Not to mention that mandatory arbitration (what he calls getting the lawyers out of the place) is the worst thing that could happen to you. It strips you from the right to go to court and the rules are very different in arbitration, and not at your advantage!! This is what they call «Tort reform» and it is very very dangerous.
Free healthcare did not work anywhere? You have to be blind and dishonest to think that. It is sad because Ron Paul is right on a lot of issues, especially the wars.
@darkobarto Serious question, do you have any knowledge of economics, scarcity, supply, demand, innovation, and a historical perspective on healthcare, real understanding of those topics, not what 'feels' right? It's easy to say I want everyone to have affordable healthcare therefore government should provide it. Or that everyone is entitled to own a house therefore the government should facilitates that, however, the laws of unintended consequences and incentives restrict that.
@fiscalconservative76 capitalism in the sense i think you purport is akin to communism in that they both appear sound in theory, but are not pragmatic in application. thee end. now run along and watch bill oreilly
Higher prices are also the product of a deliberate strategy, hashed out in our political bazaars between health insurers, drug companies, and hospital assoc., etc., and state and federal legislators, always to keep the consumer's bargaining power fragmented and relatively weak vis à vis the supply side of health care. In short, we have a system that exploits the sick rather than takes care of people. The solution to this is creating a system that works for people not health insurers, etc.
On this issue, Ron Paul sacrifices pragmatism for ideological purity. In any market where consumers have little to no bargaining power, providers will charge what the market will bear. Thus, prices keep going up because providers can get away with charging them. A medicare-for-all system provides the best way to insure everyone and keep prices in check. Ron Paul apparently doesn't understand the power of collective bargaining.
@blastsummit If you think I'm over exaggerating the waiting room death, look it up it was in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada at the Health Sciences Center. Why do you believe Canadians continuously go to America and pay out of pocket for healthcare? I will give you a hint, cause socialized medicine dosent work it makes the rich, richer and benefits big pharmaceutical and insurance companies.
@ssj3jarrod your uninformed opinion is not where i'll look for my information regarding the canadian health care system. and you're a complete moron. private helath insurers in the states, along with the drug companies, benefit from their system. but, you're from winnipeg? hahahah that says enough about you
Well I never claimed to be the smartest, I was merely giving everyone a honest observation of socialized medicine. It is a giant tax waste, it takes thousands of dollars yearly from people who just make it by as it is. There is little accountability for the expenditures and they always want more...
it's soooo obvious that paul is for the rich. all of his ideas are beneficial for the wealthy. he expects churches and other free clinics to step in to treat those w/o insurance. how long would that system take to come into effect? he cites his time in the early 60s as proof that these free health clinics were enough to ensure those w/o coverage got medical treatment. well, paul, those clinics are largely gone now. essentially, he doesn't give a shit about the working poor america the beautiful?
@blastsummit Your a 'tad blind, imho. Less government, less management of your life, and less overall regulation *does* benefit the rich. But it also benefits the poorer classes, equally if not greatly so. What Ron Paul is speaking is *EQUALITY* in the market, all across the board to cut corruption, to cut abuse, and to cut the overall unfairness of the US market.
@spykegda when has this system that you're supporting worked? give me an example. not just what you believe will happen if paul's system were to come into existence. ron is an ideologue. you haven't cited anything but your skewed opinion.
@blastsummit America pre-ww2, we were a badass with our massive industry and all. Japan, currently(market regulation=nada). China, currently(not the best example 'cause of the commies). Vietnam, currently(//repeat).
Poland has one of the smallest national governments in the world, and its one of the fastest growing EU economies, DESPITE the recession/economistsdontknowwhatthefuckisgoingon.
'Course there's always other factors, but there you go. It works.
@blastsummit Never said I did. However, I will note that I have you given you a clear and founded example to refute your argument and you have failed to address it in a (semi)respectable and dignified manor in which I have shown you.
Instead of being so entrenched in your believes, may I recommend the proverbial concept of "opening your eyes" and reading/learning about & perhaps even coming to accept the views that differ from your own instead of this mindless hate rhetoric?
@blastsummit Generalization from the exact examples, on the very thing you requested me to give specific examples there of and hinter have done? "Facts" don't have a bias. If anyone is having a "uniformly biased view" it's you who is being completely, totally and ultimately unwilling to compromise in any way shape and or form their opinion and/or belief and are in fact acting more like a school child whos been defeated in intellectual debate then any "proper" person. So "Run along and stfu"
A free market system would be effective as long as it was permitted. Free clinics in the 60s went away when the government began giving away "free" care via medicare/medicaid. Those caused prices to drive up, hurting everyone that needs health care, as many services are tied to what the government pays, not what the service actually costs, as well as extensive regulatory headache in medicine. Between 50-60% of medical costs are due to government regulations and not service.
@MrTurdFurgeson source? and you're an idiot if you think it's just the government increases prices. if that were the case, you would be paying less of your gdp on health care than countries like canada, france, or germany. did it ever occur to you that republicunts are in the pockets of insurance and drug companies?
Source? Medicare itself. It spends $7,200 USD per year on recipients - almost 50% more than private insurance. Its not just insurance and drug companies. Its the regulatory nature of American health care. Government compliance costs for health care providers increase cost of care by 50%.
Please remember that America has lots of other socialized things like education - our government controls it, and we (still) spend more money on education than anywhere else.
@MrTurdFurgeson again, you're distorting numbers. you spend more/person than ANY other country, and you still have 15 % uninsured. and guess what? medicare is going to cost more b/c they are elderly! 20% of the population uses 80 percent of the money. and your 7200/person includes insurance and medicaid. and insurance is skyrocketing. doubling since 2001 before obamacare. i dont dount the american gov is effed up. congress is owned big business etc. congress can legally inside trade. god bless u
Medicare costs are still higher when you compare people within the same age brackets (e.g. 65 and older among both medicare and privately insured people).
My $7,200 includes medicare only. Its based on total allocation of federal funds to Medicare divided by the number of people receiving benefits last year. Private insurance was about $4,900 for the same year.
Our health care system is broken. Nationalizing it means taking a broke system and giving it to everyone.
@MrTurdFurgeson what it comes down to is ideology. you don't believe people who can't afford insurance should have coverage. and i find your numbers to be dubious. citation? and insurers will reject a lot of seniors. they make money by taking in premiums, not paying for care. they find all kinds of questionable tricks to deny coverage, leaving the government holding the bag. that you need to research for yourself.
I am a Canadian I have seen first hand the awful effects that socialistic government brings. We have healthcare that is more expensive and overly abused by people who'd be better serviced by local clinics than consuming hospital resources, the nurses are so over worked the quality of our care is almost negligible. We pay 38-47% of wages to taxes 30% of which goes to healthcare, we've had people die in the waiting rooms. To say government healthcare works is extremely naive, Americans don't even
@ssj3jarrod hyperbole. i'm sorry to be the one to tell you that you are NOT as smart as you think you are. the sooner you realize this axiom, the better your life will be. your welcome.
@ssj3jarrod idiot, clinics and hospitals are vastly private, and we pay less/person on h. care than the yanks. and i'm sure you're right that some people may die in an emergency room; which country can claim they haven't? and your tax rate is complete bullshit fabrication. we spend less on h. care as a percaentage of our gdp than do the yanks. you ignorant fuck!
@ssj3jarrod I'm Canadian too, and the Americans spend more % of GDP on health care, while 45 000 Americans die each year because they can't afford it (Harvard Medical School numbers).
@bonheurbrun We have the worst of socialism and crony-capitalism. You can't even buy insurance from another state and different states mandate different things. there are patent laws greatly inhibiting competition in medicine as well as licensing cartels artificially reducing supply of professional keeping prices high as well as the backwards idea that insurance is now pre-paid care. Employers get credits and discounts while the employee does not for paying their own way. It's a mess alright.
Universal heatlth care, public education and social welfare. As a German I had always took these things as granted. This changed when I heard about the situation in America the first time. I'm unsatisfied about a lot of things going wrong here and I know that Germany is far away from being perfect, BUT I'm glad we don't deny poor people the same medical treatment as people who can afford it, only because rich bastards like Ron Paul don't want to contribute their fair share to society.
UK healthcare system is horrible! I lived in Swindon, england for 3 years and my wife was pregnant and was having complications. We sat in the emergency room for 5 hrs b4 they brought here to the back and another hour b4 the doctor saw her by then it was too late and we lost the baby. So england and canada can keep their social health care! Vote Ron Paul 2012 bc i know what govt run health care works and it sux!
no matter what you say about ron paul's positions at least he literally talks like a normal person would during his speeches and interviews, at least for me it makes it easier to understand him.
He has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget. He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership. He has never voted to raise congressional pay. He has never taken a government-paid junket. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch. He voted against the Patriot Act. He voted against regulating the Internet. He voted against the Iraq war. ★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★ ▃▃▃▃RON PAUL▃▃▃▃ 2012 ▃▃▃▃ ★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★
I honestly don't know how I feel about health care. I thought universal health care would be best, but then I went to Canada. I broke my wrist, and I swear I sat in the ER for over an hour before I got attention. I mean, maybe that was just one situation at one hospital and doesn't mean much, but it's really made me think twice.
@beccasmizzle No that wasn't just Canada. I seriously injured my ankle and passed out in the street in Germany and I wasn't given any treatment. Just an IV. No doctor even came to see me. 16 hours later, my squad leader came to the krankenhaus and took me to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center and I received the "Tri-Care" treatment which surpasses National Healthcare by a long shot but sucks compared to private healthcare...
@beccasmizzle hunny if you only had to wait an hour at the ER that is nothing. i have always had to wait at least 3 hours before being seen at an emergency room.
we need to spread the word to all the people blinded by the media. Alot of the older generation does not know how to find the truth on the internet therfor they watch the news. We all know the news is bias and opposes ron paul. we need to WAKE up America. its our generations time to shine. they almost censored our internet. what will be next. vote ron paul and help spread the word! If you belive in freedom and our rights then repost this message!
@MrVillamike i guess it's cause some people don't like the idea of needing to pay for other people's health care, maybe if it somehow didn't cost a lot of money people would be more willing to.
@kevboslice112 It adds very little to people's tax bill and it is the humanitarian thing to do.
America is the only developed country in the world that won't help others in need when it comes to their own health service yet Americans don't seem to mind giving 3 billion dollars a year to Israel which could be better spent in America.
@MrVillamike Ron Paul is for getting rid of ALL foreign aid... also, charity is the answer, not a large bureaucracy.... I hate to break it to you, but health care is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT!
@KushDreamsProd That's where we differ..... in my country(England) we are humanitarians, we believe that everyone has a right to health care regardless of race,sex,financial disposition etc.
In America, land of the almighty dollar, it is money that dictates whether you live or die, you are unabashed capitalists who would sell your gran for a dollar yet you all love to bash Canada's, Britain's France's Australia's,New Zealand's health care systems...why? maybe because it embarrasses America.
@MrVillamike If you noticed, the developed nations are in trouble financially as well. It doesn't help that we subsidize their defense as well and Americans (citizens) are very charitable. The government giving money to Israel is force, not charity, we have almost no say in that.
medical care is a scarce resource and needs a pricing structure to balance. When its communal, there is insane incentive to abuse the system. The US has the worst of both socialism and choice. too many restrictions.
@MrVillamike Yeah I agree with the foreign aid our government generously steals from us and gives to their friends for 'favors' in particular propping up governments friendly to us. You can't criticize Israel in this country without being labeled anti-Semitic or people bringing up the holocaust like its our responsibility to end all human suffering around the world. Its akin to being called a racist because you disagree with the current president, so much for objectivism.
@MrVillamike We do, but don't tell me your healthcare is free, you pay taxes for it. Also why should the government make it necessary for you to buy healthcare? what if I don't want healthcare?
@MrVillamike If I was part of the one percent I would not comment on a video on youtube...second I do donate, but I feel giving my money to the government to buy everyone health insurance is stupid, I can give my own money in the sense of charity which people already do, even with the income tax. If the government didn't take peoples income tax the people would have more money, and I am sure people will donate. I am all for donation. But giving the government money to donate is bs
@freedomwriter908 That's the difference between our countries, our laws ensure health care for all, and hospitals will not go through your pockets to make sure you have enough money to pay for your care.
It's what sets us apart as humanitarians but apparently it is something you just don't get do you?
@MrVillamike we want it available to everyone, but we don't want the government entitling it to us and let the free markets work. Medicine is a service, not a right.
If your system was so superior, why is your own government talking about privatizing care as a way of easing the fiscal burden NHS imposes on your populace?
You still get a bill when you leave a hospital in England. Its called your tax dollars. You face significant tax burden that is causing a lot of economic stagnation, and left unchecked, your fate is not dissimilar from Greece, Spain or Italy.
@MrTurdFurgeson There talking of privitising because there a bunch of neo-liberals, there the Tory party and privitisation is in their DNA. Their funded by the rich, by the corporations and as such cater soley to their interests. And the NHS is a huge cash cow waiting to be exploited by them (think of the profits), so the Tory party are merely a front for these private interests. Its got nothing to do with "easing the fiscal burden", thats a load of BS/lies (private health is much more pricey).
According to your own newspapers, they are privatizing because NHS has to be balanced each year, and is constantly in debt by between $5 and $10 billion a year.
Private health care isn't more expensive. If its truly free-market private health care, it is usually a lot cheaper. Of course, in America, we do not have free-market health care, so its very expensive.
@MrTurdFurgeson Its got nothing to do with "easing the fiscal burden", and everything to do with making the already super-rich even richer..the people be damned. And i'd rather my tax went to healthcare so that i know in my time of need i'll be treated, and not left to die because i can't afford it. And this stagnation we face in England has nothing to do with the NHS, its the result of neoliberal capitalism,the result of the elite screwing over society at any cost in the name of bigger profits.
The thing about social programs is that unless you are making a good amount of money, you aren't paying for your own health care - someone else is. That is the way social welfare works. If you make under $50,000 a year, you get many more benefits than you pay in. If you make over $50,000 a year, you get far less benefits than what you pay in.
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In the current system, BIG government, while things might seem to be workign right now, they aren't. The system is bankrupt and as a result the number of poor are getting bigger and bigger every day.
But when you realize that you'd get to keep a TON of your money, then it's not so crazy.
Having said that, Paul does have to explain how those with no money would get care. His current logic is that his full set of policies combined would create a prosperous thriving society / economy in which we'd have the money to take care of the poor.
But Paul's ideas all sound insane if you think that you'll still be paying the same in taxes as you do now. It sounds like 'wait a second, i keep paying the same and get nothing?'
@justaname2223 plus he is a Doctor who works in the healthcare industry, he knows his stuff, and is more qualified to speak about this subject than any other politician that doesn't know anything about healthcare
I remember when i thought socialism was a good idea then i stopped doing copious amounts of drugs and started researching economics and politics as opposed to being force fed my opinions by msnbc amd CNN, and no i don't watch fox news, i'm not an idiot
GO RON! indeed, although I disagree with his healthcare views. I am "European" and am a "Godless Socialist" but I do like his views on foreign policy.
I think if we get the chance to pull the troops out of the middle east, all the money that we are spending on the wars can be moved to healthcare! I would rather be paying for helping sustain good living conditions then paying to go to war and let our troops have mental problems, medical issues, or die! my mom has m.s. and has medicare and without it she would be paying $5,000 a month for her shots alone! living on a disability check of $300 a month? She isnt the only one! Would this fix it?
Paul will never win the nomination for president. He is pointless in his views and nothing makes sense. Obama killed osama! Republicans are just jealous, that's all. Obama 2012 will win and the Republicans know this this.
"No body went without medical care ... the churches and voluntary groups looked after the people." ... I like Ron Paul for his independent thinking, but I can not believe poor and disabled people would receive a decent level of medical treatment from voluntary/charity and church organisations. We had that in England before the NHS and the poor had terrible health. This is a really bad idea, especially with modern medical costs.
@nickclarkuk In his scenario more people would be able to afford health care. There are atleast 59 million Americans without health insurance because the price is so high. I've been living in England for the past 7 years and the situation is extremely different in the US. People's taxes are going towards Medicare/Medicaid for other people even when they can't afford health insurance themselves but they don't qualify. NHS everyone can get treatment.
@Yetze Without the Federal Government intervention and if healthcare was left into the free markets,medical care will not be expensive and it will be affordable to everyone including the poor people.
@Yetze BUT with health insurance with the managed care programs involved in it,it artificially drives up the demand for medical care which its raises the cost at an exorbitant levels.
Yes that's in theory. My biggest concern with these reforms is that he will not be able alter the entire system. This is not just about abolishing medicare, the ENTIRE market in medicine has to be reformed in order for prices to become lower. I believe that the US healthcare problems can be solved in 2 ways, the socialist way (which many European countries have) and the free market way (A model that has rarely been fully realised). I yet have to see it all happen.
@Yetze Why not?If Ron Paul becomes President,he will be able to alter the system.Didn't President Richard Nixon alter the system on medical care? With regards to the socialist way,that is only going to be tax increase on people.The Obamacare made a lot of people angry because when this is implemented in 2014,taxpayers have to pay BOTH their health insurance and others' health insurance as stipulated in it. Now,people have to pay not two health insurance instead of one.
That doesnt have to be. Most European nations have higher taxes indeed, but people spend less money because the government provides many services (cost efficiently). This means that many sectors which are run by the market in the US, are ran by a single provider, the state, in the 'socialist' nation. A government does not try to make profit or compete with other providers thus prices can be kept low. Contrary to Ron Pauls theory, the social healthcare theory has proven to work.
But if you look at the US today, many departments of the government are far from cost efficient, thats why I think Ron Pauls idea might just be the trick the US needs. But I would never support Ron Paul if he would represent a party in for example the Netherlands, where a semi "socialist" welfare system exists and is working quite well. So cultural and historic differences between the US and Europe might explain why something does work out in EU and not in the US.
@PaperComedy The one thing they don't like to tell you about, is we have something like 20,000 contractors (mercenaries) still in Iraq. I still like Obama alright, but he can't stand toe to toe with Dr. Paul here.
What happens if a stupid guy 'decides' to spend all his money and leaves none to spend on healthcare and falls seriously ill, should we leave him to die?
Hmm you mean what does he do right?, no way we leave him to die :)
Society can give this guy credit and he can pay back later for his stupidity or he can sell his car :) and golf clubs etc.
It's stupid to pay taxes and not have a choice in healthcare, spend half of what you save on the taxes Ron will save you to buy a healthcare plan simple
RON PAUL IS THE DUMBEST PIECE OF OVERHYPED SHIT IN THE HISTORY OF POLITICS. PERIOD. HE'S AN ISOLATIONIST PRO-GUN PRO-MEDICAL INDUSTRY. ANTI-IMMIGRANT HOLIER THAN THOU WHACKJOB.
@erik4727 He also thinks education is only for the elite, what a piece of shit! He wants to turn everyone into a busy worker bee. It's funny when anyone tries to defend this monumental jackass when he's more of the same! It's even funnier when people care about anything other than his push to legalize drugs. What a fucking whackjob.
I really hope hes right about this. Many doctors actually agree with Dr. Paul, but if Obamacare is abolished, people can only rely on insurance companies for coverage, and thats.....not good. If he were to actively encourage charitable treatment, then its ok. But there arent many options now...
It really is a shame that such a great man for peace and sanity is still brain washed by his orthodox libertarianism. France, Norway, even scapegoat Cuba have delivered much better health care than the wealtyist country(empire)in the world: my USA. They are tax based systems and even the best in the world, France's health care system is about half the cost of USA to deliver. They are not only the best in delivering health care to all but they have technology on par with USA
Man this health care debate can frustrate at times. On one hand you have excellent points made by Dr. Paul that free markets can deliver better care because of competition but then you have others saying universal health care can be constitutional and should be used since it says "provide for the general welfare of the United States" in the Constitution but we don't have the money for universal health care. Both seem like good points.
I have no problem using out-of pocket funds for Rx visits, it will only make for better doctoring. Good medical care is only as good as the provider administoring it.
@blackryder65 he is right, his philosophical principled position and beliefs on government have been proven right throughout history. Freedom works! God Bless The Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence!
@wmarcus1203 Agree. Just look at Ron Paul's campaign manager who died because he had $400,000 dollars in medical debt and no health insurance. He should have done a better job going around to churches and other charities for help and maybe he'd be alive today. What self-respecting charity would not help this guy pay his bills.
I like Ron Paul, but saying social medicine doesn't work is not true. The top rated medical systems in the world are social systems. France, Italy, San Marino (etc).
@thephysicslab What makes them better? I think the wealthiest Americans in this country have better healthcare then any one citizen of those nations you named. Even their rich. I know they have it better than Canada. The problem is, we have a small amount of people who can get that kind of care. Paul and I think there is a way to make that number rise from, lets just say, 10% of Americans to 50 maybe 60% of Americans. Then we have a better system. Socialized Medicine makes healthcare mediocre.
@TheSportsman1 Of course. In any for profit system better care is given to those with more money to spend on it. Of your %50 percent, would the bottom 20% survive a financial battle with cancer? What about a reoccurring brain tumor? These are real issues in my peer group right now. And the other %50 percent? Why should they receive sub standard care? I simply love Ron Paul, but i do not agree with his views on public health care. Although i think it's better than what you have now in the US.
How is their economy? Are you sure there isnt a "healthcare bubble" that could explode and pop at any time? Problem with social systems is that they run out of money. So they tax more, taking away more money then they need more money and so on and so fourth. The government doesnt tax the rich now, nor will they ever. Who they tax is those who earn 200,000 a year rather then those who take in millions and or billions.
@thephysicslab You are comparing it to the US corporatist system. Ron Paul wants to destroy the corporatist healthcare system in the USA which is run by corrupt political entities and cartels.
@god0fgod I'm not comparing it to the US system. Ron Paul states that social medicine does not work. I was pointing out that social medicine is working well in other countries. My belief if that we all need social medicine, but it needs to be run well. Our system in Canada is exploited by everyone, doctors, unions, staff, and patients, we are all to blame for it's gross inefficiency. What we need is a system that is run like a for profit system, but is non profit. :^) I know, not possible...
@thephysicslab If you had a free market system do you think hospitals would refuse care to people? That individuals wouldn't be charitable? You must have a government to force charity (If that isn't an oxymoron)?
@thephysicslab right the un says that an the un is bias towards them. Us medicine is not the greatest right now and that is thanks to medicare and medicaid which are bankrupt and have no competition.And thanks to obamacare costs are going up many companies are raising childrens coverage or droping them not to mention the unconstitutional mandate and fee for health care which violates the 10th
In short what Ron Paul is proposing is that we count on the individual decency of the physicians or Churches... Is that sustainable?
France or Canada prove that universal healthcare WORKS if it's well thought-out and no one there has any complaints. And it costs LESS money in those countries than in the US.
How can corporations that only care about making money be ever expected to "regulate themselves"?
Stop invading every country on earth and you will be able to finance your healthcare!
@sugardaddy815 The profit motive by itself IS a free market regulator. The reason you are typing on a computer is because of the free market.
You are a fucking idiot. The U.S. doesn't have a private healthcare system, the government spends more money on healthcare than all other countries. A free market would force prices to drop and quality to improve. That's how businesses work. They try to sell you the best good or service at the lowest price.
wow this bloke is a affront to all sound reason why not just have state sponsored health care like the rest of the world? taxes could be used to subsidize health care cost that would be sensible way to get coverage for all citizens.
@igoodnessi311 no it isnt whats bankrupting britian right now is immigrants being placed on public assistance without proper review or regulation too much money is being given to people entering the country also inflation within the E.U. global market from the wars with iraq and afghanistan war cost lots of money to finance.
@doctorw2 So socialized healthcare to immigrants IS contributing to the bankruptcy... Socialized ANYTHING doesn't work. You can't take things from one group and give them to another, it's immoral and unfair and has to many inherent complications that will come back and bite you. It only serves the medical industry and the insurance industry and fails the people. Socialism failed Germany, Russia and everywhere else it was tried.
"You can't take things from one group and give them to another, it's immoral and unfair and has to many inherent complications that will come back and bite you."
- You've just asserted it is immoral but you didnt provide an explanation as to why. Redistribution of wealth is what we use to maintain stable economies, throughout history whenever we havnt done it aristocracies have formed, just look at the start of the industrial revolution.
@doctorw2 Do you realize medicare alone last year cost $450,000,000,000 450 billion ? For everyone it would cost trillions, plus the other 3.4 trillion dollars that the budget encompasses, we need to find cuts not more spending!
@anonymousguitarguy then the americans should tax it to create revenue americans put taxes on the wrong things and spend money where its not needed to be spent.
@itachi705 that would not kill jobs what kills jobs is this tax breaks for out sourcing corporations get tax breaks for creating jobs outside the country and that is why jobs go overseas if you tax corporations for jobs overseas but, give them a tax break for jobs created within the country you will see a rise in hiring and unemployment drasticly drop.
@doctorw2 You can't tax businesses overseas... that's why they GO there... less taxes will bring jobs home. Texas has seen so much job growth because it doesn't have state income taxes or unions.
@igoodnessi311 thats not true your president tried to tax out sourcing and you know what happened the republican party unamiously opposed it you know why? the republican party recieves huge campaign contributions from finacial institutions and corporations who they guard the intrests of.
@doctorw2 If you think the Democrats and the Republicans are two separate, opposing parties then you're sadly misled. Obama won an election because he said he'd get us out of Iraq... yet here we are, involved in even more wars. The two parties are just part of one big hoax we call the 'two party system.' Lobbyists control %90 of our federal officials with the exceptions of Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Justin Amash and a few others.
@igoodnessi311 Totally right; I voted for Obama, but I have been thoroughly unimpressed. While most of my life, I have sided Democratic, I would not hesitate to vote for Ron Paul.
@igoodnessi311 Do you think Obama said we'd get out of Iraq overnight. No. He said we'd get out by the end of 2011, and that's what's happening. Get yo facts straight!
@ColdAsHe11@ColdAsHe11 Really? Because it looks like he pulled out all the combat brigades out of Iraq more than a year ago. Watch the news you fucking idiot.
@PaperComedy Hey douchebag, do some real research and stop believing everything you read. There are still brigades there, just under different names. And the link you sent me in a private message was dead, learn how to use the Internet, retard.
@juffan are you serious? we're going right next door, to Iran. and we still have God knows how many troops STILL in Iraq at all the military bases. and that's not just Iraq. that's everyfuckingwhere. not to mention the big fuck up of entering Afghanistan. "we are out of Iraq though" big fucking whup.
@doctorw2 If you think the Democrats and the Republicans are two separate, opposing parties then you're sadly mistaken. Obama won an election because he said he'd get us out of Iraq... yet here we are, involved in even more wars. The two parties are just part of one big hoax we call the 'two party system.' Lobbyists control %90 of our federal officials with the exceptions of Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Justin Amash and a few others.
@igoodnessi311 If you believe what Ron Paul says you are the ignorant one Universal Health Care works very well in many countries but if one day we happen to get it we the people have to make sure that we don't have these crooks in power these Repugnant Republicans are lying right in your face and many people believe them out of selfishness having no compassion for other human beings.
talking in circles,,,this is his HUGE weak spot.......It's my tax money, I want it to go towards health care for other who can't afford it..I don't care the reason they need it..I want to help people,,,free market HAS NOT HELPED ANYTHING....It is why the 1% makes more then the 95% of people combined....
@morsea30 That may be your moral position that you wish to use a portion of your tax dollars to pay for medical care but there are those who do not wish to pay into medicare/medicaid for their own personal reasons. I just don't think every American should be forced to pay for something that some may not believe in. I respect your compassion and in Ron Paul's ideal America people like you would donate to local hospitals, foundations, churches, etc. to provide care and take out the gov to reduce $
Not to mention that mandatory arbitration (what he calls getting the lawyers out of the place) is the worst thing that could happen to you. It strips you from the right to go to court and the rules are very different in arbitration, and not at your advantage!! This is what they call «Tort reform» and it is very very dangerous.
bonheurbrun 6 days ago
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Free healthcare did not work anywhere? You have to be blind and dishonest to think that. It is sad because Ron Paul is right on a lot of issues, especially the wars.
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bonheurbrun 6 days ago
Only an idiot wouldn't want universal healthcare, fuck ron paul.
darkobarto 1 week ago
@darkobarto fuck you
trueconservatie33 2 days ago
@darkobarto Serious question, do you have any knowledge of economics, scarcity, supply, demand, innovation, and a historical perspective on healthcare, real understanding of those topics, not what 'feels' right? It's easy to say I want everyone to have affordable healthcare therefore government should provide it. Or that everyone is entitled to own a house therefore the government should facilitates that, however, the laws of unintended consequences and incentives restrict that.
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2411Hellokitty 3 weeks ago
The anti liberty clowns will always play the compassionate card.
fiscalconservative76 3 weeks ago
@blastsummit
To wish death on someone you know nothing about is heartless.
fiscalconservative76 3 weeks ago
@fiscalconservative76 thank you
blastsummit 3 weeks ago
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fiscalconservative76 3 weeks ago
@blastsummit
Actually I am correct.
Socialism/Crony Capitalism help the wealthy elite.
Socialism in particular because they can use it to destroy the middle class and make the poor poorer and keep them there with welfare.
Free Market Capitalism is about the people.
Freedom is popular like Ron Paul tells it.
Obama 100% bought and paid for by wall street and Goldman Sachs and yet he comes out and supports occupy wall street?
Ask yourself why?
fiscalconservative76 3 weeks ago
@fiscalconservative76 capitalism in the sense i think you purport is akin to communism in that they both appear sound in theory, but are not pragmatic in application. thee end. now run along and watch bill oreilly
blastsummit 3 weeks ago
@blastsummit
Not true and we are not going to agree.
This conversation is finished.
fiscalconservative76 3 weeks ago
Higher prices are also the product of a deliberate strategy, hashed out in our political bazaars between health insurers, drug companies, and hospital assoc., etc., and state and federal legislators, always to keep the consumer's bargaining power fragmented and relatively weak vis à vis the supply side of health care. In short, we have a system that exploits the sick rather than takes care of people. The solution to this is creating a system that works for people not health insurers, etc.
urbanverificationist 4 weeks ago
On this issue, Ron Paul sacrifices pragmatism for ideological purity. In any market where consumers have little to no bargaining power, providers will charge what the market will bear. Thus, prices keep going up because providers can get away with charging them. A medicare-for-all system provides the best way to insure everyone and keep prices in check. Ron Paul apparently doesn't understand the power of collective bargaining.
urbanverificationist 4 weeks ago
@blastsummit If you think I'm over exaggerating the waiting room death, look it up it was in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada at the Health Sciences Center. Why do you believe Canadians continuously go to America and pay out of pocket for healthcare? I will give you a hint, cause socialized medicine dosent work it makes the rich, richer and benefits big pharmaceutical and insurance companies.
ssj3jarrod 4 weeks ago
@ssj3jarrod your uninformed opinion is not where i'll look for my information regarding the canadian health care system. and you're a complete moron. private helath insurers in the states, along with the drug companies, benefit from their system. but, you're from winnipeg? hahahah that says enough about you
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
Well I never claimed to be the smartest, I was merely giving everyone a honest observation of socialized medicine. It is a giant tax waste, it takes thousands of dollars yearly from people who just make it by as it is. There is little accountability for the expenditures and they always want more...
ssj3jarrod 4 weeks ago
it's soooo obvious that paul is for the rich. all of his ideas are beneficial for the wealthy. he expects churches and other free clinics to step in to treat those w/o insurance. how long would that system take to come into effect? he cites his time in the early 60s as proof that these free health clinics were enough to ensure those w/o coverage got medical treatment. well, paul, those clinics are largely gone now. essentially, he doesn't give a shit about the working poor america the beautiful?
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@blastsummit Your a 'tad blind, imho. Less government, less management of your life, and less overall regulation *does* benefit the rich. But it also benefits the poorer classes, equally if not greatly so. What Ron Paul is speaking is *EQUALITY* in the market, all across the board to cut corruption, to cut abuse, and to cut the overall unfairness of the US market.
spykegda 4 weeks ago
@spykegda when has this system that you're supporting worked? give me an example. not just what you believe will happen if paul's system were to come into existence. ron is an ideologue. you haven't cited anything but your skewed opinion.
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@blastsummit America pre-ww2, we were a badass with our massive industry and all. Japan, currently(market regulation=nada). China, currently(not the best example 'cause of the commies). Vietnam, currently(//repeat).
Poland has one of the smallest national governments in the world, and its one of the fastest growing EU economies, DESPITE the recession/economistsdontknowwhatthefuckisgoingon.
'Course there's always other factors, but there you go. It works.
spykegda 3 weeks ago
@spykegda and you do. pffft!!!! hahaha
blastsummit 3 weeks ago
@blastsummit Never said I did. However, I will note that I have you given you a clear and founded example to refute your argument and you have failed to address it in a (semi)respectable and dignified manor in which I have shown you.
Instead of being so entrenched in your believes, may I recommend the proverbial concept of "opening your eyes" and reading/learning about & perhaps even coming to accept the views that differ from your own instead of this mindless hate rhetoric?
spykegda 3 weeks ago
@spykegda those were generalizations based on your uniformed biased view. now run along and stfu
blastsummit 3 weeks ago
@blastsummit Generalization from the exact examples, on the very thing you requested me to give specific examples there of and hinter have done? "Facts" don't have a bias. If anyone is having a "uniformly biased view" it's you who is being completely, totally and ultimately unwilling to compromise in any way shape and or form their opinion and/or belief and are in fact acting more like a school child whos been defeated in intellectual debate then any "proper" person. So "Run along and stfu"
spykegda 3 weeks ago
@spykegda i have higher standards as to what constitute 'facts.'
blastsummit 3 weeks ago
@blastsummit
A free market system would be effective as long as it was permitted. Free clinics in the 60s went away when the government began giving away "free" care via medicare/medicaid. Those caused prices to drive up, hurting everyone that needs health care, as many services are tied to what the government pays, not what the service actually costs, as well as extensive regulatory headache in medicine. Between 50-60% of medical costs are due to government regulations and not service.
MrTurdFurgeson 4 weeks ago
@MrTurdFurgeson source? and you're an idiot if you think it's just the government increases prices. if that were the case, you would be paying less of your gdp on health care than countries like canada, france, or germany. did it ever occur to you that republicunts are in the pockets of insurance and drug companies?
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@blastsummit
Source? Medicare itself. It spends $7,200 USD per year on recipients - almost 50% more than private insurance. Its not just insurance and drug companies. Its the regulatory nature of American health care. Government compliance costs for health care providers increase cost of care by 50%.
Please remember that America has lots of other socialized things like education - our government controls it, and we (still) spend more money on education than anywhere else.
MrTurdFurgeson 4 weeks ago
@MrTurdFurgeson again, you're distorting numbers. you spend more/person than ANY other country, and you still have 15 % uninsured. and guess what? medicare is going to cost more b/c they are elderly! 20% of the population uses 80 percent of the money. and your 7200/person includes insurance and medicaid. and insurance is skyrocketing. doubling since 2001 before obamacare. i dont dount the american gov is effed up. congress is owned big business etc. congress can legally inside trade. god bless u
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@blastsummit
Medicare costs are still higher when you compare people within the same age brackets (e.g. 65 and older among both medicare and privately insured people).
My $7,200 includes medicare only. Its based on total allocation of federal funds to Medicare divided by the number of people receiving benefits last year. Private insurance was about $4,900 for the same year.
Our health care system is broken. Nationalizing it means taking a broke system and giving it to everyone.
MrTurdFurgeson 4 weeks ago
@MrTurdFurgeson what it comes down to is ideology. you don't believe people who can't afford insurance should have coverage. and i find your numbers to be dubious. citation? and insurers will reject a lot of seniors. they make money by taking in premiums, not paying for care. they find all kinds of questionable tricks to deny coverage, leaving the government holding the bag. that you need to research for yourself.
blastsummit 3 weeks ago
Americans don't even have a free economy, so to say there an example of free market healthcare is grossly naive.
ssj3jarrod 4 weeks ago
I am a Canadian I have seen first hand the awful effects that socialistic government brings. We have healthcare that is more expensive and overly abused by people who'd be better serviced by local clinics than consuming hospital resources, the nurses are so over worked the quality of our care is almost negligible. We pay 38-47% of wages to taxes 30% of which goes to healthcare, we've had people die in the waiting rooms. To say government healthcare works is extremely naive, Americans don't even
ssj3jarrod 4 weeks ago 8
@ssj3jarrod hyperbole. i'm sorry to be the one to tell you that you are NOT as smart as you think you are. the sooner you realize this axiom, the better your life will be. your welcome.
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@ssj3jarrod idiot, clinics and hospitals are vastly private, and we pay less/person on h. care than the yanks. and i'm sure you're right that some people may die in an emergency room; which country can claim they haven't? and your tax rate is complete bullshit fabrication. we spend less on h. care as a percaentage of our gdp than do the yanks. you ignorant fuck!
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@ssj3jarrod I'm Canadian too, and the Americans spend more % of GDP on health care, while 45 000 Americans die each year because they can't afford it (Harvard Medical School numbers).
bonheurbrun 6 days ago
@bonheurbrun We have the worst of socialism and crony-capitalism. You can't even buy insurance from another state and different states mandate different things. there are patent laws greatly inhibiting competition in medicine as well as licensing cartels artificially reducing supply of professional keeping prices high as well as the backwards idea that insurance is now pre-paid care. Employers get credits and discounts while the employee does not for paying their own way. It's a mess alright.
pbfrank13 18 hours ago
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b..b..b..but michael moore told me Canada and Cuba have awesome health care! lol :-)
TheCapitalistdog 4 days ago
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Universal heatlth care, public education and social welfare. As a German I had always took these things as granted. This changed when I heard about the situation in America the first time. I'm unsatisfied about a lot of things going wrong here and I know that Germany is far away from being perfect, BUT I'm glad we don't deny poor people the same medical treatment as people who can afford it, only because rich bastards like Ron Paul don't want to contribute their fair share to society.
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sceptiquele 1 month ago
UK healthcare system is horrible! I lived in Swindon, england for 3 years and my wife was pregnant and was having complications. We sat in the emergency room for 5 hrs b4 they brought here to the back and another hour b4 the doctor saw her by then it was too late and we lost the baby. So england and canada can keep their social health care! Vote Ron Paul 2012 bc i know what govt run health care works and it sux!
Oahspe1 1 month ago
no matter what you say about ron paul's positions at least he literally talks like a normal person would during his speeches and interviews, at least for me it makes it easier to understand him.
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Freshoffdahoodbro 1 month ago
I honestly don't know how I feel about health care. I thought universal health care would be best, but then I went to Canada. I broke my wrist, and I swear I sat in the ER for over an hour before I got attention. I mean, maybe that was just one situation at one hospital and doesn't mean much, but it's really made me think twice.
beccasmizzle 1 month ago
@beccasmizzle No that wasn't just Canada. I seriously injured my ankle and passed out in the street in Germany and I wasn't given any treatment. Just an IV. No doctor even came to see me. 16 hours later, my squad leader came to the krankenhaus and took me to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center and I received the "Tri-Care" treatment which surpasses National Healthcare by a long shot but sucks compared to private healthcare...
dedicatedkiller11b 1 month ago
@beccasmizzle hunny if you only had to wait an hour at the ER that is nothing. i have always had to wait at least 3 hours before being seen at an emergency room.
CoolKellly 1 month ago
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we need to spread the word to all the people blinded by the media. Alot of the older generation does not know how to find the truth on the internet therfor they watch the news. We all know the news is bias and opposes ron paul. we need to WAKE up America. its our generations time to shine. they almost censored our internet. what will be next. vote ron paul and help spread the word! If you belive in freedom and our rights then repost this message!
jkern2c 1 month ago
I wouldn't wish American healthcare on anyone.
In the UK if you are ill you get taken care off and no bill when you leave hospital.
In America the only ones that have anything to lose are the medical insurance company's.
I can't get my head around why Americans wouldn't want health care for everyone.
MrVillamike 1 month ago
@MrVillamike i guess it's cause some people don't like the idea of needing to pay for other people's health care, maybe if it somehow didn't cost a lot of money people would be more willing to.
kevboslice112 1 month ago
@kevboslice112 It adds very little to people's tax bill and it is the humanitarian thing to do.
America is the only developed country in the world that won't help others in need when it comes to their own health service yet Americans don't seem to mind giving 3 billion dollars a year to Israel which could be better spent in America.
As they say....charity begins at home.
MrVillamike 1 month ago 7
@MrVillamike Ron Paul is for getting rid of ALL foreign aid... also, charity is the answer, not a large bureaucracy.... I hate to break it to you, but health care is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT!
KushDreamsProd 3 weeks ago
@KushDreamsProd That's where we differ..... in my country(England) we are humanitarians, we believe that everyone has a right to health care regardless of race,sex,financial disposition etc.
In America, land of the almighty dollar, it is money that dictates whether you live or die, you are unabashed capitalists who would sell your gran for a dollar yet you all love to bash Canada's, Britain's France's Australia's,New Zealand's health care systems...why? maybe because it embarrasses America.
MrVillamike 2 weeks ago
@MrVillamike If you noticed, the developed nations are in trouble financially as well. It doesn't help that we subsidize their defense as well and Americans (citizens) are very charitable. The government giving money to Israel is force, not charity, we have almost no say in that.
medical care is a scarce resource and needs a pricing structure to balance. When its communal, there is insane incentive to abuse the system. The US has the worst of both socialism and choice. too many restrictions.
pbfrank13 1 day ago
@pbfrank13 Well maybe America needs to grow a pair and tell Israel to f**k off.
i'm sure there are a lot of Americans that could do with some of the $3 billion a year that America generously gives away.
MrVillamike 21 hours ago
@MrVillamike Yeah I agree with the foreign aid our government generously steals from us and gives to their friends for 'favors' in particular propping up governments friendly to us. You can't criticize Israel in this country without being labeled anti-Semitic or people bringing up the holocaust like its our responsibility to end all human suffering around the world. Its akin to being called a racist because you disagree with the current president, so much for objectivism.
pbfrank13 18 hours ago
@MrVillamike We do, but don't tell me your healthcare is free, you pay taxes for it. Also why should the government make it necessary for you to buy healthcare? what if I don't want healthcare?
freedomwriter908 1 month ago
@freedomwriter908 You must be in the 1% then.
not all people can afford private health care so it helps them.
It's a pity that there are a lot of Americans who are less than charitable towards their fellow man.
MrVillamike 1 month ago
@MrVillamike If I was part of the one percent I would not comment on a video on youtube...second I do donate, but I feel giving my money to the government to buy everyone health insurance is stupid, I can give my own money in the sense of charity which people already do, even with the income tax. If the government didn't take peoples income tax the people would have more money, and I am sure people will donate. I am all for donation. But giving the government money to donate is bs
freedomwriter908 1 month ago
@freedomwriter908 That's the difference between our countries, our laws ensure health care for all, and hospitals will not go through your pockets to make sure you have enough money to pay for your care.
It's what sets us apart as humanitarians but apparently it is something you just don't get do you?
MrVillamike 1 month ago
@MrVillamike we want it available to everyone, but we don't want the government entitling it to us and let the free markets work. Medicine is a service, not a right.
BrianJensen 4 weeks ago
@MrVillamike
If your system was so superior, why is your own government talking about privatizing care as a way of easing the fiscal burden NHS imposes on your populace?
You still get a bill when you leave a hospital in England. Its called your tax dollars. You face significant tax burden that is causing a lot of economic stagnation, and left unchecked, your fate is not dissimilar from Greece, Spain or Italy.
MrTurdFurgeson 4 weeks ago
@MrTurdFurgeson hahahaha where is your evidence? you sound like a fox news anchor inciting fear n anger by using ignoran t comments.
blastsummit 4 weeks ago
@MrTurdFurgeson There talking of privitising because there a bunch of neo-liberals, there the Tory party and privitisation is in their DNA. Their funded by the rich, by the corporations and as such cater soley to their interests. And the NHS is a huge cash cow waiting to be exploited by them (think of the profits), so the Tory party are merely a front for these private interests. Its got nothing to do with "easing the fiscal burden", thats a load of BS/lies (private health is much more pricey).
TheDevineBeing 3 weeks ago
@TheDevineBeing
According to your own newspapers, they are privatizing because NHS has to be balanced each year, and is constantly in debt by between $5 and $10 billion a year.
Private health care isn't more expensive. If its truly free-market private health care, it is usually a lot cheaper. Of course, in America, we do not have free-market health care, so its very expensive.
MrTurdFurgeson 3 weeks ago
@MrTurdFurgeson Its got nothing to do with "easing the fiscal burden", and everything to do with making the already super-rich even richer..the people be damned. And i'd rather my tax went to healthcare so that i know in my time of need i'll be treated, and not left to die because i can't afford it. And this stagnation we face in England has nothing to do with the NHS, its the result of neoliberal capitalism,the result of the elite screwing over society at any cost in the name of bigger profits.
TheDevineBeing 3 weeks ago
@TheDevineBeing
The thing about social programs is that unless you are making a good amount of money, you aren't paying for your own health care - someone else is. That is the way social welfare works. If you make under $50,000 a year, you get many more benefits than you pay in. If you make over $50,000 a year, you get far less benefits than what you pay in.
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jboles633 1 month ago
In the current system, BIG government, while things might seem to be workign right now, they aren't. The system is bankrupt and as a result the number of poor are getting bigger and bigger every day.
Ork0bronson 1 month ago
But when you realize that you'd get to keep a TON of your money, then it's not so crazy.
Having said that, Paul does have to explain how those with no money would get care. His current logic is that his full set of policies combined would create a prosperous thriving society / economy in which we'd have the money to take care of the poor.
Ork0bronson 1 month ago
But Paul's ideas all sound insane if you think that you'll still be paying the same in taxes as you do now. It sounds like 'wait a second, i keep paying the same and get nothing?'
Ork0bronson 1 month ago
Ron Paul is a qualified healthcare professional, he knows his stuff, he knows what he is talking about
He is more qualified than the rest of the bureaucrat politicians bought, paid for and in the pocket of the pharmaceutical drug lobbies
Ron Paul has been taking on these companies ! and will never sell out to them, and will reduce costs in medicine and healthcare
Vaccine and drug giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) has been fined Over Illegal Vaccine Experiments Killing 14 Babies - its true go look !
Communist2012 1 month ago
Paul has called for passage of tax relief bills to reduce health care costs for families
He would support a tax credit for senior citizens who need to pay for costly prescription drugs
He would also allow them to import drugs from other countries at lower prices
He has called for health savings accounts that allow for tax-free savings to be used to pay for prescriptions
Paul believes that the more government interferes in medicine, the higher prices rise and the less efficient care becomes
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People need the same health care, as the people thay elect ? price rate and rules.....
stringlov 1 month ago 8
this is a big reason why i disagree with him. i love RON PAUL but i completely disagree with this
justaname2223 1 month ago
@justaname2223 give him a chance, let him try it out. Then you can always vote for another Obama care again if you dont agree with him the next time.
Communist2012 1 month ago
@justaname2223 plus he is a Doctor who works in the healthcare industry, he knows his stuff, and is more qualified to speak about this subject than any other politician that doesn't know anything about healthcare
Communist2012 1 month ago
I remember when i thought socialism was a good idea then i stopped doing copious amounts of drugs and started researching economics and politics as opposed to being force fed my opinions by msnbc amd CNN, and no i don't watch fox news, i'm not an idiot
XTheOverseer 2 months ago
GO RON! indeed, although I disagree with his healthcare views. I am "European" and am a "Godless Socialist" but I do like his views on foreign policy.
LordDrew112 2 months ago
I think if we get the chance to pull the troops out of the middle east, all the money that we are spending on the wars can be moved to healthcare! I would rather be paying for helping sustain good living conditions then paying to go to war and let our troops have mental problems, medical issues, or die! my mom has m.s. and has medicare and without it she would be paying $5,000 a month for her shots alone! living on a disability check of $300 a month? She isnt the only one! Would this fix it?
realmetalmachine 2 months ago
Economists laugh at Ron Paul
maozebong100 2 months ago
@maozebong100 They also said the housing bubble was a myth and we need a pretend alien invasion to save the economy lol.
YaHuWaHservant 2 months ago
AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE> "FREE" HEALTHCARE
anonymousguitarguy 2 months ago
@anonymousguitarguy except that 'free healthcare' isnt actually free ... indirectly
Communist2012 1 month ago
Paul will never win the nomination for president. He is pointless in his views and nothing makes sense. Obama killed osama! Republicans are just jealous, that's all. Obama 2012 will win and the Republicans know this this.
77raymondt 2 months ago
@77raymondt get educated that's all I'm going to say. Stop letting people take your rights like Obama has just done same as Bush.
FreeAmericaRP2012 2 months ago
"No body went without medical care ... the churches and voluntary groups looked after the people." ... I like Ron Paul for his independent thinking, but I can not believe poor and disabled people would receive a decent level of medical treatment from voluntary/charity and church organisations. We had that in England before the NHS and the poor had terrible health. This is a really bad idea, especially with modern medical costs.
nickclarkuk 2 months ago
@nickclarkuk In his scenario more people would be able to afford health care. There are atleast 59 million Americans without health insurance because the price is so high. I've been living in England for the past 7 years and the situation is extremely different in the US. People's taxes are going towards Medicare/Medicaid for other people even when they can't afford health insurance themselves but they don't qualify. NHS everyone can get treatment.
kickstartmyheart013 2 months ago
I doubt the poor will benefit from this.
Yetze 2 months ago
@Yetze Without the Federal Government intervention and if healthcare was left into the free markets,medical care will not be expensive and it will be affordable to everyone including the poor people.
RichHartford74 2 months ago
@Yetze BUT with health insurance with the managed care programs involved in it,it artificially drives up the demand for medical care which its raises the cost at an exorbitant levels.
RichHartford74 2 months ago in playlist Health Care: The Free Market Solution
@RichHartford74
Yes that's in theory. My biggest concern with these reforms is that he will not be able alter the entire system. This is not just about abolishing medicare, the ENTIRE market in medicine has to be reformed in order for prices to become lower. I believe that the US healthcare problems can be solved in 2 ways, the socialist way (which many European countries have) and the free market way (A model that has rarely been fully realised). I yet have to see it all happen.
Yetze 2 months ago
@Yetze Why not?If Ron Paul becomes President,he will be able to alter the system.Didn't President Richard Nixon alter the system on medical care? With regards to the socialist way,that is only going to be tax increase on people.The Obamacare made a lot of people angry because when this is implemented in 2014,taxpayers have to pay BOTH their health insurance and others' health insurance as stipulated in it. Now,people have to pay not two health insurance instead of one.
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@RichHartford74
That doesnt have to be. Most European nations have higher taxes indeed, but people spend less money because the government provides many services (cost efficiently). This means that many sectors which are run by the market in the US, are ran by a single provider, the state, in the 'socialist' nation. A government does not try to make profit or compete with other providers thus prices can be kept low. Contrary to Ron Pauls theory, the social healthcare theory has proven to work.
Yetze 2 months ago
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But if you look at the US today, many departments of the government are far from cost efficient, thats why I think Ron Pauls idea might just be the trick the US needs. But I would never support Ron Paul if he would represent a party in for example the Netherlands, where a semi "socialist" welfare system exists and is working quite well. So cultural and historic differences between the US and Europe might explain why something does work out in EU and not in the US.
Yetze 2 months ago
@PaperComedy The one thing they don't like to tell you about, is we have something like 20,000 contractors (mercenaries) still in Iraq. I still like Obama alright, but he can't stand toe to toe with Dr. Paul here.
ModerateMadGenius 3 months ago
What happens if a stupid guy 'decides' to spend all his money and leaves none to spend on healthcare and falls seriously ill, should we leave him to die?
Hmm you mean what does he do right?, no way we leave him to die :)
Society can give this guy credit and he can pay back later for his stupidity or he can sell his car :) and golf clubs etc.
It's stupid to pay taxes and not have a choice in healthcare, spend half of what you save on the taxes Ron will save you to buy a healthcare plan simple
ashwadhwani 3 months ago
Only a total dipshit would disagree with this man. GO RON!
PennyStockTrader 3 months ago
RON PAUL IS THE DUMBEST PIECE OF OVERHYPED SHIT IN THE HISTORY OF POLITICS. PERIOD. HE'S AN ISOLATIONIST PRO-GUN PRO-MEDICAL INDUSTRY. ANTI-IMMIGRANT HOLIER THAN THOU WHACKJOB.
Vote Kucinich 2012
erik4727 3 months ago
@erik4727 He also thinks education is only for the elite, what a piece of shit! He wants to turn everyone into a busy worker bee. It's funny when anyone tries to defend this monumental jackass when he's more of the same! It's even funnier when people care about anything other than his push to legalize drugs. What a fucking whackjob.
Vote Kucinich 2012
erik4727 3 months ago
Thank you, Dr. Paul, for telling the Truth.
ThePinkfloyd51 3 months ago
I really hope hes right about this. Many doctors actually agree with Dr. Paul, but if Obamacare is abolished, people can only rely on insurance companies for coverage, and thats.....not good. If he were to actively encourage charitable treatment, then its ok. But there arent many options now...
yankydoodle83 3 months ago
It really is a shame that such a great man for peace and sanity is still brain washed by his orthodox libertarianism. France, Norway, even scapegoat Cuba have delivered much better health care than the wealtyist country(empire)in the world: my USA. They are tax based systems and even the best in the world, France's health care system is about half the cost of USA to deliver. They are not only the best in delivering health care to all but they have technology on par with USA
emotionalinvalid 3 months ago
I disagree with some of his conclusions.
Strangely enough I still trust him far more than 95% of the others.
Last time I voted Nader [still might] - this time I might vote Paul.
Why can't the choice be between two good guys for once?
bobbygnosis 3 months ago
I shouldn't have to go to a church to beg for my healthcare.
iversonmatthew 3 months ago
Man this health care debate can frustrate at times. On one hand you have excellent points made by Dr. Paul that free markets can deliver better care because of competition but then you have others saying universal health care can be constitutional and should be used since it says "provide for the general welfare of the United States" in the Constitution but we don't have the money for universal health care. Both seem like good points.
elr456 4 months ago
I have no problem using out-of pocket funds for Rx visits, it will only make for better doctoring. Good medical care is only as good as the provider administoring it.
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bd1965 4 months ago
Whatever it is, lets hope Ron Paul is right.
blackryder65 4 months ago
@blackryder65 he is right, his philosophical principled position and beliefs on government have been proven right throughout history. Freedom works! God Bless The Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence!
wmarcus1203 4 months ago
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@wmarcus1203 Agree. Just look at Ron Paul's campaign manager who died because he had $400,000 dollars in medical debt and no health insurance. He should have done a better job going around to churches and other charities for help and maybe he'd be alive today. What self-respecting charity would not help this guy pay his bills.
teapartyxpress 3 months ago
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Ron what the fuck are you talking about you have free health care that i pay with my taxes!!
raulhotpapi 5 months ago
I like Ron Paul, but saying social medicine doesn't work is not true. The top rated medical systems in the world are social systems. France, Italy, San Marino (etc).
thephysicslab 5 months ago
@thephysicslab What makes them better? I think the wealthiest Americans in this country have better healthcare then any one citizen of those nations you named. Even their rich. I know they have it better than Canada. The problem is, we have a small amount of people who can get that kind of care. Paul and I think there is a way to make that number rise from, lets just say, 10% of Americans to 50 maybe 60% of Americans. Then we have a better system. Socialized Medicine makes healthcare mediocre.
TheSportsman1 4 months ago
@TheSportsman1 Of course. In any for profit system better care is given to those with more money to spend on it. Of your %50 percent, would the bottom 20% survive a financial battle with cancer? What about a reoccurring brain tumor? These are real issues in my peer group right now. And the other %50 percent? Why should they receive sub standard care? I simply love Ron Paul, but i do not agree with his views on public health care. Although i think it's better than what you have now in the US.
thephysicslab 4 months ago
How is their economy? Are you sure there isnt a "healthcare bubble" that could explode and pop at any time? Problem with social systems is that they run out of money. So they tax more, taking away more money then they need more money and so on and so fourth. The government doesnt tax the rich now, nor will they ever. Who they tax is those who earn 200,000 a year rather then those who take in millions and or billions.
scienceatheism 4 months ago
@thephysicslab You are comparing it to the US corporatist system. Ron Paul wants to destroy the corporatist healthcare system in the USA which is run by corrupt political entities and cartels.
god0fgod 4 months ago
@god0fgod I'm not comparing it to the US system. Ron Paul states that social medicine does not work. I was pointing out that social medicine is working well in other countries. My belief if that we all need social medicine, but it needs to be run well. Our system in Canada is exploited by everyone, doctors, unions, staff, and patients, we are all to blame for it's gross inefficiency. What we need is a system that is run like a for profit system, but is non profit. :^) I know, not possible...
thephysicslab 4 months ago
@thephysicslab If you had a free market system do you think hospitals would refuse care to people? That individuals wouldn't be charitable? You must have a government to force charity (If that isn't an oxymoron)?
god0fgod 4 months ago
@thephysicslab right the un says that an the un is bias towards them. Us medicine is not the greatest right now and that is thanks to medicare and medicaid which are bankrupt and have no competition.And thanks to obamacare costs are going up many companies are raising childrens coverage or droping them not to mention the unconstitutional mandate and fee for health care which violates the 10th
trevorthemonkeey 3 months ago
@thephysicslab
yeah they also have some of the highest tax rates in the world
bottle2lip 1 month ago
In short what Ron Paul is proposing is that we count on the individual decency of the physicians or Churches... Is that sustainable?
France or Canada prove that universal healthcare WORKS if it's well thought-out and no one there has any complaints. And it costs LESS money in those countries than in the US.
How can corporations that only care about making money be ever expected to "regulate themselves"?
Stop invading every country on earth and you will be able to finance your healthcare!
sugardaddy815 5 months ago
@sugardaddy815 The profit motive by itself IS a free market regulator. The reason you are typing on a computer is because of the free market.
You are a fucking idiot. The U.S. doesn't have a private healthcare system, the government spends more money on healthcare than all other countries. A free market would force prices to drop and quality to improve. That's how businesses work. They try to sell you the best good or service at the lowest price.
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sugardaddy815 5 months ago
wow this bloke is a affront to all sound reason why not just have state sponsored health care like the rest of the world? taxes could be used to subsidize health care cost that would be sensible way to get coverage for all citizens.
doctorw2 5 months ago
@doctorw2 Cause that idea is bankrupting England right now...
igoodnessi311 5 months ago
@igoodnessi311 no it isnt whats bankrupting britian right now is immigrants being placed on public assistance without proper review or regulation too much money is being given to people entering the country also inflation within the E.U. global market from the wars with iraq and afghanistan war cost lots of money to finance.
doctorw2 5 months ago
@doctorw2 So socialized healthcare to immigrants IS contributing to the bankruptcy... Socialized ANYTHING doesn't work. You can't take things from one group and give them to another, it's immoral and unfair and has to many inherent complications that will come back and bite you. It only serves the medical industry and the insurance industry and fails the people. Socialism failed Germany, Russia and everywhere else it was tried.
igoodnessi311 5 months ago
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@igoodnessi311
"Socialized ANYTHING doesn't work"
- then why is it that 'socialized' healthcare correlates with beter healthcare and healthcare standards on virtually every test ever conducted?
types10000 5 months ago
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"You can't take things from one group and give them to another, it's immoral and unfair and has to many inherent complications that will come back and bite you."
- You've just asserted it is immoral but you didnt provide an explanation as to why. Redistribution of wealth is what we use to maintain stable economies, throughout history whenever we havnt done it aristocracies have formed, just look at the start of the industrial revolution.
types10000 5 months ago
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@igoodnessi311
"Socialism failed Germany, Russia and everywhere else it was tried."
- sure pure socialism doesnt work, but can you pick a single non thirdworld nation where unregulated capitalism works?
BALANCE.
types10000 5 months ago
@doctorw2 Do you realize medicare alone last year cost $450,000,000,000 450 billion ? For everyone it would cost trillions, plus the other 3.4 trillion dollars that the budget encompasses, we need to find cuts not more spending!
anonymousguitarguy 5 months ago
@anonymousguitarguy then the americans should tax it to create revenue americans put taxes on the wrong things and spend money where its not needed to be spent.
doctorw2 5 months ago
@doctorw2 LOL tax it? And kill jobs? Are you fucking stupid?
itachi705 5 months ago
@itachi705 that would not kill jobs what kills jobs is this tax breaks for out sourcing corporations get tax breaks for creating jobs outside the country and that is why jobs go overseas if you tax corporations for jobs overseas but, give them a tax break for jobs created within the country you will see a rise in hiring and unemployment drasticly drop.
doctorw2 5 months ago
@doctorw2 You can't tax businesses overseas... that's why they GO there... less taxes will bring jobs home. Texas has seen so much job growth because it doesn't have state income taxes or unions.
igoodnessi311 5 months ago
@igoodnessi311 thats not true your president tried to tax out sourcing and you know what happened the republican party unamiously opposed it you know why? the republican party recieves huge campaign contributions from finacial institutions and corporations who they guard the intrests of.
doctorw2 5 months ago
@doctorw2 If you think the Democrats and the Republicans are two separate, opposing parties then you're sadly misled. Obama won an election because he said he'd get us out of Iraq... yet here we are, involved in even more wars. The two parties are just part of one big hoax we call the 'two party system.' Lobbyists control %90 of our federal officials with the exceptions of Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Justin Amash and a few others.
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@igoodnessi311
"Obama won an election because he said he'd get us out of Iraq"
- really? i thought he won the election because he was running against idiots and was simply the best choice.
"The two parties are just part of one big hoax we call the 'two party system.'"
- yes all governments are being controlled by the world bank....Hilary Clinton is really a man and there was no moon landing.
:)
types10000 5 months ago
@igoodnessi311 Totally right; I voted for Obama, but I have been thoroughly unimpressed. While most of my life, I have sided Democratic, I would not hesitate to vote for Ron Paul.
TheMrGebler 3 months ago
@igoodnessi311 Do you think Obama said we'd get out of Iraq overnight. No. He said we'd get out by the end of 2011, and that's what's happening. Get yo facts straight!
PaperComedy 3 months ago
@PaperComedy
Maybe you should get YOUR facts straight. Obama said he would have ALL combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months of being elected. FACT!
ColdAsHe11 3 months ago
@ColdAsHe11 @ColdAsHe11 Really? Because it looks like he pulled out all the combat brigades out of Iraq more than a year ago. Watch the news you fucking idiot.
PaperComedy 3 months ago
@PaperComedy Hey douchebag, do some real research and stop believing everything you read. There are still brigades there, just under different names. And the link you sent me in a private message was dead, learn how to use the Internet, retard.
ColdAsHe11 3 months ago
@igoodnessi311 We are out of Iraq though
juffan 2 months ago
@juffan are you serious? we're going right next door, to Iran. and we still have God knows how many troops STILL in Iraq at all the military bases. and that's not just Iraq. that's everyfuckingwhere. not to mention the big fuck up of entering Afghanistan. "we are out of Iraq though" big fucking whup.
mooseyhole 2 months ago
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@doctorw2 If you think the Democrats and the Republicans are two separate, opposing parties then you're sadly mistaken. Obama won an election because he said he'd get us out of Iraq... yet here we are, involved in even more wars. The two parties are just part of one big hoax we call the 'two party system.' Lobbyists control %90 of our federal officials with the exceptions of Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Justin Amash and a few others.
igoodnessi311 5 months ago
What an inhumane crook!!! lets hope that he never gets elected!!!
sarsanch 5 months ago
@sarsanch You're ignorant.
igoodnessi311 5 months ago
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@igoodnessi311 If you believe what Ron Paul says you are the ignorant one Universal Health Care works very well in many countries but if one day we happen to get it we the people have to make sure that we don't have these crooks in power these Repugnant Republicans are lying right in your face and many people believe them out of selfishness having no compassion for other human beings.
sarsanch 5 months ago
talking in circles,,,this is his HUGE weak spot.......It's my tax money, I want it to go towards health care for other who can't afford it..I don't care the reason they need it..I want to help people,,,free market HAS NOT HELPED ANYTHING....It is why the 1% makes more then the 95% of people combined....
morsea30 5 months ago
@morsea30 That may be your moral position that you wish to use a portion of your tax dollars to pay for medical care but there are those who do not wish to pay into medicare/medicaid for their own personal reasons. I just don't think every American should be forced to pay for something that some may not believe in. I respect your compassion and in Ron Paul's ideal America people like you would donate to local hospitals, foundations, churches, etc. to provide care and take out the gov to reduce $
TheDougass 5 months ago