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  • He's got to be skitzo right? I mean how can someone be so bloody ignorant? I just cannot fathom the ridiculous nonsense that spewed from his mouth. And his arrogant self righteous tone... jesus. Also the non-stop "flood" dribble.

  • Oxygen is poisonous in high concentration. Look up oxygen toxicity.

  • this video is hilarious yall are actually defending evolution wow theres some negative iq

  • they never found giants. this guys an idiot

  • There's no such thing as a blue truck. Ex; the tires are black, the windows are clear, and the engine in silver. Talk about missing the point. Dumb on purpose and its painfully obvious.

  • he's a bit special is our ken, this is a result of child neglect and care workers that continually abandon him. when kens brain is left to its own devices the results are mind numbing.such reasoning should be sitting in a psyche ward

  • you should debate his son or him when he gets out of prison

  • It is good someone out there is exposing the lies of Christian fundamentalists.

  • This guy us nuttier then a fruit cake. Science has already proven him wrong on so many occasions and subjects. Besides Rock, dust, what's the difference? Say let's just pick a number like 10 miles down, sounds real scientific to me. He just GUESSES AT EVERYTHING HE DOES. IF WE GET LUCKY HE'LL DIE OF CYANIDE POISONING. Why would a god any god let this man procreate?? Facepalm!

  • "Dr. Kee Mori"

    It's Mori Kei, not Kee Mori, idiot. In Japan, the family name comes first and the given name comes last. It's like saying Hovind Kent.

  • @UnmaskedTuxedo Actually, saying the family name first in English is incorrect. You only put the family name first if the language you're speaking requires that you do.

  • people all over the world is sad because Kent is in jail and cannot teach the most reliable and accurate origin of all things in the world.

  • @ikawpipa haha, you serious???!!

  • @ikawpipa r u being sarcastic?

  • @guineapiggyman - if all people are like me, the world would be a better place to live in and will have peace.

  • @ikawpipa yep. and boring as hell. a bunch of robots, no doubt doing the same jobs, etc. there wouldnt be any advancements. its called 'primitive' hun. primitive times were the most peaceful.

  • Kent Hovind..... fundamentalist preacher in a lab coat. I wonder... will we ever see real scientists dressing up as clergy?

  • So Kent first denies plate tectonics, saying that the continents are connected to dirt under the sea, and later quotes the Bible, believing that the earth is founded upon the seas. It takes a special kind of person to be this fucking stupid.

  • extantdodo.. hey man, you're in the Bible and you're fullfilling prophecy with this video..  "there will be those that will try to deceive you.. read your Bible amn and get on your knees and ask forgiveness..

  • @Dewdaahman @Dewdaahman I can tell by your comment that you've assimilated everything in this video and have drawn a rational conclusion...

    ...not.

  • @Dewdaahman You should be in the nut house in a strait jacket, on your knees or standing, it doesn't matter as long as you're in a padded cell

  • @SpudsAndKimchi I'll tell ya what, you stay in Ireland and I'll stay here and we'll get along just fine.. deny the Lord from a distance.. remember the days when manners would have stopped you from typin' what you did..? it appears your parents failed to rear you in the way of the Lord.. not their fault though, they can only do so much with so litle..

  • @Dewdaahman Yep, that suits me down to the ground, you stay where you are and I won't have to listen to your psycho nut job comments about a fairytale that never happened, I was raised Christian by the way, but fortunately I now follow logic and don't believe in such fairytales, seriously if you believe Kent Hovind you need help

  • @Dewdaahman

    Because beating your kids is always the best form of parenting. Just ask Lydia Schatz and Sean Paddock.

  • @TheZooCrew hitting ur kids should be last resort, but nescessarly in some occations.

  • I'm sorry, I can't watch the full video, after about 10 minutes I just can't bare watching the dishonesty and stupidity.

  • @biggingeryeti "I just can't bare watching the dishonesty and stupidity". The only stupidity is that he went to jail instead of walking off with all that lovely loot. The dishonesty is not exceptional, it is absolutely classic public relations and propaganda technique. Maybe the cynical fabrication of a common belief in creationist / anti-science, for money-making purposes, has made a monkey out of many honest folks' minds. Alternatively, this is the christian-right's answer to stand-up comedy.

  • He's got you beat on I.Q and no amount of studying will change that! - my advice is that you make critical video's of people with a lower I.Q. than yourself to avoid critism from those of us who are a little smarter!

  • @TREACLE97 Yeah, but no matter how big his I.Q. was, he still wasn't clever enough to stay out of jail for tax evasion, haha!

  • Is Java man a good programmer?

  • ok I was agreeing with everything debunking Hovind until it got to the topic of giants. I've been getting into Sitchen's work and if true (according to the Sumerians) the "Anunaki" were pretty big. If that's true it might explain more accurately the occurrence of "giant" human fossils: a mix, if you will of alien dna into the gene pool. I don't think it's wise to write these remains off as a disease. Seems lazy and non-imaginative to me to do so :)

  • Hey, just watched the whole clip. Just wanted to say thanks for the upload, was quite interesting to watch. If this vid is yours, congrats.

  • LOL, the first clip looked like a bad porno.

  • This is so fraudulent that I wonder if he is not breaking any laws that he can be prosecuted for.

  • @dewonderkind I see what you did there hurp durp

  • I don't think it's been discussed at all that Kent Hovind is a con artist. He's a convicted fraud and his assertions aren't from ignorance but blatant lies (See potholer54 debunks). He has made a lot of money from creatards with his business model that rapes creatards' wallets with his dvd's, talks and donations etc. From reading about the guy and looking at the hypotheses he presents, I thoroughly believe his creationist persona acts only to fraud innocent gullible families for their $.

  • @JaySmith91

    dude I went on amazon to see if his dvds were on sale there: $80! . Are you shiting me?! My mother stayed up all night with me showing me these dvds to get me to believe this dip shit. it's fucked up!

  • Can anyone of YOU tell .where Kent Lies ?! if you do not , you"re a liars !!!

  • Teacher Kent Hovind has no intellectual equals in university debates. His rivals are confused, tongue-tied and flustered. Why? Why are there no professors who can state scientific principles WITHOUT hemming & hawing? Why do these "professors" NEVER address the gaping inconsistencies in radio-carbon dating? When Kent Hovind cites mainstream (govt.-sponsored) tomes that blatantly contradict one another, he is ignored. Why? It's vital in a closed society to marginalize dissent.

  • @TheManWithTVEyes ''Why do these "professors" NEVER address the gaping inconsistencies in radio-carbon dating?'' BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY, IT WORKS JUST FINE.

    ''When Kent Hovind cites mainstream (govt.-sponsored) tomes ...'' WHAT GOV.SPONSORD TOMES??

    It is called Science, dummy.

  • @TheManWithTVEyes

    "Why are there no professors who can state scientific principles WITHOUT hemming & hawing?"

    Most scientists are shy nerds.

    "Why do these "professors" NEVER address the gaping inconsistencies in radio-carbon dating?"

    Because there aren't any.

    "Hovind cites mainstream (...) tomes that blatantly contradict one another, "

    Usually several decades apart, at the very least. Hovind is a liar, which is why he rots in jail right now.

  • @MomoTheBellyDancer : Kent Hovind is a political prisoner.

  • @TheManWithTVEyes

    "Why are there no professors who can state scientific principles WITHOUT hemming & hawing?"

    Mostly to remain accurate. Precision is important and it's often rather complicated to fully explain a scientific principle.

    "Why do these "professors" NEVER address the gaping inconsistencies in radio-carbon dating?'

    Begging the question. There are no 'gaping inconsistencies' in any kind of radiometric dating.

    It's vital in any society to punish those who break the law.

  • @TheZooCrew : Your detailed apology for corporate science orthodoxy is touching.

  • im trying to listen to what he says, how am i supposed to make my own opinion when you cut scenes every 5 seconds

  • @Twinpact Because Kent lies every 5 seconds !

  • @gregrutz i have watched the full unedited video and i have something to say "may god have mercy on your soul"

  • @Twinpact Did you watch the ''debunked' videos which show Kent is wrong about everything. Watch again.

  • You say that the surface temperature would increase with a drop in air pressure? Dropping pressure=>dropping temperature with the relationship PV/T=Cons

  • @JaySmith91

    You're forgetting that V is also changing. With the destruction of an ice canopy, air would literally blast away from Earth due to pressure, changing the density.

  • @ExtantDodo

    4:20 - 6:30 How much water did you suppose was up there in order to make your calculations?

  • @eagleeye2102

    Why does the amount matter? Hovind laid the criteria. Radiation blocking is given by its absorption spectrum. Along with certain physical and chemical properties, radiation absorption is dependent upon path length, or in this case thickness of the canopy. For a vapor/water/ice canopy to totally block radiation with smaller wavelengths than visible light.

    Either way, a "canopy" of any state of water is a physical impossibility.

  • @TheZooCrew

    "For a vapor/water/ice canopy to totally block radiation with smaller wavelengths than visible light, it would need to be thick enough to increase the air pressure by a factor of 64.

  • @TheZooCrew haha ok, you again. :b

    Maybe Hovind is wrong, the Bible doesn't say that it blocked out all the UV light, or that it blocked out anything. We don't know how thick it was either, if it existed of course. The atmosphere can only hold a certain amount of water, maybe the ice canopy was exact at this water limit?

  • @eagleeye2102

    "We don't know how thick it was either, if it existed of course."

    It didn't. It's a physical impossibility.

    "The atmosphere can only hold a certain amount of water, maybe the ice canopy was exact at this water limit? "

    The atmosphere is not a sponge. See Saturn's rings? Ice in the atmosphere would look like that, not like a "canopy." This is how gravity works.

  • @TheZooCrew This might be the only problem. "Ice in the atmosphere would look like Saturn's rings that, not like a "canopy". Well, we have to look at how Saturn's rings were formed and how the canopy was formed. The rings of Saturn were formed by asteroids flying into Saturn, etc. The canopy however was, if it existed, designed, there was a intelligence behind it. Super cold Ice gets very malleable, like gold. Maybe that and other features made the canopy stable, lets think theoretical.

  • @eagleeye2102

    "The canopy however was, if it existed, designed, there was a intelligence behind it. "

    Facts not in evidence:

    1) There is no geographical nor spatial evidence of this "canopy"

    2) The rings of Saturn were most definitely not formed by impacts with Saturn...most likely Roche was right

    3) There is no evidence whatsoever of "intelligent design" of anything on any level

    You clearly haven't taken a single physics class and don't understand structural mechanics even a little.

  • @TheZooCrew I'm just seeking the truth. thx for this discussion.

  • @eagleeye2102

    You don't honestly think you're making legitimate arguments, do you? I recommend studying for a long, long time. Finish high school, go to college, get a degree in one of the hard sciences, then try again without lying. At this moment, you're just another Dunning-Kruger datum point.

  • Hovind "I'm going to believe it until its proven wrong". Proof he has no understanding of science.

  • you r stpuid

  • 400 people who viewed this are inbred creatards...

  • I'm sooo glad he's in jail. I would've convicted him on stupidity alone.

  • idk who this is but your wasting your time this guy ,your never going to lead someone astray

  • kent hovin. tax cheat and convicted felon.

    W.W.J.D ??

  • creation vs evolution . free forums . org

  • arent these guys late for their KKK meeting, fucking dumb rednecks

  • This series can be purchased on Amazon for only $88!

    The giant thing is interesting though and cannot be dismissed as a condition from what I've seen. Especially when you find a whole group of them in one area in N. America and they had red hair. Very strange but doesn't prove Hovin's point. He's taking something that the scientific community turns away from but thats because it is just so out there.

  • @DrakillT

    "Since the implementation of cyanide treatments, no patient has ever died from illness."

  • @DrakillT

    Imagine doctors:

    "Well, we can stop the cancer from killing you."

    *facepalm*

  • Xians should stop and think....if Hovind can lie about his taxes, what makes you think he wouldn't lie about this stuff??

  • @Cootabux

    Didn't you hear? TAXES are the lie and Hovind is our savior for standing up against the oppressive government that kills everyone!

    /sarcasm

    For all their ranting against the government, creationists don't seem to understand that they're extremely lucky to live under a government that lets them publicly lie their asses off.

  • the funniest thing ive seen on this video was " Cuozzos arguments are riddled with conspiracy theories. At one point, he claims that a neanderthal suffered from a gunshot wound to the head" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Is this what you call a critical analysis? He tells you what he believes, and you say that its wrong with less proof than he has for his arguments? Sounds a little thin to me...

  • @broadbandtogod

    All references are listed at the end.

    Living in fantasy world where you can ignore whatever you want and still think you're making a valid argument must be nice, though.

  • Indians hunted dinosaurs!?!?! TUROK!!!!!!!!!!!  I am not willing to delude myself into believing creationism if it means I get to believe in Turok the dinosaur hunter.

  • ......And the Hovind circus keeps on rolling.

    I don't whether to laugh or to cry for the people that believe this.

  • @BigMrSox Cry. They're human's as well. 

  • your writings makes no sense u r a more on!

  • You'd think if people lived that long they would have a better understanding of the world they lived in and would come up with a more comprehensive and enlightened philosophy.

  • You'd think if people lived that long they would have a better understanding of the world they lived in and would come up with a more comprehensive and enlightened philosophy.

  • Oww... When he said "There are things that are pre-FLOOD..." I facepalmed so hard, I think I gave myself a concussion.

  • It is sweet that this guy is now in jail.

  • @nickst0ne Why don´t you take his place, maybe he does more good to the world preaching then you moaning?

  • @avilakaj : He does more good to the world frauding the IRS, substituting evidence from justice, and preaching obscurantism in the face of science ? He does more good preaching that the bible, a book inciting genocide, is the truth ? He does more good doctoring false evidence to support his religion which is just one more religion ? I'm all for truth. Not superstition. Not lies. Not falsification. Not even death penalty (unlike god fearers). He deserves jail. I don't.

    Go check science, buddy!

  • @nickst0ne -What should I say about that? - You clearly know that things you say is the truth...I don´t have your picture of God as a moron. I have experiances of Him as love. Nothing else. He is not a God you put in your pocket, He is like life itself - larger than religions and man´s efforts to try to understand life without Him. It´s pointless really, to try to explain it to people who decided to not listen. Regarding Hovind - I don´t know everything about him, he is my brother thats it.

  • @avilakaj : spiritual experiences are real and there's no denying them. But these experiences also happen to be consistent from one religion to the other. The feelings experienced and in some cases the visions or voices ("hallucinations" but I mean it scientifically, not disparagingly) associated with the experience will be similar. If you say that you've had experiences, I don't doubt that. If you affirm that it was experiences of "God", I have to object that it is "cognitive dissonance".

  • @nickst0ne "spiritual experiences are real and there's no denying them." I deny the reality of spiritual experiences. You are free to refute my denial of spiritual experiences in whatever manner you see fit. However, to attampt to refute my denial you must first concede that the denial is there to refute, thereby disproving your statement concerning the deniablility of spiritual experiences.

  • @davidsfriend01 : "there's no denying" is just an expression. So... from a literal point of view, this expression is inherently false: anything can be denied even unreasonably. 1 point 4 U.

    Denial is not there to refute. Denial is just a refusal of a claim. Denial does not necessarily have a (conscious) goal, be it refutation or anything else. What is more, denial does not equal refutation. Denial is merely an unsupported counter-claim. Refutation is a supported counter-claim. 1 point 4 me.

  • @nickst0ne I apologise for the misunderstanding. My intention was not to challenge you to refute my denial, as you said, it cannot be done. My intention was for you to refute the existance of my denial, which is pointless. I was not trying to attack your beleif in spiritual experiences, just the position that thier existence is beyond denial. Absolute statements can lead one down a dark path and claiming something is beyond denial infers it's absolute, self evident existence, beyond any doubt.

  • @davidsfriend01 : once it's been put in evidence through science (which is the case) it should be considered beyond doubt.

    What I believe you might be wrong about is what I mean by spiritual experiences. And I only mean the feelings experienced, which can be somewhat related to the "oceanic feeling". I don't mean that something supernatural is real and that it perceived through those experiences.

  • Your analysis proves nothing. More fodder to deny the truth. Dinosaurs are alive today and were not Dinosaurs but a species created and some were mutated by Satan's seed. This is the same thing man is doing today via Satan's help, like putting an ear on a rat's behind. God's power has no limitations but it does have ORDER! Satan knew that the only way he could distort the truth was to be opposite of what God had done and to disturb wholeness. ORDER OUT OF CHAOS is Satan's theme. You will see!

  • @BrownEagle7 Dinosaurs were mutated by Satan? lmao

  • @BrownEagle7 God and the devil are the same thing.... figments of your imagination. What "proof" can you offer of your ridiculous hypothesis? Going "Hovind" and repeating "Bible says...." "Bible says...." does not count as "proof".

  • @BrownEagle7 Just when I thought the talibangelicals couldn't get any crazier...

  • @projectlevydelta

    ...it is proven that what he stated is often right. So nobody in biology talks about haeckle's law but about haeckel's rule. That means often it works, but not always. And don't you think that other scientists also repeated his thoughts to veryfy or falsify it?

  • @projectlevydelta

    Ah okay he's right but wrong in his concept? And it is why you think there was a big flood? I am not blinded by anything, I read many sciencebooks, have to due to my studies. And I have seen many of those evo "bashes". As I said most of them are out of context or wrong cited.There are errors in Textbooks or they are not up to date. But don't blame science for it but the government. And you refer to Haeckl's work right? Maybe those were manipulatetd, but...

  • "He claims that men lived to be 900 years old."

    "900 years? That's not even possible"

    "Uhhhh, Yes it is."

    Really? Cause the average lifespan of a human today is 67.2 years. You're short about 832.8 years.

  • to you all who cant see the truth it was flying spagheti monster that created universe and thought ous how to make spagheti

  • Wow...a lot of Hovind hate here...Don´t you have something better to do than mock this guy?? I like him a lot and he is making great points in his seminars - but thats me. If you hate God and people exposing evolution as a farytail, I completely understand you - but you only prove to me that you have no love to other people that don´t have your beliefe system....sad

  • @avilakaj

    "...he is making great points in his seminars..." until you actually think a little bit about them.

    "but you only prove to me that you have no love to other people that don´t have your beliefe system"... really? And religious folks have love for those that don't believe in their "God(s)"? They show how much love they have by killing those who had different beliefs, not as bad now, but it still happens every day, especially in countries where the government is ran by religion! SAD!

  • @Spetsop Yes, real christians have love for others that don´t have their beliefe system - of course there are real nutcases everywere no matter the faith..."They show how much love they have by killing those who had different beliefs" - I say no to that - because you´re not talking about REAL christians. If you read the letters from Paul you can see what I mean. I don´t know what kind of christians you´ve met, they must have been really a sad story...I got your point and agree in some of it...

  • @avilakaj

    That's right, whenever someone does a bad thing they are never "a REAL Christian". That's an easy way out, nitpick everything that can be viewed as a bad thing by today's standards and put a label on it of "fake Christianity". I bet at the time the Bible was written, if someone had a slave, they'd still be considered a real Christian!

    Also, I wasn't just talking about Christianity, I was talking about all religions.

  • @Spetsop Take it easy boy - of course christians can do bad things! We´re just humans, BUT when it comes to murder in the name of God and use power to oppress people they are not "for real" so to speak...Anyway, the only way to really understand what I mean is to have a personal experience with Jesus - right now, you don´t care at all but it will come a day when God seeks your heart - Take care!

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  • @avilakaj

    Sir, you are deluded. Thank you

    bye bye :D

  • @KEEETARO What do you mean? What looks like a farytale? Compare: "Once upon a time 14 billion years ago, nothing created everything." Or this: "In the beginning God created heaven and earth." Take your pick, I vote for the last one, since God has proved to exist to me MANY times...

  • @avilakaj

    Nothing created everything? Who said that? oh, Its you :P

    Well, its better than believing that earth is flat and incest, murder, genocide is fine :)

    No amount of belief makes something true. You know... Faith is believing something you know isn't true :]

  • @avilakaj

    Who said nothing,? What about your God who created everything from nothing. Or a God who is from nothing. That is more paradoxical I guess. Honestly we don't know what really happen before the bigbang and I'm not buying into absolute certainties of mediocre minds. The difference between stupid and genius is that genius has its limits. Buh bye.

  • @KEEETARO My God? hahaha....you´re funny...It´s all about faith and a personal relationship with God - if you don´t have it you think God is a fary-tale so I understand why you don´t believe it...

  • @avilakaj

    I don't care about your personal relationship. Its yours and your alone. Its your choice but the fact you only cherry pick the good bits and leave behind the horrible facts is just running from reality. We don't need personal relationship like what you have. We have family, friends and love ones. They are enough... If you can understand why you don't believe in other religion then you will also understand why me too.

  • @avilakaj

    And what about the crusades? Killing people in the name of god..sounds familiar.

  • it would have been much easier for you and for us if you'd just debated the man face to face.

  • @ afkhajiit: well, its true. and you can't stop me from telling you about GOD and the Bible, and Jesus and all the good things that HE will provide for you if you get saved. (Jeremiah 29:11, for I know the plans I have towards you saith the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you an expected end). Of course I believe this only applies to Belivers, but, if you don't want a good life and you don't want to go to Heaven, don't accept CHRIST as your LORD and SAVIOR. HE loves you anyways.

  • 17 is extremely weak, you should omit it from this video..

  • the introduction

    it is painfully lame.

    it is so bad it's chalenging

  • @vladolenin: i think u stumped him...

  • @gulburk: u are completely wrong. Yes, GOD did make our brains, but being gay, is not something u ramdomly "figure out", or "realize" u decide u want to be gay, but u are not made that way. if being gay is how some people are born, then tell me how that is possible. b/c i don't think it is and we are made in GOD's image, and as far as i am concerned, im almost positive GOD is not gay. if u don't belive me, look it up in the BIBLE. We're made in HIS image.

  • @evolutionismisstupid shut the hell up, god damn

  • God does not create sin because sin is disobedience of God. God is Lord of all and Creator of all. Whoever or whatever chooses to rebel against God IS SINNING. Thats how authoritative the God of the Bible is.

    Just a little heads up: christians are not spiritual beings, not yet anyway. For now we are in the flesh like you or anyone else, we make mistakes. However, Jesus calls us to be like Him and be holy, but we all still have our own individual choices.

    Mark 10:7-9 - God hates divorce? Yes.

  • @vladolenin, thank u so much, i totally agree with u about GOD not making people gay. They choose that themselves and it is a very BAD and sinful choice. And it bothers me so much when they say they "realized" they were gay at a certain age. It's like, NO, U DONT REALIZE UR GAY, U CHOOSE IT, U SICKEN ME, AND U ARE MAKING A VERY BAD CHOICE, AND UR EITHER A MAN, OR A WOMAN. im going bac to this old thing against gayness, GOD MADE ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!! and to @gulbirk read Gen. 1:27

  • @evolutionismisstupid Hahahah, if you actually knwe anything about biology you wouldnt know that being gay is NOT a choice. Its a miss comunication in your brain. And god did make your brain. I dont give a shit what your bible says, because its the most barbaric piecy of shit I have ever seen.

  • Oh wtf. We know that the average age back then was about 30 years or something, so why cant he just present some real evidence or shut up. LOL.

  • God created man. Man denies God. God shows mercy to man. Man remains foolish. God remains patient. Man gets angry with God. God shows sympathy. Man attempts to provoke God. God reminds man who He is. Man remains arrogant. God keep true to His Word.

  • @vladolenin And where exactly did you get that from. What about the flood, and the hundreds of thousand people that God killed in the old testament. What about his promisses that he will send us to hell, isnt that threataning enough, does he really have to fuck up this life to?

  • @gulbirk God doesnt threat us, we threaten ourselves. We are fallen beings that need reconciliation with our Maker who loves us, who died as a sacrifice for us and rose from the dead as a mark of new life we can have in Him. People tend to overplay the hell angle a bit too much. First of all God is love and as such gives us what we want most - freedom. Freedom to choose. Freedom to not choose. Wherever choice exists, good and evil possibilities must exist otherwise choice is null and invalid.

  • @gulbirk If you read Genesis, you will see that God did not enjoy flooding the earth. He did not enjoy the wickedness of man that filled the earth with depravity far worse than that of today either. Man broke every natural law and order in his rebellion against God in Genesis. To the point of fathering giants as tall as cedar trees and sacrificing their newborn to these whom the Greeks identified as the gods Zeus, Apollo, Hercules, The Titans, etc. Thousands of years have passed fact to fiction.

  • @vladolenin Dude, he created man, he created EVERYTHING. SO, bascily he determined what was evil and what wasnt evil. And he if he all knowing, and all is planned, he knows what will happen. That is what the bible says. And if thats true then free will is a joke. And btw, he is the ultimate judge, in the end he is the one who sends me to hell. You could argue all you want that I am sinning and so on. But in the end, its up to him.

  • @gulbirk If you are so convinced of His omnipotence and omniscience, the perhaps you should also consider His redeeming love for you and me which, if accepted, overrules the law of punishment. GRACE OVER LAW. That is who God is.

    If He is as powerful and authoritative as you say He is, then ask Him for His grace and forgiveness. He will answer without fail. He is the ultimate judge, but He is also the source of ultimate Love.

  • @vladolenin No, even if he was real I would only prays him because he has the power to judge me. Thats like a Mafia Boss. Why forexample, does he make people homosexual just to send them to hell. Or tell them that they cant be homosexual, while other parts of the bible tells you to be true to yourself. Oh yeah god i loving, if you ignore all the barbaric evil, vicous barbaric parts were he willingly kills people or make others performe genocide.

  • @gulbirk You are working of false assumptions - God doesnt make anyone gay. That is an "abomination" (something really horrible) against the way God designed the natural world.

    Step out of the confusion that this world puts you in. Step into the light of the Word of God - The Bible. Your questions will be answered. But while you listen to REALLY BAD sources, you will always remain in doubt about the character of God.

  • @vladolenin Hhaha, doesnt god make your brain. If you werent a compleate retard you would know that homofilia is because of a miss comunication in your brain. I still wouldnt worship him, because respect is soomething you earn, not something you get because you have great power to judge people. That is EXACTLY like a mafia boss.

  • @gulbirk "God is like a mafia boss"... That is the stupidest analogy I have ever heard. Quit watching movies and read up on what you dont understand.

    "Homofilia (its homophilia) is because of a miss communication in your brain"... No, no it isnt. Even homosexuals say it isnt because then they would have to acknowledge that theyre messed up, and they think theyre normal and "natural". You dont understand the subject material well enough to have an opinion. Read and learn.

  • @vladolenin They are normal. Btw I looked it up, there is also something genetical about it. Un accurate copying (or mutation) on one of the genes. Its ENTIRELY natural, because it happens in nature= Its not a choice, you cant choose it. And you are the one who havent bother to investigate it.

  • @gulbirk Your choices affect your biology. Sin degrades the natural into the unnatural. Your choices and your body are linked and interdependent. This is the reason God hates sin - it turns you, your body, your mind, your soul against God and into the rotten mess this world is known for.

    Denying responsibility for your own actions stems from lack of maturity and abscence of strong character. You can make yourself believe youre not responsible, but everyone else knows you are.

  • @vladolenin No you dont get it. You dont choose it, you are either born gay, or not. Its that simple. If you are born gay and choose not to be gay, then you brake another part of the bible. The one about being true to yourself. Your choices doesnt effect your DNA and brain btw.

  • @gulbirk "being true to yourself" - what does that even mean? A human being is created in the image of God but has the choice of choosing to follow His example or go your own way. We are, in a sense, sponges that absorb what we touch. God tells us not to associate ourselves with the darkness of this world, not to love the world or anything in it. This doesnt mean not to love people, but not to love sin or sinful behavior.

    Being true to the Word of God is a part of the Bible. Not to yourself.

  • @vladolenin So its a mafiaboss right? Because its all about worshipping him, and not you. You arent importent, he is. Btw, if he did create everything, then he did create everything. What you are saying is that he did create everything, and made some of those things sinfull. Why did he make them in the first place? Oh, I know, to test us right? Then that just what I mean when I say he is wicked.

  • @gulbirk You ARE important to God. He died for you on the cross to pay for your sins! Now there is nothing between man and God except one thing. You have a choice- love Him, or love yourself.

    God is NOT a mean kid with a magnifying glass, He is Lord over all. But hes not a bad ruler like people are. Dont compare the King of kings to a sinful and wicked man. God has authority of life AND death power and weakness wisdom and foolishness but only those who love Him are trusted with understanding.

  • @vladolenin "" God has authority """

    Yes, thats all its to it. If you actually did love mankind, he wouldnt lett there be a hell. He wouldnt make us this way. If he did love us, why make us in such a way that he knew we were going to fail, and then send some of us to hell? Btw, I hardly doubt you follow all the teachings of jesus.

  • @gulbirk God is holy. He is above sin and hates it. Anyone defiled by sin deserves death, not at the hands of man, but by being distanced from God, aka hell (hell is ultimate separation from God for eternity and unending torment). He wont partake in the sin of man and He wont accept it. He loves to forgive those who choose to repent, but He wont make those who rebel against HIm love Him against their will.

    Which teaching of Jesus did I miss?

  • @vladolenin If he is above sin, why did he create it? Why did he create absense from non-sin. Most christians do not follow the following rules from Jesus. Mark 10:7-9,  Matt 5:22 (LOL),, Matt 5:39-40 (so there is no need for layors),,, Matt 5:17-18 (no laws shall go),,,Matt 19:17-21 (wow),,,,Luke 18:22,,,luke 12:33,,,Luke 14:33,,,,John 6:51,,,Matt 5:20,,, etc.

  • @gulbirk Matt 5:22 - Men tend to sin in their anger because it is oftentimes over nothing. Gods anger is righteous.

    Matt 5:39 - Turn the other cheek and love your enemies, Jesus showed us the perfect example of this upon before and during the crucifiction.

    Matt 5:17 - Jesus came to fulfill prophecy and reveal to men the grace of God which is stronger than the law, hence it becomes the new law. For there is no hope for those who live ONLY by law and not by grace We must fulfill the law in love.

  • @gulbirk Matt 19:17-21 - Jesus was testing where the young mans heart was, he loved money more than anything. If it ever comes to the point in our lives to choose either money or what God wants, what will we choose? "The LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all sin". This young man chose money over God. Our lives are temporary and to love something temporary and petty as money more than what is eternal is foolish. Keep in mind the limited ammount of time you have here on earth. Many forget that.

  • @gulbirk John 6:51 - Jesus is the Word of God. Those who eat the word (absorb it into their being) recieve new life and power from it. No, that doesnt mean we become superheroes... But we are changed from the inside by the power of His Word which "cuts to the divisions of flesh and spirit" allowing us insight into our lives from Gods point of view. God is good and what he works in those who love Him is also good.

    Matt 5:20 - Our righteousness is in Christ, not in ourselves, not in false modesty

  • @vladolenin Anyhows, you do not follow christ teachings if you dont obey to OT laws. And you would also have to sell all your posetions. And if someone sais something bad about you or your faith you should just turn away. So technicly we shouldnt even be talking about this.

  • @gulbirk " if someone says something bad about you or your faith you should just turn away" - where did you get that idea?

  • @vladolenin Its from the turn the other cheach. And how about matt 5:22. how often havent that been said? And you have matt 5:11-12.

  • @gulbirk Turn the other cheek means allow them to hit you on the other cheek. It doesnt mean turn around and walk away. And yes, calling "raka" or empty, stupid person is horribly wrong. Each person has tremendous value in God's eyes and to say otherwise is to demean one God's children. He loves all of us and hates it when we mistreat each other.

  • @vladolenin Then why did jesus call people fools? Matthew 23:17 or Luke 11:40. Isnt that kinda dobbel moral?

  • @gulbirk Fool is not "raka". This word is used constantly throughout the old testament, especially in proverbs where the wisest man to ever live (Solomon) points out the ways of the fool vs the ways of the wise. Foolishness is the opposite of wisdom. It is not a bad word though it denotes a bad trait in someone. God knows we do not have enough wisdom in and of ourselves which is why the Bible says "he who lacks wisdom ask of God who gives freely and without reprise".

  • @vladolenin  No, jesus sais its wrong to call people fools, but he himself call people fools to. That was my point.

  • @gulbirk The Bible often calls certain ones fools (empty headed or refusing to do God's will). Here are some examples; The atheist is called a fool (Ps. 14:1), the slanderer is said to be a fool (Prov. 10:18), those who despise instruction (Prov. 15:5), a contentious person (Prov. 18:6), the one who lives for pleasure (Luke 12:13-20), the one who trusts in his won heart (Prov. 28:26) all are called fools by God.

    Luke 11:40 You foolish people!