Michael Shermer on FSM...addresses lone Pastafarian

[MiniMoore11]

so pastafarianism is a made up religion from a 24 year old who proved a point that you can create a religion you want and expect it to be passed through the court of law in order to teach it to people? wow

[ZachRose88]

Those who claim thin noodley appendages for the great FSM are blasphemers! We long-width believers are represent the only true gospels of His Great Pasta Chef. It is time for us to ban together in holy war against those who would distort the message of his eternal noodles!

[TheSultan03]

The Spaghetdeity did not have a creator, He is the Great Pasta Chef. He is the Great Pasta. His noodle is eternal, ever looping through his holy sauce.  It's only logical! I have been touched by his noodly appendage, therefore He exists! Ramen!

[180DegreeMason]

Michael Shermer hit the main points.

[berserker96]

The flying speghetti monster is not a god he is a DAEEMON!!

[DevilishSerpent]

Ramen

[southsydney]

i wish jessica alba would touch my noodley appendage

[jaseskildsen]

R'amen!

[uberari]

@FluffyWarthog book of fusilli

[grasskobs]

Ramen 

[James92802]

Militiant agnostic - I don't know and you don't eather!

[rooflee]

Blessed is the poster of this video. May sauce be upon you.

[seekfears]

google Doe's Account.

[BarmaidAz]

I wouldn't mind being touched by his noodly appendage. The FSM's too

[DeathSlayer2]

He is totally right. All religions are assigned to their followers depending on where they're born.

That is why the FSM has waited until this time of global communication to make himself known.

We can all discover his glory as equals.

We are all touched by his noodly appendages.

RAmen

[TiredEmo]

We have a Beer Volcanoe, instead of 72 virgins.

May his Noodly appendages be with you.

RAmen

[FireDragons42]

We also have the stripper factories. And if these strippers are fresh out of the factory it stands to reason they have not yet had sex and would therefore be virgins. And I don't recall anything in the Gospel of the FSM about there being a limit on the number of strippers we can get.

[MistressArte]

YOU forgot the Strippers T__T how can you forget the Strippers? They are way more advanced in the ways of love then virgins what the hell can virgins do? We must love the STD free strippers in pasta heaven. ^__^ It's the way of our one true God the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Ramen my fellow believer and YARRRRR ^___^

[RavenBlaze]

We are few, but a powerful, strong and intellegent people!

Besides at least our god is realistic about sex, the FSM says to use condom/protection and acknowledges it can feel very good!

[PassionForPasta]

Pastafarianism is the fastest growing religion in the world.

All babies are born pastafarian. Its the parents who spoil it and convert their babies to another religion with baptism.

[infinityjrh]

HAHAHA... let me add to your idea that all babies are born pastafarian.

How is this done? How is it possible?

wait for it

wait for it

wait for it

..................

It's "enGRAINED" in them!!

[Ramshobraja]

All religions are equally loopy.

[supertroll201]

THIS ENRAGES ME PEOPLE LAUGHING AT MY NOODLY SAVIOR!!!!

The Flying Spaghetti monster could totally kick jesus's ass.

[DSD1v57BG32]

We sha have a pizhad (jihad)

long live FSM

Raman

[anonimoculto]

@supertroll201 Take some beer and some strippers to calm anger, and be comprehensive: they were not touched by his Noodly Apendage yet, but one they they will be! FSB be with us! RAmen!

[doodsblog]

do the pastamonster and the flying speghetti monster get it a dual on in the middle of this lecture // because if not, and theres no strong coffee , this lecture could put one to sleep

[kombajndosalatek]

with all due respect to mr skeptic (which I like, he's funny and quite open-minded),

muslims DO ACCEPT Jesus as their prophet.

You, sir, should lurk moar!!

[Chiungalla79]

He only said that mohamed was the LAST prophet. He didn't said that jesus is no prophet for the muslims. And since mohamed lived after jesus, he is perfectly right on that topic.

[guidobambino]

this guy is an idiot who uses old refuted arguments

[drainey32798]

Why don't you try to refute them, then? No one is interested in your beliefs unless you provide evidence for them.

[guidobambino]

omg this guy is intellectually atrocious are you kidding me? you think this guy makes good arguments? look, there's so much that can be easily refuted, and i only have so many characters. ill go with the argument that the universe is a possible uncaused entity. number 1, that runs right in the face of the overwhelming weight of the scientific evidence. number 2, its philosophically unsound, because it would entail an infinite number of equally spaced time intervals in the past. i could go on.

[guidobambino]

okay, as for the scientific evidence, people like steven hawking agree that the universe began to exist a finite time ago. likewise, having a past infinite universe is logically incoherent. it is impossible for the universe to be past infinite because that would imply that there was an infinite amount of time before the present. but logically, that would mean that the present would never have occurred, which is absurd.

[drainey32798]

guidobambino. I actually agree with almost everything you said. I just get upset when people make blanket statements without providing any evidence.

Some things come to mind tho: 1) due to our evidence for the big bang, it seems unlikely the universe is infinite; but why does something that "begins" always need a cause? Maybe the universe began spontaneously (I don't claim to know). And how does positing god solve the riddle? Doesn't that just raise new questions about the nature of god?

[guidobambino]

okay. the question you raise is important. how do we know that things cant spontaneously begin to exist. well for three reasons we are justified in believing that they dont. 1- it seems a first law of metaphysics that out of nothing, nothing comes. 2- there is not one example in all of our individual and collective experiences of something coming into being from nothing 3-if something could come into being out of nothing, its inexplicable why anything and everything doesnt come into being

[guidobambino]

uncaused out of absolutely nothing.

when considering that the cause of the universe must be spaceless, timeless, matterless, etc. one sees that only minds or abstract objects can fit that description. but since abstract objects dont cause anything, we're left with the cause of the universe as a mind.

[drainey32798]

I'm with you on everything except your last para. The idea of a first cause that's spaceless, timeless, matterless, a mind, etc seems just as silly to me as a spontaneous big bang or infinite universe. Setting aside your notion of a "mind" existing apart from matter (for which I have seen no evidence), I am immediately suspicious of explanations that appeal to spaceless, timeless, matterless things.

[guidobambino]

well, by the very nature of the case, since the creation of the universe entails the creation of space, time, matter, and energy, the cause of the universe, whatever it may be, must be by definition spaceless, timeless, etc.

so the question is what conclusion can be drawn? well, given that our best rational processes can only produce two things that fit that description -- minds or abstract objects. and since by definition abstract objects dont cause anything, the best explanation is a mind.

[guidobambino]

now the counterargument seems to be "well, there could be something we havent discovered that fits that description."

now that may be true, though highly unlikely, but the fact is that at this present time, the best conclusion to be made is that a mind is the most plausible cause of the universe.

new information and discoveries can always arise and change the landscape, but we should still make best judgments with the best knowledge we have now.

[drainey32798]

Hi guido. I'm not sure why, but my most recent posts are not appearing on this page. Weird. Anyways, what scientific principle requires that something spaceless, timeless, etc be created by something with those properties? I am aware of no such principle.

also, can't objects cause things too? For instance, an object with mass causes other objects with mass to come closer (gravity).

[guidobambino]

yeah idk why you're comment isnt appearing either...o well =/.

the thing is that by definition, whatever exists prior to the beginning of matter and energy by definition must be matter-less and energy-less. its more of a logical principle. in other words, if *all* matter exists inside the universe, then whatever is outside the universe cant be matter by definition.

hence since we know that the universe was caused and began to exist, its cause, w.e it is, must be by definition matterless, etc.

[drainey32798]

... In no other area of my life do I find those kinds of explanations persuasive, so I don't see any reason to make an exception on this issue. For that reason, I think we should simply await more evidence. That seems to me the better approach because (for example) if our ancestors were satisfied with such supernatural explanations for stars, bacteria's existence, etc, we'd be in bad shape today.

[Tineafa]

Pastafarians are good to have amongst your mitts. Why? Because noodles feel as good as they taste.

[Elvisdogg]

Could Shermer be a new FSM Prophet?

Could he be the Second Helping of the One True Sauce?

[Sheldonwh]

I have to correct your sidebar, Thru Them. Dr Shermer is the founder and publisher of the "Skeptics Society," not the "Sceptic Society."

[akuyuumei]

Ramen!

[nhhhgfghtyh]

Deny his existence at your own peril... lest we describe where the heretics go.

-rAmen

[TheGeoffalope]

Hail his spicy meatballs.

Ramen.

[johnlewisbrooks]

GET OFF THE STAGE BEFORE I THROW SOME NOODLY SAUCE DOWN YOUR THROAT!

These people are such IDIOTS!

[vysehrad]

Personally, I am spagnostic.

[anonimoculto]

@vysehrad And Great Pasta be present giving us energy not only on Sundays, but in all days of our lives, with god, I mean, good souce! RAmen!

[terry4144]

@vysehrad lol

[Allocator2008]

Ia! Ia! Cthulu fhtagn!

[BlizBob]

Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

And Ramen... just in case.

[Fyuur]

RAmen

[akgregor]

turtles all the way down

[sniggy]

all hail his holy noodlyness! blessed be his giant meatballs. may the sauce be upon him.

ramen!

[EdgarBoffin]

Arrrrrrggg

RAmen

[Hotora86]

Arrrg, that be a jolly good pasta-lubber on that ship!

[onotheo]

Just posting this comment to remind the Sphagdeity to give credits to me for watching this video.

May god's gift of reason and noodly appendage guide our way. RAmen.

[tuyoboard]

I have! Ramen!

[LongLiveAndros]

Hehe, the little Whoo xD

Bless ye for uploading at making me laugh xD

[thruthem]

Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? Please rate and comment.