Praha 1945 - těsně před květnovým povstáním - část 1

[IustitiaPax]

3:25 Creepy to see a German Wehrmacht soldier on May 1st, 1945 in Prague (Bohemia) walking around with a birch cross for a soldier's grave, knowing that on May1st and May 2nd, the Prague Uprising and subsequently until 1947 the ethnic Germans of Prague would be massacred. And until May 9th, 1945 and beyond, many Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers would be killed by the Czech Communist partisans and by the invading Soviet Army after May 8.

[MvDrak]

@IustitiaPax Waffen-SS, internationally recognised criminal organization. Enjoy last days in Prague. The list of your crimes is long, and the judgement day is approaching!

[IustitiaPax]

Komfortní vojenské okupace! Luxus pro všechny Čechy v protektorátu. Česká veřejnost má stěží utrpěl. Jedním z nich vidí prosperitu v bohatých obličeje. My Holanďané mnohem víc hladový, než Češi. Češi pracovali často a pro Škodovy závody a armáda funguje. Dobré jídlo, dobré doutníky.

[halenkovice18]

@IustitiaPax -tak ve mestech se nci nedelo ,doutniky ,kina,fotbalek ....

ale u nas na vychodni Morava vrela...

[IustitiaPax]

@halenkovice18 To je pravda. Ať žije krásná Moravě! Moravané německých a český jazyk jsou přátelé.

[zvedavec1000]

@IustitiaPax je ben een gewoone KUT!

[IustitiaPax]

Češi jsou téměř vždy zpracovány německé armádní jednotky. Nicméně, v České povstalci etnických německých dětí ve škole zabil v Praze od května do července 1945. Tisíce. Podíváte-li se pozorně, víte, jak dobře český národ pod Němci. Mnohem více jíst než hladovějící nizozemské populace byla West. České sudetští Němci byli genocidy trestný čin.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax You should not tell such lies. It is a serious sin. You will be punished by God.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Uvidíme, kdo bude potrestán zde boží právo. Jsou reproduktory historické pravdy, jak jsem špatná hříšník, nebo český národ vrahů a jejich moderní dědicové české osadníky?

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Telling lies is a sin and Nazi propaganda is a crime.

If you are so concerned about poor Germans, what about the Czechs evicted from their homes and hundreds of thousands of them murdered by Nazis?

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Historical truth is not "nazi propaganda". The Nazis never thematized the genocidal Odsun against the Sudeten Germans, as this was committed from May 8, 1945 until 1st February, 1948 in Czechoslovakia.

Never were "hundreds of thousands" of Czechs "murdered". Never. 80,000 Czechs fell in the uniform of the Wehrmacht. The reprisals against Lidice and Lezaky were all that happened. Or do you mean the 1938 peaceful resettlement of Czech state officials from the Sudetenland to Prague?

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Only few hundreds of Czechs died in Lidice, Lezaky reprisals (justified under international martial law and The Hague Land War Conventions). Some hundreds more as Communists, Liberals and Czech anti-Hitler separatists in German prisons and concentration camps. The majority of the Czech people silently collaborated and worked and obeyed. Until the time to kill and attack and rob defenceless Sudeten and Prague ethnic German women and children had come. This is just historical facts.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge This "Nazi propaganda" was only in June 2010 aired in Czech public tv, showing a discovered video film in black and white of German men and small boys driven over alive by Czech milicians in Soviet trucks. Crushing their skulls. Shooting a German old grandfather holding a Rosary and begging for mercy. Such crimes were never committed by the Nazi occupiers in any Czech-speaking areas. Not even in Lidice, where males were shot by military court.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax The "famous" video from Prague shows soviet truck, no Czech combatants killing Germans. Murder in Lidice and Lezaky were crimes, no german martial law can justify such cruelty when 15 year old boys (children) were shot.The political belief of victims can not be a reason for murder

The rest of villagers were sent to concentration camps.

Czechs were not evicted from their homes by Nazis peacefuly in 1938.

360 000 people died in concentration camps

These are historical facts

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge It shows Czech milicians (Partizani) in stolen German uniforms with Communist insignia killing Germans. Even Soviet soldiers in Prague were shocked by the cruelty. On St. Wenceslaus' Square in Prague, near the Veitsdom (St. Vitus Cathedral), ethnic German children were hanged alive on May 20, 1945, in Hitler Youth Uniforms. And burnt with gasoline - while alive. 360.000 people died in camps? Nonsense. More died as German soldiers in Soviet POW Gulags. These statistics are falsified.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax If you are such expert in WW 2 history tell us about famous dutch volunteers in SS divisions murdering people in Russia.

Were you one of them?

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I was also a Dutch SS monster. We ate Czech children alive for breakfast. For dinner, we ate the brains of Czech grandmothers and washed ourselves with Jew-made soap. In the meanwhile, we shot the Polish officers of Katyn in 1940 mysteriously. Even before we were drafted into the Waffen-SS. During lunch, we ate pregnant Slavic mothers alive. This is all fact. Proven by statistics and East Bloc historians. Facts!

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Until now you only lied. Now you talk like an idiot.

You do not believe the history like it is told here and you force me to belive the Nazi interpretations.

You are right, many Germans were killed AFTER war, I am very sorry about it. But you constantly refuse to see the Czech victims of Nazi ocupation. And the nonsense you say about the thousands and thousands poor Germans.....Joseph Goebels would be very proud of you.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I do not believe the Czech Benes-ist propaganda "history" indeed. I do not believe Nazi history either. I am critical and can think for myself. I do not refuse to see the Czech victims of the Nazi occupation. I know the person of Fr. Emmanuel Reichenberger, a victim and emigrant due to Nazism. But a few thousand Czechs died in German concentration camps, mostly being communists. But NEVER were 300,000 Czechs murdered like Czech milicians killed 300,000 Sudeten Germans (a fact!).

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax There is another thing I want to point out. You cry over the killed german man and at the same time you justify murders of czech children by Nazis in Lidice by some decision of german martial law. Are you insane?

Is there such difference between the german life and the czech life?

And what about your denial of mass murders in concentration camps?

It seems to me you were right, you are a disgusting Nazi monster.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge 1. The Hague Conventions allow for civilian reprisals due to ununiformed partisan warfare. This is what happened during the Heydrich assassination. Do not forget, that 200,000 Czechs in Prague and Olomouc held parades protesting the Czechoslovak-British attack against Reinhard Heydrich. 2. We had two similar reprisal executions of Dutch men and adolescents in Putten and Steenwijk in the Netherlands too. Exactly the same. This is what happens in wartime with occupation and resistance.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I am very sure that Czech Communists and Czech resistance activists were not massively killed in German concentration camps. The entire Klemente Gottwald administration of Feb. 1948 was composed from camp survivors, Communists. Prison camps do not constitute mass murder, even though many died in March-May 1945 due to lack of food supply by the falling Nazi empire. Of course I am sad because of the dead of Lidice and Putten, but this does not justify 300,000 killed Sudeten Germans!

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Czech children were never killed in Lidice or Lezaky. More nonsense propaganda by you. Only the men and adolescent boys were shot in reprisal executions. The women brought to prison camps (Groß Rosen, Auschwitz, Mauthausen), and the children brought to orphanages in Germany. These children still live in Germany, but were scattered. Yes, if someone speaking historical truth is a "nazi monster" for you, so be it. I am a Christian Democrat (like CSU).

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax This discussion makes no sense. You are too blinded by Nazi or Landsmanschaft propaganda.

You said only males and adolescent were killed in Lidice. 15 years old boy is a child!

Who gave the Nazis the right to come to the village and kill people? Some German martial law?

Your figures about german victims after war is a biggest lie I ever heard, your constant refusal of czech victims of concentration camps is very close to Nazi propaganda of holocaust refutation.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I do not know about minors of 15 years old being executed in Lidice or Lezaky. Never heard about that. The assassination of Heydrich and the rumours of participation of Lidice men in preparations, caused the village to be picked. Again, we in Netherlands had the same in Putten in 1944. Exactly the same. But that is war. And the Allies and Soviets took harsher reprisals against Germans than any Wehrmacht did before. 300,000 Sudeten Germans were killed. You are a genocide Odsun denier.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax There is much more things you do not know. You still think that invasion of the foreign country, occupation and "reprisal execution" is right. Do not you think what happened in Putten was a war crime? Do you blame Nazis or Dutch guerilla? And do you justify german war crimes by German war law and by saying the Allies were even worse?

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I neither believe in collective guilt of the German people, nor in collective guilt of other peoples. I do not blame all Czechs. I like Czech culture, Chodové. And I hugely respect Alois Simon Baar and CSR Gen. Lev Prchala († 1963). WW2 was caused by multiple causes and geopolitical developments: Stalin's expansionism, Anglo-French anti-German economic fight, Hitler's dictatorship, various nationalist discrimination conflicts in Eastern Europe.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge WW2 caused Putten to happen; it is a war consequence. The reprisal against the men of Putten, a very deeply believing Reformed Calvinist village at the Veluwe hills in the region by the same name, was a sad incident. Of course the male hostages shot after a deadline to Dutch resistance (who nearly killed SS-Gen. Rauter near De Woeste Hoeve) were innocent. But it was war law. International war law: The Hague Land War Conventions.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge For Putten I blame WW2. Dutch resistance committed a foolish attack before the Battle of Arnhem (1944) (A Bridge Too Far) against the highest SS officers (unconsciously) in false uniforms near De Woeste Hoeve. This attack was unnecessary. Of course one can also argue, that Germans should not have taken hostages and done the executions. Yes, mercy. I would have liked that. But war is merciless. The Sudeten Germans however were massacred AFTER peace, from 1945 until 1948!

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax I am sorry but we can not find the common language. The people in Lidice and Putten were not killed by war. The were killed by occupants from Germany and Germans are responsible for this. Their actions can not be justified by anything.

And I am also very sorry that you decided to believe neo Nazi and Landsmanschaft propaganda about "odsun genocide" This is not just true, it is an attempt to show Germans as victims of WW2.

[Czechsarge]

@Czechsarge Many Germans were killed after war by so called "avengers" who were ordinary criminals. But there was no genocide from 1945 till 1948. I pity you for being so blinded by Nazi interpretations.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Ethnic cleansing is genocide. 3 million were deported, and only 2.7 million survived in West Germany and Austria, 300,000 being massacred in concentration camps. There are so many witnesses. Read Prof. Dr. Alfred de Zayas (former UN High Commissioner).

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Every nation has the right to resist ocupation. No military law can change it. You still insist that Nazis had the right to murder civilians in occupied countries and you deny the right to fight for freedom. Have you ever heard the word moral?

360 000 Czechs killed during occupation is a proven fact, your denial can not change it, odsun massacres are something like Gliwice incident.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge 1. After the 1939 Hácha ultimatum and the 1939 Slovak independence declaration, the legitimate one and only state of the Czech people was the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, under former CSR president Dr. Emil Hácha. 2. The Edvard Benes exil government of Czechoslovakia did not represent Slovaks and only a tiny faction of communist and Czech-liberal-chauvinist voters. 3. The suddenly "360,000 killed Czechs" are an estimate myth. 90,000 Czech Wehrmacht dead also "Nazi victim"?

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge International law regulates states' affairs. From March 1939 until the Sept 1, 1939 declaration of war, not even the British government recognized the exile movement of Edvard Benes etc. Secondly, the Hague Conventions for Land Warfare regulated reprisals and hostage-taking. To some Taliban fighters fight for freedom, in the view of others, they are terrorists. This is all subjective. It applied to the Heydrich assassinnation by Czech-British spies also.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax You said you are objective, it makes your belief even worse. Killing Czechs is OK even children can be shot if Germans want. Killing Germans is a crime (which really is) but it must be exagerated by lies about genocide and concentration camps, to make Germans to look like victims.

Now you say there were concentration camps for Germans till 1949, where will it end? In 1989? You should be more careful what you say, it makes your "facts" less trustworthy

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge 1. I know morals. I am a Roman Catholic Christian. I love truth and I respect the inviolable right of any human person to life. 2. The reprisals of Lidice and Lezaky never involved killing children under 16 years (on purpose). All children were given to orphanages, Czech pro-Nazi families and to German families to care for. 3. You deny murdering Sudeten German babies and starving Sudeten German children is a crime against humanity. It proves only your hypocrisy. I stay with FACTS.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge You should study the history of the ethnic cleansing, anti-Sudeten-German massacres by Czech partizani, and the Odsun CSR-Benes death camps for Sudeten Germans and ethnic Germans in the current Czech Republic territory more carefully. Some Czech death camps functioning until Febr 1948: Jägerndorf/Krnov Czech death camp until 1947, Karlovy Vary death camp (until Dec 1946) in Court Prison. Just take a read in Prof. Dr. Alfred de Zayas and others.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Your support of Nazis and their interpretations of history is unbelievable. And your connections between catolicism and morals is laughable.

This discussion is worthless, because you stubbornly believe our "truth" , you are not able to accept the historical facts and many things you say is just nonsense.

You lie about Lidice, Benes, you compare Taliban with czech guerilla. You are just ordinary Nazi propagandist, nothing else. Live with your lies if you like I can only pity you.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I do not support Nazis. I am a Christian-Democrat, like Edmund Stoiber and Nicholas Sarkozy and like Alcide de Gasperi and Josef Müller (CSU). I honour historical objectivity, historical facts though. Of course I am a Catholic and I condemn the Odsun genocide. I condemn any murder. The reprisal at Lidice killed farar Josef Štemberka too. But would this Czech priests and patriot ever have approved killing 300,000 Sudeten German fellow Catholic children and women in 1946? No!

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I compare Taliban with Czech resistance because of international law on civilian reprisals. Czech volunteers and special units working for the US Army in Afghanistan, like Polish officers, collaborate in the bombing to rubbish Afghan Taliban-suspected villages too. Taliban also support former Afghan government militarily ousted by NATO. Dr. Emil Hácha was like Hamid Karzai today, but Hácha was not corrupt and not a tribal leader. Comparison is unallowed by you?

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I won the discussion by comparison on international rights law and to current situations which are similar to those in Lidice. Today, Afghan children are bombed to death too, unlike Lidice, where children were all spaired (despite WW2 Benes-propaganda about Kulmhof and other Soviet propaganda). I condemn Svobodovci and their Odsun genocide against Sudeten Germans.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge This is all documented. The bodies of the massacred Sudeten German women and children are there, in Postoloprty and Satec. Far worse, far more victims than Lidice or Ležáky combined. And I am not even mentioning the massacre of thousands of Sudeten Germans in Ustí nad Labem (Aussig). Czech Lidice children in German orphanages in Dresden were burnt by British firebombs, not by "Nazis". The Odsun genocide and ethnic cleansing even shocked Soviet soldiers, used to cruelty.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax You did not win anything, you desperately look for evidence of your statements. You are even so shameless that you dare to compare history of WW2 with current evenzs in Afghanistan.

There was a plan to exterminate whole czech nation and none against Afghans. So your comparison is the same bullshit like Sudetendeutsche propaganda.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Give my evidence of the "plan" to "exterminate whole czech nation"? Nonsense. Nonsense. Do you think Emil Hácha would consent? Or Adolf Hitler who had relatives among Czechs? Or Emanuel Moravec? Nonsense. This is all products of NKVD and GPU phantasies at the end of the war, in 1944-45, and laid down in Nuremberg Trials. But not any official document from Germany proves this. You also believe the Jewish soap story? There were even Czech Waffen-SS!

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Yes I know Hácha´s opinions were very important to Hitler

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax I never said that nothing happened to Germans after war in Czechoslovakia and I denounced the criminals who ade it. But your figures are highly exagerated and you concentration camp where Germans were murdered until 1945 is a nonsense.

On the other side the mass murders of the Czech citizens during the war are very well documented. But you close your eyes and try to justify it by some military law.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge The prisons, forced labour camps, transit camps and concentration camps for Germans inside Czech (and Czechoslovak territoriy, in Kosice/Slovakia too for Carpathian Germans, but Rudolf Schuster could hide Mountains) territories are well-documented in the Black Book of the Expulsion. The number is between 233,000 and 343,500 killed Sudeten Germans or ethnic (Praha, Brno, Olomouc) Germans, of total 3 million Expelled from CSR. Proven.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge The Czech victims of Nazism were in tens of thousands of realm. Never 360,000. Svoboda war casualties are not victims of Nazism, but of Stalin canon fodder. Just compare Postoloprty, where 23 boys of 14 and 15 years of age were killed (and found in 2008 in mass graves), and over 2,000 in total from Zatec (Saaz), with about two hundred Czech hostage (men all) from Lidice and Ležáky. Sudeten Germans suffered thousands of Ležáky's, during "PEACE" TIME áfter Capitulation!

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax And your opinion about Lidice extermination being just a British propaganda proves my remark that there is no relation between catholicism and morale. You constant support of German atrocities shows you like a man without morale and integrity.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Of course Lidice executions took place. The men were shot. Women sent to forced labour camps like Sachsenhausen. Many died in Jan-Apr 1945 there. Nazi crimes in camps of course. But Czech children from Lidice and Ležáky all survived, just some died in Dresden or Hamburg bombings in foster families; some were taken to Munich by pro-Nazi Czech families and hide until today. Small villages, few children. Not large cities exterminated like (ethnic German!) Ustí nad Labem.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Not all czech children survived, 15 years old boys were shot, although they were considered children by law.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Over 45 boys of 13, 14, 15 years old were shot in Postelberg massacre too. By Czech troops. In Lidice, maybe per accident, some minor boys who were tall were shot. I cannot exclude. It would be procedural failure. Still a huge sin and too sad for their innocent souls and families, but that is war. Ethnic German children of 10 years old were lit with gasoline alive in St. Wenceslas' Square in Prague on May 11, 1945. Even Soviets were disgusted.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax In conclusion: I accept the fact that many Germans were killed after war and I am very sorry about it. I only disagree with the propaganda about concentration camps and mass murdering by thousands.

But you still support the Nazi right to do whatever they wanted in occupied countries including mass murders and deportations and destroying whole villages.

You should try to re evaluate your opinions. Start with this:Hitler was a very bad person, every excuse makes a man same bad.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge 1. The problem is that Czech Republic and sadly too many Czech (brainwashed) people like you do not want to face historical truth and apologize to the Sudeten German Odsun Survivors. 2. The Benešovy dekrety are still in force. Although Karl von Schwarzenberg (Karel Schwarzenberg) tried to have them abolished, legal property claim fears, make that they are still in force. Czech Republic "would go bankrupt if Sudeten Germans came back". No. Sudeten Germans bring wealth!

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge As long as you let Benešovy dekrety in force, the Czech Republic, legal successor to the CSR, remains guilty of the Odsun genocide. Far worse than any trumped-up NATO and EU charges on the Srebrenica "genocide", which was a very small Bosnian Serb anti-Muslim massacre, compared to Žatec, Usti, Praha (children burn to death) and Postoloprty etc. etc.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Secondly, I NEVER approved of National-Socialism or Nazi crimes. But anti-civilian reprisals WERE allowed, still ARE allowed, under INTERNATIONAL (non-Nazi) law. It is practiced in Afghanistan, in Pakistan (North), in Iraq. It is sad and bloody, but that is war and occupation. I think Nazis did a bad thing with Lidice and Lezaky, but it was legally allowed. You probably think that killing Sudeten Germans during Odsun was "preventive measure" too. Beneš believed that foolishly.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax NO LAW can approve massacress of civilans, and nothing like this takes place in Afghanistan.

Even holocaust was legally allowed by law , was it okay from your point of view?

And do not tell me what I think and believe! It is quite totalitarian behaviour.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge The Shoah of Jews were not allowed under international law at all. So that is nonsense. Nor were indiscriminate massacres of minors under 16 years of age without combat activity. But still this happens in "anti-terrorist" bombing by NATO, US etc. in Afghanistan. By support of Afghan regime of Karzai. Like Hácha approved liquidation of the Heydrich assassins and of Czech hostages (not of Lidice though, that was Karl Hermann Frank).

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I know what Afghanistan and Iraq is like. My cousin is the Dutch ARmy, special intelligence unit. He told me in private. Just read wikileaks. It was out last months, all this info. Far more dead than in Lidice or Lezaky or in any Czech village. So stop behaving "insulted" selectively. That is hypocritical. I would not have made a huge fuzz out of German males executed after a terrorist or resistance attack against Soviet occupation forces or Americans. This happened too in 1946-47!

[AZsaturn]

@IustitiaPax

You accuse of hypocrisy? Hahaha. You're better? You think the testimony of witnesses from Warsaw to be unreliable because they were heard by the winners. But the testimony of witnesses from Bydgoszcz you think unquestionably reliable. Although they were heard by the winners. When I proved it, you escape.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Prez. Edvard Beneš on May 16, 1945, after Soviet Army took Prague finally: "Bude třeba vylikvidovat zejména nekompromisně Němce v českých zemích a Maďary na Slovensku, jak se jen likvidace ta dá v zájmu jednotného národního státu provést!" This is incitement to genocide. Beneš demanded "liquidation" of all Germans in CSR territory (arbitrarily established in 1919 in Versailles, without any retrospect to ethnic minorities). Germans were killed or deported, many Hungarians stayed.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax CSR territory was created by hundreds of years of czech history. And Beneš was a weak coward who betrayed his country three times. He said what you say, but it doesnt mean it happened.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge Czechoslovakia was an artificial state with no real support among the Slovaks, nor among the Magyars (Hungarians), nor among the Sudeten Germans. The minorities Slovaks, Sudeten Germans, Magyars were far more numerous combined than the Czechs. Among the Czechs, at least 40 % were pro-Habsburg and thus pro-Austria in their hearts. But under the Czech CSR regimes of Masaryk and Benes, monarchists were discriminated. I know ethnic Czech monarchists from Slezko, Hlucin etc.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge CSR was far larger than any ethnic Czech previous monarchies ever were. The County of Moravia and the Kingdom of Bohemia did not even have Czech Silesia (Karvín etc.) as their part. The kingdom of Bohemia and its dynasties were always between Czech nobility and German nobility, both nearly always loyal Catholics. Like in Moravia. Germans and Czechs were mostly friends and mixed (Klement Gottwald had ethnic German ancestry, and Karel Schwarzenberg in Austrian-Bohemian!).

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge The history of Bohemia and Moravia (of the Czech lands) was not exclusively ethnic Czech, nor exclusively ethnic German of course. I reject Nazi over-emphasis of German history of Bohemia too. But Czech lands like Lusatia had mixed history. Chebsko (Egerland) for 80 % never had Czech history, only German settlement. The Czech people have mixed Slavic as well as Germanic Markomannic and later ethnic German ancestry too.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge The thousand years of history of the Kingdom of Bohemia always involved both Czechs and Germans. Until 1861, Prague (Praha) had a German-speaking majority. The Charles University of Prague was founded by a Roman-German emperor (Luxemburg dynasty). Beneš was a criminal and mass murderer. What he incited to, happened. You are in illicit and repulsive status of Odsun genocide denial! You deny objective truths. Forensic evidence is in Czech mass graves like Ustí (Elbe river bed).

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Where is a relation between your history lessons and your support of anti czech genocide? You obviously are not able to understand the difference between "under the law" and "right".

You are right that Czechs and Germans lived peacefully here until 1930´s when Sudeten Germans with Nazi support ruined hundreds of years of coexistence.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax Please stop feeding me the Nazi propaganda from Protektorat. Do you believe that all these people manifested support to Germany on their own will?

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax last thing. You chose a wrong man to convince about similarities between Europe at war and today´s Afghanistan. I was there twice, so I dont buy your "my fried told me in private"

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge I know very well, historical facts. My grandfather was a member of a Communist resistance group in the Netherlands (he was disgraded at work in 1954 for being a Communist). But I know - and my grandmother told me - how many senseless and political actions they committed. The Dutch and Czech resistance were similar, but we did not kill Sudeten or Limburg Germans in 1945-1949 by 100,000s.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge No, war is responsible for this. Partisan actions against the military occupier in international war law can be sanctioned by hostage executions from the civil population. It is very sad and I mourn about the dead, but that is what war is like.

You deny the Odsun massacres, which consisted in ethnic cleansing and genocide far more than any Srebrenica or any Lidice anti-partisan reprisal. I am objective, not emotional like you.

[IustitiaPax]

@Czechsarge You deny German murdered children, while you mourn the dead of Czech male hostages in two anti-partisan reprisal shootings blown up in British propaganda to a-historical proportions. Many myths surround the Lidice, Lezaky and Oradour-sur-Glane events, and Allied anti-German propaganda. Putten was more neutrally researched in Holland (fortunately!). The Odsun is a fact, the massacres of 300,000 Sudeten German civilians are well-proven. Your denial does not change truth and forensics.

[Czechsarge]

@IustitiaPax The biggest crime was comitted by Germans when they started the war. Why you give them the right to shoot and arrest people in reprisal execution?

[IustitiaPax]

Od 1945-1947, sudetští Němci (nevinných dětí, žen, starších osob v ceně) se stanou obětí genocidy českých, režie a schválen prezident Edvard Beneš (masový vrah). 300.000 nevinných německých civilistů v táborech nebo v masakrech, jako je město Ústí na Labi zabil. Zejména v táborech. Dokonce i sovětských vojáků v České zločiny šokován. Češi se musí přiznat svou vinu! Skvrna na českých dějin!

[zelenec2]

@IustitiaPax

Jak to napsal jeden český spisovatel, po náletu na Drážďany (Dresden):

Měli jste sedět doma, na prdeli !

[sfgdhdhd]

@Zruda18 Si děláš prdel ty kreténe co. Sám by si měl skončit v koncentráku to už by se ti o tom tak nemluvilo. Jako ty mluví jen zbabělci a lidi co sami nic nedokážou potřebujete dav kreténů protože sami nejste schopný dokázat nic. Taky nesnášim demokracii a kapitalismus protože nám nedovoluj vás spálit v peci!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Koubas92CZ]

Tak hele,během nepokojů bylo zabito cca 1000 Němců,nezkresluj to těmi 300 000 a nebyli to jenom civilisté.Vím,že i tak to bylo kruté,ale ve srovnání s německou agresí vůči Čechům je to nesrovnatelné.České země ztratili díky Němcům přes 120000 Židů a asi 40 000 Čechů zemřelo v koncentračních táborech s nima.Vyhnání Němců bylo nezbytné.

[Koubas92CZ]

Jo a to,že když Němci zabrali Sudety a vyhnali (sem tam také vraždili) Čechy,o tom se nezmíníš,co?

[czpunk]

dost zajímavý záběry... fakt pěkný a hlavně dost zajímavý obdobý poslední dyn protektoratu

[holystrawberry]

...tam je malicko lidi v te Praze..ted hlava na hlave. krasa.

[holystrawberry]

ps. myslim tim  Kampu a Karluv most.., jak je tam vylidneno..

[petufo]

No to je k podivení, že Češi přehlíželi okupanty... to dělali už od 15. března 1939. To byl pasivní odpor českých občanů vůči německým okupantům. Nevšímali si jich, jako kdyby nebyli, koukali skrz ně a nebo mimo... Jinak zajímavé video.

[Freak6006]

"Chudáci" sudetští Němci (např. otec Edmunda Stoibera), taková nespravedlnost! Chtěli jenom vyhladit méněcenné Slovany a zabrat jejich území a teď aby prchali na Západ a doufali, že tam Američané nic netuší o jejich zločinech na Východě!

[IustitiaPax]

@ Freak6006 Sudetských Němců nemají prakticky žádné zločiny spáchané v České území. Stovky tisíc Čechů už dávno loajální poddané Protektorátu Čechy a Morava prezident Dr. Emil Hácha (v červnu 1945 špehové Edvard Beneš byl zabit v krvavé nemocnici). Američané a dokonce i sovětští vojáci byli pobouřeni, protože Česká dravost dětech sudetských Němců.

[rioyaque99]

is this prague under the german protectorate?

[neserme]

End of April/May 1945.

Few days before the end of the WWII.

[GervaisCZ]

yes, it is. They were expecting a massive bombing before the end of the war. This is a kind of say goog-bye to the old and wonderful Mater Urbium Praga.

[terrepo]

Hello There !!

Your film are just wonderful !!!

have you got more , i want very much to see them !!

Kind Reg. Johnny P- Sweden