american propaganda 0:30...after russia ataked finland an otehr country hitler saw them as problems and also as cominst they were...Hitler always said comunist was an ilnes
This went a bit pair-shaped at the Arnhem battle. At the time neither side really considered it a victory; and the notion of the MP40 being a crucial weapon in Arnhem? Stretching it a bit far. Sten arguably more effective in urban warfare, you can actually fire it from a prone position and very difficult cover. The MP40, often left the shooter at a disadvantage, namely being a better target for snipers due to the magazine.
Waffen SS retreated on many ocasions. They weren't idiots.
Also not all fought for Socalism, some were foriegn volunteers fighting against the USSR. Some were young men drafted into the SS and some wanted to fight for an elite unit.
So don't apply a ideology to every Waffen SS soldier just to make ur show more dramatic
I have news for The History Channel, so called experts, The Tiger and King Tiger (KonigsTiger), were not lacking in speed nor mobility, nor were they desperate weapons, but evolutionary weapons of Tank warfare in WW2. The Tiger could do 25 Miles per hour or 40KM/H, it had extra wide tracks for rugged reliability in mud or cross-country combat. The 88mm gun could take out any allied tank in existence in WW2, Russian or American or British at long range distance. Please let's have some Honesty.
Tiger lacked mobility and speed? It could do 25 miles per hour and had extra wide tracks for cross country reliability, a Tiger would never get stuck in mud because of extra wide tracks. Where did they get these American Yahoo's and so called expert's my ass, the only thing their experts in is American Propaganda. The Sherman was by far the worst tank of WW2, the only thing that saved the allies ass was the sheer number's produced, 52,000 Shermans. The tiger's kill ratio was 10 to 1 vs shermn
@TheWhoaDude Had the German's produced 50,000 Tiger's in WW2, the Allies wouldn't stand a chance, because they had nothing substantial to counter it, Tiger's could take out Russian and American tank's at well over 2,000 metres or 5,000 ft. The Sherman had to get within 800-1000 metres to have a hope of knocking out the Tiger's track's, never mind killing it, no chance, American war planes could knock it out. By the time allied tanks came within 1,000 metres they would all be mostly destroyed.
@haiherosner If they did, it would be in expense of many other vital tools of warfare. I doubt that they would be able to supply and provide trained crew for all these machines. Fifty thousand Tiders would require massive supply lines, and oceans of gas and ammunition. Simple fact is that even without them Germans were often forced to go into battle with half empty tanks. Plus, Tiger was unreliable mechanically and difficult to repair. Lastly, IS tank was more than a match for it(and Tiger II)
Tiger mechanically unreliable? Are you kidding me, by 1944-45 the German's had worked out most of the kink's, and the allies would shit their pants at the very sight of a tiger and run away. What a bunch of American hoey boey propaganda. One shot from an 88mm would disintegrate a Sherman to a heap of smashed up metal.
German army, better lmg's, complicated tanks, complicated side arms, bolt action rifles...US army, MASS PRODUCE EVERYTHING, TANKS, SEMI AUTO RIFLES, MACHINE GUNS, EVERYTHING!!!!!!...that is why we won the war we made more, period.
The allies had for the most part lousy ground weaponry, the only exception being the soviets who employed excellent tanks and sniper rifles.
The western allied tanks were tin cans with plastic straws for guns, just a complete embarrassment. WWI tanks could destroy them, and sadly they were still used in the Korean War.
At sea the Germans had a huge advantage with all their U-boats for a long time but eventually with the invention of radar this advantage was snuffed.
On top of far superior numbers, the principle advantage of the allies, in particular the western allies, was the use of aircraft. The P-51 and Spitfire were the best piston powered fighters in the war, although the Germans often had superior pilots and employed the first jet powered fighters. Not to mention the western allies, America in particular's preference to aircraft carriers over battleships, which basically won them the pacific war.
@stevensw Not really. The Japanese had better aircraft and better ships, but they were fighting both China and the United States. The Americans just outproduced the Japanese.
@Noobssuckass300 The zero was crap compared to the P-51, the Japanese copied their aircraft designs from the Germans and the Americans constantly dominated the Germans in the skies even when they were outnumbered.
They had better battleships not better ships, the Americans were smarter and built submarines and aircraft carriers as battleships were helpless against them which helped them dominate the pacific theater.
China didn't put up any resistance to Japan, are you kidding?
@stevensw You're joking right? China did not put up any resistance to Japan. China had numbers. They could throw 100,000 men every day at the Japanese and the Japanese could not advance further than the coastline. The Japanese had to send over 70% of their total troops to fight in China, and use a huge chunk of their navy and airforce to blockade the Chinese coastline. China may have only won a few battles against Japan, but they tied up a huge number of Japanese troops. That's why the American
the germans still make the best weapons easily. their only competition now is the amercians. the russians have the crap ak47 based on the german weapon. and the amercian weapons are good but any german made weapon is better
@Arbiter11723 I mean Russian manufactured or designed weapons concern on quantity and lifespan while German manufactured or designed weapons concern on higher quality, but with higher costs. You know, quality of stuffs you bought are proportional to your expenditure.
Also, the MP40 was considered quite "crappy" by the Landsers. At least on the eastern front they would switch with the soviet PPSh-41 as soon as they could pick up one.
That's at least according to the memories of the head of former west-german (FRG) head of military intelligence (MAD) Komossa who served on the eastern front.
They went for the PPsh because of the ammo capacity (with the largest mag, 70, altough usually loaded with about 50 to prevent jamming). MP40 was an excellent, simple and manouverable weapon.
00:25 ...make that "they had been told". We're talkin' propaganda here!
02:10 ... when the SS got under Wehrmacht command, they became a considerable fighting force
03:24 ... that's footage from the "Reichsarbeitsdienst" not the WaffenSS
04:10 ... Market Garden was too boldy planned by Montgomery, had nothing to do with the SS or the MP40. British XXX. corps couldn't reach the scottish parachute troops in time and they got hammered - as it happens in a war!
WTF is with this show, oh the brits got destroyed here,here and here, even thought the Americans were at the same places and got kill/defeated just as much nooo,every time we mention the Americans thought it's the ss had a major defeat like wtf. Not saying the Americans dint do anything that obvious but come on they never mention a single American trooper dieing because of the ss, wich plenty did.
@REVAN2338 I don't think it was intentional, but then again the Military channel is mostly a big propaganda tv channel to try and get young guys to say "Cool!, I want to use one of those!" and go fill out their recruitment papers.
@leftyairsoft The tommy gun was a piece of shit compared to the German sub machine guns of the time, actually im sure most weapons are better then the Thompson.
@REVAN2338 Actualy brits were destroyed there not becauze nazi weapons superiority, but the fact that nazis had plans for operation market garden so they knew where british/american troops will land .
@EyeforanEye88 Not an awful lot :) British (and English before it) European strategy has always been not to allow one country to become to powerful, Britain has fought a lot of wars with that main goal in mind. in the case of WW2 Germany and Britain (ignoring ideological issues) could have been allies and more respected by the Germans then most others as Hitler considered us Saxon and kinda cousins as a result... If it was the UK, Germany and Japan vs Russia and USA we might still be in WW2 :)
@EyeforanEye88 Not an awful lot :) British (and English before it) European strategy has always been not to allow one country to become to powerful, Britain has fought a lot of wars with that main goal in mind. in the case of WW2 Germany and Britain (ignoring ideological issues) could have been allies and more respected by the Germans then most others as Hitler considered us Saxon and kinda cousins as a result... If it was the UK, Germany and Japan vs Russia and USA we might still be in WW2 :)
@EyeforanEye88 Not an awful lot :) British (and English before it) European strategy has always been not to allow one country to become to powerful, Britain has fought a lot of wars with that main goal in mind. in the case of WW2 Germany and Britain (ignoring ideological issues) could have been allies and more respected by the Germans then most others as Hitler considered us Saxon and kinda cousins as a result... If it was the UK, Germany and Japan vs Russia and USA we might still be in WW2 :)
He said no allied round ever pierced its armor, which is accurate. 17 pdr theoretically had the potential to do it, but the there are no records of the King Tigers frontal armor to be pierced. Not even once.
"The front turret was 180mm inclined at 10 degrees from the vertical. The glacis plate was a 150mm thick plate inclined at 50' ,so the actual protection given by the armor plate inclination was more than 230mm. There is no proof that the frontal armor was ever penetrated,even though the 17 Pounder, when using a special APDS ammo, could theoretically penetrate the front armor (not the glacis plate), but they were terribly inaccurate and had a tendency of ricochet off inclined armor."
I'm not sure that was an Waffen SS Panzer division. The Ltd. General had a Luger pistol but I believe that every officer, even outside the SS (in the regular Army that is) had one. Whether that story is true or not I'm not sure-or that the Germans found no army to surrender to and continued their way after the 3 guys had left-
Many regular Wehrmacht units sought to surrender to western powers by the end of the war.
ive hear there were around 25 nacinalities SS. 20000 French fought for the SS. 50000 fought along side the germans in stalinrad. The German battle ship Bismarck took 5 years to construct and only lasted 9 days in the sea. Eleyza Bazna was the costliest spy for Germany, so the solution was simple pay him with fake bills. Before world war2 New York telephone director stated that there were 22 hitlers, after the war 0.
How interesting. Particularly the point about lying flat. basically the reason my dad used the Schmeiser was that at the very front line (he was with 45 RM Commando and one of the firts across the Rhine) they were short of ammo, and there was more german stuff lying about. He had a Tommy Gun as well, and a captured Luger. He threw the Luger and the Schmeiser in a lake after the war because the government were cracking down on unauthorised weapons!
There were 7 "classic" SS divisions, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th. These units were indeed elite fighting divisions. Many of the others were created later in the war and were composed of conscripted troops entirely, small in numbers, and poorly equipped. Usually when folks refer to the Waffen SS, they are referring to the earlier, famed, Waffen SS Divisions.
The sten was pretty shit. the schmeiser was pretty good. My dad used one. he was a royal marines commando. They used whatever the could get ammo for, and there was more german ammo lying around than anything else
My dad - who is still alive - told me they used what was to hand. There was german ammo lyng around, and supplies of allied ammo were irregular. So you used what you could lay your hands on. German, whatever.
Don't be too hard on the Sten. I used to own a Canadian Mark 2. They were a crude machined copy of the MP 38 but were very cheap and easy to produce by comparison. The Mk 5 used here is accurate enough but the front sight needs adjusting. The Sten mag looks identical to a MP40 mag but is difficult to load after 10 rounds. Also the Sten allows the soldier to lie flat..BIG advantage. My Sten was produced for about $13 CAN. A very simple weapon to make and use.
No! I did not use a Sten in combat. A little before my time(I'm 45). The Sterling SMG was issued in my younger days and it's one of the best SMG's I've ever used. My uncle Franz served in the German infantry and said he was always jealous of British soldiers who could lie flat and lay down fire. The MP28 also had a side mounted mag but the problem with this is uneven weight dist'n. Later Mauser copied the Sten mainly because it was cheap and easy to manufacture.
Interesting quick chat with my dad. He was issued with a "tommy" gun and Colt 45 which used the same ammo. His unit wasnt issued with the sten which was good cos it was light, but regarded as a bit inaccurate, as per the video.
He can see your uncle's point about firing lying down, but they had great regard for the Schmeiser/MP 40 and Luger. Maybe it was a fashion thing - the other man's grass is greener?
The main distinction of the SS is that they were a political organization. The NSDAP (Nazi) party came to power then outlawed all other parties and started it's own army that only answered to the party. They did that because you can't get rid of the current army because you need their expertise but they didn't completely trust its command so they started a new army that took orders directly from the party. They were elite because they were politically connected.
The SS retreated and surrendered in hundreds of hundreds of battles... Why do they keep pretending the SS simply fought to the death, every single time right until the minute the war ended?
Because its "weaponology" and they say what every teenage special forces wannabe wants to hear. It's meant to entertain, and it goes about as deep as a tonight show interview.
The SS was "elite" as long as they could afford to be. In the later years, there were a lot of people in it that would've been killed for just been seen on the streets a few years back.
I guess it's these spotty teenage special forces wannabe's that gave me 4 thumbs down then.
Thumb it down all you want, doesn't change the fact that the SS were retreating and surrendering all through the war, from the very start and (especially) at the very end.
They were elite, but only in very few circumstances did they fight to the last or save a final bullet for themselves rather than retreat or surrender.
dude, listen 2 urself... if u were in that position, you would have retreated to. so quit being an armchair general, and find out what your talking about.
Listen to myself what? If I were in what position? What do I need to find out about?
I am simply stating that the SS were not the elite fighting machine to end all fighting machines, as this video will have you believe.
SOME SS units were a cut above regular Wehrmacht units, but since the opening days of WWII, until the very final day, the SS were retreating and surrendering.
I never said I wouldn't do the same in those situations, but this video is painting a picture of fantasy.
You make a valid point but I suggest you work on presentation. Try to avoid insulting people for making ignorant choices. Simply point out their ignorance. Saying things like "spotty teenage special forces wannabe's" only makes you sound like an ass rather than an enlightened person with a good point to add to the discussion.
the KV1 and 2 both look huge. especially the KV1 with the 152mm howitzer on it.
dominic150 2 months ago
8:50 more propaganda....german machine have never been bad on mechanic...but they are untiyl today complicated ...not like the sherman
mauricioalfredo83 3 months ago
american propaganda 0:30...after russia ataked finland an otehr country hitler saw them as problems and also as cominst they were...Hitler always said comunist was an ilnes
mauricioalfredo83 3 months ago
@mauricioalfredo83 could you write more clearer just sayin.
MrChiron12 1 month ago
the guy at 1:10 should never try speaking german again...
Ralroost 3 months ago 2
@Ralroost yeah he is pathetic lmao
Payback1991 3 months ago
GO TINY BELGIAN ROADS! :P
Hyshinara 3 months ago
The american that was shooting the sten , seems like he was missing on purpose to make the mp40 seem more accurate.
xOsGGaming 3 months ago
i'm not sure a king tiger is as heavy as russian kv2, but i think i'll judge that the day i can get inside both tanks.
rod3067 4 months ago
@rod3067 not only was the king tiger heavier, but the original tiger I was aswell.
xOrion89x 3 months ago
@xOrion89x hmmmm well that huge turret and the 12.5mm cannon help too much the kv2 looks XD
rod3067 3 months ago
@rod3067 kv2 tank = 45 tonnes. Tiger 1 = 60 tonnes, King Tiger = 72 tonnes.
dominic150 3 months ago
@dominic150 yeah i know, but kv2's gigantic turret makes it look a bit heavier.
rod3067 3 months ago
they aren't right, The sten was accurate and the Sten II (which was used in WWII more then the sten) was EXTREMELY accurate!
Sirdog33 5 months ago
This went a bit pair-shaped at the Arnhem battle. At the time neither side really considered it a victory; and the notion of the MP40 being a crucial weapon in Arnhem? Stretching it a bit far. Sten arguably more effective in urban warfare, you can actually fire it from a prone position and very difficult cover. The MP40, often left the shooter at a disadvantage, namely being a better target for snipers due to the magazine.
Gazer124 5 months ago
Gotta love the Anti-American butthurt in EVERY video.
Internet faggots.
GUNxSPECTRE 6 months ago
That's what happens when a bunch of gangsters and thugs come under the command of a homicidal megalomaniac.
mechislander 6 months ago
i've got a mate who stuck his shovel into somebody's face last year...did'nt kill the dude but made one hell of a blody mess..
metamaggot 7 months ago
Only 500 Tiger II? That is very hard, if you know, that 16 were made ready for action at the last night of the city Kassel under Nazi rule!
DerWULT 7 months ago
Waffen SS retreated on many ocasions. They weren't idiots.
Also not all fought for Socalism, some were foriegn volunteers fighting against the USSR. Some were young men drafted into the SS and some wanted to fight for an elite unit.
So don't apply a ideology to every Waffen SS soldier just to make ur show more dramatic
Foxtrot262 7 months ago
@Foxtrot262 The person who uploaded it didn't make it.
MrFromUSA 7 months ago
@MrFromUSA I know its angered toward american history shows
Foxtrot262 7 months ago
@Foxtrot262 Gotcha.
MrFromUSA 7 months ago
I hate to burst the shows bubble but the Brits at Arnhem were blasted out by Tanks not Machine pistols.
Saxe333 7 months ago
I have news for The History Channel, so called experts, The Tiger and King Tiger (KonigsTiger), were not lacking in speed nor mobility, nor were they desperate weapons, but evolutionary weapons of Tank warfare in WW2. The Tiger could do 25 Miles per hour or 40KM/H, it had extra wide tracks for rugged reliability in mud or cross-country combat. The 88mm gun could take out any allied tank in existence in WW2, Russian or American or British at long range distance. Please let's have some Honesty.
haiherosner 8 months ago
Tiger lacked mobility and speed? It could do 25 miles per hour and had extra wide tracks for cross country reliability, a Tiger would never get stuck in mud because of extra wide tracks. Where did they get these American Yahoo's and so called expert's my ass, the only thing their experts in is American Propaganda. The Sherman was by far the worst tank of WW2, the only thing that saved the allies ass was the sheer number's produced, 52,000 Shermans. The tiger's kill ratio was 10 to 1 vs shermn
haiherosner 8 months ago
@haiherosner The Military channel is mostly propaganda.
TheWhoaDude 8 months ago
@TheWhoaDude Had the German's produced 50,000 Tiger's in WW2, the Allies wouldn't stand a chance, because they had nothing substantial to counter it, Tiger's could take out Russian and American tank's at well over 2,000 metres or 5,000 ft. The Sherman had to get within 800-1000 metres to have a hope of knocking out the Tiger's track's, never mind killing it, no chance, American war planes could knock it out. By the time allied tanks came within 1,000 metres they would all be mostly destroyed.
haiherosner 8 months ago
@haiherosner Hey man, the Germans knew how to build their tanks. So I agree we all would have been in deep shit if they could have produced them.
TheWhoaDude 8 months ago
@haiherosner If they did, it would be in expense of many other vital tools of warfare. I doubt that they would be able to supply and provide trained crew for all these machines. Fifty thousand Tiders would require massive supply lines, and oceans of gas and ammunition. Simple fact is that even without them Germans were often forced to go into battle with half empty tanks. Plus, Tiger was unreliable mechanically and difficult to repair. Lastly, IS tank was more than a match for it(and Tiger II)
SinOfAugust 8 months ago
Tiger mechanically unreliable? Are you kidding me, by 1944-45 the German's had worked out most of the kink's, and the allies would shit their pants at the very sight of a tiger and run away. What a bunch of American hoey boey propaganda. One shot from an 88mm would disintegrate a Sherman to a heap of smashed up metal.
haiherosner 8 months ago
as if he only shot the target in the arm with a Sten from that range? it would be hard to miss with anything from that distance.
KLiceblastsKL 8 months ago 2
now i know why exactly this episode was not sended in germany !!!!!!!!!!!!
djgoziggaga 8 months ago
German army, better lmg's, complicated tanks, complicated side arms, bolt action rifles...US army, MASS PRODUCE EVERYTHING, TANKS, SEMI AUTO RIFLES, MACHINE GUNS, EVERYTHING!!!!!!...that is why we won the war we made more, period.
Chris0Hood 8 months ago
@Chris0Hood lol uneducated american kid with no balls.
waffenss893 8 months ago
thompson vs mp40....enough said
Alexn1067 9 months ago
where is the egg head?
kay4445 9 months ago
1.01 there's a fly on his hand :)
mrnizzi 10 months ago
holland!! 4 life
koeksoep12 11 months ago
hey my friend have that knife
vasilikosolov 11 months ago
8:34i
Is that a Panther G? Or a Panther II? Because it's obviously no Kingtiger.
ghostdivision7 11 months ago
@ghostdivision7
It's a Panther G. The Panther II never was established. (Excuse my bad english. I am german.)
Zerotonic 11 months ago
@Zerotonic
Keine problem. Ich bin Niederlander. :-)
I wasn't sure if a few prototypes of the Pather II where build, but you're right.
ghostdivision7 11 months ago
those are fallschirmjager at 9:21
drnrocks98 1 year ago
they translated it wrong
'' meine ehre heißt treue '' = '' my honor IS CALLED loyalty ''
(meine=my/mine,ehre=honor,heißt=is called,treue=loaylty)
'loyalty'' means ''loalität'',wich is another word for ''treue''.
DeathFeast16 1 year ago
they translated it wrong
'' meine ehre heißt treue '' = '' my honor IS CALLED loyalty ''
(meine=my/mine,ehre=honor,heißt=is called,treue=loaylty)
'loyalty'' means ''loalität'' wich is another word for ''treue''.
DeathFeast16 1 year ago
they translated it wrong
'' meine ehre heißt treue '' = '' my honor IS CALLED loyalty ''
(meine=my/mine,ehre=honor,heißt=is called,treue=loaylty)
'loaylty'' means ''loalität'' wich is another word for ''treue''.
DeathFeast16 1 year ago
The allies had for the most part lousy ground weaponry, the only exception being the soviets who employed excellent tanks and sniper rifles.
The western allied tanks were tin cans with plastic straws for guns, just a complete embarrassment. WWI tanks could destroy them, and sadly they were still used in the Korean War.
At sea the Germans had a huge advantage with all their U-boats for a long time but eventually with the invention of radar this advantage was snuffed.
stevensw 1 year ago
@stevensw
I think you mean Sonar. Radar is for Aircrafts.
Kerensky234 11 months ago
@Kerensky234 Except when the submarine is surfaced.
stevensw 11 months ago
On top of far superior numbers, the principle advantage of the allies, in particular the western allies, was the use of aircraft. The P-51 and Spitfire were the best piston powered fighters in the war, although the Germans often had superior pilots and employed the first jet powered fighters. Not to mention the western allies, America in particular's preference to aircraft carriers over battleships, which basically won them the pacific war.
stevensw 1 year ago
@stevensw Not really. The Japanese had better aircraft and better ships, but they were fighting both China and the United States. The Americans just outproduced the Japanese.
Noobssuckass300 10 months ago
@Noobssuckass300 The zero was crap compared to the P-51, the Japanese copied their aircraft designs from the Germans and the Americans constantly dominated the Germans in the skies even when they were outnumbered.
They had better battleships not better ships, the Americans were smarter and built submarines and aircraft carriers as battleships were helpless against them which helped them dominate the pacific theater.
China didn't put up any resistance to Japan, are you kidding?
stevensw 10 months ago
@stevensw You're joking right? China did not put up any resistance to Japan. China had numbers. They could throw 100,000 men every day at the Japanese and the Japanese could not advance further than the coastline. The Japanese had to send over 70% of their total troops to fight in China, and use a huge chunk of their navy and airforce to blockade the Chinese coastline. China may have only won a few battles against Japan, but they tied up a huge number of Japanese troops. That's why the American
Noobssuckass300 10 months ago
@stevensw government sent billions of dollars of supplies to China, to keep them in the war so they could tie up Japanese troops.
Noobssuckass300 10 months ago
@Noobssuckass300 are you a crackhead?
Alexn1067 9 months ago
@1:08
I just love it when Americans try to speak German :D
Schweinehirte 1 year ago
"mei är eis tru"? more like "meine ehre heisst treue" eh? xD and it means my honor is called loyalty
herbertusgayerus 1 year ago
oooooh, my friend also has that dagger
skordijhl 1 year ago
oh shit! i have one of those ss knives!
jollyross 1 year ago
Not a neo-nazi or into fascism but you gotta admit they had style.
MrKevstro 1 year ago
Haha, that guy had a fly on his salute hand.
Invisibrah 1 year ago
reliable weapons.......those win wars.
weldhawk1 1 year ago
ss was great but i realy liked the american airborne
oscherry509 1 year ago
dr atwater is the man, not just an academic but been there done that.
helmet2232 1 year ago
the germans still make the best weapons easily. their only competition now is the amercians. the russians have the crap ak47 based on the german weapon. and the amercian weapons are good but any german made weapon is better
ac3kata 1 year ago
@ac3kata americans are no competition, but customers. The only real competition is FN Herstal
Cougar545x39 1 year ago
@ac3kata
German Weapons = Best Quality
Russian Weapons = Best Quantity
s020015 1 year ago
@s020015 You must admit the AK-47 is uber quality, unless you mean just ww2 because if thats the case ur correct
Arbiter11723 1 year ago
@Arbiter11723 I mean Russian manufactured or designed weapons concern on quantity and lifespan while German manufactured or designed weapons concern on higher quality, but with higher costs. You know, quality of stuffs you bought are proportional to your expenditure.
s020015 1 year ago
@Arbiter11723 It seems that only God can clean away all AK-47s and RPG-7s, except dropping a WMD.
s020015 1 year ago
the facts are the majority of soldiers never even used bayonets and other close combat techniques
angler1029 1 year ago
pff 1:09 ''mein air eisst? true'' idiot. correctly '' meine Ehre heißt Treue''
Wieland1985 1 year ago
i like how the during the King Tiger segment, they showed many footage of the Panther tank. haha
Slickbullet813 1 year ago
pause at 5:32 thats actually a mp38
arm1207 1 year ago
@ 1:02 you see a fly crouching on the hand .... I wonder he knows he's on a hand of a man who would kill anywone for the fuhrer
kalemongoolmuts 1 year ago
Also, the MP40 was considered quite "crappy" by the Landsers. At least on the eastern front they would switch with the soviet PPSh-41 as soon as they could pick up one.
That's at least according to the memories of the head of former west-german (FRG) head of military intelligence (MAD) Komossa who served on the eastern front.
d0dge25 1 year ago
@d0dge25
They went for the PPsh because of the ammo capacity (with the largest mag, 70, altough usually loaded with about 50 to prevent jamming). MP40 was an excellent, simple and manouverable weapon.
aaKonda 1 year ago
00:25 ...make that "they had been told". We're talkin' propaganda here!
02:10 ... when the SS got under Wehrmacht command, they became a considerable fighting force
03:24 ... that's footage from the "Reichsarbeitsdienst" not the WaffenSS
04:10 ... Market Garden was too boldy planned by Montgomery, had nothing to do with the SS or the MP40. British XXX. corps couldn't reach the scottish parachute troops in time and they got hammered - as it happens in a war!
d0dge25 1 year ago
WTF is with this show, oh the brits got destroyed here,here and here, even thought the Americans were at the same places and got kill/defeated just as much nooo,every time we mention the Americans thought it's the ss had a major defeat like wtf. Not saying the Americans dint do anything that obvious but come on they never mention a single American trooper dieing because of the ss, wich plenty did.
REVAN2338 1 year ago 18
@REVAN2338 I don't think it was intentional, but then again the Military channel is mostly a big propaganda tv channel to try and get young guys to say "Cool!, I want to use one of those!" and go fill out their recruitment papers.
TheWhoaDude 8 months ago
@TheWhoaDude We got it here in canada, oh you are more then right. I just felt that it needed to be pointed out.
REVAN2338 8 months ago
@REVAN2338 we had tommy guns making us badasses so whine about that :)
leftyairsoft 7 months ago in playlist fuck you
@leftyairsoft The tommy gun was a piece of shit compared to the German sub machine guns of the time, actually im sure most weapons are better then the Thompson.
REVAN2338 7 months ago
@REVAN2338 Actualy brits were destroyed there not becauze nazi weapons superiority, but the fact that nazis had plans for operation market garden so they knew where british/american troops will land .
zumbazumba1 7 months ago
@REVAN2338
it's an american show....duh
samadamas 6 months ago
@REVAN2338 well the yanks just have the feel of inadequate if they fight with tommys
YorckgoesChelsea 6 months ago
@REVAN2338
You Brits should have been allied with Germans in WW2, - not against them.. and this would not have happened.
I still don't understand what the UK got out of this war.
EyeforanEye88 5 months ago
@EyeforanEye88 Not an awful lot :) British (and English before it) European strategy has always been not to allow one country to become to powerful, Britain has fought a lot of wars with that main goal in mind. in the case of WW2 Germany and Britain (ignoring ideological issues) could have been allies and more respected by the Germans then most others as Hitler considered us Saxon and kinda cousins as a result... If it was the UK, Germany and Japan vs Russia and USA we might still be in WW2 :)
Delogros 5 months ago
@EyeforanEye88 Not an awful lot :) British (and English before it) European strategy has always been not to allow one country to become to powerful, Britain has fought a lot of wars with that main goal in mind. in the case of WW2 Germany and Britain (ignoring ideological issues) could have been allies and more respected by the Germans then most others as Hitler considered us Saxon and kinda cousins as a result... If it was the UK, Germany and Japan vs Russia and USA we might still be in WW2 :)
Delogros 5 months ago
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@EyeforanEye88 Not an awful lot :) British (and English before it) European strategy has always been not to allow one country to become to powerful, Britain has fought a lot of wars with that main goal in mind. in the case of WW2 Germany and Britain (ignoring ideological issues) could have been allies and more respected by the Germans then most others as Hitler considered us Saxon and kinda cousins as a result... If it was the UK, Germany and Japan vs Russia and USA we might still be in WW2 :)
Delogros 5 months ago
this is very funny "documentary"...
...they speaking about king tiger and showing panther
VooChildDoo 1 year ago
this is very funny "documentary"...
...they speaking about king tiger and showing panther
VooChildDoo 1 year ago
The officer with the iron cross at 9:01 is another german tiger ace named Otto Carius.
Nebel20 1 year ago
and the 17pounder could pearce the tiger 2s front armour..
how could you make a documentary if you dont even know this stuff
punkd76 1 year ago
@punkd76
He said no allied round ever pierced its armor, which is accurate. 17 pdr theoretically had the potential to do it, but the there are no records of the King Tigers frontal armor to be pierced. Not even once.
aaKonda 1 year ago
@punkd76
"The front turret was 180mm inclined at 10 degrees from the vertical. The glacis plate was a 150mm thick plate inclined at 50' ,so the actual protection given by the armor plate inclination was more than 230mm. There is no proof that the frontal armor was ever penetrated,even though the 17 Pounder, when using a special APDS ammo, could theoretically penetrate the front armor (not the glacis plate), but they were terribly inaccurate and had a tendency of ricochet off inclined armor."
aaKonda 1 year ago
also lol at the way he fires the sten then says its less accurate
tbh
it was the tanks in arnhem
mp40 didnt do shit
brtish troops beat the germans all over the place when they had the mp40
it was the tanks made the difference
punkd76 1 year ago
wtf lol "weaponologist" is not a word
punkd76 1 year ago
yeyah, but if you know the story behind the Sten, then maybe you would be abl;e to judge it better
Mr912Lancer 1 year ago
7:58 - too bad that's a Panther....
stiglistanbul 1 year ago
1:02 a insect on his hand xD #LOL
Norguy77 1 year ago
@TheBigfootX
I'm not sure that was an Waffen SS Panzer division. The Ltd. General had a Luger pistol but I believe that every officer, even outside the SS (in the regular Army that is) had one. Whether that story is true or not I'm not sure-or that the Germans found no army to surrender to and continued their way after the 3 guys had left-
Many regular Wehrmacht units sought to surrender to western powers by the end of the war.
seltjorn 1 year ago
Please remember Hitler was not his real name
mobilechief 1 year ago
@mobilechief Yes it was what the hell FAIL
johnthesencond 1 year ago
@TheMortstar Glad were friends now hu?
mobilechief 1 year ago
ive hear there were around 25 nacinalities SS. 20000 French fought for the SS. 50000 fought along side the germans in stalinrad. The German battle ship Bismarck took 5 years to construct and only lasted 9 days in the sea. Eleyza Bazna was the costliest spy for Germany, so the solution was simple pay him with fake bills. Before world war2 New York telephone director stated that there were 22 hitlers, after the war 0.
MPLNtodopormexico 1 year ago
imagen if they never atacked russia they would of probably gotten further in the campain.
INCGerardo97 1 year ago
@TheBigfootX there is no recorded, documentated event such as 15,000 SS men surrendering to 3 men in a jeep. That old dude is bullshitting.
k4n31985 1 year ago
Meine Ehre heisst Treue
my honor is loyalty
muchlickabolacka 2 years ago
Its "My honor is loyalty"
garrvict 2 years ago 30
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@garrvict Its " Meine Ehre heißt Treue"
sazhawk 9 months ago
@garrvict and the second was :" to give the death, to receive the death"
mathiehesse 8 months ago
It's actually My honor is true.
nelson0110 2 years ago
@nelson0110
nope thats a false friend true=wahr
treue=loyalty
tresckow 1 year ago
I hate it when they miss pronounce the Name and then translated it wronly!
the German fraze '' Mein Ehre Heisst true'' means ''Loyalty is my Honor'' and not what the other guy say. Geez. dont they know any European!?
ThePanzerWarMachine 2 years ago
How interesting. Particularly the point about lying flat. basically the reason my dad used the Schmeiser was that at the very front line (he was with 45 RM Commando and one of the firts across the Rhine) they were short of ammo, and there was more german stuff lying about. He had a Tommy Gun as well, and a captured Luger. He threw the Luger and the Schmeiser in a lake after the war because the government were cracking down on unauthorised weapons!
partyhat3 2 years ago
There were 7 "classic" SS divisions, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 9th, 10th, and 12th. These units were indeed elite fighting divisions. Many of the others were created later in the war and were composed of conscripted troops entirely, small in numbers, and poorly equipped. Usually when folks refer to the Waffen SS, they are referring to the earlier, famed, Waffen SS Divisions.
dd11856 2 years ago
The sten was pretty shit. the schmeiser was pretty good. My dad used one. he was a royal marines commando. They used whatever the could get ammo for, and there was more german ammo lying around than anything else
partyhat3 2 years ago
I thought the Brits also had access to the German 9x19mm round the MP-38/40 used?
EmperorTiger 2 years ago
i was also under the impression that the STEn also used the 9x19mm round?
EmperorTiger 2 years ago 2
My dad - who is still alive - told me they used what was to hand. There was german ammo lyng around, and supplies of allied ammo were irregular. So you used what you could lay your hands on. German, whatever.
partyhat3 2 years ago
ok i believe you
EmperorTiger 2 years ago
Don't be too hard on the Sten. I used to own a Canadian Mark 2. They were a crude machined copy of the MP 38 but were very cheap and easy to produce by comparison. The Mk 5 used here is accurate enough but the front sight needs adjusting. The Sten mag looks identical to a MP40 mag but is difficult to load after 10 rounds. Also the Sten allows the soldier to lie flat..BIG advantage. My Sten was produced for about $13 CAN. A very simple weapon to make and use.
arnbo88 2 years ago
I stand corrected! Take your point about lying flat, I can see that. It seems to have done a job, particuarly in CQB.
Did you use yours in combat?
P3
partyhat3 2 years ago
No! I did not use a Sten in combat. A little before my time(I'm 45). The Sterling SMG was issued in my younger days and it's one of the best SMG's I've ever used. My uncle Franz served in the German infantry and said he was always jealous of British soldiers who could lie flat and lay down fire. The MP28 also had a side mounted mag but the problem with this is uneven weight dist'n. Later Mauser copied the Sten mainly because it was cheap and easy to manufacture.
arnbo88 2 years ago
Hi Arnbo
Interesting quick chat with my dad. He was issued with a "tommy" gun and Colt 45 which used the same ammo. His unit wasnt issued with the sten which was good cos it was light, but regarded as a bit inaccurate, as per the video.
He can see your uncle's point about firing lying down, but they had great regard for the Schmeiser/MP 40 and Luger. Maybe it was a fashion thing - the other man's grass is greener?
Best regards
PHat
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WarJunkieAndExpert 2 years ago
I say not
America didn't even have a SF back then
y512516 2 years ago
you cant say one on one ! people are different ! a ss would fight 2 death and american would give up !
joshuahimself 2 years ago
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The main distinction of the SS is that they were a political organization. The NSDAP (Nazi) party came to power then outlawed all other parties and started it's own army that only answered to the party. They did that because you can't get rid of the current army because you need their expertise but they didn't completely trust its command so they started a new army that took orders directly from the party. They were elite because they were politically connected.
zcw100 2 years ago
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The SS retreated and surrendered in hundreds of hundreds of battles... Why do they keep pretending the SS simply fought to the death, every single time right until the minute the war ended?
DayveIsh 2 years ago
Because its "weaponology" and they say what every teenage special forces wannabe wants to hear. It's meant to entertain, and it goes about as deep as a tonight show interview.
The SS was "elite" as long as they could afford to be. In the later years, there were a lot of people in it that would've been killed for just been seen on the streets a few years back.
BaVoBa 2 years ago 2
I guess it's these spotty teenage special forces wannabe's that gave me 4 thumbs down then.
Thumb it down all you want, doesn't change the fact that the SS were retreating and surrendering all through the war, from the very start and (especially) at the very end.
They were elite, but only in very few circumstances did they fight to the last or save a final bullet for themselves rather than retreat or surrender.
DayveIsh 2 years ago
dude, listen 2 urself... if u were in that position, you would have retreated to. so quit being an armchair general, and find out what your talking about.
muffins247 2 years ago
Listen to myself what? If I were in what position? What do I need to find out about?
I am simply stating that the SS were not the elite fighting machine to end all fighting machines, as this video will have you believe.
SOME SS units were a cut above regular Wehrmacht units, but since the opening days of WWII, until the very final day, the SS were retreating and surrendering.
I never said I wouldn't do the same in those situations, but this video is painting a picture of fantasy.
DayveIsh 2 years ago
You make a valid point but I suggest you work on presentation. Try to avoid insulting people for making ignorant choices. Simply point out their ignorance. Saying things like "spotty teenage special forces wannabe's" only makes you sound like an ass rather than an enlightened person with a good point to add to the discussion.
Stritchers 2 years ago
The men sitting on the school bench are Norwegians grenadiers. Its from a SS academy in Austria.
Look close at 0:17 and you will see the Norwegian lion on their right color.
Ialocin85 2 years ago 28
nice, I didn't notice that before :D
bunsinh456 2 years ago 8
@Ialocin85 wow didnt spot that
extremedealer 1 year ago