Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier Knock down Round 15 !!!! WATCH IT HERE !! TRIBUTE !!

[jeremy123422]

Damn frazier threw monster hooks

[MyLifeSince1992]

MUHAMMAD ALI KILLED JOE FRAZIER

[onetime504]

Vicious body puncher!

[Lujerus]

Epic

[stillmatic117]

GREATEST. PUNCH. EVER. i don't care what anyone says... everything included, against Ali, 15 rounds deep, THAT IS THE GREATEST PUNCH EVER.

[ezekielwahwah]

@stillmatic117

Sorry but the greatest punch ever was Marciano's after 15 rounds against Jersey Joe Walcott. :-)

[mogliboy93]

@ezekielwahwah -_- kill yourself

[TheSmithDorian]

It's a shame we never got to see the 1960's Ali against Frazier. The 60's Ali was like Frazier was in 1971 - young, fast and with the belief that you can't be beaten. This was a different Ali, still great but not indestructible.

Ali was usually an intelligent fighter but he never was against Frazier for some reason. He was eating hard left hooks from Joe all night here. He had the ability and technique to have avoided many of them but he just didn't do it.

[strictlycomments]

@TheSmithDorian Frazier's style would've presented trouble for any version of Ali. He ended up on the ropes here, bcz there was no place left to go. Ali was a sucker for a left hook & JF's was 2nd to none, and a constantly bobbing & moving target! What would the younger Ali have done differently? Run?! This March 8, 1971 version of JF would've eventually caught up w/Ali in any event. Let's not under-sell Joe, I believe his determination, on this night, would've matched Ali's ability. RIP, Champ!

[TheSmithDorian]

@strictlycomments 1

I'd agree with most of what you say. Frazier's style was a nightmare for Ali. His head movement, his shortness and crouch made him particularly problematic for Ali because of the way he punched. Although Ali was an arm puncher he was able to get some power into his straight punches (mainly his right) but only if his arm was fully extended.

He could only hurt Frazier with long straight rights and landing these at range on Frazier's bobbing head was hard.

[TheSmithDorian]

@strictlycomments 2

Also, with Frazier's shortness and crouch Ali often had to punch down to him which resulted in a lot of these shots landing on Frazier's head, not his jaw. And throwing a straight right leaves you open to a left hook counter - not good if it's Frazier that you're fighting.

What would a younger ali have done? - Well he would have had quicker reactions and much better stamina than this version of Ali. This may or may not have made a difference.

[TheSmithDorian]

@strictlycomments3

What Ali COULD have done defensively however was to keep on the move and circle to his left - away from Fraziers left hook. Instead of jabbing and moving, Ali tended to plant himself so he could catch Frazier with power shots on his way in. And Ali could have kept his guard up - like every boxer is taught to do.

Look at 0:28 and 2:18 - Ali's hands are nowhere, he's just wide open.

I'm not under-selling Frazier though - he was surely one of the greats.

[strictlycomments]

@TheSmithDorian Likewise, I agree with everything you say. Ali Should've kept that right hand up to protect his chin against a left-hooker like Frazier in their first bout, but he didn't, and it was probably because he was just being Ali/cocky. He certainly learned from it, and knew better in his subsequent matches w/Joe. It's a tough call; I think Joe's style presented problems for any version of Ali, but I concede that an Ali w/no ring rust, may have been better suited to deal w/Smokin' Joe.

[vladiator100]

@strictlycomments Well the Ali of 74 and 75 who beat Frazier were better than the Ali of 71. Ali didn't shake off his rust until 1972. In addition to that 74-75 Ali had learned from his mistakes from the first fight and developed a way to counter Frazier's left hook. Remember Frazier beat an Ali who was rusty and as he tired he just layed on the ropes. The 64-67 Ali was way too fast and never stood still, he could dance for 15 rounds nonstop, that Ali might even KO Frazier.

[strictlycomments]

@vladiator100 I agree that the Ali of 74-75 was more seasoned, experienced, and was mentally a better fighter and ring technician due to his experience. I also believe that the Frazier of 1971 would've still been problems for the Ali of 1967. I'm not saying Frazier would've beat him, but he would've surely given Ali trouble at any stage of his career due to his style...

[michaelyouth]

@strictlycomments That, I disagree on. Ali put his hands low, as it is a lot easier to dance in the ring, with your hands low. It gives you a great feeling, and makes you feel like you weigh nothing. It is great for the rythm. Also the reason Ali was knocked down, is was because he threw his trademark punch: the right hand lead. Fraizer's cornerman told him to watch it carefully and throw a left hook if he lowered his right hand, to get more power in it. The Ali of 67 was too hard to catch.

[strictlycomments]

@michaelyouth Beg to differ with u. Firstly, Ali used lateral movement and called this his "dancing". He wasn't dancing when he got hit, he was in an exchange, and his hands were low. If he threw his trademark punch, he may not have suffered the knock down, as a strait right lead might've gotten there 1st, inside JF's hook. Unfortunately Ali actually threw an uppercut, which landed harmlesses on Joe's armpit; as depicted in the still photo of this knockdown punch(JF's lefthook).

[michaelyouth]

@strictlycomments I know Ali wasn't dancing, but if you have to keep your hands low in order to dance, you tend to forget to keep them high. It was his style. But It was really Ali trying to throw a right hand lead. Frazier's trainer gave Frazier the instruction to watch his right hand carefully: if he was ready to throw a right hand lead, he would lower his right to get more power in it. If Frazier saw him lowering the right hand, he should come in with a left hook. It worked perfectly.

[strictlycomments]

@michaelyouth I agree it was his style. He was notorious for his hands dangling low, as I said earlier. He got away with it bcz of exceptional athleticism & an incredible ability of anticipating his opponents punches. He was not in this mode when he got dropped, he was exchanging w/his hands up. Usually a rt lead is thrown as a straight right lead. Here, Ali lead w/a right uppercut. Big mistake, as it lowered his guard even more, as you said, leaving his chin totally unprotected.

[michaelyouth]

@strictlycomments I honestly don't think that it was a right uppercut. I've seen it from other angles and to me it didn't even remotely look like an uppercut. It is not the same right hand lead he threw against Foreman in round 1, but it was a right hand, meant to be as a cross. This tendency was what made him lose the fight, because to me the knockdown sealed it for Joe Frazier, making him the honest and fair winner.

[strictlycomments]

@michaelyouth Google images of "Frazier's hook on Ali's jaw". There's a still b&w photo of the hook landing and Ali's elbow is bent with his punch landing in Joe's underarm area. It's a perfect snapshot of an uppercut. Youtube; Frazier's most "lethal" left hook. It's a slomo from the right rear of Ali as he gets hit. He clearly begins to throw a rt uppercut. He drops his right and his palm is facing up. As frazier connects w/his left, Ali's right turns over a bit, from the impact.

[michaelyouth]

@strictlycomments I've never seen Ali, and I've seen every single fight of his, throw a right hand uppercut like this. To me it still is clearly a right hand lead.

[strictlycomments]

@michaelyouth Don't know what ur practical level of knowledge is, but a right hand lead is a punch that righties are instructed to use on southpaws. It's actually supposed to be thrown as a STRAIGHT RIGHT hand lead. This punch is not a straight right in any sense of the word. It's an uppercut...period! He definitely lead w/it,so it's a right lead bcz it's his right hand,but it's not a conventional right lead. A right lead, in boxing, refers to a straight right lead, not an uppercut

[strictlycomments]

@michaelyouth (cont) giving it the appearance of an uppercut hook, but it was clearly NOT meant to be a cross. You obviously didn't see this angle if you believe "it didn't even remotely look like an uppercut". It looks more like an uppercut than anything else.

[hotstuffandicecream]

That one big left on Ali made me love him forever.

[paulanthony2]

Smokin' Joe never ever received the recognition he deserved, his left hook was the best and most powerful ever.

[calin10908060]

damn he had stamina

[sickonlife67]

RIp smoking joe such a great man you will be missed

[PacquiaoCheru]

R.I.P Smoking Joe,From Italy

[qwikfikz]

on this night, NO MAN ALIVE COULDVE TAKEN JOE. he was the best heavyweight who ever lived for an hour. and he will ALWAYS be the most underrated of the greatest heavyweight champions of all time anytime a discussion comes up. THATS A SHAME. love you, Joe! thank you for giving us SOOOOO MUCH!

[Downman1993]

Joe Frazier, my favorite boxer.

[boweryhester]

Little man whup a big man evah time - if he's in the right, and keeps a-comin'

[dzemsib0y]

mlatio je ovu pičkicu Kleja bez pardona!

[KingMyron23]

The one and only Joe. RIP

[WisconsinParkour]

Frazier reaches back like an MMA fighter would. What a legend

[camere]

RIP "Smoking" Joe Frazier.

[12121149]

Smokin Joe,RIP........

[Deestretch81]

RIP SMOKING JOE!!!!!! :-(

[thejobsoxo]

RIP Smokin' Joe

[CruzadadeInglaterra]

RIP

[harrydeanbentzel]

still the saddest moment for me in sports was seeing joe go  down vs foreman, must've been 11or 12.

[27metube27]

:28 Probably the most famous single punch in boxing history.

[TheDAWES666]

left hook LEDGEND

[TheTabshirEmperor]

RIP JOE FRAZIER

[i0olilovesalexa]

It's not a KO tho as your title implies it's a Knock Down.

Joe was a great fighter I wonder how good he could have been if he had 100% vision on both eyes. That was something it upset him thru out all of his career.