuttingyoudown]

People who become lawyers have a "knowone has the right to speak but me" nazi boy attitude

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire-Writer

shamefully it takes a thinker to find wisdom

[NancyDrew86]

I always hated the gunners who would ask a question that calls for a very involved answer with 10 seconds left in the class. I'm like "why couldn't you have saved that question for after class?"

[MonardaManiac]

This video represents some of the worst things in law school. No, I'm not talking about the gunners, I'm talking about the ones who spend this much time worrying about them. Everyone pays a big price to go to law school, not just in money but also in time and health (thank you stress). Do not add more stress to these people's lives by labeling them. Do not add more stress to your own life by wasting time on unhelpful criticisms. Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

[xkxwx]

... Gunner.

[xkxwx]

... Gunner.

[michigan83guerrilla]

There shall be no debate in a law classroom!!!

[muckraker87]

Two ears and one mouth- words to live by, not just in law school

[aalmi002]

Remember the only thing that matters is your performance on the final exam, not the one in class. Trust me, I was lost most of the time in my Civ Pro class and still got a B+.

[scottishboomerang]

The trouble is that some are confident, and interested in their subject and some are not or are there to gossip and pose and not to learn. Gunners - in any field - are there because that's their learning style, and TBH, they didn't got to law school to make friends. They went to get a friggin' law degree.

[dparad22]

What if participation is part of your grade? In my Con Law class, 5 points gets awarded to the final exam (worth ~100 points) for the most active participant in class. Does this promote the gunner in all of us?

[ShiningBrtr]

Gunners. Everyone hates them. Amen.

[scottishboomerang]

If you don't like being in a participatory class, might I suggest an online JD like Abe Lincoln School of Law?

[ShiningBrtr]

There's nothing wrong with participation. What's wrong is arrogant jerks.

[scottishboomerang]

Yes. And law school is full of them. Especially the ones who sit in the back, don't prepare for class, and spend thousands of dollars of tuition time gossiping about which student is doing which professor and what people are wearing.

[kidhalo]

how do idiots like that get into law school??  If it's that easy, then i'm wasting my time on lsat preparation.

[greg5566]

NO YOU'RE NOT! Your LSAT preparation is all that matters. You must get the highest lsat score you can, to get into the highest ranked school you can, to get the best job offers you can. THEN, you never need open another book the rest of your time in school (if you don't want to) and you'll do fine.

[murtnbud]

all this defending...sounds like you may be a gunner yourself

[momzlilmonster]

I cant believe youd have time to worrie about others with all the work ,reading,researching you have to do! its all a bunch of bs.

[BlackCatCadillac]

stephen wong needs to take the gum out of his mouth when he's talking to a camera.

[Austyg]

hmm. . . "hubris" is the word that comes to mind . . . but what do I know?: lawyers probably are unique individuals in many ways.

[jarvisel]

I don't know. I went to a Socratic college (St. John's College, MD) and the whole point of the school was to encourage people to respond to the work. You were mostly graded by your level of vocal response to the material. There were definitely people who spoke at length for the two hour classes and sure it was annoying, but it made the rest of the class step up. No one got anywhere by moaning and backbiting.

[alissabeard]

agreed!

[CliffX]

Wow. Lots of white people in law school. And a couple of Asians, too, which I guess is good...

[jayawesome666]

snjstroble is a gunner. hahaha.

[aussieguyandy]

Hahahaha I know ay.

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[snjstroble]

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