Hate to agree but the MTV of today would be better if it was no more along with washed up pop stars that can't sing and have no talent. But instead of wanting them to be gone for good there is another option. DONT WATCH/LISTEN TO IT!!!!! Simple
LOL this guy is correct....If Xtians are resorting to heavy metal bands..... they are in trouble! I can sleep well tonight. :) Morons never outgrew santa claus.
So this "pastor" is concerned that 88% of his young people will leave church after college??? Well, given that he's probably teaching free-will religious trash that does all these people absolutely no good whatsoever, I would have thought he should be quaking in his boots if he thinks there really is a judgement day.
they are saying its only 4% because they don't count other Christian beliefs. Its a mentality of believe exactly the way we do, otherwise your wrong and going to hell, and not a true believer.
christianity is not dieing. Its declining in the western world yes, but its rising in places such as Africa, India and China. India and China are especially important because they are rapidly developing countries and increasing in significance on the world stage. Oh by the way, the people touting the big bang theory to bash christianity, just a heads up it was a roman catholic priest named george lemaitre who developed the theory.
I grew up Catholic and stopped believing when the whole molestation thing came out (I was 12). (now 21) I dont need a religion or a god to know what is right or wrong. Im not a big fan of most of the pop culture (e.g. Pitbull, The Simple Life, etc) either. But guess what? Youth has to decide whether they want to listen that or not. Dont replace one propaganda with another. People shouldnt need religion to make them "good" people. Let them decide for themselves.
Oh wow, that church with the 'christian debaters' is two minutes from my home. My best friend played basketball there, and I saw my first set of boobies there. lol
Big Bang is way more possible than a god i would think, and if there is a god he definitely doesn't care for humanity. We are lucky mother nature hasn't completely wiped us out...yet.
The most dangerous people in the world are those who believe they're absolutely right about everything and view themselves as victims of persecution when others laugh at them.
@BillKiernan I think that the mindset of evangelicals is such that they accept only a small percent of christians as "real christians". I don't see the majority of americans leaving religion for at least another two or three generations.... I do see religion as a whole becoming more palatable.
@BillKiernan Me too. I think that intellectual laziness, harmful activities and prejudiced mindsets being framed as the moral right is the issue, not religion itself. It's just that when it happens in religion, it's institutionalized. Likewise though, when something really works in religion, it spreads throughout.
It's a shame; so many concerned Christians in this vid and not one of them explained the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
Instead: Beware, we're losing our kids to entertainment, to MTV and the movies! The answer: Christian entertainment, Christian MTV and Christian movies lacking quality! Just ridiculous!
I'm not a Christian because the church is hip or cool or something. It's the good news!
@TimotheosCauvin Exactly. Did you notice it wasn't "We have Good News, Great News. Jesus came to redeem us. Repent and turn to God. He'll change you and it'll be the best thing that ever happened to you." Instead it's "We're scared, we're losing kids to secular media." They've strayed from the Gospel.
The evangelical christian view is based in absolute ideas of god and man, good and evil, truth and falsehood. Reality is instead completely relative and people are coming to that understanding. So any absolute world view is doomed.
They go to church every Sunday wearing flip-flops, T-Shirts, Blue jeans or shorts, listen to some sappy emotionalism Music....listen to a 37 min sermon....then RUSH LIKE HELL to get to Cracker Barrel FIRST...
@HanniYaudouh What does clothing have anything to do with it? You stupid sorry piece of trash.
Do you think the all important suit and tie sits better with god than t shirt and jeans? You muslim you. You probably came to the US to get better posessions and more money. Go back to your people if you are a man of god. And don't dare criticize us Christians because we are the ones who allowed your people into our country.
the united states is made up of people of all different faiths. the christians didn't "allow" him into this country, the policies did. unless you're saying that all of government and the whole country is christian, in which case maybe you all can stop whining about how persecuted you are. what i can't stand about christians is how arrogant they are. you don't even know if he/she's muslim, or an immigrant, or lives permanently in the u.s. maybe "his people" just want to live how they see fit
@Repoman23 Ok I'm a Christian too and I have some things to say.
Christianity teaches LOVE and ACCEPTANCE but people like you, who are preaching hate, are the reason everyone else wants no part of our faith.
I left the faith because of people like you who told me that I wasn't good enough.
You know what? We all come to Christ dirty and broken, you are no different. Don't assume cause your some white American that your better than all the rest. Your a Christian right? Then your dirty too.
Come on guys, whether your believe in God or not both sides have to learn to respect each other. Were all brothers and sisters at the end of the day whether you believe in evolution or in the bible. And considering myself impartial on this debate this report is very provocative even for Canadian standards, im suprised CBC aired it.
@limoboy3 why should we respect the religious when they preach that we are abominations, trash, sinful and deserve to go to hell and also want to hinder truth and science? Also if you are uncertain of evolution, just research it, you will soon realise that it is fact.
4:40, of course high school grads are leaving the church. Churches are for FAMILIES. Single people (adults) do not go to church. It's mommy, daddy and the kids. Once the kids grow up, they are outta there. Many churches do not understand this. Single people just don't go. Church has always been for families.
around 1:00, I must say that planting the seed is a good thing. And one soul at a time is just how it is done. But forcing belief is something different!
He understands why they want to? I still don't. Rap, rock and roll and MTV want to make me hate myself? I don't think so... last I checked most people put on music to feel better about themselves... you know, a good theme song.
I do have to agree that these people seem less scary and more scared.
I love how these people claim to debate people LOL. I'd love to debate one of them to watch them break apart when thrown in the face of the evidence :P.
I think it's great that there are people in this world that truly want to spread peace and happiness, if they could just ditch the whole God thing, they could win more people. I have always wanted a place for atheists to talk similar to church;a forum of ideas. People have a choice between pop culture and God, most will choose pop culture, so that is what must change. We must not endorse objectification of women, or ignore our wonder of the universe. What people really want is a place to belong.
I've been to those events many times throughout my life because my path is being an every day American, and how can you not experience that? But, I never converted to a believe in God or any religion, because they can't change me. I do, however, respect people's sanctuary. If that is where they find peace, so be it. I feel peaceful without having to believe in the unseen.
I think this series says it all... Christians are mainly entertaining and working themselves up. No one else cares. Almost every Christian I know goes to conferences and worship services like the ones on here but bright and early Monday morning REAL LIFE hits and it's business as usual. This is one thing that is killing the evangelical movement. The other is the disappearance of small community churches. Once the attendance dies off at mega churches people will have no where to go.
This has already happened in many major cities. The other knife being stabbed into the evangelical churches back is the emergent church. The emergent movement has basically taken the Bible, god, and Jesus, out of church and replaced them with a large self help seminar. To me it seems the church is grasping at air trying to stay afloat. It used to be I knew more people that went to church than those that don't but today it's the opposite, I no longer attend any churches, I no longer believe
1:25 right after he says "I don't think you can make a difference" if you listen real closely you can see/hear in their response the truth. Even they don't believe they can really make a difference. You can defend and fight for a cause even if you don't believe it and I'm pretty sure I could clearly hear and see the doubt right at that moment. They do seem silly... I guess we can reference this video 10 years from now... what will be their excuse?
thank god i'm secular!!
halflifeproductionz 4 days ago
You evangelicals will lose in a debate with me!
padude64 2 weeks ago
You evangelicals hate!
padude64 2 weeks ago
I hate you Evangelicals!
padude64 2 weeks ago
You Evangelicalsare sick in the head! Santorum is a bigot and a loser!
padude64 2 weeks ago
Santorum is a hater and those who support Santorum are burning in hell!
padude64 2 weeks ago
I believe in God but God is not like hater Santorum so screw you hater rigt wingers!
padude64 2 weeks ago
Repubicunt evangelicals are ure bigots and I hate you and I will crush you in a debate!
padude64 2 weeks ago
Evangelical republicans I hate for they are bigots and If you evangelicals want to debate me well you bring it on
padude64 2 weeks ago
I am from Pittsburgh and I despise your Bigot Santorum! He will lose!
padude64 2 weeks ago
You evangelicals have no right to judge anyone! Do you understand me?
padude64 2 weeks ago
You evangelicals are bigots and I hate your ass!
padude64 2 weeks ago
Hate to agree but the MTV of today would be better if it was no more along with washed up pop stars that can't sing and have no talent. But instead of wanting them to be gone for good there is another option. DONT WATCH/LISTEN TO IT!!!!! Simple
Sammieeeize 1 month ago
LOL this guy is correct....If Xtians are resorting to heavy metal bands..... they are in trouble! I can sleep well tonight. :) Morons never outgrew santa claus.
larsjake 2 months ago
"Reality is relative; there is no such thing as an absolute."
This philosophical position is also an absolute, so it is now a paradox.
DarthSalsaPants23 2 months ago
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So this "pastor" is concerned that 88% of his young people will leave church after college??? Well, given that he's probably teaching free-will religious trash that does all these people absolutely no good whatsoever, I would have thought he should be quaking in his boots if he thinks there really is a judgement day.
Antichrist1972 3 months ago
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Antichrist1972 3 months ago
This is why music is Haraam in Islam. This type of Worship is wrong.
P4KiiST4N 4 months ago
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Stop the evangelical sects, join thr Church of Christ, the historical Church, the Eastern Church which was planted by Christ and his apostles.
Por0 4 months ago
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We Must and Shall Reclaim America For Jesus Christ and his Father God.
GrandInquisitor7 7 months ago
I'm so glad that I'm an Episcopalian. Evangelicals should NOT represent the Church, they're just louder, hateful and more obnoxious.
samsonbristol 8 months ago
instead of fighting against MTV, they should pray for all the innocent children killed in the Iraq wars their nation has begun!!!
eyesclosed89 8 months ago
they are saying its only 4% because they don't count other Christian beliefs. Its a mentality of believe exactly the way we do, otherwise your wrong and going to hell, and not a true believer.
moodybluesgurl 9 months ago
christianity is not dieing. Its declining in the western world yes, but its rising in places such as Africa, India and China. India and China are especially important because they are rapidly developing countries and increasing in significance on the world stage. Oh by the way, the people touting the big bang theory to bash christianity, just a heads up it was a roman catholic priest named george lemaitre who developed the theory.
jamaicanification 9 months ago
I grew up Catholic and stopped believing when the whole molestation thing came out (I was 12). (now 21) I dont need a religion or a god to know what is right or wrong. Im not a big fan of most of the pop culture (e.g. Pitbull, The Simple Life, etc) either. But guess what? Youth has to decide whether they want to listen that or not. Dont replace one propaganda with another. People shouldnt need religion to make them "good" people. Let them decide for themselves.
valeriebaby 9 months ago 2
I will never understand Evangelical Christians. I'm Catholic.
beyondsection17 11 months ago 3
Yes, christianity is dying.: )
winterstellar 1 year ago 4
awesome CBC report. The reporter is badass. Not afraid to throw a few punches. This is perfect journalism.
xn117 1 year ago
Stupidity is indeed infinite.
azazel166 1 year ago 2
Oh wow, that church with the 'christian debaters' is two minutes from my home. My best friend played basketball there, and I saw my first set of boobies there. lol
xMKIVxVR6x 1 year ago
I didn't understand ANYTHING from this video. These people aren't answering the reporter's questions....
abeismain 1 year ago
Big Bang is way more possible than a god i would think, and if there is a god he definitely doesn't care for humanity. We are lucky mother nature hasn't completely wiped us out...yet.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 1 year ago
What your hearing in these videos is the death throes of god.
DitchPlainsMusic 1 year ago
preaching does make sense but they get too carried away" of believing it"
esara6 1 year ago
They'll never take away my pink floyd and opeth
harmless911 1 year ago 4
This is a good report, it wasn't partial and the reporter was very tactful towards the people in the churches he visited =)
kuurina 1 year ago
The most dangerous people in the world are those who believe they're absolutely right about everything and view themselves as victims of persecution when others laugh at them.
gupsphoo 1 year ago
spiritual rock is horrible. Id be no problem being a christian if I could listen to good tunes.
OttoVonGoenne 1 year ago
@OttoVonGoenne
with u there mate
MultiFagman 1 year ago
"within a generation only 4% of americans will be bible believers." man do i hope that's true.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@BillKiernan I think that the mindset of evangelicals is such that they accept only a small percent of christians as "real christians". I don't see the majority of americans leaving religion for at least another two or three generations.... I do see religion as a whole becoming more palatable.
kuurina 1 year ago
@kuurina i don't mind religion, as long as it's not of the evangelical fundamentalist sort.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
@BillKiernan Me too. I think that intellectual laziness, harmful activities and prejudiced mindsets being framed as the moral right is the issue, not religion itself. It's just that when it happens in religion, it's institutionalized. Likewise though, when something really works in religion, it spreads throughout.
kuurina 1 year ago
I just saw Dr.Phil.... DR. F*in PHIL!!!!
naginnahehtmiolleh1 1 year ago
Heh. "I'm sooooo secular."
That was a great comment xD
This was fascinating. I'm not religious myself, and I didn't know some of these things about what Evangelicals actually do.
KazigluTepes 1 year ago
Spreading lies
lizichell 1 year ago
religion is bondage
B4mytyme 2 years ago
Billions of years ago God made a divine plan. So what the point in trying to convert people / praying if Gods going to do what he wants anyway?!
- George Carlin
purecork 2 years ago 5
smoke some weed and youll be a liberal too... before weed i never thought about my judaism
i didnt even know the story... thats why im now a very happy atheist (you might become something else)(just please think about what YOU belive)
wildboy789789 2 years ago 3
tune out, tune off? more like turn on, tune in, drop out lol
byronissexy 2 years ago 8
jesus christ
apucci6232 2 years ago
It's a shame; so many concerned Christians in this vid and not one of them explained the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
Instead: Beware, we're losing our kids to entertainment, to MTV and the movies! The answer: Christian entertainment, Christian MTV and Christian movies lacking quality! Just ridiculous!
I'm not a Christian because the church is hip or cool or something. It's the good news!
Be reconciled to God!
TimotheosCauvin 2 years ago 2
@TimotheosCauvin Exactly. Did you notice it wasn't "We have Good News, Great News. Jesus came to redeem us. Repent and turn to God. He'll change you and it'll be the best thing that ever happened to you." Instead it's "We're scared, we're losing kids to secular media." They've strayed from the Gospel.
xander7ful 1 year ago
The evangelical christian view is based in absolute ideas of god and man, good and evil, truth and falsehood. Reality is instead completely relative and people are coming to that understanding. So any absolute world view is doomed.
tonygem 2 years ago 17
The art by Edvard Munch is something bad? How stupid can these people be?
Cthulttio 2 years ago 2
Accusing people with different beliefs as terrorist is an insult.
gerjaison 2 years ago 3
GTA was in there lol
nord10 2 years ago
Christians need to save their wallets first in order to save the world!!!
papaesceptico 2 years ago
Evangelical Christians are fake.
They go to church every Sunday wearing flip-flops, T-Shirts, Blue jeans or shorts, listen to some sappy emotionalism Music....listen to a 37 min sermon....then RUSH LIKE HELL to get to Cracker Barrel FIRST...
Sad fake emotinalistic religion.....
HanniYaudouh 2 years ago 6
@HanniYaudouh What does clothing have anything to do with it? You stupid sorry piece of trash.
Do you think the all important suit and tie sits better with god than t shirt and jeans? You muslim you. You probably came to the US to get better posessions and more money. Go back to your people if you are a man of god. And don't dare criticize us Christians because we are the ones who allowed your people into our country.
Repoman23 2 years ago
You Racist Devil. You think you can put me down because of my skin colour and my religion?
Go burn you crosses you KKK bastard.
Racist Devil
HanniYaudouh 2 years ago
the united states is made up of people of all different faiths. the christians didn't "allow" him into this country, the policies did. unless you're saying that all of government and the whole country is christian, in which case maybe you all can stop whining about how persecuted you are. what i can't stand about christians is how arrogant they are. you don't even know if he/she's muslim, or an immigrant, or lives permanently in the u.s. maybe "his people" just want to live how they see fit
afterthat1123 2 years ago
@Repoman23 Ok I'm a Christian too and I have some things to say.
Christianity teaches LOVE and ACCEPTANCE but people like you, who are preaching hate, are the reason everyone else wants no part of our faith.
I left the faith because of people like you who told me that I wasn't good enough.
You know what? We all come to Christ dirty and broken, you are no different. Don't assume cause your some white American that your better than all the rest. Your a Christian right? Then your dirty too.
NaturesPhoenix 1 year ago
It's about time religion died, it's
far passed it's experation date.
EpochOfReason 2 years ago
OMG Theirs terrorists in my living room? Im looking for them but I can find them.
JcM944 2 years ago 8
Look behind the couch. Terrorists are sneaky like that.
zakiechan 2 years ago 17
@zakiechan I got one cornered, how do I get back into my TV? XD
dave19941000 1 year ago
Come on guys, whether your believe in God or not both sides have to learn to respect each other. Were all brothers and sisters at the end of the day whether you believe in evolution or in the bible. And considering myself impartial on this debate this report is very provocative even for Canadian standards, im suprised CBC aired it.
limoboy3 6 months ago
@limoboy3 why should we respect the religious when they preach that we are abominations, trash, sinful and deserve to go to hell and also want to hinder truth and science? Also if you are uncertain of evolution, just research it, you will soon realise that it is fact.
smileyraw 4 months ago
@JcM944 this video is terrorism
pieceofparadox 7 months ago
This is a really interesting report. Thanks for uploading it.
Minidrags 2 years ago 4
No prob.
zakiechan 2 years ago 2
Why must they prey on impressionable kids and teens? It's unethical.
NintendoArielle 2 years ago 3
Why do these guys pretend that they're the minority. Christains are the majority in the US.
SmugDarkLoser 2 years ago 4
4:40, of course high school grads are leaving the church. Churches are for FAMILIES. Single people (adults) do not go to church. It's mommy, daddy and the kids. Once the kids grow up, they are outta there. Many churches do not understand this. Single people just don't go. Church has always been for families.
sandbar3000 2 years ago 3
3:40, as a former fundie, I do not consider any rock band to be "Christian". I am one of those that like the old hymns. I'm sooo old school.
sandbar3000 2 years ago
1:34. She should have said, "I can't make a different, but GOD can". That would have been the true fundie Christian response.
sandbar3000 2 years ago
around 1:00, I must say that planting the seed is a good thing. And one soul at a time is just how it is done. But forcing belief is something different!
sandbar3000 2 years ago
He understands why they want to? I still don't. Rap, rock and roll and MTV want to make me hate myself? I don't think so... last I checked most people put on music to feel better about themselves... you know, a good theme song.
I do have to agree that these people seem less scary and more scared.
TheWindClaw 2 years ago
"I am soooo secular"
This guy almost lost me at the start, but I seriously love him after this..
snuffaluffagus89 2 years ago
I love how these people claim to debate people LOL. I'd love to debate one of them to watch them break apart when thrown in the face of the evidence :P.
Entertainmentwf 2 years ago
"acquire the fire?"
Is it necessary to come up with really stupid rhymes to be a Christian?
yogurtking 2 years ago
"planting a seed..." Jesus, will the give up that cliche already? It's always been a great excuse for, gee, we're not making a difference.
yogurtking 2 years ago
This is bunny.
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He wants to save youtube from Bob!
Help him by posting him anywhere Bob is...
AND anywhere he might hit!
garapa 2 years ago
great video, and i agree, when he says "i dont think you can make a difference" you can tell that they arent confident themselves.
Bl1ndz 2 years ago
I think that we all need a holy spook enema. ROFL!
Socrates679 2 years ago
I think it's great that there are people in this world that truly want to spread peace and happiness, if they could just ditch the whole God thing, they could win more people. I have always wanted a place for atheists to talk similar to church;a forum of ideas. People have a choice between pop culture and God, most will choose pop culture, so that is what must change. We must not endorse objectification of women, or ignore our wonder of the universe. What people really want is a place to belong.
stevenweir76 2 years ago 5
@stevenweir76 Wow. This is so true.
purplebearseatcandy 1 year ago
I've been to those events many times throughout my life because my path is being an every day American, and how can you not experience that? But, I never converted to a believe in God or any religion, because they can't change me. I do, however, respect people's sanctuary. If that is where they find peace, so be it. I feel peaceful without having to believe in the unseen.
truvelocity 2 years ago 3
I think this series says it all... Christians are mainly entertaining and working themselves up. No one else cares. Almost every Christian I know goes to conferences and worship services like the ones on here but bright and early Monday morning REAL LIFE hits and it's business as usual. This is one thing that is killing the evangelical movement. The other is the disappearance of small community churches. Once the attendance dies off at mega churches people will have no where to go.
Inqoinf 2 years ago 5
This has already happened in many major cities. The other knife being stabbed into the evangelical churches back is the emergent church. The emergent movement has basically taken the Bible, god, and Jesus, out of church and replaced them with a large self help seminar. To me it seems the church is grasping at air trying to stay afloat. It used to be I knew more people that went to church than those that don't but today it's the opposite, I no longer attend any churches, I no longer believe
Inqoinf 2 years ago 3
1:25 right after he says "I don't think you can make a difference" if you listen real closely you can see/hear in their response the truth. Even they don't believe they can really make a difference. You can defend and fight for a cause even if you don't believe it and I'm pretty sure I could clearly hear and see the doubt right at that moment. They do seem silly... I guess we can reference this video 10 years from now... what will be their excuse?
Inqoinf 2 years ago 2
"I get it: These guys really believe they can change the world- and they also believe in miracles."
Oh, burn.
Good point, too.
DavidWillB 2 years ago