sifu,great video,thanx for the sharing your knowledge with us, I got a similar kind of bag in my home I am thinking of filling it with newspapers. I had seen it in a documentary they use that to train their knuckles and I do have some knowledge abt martial art so there is no harm in practicing my knuckles but my doubt is if I pin the bag to a wall(brick wall) at my home would the constant punching damage the wall and if so what should I do to prevent it
almost everything about this exercise is okay. tthis definitly is a great way to condition your knuckles without getting ugly, clumby karate knuckles... but still you are not supposed to move back and forth or push yourself away during punching, like shown in this video.
cause right now it seems likie that this person doesn´t even know why even doing that weird wing chun stance.
The hand can drop after you strike with a punch; this is a control technique. In a real fight I wouldnt use more than 2 punches; anything more is just not realistic. No one is just going to stand there and let you hit them.
@trubblman Well said. I try to remind people of the differences between learning and fighting. Learning to ride a bike requires training wheels yet there are no training wheels in the tour de france. Additionally, not everybody learns the same way so it's necessary to have at least a few different methods of teaching the same thing - and this is one method. I agree with everything you said!
His slow motion shows his mistake. If he applies his chain punches in a real fight this way, there's too much time lost between his hits. The correct way is:1)as the fist hits bag, the other hand should already be on the way, to replace the previous fist that landed.2)the punch that hits, should pull back, not down 3)the hands should almost not lose "skin" touch, as they interact back and forth. This way a)the time gap between punches is greatly minimized, b) the front gate is always closed.
@wbelonoha Yes. Point 2: In the video you hit the bag&then your fist goes down to make room for the next punch.This is -I consider - wrong,or at least not the best regarding chain punches;the fist that hits should slide back,*slightly*down diagonally&under,*almost*keeping contact with the newcoming wrist&forearm.The fist hits it pullsback,not drags down, ittucks under the other fist that'salready on its way. It's as if, when the fist pulls back, the 2nd is pushed sligthly dows to make entry.
@wbelonoha In practice, the difference is, the fist that hits, should not go down then back, but almost diagonally back and tucking under. Hope I've clarified.
@Yourjoking999 Yes, you've clarified well. You're right on the points you make; and when fighting we typically do as you say - with both punches very tight and the back one going back on a very tight line. I did this video for people who had never punched before (first day) because I found that when I tried to get them to be very tight on their first day they ended up looping their top hand in a big circle instead of going straight. How do you fix that problem with your students?
@wbelonoha I see. Well, what you can do is, tell them to place 1)one fist about 8-10 inches from their chest. 2)the other fist on top, so that they have both wrists touching, one on top of the other.Then tell them, to start grinding them in a small circular motion(chain punch way),not losing skin touch.Details at this point don't matter, the idea behind them is what we want.After 4-5 minutes of tiring very small circles,tell them to slightly open the circle about 6 inchesfrom their wrist.Cont->
@wbelonoha This, after giving them a 30 second stretch break. Insist, that they still maintain tiring grinding skin touch for another 3-4 minutes, narrowing the circle (but now as I said, 6inches from wrist) as if the are firing rockets from a canon, a tight tube. Once they perceived this movement, give them another 30 sec. break &tell them to open yet more the grinding forearm movement, still visualizing they are shooting from a tight canon tube. This, is what I’d do. -I do not have student’s.
What you say seems like it could work; I'm going to try it out. I've taught many students and I believe that no one way works for everybody so I try in my videos to explain it in a way that appeals to many - even though it may have some technical gaps for more senior people to discuss. Another gotcha for me is that in a video there is only enough time to partially explain one way so I have to decide which it will be. I have about 15 ways to teach punching to beginners (now). Thanks! :)
Is there a difference between being right or left handed when training? I think the object is to build both bone density, and muscle memory...correct? I notice that the amount of force that is being applied to the bag is rather violent. I also note that after making contact with the bag, your fist is dragging against the bag downward, and brought back to it's first position. Is this part of the proper form in recoiling the arm for the next punch?
@TheSeeker0131 good q - As a first week drill I want the student to just move their front hand down instead of looping their back punch up and around the bottom hand. What I show here is one way to teach it that habit. I don't feel that dropping the hand is a violent movement - ie: I would not say to a student "this is a violent move". I say "drop the front hand out of the way so the back one can go straight". The retracting fist gets more efficient with practice.
Is there a difference between being right or left handed when training? I think the object is to build both bone density, and muscle memory...correct?
HELLO SIFU, THIS IS SIFU ERIC, I'M IN SWEDEN RIGHT NOW, I ENJOY THIS VIDEO ALOT. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE COMMON MISTAKES ,I HAVE SEEN THEM ALL. AND I CAN NOT WAIT TO TOUCH YOUR HAND AGAIN SIFU. TAKE CARE MY FRIEND.
NIce little video. I like the comment about the redness on the knuckles lol you forgot about when the skin cracks and splits too thats the worst. Although the new designed leather bags might eliminate that problem. (p s. Looks like your right handed?)
@lawmac2010 : You're right about the redness - so I say "stop when they're redish" and people should therefore stop before the cracking, splitting and tearing. Those things take so long to heal I like to stop before that happens.
The new leather bags are great. They are smooth and virtually eliminate the cracking/splitting/tearing. I have a few of them and the are all very enjoyable to train on.
sifu,great video,thanx for the sharing your knowledge with us, I got a similar kind of bag in my home I am thinking of filling it with newspapers. I had seen it in a documentary they use that to train their knuckles and I do have some knowledge abt martial art so there is no harm in practicing my knuckles but my doubt is if I pin the bag to a wall(brick wall) at my home would the constant punching damage the wall and if so what should I do to prevent it
speedykicks 1 month ago
very cool video!!!thx for taking the time in making it and pointing out the mistakes we all have in common :-), take care
tuneafish1 1 month ago
almost everything about this exercise is okay. tthis definitly is a great way to condition your knuckles without getting ugly, clumby karate knuckles... but still you are not supposed to move back and forth or push yourself away during punching, like shown in this video.
cause right now it seems likie that this person doesn´t even know why even doing that weird wing chun stance.
schulleee 1 month ago
The hand can drop after you strike with a punch; this is a control technique. In a real fight I wouldnt use more than 2 punches; anything more is just not realistic. No one is just going to stand there and let you hit them.
trubblman 2 months ago 2
@trubblman Well said. I try to remind people of the differences between learning and fighting. Learning to ride a bike requires training wheels yet there are no training wheels in the tour de france. Additionally, not everybody learns the same way so it's necessary to have at least a few different methods of teaching the same thing - and this is one method. I agree with everything you said!
wbelonoha 2 months ago
punch like robot any power
2IronFist2 3 months ago
His slow motion shows his mistake. If he applies his chain punches in a real fight this way, there's too much time lost between his hits. The correct way is:1)as the fist hits bag, the other hand should already be on the way, to replace the previous fist that landed.2)the punch that hits, should pull back, not down 3)the hands should almost not lose "skin" touch, as they interact back and forth. This way a)the time gap between punches is greatly minimized, b) the front gate is always closed.
Yourjoking999 4 months ago
@Yourjoking999 could you clarify point 2?
wbelonoha 4 months ago
@wbelonoha Yes. Point 2: In the video you hit the bag&then your fist goes down to make room for the next punch.This is -I consider - wrong,or at least not the best regarding chain punches;the fist that hits should slide back,*slightly*down diagonally&under,*almost*keeping contact with the newcoming wrist&forearm.The fist hits it pullsback,not drags down, ittucks under the other fist that'salready on its way. It's as if, when the fist pulls back, the 2nd is pushed sligthly dows to make entry.
Yourjoking999 4 months ago
@wbelonoha In practice, the difference is, the fist that hits, should not go down then back, but almost diagonally back and tucking under. Hope I've clarified.
Yourjoking999 4 months ago
@Yourjoking999 Yes, you've clarified well. You're right on the points you make; and when fighting we typically do as you say - with both punches very tight and the back one going back on a very tight line. I did this video for people who had never punched before (first day) because I found that when I tried to get them to be very tight on their first day they ended up looping their top hand in a big circle instead of going straight. How do you fix that problem with your students?
wbelonoha 4 months ago
@wbelonoha I see. Well, what you can do is, tell them to place 1)one fist about 8-10 inches from their chest. 2)the other fist on top, so that they have both wrists touching, one on top of the other.Then tell them, to start grinding them in a small circular motion(chain punch way),not losing skin touch.Details at this point don't matter, the idea behind them is what we want.After 4-5 minutes of tiring very small circles,tell them to slightly open the circle about 6 inchesfrom their wrist.Cont->
Yourjoking999 4 months ago
@wbelonoha This, after giving them a 30 second stretch break. Insist, that they still maintain tiring grinding skin touch for another 3-4 minutes, narrowing the circle (but now as I said, 6inches from wrist) as if the are firing rockets from a canon, a tight tube. Once they perceived this movement, give them another 30 sec. break &tell them to open yet more the grinding forearm movement, still visualizing they are shooting from a tight canon tube. This, is what I’d do. -I do not have student’s.
Yourjoking999 4 months ago
What you say seems like it could work; I'm going to try it out. I've taught many students and I believe that no one way works for everybody so I try in my videos to explain it in a way that appeals to many - even though it may have some technical gaps for more senior people to discuss. Another gotcha for me is that in a video there is only enough time to partially explain one way so I have to decide which it will be. I have about 15 ways to teach punching to beginners (now). Thanks! :)
wbelonoha 4 months ago
;o)
WingChunTec 4 months ago
MY bads filled wit nails
assassin1911kya 7 months ago
i dont got a punching bag like this 1....could i use somthing as a replacement?
Alesandros356 1 year ago
kkk, i like que "dont do"
very funny
cogratulations sifu Wayne Belonoha
take care
sifu Peterson Menezes
budahand 1 year ago
Hello Odnowaducha - please clarify. What's wrong?
wbelonoha 1 year ago
Wrong !!!
ODNOWADUCHA 1 year ago
@ODNOWADUCHA lol noob
Yenz0rs 1 year ago
Hi Sifu Ving Tsun. I was wondering how I would hang a 3 section striking bag. I will install it in my garage which has dry wall.
It has 3 rings so what type of hooks would I need and do I need a hardwood board like how you have it in your video? Thanks in advance
jin1818 1 year ago
Is there a difference between being right or left handed when training? I think the object is to build both bone density, and muscle memory...correct? I notice that the amount of force that is being applied to the bag is rather violent. I also note that after making contact with the bag, your fist is dragging against the bag downward, and brought back to it's first position. Is this part of the proper form in recoiling the arm for the next punch?
TheSeeker0131 1 year ago
@TheSeeker0131 good q - As a first week drill I want the student to just move their front hand down instead of looping their back punch up and around the bottom hand. What I show here is one way to teach it that habit. I don't feel that dropping the hand is a violent movement - ie: I would not say to a student "this is a violent move". I say "drop the front hand out of the way so the back one can go straight". The retracting fist gets more efficient with practice.
wbelonoha 1 year ago
Is there a difference between being right or left handed when training? I think the object is to build both bone density, and muscle memory...correct?
TheSeeker0131 1 year ago
@TheSeeker0131 I agree with you. I don't believe there should be a difference.
wbelonoha 1 year ago
HELLO SIFU, THIS IS SIFU ERIC, I'M IN SWEDEN RIGHT NOW, I ENJOY THIS VIDEO ALOT. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE COMMON MISTAKES ,I HAVE SEEN THEM ALL. AND I CAN NOT WAIT TO TOUCH YOUR HAND AGAIN SIFU. TAKE CARE MY FRIEND.
theorto88 1 year ago
Just wondering really. No special reason
lawmac2010 1 year ago
nice video. I like you set it up.
balloo777 1 year ago
I suppose that is a possible way to tell although that isn't how I determined it. Also, I'm glad you liked the question with a question.
lawmac2010 1 year ago
@lawmac2010 I do some things better left and right and others better right than left. Why do you ask?
wbelonoha 1 year ago
Am I wrong about you being right handed?
lawmac2010 1 year ago
@lawmac2010 You replied to my answer of your question with a question with a question. very well done.
when i approach the bag i put my right hand on it to test distance. that infers i'm right handed - right?
wbelonoha 1 year ago
NIce little video. I like the comment about the redness on the knuckles lol you forgot about when the skin cracks and splits too thats the worst. Although the new designed leather bags might eliminate that problem. (p s. Looks like your right handed?)
lawmac2010 1 year ago
@lawmac2010 : You're right about the redness - so I say "stop when they're redish" and people should therefore stop before the cracking, splitting and tearing. Those things take so long to heal I like to stop before that happens.
The new leather bags are great. They are smooth and virtually eliminate the cracking/splitting/tearing. I have a few of them and the are all very enjoyable to train on.
What makes you believe I'm right handed?
wbelonoha 1 year ago