Martin Carthy & Dave Swarbrick The Begging Song

[freakybassful]

Please, remember that celtic music occurs also in certain regions of Spain, Portugal and France. The misunderstanding happens when some people mix states and nations. In such direction, not all music from Brazil is samba, not all music from Spain is flamenco, not all music from Russia is the Hollywood pastiche of jumping cosacs.

[mikie8865]

i love  swarb!

[YrHenGogledd]

so anyway...yes lots of great folk/celtic music from ireland and the british isles.

[YrHenGogledd]

This doesn't really matter, but to prove the point..it gets a bit silly when many people say a folk song such as Dirty old town is celtic, when in fact it was composed by Ewan McColl,(Scots parents) born in Salford, Lancashire, England, and if they realised that they wouldn't say celtic ! as though there was no celtic culture in england, this just shows how little their knowledge is of england and it's customs, culture and heritage.

[YrHenGogledd]

as an example... there are many well known traditional songs which are automatically presumed by many to be of irish origin because they are sung by well known irish singers/bands, but are in fact traditional songs from England.

[YrHenGogledd]

ok, yes it's often mis-understood...England is an ancient mix of saxon, viking and of course celtic culture in varying degrees depending on the regions in the country. This is partly the fault of the 'anglo-saxon' term which isn't very correct for many parts of england.

[Azuriitko]

what is name of this tune?

[wrongsideof45]

@Azuriitko

tells you in the title : The Begging Song.

[Azuriitko]

@wrongsideof45

I tried to find sheet music, but there is very few results when I google even the song name. So I thought it is not original name. I only find one tab, but I want sheet music for violin.

[romcnulty1990]

@Azuriitko Try searching for 'a-begging I will go'. That's the name its usually given

[iipict]

I'm Scottish...

my folk roots are Scots-Irish..and i have the tongue in me to sing them with ease and the fervour to love them with passion...

The Carthy/ Swarbrick tradition of English folk song tradition is one of the loveliest I've ever heard.

[charloteen]

je veux dire, je n'ai pas le même âge que vous, je ne suis pas de votre génération mais la musique folk c'est ça, loin du tintamarre douteux d'autres musiques traditionnelles ayant eu plus d'argent et moins de chance, pauvre musique traditionnelle anglaise, si belle et pourtant complètement sous-estimée, votre musique me va droit au coeur ; Martin and Dave, please don't stop, don't stop please, only it's for me (a poor french girl in the french musical desert).

[MrPozzoz]

@charloteen Je suis d'accord avec toi , je suis irlandais et un amant des musiques traditionelles d'irlande , d'angleterre et de L'ecosse et , comme toi , peut distinguer entre les trois ( j'ai vu Martin deux fois au concert )..... mais ecoute , au moins vous avez la musique bretonne alors la france n'est pas completement prive des traditions musicales ....

[wrongsideof45]

oui, mais gens ANGLAIS svp, non irlandais ! !

[kingkonut]

Not all British folk music is Celtic, it is misrepresented as such. English folk music is as rich and varied as Irish Scottish or Welsh folk music although suffers in it's publicity due to political prejudice which associates folk culture with nationalism, and associates English folk music with Anglo-British hegemony over the British isles, which negates English folk culture as a cultural force because of it's perceived opposition to folk tradition which is confused with political nationalism.

[wrongsideof45]

Your reply should be directed towards some of our continental friends, who seem to confused about it being "celtic".

I'm the person who filmed/uploaded the gig, and tried to point out that is was english.

[neurotic4]

Hmm, I'm not sure whether political bias can really account for English Folk Music's relative invisibility. It is probably more to do with the very positive fact that that England was home to an explosion in popular music (modern popular music) and that the other nations clung on to their folk as a way of differentiating themselves from the assumed Englishness (because it had the production centre if not al of the talent) of popular culture.

[kingkonut]

Yes you're probably right

[MrPozzoz]

@neurotic4  no , no no !!!! We Irish stuck to our folk music because its of immense value .... just as a brave minority of English folkies stuck to their tradtions because it's immense value ....

[MrPozzoz]

@kingkonut Im Irish and a lover of Irish , Scottish and English traditional music and song , Irish music is grossly misrepresented as music to do with the IRA or songs associated with alcohol . The fact is , Irish traditional songs , whether in English or Irish , are strikingly similiar to British when it comes to subject matter .

I have seen Martin twice in concert and treasure him immensely along with Harry Cox , Ewan Mc Coll , The Watersons etc ..

[MrPozzoz]

@wrongsideof45 C'est une chanson ecossaise , en fait ..... M.Carthy a appris cette chanson de Ewan McColl ....

[rimef]

Superbe Duo!

Très Belle chanson! un peu Irlandais (folk)

Vraiment Très Agréable

Bravo!

F.

[lordblighty]

IN-F*CKING-CREDIBLE! Brilliant.

[verrejoputa]

I love them.

[lassiter1299]

Soulful Celtic fiddling.

[autodane]

English.

[babystreetfighta]

Very English!

[tomjoad2007]

Excellent!