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  • Nothing wrong with the truck, he made good progress, he didn't encroach in the lane, he didn't make contact with you. In fact it looks to me from the helmet cam position that you are positioned too far to the right for a narrow road like that. As far as being stuck in traffic at the roundabout is concerned, so what? he has traffic behind him and he has a responsibility not to be a rolling road block and get on with it. It's camera toting, moaning idiots like you that give cyclists a bad name.

  • i don't see anything wrong. he passed a slower road user at the speed limit and didn't hit said road user. He's just driving. I say fuck the cycle lane. get on the fucking pavement.

  • @JagermeisterDetox I totally agree, stupid laws saying it's illegal to ride on the pavement are just idiotic and should be ignored. The lorry did get a bit close but then the road seems quite narrow anyway. Also, the cyclist seems to be one of the better cyclists out there looking out for peds etc. I think they must be a motorist too.

  • Paranoid cyclist, as you all are. Self opinionated, arrogant, aggressive morons who believe that they have the right to critique other road users practices and behaviour. You will NEVER catch me giving way to a damn cyclist

  • Self inflicted stubborn stupidity. Backed up by likes vs dislikes.

  • if you dont feel save using that route, change it... but stop posting rubbish vids

  • Better than going head on into traffic or driving over you.

  • The painted line, which marks out the cycle lane actually gives motorists a false sense of security and distance.

  • @abermin Yes. I think it would be better to remove the 'cycle lane in the gutter' and replace with a solid white line to indicate 'no stopping'. Cyclists would then feel more confident to occupy the one and only lane without being squeezed into an inadequate space. The cycle lane on this road is an afterthought - a bad one. The road wasn't laid out with this use in mind.

  • @mailpauljonescouk the cyclists have their own lane here, so they dont slow regular traffic

    drivers asume you have your own lane and you will stay there, not swerve across solid white line into cars lane, just because some people are near road edge.

    The lorry is within his own lane, thats all he has to do, you stay in your lane and no problem. The size of difference between you and the lorry makes it feel closer and generate wind force that pushes you

  • If I had to ride on roads like this every day I would Kill myself

    you should move from the rat race dear freind

    and to think you have nothing better to do than put it on utube

    you must have limited fun in your life im sorry to say

  • ride on the fucking pavemeant then you wanker like i do and make pedestrians move outta way

  • at no point did the lorry enter your cycle lane. if you want to complain, speak to the council about making 'your' lane wider. the only person at fault here is the impatient cyclist trying to undertake a lorry in it's blind spot on a roundabout.

    why even bother posting rubbish this on youtube? pathetic.

  • Boohoo, drivers cut off other drivers all of the time. There are just assholes out there, deal with them.

  • hhahahaha, mate, grow some balls, (no sexism intended)

  • IS THIS IN CAMBRIDGE MATE

  • wow you don't half seem to attract tanker drivers! or is it the same guy with something against you?

    as a truck driver myself I HATE it when councils build cycle lanes WITHOUT making the actual carriageway any wider, they just make the traffic lanes narrower. I cycle too and there should be more cycle lanes, but ones like this are not safe for anyone.

  • Dude you then went and stuck in his blind spots for 200 yards...

  • Interesting video, the lorry made a perfectly legal and safe overtake, never once encroaching on the cycle lane.Notice your helmet camera is forward facing throughout, so no shoulder checks when you drift wide.Nice suicide tactic putting yourself on the nearside of a lorry entering and exiting a roundabout. Your road position gave him no oppoertunity whatsoever to even know you were there, had he run wide or had to pull nearside for an obstacle at any stage you'd be toast.

  • ill stick with my mac 3

  • That wasn't close, you pussy!

  • u gotta share the road. stay to the left more chuck

  • if you find that u are too close to the cars and trailers get the fuck to the left, stop being an ignorant cyclist and just use a little common sense

  • ha the usual bicycle riding ball breaker... riding like a knob thinking their on some slalom race track. trying to edge out the truck driver on the roundabout exit just proves you're a fuckwit. truck missed your handlebars by inches? stay more to the left you goose. people like you suck and you know it. so what? that wont stop you will it. maybe a truck will.

  • The lorry passed close to you as he's a lot wider than a car so he doesn't have the same amount of room to swing out as he passes you, if he did he would be swinging out into oncoming traffic on the other side of the road.

  • Well driven truck, terrible cycling!

  • learn to ride faggot

  • Highway Code Rule 163: Give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car

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  • @pp0u1110 I can't believe that this happens in Europe. Can you imagine all the things we need to do for ride our bikes here in Mexico? Thanks for posting this video!!!

  • @pp0u1110 And anything propulsed by any type of motor (even electric, like your wheelchair) is jackpot.

  • The lorry is wide and there was a car coming on the other side of the road so he could do nothing.

  • The problem here is that the at no point dose the driver go over the line. I think a post above makes the point that its where the line is panted that is at fault and less so the driver of the lorry.

  • town/city roads are too small for lorries and idiots like that think that if they are in the cycle lane they can do what ever they want. when youre cycling next to a lorry can u see wats going on in the front? no!! wat if bus or another lorry is coming. they all have to move somewhere. so dont think that you are the king of the roads on your little crapy pushbike. always respect the lorries.they need extra room to manouver.

  • I cant see whats different in this video from my everyday commute in central London...just stay balanced, calm and aware an keep cycling!

  • or grab the truck godamnit thats the only thing to do. you grab on the truck.

  • or get a smaller handlebar

  • no offence but if ur not ready to be close to cars or truck(dude truck drivers knoe how to drive) dont ride a bike

  • to be fair lorrys are 9ft wide and that was an ADR. you wuldn't want to be on the wrong side of the road in one of those when u can see clearly that there are cars on the other side at the time he is overtaking if it were to crash it has the potential to explode. yes give the cyclist room but the lorry driver has done nothing wrong hear

  • Bicycles are a pain in the ass, get on the pavement

  • yeh the truck driver is on his side of the road.. so wats wrong? n at the start when u said inches away where were your handlebars? cause his tyres are 8 inches from your line.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil not true: the cyclist in the video actually pays road fund licenses for 2 motor vehicles but chooses to cycle and leave the car at home much of the time. In any case, the road is shared space for everyone regardless of whether so called road tax is paid. We all pay for roads through general taxation.

  • @mailpauljonescouk

    Funny statement from Harold. I wonder in what country the road taxes would pay the road maintenance :-) ! Let's try to have only bikes on the road: you reduce the painting need by 10 at least and you almost have no damage to the road itself. Do Harold want us to come with him in the traffic jam with our car (I confirm: most of the bikers have also a car in the garage, shame on me :-) ). Cheers.

  • @mailpauljonescouk 'so called road tax' - you are an idiot! it does what it says on the tin you plonker... where do you think the money for building and maintaining roads comes from?! Cyclists add significantly to urban road wear by forcing other legitimate road users to break and swerve unnecessarily.

    If cyclists want cycle lanes (and even as a non cyclist I believe they should have them) then they should pay for them! Cycle tax on any road bike?

  • @HaroldTheGerbil

    Road tax was scrapped in 1937. Vehicle ExciseDuty is not ring fenced for road use either. Ignorant fool.

    It's motorists who think they own the road.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil gerbils are useless vermin -like you ,good choice, even you no deep down your a twat-love it!!

  • @HaroldTheGerbil shut the fuck up u un informed wanker.... a cyclist doesnt cause nearly as much damage to a road as a car let alone anything bigger.... so its kinda justified dont u think? we have to pedal to work while u put your foot down and fail to burn calories, thats why you're a fat naysayer and will die of a ticker explosion by 49, whilst we are still bollock deep, lean bodies intact, fit as fiddles. just cos you're too lazy to put in any physical exertion doesnt mean u own the road

  • @TheRis81 yes it does

  • @dropscale1 whatever u say nancy.... you're probably one of those ninny's who cant drive for shit.... and u think u own the road.... dude, first learn how to drive, then maybe u can lay claim.... even then you're havin a laugh...

  • @HaroldTheGerbil "cyclist don't pay road tax" lmao thats funny!! So lets say he doesn't pay road tax, does that give the wankers like you that are in vehicles the right to put his life at risk by not moving over one meter? Try riding your bike to work, tell me how it works out for you.  You'll probably have more respect for cyclist when you do.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil I am a cyclist, this truck gave as much room as possible with out obstructing the path of oncoming traffic. I live in Australia and have to frequently share the road with trucks, i am all ways on the look out for trucks and if there in one near i pull off the roads or give them more then necessary room. You should of took in to account that the road you were riding on in quite narrow and there is oncoming traffic then move off the road for the large truck to get past!

  • @danoconnell427 You're a cyclist in that you're too young to have a driving license. Just checked your channel and it's all fast cars that go brum brum. ah bless.

  • @zivkovicable I have a drivers license, been driving for 3 years now.. and been cycling for 14 years..

  • @HaroldTheGerbil actaually road tax hasn't existed since the 80's drivers now pay VED which is the tax disc, the road is not owned by drivers, roads are paid for out of government and council tax. typical ignorant driver!

  • @HaroldTheGerbil Road Tax, as you call it, was abolished in 1937! Where have you been man? What ppl pay now is Vehicle Excise Duty. Big gas-guzzlers pay loads. Smaller cars pay less. Electric cars pay nothing. Oh, and cyclists pay nothing too.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil

    Nobody pays road tax dumb ass! Road tax doesn't exist. It's car tax, a tax on cars and other vehicles, not a tax on roads or a fee to use them. It's called vehicle exise Duty. It is a tax on emissions, not a tax on use of roads. Motorists do not pay directly for the roads, do not own the roads. Roads are paid for via general and local taxation. In 1926, Winston Churchill started the process to abolish road tax. It was finally culled in 1937.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil Theres no such thing as ROAD TAX ! What vehicles pay is VED, VEHICLE EXISE DUTY. The more pollution a vehicle throws out the more you pay and ANY type of vehicle that produces NO emissions pays NO VED. Cyclists have not been made to pay taxes since the 1930's. Do ultra low emission turbo diesels or electric vehicles pay any VED ? No they don't !. Electric milk floats you see about on roads for years without their lights on have never ever been taxed neither.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil Sorry to burst your bubble but there hasnt being such a thing as road tax for a good few years so id jump down from your high horse.

  • @HaroldTheGerbil  for fucks sake you dickhead there is no such thing as road tax that pays for the roads and there hasnt been since 1937!! Wise Up!!

  • Well. Later in the video you are passing a lot of cars and also the lorry with abouth the same amount of space and quite a high speed. If it really was so close.. Is that a whise thing to do? I know it must feel scary though. I am often surprised about how little respect some of my coleage lorry drivers have for cyclists. I would maybe not have passed you like that.

  • Unfortunately our societies are almost only car-oriented. It's sad that a extremely useful and intelligent concept as a bicycle isn't seen as a fantastic method of transport and solution for a wide range of problems as air / noise polution, huge traffic and road conservation, just to cite a few. I myself use it every weekend but can't do the same from monday-friday where i live or i could end in a coffin very soon...

  • Also we PAY to be on the road !! (Most of u lot think u own the road and ignore road traffic signals and signs !!)

  • I want to know, have you got "Crisp packets for wheels. :))

  • rivet ...that lorry was about 5 ft frm the kerb, and ur bike is say 2 ft wide at the handlebars right ?..so if the lorry was inches frm ur handlebars, then u were 2 far out frm the kerb...right ?..god u " cyclists" make me sick..luk at ur own video again plonker and c how far the lorry actually is away frm the white line.the driver made a concious effort to give u room , and u say he close shaved you.divvy.all i can say is i bet u got a beard, cos if thats what u think is a close shave well !!!

  • The lorry stayed in his own lane. He couldnt move any further over because there was on comming traffic.

  • so wat :L:L:L:L:L

  • ok seriously, ur the faggot that films himself riding his bike in the bike lane, and then complains when a huge truck gets to close, jumps on youtube and says: look HE was too close to me, HE has the problem, HE should be fined. Ur lookin for a fight if I do say so myself, and you wouldn't stand a chance agains a lorry.

  • I find it amazing how many people criticise Paul for not checking before pulling out when the camera is CLEARLY not at head-height. It's chest or handlebar mounted. He could look back every pedal stroke and you wouldn't know.

    Those cycle lanes are far too narrow. There's a lot like that around here. Slightly too wide to ride outside the lane and be in a considerate position but too narrow to ride in the lane with any degree of safety. Seriously appalling planning by the traffic engineers.

  • move over then plonker

  • You winge about the lorry passing you too closely for comfort and yet at 0:55 to 1:12 YOU sit right on his back wheels. What if the lorry had to swerve left to avoid something unexpected on his right?

    Safe road usage is EVERYONE'S responsibility - not just the responsibility of vehicles with 4 or more wheels.

  • I can almost hear your heart pumping as you strive to catch the lorry that so brazenly overtook you in its unfeeling brutish way,pumping out toxins on its way to deliver more toxins to burn....

    Seriously,get over yourself,life is too short to worry about the small stuff.

  • when i see a cyclist i dont start judging in my head if im gona get stuck in traffic or not, i think wat a fag, then fly by, mr lorry man im nearly sure he cant read the future and if you can(seems that way cuz ur questioning him about why he flew by just to get stuck in traffic) you shudn be using it to teach lorry drivers a lesson use it to stop bad shit from happening, ridiculous how u try make a normal situation into ur a victim of a serious crime, bet ye luv de smell of your own fart too...

  • what did the truckdriver do that is wrong? You are the one that pulls ot on his road ,without scanning backwards. and even ind a full´markedzone . or what you call it ..

    i been ridigng my bike allmost anyday since i was six . and I allso drive a car on my job . so don't write me of as a traffic noob.

  • Hes got his o/s on the white line he has done nothing wrong the road is not wide enough for a HGV and a cycle!!! And you driving along side a trailer on corners is DUMB they cut into corners you know that your lucky i want driving for that i'd of put my trailer through you DUMB ASS!!!!

  • i live in cambridge near sainsburys

  • i live in cambridge

  • Yea, motorists complain us being on the road when trucks, buses love to get close to you pushing you into gutters and dont forget the kurb n potholes but hey thats British cycling life.

    OOO i love it when a car waits to pull out seeing you coming and doesnt move untill your at the drivers side and they just miss you, looking back you see hands raising a finger sticking up lol >

  • Yes the truck was close, the problem is the cycle lane and narrow road. Too many roads are just unsuitable for hgv's, but lorries are forced to use these roads to make deliveries.

  • yes i drive a car and a bus and a lorrie and lots of van's but i have cycled for years in edinburgh rush hour with no problems a few tight squeezes but i find and im sorry to say this as i dont like to but people who "moan" about things like this do not take enough care eg when the bike catches up with the lorrie and there is a skip motor making the gap tight i would drop back and let it go thru first. My advice is expect everything allthe time !!!!

  • yes i drive a car and a bus and a lorrie and lots of van's but i have cycled for years in edinburgh rush hour with no problems a few tight squeezes but i find and im sorry to say this as i dont like to but people who "moan" about things like this do not take enough care eg when the bike catches up with the lorrie and there is a skip motor making the gap tight i would drop back and let it go thru first. My advice is expect everything allthe time !!!!

  • i can see why you have pointed this out but the lorriedriver isnt the only one who "could" be in the wrong as the cyclist took the roundabouts quite harshly almost as if to keep up with the lorrie,

  • @jamysumm yes i drive a car and a bus and a lorrie and lots of van's but i have cycled for years in edinburgh rush hour with no problems a few tight squeezes but i find and im sorry to say this as i dont like to but people who "moan" about things like this do not take enough care eg when the bike catches up with the lorrie and there is a skip motor making the gap tight i would drop back and let it go thru first. My advice is expect everything allthe time !!!!

  • Armpits or nuts?

  • The reason so many people hate cyclists is because cyclists can skip through traffic whilst the fat man in his £65,000 gas guzzler can go no where. I drive and don't have a problem with cyclists except when I am walking and they whizz past you on pavements. Generally you will often find that it is the rather obese type of people who complain about cyclists.

  • This is the problem with cycle 'lanes'. As soon as someone paints a white line on the road, it makes it 'okay' for someone to overtake others so long as everyone stays in their 'lane'. If there was no white line, the truck would probably have given you 6ft clearance. But with a lane, psychologically, he thinks he is doing the right thing.

    Abolish ALL cycle lanes until they learn how to install them properly!

  • when i pass a cyclist i pretend their not even there...... until i hear a bike scrapping underneath my lorry

  • @eddiestobart007

    I am not sure if you are doing much justice for the intelligence of your average lorry driver mate, it's 'they're' not 'their'. :)

  • i didn't remember doing a grammer lesson in my theory or practical test.

  • lmfao

  • So .....the pointto this vid is???

  • whats this mate?? nothing special

  • I'd hide the comments too if not a sole agreed with me .. lol

  • nobody has been put at risk in this clip at all .. ??

    This is the way trafic should flow. One lane should flow independently of another !!

  • This 'cyclist' is an idiot!! All traffic must stay behind him unless theres a ten foot gap between vehicles and him!!!

    Get real !!

    The road is for vehicles.... who pay a fortune for the privelage. You pay toss all but expect to given the right of way at all times!!

    A 'shave'!!?? I would have run you over you tosspot!!

  • nothing wrong with that truck driving were was he close i must missed it lool

  • truck never did anything wrong ,he never crossed in to the cycle lane ,and was keep ing up with the flow of traffic....or is he meant to sit behind the cyclist at his speed .....though it is up to all users of the road be it cyclist ,car ,bus or truck driver ,to use the system safely...unfortunately people who criticise truck driver don't know what is involved in driving them and that all trucks have large blind spots ,where cyclist riding up the inside can't be seen

  • Local driver I know (LGVs) says he gives 5 foot space when going past cyclists due to his size. I know from a recent close pass (around a foot off my handlebar) that the air drag created threw me around a fair bit. This is the reason this overtake was wrong.

    No one has said anything about sitting behind for ever, its usually a few seconds max.

    I agree about cyclists undertaking LGVs - hence why here he held off until the vehicle was definately stationary

  • the lorry was as close to the white line as the cars . it looked like you were going down his inside on bends . i ride a road bike and drive a lorry . i would never do what it looks you did .

  • @cabcamman

    No he wasnt undertaking - its a trick of the camera lens being slightly telescopic (to use its proper attribute description). He was holding off behind the rear left side.Its something a lot of the more experienced cyclists do whilst keeping one eye on the brakelights

  • The video provides evidence that painting a cycle lane in the gutter encourages drivers to pass cyclists too closely - and comments here suggest that quite a lot of people who haven't been on the receiving end of a close pass think this is OK. If the cycle lane can't be wide enough then don't paint it use double yellow lines for parking enforcement. The cycle lane is helpful when there's queuing traffic otherwise it's a hazard.

  • Umm i'm on the recieving end, if you have to you'd keep your left pedal up and almost shave the Kerb with your Tyre.

    I usually ride a bit farther left so they think they have to veer left too but i pull back over to the right in time. I'm from Germany so you'll have to switch "left" and "right" to get the picture...lol

  • OK i admit those lanes seem a bit narrow compared to what we have here in germany.

  • It is a hazard.

    The cycle lane shouldn't even be there, if ya watch all the vid, you'll see he's coming pretty darn close to the cars on the other side of the road, as well as being close to the bike lane.

  • @mailpauljonescouk why do you pull out at 09:00 even without scanning? don't you have a bell so you can make the pedestrian aware of you ... and in the roundabouts . why do you "press" the lorry , just because it's you'r right.. keep back , then you will be able to get to where you are going in one piece

  • @mailpauljonescouk Too true about vehicles passing you too closely when you are in the cycle lane. There should be another solid white line two feet from the other white line. Councils who come up with idea's about cycle lanes have good intentions but these people should get a bike and ride in these lanes themselves and they will encounter what most cyclists encounter and re-design cycle lanes.

  • i care a lot about the cyclists that are dieing, so much that i don't like seeing vids like these being mocked. the ppl that are filming them are doing a great service. all credit to mailpauljonescouk

  • i feel strongly that these should be allowed to be used in evidence. i think it's got more chance in european law than uk, perhaps we could have it that way eventually.

  • I filmedmyself while  I was cycling once. Its not safe.

  • If you use a helmet cam or handlebar mounted camera as I do then what's not safe?

  • Thats a hell of alot safer than what I was doing. lmao. But If you were easily destracted, and wanted to get something on cam, turning your head or your bike to get whatever it was could be unsafe. but other than that scenario.. Then i suppose its safe.

  • @tillyandthepoo of course it is... geeze you did not consider he had a helmet cam, never mind " then i suppose" . some ppl cannot admit they made a mistake!

  • Its called lack of knowledge on the subject.. And who cares? Its the internet. I commented because It looked unsafe. Wanna fight about it?

  • @tillyandthepoo it was the cheek! saying what he was doing was unsafe - while he was filming a vid about unsafe drivers - you have a go about the cam! and when he says i was not holding one, you find rediculous reasons why that is unsafe instead of saying "fair game, i was wrong". maybe u just like being cheeky?

  • You must have nothing better to do, than to be right, and make others feel like they said something wrong, and then nag them until they say it. . Its never wrong to not know something, i simply said I tried to film myself once, and It was unsafe. Then he informed me he had a helmet or handlebar cam. Then I said it COULD <emphasis on the capital letters... be unsafe, if someone was easily destracted. There is no wrong in that. END

  • nope, you said it's not safe generally to film. not that what YOU did was not safe as u are now saying. i just thot it was cheeky to say that wawhile he was filming a vid about safety. it kind of puts him down. can if u could see my point it would be good, but somehow i think u will not. i would not be surprised if u think of something else to say, again avoiding the main point.

  • @mailpauljonescouk yeah, i have a gopro cam on my hemlet. I dont even notice it's there until I see it's shadow. I'll put up my a-hole driver vids someday.

  • downfader, you're so full of shit. i know for a fact that is utter rubbish.

  • why ru going up the inside of a lorry iam a lorry driver and cyclist people like u r fucking stupid hang back he cant always cu in his mirror why risk it

  • He did hang back... And when he did pass the traffic wasnt moving at all.

  • I'm a cyclist and I don't think the lorry driver did anything wrong. If you didn't feel confident in that situation you shouldn't be riding a bike.

  • Large vehicles such as this kick up a lot of air when they pass. The busses locally always pass wider even when driving past cyclelanes such as this - they know that the wind they generate could suck a cyclist under their wheels and drive accordingly.

  • swere thats witorm

  • the truck did nothing wrong there the cyclist was a bit rash at the roundabout keeping up with the truck he/she must have a death wish to try an sneak up the left side of the truck as they say right side pass side left side suicide

  • ..see my comments above, tobartolan ;-)

  • u should have held on to the back and got a free ride for a bit

  • phwoar!! f*ck that!

    That almost had me changing my pants watching it here

  • but sorry?

    what close shave, the lorry doesn't touch the cycle lane ?

  • Your ignorance is unfortunately common amongst car drivers.

    You should always give a cyclist plenty of room when overtaking. A cyclist sometimes has to swerve to avoid obstacles, it's one of the hazards of being on two wheels. You should give the same amount of clearance as you would if the cycle was the width of a car.

    Just because there's a cycle lane, doesn't mean you don't have to pass at a safe distance. What would happen if the cyclist had to come across a pothole as that lorry overtook?

  • Hey.

    If you got hit by a turbulence, who came in the same second the lorry/truck are on you side it`s not funny. Or if you done a wrong move, and you are under a 25 tons lorry/truck and you can`t wave bye to the life !

  • Came to my country, almost all motorist came from bikes to cars so we know the situation. Denmark have the best bike

    lanes in the world. Came to copenhagen and see it. Or search

    under "bikes in copenhagen" !

  • All European countries apart from britain have respect for cyclists.

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  • This cyclist was infact driving a bit too rash.... especially on the roundabouts.

  • nothing rash about him?

  • I can see your head stone

    I had the right of way

    fat lot of good it done you , a little common sence would be better

  • That wasn't unsafe. It was a normal, well-planned, asfe overtake. I do wonder about people who ride along with cameras on their bike though? Besides, if you want to share the road, where are your plates and tax?

  • Ur just a boring twat with nothing better to do than post your shitty little videos id have liked to see your broken limp body under his wheels of that truck, now that would be a worthy video you queer..!

  • Wasn't too bad...? Straight road and quite some space...?

  • The Truck driver did absaloutly nothing wrong whatsoever! He was in his lane! What is it with cyclists - your lane not big enough - I'm pretty sure you were straying out of your lane!

  • the truck driver did nothing wrong lol

  • To the guy posting that cyclists should pay road tax: I cycle and also own a car and also probably pay more income tax in a month than you earn gross in a year. Bikes also don't wear down roads - in fact they benefit roads by taking potential drivers off them.

  • Its a wide vehicle, its hardly gonna go ploughing into opposing traffic for your benefit. Stop been such a fag and buy a motorbike that way a lorry will never over take u again

  • A friend of mine died this way. The truck (lorry) got too close and snagged his pannier, pulling the bike out from under him.

  • Thanks for wasting 110 seconds of my life, you fucking retard.

  • looks so weird seeing all the trafic on the wrond side of the road O_O i would be so scared driving there!

  • yh that's right ;)

  • never seen anything wrong with that, not like he went in your lane is it?

  • Well in all fairness, he was in his own lane and you were in yours - the unbroken white line means all vehicles, bikes, cars or lorrys, are forbidden from crossing it.

  • The expercienced HGV driver will have been aware of the presense of the cyclist even while staggered in traffic but it is no good taking sides and allocating blame.

    At the end of the day bikes and thirty ton wagons do not mix.I once cycled 10,000 on a year out trip in 1984/85 and while the traffic was then 40% less volume,I was aware of the danger that every second presented.

  • cyclist should pay road tax... cyclists need to go for a theory test.....

  • cyclists should also have number plates

  • one thing i do say is there should be proper safe cycle lanes so people can get to work safely

  • close close shave good job i wasnt driving that rig i would of made you shit your cycling shorts for christmas dont try and keep up with wagons stay back and stay safe please its just plain common sense

  • eh? he was just going at his own pace in the allocated cycle lane. He was not "trying to keep up with wagons".

  • where was the shave?

  • there was nothing wrong with the way that wagon was being driven, people on the road dont seem to understand what driving a wagon is like. All road users should be aware of how much room a wagon needs.

  • This road is not wide enough for a cycle lane, I don't see the lorry driver did anything wrong. If as a cyclist you place yourself on the inside of a lorry you are asking for trouble. It is as much a cyclists responsibility to cycle defensively, as it is a drivers to drive defensively.

  • the guy was spot on plenty of clearance not even close to the white line.

  • At @ 0.11 to 0.12 you rode on your bike outside the cycle lane you could have caused an accident .

  • You idiot. The guy moved away from the hazard (pedestrians close to the road) to improve safety. Providing he was aware of what was behind him then it was completely the right thing to do. It isn't compulsory to ride in cycle lanes nor should it be. There are countless examples where not using them is safer.

  • People that walk use the pavement big difference , got nothing against cyclists ride a bike sometimes myself , but if a cyclist uses the highway they pay for it , most are an accident waiting to happen , £10 a year to use a bike on the road that aint much .

  • Typical cyclist think they own the road , they're a danger to the highway and should pay tax to use the road .

  • By your logic people who walk on the road should pay road tax? Is cycling bad for the environment? What about council tax?

  • I think you'll find that there is no such thing as road tax. You pay a tax to own a vehicle. Funding for roads comes out of general taxation, vehicle excise duty just gets thrown in the pot.

  • I recon that lorry driver was pretty good. Problem is we take an already narrow road and paint a line down it and call it a 'cycle route'Its complete madness and just adds to the danger. We had 'proper'cycle tracks in the 1930's seperated by a grass verge. Don't blame the lorry driver.Cheers anyway.