@taylor50100 halo actually takes skill any retard can play cod give them a noobtube and they can still get 10 plus kills halo you cant, halo you have to be a good player and have strategy
I do highly respect your opinion but I tend to disagree with some of the statements. One Halo Reach can be competitive. Also Call of Duty can be about winning at times there are times it is all about the k/d ratio but there are times when there is some kid smack talking so you just want to kick his or her ass. Also what about Battlefield 3 it has not been known for its multiplayer but in recent games the multiplayer has actually been better than call of duty's.
How come at the start of the video you said it's just your opinion, then halfway through you keep drumming the same things into our heads by saying them over and over? That's obviously not just your opinion, you keep trying to make us believe what you're saying. (even though I do agree with the stuff you said).
respect for the video dude, it's awesome although Reach is hated in because it isn't like halo 3, but there is a reason for this.....Halor reach is a prequel as we all know meaning that it has to be set at an earlier date, so everything has to be different which unfortunately made the game lack that Halo magic (but it was still a great game). However with Halo 4, we continue were halo 3 left off, meaning that the games, including most weaponry should and hopefully will stay the same :)
great video i realy like how you prevent to be offensive. thats realy rare on the internet
second:
there might be not as much competitiveness in Reach as in H3 but i think there are many players, like me, who mostly go for the win. Team slayer? i want to win. rumble pit? i want to win. even living dead? i want to win and rule the leaderboard. i want to -blam!- win. but i would like to see a skill system like in H3, too. this could maybe help.
reach had some good things in it i believe we need the credit and rank system for H4 because i like both one of the things i don't like in halo reach was there wasn't that much vehicle war fair like H3 had and they need a DMR switchable BR attachment gun that would be epic they need to bring back DUALS smg's mallers from h3 they need to have a big wepon selection and they need armor arabilitys and the pick ups like the flash bubble sheild grav lift like in H3
All of you who think H4 gonna be like H3, while bashing Reach... Consider packing your bags, or else, hit your skulls w/ a Gravity Hammer & snap out of it. Also, my inner feelings tell me (using the Halo formula of cource) H4 is gonna go after BF. Super maps w/ vehicles, ect. Now, I know nothing. So to prepare myself, am thinking all previous Halos & then some, are going to join forces & blast me into the next dimension if I don't start flexing my muscles now.
I respectfully disagree. I always care about winning in Reach. CoD is the game i don't care about winning a match. In that game as long as i got killstreaks I'm happy. In Halo I'm a team player. As for K/D and rank i couldn't care less about it.
another thing i don't like how you say "We" as if you speak for everyone...
oh and about your comment about call of duty and people buying it; they would buy a new game after three months because they can play the same thing over and over and continue to just through there money away for essentially the same game. These people are what i like to call stupid. There hasn't been a good call of duty since WaW.
wow i completely disagree with you, i see what you're saying but Halo 3 had the worst leveling up system. In reach you can see your progress and that gives you insentive to continue playing, i did not feel that way once while playing Halo 3; you don't see any progress, and eventually i just said to hell with it. For example i when my skill was 19 i played 3 ranked matches in a row and won with at least +5 and my skill dropped to 18. WTF!
Yeah reach isn't a total failure. I agree that it wasn't as big or competitive. I miss how I hit a stale mate with my skills in Halo 3. I'm good at reach and have competitive times, but its fun fire the most part. Almost everything in reach is just a joke.. I liked how Halo 3 had the social area for fun and even the cereal area. Yes! The private matches were original, fun and hectic. Forge was at it's peak. Ok kind of skeptical on the part where you said, "halo 2 makers will help h4 matchmaking.
i diss agree a lot reach is the best halo game in my oppinion who cares if you win or lose if youre having a good time the armory is fucking great the commendations are great forge are great and yes there is competive gameplay in reach please dont hate on my comment im just saying my opinion like everyone else
@TheNbaEveryday So what your saying is, if halo reach had a social playlist and every playlist had a ranking system separate from your own rank and a 50 based off your K/D thats not involved with your rank at all, then halo reach would surpass every shooter game?
I'm not trying to troll, but if you think its all about competitiveness then go play griffball and watch these fuckin inheritors in a 5 party team spawn kill you. Learn to troll on halo and "cock of duty" and the game will be better.
@mario4356 It would be a lot better than what it is right now, is what he's saying. All of the Halo 3 patrons who loved the competitive aspect and ranking system of Halo 3 would still be playing Reach if it had those things, but instead, since it doesn't have those things, disappointed halo fans went to Call of Duty, or stopped playing period, significantly damaging the integrity of the Halo franchise. My opinion yes, but facts do support what I said.
@dlav321 who really gives a fuck about call of duty or battlefield when you can just switch teams and get a win on your record. Todays FPS games suck so much balls because its ALL! FUCKIN! GENERIC! Most of the halo fans stopped play reach for 2 reasons.
1.They got caught back in 2011 may when they banned everyone for exploits and mods.
2.Parents by the game not really knowing its a shooter game, and mature players get annoyed so they get a serious look game instead.
@TheNbaEveryday I agree with everything you said in this video.. also they need map variety/originality and more asthetically appealing graphics. Reach spartans are ugly as fuck and have way to much unnecessary detail. I wish Halo 4 producers would take heed of this somehow and realize what we devoted Halo fans are saying.
about reach, i really think your wrong. i think your wrong because your boxed in on your game types. i mean, yea, your right about in halo 3 you lose XP when you lose, but what if your racing someone to get to a certan rank? and to be honest, its not that easy to rank up in reach, the only way to rank up fast is if you get first place on all your games. im srry im just exprecing my opinian
BTW, forums tell you nothing, they are rumors, and it comes out Holiday 2012, not soon at all. Also, no one wants to hear you rant because you suck at Halo Reach and COD.
The competitiveness is key, there needs to be a 1-50 ranking system again. I'm betting there's going to be one for h4... If not I quit:/ lol oh and DMR's, sprint, armor lock, JET PACK, noob, easy sniping, short little fat spartans that can't jump and gay ass armor.. Needs to go.
Reach didn't do well because it fucking sucked shit. Not because it's not competitive wtf. I hate every little tiny thing it's made up of, and every single feature.
a lot people hate on halo reach ... but I'd say Reach did somethings right ... even if i think that halo 3 was the better game i hope halo 4 is going to be a crossover of reach and 3 in its style
I love the commendations in Reach ... i think the reach ranks arent that bad but maybe the influence from halo 3 with more focus on the wins would be better ... like already said hopefully a crossover from Halo 3 and Reach
There are 2 types of players, casual and tryhards. Halo3 catered to both types and was very successful. But Reach totally ignored the tryhards and doesnt even do a good job supporting the casual players. And it make it worst, vanilla reach is very imbalanced.
But people still want to love halo, since the TU reachs population has doubled! That shows people want to love Halo, even though reach is bad.
As much as i love halo reach, gotta say that halo 3 was atleast 3 times better, better maps, drop-items, dual wield, and it was just a lot more fun to play. totally agree with you dude, peace out :)
I just remembered a something that happened to me in halo 3. I was in a 7 on the 7th match and someone told me that he was a hacker and that he could get me recon in return for my name, adress, posal code, credit card number etc. I asked him how they were hackers but haven't gotten banned and he said "because no one gives a shit about halo 3". Microsoft doesn't give a shit what game your playing. the last time I checked, hacking was still hacking.
So I started repeating all that, started throwing out a bunch of insults and said what my brother says to himself when he makes the slightest mistake in a game and told him "you're an idiot, you're an idiot, you deserve to die!". I checked the recent players list and he had never gotten offline ever since.
Also the other thing is the maps, dont get me wrong forge world was amazing but alot of the awesomness was gone from the halo reach maps where in halo 3 almost every map was fun to play on except for maybe 1 or 2. Valhalla is still my favourite halo map of all time. Bone yard and boardwalk and lots of other halo reach maps just felt too dry and boring and lacked that amazingly mysterious feel to them like you have entered a different universe
One thing i really agree with is that all of the credits you get from a match is not from doing well it because of the game completion, you only get like 7 cr per kill its stupid and then you get about 1000-1500 for game completion. In halo reach you rank up from playing the game lots not from playing the game well. sometimes i own mythics that are crap and get owned by colonels becasue even though the colonel may be better he just hasnt played as long.
Your point is that halo 3 has a true rank system not experience for playing. And I know what your saying I use to play MLG all the time in halo 3. But MLG is not the same in reach. Not that competitive side anymore.
Halo: Reach's Multi-player was horrible.AA's and bloom were disliked by so many people, and for good reason. They don't belong in a Halo game. This guy is right about Halo 3. I'm hoping 343 feels the same way.
I spent like 12 hours playing custom games on halo 3 and it was so good then halo reach came out and this money system shit came and again like TheNbaEveryday said Halo stopped becoming about the wins and the stories yet it became about halo 3 fans going off at bungie and abandoning halo for Call of duty i miss halo 3 i too still have all my friends from halo 3 i played with :p
I agree with everything you said! Halo 3 was incredible yet it feels like everyone ran to Call of Duty when MW2 came out and they have been there ever since. I feel 343 will do well and make Halo 4 unforgettable. Call of Duty is fun but it often feels like a cheap gimmick with new paint every year. I stopped buying Call of Duty games with Black Ops. The experience was fun but not as impacting as Halo 3 was. It will be exciting to see players come back in droves once they get burned out from COD.
Halo Reach Does have competitiveness.. ARENA, MLG and the new zero boom slayer. If you don't find that competitive i would like to play you.Halo 3 customs were HELLA more fun than reach's at the time, if halo 3 had reach forge it would have been the most fun experience.
BUT You have to look at the future play the new games and get used to them. Halo reach can be just as competitive as H3 i actually find H3 Easier nowadays than reach, AGAIN my opinion But just look to the future.
halo 3 is amazing its all i play kuz they got rid of halo 2 if h2 was still around id still b playin that i have so many memories from that game they need to re release halo 2 like h1
actually the only game type that is competitive in reach is arena, which the more you play u get signed to a division the better u do the higher your division and if you leave or loss your not going any were but down.
Halo 3 has the best campaign too, but i liked the fact that you had something to win like credits. And In halo CEA the maps are symmetrical and they don't have too many cheap spots.
I'm pretty sure most people care about winning in reach and your K/D is actually pretty easy to find, and how can you say halo 3 is the most competitive if you just said stuff about having fun for hours and hours in a custom game, isn't competitiveness also about fun then?
FULL ONLINE MULTIPLAYER EXPERIENCE \(^o^)/ lol you're mostly right though. With Halo 3 you had to earn that rank. I only made it to 38 on lone wolves and 39 on team slayer, but goddamn I worked my ass off to get there and that's the only game I ever took seriously when it came to ranked matches. I don't mind the Reach perks though, as long as they keep them out of ranked matches and reserve them for the more relaxing social matches. Oh yeah, and bloom has to take a vacation.
Great vid, imo H4 shouldn't include silly perks such as sprinting and jet packs. Imo another reason why H3 was so successful was cause it was a very fair game.
I HAD to sign onto Youtube just so I could favorite this video. You my friend, are exactly right. You hit every single point about why Halo 3 was a great game. As a Halo 3 player with 50's in every playlist, I will admit that the H3 days were the best of my life. I would wake up every morning and all I would think about was when the next time I could play H3 was. Reach though? I have played it a total of 15 hours. My best friends were made playing H3, and I will never forget that.
dude i agree a 100% on what u said to me it wasn't a opinion it was a fact i wish 343 would let you create halo4 you hit every thing on the dot i am a MAJOR halo fan i played every halo game to halo: ce to halo:ce anniversary and beat every halo but after halo3 every thing went to shit i hated halo wars which was created by 343 i barley played odst and halo reach was a disappointment i believe if they just act like halo reach,odst and wars never existed and start from halo3 we'll be on top!!!
I coudlnt agree with you more about Halo 3 dude, I love the cod games aswell as Halo and Call of duty are my fav games of all time. But for me, none of them come close to Halo 3's multiplayer.
geezzzz i feel you pain cause i feel the exact way halo 3, it was fun trying to get to 50 and if you wernt good enough you would dlevel when you lose a game, it was a game of skills also some much fun playing with friends in mlg....Guys if you want the fun back in halo go to the mlg site and support GOLD PRO in the forums the are really trying to make reach fun again
@Avery7667 No need to hate man, it was just an opinion, im not perfect i said things in this video that might have been wrong, i just wanted feedback from others
Damn, Walshy. That's a huge block of text there =) Its been a long time since I've watched a montage from your channel, Reach kind of ruined Halo for me (I sort of dislike it the same way people dislike MW2 after COD4), both good games but still attached to the one that I grew up with. Might rent CE and see if it feels anything like it did those many years ago.
The majority of the gaming population is casual; gaming is still a recreational activity for most of the world. A game's competitive viability affects a substantial amount of the population, but it doesn't matter to a good 2/3 of the gaming population. The fact that you bring up CoD's dominance and its weakness as a competitive title throws a massive wrench into your main argument.
Well, apparently Halo: Reach was marked down from 40 to 30 on Amazon, which is probably what you're using. This is unreliable, because there may be some sort of sale. 40's still a solid price. And this Halo 3 being 60 for whatever amount of time assertion needs evidence.
I don't follow MLG much, but I'm fairly sure that Halo: Reach is still going to be around the circuit next year. Also, if Halo: Reach is going to make an early departure, it's because of Halo 4, not because it was bad. If Halo 4 came out 2 years after Halo 3, Halo 3 probably would have ended early too.
If you look anywhere in MLG forums where there's a debate involving Halo 3 and one or more of its predecessor's competitive viability, Halo 3 always loses in a landslide. It is a shitty competitive title relative to Halo 2, and especially relative to CE. Bullet spread, weaker maps, a horrifically oversimplified close-range combat system; the list goes on and on. The more random results from Halo 3's MLG circuit are more proof of this; the skill cap was indeed lower.
@FBWalshyFTW and Halo Reach is is worse than all of that! Halo 3 is better than Halo Reach thats all that matters. And of course Halo 2 and CE destroy Halo 3 and Reach as well.
The "real" competitive gamers only care about how much you can customize the game settings. MLG gametypes are completely handcrafted, and MLG events use these gametypes. MLG couldn't give a fuck if there was 5000% bloom and 5% speed by default; as long as they can customize it back to normal; it's all good.
Go to Wikipedia; Reach set a franchise record with its release. Also, how many copies were bought initially doesn't matter; it's all about staying power. You acknowledge this later in the video by saying that Reach "sold a ton of copies" but it only maintained a solid community for "2 days", which negates what you said before while directly contradicting it.
I also agree that Halo: Reach needs a ranking system, but you were citing the wrong reasons for it. First of all, Halo 3's ranking system was near worthless to "real competitive players". 50's were very easy to get, many were bought, and the fact that so many people could get a 50 made it a joke relative to Halo 2 when getting anything above a 40 made you ridiculous at the game.
I agree that CoD isn't the competitive title that Reach is, but it DOES have a skill gap, and people DO take it seriously. Hutch goes over playing to win and help your team instead of going for k/d or montage clips all the time, and TONS of people agree with him. There's a reason why he has about half a million subscribers.
I understand that you're trying to be open minded, but most of this video is just: Downplay CoD horribly, prove that Halo 3 was absolutely flawless (which it wasn't), downplay Reach horribly.
I can't stand listening to people like you. You start by saying "this is just an opinion, I respect everyone else's opinion" And then you just spout shit for 10 minutes.
You're getting really jumped up about FUCK ALL.
I ONLY play Halo: Reach, and I play competetivly AND for fun. Real MATURE players can tell the difference, and can PLAY BOTH.
AND you talk about ranking taking no skill in reach? Are you forgetting about all of the boosters in H3? I never met a single legit 50 in that game.
@TheMightyPnut I respect your comment, i understand you like Halo Reach. You only play reach? Thats good. You might take Halo Reach as a competitive game, but Halo Reach does not even take it as a competitive game. It has playlists like MLG and so on, but if you win that what happens. Nothing, just some xp. Halo 3/2 was different man. Boosters? Even boosters needed some skill to become a 50 with someone else. Statistics do the talking, after Halo 3, Halos publicity went down the drain I miss it
@TheNbaEveryday I play cometitively, and the personal satisfaction of winning is enough for me. If you want a silly little number - that no one really respects anyway - to show off to a bunch of 10 year olds online, so be it.
The fact is: I used to play H3 ALOT, and I could never get past a certain point (30 - 40) in EVERY playlist, purely because the H3 system was so fucked up.
@TheMightyPnut My friend you are not seeing the point, 343 industries is a company man. They care for the biggggg majority of the Halo players. I respect your opinion about halo reach and self satisfaction is enough. But people lived for the ranking system in halo 3 and Halo 2. Why the heck do you think not much people play Halo reach compared to when halo 3 was out. You should know that.
Hope they watch this video might knock some sence into them
halo20678 22 hours ago
OMFG 18840 PLAYERS ONLINE =).
halo20678 22 hours ago
U SPEAK THE TRUTH
halo20678 22 hours ago
halo 3 got everything right easy 9.5 halo reach i'll give it a 6
halo20678 22 hours ago
halo reach's players are goin down every day they failed hard...its funny bec i think theres more players on h3 right nwww.
halo20678 23 hours ago
HALO 3 IS THE SHITTTTT!!!!!!
halo20678 23 hours ago
@TheNbaEveryday You forgot to talk about the famous BR :) and this guy should be a politician! haha
MatthewMcGlead 1 day ago
Wins and Losses matter in Arena. /point.
LordEmpyreal 2 days ago
um... tons of players care of winning. but they dont have an elo rating system and thats a problem for competitors.
zooMZooMlikeATyphOOn 2 days ago
FUCK COCK OF GAYFARE 3
VaygrX 3 days ago
Skill matchmaking created de rankers
VideoFletcher 5 days ago
you suck MW3 is way better than halo 3 your so out of date loser
taylor50100 1 week ago
@taylor50100 halo actually takes skill any retard can play cod give them a noobtube and they can still get 10 plus kills halo you cant, halo you have to be a good player and have strategy
AnMLGPony 6 days ago
@taylor50100 What lol
camdog124 5 days ago
I do highly respect your opinion but I tend to disagree with some of the statements. One Halo Reach can be competitive. Also Call of Duty can be about winning at times there are times it is all about the k/d ratio but there are times when there is some kid smack talking so you just want to kick his or her ass. Also what about Battlefield 3 it has not been known for its multiplayer but in recent games the multiplayer has actually been better than call of duty's.
Fish19335 1 week ago
finnaly someone understands nice vid man i respect your opinion
MrBranace 1 week ago
"multaiiplayaar experience"??
MrNexxo 2 weeks ago
How come at the start of the video you said it's just your opinion, then halfway through you keep drumming the same things into our heads by saying them over and over? That's obviously not just your opinion, you keep trying to make us believe what you're saying. (even though I do agree with the stuff you said).
RandomizedBox 2 weeks ago
what about battlefield???????????? so much better than cod
Kansascityman9 2 weeks ago
halotracker try it
Mrpossy1 2 weeks ago
best. video. ever.
ThePashaHassan 2 weeks ago
I believe reach is horrible compared to halo 3 reach makes it seem like they are trying to be like call of duty
tyleraverette 2 weeks ago
sorry for commenting again but mw2 shouldn't be compared to Halo 3, the distance between there releases is well over 2 years haha
asassinuk 3 weeks ago
respect for the video dude, it's awesome although Reach is hated in because it isn't like halo 3, but there is a reason for this.....Halor reach is a prequel as we all know meaning that it has to be set at an earlier date, so everything has to be different which unfortunately made the game lack that Halo magic (but it was still a great game). However with Halo 4, we continue were halo 3 left off, meaning that the games, including most weaponry should and hopefully will stay the same :)
asassinuk 3 weeks ago
bring back the 50s, the br everything halo 3 had like he said halo reach doesnt show true skill at all
MrSpartigus34 3 weeks ago
I agree completely, I played a lot more custom games for hours on halo 3, but not CoD. Halo 3 MLG was so amazing, Reach MLG sunk it.
golfman212212 3 weeks ago
Halo2 FTW
Halo 2 rank system and bring Clans back
xXTHYBEASTXx4 3 weeks ago
first:
great video i realy like how you prevent to be offensive. thats realy rare on the internet
second:
there might be not as much competitiveness in Reach as in H3 but i think there are many players, like me, who mostly go for the win. Team slayer? i want to win. rumble pit? i want to win. even living dead? i want to win and rule the leaderboard. i want to -blam!- win. but i would like to see a skill system like in H3, too. this could maybe help.
jup331 3 weeks ago
reach had some good things in it i believe we need the credit and rank system for H4 because i like both one of the things i don't like in halo reach was there wasn't that much vehicle war fair like H3 had and they need a DMR switchable BR attachment gun that would be epic they need to bring back DUALS smg's mallers from h3 they need to have a big wepon selection and they need armor arabilitys and the pick ups like the flash bubble sheild grav lift like in H3
roboticle117 3 weeks ago
BATMAN!
MrSpacegodzilla21 4 weeks ago
All of you who think H4 gonna be like H3, while bashing Reach... Consider packing your bags, or else, hit your skulls w/ a Gravity Hammer & snap out of it. Also, my inner feelings tell me (using the Halo formula of cource) H4 is gonna go after BF. Super maps w/ vehicles, ect. Now, I know nothing. So to prepare myself, am thinking all previous Halos & then some, are going to join forces & blast me into the next dimension if I don't start flexing my muscles now.
ImperialGenKlenner 1 month ago
I respectfully disagree. I always care about winning in Reach. CoD is the game i don't care about winning a match. In that game as long as i got killstreaks I'm happy. In Halo I'm a team player. As for K/D and rank i couldn't care less about it.
another thing i don't like how you say "We" as if you speak for everyone...
NinjaApe101 1 month ago
gaming is about having fun thats the only reson for it existans and cod blows
harryjoe24424 1 month ago
oh and about your comment about call of duty and people buying it; they would buy a new game after three months because they can play the same thing over and over and continue to just through there money away for essentially the same game. These people are what i like to call stupid. There hasn't been a good call of duty since WaW.
margig32 1 month ago
wow i completely disagree with you, i see what you're saying but Halo 3 had the worst leveling up system. In reach you can see your progress and that gives you insentive to continue playing, i did not feel that way once while playing Halo 3; you don't see any progress, and eventually i just said to hell with it. For example i when my skill was 19 i played 3 ranked matches in a row and won with at least +5 and my skill dropped to 18. WTF!
margig32 1 month ago
Yeah reach isn't a total failure. I agree that it wasn't as big or competitive. I miss how I hit a stale mate with my skills in Halo 3. I'm good at reach and have competitive times, but its fun fire the most part. Almost everything in reach is just a joke.. I liked how Halo 3 had the social area for fun and even the cereal area. Yes! The private matches were original, fun and hectic. Forge was at it's peak. Ok kind of skeptical on the part where you said, "halo 2 makers will help h4 matchmaking.
essspada64 1 month ago
i diss agree a lot reach is the best halo game in my oppinion who cares if you win or lose if youre having a good time the armory is fucking great the commendations are great forge are great and yes there is competive gameplay in reach please dont hate on my comment im just saying my opinion like everyone else
thehalofan12345 1 month ago
@thehalofan12345 I respect your opinion my man, I won't hate. Thank you for respecting mine.
TheNbaEveryday 1 month ago 3
@TheNbaEveryday Isnt reaach arena leagues based on wins tho? wtff
SuperMrCupcakes 1 month ago
@TheNbaEveryday So what your saying is, if halo reach had a social playlist and every playlist had a ranking system separate from your own rank and a 50 based off your K/D thats not involved with your rank at all, then halo reach would surpass every shooter game?
I'm not trying to troll, but if you think its all about competitiveness then go play griffball and watch these fuckin inheritors in a 5 party team spawn kill you. Learn to troll on halo and "cock of duty" and the game will be better.
mario4356 2 weeks ago
@mario4356 It would be a lot better than what it is right now, is what he's saying. All of the Halo 3 patrons who loved the competitive aspect and ranking system of Halo 3 would still be playing Reach if it had those things, but instead, since it doesn't have those things, disappointed halo fans went to Call of Duty, or stopped playing period, significantly damaging the integrity of the Halo franchise. My opinion yes, but facts do support what I said.
dlav321 5 days ago
@dlav321 who really gives a fuck about call of duty or battlefield when you can just switch teams and get a win on your record. Todays FPS games suck so much balls because its ALL! FUCKIN! GENERIC! Most of the halo fans stopped play reach for 2 reasons.
1.They got caught back in 2011 may when they banned everyone for exploits and mods.
2.Parents by the game not really knowing its a shooter game, and mature players get annoyed so they get a serious look game instead.
seriously, FPS fans suck.
mario4356 5 days ago
@TheNbaEveryday I agree with everything you said in this video.. also they need map variety/originality and more asthetically appealing graphics. Reach spartans are ugly as fuck and have way to much unnecessary detail. I wish Halo 4 producers would take heed of this somehow and realize what we devoted Halo fans are saying.
dlav321 5 days ago
@thehalofan12345 thats why halo reach sucks: your comment.
ThePashaHassan 2 weeks ago
@thehalofan12345 You're clearly a noob..
dlav321 5 days ago
wow your 100% correct i reckon. hopefully halo 4 is like halo 3
DazzzalationVIDS 1 month ago
about reach, i really think your wrong. i think your wrong because your boxed in on your game types. i mean, yea, your right about in halo 3 you lose XP when you lose, but what if your racing someone to get to a certan rank? and to be honest, its not that easy to rank up in reach, the only way to rank up fast is if you get first place on all your games. im srry im just exprecing my opinian
skull10545 1 month ago
Tis UbZ GaeYYyY LuL (trollface) I apologize but you set urself up for that
Lawfish66 1 month ago
i think halo 2 had everything better than any other halo
samoanwarchild 1 month ago
I Iike virgina's but at the same time, they annoy me.
ILoveXXRussellcXX 1 month ago
"Just because we couldn't get a 50" because you suck,
WombatSniper761 1 month ago
BTW, forums tell you nothing, they are rumors, and it comes out Holiday 2012, not soon at all. Also, no one wants to hear you rant because you suck at Halo Reach and COD.
WombatSniper761 1 month ago
I feel like Halo Reach is more fun, COD sucks, you have no life, and you should shut your fucking mouth and get back to NBA 2K12.
WombatSniper761 1 month ago
The competitiveness is key, there needs to be a 1-50 ranking system again. I'm betting there's going to be one for h4... If not I quit:/ lol oh and DMR's, sprint, armor lock, JET PACK, noob, easy sniping, short little fat spartans that can't jump and gay ass armor.. Needs to go.
stayINthePIT 1 month ago
@stayINthePIT waow dont be a douche just say youre opinion instead of being a annoying fanboy
thehalofan12345 1 month ago
Reach didn't do well because it fucking sucked shit. Not because it's not competitive wtf. I hate every little tiny thing it's made up of, and every single feature.
McGeezle 1 month ago
There is a huge flaw in your argument. Halo Reach has The Arena which imo is the most competative Halo experience yet.
silentsniper526 1 month ago
ur absolutley right i could never figure out what halo reach was lacking, then u hit it spot on, it was the competitiveness. they never had it.
skinsfan117 1 month ago
a lot people hate on halo reach ... but I'd say Reach did somethings right ... even if i think that halo 3 was the better game i hope halo 4 is going to be a crossover of reach and 3 in its style
I love the commendations in Reach ... i think the reach ranks arent that bad but maybe the influence from halo 3 with more focus on the wins would be better ... like already said hopefully a crossover from Halo 3 and Reach
*sorry for spelling mistakes
Rouwiinator 1 month ago 2
@Rouwiinator I like the halo reach ranks, but they need to show skill (crossover of 3 and reach :))
XPrOSKiLZzX 1 month ago
i love halo 3 <3 its got the multiplayer where me and my friend get pizza and play online for hours and hours and hours :3
OrionGameStudios 1 month ago
no gay mwf for me i play halo only cuz it tacks more skill than any other games ex for mario .HALO and MARO for life!)
Mrpossy1 1 month ago
GOOD i luv halo3, reach,odst,anniversary i have enjoy it as good as the CE :)still playing them all
Xx3dviolencexX 1 month ago
i agree you have a good point.....
silliersauce77 1 month ago
I agree
TheColm085 1 month ago
There are 2 types of players, casual and tryhards. Halo3 catered to both types and was very successful. But Reach totally ignored the tryhards and doesnt even do a good job supporting the casual players. And it make it worst, vanilla reach is very imbalanced.
But people still want to love halo, since the TU reachs population has doubled! That shows people want to love Halo, even though reach is bad.
ninjaheartt 1 month ago
As much as i love halo reach, gotta say that halo 3 was atleast 3 times better, better maps, drop-items, dual wield, and it was just a lot more fun to play. totally agree with you dude, peace out :)
GamingWithRobin 1 month ago
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GamingWithRobin 1 month ago
You sir are a muthafuckin genius I say you should post this on 343 forums :) this has to be known
Real halo players are still here and think thay reach is of course crap!!!! Long live HALO 2, Halo 3 multiplayer :D
r3ne9793 1 month ago
Are you kidding me! Call of Duty doesn't dominate MLG Starcraft does
TheMagyarKing 1 month ago
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168anonymous 1 month ago
@TheMagyarKing it doesnt SC never had more players than CoD has but Halo has the longest reign in MLG
168anonymous 1 month ago
I just remembered a something that happened to me in halo 3. I was in a 7 on the 7th match and someone told me that he was a hacker and that he could get me recon in return for my name, adress, posal code, credit card number etc. I asked him how they were hackers but haven't gotten banned and he said "because no one gives a shit about halo 3". Microsoft doesn't give a shit what game your playing. the last time I checked, hacking was still hacking.
BrickBuster2552 1 month ago
So I started repeating all that, started throwing out a bunch of insults and said what my brother says to himself when he makes the slightest mistake in a game and told him "you're an idiot, you're an idiot, you deserve to die!". I checked the recent players list and he had never gotten offline ever since.
BrickBuster2552 1 month ago
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BrickBuster2552 1 month ago
halo3 is amazing but i like reach is great fuck call of duty halo4 looks fun
MrCliftopia 1 month ago
You're annoying s fuck.
MyNameIsUmm 1 month ago
I respect what you have said, and I agree for the most part, but in Halo Reach I am very competitive, and care about losing. CoD... not so much.
Anjelik02 1 month ago
i used to care if i lost in arena but then i realized id always get some crapy asshole teamate who would go -25 and make me lose when i was in onyx
joey7320 1 month ago
ya you have a good point there but i like the reach multiplayer.......but i've been screwing around in forge latly though......
silliersauce77 1 month ago
SUBSCRIBE!! dude i totaly agree
kayedee123 1 month ago
You sir, are the smartest person on earth like, favorite, and subscribed.
Snipebetrayal 1 month ago
@Snipebetrayal shu up
BrickBuster2552 1 month ago
@BrickBuster2552 I meant SHUT up
BrickBuster2552 1 month ago
Also the other thing is the maps, dont get me wrong forge world was amazing but alot of the awesomness was gone from the halo reach maps where in halo 3 almost every map was fun to play on except for maybe 1 or 2. Valhalla is still my favourite halo map of all time. Bone yard and boardwalk and lots of other halo reach maps just felt too dry and boring and lacked that amazingly mysterious feel to them like you have entered a different universe
TerrorFormerGaming 1 month ago
One thing i really agree with is that all of the credits you get from a match is not from doing well it because of the game completion, you only get like 7 cr per kill its stupid and then you get about 1000-1500 for game completion. In halo reach you rank up from playing the game lots not from playing the game well. sometimes i own mythics that are crap and get owned by colonels becasue even though the colonel may be better he just hasnt played as long.
TerrorFormerGaming 1 month ago
The only thing about halo 3 is that there a lot of douche bags.
H3ADSH0Ts17 1 month ago
My God....
I LoVE YoU!!!!!
*8-(D}
IsaacAlfaro3 1 month ago
Oh and where the fuck was my BR in reach. lol
BlazeMode94 1 month ago
Your point is that halo 3 has a true rank system not experience for playing. And I know what your saying I use to play MLG all the time in halo 3. But MLG is not the same in reach. Not that competitive side anymore.
BlazeMode94 1 month ago
halo 2 was really the best but then halo 3. lol
BlazeMode94 1 month ago
I remember MLG sunday watching with my friends aswell as sitting down playing halo and not getting bored at all
MyVideosYourViews 1 month ago
i favorite and liked! :) i hope your right with halo 4 !!!!!
ImNotSneeky 1 month ago
You are 100% correct man, agreed.
sneakyryan 1 month ago
THEY NEED THE HALO 3 ENGINE
xxjermxx70 1 month ago
Halo: Reach's Multi-player was horrible.AA's and bloom were disliked by so many people, and for good reason. They don't belong in a Halo game. This guy is right about Halo 3. I'm hoping 343 feels the same way.
Yargness 1 month ago
I spent like 12 hours playing custom games on halo 3 and it was so good then halo reach came out and this money system shit came and again like TheNbaEveryday said Halo stopped becoming about the wins and the stories yet it became about halo 3 fans going off at bungie and abandoning halo for Call of duty i miss halo 3 i too still have all my friends from halo 3 i played with :p
Marcelerate 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheNbaEveryday
I agree with everything you said! Halo 3 was incredible yet it feels like everyone ran to Call of Duty when MW2 came out and they have been there ever since. I feel 343 will do well and make Halo 4 unforgettable. Call of Duty is fun but it often feels like a cheap gimmick with new paint every year. I stopped buying Call of Duty games with Black Ops. The experience was fun but not as impacting as Halo 3 was. It will be exciting to see players come back in droves once they get burned out from COD.
zcxvasdfqwer1234 1 month ago
I love reach i dont care about winning or "KD" and play for fun and im warrant officer grade 3 halo reach is my first halo game btw
maredevil1 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheNbaEveryday
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HALO ANNIVERSARY CAMPAIGN YOU PROMISED?!
maredevil1 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheNbaEveryday
Agreed. We naturally enjoy and seek out competition.
The94Dan 2 months ago
You don't have that much competitiveness on any game
MegaRandomNick 2 months ago
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lilsmigel 2 months ago
you have a good point
undeadhornet77 2 months ago 6
@undeadhornet77 Thanks a lot
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago 2
2008 Str8 Rippin <3
HappyDude117xP 2 months ago
@HappyDude117xP Yeaaa buddy, good times!
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
my xbox just fucked up and i cant play h3 :(
HappyDude117xP 2 months ago
@HappyDude117xP Dang :/
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
I am going to be honest
I have to agree
usermaneman 2 months ago
@usermaneman Thank you man.
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
REPLY!
Halo Reach Does have competitiveness.. ARENA, MLG and the new zero boom slayer. If you don't find that competitive i would like to play you.Halo 3 customs were HELLA more fun than reach's at the time, if halo 3 had reach forge it would have been the most fun experience.
BUT You have to look at the future play the new games and get used to them. Halo reach can be just as competitive as H3 i actually find H3 Easier nowadays than reach, AGAIN my opinion But just look to the future.
TheBritFlicks 2 months ago
@TheBritFlicks I feel ya, honestly, all Halo Reach had to do was have the same match making system as Halo 3/2. No one would complain.
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
halo 3 is amazing its all i play kuz they got rid of halo 2 if h2 was still around id still b playin that i have so many memories from that game they need to re release halo 2 like h1
jamiesgirlxo22 2 months ago
@jamiesgirlxo22 I completely agree
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
sarcazoms
rexconman 2 months ago
@rexconman lol
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
actually the only game type that is competitive in reach is arena, which the more you play u get signed to a division the better u do the higher your division and if you leave or loss your not going any were but down.
splicer1508 2 months ago
@splicer1508 Yea i guess man, but its not as good as halo 3 multiplayer imo
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
he said 313 indusries
Tinklydog 2 months ago
@Tinklydog Sorry
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
agree
xcarlos5 2 months ago
@xcarlos5 Thanks man
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
Halo 3 has the best campaign too, but i liked the fact that you had something to win like credits. And In halo CEA the maps are symmetrical and they don't have too many cheap spots.
NOBL3T3AMPR0DUCTI0NS 2 months ago
I'm pretty sure most people care about winning in reach and your K/D is actually pretty easy to find, and how can you say halo 3 is the most competitive if you just said stuff about having fun for hours and hours in a custom game, isn't competitiveness also about fun then?
Hudsta10Gaming 2 months ago
I'm all for the return of Halo 2/Halo 3 style mp in Halo 4.
If the 1-50 system returns, I'm sure as hell going to get the game.
GameTerminal 2 months ago
YO YOURE WACCCKKKK SON, youre ONE LAME ass NIGGGGAAAA
jpbackflip 2 months ago
legit 35........
xBdoN187x 2 months ago
FULL ONLINE MULTIPLAYER EXPERIENCE \(^o^)/ lol you're mostly right though. With Halo 3 you had to earn that rank. I only made it to 38 on lone wolves and 39 on team slayer, but goddamn I worked my ass off to get there and that's the only game I ever took seriously when it came to ranked matches. I don't mind the Reach perks though, as long as they keep them out of ranked matches and reserve them for the more relaxing social matches. Oh yeah, and bloom has to take a vacation.
spartanGUN 2 months ago
this is garbage
muma0449 2 months ago
Great vid, imo H4 shouldn't include silly perks such as sprinting and jet packs. Imo another reason why H3 was so successful was cause it was a very fair game.
Perks isn't skill.
343 should watch this.
GaroesTheLamp 2 months ago
my kill death ratio is 9.38
DeLaAsian 2 months ago in playlist More videos from TheNbaEveryday
I HAD to sign onto Youtube just so I could favorite this video. You my friend, are exactly right. You hit every single point about why Halo 3 was a great game. As a Halo 3 player with 50's in every playlist, I will admit that the H3 days were the best of my life. I would wake up every morning and all I would think about was when the next time I could play H3 was. Reach though? I have played it a total of 15 hours. My best friends were made playing H3, and I will never forget that.
HiMyNaMeIsLeRoY 2 months ago
@HiMyNaMeIsLeRoY Thank you so much for your input, I couldn't agree more.
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
I agree with everything.
callumzezohan 3 months ago
@callumzezohan Thank you my man
TheNbaEveryday 2 months ago
@TheNbaEveryday Your welcome! Now, how about some gameplay? :P
callumzezohan 2 months ago
dude i agree a 100% on what u said to me it wasn't a opinion it was a fact i wish 343 would let you create halo4 you hit every thing on the dot i am a MAJOR halo fan i played every halo game to halo: ce to halo:ce anniversary and beat every halo but after halo3 every thing went to shit i hated halo wars which was created by 343 i barley played odst and halo reach was a disappointment i believe if they just act like halo reach,odst and wars never existed and start from halo3 we'll be on top!!!
mrtre1210 3 months ago
@mrtre1210 Thanks so much, i just hope halo 4 does work!
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
@mrtre1210 Halo Wars was not created by 343 Industries it was created by Ensemble Studios.
Sc0ttyz23 3 months ago
I coudlnt agree with you more about Halo 3 dude, I love the cod games aswell as Halo and Call of duty are my fav games of all time. But for me, none of them come close to Halo 3's multiplayer.
GetInThaKitchen 3 months ago
@GetInThaKitchen Fsho man, you get that right!
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
YAYY!!!
xxtacoxx96 3 months ago
geezzzz i feel you pain cause i feel the exact way halo 3, it was fun trying to get to 50 and if you wernt good enough you would dlevel when you lose a game, it was a game of skills also some much fun playing with friends in mlg....Guys if you want the fun back in halo go to the mlg site and support GOLD PRO in the forums the are really trying to make reach fun again
Listed21 3 months ago
@Listed21 Thank you man
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
i always care about winning doubles in reach.
xiTziiMaGiKx 3 months ago
@xiTziiMaGiKx I know you do, but what happens if you win? You get xp, what happens if you lose? You get xp.
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
You sound like a priest trying to convince me that God exists. Useless.
Avery7667 3 months ago
@Avery7667 No need to hate man, it was just an opinion, im not perfect i said things in this video that might have been wrong, i just wanted feedback from others
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
@TheNbaEveryday You speak the truth, i don't find anything competetive about jet packs and using AL.
raywillaimjhonson 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TheNbaEveryday
@raywillaimjhonson Exactly my man
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
Maybe having a smaller Halo community is better?
FLASHGABExMEDIAx 3 months ago
@FLASHGABExMEDIAx It might be? But as a business they wouldn't want that
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
Damn, Walshy. That's a huge block of text there =) Its been a long time since I've watched a montage from your channel, Reach kind of ruined Halo for me (I sort of dislike it the same way people dislike MW2 after COD4), both good games but still attached to the one that I grew up with. Might rent CE and see if it feels anything like it did those many years ago.
OhMyMaverick 3 months ago
@OhMyMaverick good input man, yea i talked to walshy, he's a great guy
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
The majority of the gaming population is casual; gaming is still a recreational activity for most of the world. A game's competitive viability affects a substantial amount of the population, but it doesn't matter to a good 2/3 of the gaming population. The fact that you bring up CoD's dominance and its weakness as a competitive title throws a massive wrench into your main argument.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
Well, apparently Halo: Reach was marked down from 40 to 30 on Amazon, which is probably what you're using. This is unreliable, because there may be some sort of sale. 40's still a solid price. And this Halo 3 being 60 for whatever amount of time assertion needs evidence.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
I don't follow MLG much, but I'm fairly sure that Halo: Reach is still going to be around the circuit next year. Also, if Halo: Reach is going to make an early departure, it's because of Halo 4, not because it was bad. If Halo 4 came out 2 years after Halo 3, Halo 3 probably would have ended early too.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
If you look anywhere in MLG forums where there's a debate involving Halo 3 and one or more of its predecessor's competitive viability, Halo 3 always loses in a landslide. It is a shitty competitive title relative to Halo 2, and especially relative to CE. Bullet spread, weaker maps, a horrifically oversimplified close-range combat system; the list goes on and on. The more random results from Halo 3's MLG circuit are more proof of this; the skill cap was indeed lower.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
@FBWalshyFTW and Halo Reach is is worse than all of that! Halo 3 is better than Halo Reach thats all that matters. And of course Halo 2 and CE destroy Halo 3 and Reach as well.
Sc0ttyz23 3 months ago
The "real" competitive gamers only care about how much you can customize the game settings. MLG gametypes are completely handcrafted, and MLG events use these gametypes. MLG couldn't give a fuck if there was 5000% bloom and 5% speed by default; as long as they can customize it back to normal; it's all good.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
Go to Wikipedia; Reach set a franchise record with its release. Also, how many copies were bought initially doesn't matter; it's all about staying power. You acknowledge this later in the video by saying that Reach "sold a ton of copies" but it only maintained a solid community for "2 days", which negates what you said before while directly contradicting it.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
I also agree that Halo: Reach needs a ranking system, but you were citing the wrong reasons for it. First of all, Halo 3's ranking system was near worthless to "real competitive players". 50's were very easy to get, many were bought, and the fact that so many people could get a 50 made it a joke relative to Halo 2 when getting anything above a 40 made you ridiculous at the game.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
I agree that CoD isn't the competitive title that Reach is, but it DOES have a skill gap, and people DO take it seriously. Hutch goes over playing to win and help your team instead of going for k/d or montage clips all the time, and TONS of people agree with him. There's a reason why he has about half a million subscribers.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
I understand that you're trying to be open minded, but most of this video is just: Downplay CoD horribly, prove that Halo 3 was absolutely flawless (which it wasn't), downplay Reach horribly.
FBWalshyFTW 3 months ago
how many people play this
madgamer099 3 months ago
@madgamer099 maybe 6,000 or so maybe more
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
I can't stand listening to people like you. You start by saying "this is just an opinion, I respect everyone else's opinion" And then you just spout shit for 10 minutes.
You're getting really jumped up about FUCK ALL.
I ONLY play Halo: Reach, and I play competetivly AND for fun. Real MATURE players can tell the difference, and can PLAY BOTH.
AND you talk about ranking taking no skill in reach? Are you forgetting about all of the boosters in H3? I never met a single legit 50 in that game.
TheMightyPnut 3 months ago
@TheMightyPnut I respect your comment, i understand you like Halo Reach. You only play reach? Thats good. You might take Halo Reach as a competitive game, but Halo Reach does not even take it as a competitive game. It has playlists like MLG and so on, but if you win that what happens. Nothing, just some xp. Halo 3/2 was different man. Boosters? Even boosters needed some skill to become a 50 with someone else. Statistics do the talking, after Halo 3, Halos publicity went down the drain I miss it
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago
@TheNbaEveryday I play cometitively, and the personal satisfaction of winning is enough for me. If you want a silly little number - that no one really respects anyway - to show off to a bunch of 10 year olds online, so be it.
The fact is: I used to play H3 ALOT, and I could never get past a certain point (30 - 40) in EVERY playlist, purely because the H3 system was so fucked up.
TheMightyPnut 3 months ago
@TheMightyPnut My friend you are not seeing the point, 343 industries is a company man. They care for the biggggg majority of the Halo players. I respect your opinion about halo reach and self satisfaction is enough. But people lived for the ranking system in halo 3 and Halo 2. Why the heck do you think not much people play Halo reach compared to when halo 3 was out. You should know that.
TheNbaEveryday 3 months ago