I studied music from Greek, Persian and Indian traditions (you may listen to “Ecos de Ahiri-lalita” which is based on a Indian raga, but the guitar is tuned in a traditional way).
For Microtonal Nº 1 I was inspired on western modern composers, mainly Krzysztof Penderecki, Giörgy Ligeti, La Monte Young and the book written by Alois Hába on microtonal harmony. Chinese contemporary composer Tan Dun is also a source of inspiration.
No one should be allowed to define what music is. If you find this unpleasant, then you don't like the style. That's fine. But don't ever tell anyone what is and is not music. That's ignorant.
I too find this slightly displeasing - but it shocks me how many people don't seem to realise that we as Westerners only hear this way because our musical conduct that has surrounded us since birth is not concerned with microtones. This is a thought-provoking piece of work, which is arguably all that art ever needs to be.
i dont care what scale or tuning you operate in, this is not an arrangement, or piece or song in any sense of the term. maybe the people trying to engender a musical breakthrough should learn how to play first.
microtonal my ass, two songs like this and then you blast Beethovens 9th about 6 times to get over the pretence of these pieces. It might be interesting thery-wise but when you hear it it's just painstaking.
“Men,” they said, “have seven openings for seeing, hearing, eating, breathing, and so on. “But No-Form has no openings. Let’s make him a few holes.” So after that they put holes in No-Form, one a day, for seven days. And when they finished the seventh opening, their friend lay dead. Lao Tan said, “To organize is to destroy”.
Please, read this a quotation of the parable “Two Kings and No Form” wrote by Chinese philosopher Chuang Tzu :
The South Sea King was Act-on-Your-Hunch The North Sea King was Act-in-a-Flash The King of the place between them was No-Form. Now South Sea King & North Sea King used to go together often To the land of No-Form: He treated them well. So they consulted together They thought up a good turn, A pleasant surprise, for No-Form in token of appreciation.
I envy how you hear this world. I don't know much about music but the mysterious harmony hidden in your music made me feel very happy. Please DO upload more.
The same occurred when English people arrived in India. Europeans have a chromatic scale of 12 notes, Carnatic South Indian traditional music has a total scale of 22 notes. Notes singed and played by Indian musicians that were outside the European listening habits (around 10 notes) were perceived as being out of tone or out of tune. Now musicologists know that there are many tuning systems around the world and are opening their minds to it.
Thumbs up. What's the deal with all the hate? Dude is doing something different. If you want vanilla thoughtless music, Justin Beiber could always use some more fans....
That sounds pretty much like you have a drunken cat walking over a guitar while your 1 year old babyboy is trying to catch him. Please tell me you are trolling....
seems to me that this guy spends more time studying and creating music than he does looking at mindless message board posts and probably doesn't even know (or care) about what trolling is.
The people leaving negative comments probably find it weird.,.. Which is odd, because on the global scale of musical creation, western music is perhaps the only practice which never fully embraced micro tonal scales...
There are a few billion people who'd listen to a major scale and wonder "Where's the rest of the notes!?!?!?!"
Why aren't there as many bad comments on this video as on other guitar videos and songs that really fucking sucks?! Doesn't any one see that this is just a pile of random notes?!
I don't Think one should have to have to have a PHD in harmonic theory to enjoy music.
Good "Music" doesn't need much explanation, it's ability to communicate Transcends
language or logic... Sure this music is correct in theory, but even the sound of a fart can be assigned a tone value in some scale somewhere. That doesn't make it good music though does it?
Olá, no início eu usei um slide correndo de um lado ao outro nas primeiras cordas. A harmonia poderia ser resumidamente explicada como atonal, isto é, sem fixar nenhuma tonalidade. Cada nota vale pelo seu som. Este tipo de improviso costuma ser chamado de "improvisação livre". Grande abraço!
Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
If you like onomatopoeia I suggest listening to vocal music by John Cage. This one you can find on You Tube: "Aria" (by John Cage), sang by Claron McFadden. You can find too: "Stripsody" by Cathy Berberian, interpreted by herself.
Here's an idea. If I get an odd instrument, tune it in a weird way, and play it in a semi-random way, it will be art. And if people point out that it sounds HORRIBLE, I'll call them uncultured and close-minded...despite the inescapable fact that it SOUNDS HORRIBLE!
Acquired taste bro. Discovered atonality with Hindemith, and microtonal music through Stockhausen in high school and it's been a love of mine for a while now. I wouldn't call you uncultured at all but for "inescapable fact", as if some of us don't actually enjoy this, I think you've earned the closed-minded title.
Working on the basis that music should stir emotions I'm afraid the only emotion I find activated is the urge to laugh - only I get the feeling you're supposed to take this very very seriously - and maybe that's where the problem lies.... there's no joy being expressed by the player, so how can the listener receive any?
@ferlemato It seems I provoked a little more reaction that the usual "it sounds like a piano falling down stairs" comment. Excuse me while I generalise a little - a common feature of "music" from around the world is repetition and pattern, repetition in music involves iterations as a sequence of notes (from whatever tonal scale or non tonal scale) is developed and spun. Like a thread this forms the Weft that weaves through the Warp of rhythm that holds the piece together. This piece doesn't!
@ziggerzag101 how do you know! he may have the biggest smile on his face during this song. and all music isn't supposed to express joy. some expresses sadness some love. this music could express suspense.
@ziggerzag101 who says music should make you feel joy? Perhaps this music is meant to challenge what you think music should do. Isn't that interesting?
Hi, you may read my own explanation about microtonal experimental music below.
You may listen to this music: Anaklasis, written by Krzysztof Penderecki in 1959.
There are many musicians dedicated to non-tonal music from later 19th century. I suppose the first one was Franz Liszt. His "Bagatelle Sans Tonalité" (1885) is the first named atonal music.
I'm dedicated to tonal and modal music as well, as you can see on my piece named "Y-Îara".
I came here open minded, and leave here dissapointed. African music uses a lot of micro tonal tunings, like tuning some notes down 20 or 40 cents and leaving others "westernized" and that it very pleasing to the ear. This sounds like a 10 year old just messing around. If somebody has any micro tonal music they think is better, please comment with a link. I'm still interested in this.
my reaction to this is that it must have been made by someone looking for something ultra-hip or merely 'interesting' in lieu of something profoundly touching. True we're conditioned to only want to hear 12 notes, but that's the system we were born into. It doesn't matter how we organize sound if we can't reach our audience. There's nothing wrong with organizing sounds atonally, but it's not more advanced because people can't translate this into feelings, like writing in a language no one speaks
I didn't expect to find here so many reactionary comments. I guess there is just a lot of wannabe guitarists out there playing the same-old-same-old, and who are unable to listen to sounds as sounds. What this guitarist here is doing is to provide his take on a definite tuning system in an improvisational style, tending to sound art. Let me assure you -- if you think, for a moment, that this is not music; this is not 'civilised'; or this doesn't require technique, then you're seriously mistaken.
@spicyMcHAGGIS9green What can I say? By discussing about the video, we could be exchanging ideas. By calling me a hip mother fucker, you are only exchanging your ignorance.
I want to get this. But to my western 12 note ear, it just sounds out of tune. I understand "slides" and "bends" get into the microtunal realm, but they're just flourishes- not a basis.
Oh no!! My dog somehow got himself stuck in the piano! Exscuse me, I'll get back to this video after I pry him loose!! It's funny how he managed to pull out a few maj. 7th and a dom 7th chord. My dog has more talent than I had previously thought!
@Bajistasintalento704 really you get this! the tuning might be interesting at best but unless you make something that sounds like music it is just crap at best every once and a while you can make out something that might sound like a good use of the tuning but then are amazed at the shit sounds coming form this mans hands
@Bajistasintalento704 to not u nderstand the the sounds here, or not to perceive them as music, would be a result of conditioning. we europeans are conditioned to perceive the 7 notes of doremi as being musical-much entraining is needed to accept new notes. Imagine how the microtones and bent notes of Blues souded to classical ears 100 years ago. dont like this music
I use a 10-string guitar tuned based on the way of the 10-course pre-baroque lute, as lutenists from the beginning of seventeenth century, like Girolamo Kapsberger and Michelangelo Galilei. The main difference is that lute is tuned in G and I tuned my guitar in E, as usual.
To achieve microtonal possibilities, I group strings in pairs and each string of a pair is tuned in a quarter of tone lower than regular tuning, like that: (1)=E, (2)=B lower; (3)=G, (4)=D lower; (5)=A, (6)=E lower; (7)=D, (8)=C lower; (9)=B, (10)=A lower.
Then, it’s possible to play a complete 24-notes microtonal scale in each pair of strings (for the first six strings, tuned at intervals of fourth). The four lower strings I use more for open basses, like the lutenists I mentioned.
There are many systems of temperament to create scales, melodies and harmony. The oldest I know is the Chinese Lyu System from about 3.000 B.C., which is similar to the Werckmeister temperament (similar to the contemporary equal temperament). The Indians create a system that divide the octave in 22 notes; in the Arab music the octave is divided in 17 notes. In the system I used for this recording, the octave is divided in 24 notes.
I did not use any traditional scale pattern, like the excellent work of Tolgahan Cogulu. He plays music based on the Middle East tradition and it’s for that reason he uses his system like that (in his site there is a good explanation, I read some years ago).
For my improvisation I took as reference the work of some 20th-century experimental composers, as Julián Carrillo, Alois Hába, Harry Partch and Ben Johnston. In this kind of music there is no tonal reference and the total range of pitches (24 in my guitar) is not organized in scales (as Indian ragas or Arab maqamat), but worked as a pitch-set from which every note can be played in any order, with no pre-defined directionality.
In Brazil when someone improvises based on principles like that, it is usually called "improvisação livre" (free improvisation). I suggest you listen some works of Hermeto Pascoal, one of the most creative Brazilian contemporary improvisators.
It would be helpful if the tunning system is explained. Nobody owes anything to the 12 semitone equally tempered octave... yet, any other way of tunning requires a system, and without any (namely, just by using a random set of frequencies for any of the open strings always results in a sound which is out of tune. For microtonal experiments, what you need is the microtonal guitar of Tolgahan Cogulu! I recomend you check him out here on youtube...
@ferlemato I am very sorry, I didn't see your comments from above. Normally I only see the the text that uploaders put together with their upload, and I rarely read the comments.
sounds like noise any child could make at the beginning I will give it another minute to actually sound like music any civilized person would want to listen to.
Thats what happens when one cant sound original with 12 tones.....any guitarist out there will listen to this with a smile, remembering when playing the guitar with fresh strings completely out of tune, and actually enjoying it...for a short while, probably less than 5:58min. By the way don't play stuff like this if you own a big dog..it will probably turn nuts and kill you.
This is really artistic. love it. better than the noobs that try to make 'microtonal metal'. which composers inspired this?
JPjoeperkins123 1 day ago
@JPjoeperkins123
Thank you for your comment.
I studied music from Greek, Persian and Indian traditions (you may listen to “Ecos de Ahiri-lalita” which is based on a Indian raga, but the guitar is tuned in a traditional way).
For Microtonal Nº 1 I was inspired on western modern composers, mainly Krzysztof Penderecki, Giörgy Ligeti, La Monte Young and the book written by Alois Hába on microtonal harmony. Chinese contemporary composer Tan Dun is also a source of inspiration.
ferlemato 1 day ago
No one should be allowed to define what music is. If you find this unpleasant, then you don't like the style. That's fine. But don't ever tell anyone what is and is not music. That's ignorant.
clanbigger4 1 week ago
I too find this slightly displeasing - but it shocks me how many people don't seem to realise that we as Westerners only hear this way because our musical conduct that has surrounded us since birth is not concerned with microtones. This is a thought-provoking piece of work, which is arguably all that art ever needs to be.
AdamWestonProduction 2 weeks ago
Surely this isnt real? Poes law and all.....RIGHT?
TheAppUnderground 2 weeks ago
it sounds like millions of dying fat cats...
xXMetalxLoveXx 3 weeks ago
i dont care what scale or tuning you operate in, this is not an arrangement, or piece or song in any sense of the term. maybe the people trying to engender a musical breakthrough should learn how to play first.
slowhand19 3 weeks ago
@slowhand19 Very convincing argument!
wolverine005 3 weeks ago
microtonal my ass, two songs like this and then you blast Beethovens 9th about 6 times to get over the pretence of these pieces. It might be interesting thery-wise but when you hear it it's just painstaking.
sweeney665 3 weeks ago 2
that was interesting (not in a sarcastic way, i mean it was genuinely)
Tobot16 4 weeks ago
what the fuck is this shit?!
dawp1036 1 month ago
fk BR
CWPify 1 month ago
This is really good man, great work.
TheSquareOnes 1 month ago
@TheSquareOnes
Thank you!
ferlemato 1 month ago
@ferlemato Tabs?
droppeddee 2 days ago
sounds like trying to tune a guitar. too bad, I was expecting something new and fresh.
abelizer 1 month ago
miiinchia, che gran cagata. My sick cat, plays better!
MrMichelangelo3 1 month ago
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sorry if this is offensive and makes me a philistine, but this sounds like a bag of shite
bazbonehead 1 month ago 4
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bazbonehead 1 month ago
Nice hook! And when it goes from the bridge back into the verse...WOW! What a moment. I'll be humming this one all day!
algolake 1 month ago
where is the music? this is only notes done without sence -_-
flochaaa 1 month ago
jeez Ronny North sounds better
berrypossum 1 month ago
Muito bom o som cara. Continue o bom trabalho! Abraço.
Slothropify 1 month ago
optimusprime ligou ele quer a salsicha dele de volta
joao19088 1 month ago
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Thumbs up if you think this is simply unpleasant to the ear regardless of any fancy argument.
cesarvegamx 1 month ago 23
@cesarvegamx I shit on your ears
hea1901 20 hours ago
@hea1901 ... and that's why I can't hear the beauty of this, you see!!
Seriously, it's was just my opinion. But your response it's an insult. Think about it.
cesarvegamx 18 hours ago
where is the music?
amdmg7 1 month ago
Microtonal does not equal nonsense, bud.
SidVicious10101 1 month ago
@SidVicious10101
Continuation:
“Men,” they said, “have seven openings for seeing, hearing, eating, breathing, and so on. “But No-Form has no openings. Let’s make him a few holes.” So after that they put holes in No-Form, one a day, for seven days. And when they finished the seventh opening, their friend lay dead. Lao Tan said, “To organize is to destroy”.
ferlemato 1 month ago 5
@ferlemato No, to make holes in a man where he doesn't naturally have them is to destroy :P
Marlowann 3 weeks ago
@ferlemato I have heard some very good micro tonal guitar. Nothing you say, no philosophical justification will make this music good.
its awful. I could do this with my slide and 7 string guitar.
AnOddMusician 1 week ago
@SidVicious10101
Please, read this a quotation of the parable “Two Kings and No Form” wrote by Chinese philosopher Chuang Tzu :
The South Sea King was Act-on-Your-Hunch The North Sea King was Act-in-a-Flash The King of the place between them was No-Form. Now South Sea King & North Sea King used to go together often To the land of No-Form: He treated them well. So they consulted together They thought up a good turn, A pleasant surprise, for No-Form in token of appreciation.
ferlemato 1 month ago
this is more a random thing than a song... I'd like to see something with sense in microtonal, watch for moonring microtonal...
drnrqsldch 2 months ago 2
sonzera
urukzil 2 months ago
I made these same sounds on my "Polk-O-Lely" when I was 6
Louie1157able 2 months ago
God DAMN!
Ulysses447 2 months ago
Can someone please tell me when the piece starts. It sounds like he is tuning this monster.
movesguy 2 months ago
Ae Professor Fernando. Muito bom! Gosto de experimentar tambem.
angelometz 2 months ago
I can see how people could like this style of music, but it is definitely not for me... just like 12 tone music.
TheBlindJim 2 months ago
My mind ain't open. sorry. Can't relate to these sounds. bye.
axman777 2 months ago
Can you do microtone on a fretted guitar?
skiddlecrumms 2 months ago
Fantastic piece of art.
I envy how you hear this world. I don't know much about music but the mysterious harmony hidden in your music made me feel very happy. Please DO upload more.
floatingAnima 2 months ago
I can play this with my dick!!!
BringmethehorizonXX1 2 months ago
ce cagade.
toagne85 2 months ago
wonderful sound, this is why i love jandek's guitar playing
alexiteric 2 months ago
como assim 119 pessoas não gostam rs, bacana demais Fernando, parabéns?
vc é de onde?
marquesporto 2 months ago
It only sounds out of tune to westernized ears. Open your mind - you might learn something new!
jlbm1985 2 months ago
@jlbm1985 I don't want to open my mind if it means garbage might sound good to me. Even LSD won't smooth this mess out.
algolake 1 month ago 3
tabs please! :D
bryankjah 2 months ago
It just sounds out of tune, and nylon strings sound terrible!
mrjones918 2 months ago
@mrjones918
You don't say that! Nylon strings have a beautiful sound.
TheTelephoneCompany 2 months ago
@TheTelephoneCompany It's a matter of opinion, I suppose. :D
mrjones918 2 months ago
WTF!! wat kind of guitar playing is this not wat i expected it to be -__-
FlangePit94 2 months ago
yeee i love this ... sounds like a puppy play the guitar .... with his ass
jorjatopik 2 months ago
i was playing stairway to heaven, and i made so many mistakes, it sounded like this,
TomPriceism 2 months ago
The sounds of Hell now on Youtube!
kingv911 2 months ago 2
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migueldahlstrom 2 months ago
JUST BECAUSE YOU USE A FANCY WORD LIKE "MICROTONAL" DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY.
robertbright777 2 months ago
OH MY GOD STOP STOP STOP! YOUR KILLING MY EARS! SOMEONE SHOOT THAT NASTY OUT OF TUNE P.O.S!
robertbright777 2 months ago
@robertbright777 thats the point. it's out of tune
patrick1020000 2 months ago
this was actualy produced by someone WTF .
MrSixstringjunkie 2 months ago
this shit is awesome, fuck all of you who think otherwise
Mastafly7 2 months ago 2
sounds like a cat playing guitar
sirjoem 2 months ago
This tripped me out when I was high XD
MarvinLively 2 months ago
Once I've tried breaking my 70 dollar acoustic, and it sounded pretty much the same. Sorry :/
themusicgamer14 2 months ago
what the fuck bro play fucking music not random fuckin shit while going crazy on your slide. i dont care how microtonal your guitar is.
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Klasharx3x 2 months ago
thats what it sounded like when i first tried playing guitar. wtf is this shit?
bodomlad 2 months ago
@bodomlad i definatly sounded better then this when i started lol
jeffclarkemusic 2 months ago
This is absolutely awesome. I wish more people would open their mind to microtonal
interstellartravel 2 months ago 5
@interstellartravel
Thanks for this comment.
ferlemato 2 months ago
@interstellartravel so microtonal means out of key?
BarbaricNotions 2 months ago
@interstellartravel I have no problem with microtonal music, except when it sounds like shit. This sounds like shit.
ChipsHandonJr 1 month ago
Muito bom! Parece que o instrumento adquiriu vida própria.
whenmyguitar 2 months ago
@whenmyguitar
Obrigado pelo comentário.
Desejo boas festas e um ótimo 2012.
Abraço.
ferlemato 2 months ago
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@ferlemato De nada, Fernando ! Feliz Nata e Ano Novo !
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whenmyguitar 2 months ago
this must be what loss of sanity sounds like.i dig it,ha.
thisguy12343 2 months ago
I respect the originality of it but I find microtonal music to sound horribly out of tune and counter to any aesthetic sensibilities
PowerThrash 2 months ago
@PowerThrash
Continuing:
The same occurred when English people arrived in India. Europeans have a chromatic scale of 12 notes, Carnatic South Indian traditional music has a total scale of 22 notes. Notes singed and played by Indian musicians that were outside the European listening habits (around 10 notes) were perceived as being out of tone or out of tune. Now musicologists know that there are many tuning systems around the world and are opening their minds to it.
ferlemato 2 months ago
@PowerThrash Thanks for the comment, which was respectful even disapproving.
There is an aesthetic for this type of music that has already been held for over 100 years.
I guess the sense of pitch depends on habits. When Portuguese and Spanish people arrived in America, they thought native people sang out of tune.
ferlemato 2 months ago
Thumbs up. What's the deal with all the hate? Dude is doing something different. If you want vanilla thoughtless music, Justin Beiber could always use some more fans....
maxstatic 2 months ago
This would go great with a horror flick or japanese garden show.
TruthSurge 2 months ago
THumbz up if u think this would make a killer horror movie scene soundtrack--Verrry scary sounding shit here...but i like it! lol
soufsydemedia 2 months ago
Thank you for let me knowing what I'll going to hear in hell..
edipo1977 2 months ago
That sounds pretty much like you have a drunken cat walking over a guitar while your 1 year old babyboy is trying to catch him. Please tell me you are trolling....
ScorcherTrident 2 months ago 3
@ScorcherTrident
seems to me that this guy spends more time studying and creating music than he does looking at mindless message board posts and probably doesn't even know (or care) about what trolling is.
6dawsvnn1 2 months ago 3
@6dawsvnn1
Thanks for comment.
Yes, I don't care about disrespectful comments. Negative but respectful ones are welcome.
On the other hand, I believe in diversity of opinions (Plato said: "Knowledge is also the sum of opinions"). So I keep all comments in sight.
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ThePostal57 2 months ago 40
@ThePostal57
For those who like onomatopoeia and non-sense words I suggest two music pieces you can find on You Tube:
1. "Aria" by John Cage, sang by Claron McFadden
2. "Stripsody" by Cathy Berberian, interpreted by herself
You can also read poetry by e. e. cummings.
ferlemato 2 months ago
Your 35th string is out of tune, pal.
onemanarmy675 2 months ago 2
ya entendi!! do, luego dosito!! luego dosillo!! confusa? ya me confundi!!!
donnet32 2 months ago
big fucking mega fuck youre mother shit
schiibenator 2 months ago
The people leaving negative comments probably find it weird.,.. Which is odd, because on the global scale of musical creation, western music is perhaps the only practice which never fully embraced micro tonal scales...
There are a few billion people who'd listen to a major scale and wonder "Where's the rest of the notes!?!?!?!"
ChrisBurling42 2 months ago
Why aren't there as many bad comments on this video as on other guitar videos and songs that really fucking sucks?! Doesn't any one see that this is just a pile of random notes?!
alkleiza1995 2 months ago
I wanna play guitar with this guy!
carnygoat 2 months ago
I don't Think one should have to have to have a PHD in harmonic theory to enjoy music.
Good "Music" doesn't need much explanation, it's ability to communicate Transcends
language or logic... Sure this music is correct in theory, but even the sound of a fart can be assigned a tone value in some scale somewhere. That doesn't make it good music though does it?
ghostfleye 2 months ago
cara... esse solo foi meio estranho por causa da harmonia e do estilo do solo, pode me explicar esse inicio mto estranho? thanks man amo violão
vitorsouzap1 2 months ago
@vitorsouzap1
Olá, no início eu usei um slide correndo de um lado ao outro nas primeiras cordas. A harmonia poderia ser resumidamente explicada como atonal, isto é, sem fixar nenhuma tonalidade. Cada nota vale pelo seu som. Este tipo de improviso costuma ser chamado de "improvisação livre". Grande abraço!
ferlemato 2 months ago
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Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
marionetemanJ 2 months ago
This is amazing. Elliot Carter would be proud.
1032974b 2 months ago
@1032974b
Thanks, it would be an honor.
ferlemato 2 months ago
cool idea, unfortunately just sounds like a horribly tuned guitar
Xiphos707fx 2 months ago 2
dude, please put down the slide.
codyahernek 2 months ago 12
@codyahernek
Sorry, but this slide section is the part I like best.
ferlemato 2 months ago 4
IA!!! IA!!! CTHULHU PHTAGN!!!!!!!!!
dljc1979 2 months ago
lmao a bunch of sensless noise if you ask me
JacobyElfbonerWilkes 2 months ago 3
tueng tueng???? dong dong ding dong?
gospeda 2 months ago 2
@gospeda
If you like onomatopoeia I suggest listening to vocal music by John Cage. This one you can find on You Tube: "Aria" (by John Cage), sang by Claron McFadden. You can find too: "Stripsody" by Cathy Berberian, interpreted by herself.
ferlemato 2 months ago
WOW, this is absolutely brilliant. Someday it would be a dream to work with you.
IAmMonsterDog 3 months ago
@IAmMonsterDog
Thank you for your comment! Really, we may work together by mail.
ferlemato 2 months ago 3
Here's an idea. If I get an odd instrument, tune it in a weird way, and play it in a semi-random way, it will be art. And if people point out that it sounds HORRIBLE, I'll call them uncultured and close-minded...despite the inescapable fact that it SOUNDS HORRIBLE!
StoryNClark 3 months ago 3
@StoryNClark
Acquired taste bro. Discovered atonality with Hindemith, and microtonal music through Stockhausen in high school and it's been a love of mine for a while now. I wouldn't call you uncultured at all but for "inescapable fact", as if some of us don't actually enjoy this, I think you've earned the closed-minded title.
1032974b 2 months ago
I'm not trying to troll, but people actually enjoy this?
VtbHawk 3 months ago
@VtbHawk I do! It's definitely not for everyone I'll admit
IAmMonsterDog 3 months ago
Olá, Nola, obrigado pelo comentário. Posso explicar com prazer sobre a afinação. Se preferir, podemos nos comunicar pelo Facebook.
ferlemato 3 months ago
fernando, que coisa linda! não entendi sobre a afinação. você poderia me ensinar? muito obrigado! nola pompeo.
nolapompeo 3 months ago
Tuned in a microtonal way = I don't know how to tune my guitar, so fuck it
spicyMcHAGGIS9green 3 months ago
Congratulations, you've made a bunch of random sounds on a guitar.
This is garbage.
0pteryx 3 months ago
This is the scariest thing ive ever heard
gh2player 3 months ago
PACO DE LUCIA IN YOUR FACE !!, AND YOUR SHITTY 10 STRING SOUND AND STYLE ! oh and you need more sex sir !
globetroter6666 3 months ago
bella cacata!
LeNottidiMashaTube 3 months ago
@LeNottidiMashaTube
Probabilmente si dice ciò che è sulla vostra mente.
ferlemato 3 months ago
This is nice,but I want to hear the fretless piano.
johnakni 3 months ago 3
@johnakni
Hi, my guitar is not fretless, I used a slide to achieve the effect of begining.
You may hear a slide piano (that sounds like fretless) in an Indian music style on this piece "Infinite Reflections" composed by
Pam Chowhan.
You can hear a microtonal piano in the "Blues" from the "Suite for Microtonal Piano", written by Ben Johnston.
ferlemato 3 months ago
@johnakni
Hi again, I remembered this wonderful microtonal guitar duo you can hear on You Tube: Sinan Cem Eroğlu & Tolgahan Çoğulu.
Sinan Cem Eroğlu plays a fretless guitar.
I suggest this Anatolian traditional song: "Yemen Türküsü".
I hope you enjoy it.
ferlemato 3 months ago
okay lisiten to this in a pitchblack room at 12'30..i think im gonna go watch tv
prayersofanathema 3 months ago
Let’s say your “emotions” basis is not mine.
ferlemato 3 months ago
Working on the basis that music should stir emotions I'm afraid the only emotion I find activated is the urge to laugh - only I get the feeling you're supposed to take this very very seriously - and maybe that's where the problem lies.... there's no joy being expressed by the player, so how can the listener receive any?
ziggerzag101 3 months ago 13
@ziggerzag101
Let’s say your “emotions” basis is not mine.
ferlemato 3 months ago
@ferlemato It seems I provoked a little more reaction that the usual "it sounds like a piano falling down stairs" comment. Excuse me while I generalise a little - a common feature of "music" from around the world is repetition and pattern, repetition in music involves iterations as a sequence of notes (from whatever tonal scale or non tonal scale) is developed and spun. Like a thread this forms the Weft that weaves through the Warp of rhythm that holds the piece together. This piece doesn't!
ziggerzag101 1 month ago
@ziggerzag101 sometimes technical skill should be appreciated, and this obviously is not meant to evoke happiness in any form.
prayersofanathema 3 months ago
@ziggerzag101 how do you know! he may have the biggest smile on his face during this song. and all music isn't supposed to express joy. some expresses sadness some love. this music could express suspense.
garywingrove 2 months ago
@ziggerzag101 who says music should make you feel joy? Perhaps this music is meant to challenge what you think music should do. Isn't that interesting?
MrTristanperotti 2 months ago
@ziggerzag101
There's some subtle hilarity here, but first and foremost it's simply EXCITING. No specific "emotions" required ;)
twooffour 2 months ago
aa pero sos un pajero imporante!!!
ferdemare 3 months ago
@ferdemare
No compreeendo no lo que dices.
ferlemato 3 months ago
Hi, you may read my own explanation about microtonal experimental music below.
You may listen to this music: Anaklasis, written by Krzysztof Penderecki in 1959.
There are many musicians dedicated to non-tonal music from later 19th century. I suppose the first one was Franz Liszt. His "Bagatelle Sans Tonalité" (1885) is the first named atonal music.
I'm dedicated to tonal and modal music as well, as you can see on my piece named "Y-Îara".
You find all pieces I mentioned on You Tube.
ferlemato 3 months ago
I came here open minded, and leave here dissapointed. African music uses a lot of micro tonal tunings, like tuning some notes down 20 or 40 cents and leaving others "westernized" and that it very pleasing to the ear. This sounds like a 10 year old just messing around. If somebody has any micro tonal music they think is better, please comment with a link. I'm still interested in this.
alowen91 3 months ago 2
my reaction to this is that it must have been made by someone looking for something ultra-hip or merely 'interesting' in lieu of something profoundly touching. True we're conditioned to only want to hear 12 notes, but that's the system we were born into. It doesn't matter how we organize sound if we can't reach our audience. There's nothing wrong with organizing sounds atonally, but it's not more advanced because people can't translate this into feelings, like writing in a language no one speaks
earlgrey626 3 months ago
Thanksfor this clarifying comment.
ferlemato 3 months ago
I didn't expect to find here so many reactionary comments. I guess there is just a lot of wannabe guitarists out there playing the same-old-same-old, and who are unable to listen to sounds as sounds. What this guitarist here is doing is to provide his take on a definite tuning system in an improvisational style, tending to sound art. Let me assure you -- if you think, for a moment, that this is not music; this is not 'civilised'; or this doesn't require technique, then you're seriously mistaken.
benevenutus 3 months ago
@benevenutus Than what is this supposed to be, you hip mother fucker?
spicyMcHAGGIS9green 3 months ago
@spicyMcHAGGIS9green What can I say? By discussing about the video, we could be exchanging ideas. By calling me a hip mother fucker, you are only exchanging your ignorance.
benevenutus 3 months ago
I suggest you listen to music by: Julián Carrillo, Alois Hába, Harry Partch and Ben Johnston.
ferlemato 3 months ago
I want to get this. But to my western 12 note ear, it just sounds out of tune. I understand "slides" and "bends" get into the microtunal realm, but they're just flourishes- not a basis.
skeeter197140 3 months ago
rubbish
bigkrocmaster 3 months ago
The neck is just too ridiculous. How can it even possibly be comfortable to play?
Neuromance27 4 months ago
puro jugo noma pelao!
areisativo 4 months ago
Hi, congratulations for your dog!
ferlemato 4 months ago
Oh no!! My dog somehow got himself stuck in the piano! Exscuse me, I'll get back to this video after I pry him loose!! It's funny how he managed to pull out a few maj. 7th and a dom 7th chord. My dog has more talent than I had previously thought!
gigwalnutz1 4 months ago
You rule, the 9 people who didn´t like the video can´t understand this, the microtonal tuning is amazing
Bajistasintalento704 6 months ago
@Bajistasintalento704 really you get this! the tuning might be interesting at best but unless you make something that sounds like music it is just crap at best every once and a while you can make out something that might sound like a good use of the tuning but then are amazed at the shit sounds coming form this mans hands
deoss69 3 months ago
@Bajistasintalento704 to not u nderstand the the sounds here, or not to perceive them as music, would be a result of conditioning. we europeans are conditioned to perceive the 7 notes of doremi as being musical-much entraining is needed to accept new notes. Imagine how the microtones and bent notes of Blues souded to classical ears 100 years ago. dont like this music
gtr1359 3 months ago
Seriously what the fuck was that it sounds terrible.
newman015 8 months ago
The tuning system is very simple.
I use a 10-string guitar tuned based on the way of the 10-course pre-baroque lute, as lutenists from the beginning of seventeenth century, like Girolamo Kapsberger and Michelangelo Galilei. The main difference is that lute is tuned in G and I tuned my guitar in E, as usual.
ferlemato 9 months ago
To achieve microtonal possibilities, I group strings in pairs and each string of a pair is tuned in a quarter of tone lower than regular tuning, like that: (1)=E, (2)=B lower; (3)=G, (4)=D lower; (5)=A, (6)=E lower; (7)=D, (8)=C lower; (9)=B, (10)=A lower.
Then, it’s possible to play a complete 24-notes microtonal scale in each pair of strings (for the first six strings, tuned at intervals of fourth). The four lower strings I use more for open basses, like the lutenists I mentioned.
ferlemato 9 months ago 6
There are many systems of temperament to create scales, melodies and harmony. The oldest I know is the Chinese Lyu System from about 3.000 B.C., which is similar to the Werckmeister temperament (similar to the contemporary equal temperament). The Indians create a system that divide the octave in 22 notes; in the Arab music the octave is divided in 17 notes. In the system I used for this recording, the octave is divided in 24 notes.
ferlemato 9 months ago
I did not use any traditional scale pattern, like the excellent work of Tolgahan Cogulu. He plays music based on the Middle East tradition and it’s for that reason he uses his system like that (in his site there is a good explanation, I read some years ago).
ferlemato 9 months ago
For my improvisation I took as reference the work of some 20th-century experimental composers, as Julián Carrillo, Alois Hába, Harry Partch and Ben Johnston. In this kind of music there is no tonal reference and the total range of pitches (24 in my guitar) is not organized in scales (as Indian ragas or Arab maqamat), but worked as a pitch-set from which every note can be played in any order, with no pre-defined directionality.
ferlemato 9 months ago
In Brazil when someone improvises based on principles like that, it is usually called "improvisação livre" (free improvisation). I suggest you listen some works of Hermeto Pascoal, one of the most creative Brazilian contemporary improvisators.
I hope this explanation has been helpful.
Thanks for asking.
Fernando.
ferlemato 9 months ago
It would be helpful if the tunning system is explained. Nobody owes anything to the 12 semitone equally tempered octave... yet, any other way of tunning requires a system, and without any (namely, just by using a random set of frequencies for any of the open strings always results in a sound which is out of tune. For microtonal experiments, what you need is the microtonal guitar of Tolgahan Cogulu! I recomend you check him out here on youtube...
tetoviranje 9 months ago
Dear friend,
there is an explanation of tuning system I used for this improvisation above.
Thanks.
ferlemato 9 months ago
@ferlemato I am very sorry, I didn't see your comments from above. Normally I only see the the text that uploaders put together with their upload, and I rarely read the comments.
tetoviranje 9 months ago
Dear tetoviranje,
There's no problem. These comments weren't there when you asked. I wrote them for anwer your questions and I think it was nice to write them.
Best wishes,
Fernando.
ferlemato 9 months ago
Self indulgent toss
jimbob1969 9 months ago
don't try this at home in yur bathtub
flatw00d1 10 months ago
i bailed at 0:34
ivionday 10 months ago
sounds like noise any child could make at the beginning I will give it another minute to actually sound like music any civilized person would want to listen to.
Astrochronic 10 months ago
@Astrochronic not hatin but just because you dont like something doesnt mean its not civilized
yellowdart6666 10 months ago
Thats what happens when one cant sound original with 12 tones.....any guitarist out there will listen to this with a smile, remembering when playing the guitar with fresh strings completely out of tune, and actually enjoying it...for a short while, probably less than 5:58min. By the way don't play stuff like this if you own a big dog..it will probably turn nuts and kill you.