I never would've thought but, then again i live in the country and have access to open the well. and put a pump in it. and we have a natural spring in the basement that is covered. trust me we had to pull this one out of our butts when Irene hit.
The stacking info on the box's are for shipping and short term purpises only. If people have a limited amount of room for storing water they should use empty 2 quart plastic pop bottles with screw on caps. Those bottles will not leak and can be stored under beds or where ever is a good place for you.
Maybe someone can build you a 2x4 framed shelving unit for your closet, then stack two high per shelf. That might resolve the crushed box issue. Good luck with your supply.
the nine cases high is for shipping not long term storage. i would suggest the 24 packs of bottles. you can stack them higher longer. the whole bed of nails thing. about 26 lbs per 24 pack over the 24 points of contact VS about 48 lbs per 6 gallon case with 6 points of contact. not sure how much the 6 gallon case costs but a 5 gallon jug at wal mart is about 5 bucks and those are pretty strong. either way keep prepping! :)
Better off going with 5 gallon pails. Lesson learned though. Oh, and if you're planning on digging in and staying in the house should something happen, I recommend modifying a garbage can lid to fit your rain gutter system so you can collect water in large amounts should the need arise. Just letting you know.
My bed is rated to hold 400 lbs. but I know if I remain on the bed for an abnormal amount of time, I run the risk of bedsores. Those limitations are intended for stock rotation. Retailers would lose money without quick turnaround. Cardboard absorbs moisture and loses its rigidity.
To all you jackass know-it-alls and caps-lock morons:
There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there? You know what IS common sense? It's common sense that small-minded people will always try to make themselves look better by making other people look bad.
She was trying to help other people avoid making the same mistake she made. What have YOU done to make the world a better place?
@Luthiart Bravo! I concur....but if it were not for meanies like 07CAV, I might not have a job! Thanks, 07CAV, for my job security!! But CAV, ya need to stay away from my house when the shtf because around here we shoot lame ducks and zombies.
sheesh lots of haters on this video. she was making this vid to inform other preppers not to use the milk gallons for water storage. its so simple. if you are watching this, and thought before this vid that those gallons werent a good idea, then thats great. if you didn't think/know that, even better, you learned something. relax people, theres no reason to hate.
Hint for stacking, you have to alternate the direction of the boxes every row up you go, it makes a stronger stack! Hope this helps ya, it will make the boxes last longer. Alternation will probally hold the boxes 9 high.
@me86680 Small bit of info....you spelled preparation wrong.....another know it all. "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". Another meanie bites themselves in their own butt.;
always stack in rows no less than 2 deep... and you must stack in a criss cross (i.e., bottom level box ends face north and south, 2nd level of boxes face East to West - rinse repeat) for even weight distribution..might also want to rotate the boxes every two months to 1) inspect the integrity of the containers, and 2) to identify/ prevent the cardboard boxes from crushing under the wight.... FYI Gatorade boxes (for any size containers) are some of the sturdiest boxes known to man.
You can call the companies customers service and ask for the "pallet pattern" for that item. They should be able to email or fax it to you. If they don't want to give you the info tell them you're a church volunteer with a lot of "their" product to stack and you're concerned about safety. If no success, ask to speak to a packaging engineer. This should work for almost any food company. Hope this helps!
Stacking 101, alternate direction of heavy boxed items. I stack Walmart brand distilled H2O (similar to your boxes) five high for my hurricane prep and I have never had one leak/break/burst. Usually the best way to stack these items is to check how the store receives them on the pallet. The manufacturers will have done it to preserve the integrity of their product.
I would also think that the "don't stack over 9 boxes high" would have to do more with the fact that the higher the boxes are stacked, the less stable they become and may fall over, hurting someone. I would build some shelves and stack them single box high just to keep the weight from pressing so much on the bottom. Either way, good luck!
ATTENTION!!! Bottled water does not go bad if stored properly.Store the bottles out of direct sunlight,the uv rays break down the plastics the containers are made of and release the chemicals into the water making it toxic.The state of New Jersey requires expiration dates on all items shipped into the state,including water.So,to save money all manufacturers put expiration dates on consumable items including water.Costco has the cheapest bottled water,Kirkland 35 bottles in a case for $3.50!!!
I enjoyed your input. Please ignore the schoolyard type bully's that will never grow up and hardly anyone likes a bully. Sinse a bully isn't well liked in the population then I would say that their opinion is worthless anyway. All they know is how to tear down things and people and I consider that worthless. Don't you? Again thanks for taking the time to warn others so we do not make the same mistake. That means alot to me.
@archangelzzzz56 I agree! Edification is everything! I remember the old saying, "If you cant' say anything nice, don't say anything!" 07CAV pushed my buttons. The one that knows everything is the one that knows nothing. All you out there that have learned from your mistakes keep teaching the rest of us. Thank you for the good info.
@twistedprepper thanks. I was beginning to dread reading the comments. it seems some people have nothing better to do than to go around and anonymously insult and bully other people... easy to do sitting in front of a keyboard and monitor in mom's basement.
Eh... maybe you should use your common sense more often. Or apparently not so common sense. Your logic on both accounts (stacking and expiration date) is baffling. Not trying to insult you but that box could say DO NOT STACK MORE THAN 100 BOXES HIGH and have an expiration date of a thousand years... it doesn't matter. My kids are smart enough to tell you that it's probably not a good idea to stack any kind of water nine rows high one over the other. Sheesh.
@07Cav Common sense tells me that if a product manufacturer states "do not stack more than 9 high," that stacking 3 high should not be a problem (and it wasn't the stacking which caused the leakage - see my next point...) Common sense tells me that if a product manufacturer, or bottler in this case, stamps an expiration date of 2 years on their packaging, that the packaging itself would not biodegrade in less than 2 years. Sheesh yourself.
@bjf2008 Why do you assume that this woman is ignorant? Have you never made a mistake, nonetheless admitted it to the whole world? I give her Kudos for sharing her lesson learned.
@07Cav BROTHER COMMON SENSE IS SORELY LACKING HAHAHA PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAKING ALL THESE VIDEOS ARE JUST FEED FOR THE PLANTS WHEN THE TIME ACTUALLY DOES COME,,,, MORE FOR ME HAHAHA
@07Cav TRY being nice....it is obvious that she is trying to pass on good information. You will probably be the next ass that comes into my emergency room trying to make us look like idiots for taking in the MI patient first rather than you first (with your stupid boo-boo) because you know better than we do how to handle a triage situation. Go play with your leggos and leave the girl alone.
@07Cav Any reason to be so mean? It is obvious that she was trying to pass on the benefit of learning from an error she made. It is people like you that come into my ER and try to tell us how to triage. It is also people like you that insure my job in the ER. Stupid people and mean people, listen up! The first step to knowing everything is to realize that you know nothing. She was attempting to teach something...If you do not like the lesson, do not watch. And by all means, do not speak.
@07Cav Not trying to insult her??? Now,THAT is baffling. By the way,"Eh and Sheesh" are not real words. And you are breeding?? (This was an experiment in trying to be mean...how's I do? Probably not very well, I'm afraid...none the less, if anyone deserves mean words, it would be 07CAV). She was obviously trying to help others learn from her mistake...we all make mistakes (except, in your own mind, probably you).
Your an idiot ,9 high is purely for shipment over that and they crush very quickly who would think that you could stack 9 cases of gallon water jugs on top of each other why not 55 gallon barrels and store it in them duh!!!!
@kingcahoj um, no, that's not the point I'm trying to make. wouldn't you think that if a company were so bold as to put a "date" on their product that the container they put it in would at least last until the date??? kinda false advertising, isn't it?
@kingcahoj Actually the reason why those have expiration dates is because the containers contain BPA (Bisphenol A) which is a endocrine-disrupting chemical that is used to make the plastic that houses that so called clean water. It breaks down over time along with several other carcinogens that can cause health problems. Watch the documentary "Tapped", it explains a lot on this.
the stack 9 high is not intended for long storage, thats for in a store..i use my old milk containers and have had some for 5 years..no problems at all.
@balloonboyCA I discovered the hard way what freezing does to these. I had been moving things around and had accidentally left 6 cases in the unheated apartment in the back of my house. What a mess. They froze, expanded, split wide open, and the first thaw - I had river!
I've had a similar experience. I had bought a Subaru and wasn't sure if the cooling system would hold up in the desert I'd be traveling through. I bought a regular gallon of distilled from walmart just in case she overheated, kept it in the back. Didn't even make it TO the desert. A typical hot day had burst it open. Sopping out a gallon of water from every nook and cranny of your trunk and spare tire well is NOT a fun way to spend your lunch break. (Btw, Subarus keep cool just fine)
@marcjtdc I get that comment a lot. but the last time I went to Sams Club and looked just to be sure, they were stacked like mine. The stacking isn't the issue anyway. It's the biodegradable-before-their-time jugs they're made of. It wasn't the bottom row which sprung the initial leak. If it were, then stacking may have been a reasonable cause. The middle row leaked, causing the bottom box to collapse, causing the jugs on the bottom to get crushed and leak. I've had non-stacked jugs leak also.
In that wee closet, you could make a rack so that you can seperate the boxes?? Anyway, at least you are getting prepared. I just read that the ratio in America is something like only 4 out of 100 have some food stored. It's probably the same here in Scotland. It's gonna be utter chaos when it happens. So good luck to you and your family.
@fin4710 Only 4 out of 100? Yikes! It's frustrating knowing that others are "aware" but still don't feel the need to prep. My uncle has stated he knows something bad may happen, but has resigned himself to just giving up. I hope his survival mechanism kicks in before it's too too late. Good luck to you also.
Take them out of the boxes and hang them from the ceiling. Hang one from the ceiling then tie the next one to the string basket you made for the top one. This will have them all safe and sound.
my on hand water storage is 15 or so cases of bottled water. household uses them, so its a rotating stock. when one is gone, well buy one to replace it.
Also have 10 five gallon jerry cans, that get purged every month or so.
your water needs really depend, on who, and where you are.
On a water side note. Bleach, chlorine, pool shock, things of that sort, are nice to have.
used to work o/n stock at walmart, those plastic jugs would break all the time
@luvintherawlife I bought a commercial grade barrel pump from Uline-dot-com. I also have a handful of 55 gallon food grade drums I got cheap from a guy on Cr**gsl*st.
I leave my 50 rural yards from my home, I have a small mountain fed stream. I boil the water, so it’s sustainable. What are you going to do when your water supply runs out? With my EDC kit, I can live indefinitely in the eastern woodlands of the Appalachians on nature’s bounty. What are you doing to do when your supplies run out? What are you prepping for? Katrina or SHTF? SHTF, preppers will be looted, killed for cache, or die when supplies run out. Think about it…
@anynameplease the point of this video was to show that this brand/type of water doesn't store well. It is not my long term solution. I have a rainwater catch system for longer term. After that, I accept my fate. I'm a city dweller preppng for civil unrest / societal deterioration. Good luck at your mountain retreat.
I use old 2 liter soda bottles. When it is empty I rinse it out real well then fill it with fresh water & every yr or so I replace them. It works great, especially since I only do it for a few weeks emergency water supply. It would be a pain if you are trying to store lots of water for long term but for smaller amounts it's great. The bottles are free, don't leak & can take mild abuse. I wouldn't let them bounce in the car for a yr but they are fine being moved around or if they fall off a shelf
You aren't stacking boxes right. You have to stack one row going sideways and the other row on top going the other way. make sure that the space between the boxes form a "T" if you will. This way separates the weight evenly.
Something similar happened to me as well. Two 5gal jugs sprung a leak at about the 1 1/2yr time. By the time I discovered it , I had a mold issue all over other stuff. Just keep watch.
I just started getting water, just have 6 gallons jugs, what can I buy to empty them and put them in something that won't leak? I read on google if they stay sealed the water stays better and won't get any bacteria , but if opened not good to keep long term, that's what I read. So, I can open these jugs and pour them into something else? Without getting an bacteria in them & lasting? Thanks.
@Kittencuddler you can buy food grade 30 or 55 gallon barrels. As long as they are kept clean, you shouldn't have a problem with stuff growing. Also, they advise you stay away from a white color barrel and keep it out of light to prevent from growing algae. Other that that, treat water with plain bleach, you should be set. You can get used food grade barrels under $20.
@luvintherawlife I'm not sure about the track record those types of bottles have. I would assume they'd be good for shorter term (a couple years) storage. They are quite a bit more expensive, though, since there is the price of the water plus a deposit on the jug (usually an additional $5 charge.) The trick would then be dispensing of the water from such a heavy container. That's why I bought the 1-gallon jugs to begin with. Oh well - live and learn I guess!
Many plastics bottles and bags are designed to be somewhat biodegradeable so when you shop for storage containers, keep this in mind, consider industrial or glass.
For us water storage is important-not for the end of the world, but because we live in an earthquake of the country. When I tell people that I don't sound as crazy haha! I've had several of the 2 1.2 gallon jugs leak eventually for no apparent reason. Thanks for the video!
According to the FDA, bottled water is supposed to last forever if the jugs are kept in a cool place away from sunlight. The light will cause the plastic to degrade, leaching toxic chemicals in the water. Ideally, you should buy a food grade HDPE (High Density PolyEthylene) 55 gallon drum to store water in. You already have the space and it makes the most sense.
Treat the water using about 1/8 teaspoon tsp of chlorine bleach per gallon of water stored.
you stacked the wrong way - next time you go to a store with stacks of cases OBSERVE how they are stacked. They are not stacked one on top of another, they are stacked the way a brick wall is constructed, with alternating bricks, never a single point of weight directly over another.
Find a local pharmaceutical company and buy their used 35-50 gallon drums. They will be high quality. Heavy duty locking seals. Thick food-safe material. They are designed for open shipping, so you're really talking super durable. One of these could fall off a semi and I'd be surprised if it even leaked. The drug companies use thick plastic liners in them so there is minimal contamination, making them easy to clean out. Perfect for long term water storage.
A few years ago I cleaned out the basement of a Y2K prepper who had at least 2 thousand jugs in cases.It was a horrible mess and only half of the bottles were intact.Most of the bottles were brittle as well from being stored for 5-7 years.
She is absolutely correct! Avoid using "milk" jug type storage containers for short or long term water storage. I stored some 1 gallon distilled water (Arrowhead, Sparklettes) for cleaning car batteries, and after a few months they leaked. Luckily for me, I had the bottles inside a Rubbermaid tote which contained the spill. NO stacked weight caused them to leak -- they just split along their seams and leaked.
thank you. a lot of people are looking at the fact that the bottom box buckled, thinking it was the weight or the way they are stacked, yet it was NOT the jugs in the bottom box which leaked. the leak occurred above, causing damage to the boxes below. I also had some non-stacked jugs stored elsewhere start to leak.
@Viokehd I put everything in large trash bags inside plastic storage containers. The main reason is in case of a flood.Hopefully the double packaging with save most items. I don't store water in any large quanities , because we've got accees to a private well. Which has three sources of running the pumps. Water flitration is the best solution.
I had some jugs of water leftover form a camping trip. I set them in the garage unstacked in a corner, 2 of 3 cracked open, the plastic literally split. It never froze and never got above 80 degrees, these plastic containers just arent made for storage, they degrade rapidly.
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and the moral of the story is... stop preparing for the end of the world because it aint gonna happen and it just makes your life complicated. live everyday as if it were your last
@sheffieldmvp - I'm not prepping for the end of the world, just inner city rioting, looting, raping, and pillaging. If you feel confident roaming the streets and knocking on doors in search of basic essentials, have at it.
@sheffieldmvp Are you serious? Cause there is nothing ever that could happen to you that could cause water to stop running out of your faucet for a few weeks? Where in the world do you live that you are immune to all manner of catastrophe? what has happened in our world that we criticize someone for spending 20 bucks and having a few of the most basic resources their bodies require in case something were to occur? But hey, ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your fantasy.
@sheffieldmvp And BTW, I cant resist....."live everyday as if it were your last"...?......you are on YOUTUBE! Are we really supposed to take you seriously when you say something like that on YOUTUBE?! So you are living today as though it were your last? Getting that last little bit of life fulfilling vid watching in? How about YOU start acting like tomorrow just might actually show up and do something productive to prepare for it?
@sheffieldmvp Nope. A) I'm not mad at you. Just pointing out the ignorance of your statement. and B) I have made zero preparations for anything substantial, but I have been rethinking that the last few days. I stumbled on this video from a government video about earthquakes that I was watching because my area is under an alert because we have had several record setting earthquakes in the last few days and experts are concerned we may have one soon that will be devastating. imagine that....
Always store water in glass containers the main reason is it will stay clean and drinkable indefinately. Plastic is a oil by product and has a poor shelf life, Some will argue glass is breakable and yes it is, but your water supply should not be on the move and if you are then storing water was pointless. I personally use 25 litre glass jugs you can buy from any good wine making place. Cost for me in Canada was about $20.00 per bottle and I used tap water which is free.
Same thing happened to me few years back and they were not even stacked. On top shelf of closet and just started leaking. They just break down. I started buying big water cooler bottles and got a dispenser for $100 at HD.
Mine were in the storage loft above my bed. I never noticed water dripping but just happened to notice that the ceiling over my bed seemed to be turning black. Now I just store toilet paper up there. BTW mine weren't even stacked but just sitting flat on the floor in the original cases when they started leaking. So it doesn't even matter that they were stacked, or how they were stacked.
The plastic milk jugs are made out of are MEANT to break down after time. Thats its lifestyle, shortened to reduce landfill life. Sodapop plastic is much safer for long-term use/re-use.
Good video - A week ago I bought some solar panels from the website Solar Penny SolarPenny their prices are better than online at other companies or eBay. If you are looking for low cost solar I recommend them for any preppers on a budget. The employee I spoke with also is concerned about the future and is a good guy to talk to for ideas.
contact me for long term water storage that last 5 years and don't bust open. standard bottled water bottles are made from bio degradeable plastics. If you store water in food grade empty 2 liter soda pop bottles it will stay good for 5 years. I learned how at red cross. so contact me for complete information. Great video BTW, I 'm sure it helped a lot of people not waste their time on standard bottled water
it's only leaking 'cause you stacked too many. i've got gallons and gallons of water that have sat for years - no problem. but i agree that this isn't optimal.
Solution: Cinder blocks and wood planks. You don't need a good shelf, just a functional shelf. Cheap, modular, and if you really need to you can break the things down and use them as cover.
i have heard about these leaking issues... guess ima need to invest in the 55 gal drums before i start having issues. good video thanks for the heads up.
A lot of milk bottles are being made with cheap/ biodegradable "Green" plastic. If the water supplier is not informed by his bottle supplier that those are the bottles he is filling............ If your are reuseing plastic bottles you run the risk of this happening, even soda bottles. There are some water companies that use "Green Packaging" too, do not expect the bottles to last.
It is not necessarily the weight. Those type containers will break down and leak after a few months sitting unstacked. They are not good for long term storage.
It broke because you have it stacked improperly. When stacking boxes of bottled water you have to offset them.. in other words make a square of 4 or more boxes.. the next level change direction of stack. that way the boxes are resting on differnt portions of the box. As you have the stacked all the weight is on the outside 4 corners of the boxes.
order water delivery and actively use the supply and rotate. keep as many on had is possible. If you run low, you have the empties to fill up before the water pressure goes.
We had 1 box a few years ago and 2 of the 3 jugs leaked in about 6 months. They were in our pantry with no weight on them. I've never used another one. Sorry that you had to learn the hard way.
I know that I use bottle water a lot and they leak all the time without anything on top of them. Definitely not for long term storage or even short term. What a waste.
because you stacked them to high, u had too much pressure on the bottom box. everyone knows plastic doesnt degrade for thousands of years so unless you bought dollar store brand u just need to stack better.
apparently "everyone" knows except the jugs in question, even the ones in the other room that weren't stacked. hmmmm. they must've been absent from school on Earth Day. They should know better than to leak before their thousand years is up.
I'm not the only person to have leaking issues with these type of plastic jugs. and it wasn't the bottom box which had the leaker. the bottom box collapsed because a jug in the one above it decided it was time to leak.
@beagalulu2 Stacking is for shipping, not for storage, you should also rotate when you bought them against the exp date. Keep away from light in a cool dry space. Put a box of moth balls in the storage. Glass bottles are the best for storage for the freshness factor and stacking. Mix small bottle with large . Small bottle for travel, large for cooking and wash. Remember to rotate stock always!!
@AncientLand Most "plastic" food grade storage items are not plastic at all. They are made of corn starch that through a heat and pressure process take on the characteristics of plastic. The water jugs in this video would have started leaking even at one level high. There is NO guarenteed stack height. The do not stack over 9 high warning is meant solely for shipping purposes. These can start degrading in as little as one month.
Buy crates to put them in, 3 bucks at walmart and are stackable. They hold four gallon jugs each and can be carried by one person or by two people since handles are on both sides . The 9 cases high thing is referring to them being palletized btw. If they're touching and stacked in the pattern on the boxes they hold most of the time. I've seen pallets come off trucks busted up though so don't trust it for storage imho. I use the crate packed method n it works best for gallon jugs in my experience
I use those in DeekPark instead, and they have worked fine over many years now. Mine are stacked five high, and I have many stacks at a time at all times. Maybe the cardboard quality between that brand and the DeekPark from Samsclub is different?
Other people use bags inside boxes. But that is prone to mice, but a mouse trap is a must. I make homemade water sachets from a kit, for a box like yours it probably cost me about 2 - 3 dollars per box. But I don't know how long water sachet lasts, maybe 4 - 5 years?
Here's video of someones idea of a big bag inside a box watch?v=0sRfI_j8mbc
actually, I chose this particular brand because the boxes are well constructed for stacking - that is - until they get wet. The problem is that the plastic jugs are degrading and splitting at the seams sometimes only after a year in storage. Then the water ruins the cardboard boxes below, adding uneven pressure on good jugs on the bottom, causing them to split prematurely also.
My complaint is that the plastic (or method) used to make these jugs is no good for long term (1yr+).
Sorry for your troubles. I am almost thinking that going to the 5 gallon carboy would be better. Where I live, they will deliver. Not sure about your area. If they make the carboys in glass still so much the better. I hate the plastic ones!
I'm thinking of adding some plastic ones to my collection. I initially balked at the cost as the deposit on the jug is as much as the water - for $10 total just for 5 gallons! But I suppose that'll be cheap when there's no clean running water at all. I guess I just have to get of my procrastinating butt and get to work on my rainwater collection and filtration systems. I have most of the stuff; just need to build them.
I never would've thought but, then again i live in the country and have access to open the well. and put a pump in it. and we have a natural spring in the basement that is covered. trust me we had to pull this one out of our butts when Irene hit.
millwrght4ever 8 hours ago
The stacking info on the box's are for shipping and short term purpises only. If people have a limited amount of room for storing water they should use empty 2 quart plastic pop bottles with screw on caps. Those bottles will not leak and can be stored under beds or where ever is a good place for you.
ronkpaws1 17 hours ago
whats wrong with tap water ? mine been good for 44 years,with no leaks !
roger571967 1 day ago
Maybe someone can build you a 2x4 framed shelving unit for your closet, then stack two high per shelf. That might resolve the crushed box issue. Good luck with your supply.
bvensko 2 days ago
the nine cases high is for shipping not long term storage. i would suggest the 24 packs of bottles. you can stack them higher longer. the whole bed of nails thing. about 26 lbs per 24 pack over the 24 points of contact VS about 48 lbs per 6 gallon case with 6 points of contact. not sure how much the 6 gallon case costs but a 5 gallon jug at wal mart is about 5 bucks and those are pretty strong. either way keep prepping! :)
sic615 4 days ago
Better off going with 5 gallon pails. Lesson learned though. Oh, and if you're planning on digging in and staying in the house should something happen, I recommend modifying a garbage can lid to fit your rain gutter system so you can collect water in large amounts should the need arise. Just letting you know.
GrayHatLinux 6 days ago
My bed is rated to hold 400 lbs. but I know if I remain on the bed for an abnormal amount of time, I run the risk of bedsores. Those limitations are intended for stock rotation. Retailers would lose money without quick turnaround. Cardboard absorbs moisture and loses its rigidity.
cudaclan 6 days ago
live and learn....thanks for posting.
RustyHingesSqueak 6 days ago
To all you jackass know-it-alls and caps-lock morons:
There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there? You know what IS common sense? It's common sense that small-minded people will always try to make themselves look better by making other people look bad.
She was trying to help other people avoid making the same mistake she made. What have YOU done to make the world a better place?
Luthiart 6 days ago
@Luthiart Bravo! I concur....but if it were not for meanies like 07CAV, I might not have a job! Thanks, 07CAV, for my job security!! But CAV, ya need to stay away from my house when the shtf because around here we shoot lame ducks and zombies.
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
sheesh lots of haters on this video. she was making this vid to inform other preppers not to use the milk gallons for water storage. its so simple. if you are watching this, and thought before this vid that those gallons werent a good idea, then thats great. if you didn't think/know that, even better, you learned something. relax people, theres no reason to hate.
aheadatime 1 week ago
havent you ever heard a polish joke! haha
MrABlinkin 1 week ago
Hint for stacking, you have to alternate the direction of the boxes every row up you go, it makes a stronger stack! Hope this helps ya, it will make the boxes last longer. Alternation will probally hold the boxes 9 high.
bigbaddawn 1 week ago
thanks for stimulating the economy with your rediculous preperation!
me86680 1 week ago
@me86680 Small bit of info....you spelled preparation wrong.....another know it all. "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". Another meanie bites themselves in their own butt.;
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
always stack in rows no less than 2 deep... and you must stack in a criss cross (i.e., bottom level box ends face north and south, 2nd level of boxes face East to West - rinse repeat) for even weight distribution..might also want to rotate the boxes every two months to 1) inspect the integrity of the containers, and 2) to identify/ prevent the cardboard boxes from crushing under the wight.... FYI Gatorade boxes (for any size containers) are some of the sturdiest boxes known to man.
rrr223 1 week ago
if it milk jog type you shold get milk crates thats what i use
lordbradford1 1 week ago
Buy a portable RO membrane water filter, use river water, rainwater,etc.
rickcain2320 1 week ago
Msdarkstar44
You can call the companies customers service and ask for the "pallet pattern" for that item. They should be able to email or fax it to you. If they don't want to give you the info tell them you're a church volunteer with a lot of "their" product to stack and you're concerned about safety. If no success, ask to speak to a packaging engineer. This should work for almost any food company. Hope this helps!
msdarkstar44 2 weeks ago
It is good info for those who did not know. Any info can be useful. All of the smart asses already know every damned thing so ignore them/
soundmethod 2 weeks ago
Stacking 101, alternate direction of heavy boxed items. I stack Walmart brand distilled H2O (similar to your boxes) five high for my hurricane prep and I have never had one leak/break/burst. Usually the best way to stack these items is to check how the store receives them on the pallet. The manufacturers will have done it to preserve the integrity of their product.
cresidue 2 weeks ago
I would also think that the "don't stack over 9 boxes high" would have to do more with the fact that the higher the boxes are stacked, the less stable they become and may fall over, hurting someone. I would build some shelves and stack them single box high just to keep the weight from pressing so much on the bottom. Either way, good luck!
kattfirmin1 2 weeks ago
ATTENTION!!! Bottled water does not go bad if stored properly.Store the bottles out of direct sunlight,the uv rays break down the plastics the containers are made of and release the chemicals into the water making it toxic.The state of New Jersey requires expiration dates on all items shipped into the state,including water.So,to save money all manufacturers put expiration dates on consumable items including water.Costco has the cheapest bottled water,Kirkland 35 bottles in a case for $3.50!!!
XRedneckElevatorManX 4 weeks ago
You do not need to talk for 5 minutes about this, this should have been a 20 second video
mvallin 1 month ago
I enjoyed your input. Please ignore the schoolyard type bully's that will never grow up and hardly anyone likes a bully. Sinse a bully isn't well liked in the population then I would say that their opinion is worthless anyway. All they know is how to tear down things and people and I consider that worthless. Don't you? Again thanks for taking the time to warn others so we do not make the same mistake. That means alot to me.
archangelzzzz56 1 month ago 6
@archangelzzzz56 thanks.
beagalulu2 1 month ago
@archangelzzzz56 -I a.agree..nice vid beagalulu
steelersX01 1 week ago
@archangelzzzz56 I agree! Edification is everything! I remember the old saying, "If you cant' say anything nice, don't say anything!" 07CAV pushed my buttons. The one that knows everything is the one that knows nothing. All you out there that have learned from your mistakes keep teaching the rest of us. Thank you for the good info.
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
Watched the documentary tapped and the last thing u want to do is support Poland springs from raping consumers. I kno u will find a better way:)
Missymixon72 1 month ago
@twistedprepper thanks. I was beginning to dread reading the comments. it seems some people have nothing better to do than to go around and anonymously insult and bully other people... easy to do sitting in front of a keyboard and monitor in mom's basement.
beagalulu2 1 month ago
1. You.re not an idiot unless you learn nothing from your mistakes. No matter what the YouTube trolls tell you.
2. Water expands 9% when it freezes, if it is in a container, 'pop'! Leave an air gap.
3. If you need to store that much water, buy a food safe poly barrel at the local grain/feed store.
4. Poland Spring is truly ground water, that's what a spring is.
5. Buy water treatments for long term storage of water (check survival/prepper sites) and using city water, much cheaper.
bigbossimmotal 1 month ago
POLAND Spring. Well there's your problem, you took your instructions from a Pollack!
(hehe don't worry I have Polish blood myself, so I'm allowed to say that)
evilassaultweaponeer 1 month ago
there is never an expiration date for water and salt.
syalcin123 1 month ago
Eh... maybe you should use your common sense more often. Or apparently not so common sense. Your logic on both accounts (stacking and expiration date) is baffling. Not trying to insult you but that box could say DO NOT STACK MORE THAN 100 BOXES HIGH and have an expiration date of a thousand years... it doesn't matter. My kids are smart enough to tell you that it's probably not a good idea to stack any kind of water nine rows high one over the other. Sheesh.
07Cav 2 months ago
@07Cav Common sense tells me that if a product manufacturer states "do not stack more than 9 high," that stacking 3 high should not be a problem (and it wasn't the stacking which caused the leakage - see my next point...) Common sense tells me that if a product manufacturer, or bottler in this case, stamps an expiration date of 2 years on their packaging, that the packaging itself would not biodegrade in less than 2 years. Sheesh yourself.
beagalulu2 2 months ago 9
@beagalulu2 COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU NOTHING AT ALL IF THIS VIDEO IS ANY SEMBLANCE OF YOUR IGNORANCE
bjf2008 1 week ago
@bjf2008 Why do you assume that this woman is ignorant? Have you never made a mistake, nonetheless admitted it to the whole world? I give her Kudos for sharing her lesson learned.
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
@07Cav BROTHER COMMON SENSE IS SORELY LACKING HAHAHA PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAKING ALL THESE VIDEOS ARE JUST FEED FOR THE PLANTS WHEN THE TIME ACTUALLY DOES COME,,,, MORE FOR ME HAHAHA
bjf2008 1 week ago
@07Cav TRY being nice....it is obvious that she is trying to pass on good information. You will probably be the next ass that comes into my emergency room trying to make us look like idiots for taking in the MI patient first rather than you first (with your stupid boo-boo) because you know better than we do how to handle a triage situation. Go play with your leggos and leave the girl alone.
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
@07Cav Any reason to be so mean? It is obvious that she was trying to pass on the benefit of learning from an error she made. It is people like you that come into my ER and try to tell us how to triage. It is also people like you that insure my job in the ER. Stupid people and mean people, listen up! The first step to knowing everything is to realize that you know nothing. She was attempting to teach something...If you do not like the lesson, do not watch. And by all means, do not speak.
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
@07Cav Not trying to insult her??? Now,THAT is baffling. By the way,"Eh and Sheesh" are not real words. And you are breeding?? (This was an experiment in trying to be mean...how's I do? Probably not very well, I'm afraid...none the less, if anyone deserves mean words, it would be 07CAV). She was obviously trying to help others learn from her mistake...we all make mistakes (except, in your own mind, probably you).
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
Your an idiot ,9 high is purely for shipment over that and they crush very quickly who would think that you could stack 9 cases of gallon water jugs on top of each other why not 55 gallon barrels and store it in them duh!!!!
martydawsonyellow1 2 months ago
It's clean water in a sealed container, are you seriously worried about the expiration date?
kingcahoj 2 months ago
@kingcahoj um, no, that's not the point I'm trying to make. wouldn't you think that if a company were so bold as to put a "date" on their product that the container they put it in would at least last until the date??? kinda false advertising, isn't it?
beagalulu2 2 months ago
@beagalulu2 I DONT CARE WHAT THE MANUFACTURER SAYS ITS FREAKIN CARDBOARD!!!!!!! GET A CLUE ....REMEMBER COMMON SENSE LOLOL
bjf2008 1 week ago
@bjf2008 Why are you yelling?
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
@kingcahoj Actually the reason why those have expiration dates is because the containers contain BPA (Bisphenol A) which is a endocrine-disrupting chemical that is used to make the plastic that houses that so called clean water. It breaks down over time along with several other carcinogens that can cause health problems. Watch the documentary "Tapped", it explains a lot on this.
ronjohn862000 5 hours ago
They probably mean temporary stacking in a warehouse where they will soon be moved, not long term storage stacking.
I'm pouring water into the jugs you can get at Walmart for $7.
They say they can be stacked too, but I've heard reports of them cracking after a while.
I don't know if there is a good answer.
breezebro 2 months ago
the stack 9 high is not intended for long storage, thats for in a store..i use my old milk containers and have had some for 5 years..no problems at all.
ihatesquirrel13 2 months ago
What's really happening is a result of gravity. You need to freeze the water so, in effect, the water resists gravity on its own.
balloonboyCA 2 months ago
@balloonboyCA I discovered the hard way what freezing does to these. I had been moving things around and had accidentally left 6 cases in the unheated apartment in the back of my house. What a mess. They froze, expanded, split wide open, and the first thaw - I had river!
beagalulu2 2 months ago
@twin1010101010 never thought of liquor bottles. that makes a ton of sense.
keetonbob 2 months ago
I've had a similar experience. I had bought a Subaru and wasn't sure if the cooling system would hold up in the desert I'd be traveling through. I bought a regular gallon of distilled from walmart just in case she overheated, kept it in the back. Didn't even make it TO the desert. A typical hot day had burst it open. Sopping out a gallon of water from every nook and cranny of your trunk and spare tire well is NOT a fun way to spend your lunch break. (Btw, Subarus keep cool just fine)
keetonbob 2 months ago
Thanks for showing the mistake of storing water in milk carton plastic jugs.
Best bet is 5 gallon drinking cooler jugs. They are thick plastic... last a lifetime.
1Joyeux 2 months ago
9 CASES HIGH MEANS YOU OVERLAP THEM LIKE THEY DO ON PALLETS, NOT LIKE YOU DID!!
marcjtdc 2 months ago
@marcjtdc I get that comment a lot. but the last time I went to Sams Club and looked just to be sure, they were stacked like mine. The stacking isn't the issue anyway. It's the biodegradable-before-their-time jugs they're made of. It wasn't the bottom row which sprung the initial leak. If it were, then stacking may have been a reasonable cause. The middle row leaked, causing the bottom box to collapse, causing the jugs on the bottom to get crushed and leak. I've had non-stacked jugs leak also.
beagalulu2 2 months ago
In that wee closet, you could make a rack so that you can seperate the boxes?? Anyway, at least you are getting prepared. I just read that the ratio in America is something like only 4 out of 100 have some food stored. It's probably the same here in Scotland. It's gonna be utter chaos when it happens. So good luck to you and your family.
fin4710 2 months ago
@fin4710 Only 4 out of 100? Yikes! It's frustrating knowing that others are "aware" but still don't feel the need to prep. My uncle has stated he knows something bad may happen, but has resigned himself to just giving up. I hope his survival mechanism kicks in before it's too too late. Good luck to you also.
beagalulu2 2 months ago
Take them out of the boxes and hang them from the ceiling. Hang one from the ceiling then tie the next one to the string basket you made for the top one. This will have them all safe and sound.
sanity599 2 months ago
my on hand water storage is 15 or so cases of bottled water. household uses them, so its a rotating stock. when one is gone, well buy one to replace it.
Also have 10 five gallon jerry cans, that get purged every month or so.
your water needs really depend, on who, and where you are.
On a water side note. Bleach, chlorine, pool shock, things of that sort, are nice to have.
used to work o/n stock at walmart, those plastic jugs would break all the time
dreamthinker79 2 months ago
@luvintherawlife I bought a commercial grade barrel pump from Uline-dot-com. I also have a handful of 55 gallon food grade drums I got cheap from a guy on Cr**gsl*st.
beagalulu2 2 months ago
I leave my 50 rural yards from my home, I have a small mountain fed stream. I boil the water, so it’s sustainable. What are you going to do when your water supply runs out? With my EDC kit, I can live indefinitely in the eastern woodlands of the Appalachians on nature’s bounty. What are you doing to do when your supplies run out? What are you prepping for? Katrina or SHTF? SHTF, preppers will be looted, killed for cache, or die when supplies run out. Think about it…
anynameplease 2 months ago
@anynameplease the point of this video was to show that this brand/type of water doesn't store well. It is not my long term solution. I have a rainwater catch system for longer term. After that, I accept my fate. I'm a city dweller preppng for civil unrest / societal deterioration. Good luck at your mountain retreat.
beagalulu2 2 months ago
I use old 2 liter soda bottles. When it is empty I rinse it out real well then fill it with fresh water & every yr or so I replace them. It works great, especially since I only do it for a few weeks emergency water supply. It would be a pain if you are trying to store lots of water for long term but for smaller amounts it's great. The bottles are free, don't leak & can take mild abuse. I wouldn't let them bounce in the car for a yr but they are fine being moved around or if they fall off a shelf
shananagans5 2 months ago
@shananagans5 It's a good idea. Unfortunately, I don't drink pop.
beagalulu2 2 months ago
water never expires, it might taste funny but its always safe to drink
UnnamedThinker 2 months ago
You aren't stacking boxes right. You have to stack one row going sideways and the other row on top going the other way. make sure that the space between the boxes form a "T" if you will. This way separates the weight evenly.
skiie 3 months ago
@skiie When the bottles on the top row begin to leak, is it because the boxes underneath weren't stacked right?
beagalulu2 2 months ago
Something similar happened to me as well. Two 5gal jugs sprung a leak at about the 1 1/2yr time. By the time I discovered it , I had a mold issue all over other stuff. Just keep watch.
LoyaltotheUSA 3 months ago
plastic milk jugs are designed to bio degrade. Some plastics have additives to break them down after a predetermined amount of time
too bad you had to learn that the hard way. 2L soda bottles work great
miller3138 3 months ago
I just started getting water, just have 6 gallons jugs, what can I buy to empty them and put them in something that won't leak? I read on google if they stay sealed the water stays better and won't get any bacteria , but if opened not good to keep long term, that's what I read. So, I can open these jugs and pour them into something else? Without getting an bacteria in them & lasting? Thanks.
Kittencuddler 3 months ago
@Kittencuddler you can buy food grade 30 or 55 gallon barrels. As long as they are kept clean, you shouldn't have a problem with stuff growing. Also, they advise you stay away from a white color barrel and keep it out of light to prevent from growing algae. Other that that, treat water with plain bleach, you should be set. You can get used food grade barrels under $20.
beagalulu2 2 months ago
Poland spring well there's your problem loll jk jk
Atritionist 3 months ago
@Atritionist Yeah, it was a spring alright. oops!
beagalulu2 2 months ago
@luvintherawlife I'm not sure about the track record those types of bottles have. I would assume they'd be good for shorter term (a couple years) storage. They are quite a bit more expensive, though, since there is the price of the water plus a deposit on the jug (usually an additional $5 charge.) The trick would then be dispensing of the water from such a heavy container. That's why I bought the 1-gallon jugs to begin with. Oh well - live and learn I guess!
beagalulu2 3 months ago
Many plastics bottles and bags are designed to be somewhat biodegradeable so when you shop for storage containers, keep this in mind, consider industrial or glass.
MrWirelesscaller 3 months ago
For us water storage is important-not for the end of the world, but because we live in an earthquake of the country. When I tell people that I don't sound as crazy haha! I've had several of the 2 1.2 gallon jugs leak eventually for no apparent reason. Thanks for the video!
ericpmahoney 3 months ago
bugs can grow in thouse waters there very very small
Killuminatiuk 3 months ago
According to the FDA, bottled water is supposed to last forever if the jugs are kept in a cool place away from sunlight. The light will cause the plastic to degrade, leaching toxic chemicals in the water. Ideally, you should buy a food grade HDPE (High Density PolyEthylene) 55 gallon drum to store water in. You already have the space and it makes the most sense.
Treat the water using about 1/8 teaspoon tsp of chlorine bleach per gallon of water stored.
NoirHammer 3 months ago
Thanks for the info, I want to learn from others mistakes to avoid my own. I wish more people would do things like this. Good luck, God Bless!!
WS6Racing 3 months ago
you stacked the wrong way - next time you go to a store with stacks of cases OBSERVE how they are stacked. They are not stacked one on top of another, they are stacked the way a brick wall is constructed, with alternating bricks, never a single point of weight directly over another.
ravenbones1 3 months ago 12
@ravenbones1 Good info...that makes sense. Kinda like pressure points. I get it! Thanks!
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
@ravenbones1 Good to know! That makes sense....Thanks for the info!
TRAUMAMAMMA911 6 days ago
Find a local pharmaceutical company and buy their used 35-50 gallon drums. They will be high quality. Heavy duty locking seals. Thick food-safe material. They are designed for open shipping, so you're really talking super durable. One of these could fall off a semi and I'd be surprised if it even leaked. The drug companies use thick plastic liners in them so there is minimal contamination, making them easy to clean out. Perfect for long term water storage.
gobbly1337 3 months ago
A few years ago I cleaned out the basement of a Y2K prepper who had at least 2 thousand jugs in cases.It was a horrible mess and only half of the bottles were intact.Most of the bottles were brittle as well from being stored for 5-7 years.
heliarche 3 months ago
The seams give out...doesn't necessarily have to do with he stacking. As others have stated, they just leak!
SpookeySVG 3 months ago
She is absolutely correct! Avoid using "milk" jug type storage containers for short or long term water storage. I stored some 1 gallon distilled water (Arrowhead, Sparklettes) for cleaning car batteries, and after a few months they leaked. Luckily for me, I had the bottles inside a Rubbermaid tote which contained the spill. NO stacked weight caused them to leak -- they just split along their seams and leaked.
Viokehd 3 months ago
@Viokehd
thank you. a lot of people are looking at the fact that the bottom box buckled, thinking it was the weight or the way they are stacked, yet it was NOT the jugs in the bottom box which leaked. the leak occurred above, causing damage to the boxes below. I also had some non-stacked jugs stored elsewhere start to leak.
beagalulu2 3 months ago
@Viokehd I put everything in large trash bags inside plastic storage containers. The main reason is in case of a flood.Hopefully the double packaging with save most items. I don't store water in any large quanities , because we've got accees to a private well. Which has three sources of running the pumps. Water flitration is the best solution.
troybrownrigg 3 months ago
To stack boxes like that, you turn each level and stack them in a different directions each level.
DontTreadOnMeVa 3 months ago
thats a safety warning, they dont care if you store them in a way that makes them leak
JustinKennith 3 months ago
The one gallon jugs also contain BPA in the plastic. Better off with the BPA-Free 7gallon AquaTainers.
But dont stack the AquaTainers once filled either.
WisconsinEric 3 months ago
One word: Shelves.
DrZook 3 months ago
I had some jugs of water leftover form a camping trip. I set them in the garage unstacked in a corner, 2 of 3 cracked open, the plastic literally split. It never froze and never got above 80 degrees, these plastic containers just arent made for storage, they degrade rapidly.
aaronbassplyr 3 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
and the moral of the story is... stop preparing for the end of the world because it aint gonna happen and it just makes your life complicated. live everyday as if it were your last
sheffieldmvp 3 months ago
@sheffieldmvp - I'm not prepping for the end of the world, just inner city rioting, looting, raping, and pillaging. If you feel confident roaming the streets and knocking on doors in search of basic essentials, have at it.
beagalulu2 3 months ago 20
@sheffieldmvp Sheffield England? wasn't there a total collapse of the Rule of Law? weren't the police helpless to protect the citizens?
2ndadmendmutt 3 months ago
@2ndadmendmutt I dunno know bout that but Gary Sheffield was a hell of a ball player. You missed that one completely.
sheffieldmvp 3 months ago
@sheffieldmvp LOL yes, yes i did.
2ndadmendmutt 3 months ago
@sheffieldmvp Are you serious? Cause there is nothing ever that could happen to you that could cause water to stop running out of your faucet for a few weeks? Where in the world do you live that you are immune to all manner of catastrophe? what has happened in our world that we criticize someone for spending 20 bucks and having a few of the most basic resources their bodies require in case something were to occur? But hey, ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your fantasy.
lives2live 3 months ago
@sheffieldmvp And BTW, I cant resist....."live everyday as if it were your last"...?......you are on YOUTUBE! Are we really supposed to take you seriously when you say something like that on YOUTUBE?! So you are living today as though it were your last? Getting that last little bit of life fulfilling vid watching in? How about YOU start acting like tomorrow just might actually show up and do something productive to prepare for it?
lives2live 3 months ago
@lives2live u mad cuz you're wasting your life prepping for something that will never happen, bro? lol
sheffieldmvp 3 months ago
@sheffieldmvp Nope. A) I'm not mad at you. Just pointing out the ignorance of your statement. and B) I have made zero preparations for anything substantial, but I have been rethinking that the last few days. I stumbled on this video from a government video about earthquakes that I was watching because my area is under an alert because we have had several record setting earthquakes in the last few days and experts are concerned we may have one soon that will be devastating. imagine that....
lives2live 3 months ago
I had some leak and almost ruined the hardwood floor.
Glass as got to be better way to go
HollyTNUSA 3 months ago
Support them!!
diggricp 4 months ago
Always store water in glass containers the main reason is it will stay clean and drinkable indefinately. Plastic is a oil by product and has a poor shelf life, Some will argue glass is breakable and yes it is, but your water supply should not be on the move and if you are then storing water was pointless. I personally use 25 litre glass jugs you can buy from any good wine making place. Cost for me in Canada was about $20.00 per bottle and I used tap water which is free.
c00per69 4 months ago
Same thing happened to me few years back and they were not even stacked. On top shelf of closet and just started leaking. They just break down. I started buying big water cooler bottles and got a dispenser for $100 at HD.
wb5mgr 4 months ago
Mine were in the storage loft above my bed. I never noticed water dripping but just happened to notice that the ceiling over my bed seemed to be turning black. Now I just store toilet paper up there. BTW mine weren't even stacked but just sitting flat on the floor in the original cases when they started leaking. So it doesn't even matter that they were stacked, or how they were stacked.
SustenanceNCovering 4 months ago
buy some 5 gallaon stackable containers and empty the bottles out into them so that u can stack them saftely
JRAMACARTEL 4 months ago
The plastic milk jugs are made out of are MEANT to break down after time. Thats its lifestyle, shortened to reduce landfill life. Sodapop plastic is much safer for long-term use/re-use.
AnnBearForFreedom 4 months ago
WELL U STORED EM 48 YEARS AGO.... we are still here.. sorry your water hasnt stood up to the test of time... humans have...
danalimb 4 months ago
You seriously paid money to buy bottled water?
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dieselplow 4 months ago
"Poland Spring"
I don't think I want one in my closet.
TweezerAddict 4 months ago
buy a rack dude-et
MollyTheLag 4 months ago
contact me for long term water storage that last 5 years and don't bust open. standard bottled water bottles are made from bio degradeable plastics. If you store water in food grade empty 2 liter soda pop bottles it will stay good for 5 years. I learned how at red cross. so contact me for complete information. Great video BTW, I 'm sure it helped a lot of people not waste their time on standard bottled water
crysta555 4 months ago
I had one on the floor all by its self , nothing on top and I checked it 1 month after I bought it and it had leaked.
mycomama 4 months ago
it's only leaking 'cause you stacked too many. i've got gallons and gallons of water that have sat for years - no problem. but i agree that this isn't optimal.
powerhousephg 4 months ago
Solution: Cinder blocks and wood planks. You don't need a good shelf, just a functional shelf. Cheap, modular, and if you really need to you can break the things down and use them as cover.
EricWolfborn 4 months ago
i have heard about these leaking issues... guess ima need to invest in the 55 gal drums before i start having issues. good video thanks for the heads up.
dp665 4 months ago
Lame,
Lexingtonprepdude 4 months ago
Weight does not matter. I had the same thing happen without stacking them. They just got cracked for some reason.
doughboy198060 4 months ago
The problem isn't the structural integrity of the boxes of water jugs but how they're stacked.
757Roy757 4 months ago
A lot of milk bottles are being made with cheap/ biodegradable "Green" plastic. If the water supplier is not informed by his bottle supplier that those are the bottles he is filling............ If your are reuseing plastic bottles you run the risk of this happening, even soda bottles. There are some water companies that use "Green Packaging" too, do not expect the bottles to last.
aloisgault 4 months ago
make a rain barrel for long term water supply if you want to avoid both leaking bottles and
haneschris99 4 months ago
good info thanks
mhdd1234 5 months ago
It is not necessarily the weight. Those type containers will break down and leak after a few months sitting unstacked. They are not good for long term storage.
marlinman00 5 months ago
It broke because you have it stacked improperly. When stacking boxes of bottled water you have to offset them.. in other words make a square of 4 or more boxes.. the next level change direction of stack. that way the boxes are resting on differnt portions of the box. As you have the stacked all the weight is on the outside 4 corners of the boxes.
itsjustdeb579 5 months ago 7
@itsjustdeb579 This guy is 100% right. We stack 3-packs of 1-gal jugs 7 or 8 high at work using the offset stacking method and there is no issue.
silvermediastudio 4 months ago
order water delivery and actively use the supply and rotate. keep as many on had is possible. If you run low, you have the empties to fill up before the water pressure goes.
glendalebrigade 5 months ago
Try reusing the 2 liter soda containers to store your water.
didntseeanything101 5 months ago
We had 1 box a few years ago and 2 of the 3 jugs leaked in about 6 months. They were in our pantry with no weight on them. I've never used another one. Sorry that you had to learn the hard way.
watuwaitn4 5 months ago
I know that I use bottle water a lot and they leak all the time without anything on top of them. Definitely not for long term storage or even short term. What a waste.
cswisdom 5 months ago
how offen did you rotate??? Think that might have caused it
?
BigKidCountry 5 months ago
because you stacked them to high, u had too much pressure on the bottom box. everyone knows plastic doesnt degrade for thousands of years so unless you bought dollar store brand u just need to stack better.
AncientLand 5 months ago
@AncientLand
apparently "everyone" knows except the jugs in question, even the ones in the other room that weren't stacked. hmmmm. they must've been absent from school on Earth Day. They should know better than to leak before their thousand years is up.
I'm not the only person to have leaking issues with these type of plastic jugs. and it wasn't the bottom box which had the leaker. the bottom box collapsed because a jug in the one above it decided it was time to leak.
beagalulu2 5 months ago 7
@beagalulu2 Stacking is for shipping, not for storage, you should also rotate when you bought them against the exp date. Keep away from light in a cool dry space. Put a box of moth balls in the storage. Glass bottles are the best for storage for the freshness factor and stacking. Mix small bottle with large . Small bottle for travel, large for cooking and wash. Remember to rotate stock always!!
chbtrucker 4 months ago
@AncientLand Most "plastic" food grade storage items are not plastic at all. They are made of corn starch that through a heat and pressure process take on the characteristics of plastic. The water jugs in this video would have started leaking even at one level high. There is NO guarenteed stack height. The do not stack over 9 high warning is meant solely for shipping purposes. These can start degrading in as little as one month.
Robbob9933 5 months ago
@AncientLand
I put about 50 of these gallons under my bed that was raised high so that nothing was toughing
them. About 10 of them were leaking and my husband was sooo mad he made me take them out
from under the bed. I then put the others on the floor in a room that was carpeted. I didn't realize
that some were leaking until I smelled the carpet that stunk.
The lesson here is....these gallon bottles are cheap and flimsy and are not meant to last even until the expiration date on them.
melanieanastos 4 months ago
I have deer park in that style of packaging stacked 4 high and it hasn't buckled, but it might over time
ConcernedPrepper 6 months ago
Buy crates to put them in, 3 bucks at walmart and are stackable. They hold four gallon jugs each and can be carried by one person or by two people since handles are on both sides . The 9 cases high thing is referring to them being palletized btw. If they're touching and stacked in the pattern on the boxes they hold most of the time. I've seen pallets come off trucks busted up though so don't trust it for storage imho. I use the crate packed method n it works best for gallon jugs in my experience
william0873 7 months ago
I use those in DeekPark instead, and they have worked fine over many years now. Mine are stacked five high, and I have many stacks at a time at all times. Maybe the cardboard quality between that brand and the DeekPark from Samsclub is different?
PatriotEke 8 months ago
Other people use bags inside boxes. But that is prone to mice, but a mouse trap is a must. I make homemade water sachets from a kit, for a box like yours it probably cost me about 2 - 3 dollars per box. But I don't know how long water sachet lasts, maybe 4 - 5 years?
Here's video of someones idea of a big bag inside a box watch?v=0sRfI_j8mbc
sadieblooming 8 months ago
a gallon of water weighs 8.33 pounds, perhaps shelves would help sove the issue, good luck
GrumpyCoffee 9 months ago
@GrumpyCoffee
actually, I chose this particular brand because the boxes are well constructed for stacking - that is - until they get wet. The problem is that the plastic jugs are degrading and splitting at the seams sometimes only after a year in storage. Then the water ruins the cardboard boxes below, adding uneven pressure on good jugs on the bottom, causing them to split prematurely also.
My complaint is that the plastic (or method) used to make these jugs is no good for long term (1yr+).
beagalulu2 9 months ago
are you gonna make a vid of your cannery items?
18wheeler76 9 months ago
@18wheeler76
I just made my second trip yesterday, and plan to make a vid soon. Sorry, I'm not what you'd call a spontaneous videographer.
beagalulu2 9 months ago
Sorry for your troubles. I am almost thinking that going to the 5 gallon carboy would be better. Where I live, they will deliver. Not sure about your area. If they make the carboys in glass still so much the better. I hate the plastic ones!
docsimonson 9 months ago
@docsimonson
I'm thinking of adding some plastic ones to my collection. I initially balked at the cost as the deposit on the jug is as much as the water - for $10 total just for 5 gallons! But I suppose that'll be cheap when there's no clean running water at all. I guess I just have to get of my procrastinating butt and get to work on my rainwater collection and filtration systems. I have most of the stuff; just need to build them.
beagalulu2 9 months ago
Thanks for the info
californiaprepping 9 months ago
@californiaprepping
hey, it's always better to learn from other people's mistakes!
beagalulu2 9 months ago