@bumtumlum dont compare vince carter to kobe bryant, vince carter is not one of the top 10 shooting guards to play the game let alone best all round player
kobe on his way to title number 2 we all appriciate kobe even more after watching that faggot ass lebron gay give up kobe was doing what those fags wade and lebron gay are doing now 10 years ago he makes both of them look like faggots with all his accomplishments 5 rings vs 1 and 0 kobes the man the closet thing to mj fuck the other 2 go lakers get number 6
Man these were the days. I mean the game is good now still cause the lakers are winning again. But as far as players man. Kobe, A.I, Vince, Fuckin Tracy Mcgrady a healthy T mac, Miss these days.
carter is wayy more athletic then kobe but that doesnt mean hes better look kobe came in before carter still goin strong carter came in after prolly gonna leave before kobe
lol at the people complaining about the video. get VC's balls out your mouth. it's done by a LAKER fan. what the hell did you expect? toronto highlights? every person on youtube who uploads highlight clips of their fave teams does this. you want fair highlights that show both teams making shots? watch some ESPN.
wtf wat a kobe addict he only has kobe videos. and look fag if it says raptors vs lakers u dont put lebron james in the video u fag y dont u look at kobes first 4 years 19.9 pts per game with shaq thats very convincing
vince is a great player,but he's no where near Kobes level, you could see it in the boston-orlando series,missed potential winning free throws, no defense at all and the guy got overshadowed by Reddick
@01251979acc Really so what happen to vince in the boston series i remember this guy only had like what 4 or 5 points he wasen't a factor man please don't even start
this right here was the best Raptor squad ever, conference quarter finals, all the way to game 7 against PHI, damn i miss these years. the Raps will never get up to the level that VC brought us to, never. I was at this game, KB8 with the fro, and Shaq with hair, man i was 9 yrs old and i attended VC's summer camps every year, and his all star games. I miss that nigga man, fo real.
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man get off kobe nuts fam. vc is a beast and is waaaaaaayyy better than kobe. the only thing carter needed was a team and now that he has it, i know he will try his hardest and he will go off with dwight. LBJVCAJ!!!!
No, Kobes prime as an athlete was in 02-03. And his D is at his prime now. He relied a lot of athletcism on D then and would get burned sometimes because he gambled a lot (hence how Oakley got that 3 off at the end) Kobes IQ on D is at his prime now. And he needs a team of elite players to smell the finals? lol APART from Pau who is an ELITE player on the Lakers? Did MJ win without Pip? Duncan without Parker.Manu.Robinson? KG without Pierce/Allen, magic without kareem? etc idiot
Learn how to spell before you come out and say a bunch of BS! Who's Kobes?
Give me one credible source that says Kobe was in the best form in 02-03, friggin idiot! His D is in no way in his prime! Back then, he didn't allow many SG's that he guarded to score over 20. Now, last season, it happened A LOT!
Spell? There's no spelling error you gay grammar nazi, it's youtube. what a fag..but moving on 02-03 was Kobe's best statistical season LMAO. 7 straight 40 point games, first time he was on all nba first team and all nba D. Kobe's been a regular all nba first teamer since. and credible source? try an actual laker fan here, not some gay fag who sits around and watches youtube highlights 9 years later and thinks he knows what he's talking about. haha you're fucking gay. what a moron.
What, does youtube have something against spelling correctly? Another nonsense!
You're so friggin retarded that you don't even remember what you're arguing for.
You're talking about his best year as an athlete, not a scorer. What's the point telling us he had 7 straight 40 pt games?
His defense was much much better back then, when he could play behind the big daddy. You made it seemed like athleticism has nothing to do with defense. What an idiot!
You guys think 00-01 Kobe. Kobe at 22 was at his athletic prime. LMAOOO hahahahaha. Kobe at 24 was at his athletic prime. He weighed 230 that season and was just bulldozing into the lane the way Lebron does now. I'm not going to even argue with you morons, laker fans know whats up. not faggots name namiejames. take care princess.
No one is more moronic than you retarded dumbass here. You do not represent Lakers fans. I've met Laker fans with a lot more knowledge than you do (e.g. weight = athleticism ????) Say Hi to the smart guys !
Dont' waste my time! Go to college first and keep learning before you bark.
Dude wtf is ur gay ass talking about? first u go into athletcism, then defense, then u go on about how gay u are. point being, 02-03 kobe was 230 and overpowering people in the post and in the lane, athletic prime in terms of creativity/speed/dunks, and was his PRIME as a professional athlete period physically. if you disagree then you haven't watched the lakers/kobe long enough. now go wash your vagina i smell it from here
NO, dumbfuck! You went into athleticism. The whole thing began when you claimed he was more athletic in 02-03, which I do not agree. He was relentless on defense on the clip here. He had a lot more energy and athleticism to play defense.
You stupid dumbwhore doesn't even keep the argument straight!
Like I said, keep learning!
Smelling pussies or dicks (whatever suits you ) does not make you an educated basketball fan. You're friggin disgrace to the Lakers fanbase.
Agree to disagree, but please be honest. How many games did you watch kobe play in 00-01 and 02-03? be completely honest. i grew up in LA and watched nearly every game start to finish. i've been clownin my last few messages, but people call me the biggest kobe homer, and i name every stat, any highlights, hell his fuckin daughters middle names and his shoe size. kobe is MY guy, i got into the NBA cuz of him and been watching him play in 97, so when some1 says 00-1>02-03 on any level = :s
More importantly, how old were you when you were watching him. at that age.
I never denied of his performance in 02-03, but you can easily see in this clip that he was a relentless player with non-stop energy on both sides.
Sure, he made mistakes but that wasn't the reason why you started talking BS to me. The Kobe I saw in 2000 season was as athletic as he ever got. He might have gotten bigger and smarter since then, but again that wasn't the original point.
But ye i fuckin live in Toronto now. And i watch games late at night on the internet shitty quality. post on laker forums, etc etc i know FUCKING KOBE. 02-03 his speed, agility, one on one D, perimeter D, career high in steals, etc etc he was a BEAST. his first step was unreal that year. it was definantly his athletic prime in every facet of the game.
I don't know man, Vince's stats in playoffs are actually better than in regular season. Also Kobe disappears on important playoff games too(not often, but sometimes he do), so your argument was pointless. And Vince was traded, because he wanted. I'm not fan of Kobe or Vince, just wanted to point that out.
first it was kobe vs.vince..than it was kobe vs. A.I....than it was kobe vs. tmac...than it was..kobe vs. wade...and its been kobe vs. lebron the last 4 years...thats just show kobe kept up his game..and works hard...next thang u know tmac,vince,ai,and wade fell off..but wade is back again...kobe is the man!!...kobe is what u called master the game...and master the mental aspect of the game...just like jordan....kobe will be great in his late 30's like jordan was....
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o yes vince..a.i..tmac...an wade were all way better than kobe back n tha day.now kobe iz at his peak....but so iz wade an wade iz way better than kobe...wade iz going 2 be better than jordan by his mid 30s he keeps playin like he iz now
littlevil420...Wade is no doubt a Great Player...One of the best Ever...But How do you figure that Wade is better than KOBE?...Kobe can match up with Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Ron ARTEST, Kenyon Martin, and Paul Pierce and hold these guys who are BIGGER in Check...CAN WADE HOLD THESE GUYS?....Answer...NO...Sorry dude but Wade is no where near in KOBE'S League...But Wade is GREAT...No Doubt about that.
Over the years, plenty of people have created multiple "Who's Better?" contest with Kobe involved in a lot of them. Kobe has won many of those matchups BUT Wade and McGrady are definitely up there with him. Carter had unlimited potential to be on Kobe's but for whatever reason, it wasn't meant to be.
When McGrady's healthy, he's just as deadly as Kobe. Wade (my favorite player) has, without question, proved himself and Wade will be the best shooting guard in the game when Kobe retires.
CLacy90...Kobe, Wade, McGrady are all Superb players...you can't go wrong with these guys provided they're healthy-If Any of these players faced the CUPCAKE Competition that Jordan played against-ALL 3 of these guys would Break Every Scoring Record Imaginable-Kobe, Wade, McGrady play against and face far superior competition on a night in night out basis than JORDAN EVER FACED HIS WHOLE ENTIRE CAREER-Let Kobe face Starks, Ehlo, Byron Russell, Glenn Rice..Kobe would be the ALLTIME SCORER ALREADY
I won't argue that. I believe if Kobe came first before Jordan, he would have revolutionized the game just like Jordan. But history has been made, Jordan is Jordan and Kobe is Kobe.
I saw what you said to littlevil420. I will point out that Wade is a better defensive player than Kobe. Not taking anything away from Kobe (he is a great defensive player) but this season Wade finished with over 100 blocks and 100 steals and he's barely 6' 4". Kobe hasn't done that.
kobebeast24...Jordan never played against the level of competition that Kobe faces on a night in night out basis...JORDAN FACED SO MANY CUPCAKES THAT HE NOW OWNS HOSTESS...JORDAN FACED SO MANY CUPCAKES THAT HE OUGHT TO BE DEAD FROM DIABETES...LOL...Jordan faced Chumps like Craig Ehlo, Starks, Byron Russell, Jeff Hornacek, Rory Sparrow, Bimbo Coles, Glenn Rice, Tony Campbell, Mike Mcgee...
KOBE Matches up with Hall of Famers like Lebron, Wade, Iverson, McGrady, V. Carter, P. Pierce, R. Allen,
Chea right Jordan had to face Isiah Thomas,Dumars,Magic,Bird,Clyde,Dr J,Olajuwon,Ewing,Robinson,Rodman & many mo hall of famers in his hay-day & da league wuz alot tougher back then & remember Jordan avg 20 a game wit da Wizards & he was 40 so picture how much he'll avg in todays league in his prime.
marqymarq1...Dude Learn the game of Basketball before you post Stupid AS$ Comments...Let's go through this Shall we..Jordan was a Shooting Guard...Magic played POINT GUARD not Shooting Guard...Jordan NEVER EVER MATCHED UP WITH MAGIC...Pippen Matched up with Magic while Jordan matched up with Byron "CUPCAKE" Scott and Tony Smith...Bird and Dr. J played FORWARD not SHOOTING GUARD and Hakeem, Ewing, and Robinson Played CENTER...Jordan never matched up with these players players-only Drex and Dumars
I Know da positions they played & I kno bball trust me I do's dis but Jordan faced way more physical defenses than Kobe, ever heard of the Jordan rules, u see the 90s knicks, u see the 90s Cavs & other teams, da league was way more physical back then & Jordan used to get his ass whooped faithfully. Why u think they stop hand checking, defensive 3 seconds & etc. So dont try to come @ me wit dat on youtube. Oh and like I said Jordan avg 20 a game wit da Wizards @ 40 so picture what he'll do @ 25.
marqymarq1...Here we go with this crap about Jordan facing more physical defenses-First off the Excessive Foul/No Hand Check Rules were implemented from 1990-1993-DURING THE JORDAN ERA-Jordan played under the same conditions as Kobe-Second off Kobe faces zones and zone trap defenses where teams can double and triple Kobe which would've been illegal when Jordan played-Being handchecked 1 on 1 by some cupcake like Starks or Ehlo is nothing compared to being Tripled by Pierce, Allen, and Garnett
LmOnAy...No..Pippen did all the dirty working defending the opponents best players while Jordan defended Cupcakes like Randy Wittman, John "ex-CBA" Starks, Byron 'I can't score' Russell, Jeff Lamp, Jeff Hornacek, Reggie "Whack' Williams, Tony Smith, Danny "11 points a game" Ainge, Mike McGee, Tony Campbell, Sasha "Who the phuck is that" Danilovic, and Rex "Whack" Chapman....Jordan matched up with more Cupcakes than Hostess...Give me a break
i was talking about matchups, you are not obligated to defend your position. Like nowadays kobe gaurds rondo to preserve energy and fisher gaurds ray allen who is just catch and shoot. I wasn't backing up MJ or anything i was just saying in basketball there is flexibility. give me a break.
kobe also had shaq which whom we won 3 titles and then pau with whom hes won 1 and now he has ron artest to go along with that...the big men that a.i. and vc have played with r not nearly as good as those kobe has played with...kobe has never won a championship without an all star big man...where was he without pau gasol?? couldnt even get past the first round...not denying that kobe is a great great player..but he needs a great big man to win
exactly my point u fuken idiot...kobe has had the opportunity to play with great big men whereas vince carter and allen iverson have not so im trying to make a point on their behalf against kobe given kobe has 4 rings and ppl think vc and ai havent won just bcz kobe is more capable which is not entirely true u fuken dumbass
didn't TMac have yao ming the last couple of years and what happened there?
didnt Allen Iverson have a solid Piston team at the beginning of last season when he was traded? and what happened, he destoyed them so shut the fuck up.
Kobe can win when he has the tools and players and the other wannabes CAN'T you motherfucker!
didnt t-mac have yao ming whos injured every fuken season and is not as good as pau gasol or shaquille o neal in there primes wat happened there?
isnt rasheed wallace not really a center but a power forward and even then also not as good as shaq in his prime wat happened there??
didnt vince carter have THEE ABSOLUTE PRIVELAGE of playing with centers who r 2 of the top 50 players of all time(SARCASM)- antonio davis in toronto and jason collins in new jersey??
my response is that you are a whiney little bitch who is complaining about how much Kobe is lucky...
where was Pau when he was with the Grizzlies?? I think he needs Kobe more than Kobe needs him. Kobe was almost if not as big a part of the 3peat years with Shaq and Shaq will admit that.
moron u havent responded 2 ne thing i said regarding t-mac u havent responded 2 ne thing i said about iverson or ne thing i said about vc so how about u respond 2 that first ive made another point alrdy wats urs?? pau needs kobe more than kobe needs him? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard...thats like saying garnett and ray allen need paul pierce more than he needs them LOL
i am right. quit arguing with me Kobe is wayyyy better than VC and you know it. look at the numbers he put up when he had a shitty team and look at the shitty numbers VC put up when he had a shitty team.
and so now that VC is with Howard u suppose they should win right?? welll they won't so dont get your fucking hopes up loser..
b4 u say vc had shyt numbers on shyt teams...as in the raptors and nets...hes the best nba player to ever put on a raptor jersey and the best player to ever put on a nets jersey...the only 2 teams hes gone 2 hes become the best player in the history of the franchise...i dont know what shyt numbers ur talking about...if averagin 24ppg and having a better fourth quarter efficiency in the clutch than kobe bryant-fact not opinion- is shyt 2 u then i really dont know wat 2 explain 2 u ne more lol
yes VC is a solid player but no where near Kobe as Kobe is a LEGEND. 1 of the greatest players ever to play. VC will have a nice career but will sadly be forgotten or just remembered for his dunk contest win in 2000 hahahaha
thats wat the typical fake nba fans tend 2 think bcz they just believe what they hear rather than actually watch the games...i agree with u on one thing vc is a forgotten nba all star even the dumbass coaches have forgotten about him...vc is a great player and a LEGEND...ill admit kobe is a better player and has more determination than vc...
however im trying to make the point that although kobe bryant is a GREAT player he has been MUCH LUCKIER 2 have a great supporting cast and have the chance 2 win championships whereas players such as vc have not...
ok since Kobe is so lucky....VC now has his oppurtunity this year right?? he has Dwight Howard the best center in the NBA today. so no more excuses for you and VC he must win the title because he has the pieces now right??? Kobe has Pau and VC has Dwight, lets see how they do....but dont count on it!!
yea we will c and oh yea u forgot 2 mention that kobe has pau and artest and fisher LOL but yes im not actually making excuses as of right now it is the truth but if vc does not win this year and i defend him THEN it will b an excuse since this is his first chance 2 actually win it all but yes we will c wat happens...
not to mention on both teams vc was on, he was the focus of the defense, he basically played 1on5 most of the team especially in toronto. give vc another person to draw defenders away, his career would be different
@WushuDude13 I'm back and guess what? LAKERS BACK TO BACK. and what happened to VC? he has his BIG MAN and still couldn't get it done. You saw him ashamed as shit because they were bounced in the 2nd round hahaha.
btw why are you complaining about Kobe on a Kobe video. Go watch Vince videos you loser. haha its sucks to be you, you are a AI and Carter fan and they have never won anything and never will. unlike me I am a Kobe fan and will love the next 5-10 years when Kobe will add titles and add to his legacy,
garnett was nowhere alone ray was nowhere alone pierce was nowhere alone...they all came together and bam-championship...iverson is not my favourite player i jus mentioned him however i am a vc fan and he hasnt had a legit supporting cast throughout his career...his new coach stan van gundy also agrees on that statement lol and im too mature 2 finish my post wit a bunch of cursing jus 2 try 2 get my point acorss lol so imma jus tell u 2 read my posts slowllyy and understand wat ur reading..aha
Everyone misses no matter how bad the miss is everyone does it...
you expect the best players to make every shot?
It's been established that one on one Kobe is the best player in the league! No pick & rolls, No Help defense, No slides, No Double Teams and especially no timeouts to regain stamina! no one can stop him...
Now, teams are a different story! They are all great players and great players make great plays on defense every now and then! it happens...
I'd take this kobe over today's kobe anyday...at least this kobe still has a killer instinct to destroy every team he plays....and he could play defense....
haha...where did that theory come from?....i'd say his defense back then was 10X better back then than now because he was quicker back then.....
I remember analysts sayin Kobe was one of the only defenders to shut down Allen Iverson in 2001.....just look at Kobe's defense vids and u'll know what i mean....lol...
if that's a shutdown, I'd hate to see the opposite!
Kobe shut Vince down... got a couple of lucky shots on him but didn't get into the paint and kobe locked him up when it mattered the most! CRUNCH TIME!
vince could have been the best player because when he was drafted n went to the raptors he was the star and possesed the ability to shoot and dunk on you and kobe wasn't as good and barely got any minutes but kobe worked on his game while vince just stopped caring that is why vince lost my respect as a fan
Man I used to love Vince game so much when he was with magic but like you said he didn't work harder to get better. I have also lost the love for his game.
@sauce556 Fisher and Horry r jst role players thats one....If Kobe was in a wack team like dat his numbers would be un believable he would probably average 31 plus for his career and he would still probably get a ring or 2 because the team would build around him....Vince is the greatest Dunker of all-time but Kobe is obviously the better player no questions asked
@lilzack24 u forgot to reply to the part where i said shaq lol--and now lets not forget pau gasol who hes had for abouttt wat 4 seasons? vince had orlando for one and a half seasons---which didnt work out lol kobe had shaq for the early part of his career-while vince had those previously mentioned in toronto--then kobe played wit scrubs for 3 years and got pau in 07--while vince was playing with j kidd--and that richard jefferson guy was ok every now n then (no sarcasm) and the rest scrubs.
@lilzack24 all in all there is no comparison of vince carters TEAMS to that of kobe bryants TEAMS throughout their careers lol that is a joke in itself--comparing each starting pg, sg, sf, pf, and c that vince has had and for the length that hes had is a joke in comparing all those starting and bench positions to kobes teammates lol again im not discrediting kobe--hes a great player with great work ethic--but c'mon even shaq said the 1 guard he wants to play with is vince.
@sauce556 Yea your right obviously Kobe had better teams most of his career...but Kobe also played with bad teams from 2004-2008 and he was putting up monster numbers just to keep his team in games just because he was in the West he got elimintated in the first round...But Vince went to a New Jersey team that went to the finals 2 straight years and when he got there they couldnt get past the first round are u kidding me? Vince was talented but he was lazy kind of like T-Mac
@lilzack24 once again--sigh--once again--by the time vince got there--nj had jason collins C, rj as SF, nenad krstic at PF for 1 and a half years lol..followed by mikki moore in 07--and no bench watsoever--lawrence frank got league notices in both 06 and 07 to start playing his bench more--when they went to the finals 2 str8 years--they had a PRIME kenyon martin at PF--kerry kittles, keith van horn, and some bench supporters...get your facts straight people are YOU kidding ME ? lol
@sauce556 C'moooon AI took a shitty ass Philly to the finals and handed the Lakers there only loss in the whole playoffs in 2000...Kistic was nice before those injuries, Richard Jefferson was scoring atleast 20 every night and Kidd was still the best PG...They should have atleast advanced to to the second round in the east because the east is weak...If Gilbert Arenas can get his team past the first round VC shouldve done it
@lilzack24 actually the nets always went to the second round xcept in their 8-1 matchup vs the heat in 05 when they got swept--because they suckt that hard as a team and rj was complete garbage thta series and vc avged 26.8, 8.5 & 5.8 lol in 06 the nets beat the pacers in the first round and lost to the heat in 5 games when vince avged 29.6, 7 & 5.3....in 07 the nets advanced to 2nd round past toronto and lost to the cavs in 6--vc avged 22.3, 6.8 & 5.3 -- lol
@sauce556 lol derek fisher an robert horry both fucking suck and shot at a low percentage.. Only reason anybody knows them is because they tend to hit big shots.. Other then that they are failboat everyone knows in the shaq era Kobe and Shaq put the lakers on their back.
@Power2People59 lil zack also stopped responding to me after i listed vince's playoff stat line averages POST raptors in 05 06 and 07 with the nets lol c'mon really...really...
@sauce556 vince carter was never that great..when you think vince carter you think a good dunker.. thats about it... Ur the only one here trying to defend carter when he has been inconsistent his whole career an never done shit in the playoffs..
@sauce556 vince carter's career playoff stats is 23.3 points per game 41 PERCENT SHOOTING and 31 percent from downtown.. are you serious??? LOL...thats almost comparable to fucking stephen jackson.. Name me one GOOD Allstar player that averages crappy numbers like that.. Vince Carter is not praised upon for a reason. Hes sucked it up in big playoff moments.. Never made it anywhere in the playoffs. End of the story... wack playoff stats and no ring is what you see when you look up vince.
@Power2People59 (lol) if your going to incorporate his career stats as opposed to his prime playoff year stats--dont forget to incorporate what he had to work with lol in toronto--he didnt have a shaq or any other noteable players to spread the floor for him--struggled in his 1rst playoff appearance in 2000--but still managed various 30, 40, and a 50 point game in his duel with iverson in 2001--
@Power2People59 then the same with new jersey--jefferon suckt ass and kidds not a scorer--with nenad at pf and jason collins at c--yea i know right..who? lol the opposing teams defensive scheme towards vince's teams has always been to double and triple vince--he still managed again--various 30 and 40 point games against the pacers heat and raptors in 06 and 07 what brings down his playoff percentages is his first year with toronto--the 2nd round in 07 vs cavs--and orlando (yes ECF he choked)
@sauce556 Hes been in the league 13 years about as long as Kobe Bryant and he is playing like an old fucking man yet Kobe bryant is still a top 5 mvp candidate.. Tim Duncan, Dirk... both of them have been in the league as long as Vince and they still put up good numbers.. But poor ol vincy hes being tossed around from orlando to phoenix and has just been straight sucking it up for the past 4-5 years... tell me why this is?? Hes old already? No he just sucks ass.
@sauce556 thats all you got?? Vince never had a good big man hence he never did shit in his career. on top of him sucking ass.. Idiot every successful team has to have some sort of duo one man can't win evverything. L2basketball.
@Power2People59 ---thank u idiot--one man cant win everything--he had a year and a half with a dominant big man--in his 13 year career lol and forget just the big man--he had one and a haf years with an actual contender and a good all around team in his 13 year nba career--idiot
@sauce556 he had jason kidd a triple double machine and many other roleplayers.. had he not sucked so bad he might of went somewhere worth mentioning.. lmao
@Power2People59 who?? all ne1 ever says is he had jason kidd--typical ignorance--y did u not name his role players--and btw when u do--be sure to check all of their stats--rj and j kidd included--in the playoffs in 05 06 and 07 as well as during the regular season those 3 years--name ne else that avged 20 plus points in any playoff series during his time in jersey--lol typical ignorance--typical--worse part about it--cant fight it lol
@amunrahII lol...smh...kobe had shaq from 1996-2004 (8 years) and then gasol from 2008-2011 thus far (3 years)--altogether in his career having played with a top 50 greatest player for 8 years and another future hof big man for 3 years so far---vince carter played with dwight howard -(less of an offensive scoring machine than both shaq ((in his prime with kobe--comparing is a joke LOL)) and gasol now)--from 2010-midway through the 2011 season--for a total of 1 and 1/2 seasons--now compare that.
@amunrahII if u cant do the math--kobe played with a great big man for 11 years of his NBA career--and vince has played with a great big man for 1 & 1/2 years--also considerign that period was in his 11th-12th season and not 1rst-2nd LOL
@sauce556 Pau Gasoft isn't great he's very good lol greatness is really over used. but a player should be considerably better in their 11th yr then their first, what he did in Orlando was choke put Kobe in that role and Orlando sweeps through out.
@amunrahII once again--vince was not with that team from his 1rst and 2nd year through to his 11th lol--kobe is established--and as an avid vince carter fan--and an avid NBA fan--I know X's and O's of basketball--& the worst thing to happen to the orlando magic organization is a coach that crumbles under pressure--and the worst thing to happen to vince carter in his NBA career is jameer nelson--in the same way t-mac didnt want to be in vcs shadow in TO, jameer wanted the spotlight-and didnt pass
@amunrahII somehow-when i make a bunch of vaid points--respondents tend to not respond to half of em lol i say if vince was drafted to LA and kobe drafted to TO--vince would have won the 3 rings with shaq and would be the talk of the league--but ofcourse that scenario has nothing at all to do with luck and the players your surrounded by as opposed to work ethic lol
@sauce556 yea Maybe they win 3 only maybe what ppl fail to realize is early on Kobe was the point guard and 2 guard also he was maybe the best perimeter defender at the time. Vince has never been a solid defender. also Kobe in TO averages at least 35 per after his second yr until his 11th if he reasures TMac to stay be his 3 they win a few ring up there
the video would have been way better if it showed all of kobe and vince's made shots and defensive plays. It would have looked more like a battle the way it was.
Speaking of Vince Carter... the people who say that Lebron is better than Kobe are the same fools that said Carter was the next Jordan. Lebron = Dominic Wilkins... Kobe = Jordan. Athletics can only get you so far.
about the Kobe vs LeBron debate... LeBron = bigger, stronger, faster, higher leaper, more explosive. Kobe = better. See the diff? MAYBE LeBron's gonna be better than Kobe, but NOW, there's no question. If LeBron fans are gonna use stats to backup their argument, then Im gonna use stats as well and say Oscar Robertson was the best player in the history of the NBA. But of course now, we all know that's not true...
kobe won 3 rings because of shaq, without.. he loose with gasol and odom, maybe he want melo, amare stoudemire to win a title. kobe just this season start to be a true leader, kobe is 30, lebron was the leader from the 1st game in nba, when he was 18. kobe at 18 was a puppie. lebron has a better mind, kobe still now force many many shoot, he hate pass the ball. lebron made 30+ 7.2. stats, stats are not everyting, but kobe can't made 30 or more points and 7, or 6 ass for game.mean something?
kobe is the best. Vince could have been the best if he wasnt soo lazy
bumtumlum 3 months ago
@bumtumlum dont compare vince carter to kobe bryant, vince carter is not one of the top 10 shooting guards to play the game let alone best all round player
gottgaame 3 months ago
oh thats kobe noy shaq my fault
BigButterybeefslinga 5 months ago
since when does shaq have 7 rebounds shaq was probably dissapointed at himself with only 7 rebounds
BigButterybeefslinga 5 months ago
lmao, he didn't include Carter's game saving block against Kobe before the end of regulation!
ChlIsAwesome 5 months ago
I bet Mark Jackson wasnt saying mama there goes that man lol
lilzack24 6 months ago
hella wrong info given by the comentators.. Kobe was drafted 13th at the age of 17.. not 14th and 18.
locd2death 7 months ago
were they huge rivals back in the days
trezeguet4ever 7 months ago
kobe on his way to title number 2 we all appriciate kobe even more after watching that faggot ass lebron gay give up kobe was doing what those fags wade and lebron gay are doing now 10 years ago he makes both of them look like faggots with all his accomplishments 5 rings vs 1 and 0 kobes the man the closet thing to mj fuck the other 2 go lakers get number 6
GreatkingAlexander 7 months ago
kobe on his way to title number 2
GreatkingAlexander 7 months ago
Kobe has scored on both curry's now. Wow i didn't know he still played when kobe played.
nitotech 8 months ago
wow i miss this rivalry. i dont like the rivalry between bryant and james. kobe and vince is the best rivalry. sad that vince become weak now.
yopepoy 9 months ago
Kobe is an underrated defender
youontwantnonnadis 9 months ago
/watch?v=pmu5x8ublUk&feature=related
how about that??? :P
orestisDisturbed 11 months ago
I miss old Raptors and Kobe´s afro :-(
VinceKrat 1 year ago 4
two great players going back and forth. This is why i hate the lebron and kobe rivalry. Its boring and it jus plain sucks.
eastsider251 1 year ago
"and how much better he could get, it's a little bit scary." Damn this nigga was right, now it's just scary that he's only 32.
Indianbrkdncer 1 year ago
Man these were the days. I mean the game is good now still cause the lakers are winning again. But as far as players man. Kobe, A.I, Vince, Fuckin Tracy Mcgrady a healthy T mac, Miss these days.
RTR9 1 year ago 2
loll ppl actually compare CV to kobe? loll thats hilirious
koby24 1 year ago
DAMN. I FORGOT HOW NASTY KOBE WAS BACK THEN.
klasicktha1 1 year ago
@klasicktha1 he still nasty, only thing back then he played of energy and skill, now he plays of intelligence and expirence
arkbishopbonkerboy 11 months ago
This laker fan forgot to cut out one Vince highlight..9:52 Vince jumps higher than kobe and knocks the ball to Oakley!!!
thepakibye 1 year ago
@thepakibye pretty irrelevent because he didnt get a shot off
shashshsh 1 year ago
lol this guy didnt show kobe getting blocked by vince to extend it to overtime
julianisrice 1 year ago
@julianisrice but he did show Kobe schooling VC up and down the court for 40 points. :)
reneperezz 1 year ago
carter is wayy more athletic then kobe but that doesnt mean hes better look kobe came in before carter still goin strong carter came in after prolly gonna leave before kobe
jaron312 1 year ago
kobe also had ron harper? lol vince doesnt have any help.
lingatravend 1 year ago
lol at the people complaining about the video. get VC's balls out your mouth. it's done by a LAKER fan. what the hell did you expect? toronto highlights? every person on youtube who uploads highlight clips of their fave teams does this. you want fair highlights that show both teams making shots? watch some ESPN.
erik24MVP 1 year ago 6
wtf wat a kobe addict he only has kobe videos. and look fag if it says raptors vs lakers u dont put lebron james in the video u fag y dont u look at kobes first 4 years 19.9 pts per game with shaq thats very convincing
the1sin 1 year ago
@the1sin lol maybe cuz he likes Kobe? Plenty of channels on youtube that revolve around one player. I don't see how this is a problem for you.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
@AJVersatility19 more like u ppl are kobe fans and know nothing
the1sin 1 year ago
@the1sin Of course we know nothing. You are so right sir.
AJVersatility19 1 year ago
kobe is better than michael jordan
actoman1 1 year ago
@actoman1 ur fckin gay kobe will never be even the top 5 players dont compare kobe to jordan
the1sin 1 year ago
@the1sin hahahahahah idiot kobe is at least in the top 10 players all time
maximillion9701 1 year ago
i like how this vid shows the moments where kobe stops vince, but you dont' show when vince blocks kobe to take the game into OT
WushuDude13 1 year ago
vince is a great player,but he's no where near Kobes level, you could see it in the boston-orlando series,missed potential winning free throws, no defense at all and the guy got overshadowed by Reddick
charliebell01 1 year ago
sorry guys...but vince wants NO parts of a kobe bryant matchup, regardless of who has which teammates.
jagemobe 1 year ago
This should of been the finals.
dollface258 1 year ago
if vince had shaq he would have one the game and a championship
lionvclennon 1 year ago
@lionvclennon I disagree vince dosen't have kobe will or skill he aint even better than lebron
MagicJBalla21 1 year ago
@MagicJBalla21 hes better than those 2 man, he really is!
01251979acc 1 year ago
@01251979acc Really so what happen to vince in the boston series i remember this guy only had like what 4 or 5 points he wasen't a factor man please don't even start
MagicJBalla21 1 year ago
btw i cant stand that fag ass announcer Leo Rautins, it was all about the Skwirsk.
1RVBernal 1 year ago
this right here was the best Raptor squad ever, conference quarter finals, all the way to game 7 against PHI, damn i miss these years. the Raps will never get up to the level that VC brought us to, never. I was at this game, KB8 with the fro, and Shaq with hair, man i was 9 yrs old and i attended VC's summer camps every year, and his all star games. I miss that nigga man, fo real.
1RVBernal 1 year ago
KOBE BRING BACK THE FRO
flowflurry 1 year ago 4
lol this video guy is vince hater lol
muffinscousin 2 years ago 19
thanks for the video I'm, surprised no one put "Kobe blocks VC" video and they do put "VC blocks Kobe for Overtime".
5/5
Emmanuel12345metal 2 years ago
yall alll sleeping on the 2006-2007 kobe..tht was his best season..he was 2000-2005 in one wrap just needed a better squad
54Independent 2 years ago
nice vid thanks 4 sharing
TBryant20 2 years ago
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man get off kobe nuts fam. vc is a beast and is waaaaaaayyy better than kobe. the only thing carter needed was a team and now that he has it, i know he will try his hardest and he will go off with dwight. LBJVCAJ!!!!
LBJVCAJ 2 years ago
one of my favorite matchups of all ti-
i'm happy for you and i'ma let u finish, but beyonce had one of the best videos of all time.
TheAssgas 2 years ago
That was Kobe's prime as an athlete! His defense is nowhere the same now. He needs a team filled with elite players in order to smell the finals.
I'm shocked, however, that the peaking Kobe and Shaq did not handle the Carter-led Raptors with ease, and only won by three points.
Kobe played with the most dominant big man when he was 22! Carter had to wait till he's 32 in order to play with a dominant big. Talk about faith!
namiejames 2 years ago
No, Kobes prime as an athlete was in 02-03. And his D is at his prime now. He relied a lot of athletcism on D then and would get burned sometimes because he gambled a lot (hence how Oakley got that 3 off at the end) Kobes IQ on D is at his prime now. And he needs a team of elite players to smell the finals? lol APART from Pau who is an ELITE player on the Lakers? Did MJ win without Pip? Duncan without Parker.Manu.Robinson? KG without Pierce/Allen, magic without kareem? etc idiot
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago 2
Learn how to spell before you come out and say a bunch of BS! Who's Kobes?
Give me one credible source that says Kobe was in the best form in 02-03, friggin idiot! His D is in no way in his prime! Back then, he didn't allow many SG's that he guarded to score over 20. Now, last season, it happened A LOT!
Dumbass bitch!
namiejames 2 years ago
Spell? There's no spelling error you gay grammar nazi, it's youtube. what a fag..but moving on 02-03 was Kobe's best statistical season LMAO. 7 straight 40 point games, first time he was on all nba first team and all nba D. Kobe's been a regular all nba first teamer since. and credible source? try an actual laker fan here, not some gay fag who sits around and watches youtube highlights 9 years later and thinks he knows what he's talking about. haha you're fucking gay. what a moron.
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago
What, does youtube have something against spelling correctly? Another nonsense!
You're so friggin retarded that you don't even remember what you're arguing for.
You're talking about his best year as an athlete, not a scorer. What's the point telling us he had 7 straight 40 pt games?
His defense was much much better back then, when he could play behind the big daddy. You made it seemed like athleticism has nothing to do with defense. What an idiot!
namiejames 2 years ago
You guys think 00-01 Kobe. Kobe at 22 was at his athletic prime. LMAOOO hahahahaha. Kobe at 24 was at his athletic prime. He weighed 230 that season and was just bulldozing into the lane the way Lebron does now. I'm not going to even argue with you morons, laker fans know whats up. not faggots name namiejames. take care princess.
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago
No one is more moronic than you retarded dumbass here. You do not represent Lakers fans. I've met Laker fans with a lot more knowledge than you do (e.g. weight = athleticism ????) Say Hi to the smart guys !
Dont' waste my time! Go to college first and keep learning before you bark.
namiejames 2 years ago
Dude wtf is ur gay ass talking about? first u go into athletcism, then defense, then u go on about how gay u are. point being, 02-03 kobe was 230 and overpowering people in the post and in the lane, athletic prime in terms of creativity/speed/dunks, and was his PRIME as a professional athlete period physically. if you disagree then you haven't watched the lakers/kobe long enough. now go wash your vagina i smell it from here
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago
NO, dumbfuck! You went into athleticism. The whole thing began when you claimed he was more athletic in 02-03, which I do not agree. He was relentless on defense on the clip here. He had a lot more energy and athleticism to play defense.
You stupid dumbwhore doesn't even keep the argument straight!
Like I said, keep learning!
Smelling pussies or dicks (whatever suits you ) does not make you an educated basketball fan. You're friggin disgrace to the Lakers fanbase.
namiejames 2 years ago
Agree to disagree, but please be honest. How many games did you watch kobe play in 00-01 and 02-03? be completely honest. i grew up in LA and watched nearly every game start to finish. i've been clownin my last few messages, but people call me the biggest kobe homer, and i name every stat, any highlights, hell his fuckin daughters middle names and his shoe size. kobe is MY guy, i got into the NBA cuz of him and been watching him play in 97, so when some1 says 00-1>02-03 on any level = :s
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago
More importantly, how old were you when you were watching him. at that age.
I never denied of his performance in 02-03, but you can easily see in this clip that he was a relentless player with non-stop energy on both sides.
Sure, he made mistakes but that wasn't the reason why you started talking BS to me. The Kobe I saw in 2000 season was as athletic as he ever got. He might have gotten bigger and smarter since then, but again that wasn't the original point.
namiejames 2 years ago
Fair enough, but are we talking help D with Kobe roaming and making the right plays, or ONE on ONE D?
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago
But ye i fuckin live in Toronto now. And i watch games late at night on the internet shitty quality. post on laker forums, etc etc i know FUCKING KOBE. 02-03 his speed, agility, one on one D, perimeter D, career high in steals, etc etc he was a BEAST. his first step was unreal that year. it was definantly his athletic prime in every facet of the game.
xSayHiToTheBadGuyx 2 years ago
vintage kobe.
BenniexXxBravo 2 years ago
Vince was never in the same league as Kobe!!!
Vince who disappears on important playoff games!! that's why toronto ditch him! Dunks is all he'll be remembered lol.. Dunks don't win championship!
Zhorellski 2 years ago
I don't know man, Vince's stats in playoffs are actually better than in regular season. Also Kobe disappears on important playoff games too(not often, but sometimes he do), so your argument was pointless. And Vince was traded, because he wanted. I'm not fan of Kobe or Vince, just wanted to point that out.
Andresmees 2 years ago
is this the game phil jackson was talking about in the press confrence?
jrjy1023 2 years ago
what did he say???
mivado3 2 years ago
first it was kobe vs.vince..than it was kobe vs. A.I....than it was kobe vs. tmac...than it was..kobe vs. wade...and its been kobe vs. lebron the last 4 years...thats just show kobe kept up his game..and works hard...next thang u know tmac,vince,ai,and wade fell off..but wade is back again...kobe is the man!!...kobe is what u called master the game...and master the mental aspect of the game...just like jordan....kobe will be great in his late 30's like jordan was....
kobebeast24 2 years ago 4
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o yes vince..a.i..tmac...an wade were all way better than kobe back n tha day.now kobe iz at his peak....but so iz wade an wade iz way better than kobe...wade iz going 2 be better than jordan by his mid 30s he keeps playin like he iz now
littlevil420 2 years ago
Vince, TMAC and AI were never better than KOBE! WTF??? Your trippin!!!
Jaywilly24 2 years ago 4
littlevil420...Wade is no doubt a Great Player...One of the best Ever...But How do you figure that Wade is better than KOBE?...Kobe can match up with Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Ron ARTEST, Kenyon Martin, and Paul Pierce and hold these guys who are BIGGER in Check...CAN WADE HOLD THESE GUYS?....Answer...NO...Sorry dude but Wade is no where near in KOBE'S League...But Wade is GREAT...No Doubt about that.
bretcarr2001 2 years ago 2
Over the years, plenty of people have created multiple "Who's Better?" contest with Kobe involved in a lot of them. Kobe has won many of those matchups BUT Wade and McGrady are definitely up there with him. Carter had unlimited potential to be on Kobe's but for whatever reason, it wasn't meant to be.
When McGrady's healthy, he's just as deadly as Kobe. Wade (my favorite player) has, without question, proved himself and Wade will be the best shooting guard in the game when Kobe retires.
CLacy90 2 years ago 3
CLacy90...Kobe, Wade, McGrady are all Superb players...you can't go wrong with these guys provided they're healthy-If Any of these players faced the CUPCAKE Competition that Jordan played against-ALL 3 of these guys would Break Every Scoring Record Imaginable-Kobe, Wade, McGrady play against and face far superior competition on a night in night out basis than JORDAN EVER FACED HIS WHOLE ENTIRE CAREER-Let Kobe face Starks, Ehlo, Byron Russell, Glenn Rice..Kobe would be the ALLTIME SCORER ALREADY
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
I won't argue that. I believe if Kobe came first before Jordan, he would have revolutionized the game just like Jordan. But history has been made, Jordan is Jordan and Kobe is Kobe.
I saw what you said to littlevil420. I will point out that Wade is a better defensive player than Kobe. Not taking anything away from Kobe (he is a great defensive player) but this season Wade finished with over 100 blocks and 100 steals and he's barely 6' 4". Kobe hasn't done that.
CLacy90 2 years ago
kobebeast24...Jordan never played against the level of competition that Kobe faces on a night in night out basis...JORDAN FACED SO MANY CUPCAKES THAT HE NOW OWNS HOSTESS...JORDAN FACED SO MANY CUPCAKES THAT HE OUGHT TO BE DEAD FROM DIABETES...LOL...Jordan faced Chumps like Craig Ehlo, Starks, Byron Russell, Jeff Hornacek, Rory Sparrow, Bimbo Coles, Glenn Rice, Tony Campbell, Mike Mcgee...
KOBE Matches up with Hall of Famers like Lebron, Wade, Iverson, McGrady, V. Carter, P. Pierce, R. Allen,
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
Chea right Jordan had to face Isiah Thomas,Dumars,Magic,Bird,Clyde,Dr J,Olajuwon,Ewing,Robinson,Rodman & many mo hall of famers in his hay-day & da league wuz alot tougher back then & remember Jordan avg 20 a game wit da Wizards & he was 40 so picture how much he'll avg in todays league in his prime.
marqymarq1 2 years ago
marqymarq1...Dude Learn the game of Basketball before you post Stupid AS$ Comments...Let's go through this Shall we..Jordan was a Shooting Guard...Magic played POINT GUARD not Shooting Guard...Jordan NEVER EVER MATCHED UP WITH MAGIC...Pippen Matched up with Magic while Jordan matched up with Byron "CUPCAKE" Scott and Tony Smith...Bird and Dr. J played FORWARD not SHOOTING GUARD and Hakeem, Ewing, and Robinson Played CENTER...Jordan never matched up with these players players-only Drex and Dumars
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
I Know da positions they played & I kno bball trust me I do's dis but Jordan faced way more physical defenses than Kobe, ever heard of the Jordan rules, u see the 90s knicks, u see the 90s Cavs & other teams, da league was way more physical back then & Jordan used to get his ass whooped faithfully. Why u think they stop hand checking, defensive 3 seconds & etc. So dont try to come @ me wit dat on youtube. Oh and like I said Jordan avg 20 a game wit da Wizards @ 40 so picture what he'll do @ 25.
marqymarq1 2 years ago
marqymarq1...Here we go with this crap about Jordan facing more physical defenses-First off the Excessive Foul/No Hand Check Rules were implemented from 1990-1993-DURING THE JORDAN ERA-Jordan played under the same conditions as Kobe-Second off Kobe faces zones and zone trap defenses where teams can double and triple Kobe which would've been illegal when Jordan played-Being handchecked 1 on 1 by some cupcake like Starks or Ehlo is nothing compared to being Tripled by Pierce, Allen, and Garnett
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
just because they play a certain position don't mean they faced the opponent of the same. It's about who matches up better.
LmOnAy 2 years ago
LmOnAy...No..Pippen did all the dirty working defending the opponents best players while Jordan defended Cupcakes like Randy Wittman, John "ex-CBA" Starks, Byron 'I can't score' Russell, Jeff Lamp, Jeff Hornacek, Reggie "Whack' Williams, Tony Smith, Danny "11 points a game" Ainge, Mike McGee, Tony Campbell, Sasha "Who the phuck is that" Danilovic, and Rex "Whack" Chapman....Jordan matched up with more Cupcakes than Hostess...Give me a break
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
i was talking about matchups, you are not obligated to defend your position. Like nowadays kobe gaurds rondo to preserve energy and fisher gaurds ray allen who is just catch and shoot. I wasn't backing up MJ or anything i was just saying in basketball there is flexibility. give me a break.
LmOnAy 2 years ago
kobe also had shaq which whom we won 3 titles and then pau with whom hes won 1 and now he has ron artest to go along with that...the big men that a.i. and vc have played with r not nearly as good as those kobe has played with...kobe has never won a championship without an all star big man...where was he without pau gasol?? couldnt even get past the first round...not denying that kobe is a great great player..but he needs a great big man to win
sauce556 2 years ago
every title team needs a great big man u dumbass.
reneperezz 2 years ago
exactly my point u fuken idiot...kobe has had the opportunity to play with great big men whereas vince carter and allen iverson have not so im trying to make a point on their behalf against kobe given kobe has 4 rings and ppl think vc and ai havent won just bcz kobe is more capable which is not entirely true u fuken dumbass
sauce556 2 years ago
didn't TMac have yao ming the last couple of years and what happened there?
didnt Allen Iverson have a solid Piston team at the beginning of last season when he was traded? and what happened, he destoyed them so shut the fuck up.
Kobe can win when he has the tools and players and the other wannabes CAN'T you motherfucker!
reneperezz 2 years ago
didnt t-mac have yao ming whos injured every fuken season and is not as good as pau gasol or shaquille o neal in there primes wat happened there?
isnt rasheed wallace not really a center but a power forward and even then also not as good as shaq in his prime wat happened there??
didnt vince carter have THEE ABSOLUTE PRIVELAGE of playing with centers who r 2 of the top 50 players of all time(SARCASM)- antonio davis in toronto and jason collins in new jersey??
sauce556 2 years ago
i need a response plz lol
sauce556 2 years ago
my response is that you are a whiney little bitch who is complaining about how much Kobe is lucky...
where was Pau when he was with the Grizzlies?? I think he needs Kobe more than Kobe needs him. Kobe was almost if not as big a part of the 3peat years with Shaq and Shaq will admit that.
reneperezz 2 years ago
moron u havent responded 2 ne thing i said regarding t-mac u havent responded 2 ne thing i said about iverson or ne thing i said about vc so how about u respond 2 that first ive made another point alrdy wats urs?? pau needs kobe more than kobe needs him? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard...thats like saying garnett and ray allen need paul pierce more than he needs them LOL
sauce556 2 years ago
i am right. quit arguing with me Kobe is wayyyy better than VC and you know it. look at the numbers he put up when he had a shitty team and look at the shitty numbers VC put up when he had a shitty team.
and so now that VC is with Howard u suppose they should win right?? welll they won't so dont get your fucking hopes up loser..
reneperezz 2 years ago
b4 u say vc had shyt numbers on shyt teams...as in the raptors and nets...hes the best nba player to ever put on a raptor jersey and the best player to ever put on a nets jersey...the only 2 teams hes gone 2 hes become the best player in the history of the franchise...i dont know what shyt numbers ur talking about...if averagin 24ppg and having a better fourth quarter efficiency in the clutch than kobe bryant-fact not opinion- is shyt 2 u then i really dont know wat 2 explain 2 u ne more lol
sauce556 2 years ago
yes VC is a solid player but no where near Kobe as Kobe is a LEGEND. 1 of the greatest players ever to play. VC will have a nice career but will sadly be forgotten or just remembered for his dunk contest win in 2000 hahahaha
reneperezz 2 years ago
thats wat the typical fake nba fans tend 2 think bcz they just believe what they hear rather than actually watch the games...i agree with u on one thing vc is a forgotten nba all star even the dumbass coaches have forgotten about him...vc is a great player and a LEGEND...ill admit kobe is a better player and has more determination than vc...
sauce556 2 years ago 3
however im trying to make the point that although kobe bryant is a GREAT player he has been MUCH LUCKIER 2 have a great supporting cast and have the chance 2 win championships whereas players such as vc have not...
sauce556 2 years ago
ok since Kobe is so lucky....VC now has his oppurtunity this year right?? he has Dwight Howard the best center in the NBA today. so no more excuses for you and VC he must win the title because he has the pieces now right??? Kobe has Pau and VC has Dwight, lets see how they do....but dont count on it!!
reneperezz 2 years ago 2
yea we will c and oh yea u forgot 2 mention that kobe has pau and artest and fisher LOL but yes im not actually making excuses as of right now it is the truth but if vc does not win this year and i defend him THEN it will b an excuse since this is his first chance 2 actually win it all but yes we will c wat happens...
sauce556 2 years ago
not to mention on both teams vc was on, he was the focus of the defense, he basically played 1on5 most of the team especially in toronto. give vc another person to draw defenders away, his career would be different
WushuDude13 2 years ago 4
@WushuDude13 I'm back and guess what? LAKERS BACK TO BACK. and what happened to VC? he has his BIG MAN and still couldn't get it done. You saw him ashamed as shit because they were bounced in the 2nd round hahaha.
reneperezz 1 year ago
btw why are you complaining about Kobe on a Kobe video. Go watch Vince videos you loser. haha its sucks to be you, you are a AI and Carter fan and they have never won anything and never will. unlike me I am a Kobe fan and will love the next 5-10 years when Kobe will add titles and add to his legacy,
LOVE IT, YOU FAGGOT!
reneperezz 2 years ago
garnett was nowhere alone ray was nowhere alone pierce was nowhere alone...they all came together and bam-championship...iverson is not my favourite player i jus mentioned him however i am a vc fan and he hasnt had a legit supporting cast throughout his career...his new coach stan van gundy also agrees on that statement lol and im too mature 2 finish my post wit a bunch of cursing jus 2 try 2 get my point acorss lol so imma jus tell u 2 read my posts slowllyy and understand wat ur reading..aha
sauce556 2 years ago
kobes fro haha
RTR9 2 years ago
back when vince was still in the same league as kobe
WushuDude13 2 years ago 4
LOL at 2:50. "Rider is on Carter"
ckl034 2 years ago
Vince carter was just rookie :S this is normal
YasinElik 2 years ago
he wasnt a rookie here
gbm420 2 years ago 3
3rd year there bud.
billodob 2 years ago 3
who is this!!!!!kobe??
kobe is thin here!!
yvesttt 2 years ago
I remember when the big debate in the NBA was "Kobe vs. Vince - who will be the next Jordan?"
Now it's not even close, Vince wishes he could be half the player Kobe is.
IsaacDelarge 3 years ago
over statement
sauce556 2 years ago
See whenever someone post Kobe vids they always show the other gaurds missed shots and none of Kobes.Kobe has some of the ugliest misses ive seen.
Now is Kobe a beast but so is Vince well at least he was.
RohoicRamz94 3 years ago
They are both great players!
Everyone misses no matter how bad the miss is everyone does it...
you expect the best players to make every shot?
It's been established that one on one Kobe is the best player in the league! No pick & rolls, No Help defense, No slides, No Double Teams and especially no timeouts to regain stamina! no one can stop him...
Now, teams are a different story! They are all great players and great players make great plays on defense every now and then! it happens...
CJSLICK101 3 years ago
I miss those days dudes! The Vancouver Grizzlies lol
Big ups to the guys who played in Vancouver and Memphis!
CJSLICK101 3 years ago
I love Vince but i'll admit that Kobe is a better player. Carter is still a good player tho
AciddReign 3 years ago 4
I'd take this kobe over today's kobe anyday...at least this kobe still has a killer instinct to destroy every team he plays....and he could play defense....
oneman91 3 years ago
that is so true, he was so explosive back then... besides this vid knocks down theory that Kobe started to play defense in the last couple of years
T0mmyPL 3 years ago
haha...where did that theory come from?....i'd say his defense back then was 10X better back then than now because he was quicker back then.....
I remember analysts sayin Kobe was one of the only defenders to shut down Allen Iverson in 2001.....just look at Kobe's defense vids and u'll know what i mean....lol...
oneman91 3 years ago
vince just a dunker. thats it
gtsko88 3 years ago
He just shut Kobe down I guess his defense got better or Kobe has gotten worse!
RohoicRamz94 3 years ago
Shut down kobe??
He scored 40 points on 15/26 shooting...
if that's a shutdown, I'd hate to see the opposite!
Kobe shut Vince down... got a couple of lucky shots on him but didn't get into the paint and kobe locked him up when it mattered the most! CRUNCH TIME!
CJSLICK101 3 years ago
Not in this game I was talking about this year.
RohoicRamz94 3 years ago
ur an idiot...thats it...i guess all uve seen is his dunk contest lol
sauce556 2 years ago
vince could have been the best player because when he was drafted n went to the raptors he was the star and possesed the ability to shoot and dunk on you and kobe wasn't as good and barely got any minutes but kobe worked on his game while vince just stopped caring that is why vince lost my respect as a fan
canibus1000 3 years ago
Man I used to love Vince game so much when he was with magic but like you said he didn't work harder to get better. I have also lost the love for his game.
pnjabimunda8 3 years ago
more like kobe had shaq, derek fisher, robert horry and other good players....while vc had antonio davis, morris peterson...jerome williams...etc
sauce556 2 years ago 9
@sauce556 Fisher and Horry r jst role players thats one....If Kobe was in a wack team like dat his numbers would be un believable he would probably average 31 plus for his career and he would still probably get a ring or 2 because the team would build around him....Vince is the greatest Dunker of all-time but Kobe is obviously the better player no questions asked
lilzack24 6 months ago
@lilzack24 u forgot to reply to the part where i said shaq lol--and now lets not forget pau gasol who hes had for abouttt wat 4 seasons? vince had orlando for one and a half seasons---which didnt work out lol kobe had shaq for the early part of his career-while vince had those previously mentioned in toronto--then kobe played wit scrubs for 3 years and got pau in 07--while vince was playing with j kidd--and that richard jefferson guy was ok every now n then (no sarcasm) and the rest scrubs.
sauce556 6 months ago
@lilzack24 all in all there is no comparison of vince carters TEAMS to that of kobe bryants TEAMS throughout their careers lol that is a joke in itself--comparing each starting pg, sg, sf, pf, and c that vince has had and for the length that hes had is a joke in comparing all those starting and bench positions to kobes teammates lol again im not discrediting kobe--hes a great player with great work ethic--but c'mon even shaq said the 1 guard he wants to play with is vince.
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 Yea your right obviously Kobe had better teams most of his career...but Kobe also played with bad teams from 2004-2008 and he was putting up monster numbers just to keep his team in games just because he was in the West he got elimintated in the first round...But Vince went to a New Jersey team that went to the finals 2 straight years and when he got there they couldnt get past the first round are u kidding me? Vince was talented but he was lazy kind of like T-Mac
lilzack24 6 months ago
@lilzack24 once again--sigh--once again--by the time vince got there--nj had jason collins C, rj as SF, nenad krstic at PF for 1 and a half years lol..followed by mikki moore in 07--and no bench watsoever--lawrence frank got league notices in both 06 and 07 to start playing his bench more--when they went to the finals 2 str8 years--they had a PRIME kenyon martin at PF--kerry kittles, keith van horn, and some bench supporters...get your facts straight people are YOU kidding ME ? lol
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 C'moooon AI took a shitty ass Philly to the finals and handed the Lakers there only loss in the whole playoffs in 2000...Kistic was nice before those injuries, Richard Jefferson was scoring atleast 20 every night and Kidd was still the best PG...They should have atleast advanced to to the second round in the east because the east is weak...If Gilbert Arenas can get his team past the first round VC shouldve done it
lilzack24 6 months ago
@lilzack24 actually the nets always went to the second round xcept in their 8-1 matchup vs the heat in 05 when they got swept--because they suckt that hard as a team and rj was complete garbage thta series and vc avged 26.8, 8.5 & 5.8 lol in 06 the nets beat the pacers in the first round and lost to the heat in 5 games when vince avged 29.6, 7 & 5.3....in 07 the nets advanced to 2nd round past toronto and lost to the cavs in 6--vc avged 22.3, 6.8 & 5.3 -- lol
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 lol derek fisher an robert horry both fucking suck and shot at a low percentage.. Only reason anybody knows them is because they tend to hit big shots.. Other then that they are failboat everyone knows in the shaq era Kobe and Shaq put the lakers on their back.
Power2People59 6 months ago
@Power2People59 lil zack also stopped responding to me after i listed vince's playoff stat line averages POST raptors in 05 06 and 07 with the nets lol c'mon really...really...
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 vince carter was never that great..when you think vince carter you think a good dunker.. thats about it... Ur the only one here trying to defend carter when he has been inconsistent his whole career an never done shit in the playoffs..
Power2People59 6 months ago
@Power2People59 ur an idiot lol...did u just miss all the playoff stat lines i listed? LOL what an idiot
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 vince carter's career playoff stats is 23.3 points per game 41 PERCENT SHOOTING and 31 percent from downtown.. are you serious??? LOL...thats almost comparable to fucking stephen jackson.. Name me one GOOD Allstar player that averages crappy numbers like that.. Vince Carter is not praised upon for a reason. Hes sucked it up in big playoff moments.. Never made it anywhere in the playoffs. End of the story... wack playoff stats and no ring is what you see when you look up vince.
Power2People59 6 months ago
@Power2People59 (lol) if your going to incorporate his career stats as opposed to his prime playoff year stats--dont forget to incorporate what he had to work with lol in toronto--he didnt have a shaq or any other noteable players to spread the floor for him--struggled in his 1rst playoff appearance in 2000--but still managed various 30, 40, and a 50 point game in his duel with iverson in 2001--
sauce556 6 months ago
@Power2People59 then the same with new jersey--jefferon suckt ass and kidds not a scorer--with nenad at pf and jason collins at c--yea i know right..who? lol the opposing teams defensive scheme towards vince's teams has always been to double and triple vince--he still managed again--various 30 and 40 point games against the pacers heat and raptors in 06 and 07 what brings down his playoff percentages is his first year with toronto--the 2nd round in 07 vs cavs--and orlando (yes ECF he choked)
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 Hes been in the league 13 years about as long as Kobe Bryant and he is playing like an old fucking man yet Kobe bryant is still a top 5 mvp candidate.. Tim Duncan, Dirk... both of them have been in the league as long as Vince and they still put up good numbers.. But poor ol vincy hes being tossed around from orlando to phoenix and has just been straight sucking it up for the past 4-5 years... tell me why this is?? Hes old already? No he just sucks ass.
Power2People59 6 months ago
@Power2People59 remember kobe has never won a playoff series in his career without a great big man--he won with shaq--and he won with gasol
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 thats all you got?? Vince never had a good big man hence he never did shit in his career. on top of him sucking ass.. Idiot every successful team has to have some sort of duo one man can't win evverything. L2basketball.
Power2People59 6 months ago
@Power2People59 ---thank u idiot--one man cant win everything--he had a year and a half with a dominant big man--in his 13 year career lol and forget just the big man--he had one and a haf years with an actual contender and a good all around team in his 13 year nba career--idiot
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 he had jason kidd a triple double machine and many other roleplayers.. had he not sucked so bad he might of went somewhere worth mentioning.. lmao
Power2People59 6 months ago
@Power2People59 who?? all ne1 ever says is he had jason kidd--typical ignorance--y did u not name his role players--and btw when u do--be sure to check all of their stats--rj and j kidd included--in the playoffs in 05 06 and 07 as well as during the regular season those 3 years--name ne else that avged 20 plus points in any playoff series during his time in jersey--lol typical ignorance--typical--worse part about it--cant fight it lol
sauce556 6 months ago
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sauce556 6 months ago
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@Power2People59 dont forget his bench--lamar odom would be a starting sf/pf and a 2nd scoring option on vince's teams in his first 10 years LOL
sauce556 6 months ago
@sauce556 Vince had Dwight Howard who's way better than Gasoft and still sucked
amunrahII 3 months ago
@amunrahII lol...smh...kobe had shaq from 1996-2004 (8 years) and then gasol from 2008-2011 thus far (3 years)--altogether in his career having played with a top 50 greatest player for 8 years and another future hof big man for 3 years so far---vince carter played with dwight howard -(less of an offensive scoring machine than both shaq ((in his prime with kobe--comparing is a joke LOL)) and gasol now)--from 2010-midway through the 2011 season--for a total of 1 and 1/2 seasons--now compare that.
sauce556 3 months ago
@amunrahII if u cant do the math--kobe played with a great big man for 11 years of his NBA career--and vince has played with a great big man for 1 & 1/2 years--also considerign that period was in his 11th-12th season and not 1rst-2nd LOL
sauce556 3 months ago
@sauce556 Pau Gasoft isn't great he's very good lol greatness is really over used. but a player should be considerably better in their 11th yr then their first, what he did in Orlando was choke put Kobe in that role and Orlando sweeps through out.
amunrahII 3 months ago
@amunrahII once again--vince was not with that team from his 1rst and 2nd year through to his 11th lol--kobe is established--and as an avid vince carter fan--and an avid NBA fan--I know X's and O's of basketball--& the worst thing to happen to the orlando magic organization is a coach that crumbles under pressure--and the worst thing to happen to vince carter in his NBA career is jameer nelson--in the same way t-mac didnt want to be in vcs shadow in TO, jameer wanted the spotlight-and didnt pass
sauce556 3 months ago
@amunrahII somehow-when i make a bunch of vaid points--respondents tend to not respond to half of em lol i say if vince was drafted to LA and kobe drafted to TO--vince would have won the 3 rings with shaq and would be the talk of the league--but ofcourse that scenario has nothing at all to do with luck and the players your surrounded by as opposed to work ethic lol
sauce556 3 months ago
@sauce556 yea Maybe they win 3 only maybe what ppl fail to realize is early on Kobe was the point guard and 2 guard also he was maybe the best perimeter defender at the time. Vince has never been a solid defender. also Kobe in TO averages at least 35 per after his second yr until his 11th if he reasures TMac to stay be his 3 they win a few ring up there
amunrahII 3 months ago
Great game. Too bad Vince isn't half as good as he was back in the day...
BIZZY
StylesBR 3 years ago
vintage kobe
ZyphonZest 3 years ago
man kobe was way more of a driver to the hoop in those days..i guess u dont notice that 8 yrs.ago.he's still exiting.
youngrizzle2003 3 years ago
the video would have been way better if it showed all of kobe and vince's made shots and defensive plays. It would have looked more like a battle the way it was.
CradlingDragons 3 years ago
nice game!
nbabasketballbigfan 3 years ago
You must neva seen MJ play dumb fuck
slimdown99 3 years ago
Have we ever saw a player as offensively skilled as Kobe play that great of defense on the other team's best player? No.
Autonomy07 3 years ago
Charles Oakley.... lmao.
Autonomy07 3 years ago
Speaking of Vince Carter... the people who say that Lebron is better than Kobe are the same fools that said Carter was the next Jordan. Lebron = Dominic Wilkins... Kobe = Jordan. Athletics can only get you so far.
Autonomy07 3 years ago
i remain n will always remain the same person that says Vince Carter is best player ever
omm85 3 years ago 2
I think you meant to type "dunker" instead of "player".
Autonomy07 3 years ago
about the Kobe vs LeBron debate... LeBron = bigger, stronger, faster, higher leaper, more explosive. Kobe = better. See the diff? MAYBE LeBron's gonna be better than Kobe, but NOW, there's no question. If LeBron fans are gonna use stats to backup their argument, then Im gonna use stats as well and say Oscar Robertson was the best player in the history of the NBA. But of course now, we all know that's not true...
ego999 3 years ago
if oscar robertson played in today's game and got those numbers, u could definitely make a case for him.
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
kobe won 3 rings because of shaq, without.. he loose with gasol and odom, maybe he want melo, amare stoudemire to win a title. kobe just this season start to be a true leader, kobe is 30, lebron was the leader from the 1st game in nba, when he was 18. kobe at 18 was a puppie. lebron has a better mind, kobe still now force many many shoot, he hate pass the ball. lebron made 30+ 7.2. stats, stats are not everyting, but kobe can't made 30 or more points and 7, or 6 ass for game.mean something?
solaryus 3 years ago
kobe is clearly better than lebron at this age
lakersnbachamps2009 3 years ago 4
lol. you idiot.
johnnycage2010 3 years ago
y isnt he he can shoot better play better defense, a better clutch shooter and ball handler
lakersnbachamps2009 3 years ago