Obey: Afghan Surge Is 'A Fool's Errand'

[fleetingdays]

America is too far in debt as it is. Will China give us further loans for these wars??

[CollegeLyfe23]

Dems said the Iraq surge wouldnt work and it did. It won us the war. Now there saying the same thing here. Can they be wrong twice? I think so. But if Obama is gonna send more troops, hes gotta send the max 40,000 and no less. Either u go all out or u dont go at all. Thats how u fight a war. If hes gonna send 30,000 or 35,000 then u might as well pull out. I think hes making the right decision as far as the surge goes, but i think hes gonna make a bad decision by sending less than 40,000

[noahph]

We did not need to win that war, we were NEVER ATTACKED BY IRAQ. But I do support an Afghanistan War surge because WE WERE ATTACKED BY AFGHANISTAN. THE DIFFERENCE IN WARS BEING LEGITIMATE OR NOT IS WEATHER WE WERE ATTACKED.

[BigOnion82]

If everyone in this country thought like this guy we would be over run by muslim extremist and under Sharia Law wearing burkas and fucking goats!

[GreatSatan1]

You saw it here first folks. TPM TV sponsoring a video where a leftist is calling Obama a fool,

[maximusdecimus888]

If we leave, who is going to control the 500 billion dollar a year opium trade?

[LeGioNoFZioN]

forget you all, America needs to finish this itself, Afghanistan is a NATO mission, as such you are responsible for easing the burden we other countries have borne while you were in Iraq. It sucks but you cannot expect us to carry your water any further. Get in do what you want, and leave how you want, but the sruge to alleviate your brother and sister countries is vitally necessary.

[DillonX]

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!

FROM A VET!

[GreatSatan1]

Are you a large animal vet, or a small animal vet?

[Longlivepalestine]

Good vid.

[PersonalJesus348]

Obey is in his last name... that sucks...

[dfwtexxaas]

Republicans and the Defense contractors who bribe them will never let that happen. Wars mean extra money for their pockets.

[dennist3hmenace]

Ah, youtube ate my comment... I'll type it again.

Finally I agree with a democrat on something. End the wars, bring the troops home ASAP.

But why stop at those wars? Lets bring the troops home from WW2. Do we really need bases in germany and japan, or any of the other dozens and dozens of countries we have bases in? I say bring ALL the troops home.

[poop121]

preach it, brother.

also, fuck this wishy washy talk about whether it's tactically wrong. invading these countries and attacking the population is MORALLY wrong. no one has the gall to say it, in the mainstream.

[CarryANationIII]

Glad to see the FOX news crowd has come around.

[danmanjones]

"much of what we do is a fools errand"

nothing about a "surge"

[dennist3hmenace]

The first line of the video:

30,000 plus more troops to afhganista, good idea or bad idea?

[tra12345iscool]

so do you guys think obama is holding off on afghan because he thinks we need to send troops to iran?

[junkforkaryn]

the only thing we're sending to Iran is a nuke, and Obama is holding off because no matter how he looks at it, there is no way to fix this cluster fuck. every choice will be wrong except ending this debacle and bringing the troops home ASAP.

[tra12345iscool]

no way. first, all the proliferation talks are gone to waste, second the young people of iran are against the current administration in iran. we would kill any chance of a future peaceful iran.

and who the hell gave me a thumbs down? i was just asking a question..damn little kids

[milkgodnl]

I would love to see a tagteam with Obey-Grayson versus Kyl-Lieberman

[JamJells]

God Nam it!

[attnMoFo]

Get out and protest Obama's War and our presence in the region. The American people need to be seen and heard when Obama announces the troop increase on Tuesday, December 1.

Go to: answer.pephost . org (A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition)

or find a rally in your area or start one of your own. It's a good way to meet like-minded Americans and to show your community and the world (with press coverage) that we're in solidarity with peace and a new direction for our nation.

Do!!!

[callouschristian]

Is it my imagination or are Democrats the only people speaking reasonably and sensibly about this quagmire? I'm starting to think the Republican intention is to not just destroy Arab Country's but this the USA as well.

[eros1057]

End the Afghan war. The US has done nothing but support various terrorist groups within Afghanistan since the 80's. There has been nothing but horrendous poverty, brutality and corruption in Afghanistan since all the bourgeois states have been in Afghanistan. Billions of dollars, countless thousands of troops and the most powerful economies have been unable to stem the Afghan crisis. Meanwhile gang rape, kidnapping and murders are affecting the innocent people of Afghan. End this war.

[micahgee]

Indeed.

Support the Troops, END the wars!

[MeteGuebo]

Just bring all our troops home. I love Obama, but I don't agree with this!!

[clnmike]

Time to go, the last reason to stay was if the Afgans got a new president but the same crook is still in office. Cant waste lives on them.

[dogstar7]

Check your paradigms at the door, gentlemen. There's a new Sheriff in town.

The Bush Doctrine Is Dead!

Long Live (tba)!

[frostwolf1]

I just came twice to girls dressed as fairies

[dogstar7]

Rep. Obey:

Wrong on MoveOn

Wrong on Afghanistan

[1019drummer]

yea send more?............lol, we have only been there for eight years and what do we have to show for it.

[tubular87]

Yeah, but it's pretty dishonest how you don't mention that we've not made any serious effort there for 7 of those years.

[1019drummer]

6,7,8 yrs,matters not. Seems to me a serious effort in this counrty considering the history of the region would realy consist of 2.5 million pairs of boots on the ground. A serious effort dose not always amount to victory or even the total perception of what winning is supposed to be.

Cashing in people so the one could say that we made a serois effort dose to me not seem like the rite thing to do any more than lying to the american public in an effort to start a war.

[tubular87]

If 6, 7, 8 years matters not, then why did you mention the 8 years? You're being dishonest again.

Now you say that we need 2.5 million soldiers to nation build in Afghanistan. Sounds like you just pulled that number out of your ass.

You're resorting to strawman tactics saying that the only reason to fight in Afghanistan is just to make political gestures. Obviously you are not capable of understanding national security and foreign policy.

[1019drummer]

wow,hey good for you I did just pull that number out of my ass. Obviuosly your blinded by the notion of some sort of postive outcome by sending more people to this shit hole and are willing to do so in the name of something as trite as "national sec"

30.000 more troops...60.000 wont make a differance. These numbers dont suggest a will to win.

seeing that your a forign affairs expert and have OUR counrtys best interest at heart what is your suggestion? Mine is get out.

[tubular87]

lol Good for me that you "did just pull that number out of my ass." Good to see that I'm arguing with a liar. Glad to see that you consider US national security to be "trite." I guess you are more interested in sound bites than in your own safety.

When you say that more troops "wont make a difference" are you just pulling that number out of your ass again? I suspect that you are.

[1019drummer]

Oh that special hallmark of a loser A name caller.

YOUR USE OF THE WORDS

"NATIONAL SEC" and "FORIGN AFFAIRS" is trite such as yourself AND LACKS MERRIT.

lol hahahahhahahahahha..........yo­u still dident tell us all your idea of what to do reg afghanistan.

Maybe instead of name calling and commenting on MY comments you could demonstarte a desire to contribute an idea that the people in charge of "ntnl sec" and frgn affairs" lol,lol,lol might sit up and take notiice to.

[tubular87]

You again demonstrate your dishonesty. I didn't call you any names. You initiated the name-calling, so by your own statement, you are a "loser A name caller" as well as a fool for doing what you protest against.

If you have a problem with my commenting on your comments, then too bad. You've already said that you pulled your numbers out of your ass, as well as all sorts of other dishonest tactics (strawman, misrepresentation, changing the topic) etc. You're a loon and a liar.

[1019drummer]

national sec and forign affairs,How come you arent advocating invading Iran?

They are persuing the bomb and just might be selling nuc. material on the side this coupled with the fact that they want to dick their neighbors in an all out onslaught. The gov,the ruling regime realy hates this country. You know tubualr 87 fuck it maybe we should just invade the world in the name of national sec and forign affairs.

But what ever happens ....we should send 30.000 more trops to afghanistan.

rite?

[tubular87]

It's not so much about what I am advocating, but about your dishonesty. Iran was never even brought up, so why would I advocate anything about it?

You say why don't "we just invade the world" but don't use the word "we." That implies that it is possible to reason with you and that's clearly not the case. You're just too dishonest.

[1019drummer]

lol....yea ok? lol once again whats your idea for the region reg the continuing of this war and the sending of more troops. We are having this exchange because YOU resp. 2 my comment. This is obviously personal at your end reg my comment.

oooooh well?.lol

I believe we should not and get out.

And you?

[tubular87]

1019,

Yes, I got you to admit you pulled your comments "out of my ass." I've told you that you are not capable of understanding national security and foreign policy and I wouldn't waste the key strokes trying to explain it to you. You're obviously a fool.

[carmie1818]

You can blame your former president for that...he was more concerned about invading oil-rich Iraq, then catching, or preferably killing, those responsible for 9/11.

Btw, I don't think we can win in Afghanistan anyways...it is an impossible country, filled with a people who have known war for generations.

[tubular87]

It's rather childish to say "your former president." He was all of our President. You can "blame" him too, as that seems to be something you would rather do than focus on solutions to present day problems.

You may think what you wish about Afghanistan. I don't think it's possible to reason with you.

[1019drummer]

hahahhahhahahaha.........."dis­honest" nooooooooooo that was GWB and the last administration and the people who have brought us together for this engrosing rewarding exchange I am just opinionated.

[tubular87]

Yes, GWB was dishonest, much like yourself and your admitted pulling numbers "out of my ass" to start at the top of the list.

[1019drummer]

tubular87.................are you a woman I used to date.

lol................If so lets give it another try, I need to reminded of what wanting to kill myself was like.

lol......

[tubular87]

1019, who are you fooling? Firstly, you prefer men. Second, you've not touched a woman except your sister or mom.

[1019drummer]

Oh wow?......wtf?....your 13 years old. I see.

YOU should get OFF the computor your mom or your sister might need it to learn,maybe get a job,a real job or do something worthwhile or productive. Such as finding your real father. In any case..............your owned!!!!!!!!!! NO IDEA FROM YOU FOR US ON THE AFGHANISTAN DEBOCLE.....MAYBE NEXT TIME....hey thanks....lol

Please try and have a great week.

pc.

[tubular87]

1019, nice tirade of insults. The facts remain that you already admitted that you are dishonest. Your comments are pulled "out of my ass." Your words.

So you are a liar, and your angry lashing out about people's families indicates that your mom and sisters are some kind of whores working in a brothel.

By the way, I like how you describe the Afghanistan "DEBOCLE." Let's all take a lesson from the guy who has a child's vocabulary.

[dafttool]

It was a fool's errand just going into Afghanistan thanks to Bush. There's a very good reason why people call it the place where empires go to die. Those who ignore history, do so at their own peril.

[Richardgwm]

End the wars; close our military bases; defund the Pentagon.

[tubular87]

+3 for this idiocy?  Lot of loons on YouTube obviously.