Fiat Grande Punto Abarth

[anassgame]

ITALIAN POWER

[LunaoEdithan114]

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[Dnaracer01]

boring

[Angelosr90]

ahahah la fiat è sempre fiat...x nnt affidabile come a sempre...purtroppo le auto italiane sono queste...peccato xrò,xkè di estetica la grande punto abart è molto bella

[Nannestadboy]

It reminds me of a track at wrc rally championship game for ps 2 =D

[NapoliAlfaRomeo]

forza fiat..forza italiane

[cthomann]

This car rocks. Mine is 1.5 years old. I love it to bits. It's Italian, it's fast, it's furious, it goes like a rocket and sticks like velcro. It can glide on ice/snow and it can swim. And it gets 99 octane fuel!!!

[55512123]

Looks like a 1995 Honda Civic Si

[AdrianoCROST]

@55512123  ROFL

[anagennisi1904]

hahahaha wtf is this????honda power EK9

[simosemprealpalo]

kiodo...

[srkn4]

bendede siyahı var :)

[callagan44magnum]

bellissima........peccato che la fiat in questi giorni abbia ritirato dal mercato 500mila auto grande punto perche' hanno montato male il piantone dello sterzo e c'e' rischio che si stacchi....ahahah auguri forza fiat!!!!

[SantanaJoNes92]

BOAAAH JA MAN APPPAAARTH

[MrChillllaaa]

AABBBOOOO AAAPPPPART

[DJKelzofficial]

my dad has one!! sick car

[hello1471]

Such i beautiful car!!

[fasyaben]

I'm crazy to have one

[hello1471]

same!!! be nuts!!

[aqayax]

Only in pictures/video but in live is different story. Same is with all new Fiat models (Grande Punto and newer) Beautiful car

[marciopepper]

23.000 euros in Portugal! way expensive for this car!

[taldou1988]

it is cheaper and better than the golf1.4tsi 160hp...

[FedeBL4]

Cheaper? I don't think so...anyway you can find the vw 1.4 tsi in two version: 140 and 170 hp. 170's one is better than this abarth engine....

[9mntgng1]

sei italiano?

bene allora ti rispondo: per il 1.4 tsi 170 cv la vw ha usato un tipo di sovralimentazione sviluppato per la prima volta da un ingegnere italiano,su un propulsore(circa 1800cc) abarth,sviluppato per una macchina da rally costruita nel 1985...se poi volkswagen ha dovuto copiare le idee degli italiani è un'altro conto...vorrei vedere se mettessero il compressore volumetrico sul 1.4 dell'abarth cosa succederebbe...

[FedeBL4]

Ti rispondo senza polemizzare premettendo che la Grande Punto Abarth a me piace! Tralasciando prezzo e qualche problema meccanico-500k tra punto e punto abarth ritirate-(ma chi non ne ha!) è una bella auto, grintosa e affidabile.

Sinceramente non conosco nei minimi dettagli il progetto gt-sport, ne le origini, fatto sta che il 1.4 tsi vanta un'accoppiata compressore volumetrico/turbocompressore che riduce notevolmente il turbolag a favore della reattività del motore.

[FedeBL4]

Questa era la differenza che volevo rimarcare. Poi ci sarebbe da confrontare le due auto anche dal punto di vista assetto/telaio/trasmissione, ma non dilunghiamoci troppo.

Comunque mi sembra che qui si stia un po' esagerando discriminando a priori altre auto altrettanto competitive. Parlo da italiano, orgoglioso di esserlo.

Quindi se fiat è in grado di produrre auto sportive con le palle quadre sono solo contento, ma non dimentichiamoci che nel mercato internazionale non esiste solo abarth!

[FedeBL4]

Buone feste a tutti!

[9mntgng1]

esatto...penso che tu sappia che la prima ad adottarlo è stata abarth in ambito dei rally sulla delta s4...una cosa che sbagliano secondo me è che puntano di più a tirare sulle basse cilindrate,invece di scegliere cilindrate grosse(1.6 o 1.8 nel caso della punto) meno "tirate",cioè con il motore che viene sfruttato meno...

PS: devo ancora prendere patente,ma se potessi scegliere la macchina da aquistare sarebbe la punto sport 1.9 multijet...

[FedeBL4]

Guarda, se proprio vogliamo precisare, il compressore della s4 era un volumex, brevetto lancia, che non ha nulla a che fare con il twincharged golf. Quello vw è un classico compressore+turbina.

La questione dei motori di piccola cilindrata sovralimentati(che mi piace particolarmente) ti alleggerisce di non poco il conto dell'assicurazione e ti permette di risparmiare qualcosina con una guida "normale". Lo imparerai a tue spese! :P

[FedeBL4]

Io comunque guido la golf IV 1.6 dei miei con ecu rimappato a 150cv e mi diverto. Se tu vuoi stare su fiat e ti aspetti una guida sportiva, evita come la peste i diesel; anche un 3.2 mercedes(provato) non ti attacca come il 2.4 della stilo abarth del mio istruttore!

Buona scelta e occhio ai limiti di velocità.

[dsito2]

hahaha stupido defficiente ascolta che ti dico qualcosa.... la vw e una macchina extra invece punto ha copiato dai tedeschi!!!! i tedeschi hanno fatto le aut0

[9mntgng1]

se parli di adesso potrebbe essere...vai indietro di venticinque anni però...

[enrico1580]

@dsito2 guarda quanti campionati rally hanno vinto i tedeschi

[enrico1580]

e573 si guarda quanti campionati mondiali rally hanno vinto i tedeschi e quanti gli italiani

[MrCsibrak]

nyomd neki!!! :D

[TumaszPhilip]

jeah but 17000 euros is to expensive i think for that car.. look what cars you can get for 17000.. cars with over 200 hp ...maybe 1-2 years old... like the Audi A6 or something

[lorlai]

18.000 euro.

[dinosmetallica]

yes it's to expensive for 1.4 car.......but it's really good

[lorlai]

yes it' "only" 1.4 litres..but it have also 155 hp. i have the same engine in my car with 120 hp..and trust in me it's a very beautifull and powerfull engine.

[dinosmetallica]

i don't know i thinik about it......because i want to buy a car and i am between fiat grande punto abarth and megane rs 2009.....

[lorlai]

they are very different car...different power..different size different price. if you like the grande punto abarth..take it with the essesse kit that give it 180 hp. the renault megane rs is powerfull but i don't like it. i would take the clio rs

[dinosmetallica]

yes you are right.........i will think a lot what to do....i wish you,your dream became true....see you...

[longlivewhites]

how much does it cost?

[Nicillya]

thats my car in 2 months i get it :-D hurray :-P

[Soulstar87]

to expensive...:/

[MilRom9]

how much would it cost if it came to the US?

[Honzus75]

I love this car. I ordered it and now I am witing, 6 weeks from now :-( Just sold my loved orange Grande Punto 1.4 16V. Abarth is in my heart. Any suggestion how to speed up time ? :-)

[paukeoy]

get a sleep....!!!

[Honzus75]

:-DD good idea

[cthomann]

You'll love it, faster and faster as it gets run in. As much as I loved my Punto Sporting, as much I am bonding with this Grande Punto Abarth after a harsh winter in ice, snow and floods. The tyres disperse so much water, you don't realise that it rains. I really hope the time until you get it passes quickly.

[fountasp10]

i will own one in 2 months!!

[cthomann]

ooh ahh, and did I say, some git in a 4 wheel drive came the opposite way in the water and asked me to slow down by waving furiously out of his window. how can I slow down in first gear in the water, ey? To drive in adverse weather you need a car, not a disease. It's a pride thing.

[cthomann]

It swims well too. I have never been as scared as last night when I drove this new car of 6,400 miles into 30 cms of flooding for about 1.5 km and got out ok, Wow. I have defintely bonded with this car now. Snow - no problem, deep water - no issue, just check your brakes, ice - what the f.... I love this car. Gotta be Italian, as far as I am concerned.

[britishracingbreen]

Hey Hako2004, You might see it sooner than you think as Fiat are thinking of bying out Chrysler I have heard this on the news in UK.

Heres hoping....

[vecnatehii]

Yeah, looks like that Chrysler and Fiat will get some kind of agreement and probably the normal 500 and 500 abarth will be sold in the states.

[Hako2004]

I see these vehicles from Abarth and feel sad. I wish I could find a car like this offered in America. Maybe the 500 Abarth really will come in a few years, but that seems a long way off.

In America generation X and Y are really waking up to minis, an mini hot-hatches, which have always been my favorites. Any sporty mini would sell very well in U.S. these days. Come on Abarth.....bring it!

[290819861]

i'm guessing you don't get renault out there either? cause the megane 225 cup and clio 197 are amazing hot hatches, they'd certainly see a corvette off in the corners lol.

[thepcmaster00]

fiat is the best

[cthomann]

Magnifico, and please don't call it GTI. it's an Abarth car. All the way. Road, I love you.

[djdaterror]

clubgrandepunto . com

[cthomann]

I have not yet met one car on the road which I could not match when I put my foot on the gas. And that is motorway and any country roads. There are certainly cars I can't match, but the drivers don't seem to know where the gas pedal is. On that note, I have a car at a reasonable price which is great fun to drive. I am seriously thinking about the EsseEsse kit now. Because I want to know what that's going to feel like.

[siraff2]

You haven't met many cars then?

[topografer]

Is there any after-market way to disengage the ESP? Have you searched about it. Cause you know i agree it may be the funniest of all gtis today but non-disengagable ESP makes thinking of other cars like 207 rc and Corsa OPC where ESP can be switched off. In standard abarth where the power is ok ESP is well-tuned and engages little but with so many power in esseesse kit ESP will engage so much more. And that's annoying. Also the esseesse kit costs much for me 4500+1000 for the work in greece...

[sspope]

Hey, how much did it cost? Thanks.

[cthomann]

£14,000

[sspope]

Damn, I bought Citroen C4 for £12,300 (in pounds for comparison) only with 1.4L 90 bhp engine which struggles to move the car forward. I quickly realised that I should've bought 1.6vti 120 bhp engine but if I knew about Abarth Punto I wouldn't have hesitated and bought it. It's so affordable hot hatch. Incredible.

[cthomann]

And it's winter worthy, I can tell you now. Can't get that fat grin off my face, with all those people getting stuck uphill in 2 inches of snow. So effing pathetic. Front wheel drive rules. No problem on ice and snow if you take it easy and keep cool.

[sspope]

Fwd cars are safer but for going sideways, rwd is better.

I just need to know what turbocharger can I mount to my engine to get it going and how to do it.

[cthomann]

This car rocks. I am glad I bought it. Autobahn: 220 kph without even noticing you're going that fast. Bendy country roads: kiss your 530D Goodbye. I let my boyfriend drive it once, his verdict: wow overtaking is a joy in this car. See you around.

[topografer]

well offcourse your gti is faster on bents than your 530D:>

[trobi]

Bah, I still prefer the 500 Abarth.

[dedespo]

I really like the abarth but i must say even the esseesse is really slow.Handling is great only because the car is slow.don't you agree that they should have made it a little faster?

[topografer]

Hmm what car is fast for you? Name to me 3. You think its slow because it has 7.7 sec from 0 to 100? If thats the reason i say ok i agree it could be better but the reprises pay you back

[cthomann]

So what do you call a fast car? Overtaking is the ultimate joy inthe Grande Punto Abarth ;>) 530D eat your heart out!

[vataria]

dont you angry that should have made you a little smarter?

[dedespo]

i'm afraid you don't understand what i'm trying to say. I really like this car and that's why i am really dissapointed that fiat and abarth decided not to try to match the clio rs,golf gti,cooper works,type-r category.i know it is much cheaper than these cars but this is part of the decision they made from the start. My proposition is leave the basic abarth as it is and strip the

[dedespo]

esseesse from all the extra weight so that with the addition of 20hp (exhaust,chip,engine program} it can really damage the 200ps category...price it about 25 26 thousand euros...

[cthomann]

oh, and did I say: I can't believe it's mine now and it does turn heads like nothing I've ever driven before and it goes like a rocket. Wow. It's parked in my drive way. See you on the road tomorrow. And it's got such grunt when you step on the gas. Drive, drive, drive.

[Shogun0088]

hey might i ask where u live at......do u live in europe or that area?

[cthomann]

Hi,

Yes, I live in Europe, currently in the UK, but I drive to Germany a few times a year, this is where I am originally from and the Autobahn is what I miss most over here in the UK.

[cthomann]

oooh, ahh, forgot to say I am going to take it on the Autobahn in 2 weeks time. Full throttle and full turbo. The speed limit in England sucks totally and utterly and I am always glad to go home. Autobahn, here I come.

Watch this space for top speeds and fun factor, which is already huge.

[cthomann]

YES, I've got it and it rocks. It's a beast, beautiful, steady and gorgeous. Fat Pirellis, awesome power, overtaking is sooo much fun with this car. I love it already and it's only 3 days old with 300 miles on the clock. I raced a Porsche, for whoever's sake. LOL. I would love to turn off the traction control and see what it does without it. Not managed to power slide it yet.

Yay!!! And I finally found a use for this stupid iPod Nano I bought a couple of years back. Beam!!!!

[cthomann]

Folks, I'll get mine in 1.5 weeks time and can't wait. I wanted this ever since I've heard rumblings of a Punto Abarth. My Fiats have never done me wrong. I have a Punto Sporting Mk2 at the moment and boast 210,000 km on a 1.2 l engine, first clutch, first everything, minor repairs, but now it's time to upgrade. I will have the first one sold in South England in Scorpion black. Love to Fiat and their great small cars which go like rockets and stick like velcro.

Carol

[topografer]

Have fun:)

[topografer]

Ye about the head turning its true. Its because those kind of cars CAN be bought actually. Does it have good handling?? You have the esseesse version??

[dedespo]

''Its because those kind of cars CAN be bought actually''

Easy there mate it ain't a delta s4....

[182elbarto182]

L'auto dei miei sogni!!!

[gkublok87]

and then the abarth grande punto has got a little problem... the esp cannot be turned off.. and that's boring. but, the punto is bigger, it has got more space for passengers and for luggage, and so it is probably ore confortable. they're both very funny cars, and the choice you made is only a question of what you like more, because there isn't one worse, and the other better... i reccomende you to try both them and have soe fun. bye

[vecnatehii]

Ehm I own a Grande punto abarth, and believe me even on a circuit it's almost impossible to activate esp.

We made a test with Alessandro Piccolo, ex forumala 3000 racer, and he didn't have any problem with esp.

It's set in a way that it activates only on VERY Doungerous situation.

Anyway if you want to compete with a clioRS you must buy the SS version of abarth

[gkublok87]

abarth grande punto or renault clio rs? well, from the outside the grande punto is more flamboyant and more original, with all that red stripes and stickers. and then it offers you a very intersting thing, called boost button. you press it, and the torque is increased, the throttle response is improved. the clio doesn't have all that stripes who say "look at me", but it has 200 bhp under the bonnet, and an engine wich can afford up to 7500 rpm. so it is faster from 0 to 60 and faster flat out

[castless]

This car is simply beautiful!!!!

[devinowensthegreat]

Still unsure about FIAT in general, think i,ll stick with my Renault Clio 197..

[tzavametalizata]

renault is a shit , no offence :) , fiat has history , do you know that fiat in 1904 made a car with a 14.8 litre engine 5 pistons and 114 hp ?

[albiz94]

4 piston ;)

[tzavametalizata]

5 pistons

[TomekCro]

well, its true that the 197 Clio RS is better than the Fiat Grande Abarth

[tzavametalizata]

at what ? at broking down ?

[sspope]

Man, renault clio is mile ahead from older models in terms of build quality.

[mntnvrzs]

La garanzia dal mio paese lo copre se compro questo automobile da un altro paese?

[Ennester19]

La Fiat sta VENDENDO a meraviglia, io abito in Germania e si vede una Fiat ogni quattro macchine

[bagiggia]

io ho il 1.3 90 cv.... però l'abarth è a dire poco spettacolare.. poi la s2000 lo è ancora di più...

[randystep]

a dir poco fantastica... senza contare poi che la fiat da sempre è all'avanguardia con i motori... basta pensare al multijet che è stato copiato(e in parte migliorato) dagli altri costruttori.

[OXI591]

sik

[teox93]

ke makkina..........

[kastrykonan]

w the italian style......go fiat go!!!!

[Salmo77]

Price Check?

[notGill]

Forget about all that overpriced supercar bs, I want THIS!

[gixxerdriver]

me 2

[kisetsushin]

Finally that damn scorpion shield will be on cars again.

Now, if they'd only invest more into Lancia again and maybe they'd have something going here.

[Davi02495]

When this car will come to my country ??? Brazil ??? Begining 2.008 its will be here !!! My Good !!! I want Oneeeeeeeee !!!

[thypuntorules07]

i want one!!!! but im stuck with my mk2b punto untill im old enough to insure one :(

[vataria]

there will be also a kit ss

[basso52]

Wow,it's great fiat is back and how,when yopu see the new ones,bravo,grande,croma it's a dream

[GriffkinPT]

Well it's a Fiat, and that's not great... but... the chassis is equal to the Opel Corsa, it packs a 1.4ltr T-JET engine with 150hp (or 170 with sport pack), it's quite well designed and makes a great sound... so it might turn a bit of a surprise ;)

[kisetsushin]

You do realize that Fiat's highest paid employee is Michael Schumacher, right? You probably also know that the Fiat Group owns; Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Maserati and Lancia, and if you don't know how great Lancia is then don't post about Fiat.

[GriffkinPT]

And so? What does Lancia have to do with it? It's a Fiat, not a Lancia, altough in the same group it's like you're comparing a Veyron to a Golf just because VW owns Bugatti to...

I do know Lancia had some great cars, like the Aurelia, Fulvia, Delta, etc, just like fiat had the 124 Mirafiori, 127 Super, Uno Turbo IE but that doesn't save them from the bad image they have in build quality!

[jag3rnaut]

To GriffkinPT :

The saab and opel uses fiat engines , is this enough for you ?

[GriffkinPT]

Yes the 1.3/1.9 diesel engines, but... taking the example of the Corsa CdTi/Punto M-jet, the Opel uses a diferent gearbox ratio and the ECU is made by Bosch and not M.Marelli, and there are more differences; by the way: I work at Opel and I never said the the Grande Punto is a bad car, I just metioned that the image Fiat has a car maker is not the best, and still, altought much better, they're still no mach for the germans/japanese in terms of build quality

[GriffkinPT]

Another thing (hasen't got anything to do with fiat):

- The Audi R8: Lamborghini Gallardo Chassis;

- The Morgan Aero8: BMW M5 engine;

- The Lotus Elise: Celica's 1.8VVTi powerplant

- The Ariel Atom: Honda KA20A engine

And still, a Lamborghini is a better supercar, the M5 is way better than the Aero8, the Elise kicks the hell out of the Celica, and the Atom... well, it's a diferent league.

[olix99]

actually i think you will find that fiat uses the GM engines for its diesel power

[ludek21]

is the contrary

[trisharris1]

in correct, GM uses fiat diesel lumps

[aqayax]

LOL

[mromer911]

150 hp

[diablo29]

Anyone know how much BHP it has?

[CgOUCg]

macchina di merda e gay il pilota che la guida!! buazbuazbuabz

[mandrillow1]

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FIAT = MERDA

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[xhadow18]

FIAT É UMA AUTÊNTICA MERDA...

[89fab]

i love this car! it`s great

[wakeupkosiosko]

lights are from a Masserati and the mirrors are from ferrari 360

[MonsterMickyB]

nah mate, the mirrors are exactly the same as the Alfa Romeo Brera !

[paulwall08]

The front body kit styling sorta reminds me of a GTI (:13 seconds). and the headlights look like squished DB9 headlights.

[albegat]

incredible.....it's very very very beatiful!!!!GO ABARTH...GO!!!!!!