I am sorry officer, I do not wish to answer any of your questions. I do not submit to any searches or to any relative field sobriety tests. However, I will submit to a breathalyzer or blood test to determine my blood alcohol level.
Rookie cop!! You got lucky dumbass. I would have asked, told, then off to county you go. Little resistance and POW, 50,000 volts comin at ya!!! HAHAHA Dont glorify this moron! He probably went to jail. Refuse all the way... juries love that shit. And this video would show what an ass you really are!! Dont be afraid to do your jobs police, these assholes are few and far between.
@donttazemebro213 Did you actually read the description of the video in where he went out to prove racial profiling with a number of witnesses from the magazine
I guess you didnt and as you seem to have just recently became a meber of youtube I suspect that as a 38 year old man you joined to just troll videos, would it not be better to get two sides of the story before commenting on a video. Its hard to belive that someone your age talks the way you do
One phrase: "I do not give my consent to talk to the police." Check out my vid on the lost hills sheriffs deputies. I wish I would of said that to El Segundo PD that night. Bastards.
Been there done that. Cali law enforcement panic when they get a minority that can articulate and don't revert to profanity. It's a damn shame that many in law enforcement don't posses the people skills and cajones to change the protocols of racial profiling within their depts. They just go along with the program. Color of authority. Yeah right. Thank God for cameras or this guy may have been beaten for being right...
I shouldn't have to lock it...I wont give them any reason to go there without a warrant...and I've seen drunk people get away and barely tipsy people get no such love...I was just kidding really...I don't care about the police when I drink, cuz I care too much about my friends to drive :D
Well if I'm wrongfully accused of being drunk while driving (when in fact I will be just a little bit tipsy) I shall give you a call and pay you handsomely XD
You better know your tipsy limit. As far as being tipsy, youre probably exceeding the alcohol limit. Best thing to do ride around with a high quality tape recorder, as soon as you are being pulled over turn it on and throw it in the glove compartment. And lock it up, they need a seperate warrant for the glove compartment if it is locked.
A cop can pull someone over for a random check, and just say that its a late night and there may be several intoxicated drivers. The police officer did overstep some bounderies, however the other man did as well. He should simply cooperate with the sobriety test, prove he is sober, then ask to go on his way. If he is not released, then he waits and does what he is told to do. He may later on file a complaint, however it is ALWAYS best to cooperate no matter what.
Nooooo theres no such thing as a random check where you pull people over in the process. There has to be a reason for pulling you over. Unless you are conducting a checkpoint, and that is a different case in it self. You are wrong. But you should comply and file your complaint promptly after.
I do not like your statement "You are wrong.". You did not clarify to which point in my statement I was incorrect. I don't think you would like to argue in court that you were driving perfectly when submitting a complaint. I do, however fully agree that you should always comply with a police officer, and I think that it was unwise for the driver to get him to "back down". This person won. Usually you lose. I would politely remind the officer what I believe my rights are, and hear him deny them.
It is illegal for the police to pull someone over for a random check. There has to be a reason, for example, driving iradically. And even then there have to be some evidence in order to preform a sobriety test, for example, you can smell an odor, you can see pot in the car/an open container. And even then, in court the police have to prove you are guilty. Thats one of the reasons police cars now have a dash camera. A random check? A check of what. Random is illegal.
You said you had a degree in criminology. First off its extremely easy to come up with a reason to pull someone over, however the next claim of yours should be false. To my knowledge, no amount of evidence can force someone to take a sobriety test, as it is always voluntary. Denial, however is taken strong note of in court. Random checks, legal or not, will always occur again due to the simplicity of accusation. 90% of people are 100% cooperative, and cops will risk if not, they have a record.
I am speaking of legal and illegal, not whether the police can come up with an actual reason or not. I am sure they can always make a reason up. So then yes random checks do occur, illegally. As far as a sobriety test, I know you do not have to blow, but you automatically forfeit your liscense without it, and you will have an opportunity to hire a lawyer and knock the felony down to a lesser charge (Usually with community service).
Ok well there would be where our differences came from. I'm not sure if it instantly becomes a felony if you refuse to take a test. Again, what if you turned a corner to tight, and get pulled over for DUI when your perfectly sober? I don't think you will get a felony for that if you had no other indications of any intoxication. Thats not something that I'm well versed in, however and you would probably know better than me
You cannot get a DUI charge, while being perfectly sober. The DUI refers to Driving Under the Influence. There has to be an influence of somthing, like drugs. You are charged with a DUI. But that is only a charge, thats why in DWI's, Driving While Intoxicated, if you don't blow into the test, there is usually a lack of evidence that a judge will consider. But it will cost you a good sum of money to higher a lawyer to take care of it.
Now you speak of cooperating with the police. Thats a tricky word, as in, the police officer is building a case against, they are not your friends, they are not trying to help you out with anything. So yes cooperate, but know your rights, know that the police must provide you with a reason of pulling you over, probably cause to search your vechicle, cannot detain you for a long period of time without reason. And in the end it is the prosecutors job to prove guilt.
Yea ha and I don't in any way suggest sucking up to a cop. But it is obviously true that whether or not you agree with him is irrelevant, you should normally do as he says, let him know of your disapproval, and deal with it later in court, rather than risk a violent situation that in the very least will take away the rest of your night.
No....n officer does not have 2 tell u y your pulled over....it is a courtesy not the law...if they arrest you they must tell u y within 48 hours.......
there's good people in this world and bad people, end of story..... its not what you do, its who you are that makes you as a person. even MLK said that!
I'm all for catching police misconduct, it just seems that this guy always misses the 1% of Officers who are unprofessional and catch the 99% of Officers who are good cops trying to keep people safe. EPIC FAIL.
i just want to say how thankful i am that there is someone like mr. kamau out there intelligently documenting this abuse of power! thank you so much for helping expose these injustices committed by those who say they *are* justic! really makes you wonder how many "good" cops who joined the force to "help people" are left.....
It obvious to anyone with any common sense that the cop was lying, and making up a story as he went along. The police complaint center catches stuff like this all the time.
I do agree that kamau could have said things more nicely but I don't think his tone of voice was "illegal." It's important that police officers are held accountable for their illegal conduct. It's not okay to break the law to enforce the law. The ends don't justify the means.
We dont show all the tape because this officer stopped us on the way to our investigation. We had just enough time to load a tape in the camera and nail him lying and profiling. There were actually two officers about to stop us as soon as we hit lennox/prarie ave in LA. He backed down because he knew what he was doing was illegal.
Other than the 'suspect' having a bad attitude and thinking he's all that, I don't see enough in this very small clip to form an opinion about who is right and who's wrong.
He actually got that CHP to back down-boy, that is one guilty cop. That is the norm in Lennox & a lot of other areas around LA.
For crazymofo1973 You can't be "detained" or arrested for refusing a DUI test if there was no probable cause & that CHP knew it. Many bad & good police-public interactions have been taped by this group and founder Diop Kamau--see policeabuseDOTorg. He does great and much needed work. Media bias had nothing to do with this--this was bad & illegal police procedure.
That's my point. He can be arrested if the officer suspects the driver is under the influence. If the BAC test shows he was below the legal limit, then he'll be freed. But, if he was driving in such a way that made it look like he was intoxicated, then the police have every right to pull him over. But, we don't know b/c this guy "forgot" to include that part on the video. Quit challenging authority and let the police do their job.
How come he doesn't show the way he was driving before he was pulled over? He should have been detained for refusing a DUI test, too. Typical media bias.
We dont show all the tape because this officer stopped us on the way to our investigation. We had just enough time to load a tape in the camera and nail him lying and profiling. There were actually two officers about to stop us as soon as we hit lennox/prarie ave in LA. He backed down because he knew what he was doing was illegal.
Field sobriety tests are completely voluntary, by law. All officers are supposed to be trained and told to tell all DUI suspects that field sobriety tests are voluntary but if the suspect refuses, they are to be warned that the "refusal" can be used against them in Court. Refusing to take a DUI test is not a legal reason for a stop. You got it backwards. There has to be a legal reason for the stop first before the officer can ask the suspect to take a DUI test.
hahaha damn anotherthing thing at checkpoints dont answer question dont show id ask are u being detained then ask to leave
spiderturd43 1 week ago
Punk the shit out of that bitch.lol.
skysky9898 1 week ago
Hell ya man. Articulate, stay calm, and don't back down.
DKproductions 3 weeks ago
I am sorry officer, I do not wish to answer any of your questions. I do not submit to any searches or to any relative field sobriety tests. However, I will submit to a breathalyzer or blood test to determine my blood alcohol level.
TheGrayman1234 8 months ago
Rookie cop!! You got lucky dumbass. I would have asked, told, then off to county you go. Little resistance and POW, 50,000 volts comin at ya!!! HAHAHA Dont glorify this moron! He probably went to jail. Refuse all the way... juries love that shit. And this video would show what an ass you really are!! Dont be afraid to do your jobs police, these assholes are few and far between.
donttazemebro213 9 months ago
@donttazemebro213 Did you actually read the description of the video in where he went out to prove racial profiling with a number of witnesses from the magazine
I guess you didnt and as you seem to have just recently became a meber of youtube I suspect that as a 38 year old man you joined to just troll videos, would it not be better to get two sides of the story before commenting on a video. Its hard to belive that someone your age talks the way you do
stonewall1888 7 months ago
What a loser. If he wasn't drunk the cop would have just let him go after checking him. He didn't stand up for his right he acted like a fool.
TheEodtch 9 months ago
nice and well spoken you stood your ground and did not loose your cool ... what happen after the video cuts off
maldo72 9 months ago
damn that was on point like a bitch lol he caught him so good!
AJ41069 10 months ago
One phrase: "I do not give my consent to talk to the police." Check out my vid on the lost hills sheriffs deputies. I wish I would of said that to El Segundo PD that night. Bastards.
TheHoeDownTV 10 months ago
If I could like this video a milion times I would.
usmcbess 1 year ago
Good job officer
haywood16 1 year ago
Hot damn
urajokeass 1 year ago
that was awesome. Too bad more people don't know how to deal with the police.
Stink808 1 year ago
Been there done that. Cali law enforcement panic when they get a minority that can articulate and don't revert to profanity. It's a damn shame that many in law enforcement don't posses the people skills and cajones to change the protocols of racial profiling within their depts. They just go along with the program. Color of authority. Yeah right. Thank God for cameras or this guy may have been beaten for being right...
miqued4sound 2 years ago 6
fuckin pigs ahaha owned !
Henokman1 2 years ago
LOL!!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!! that was great!!!
PezkeyWabbitz 2 years ago
I shouldn't have to lock it...I wont give them any reason to go there without a warrant...and I've seen drunk people get away and barely tipsy people get no such love...I was just kidding really...I don't care about the police when I drink, cuz I care too much about my friends to drive :D
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
Well if I'm wrongfully accused of being drunk while driving (when in fact I will be just a little bit tipsy) I shall give you a call and pay you handsomely XD
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
You better know your tipsy limit. As far as being tipsy, youre probably exceeding the alcohol limit. Best thing to do ride around with a high quality tape recorder, as soon as you are being pulled over turn it on and throw it in the glove compartment. And lock it up, they need a seperate warrant for the glove compartment if it is locked.
mm89f 2 years ago
I just finished my degree in criminology and will probably be a police officer, and this is great.
mm89f 2 years ago
He's schooling that Officer. No probable cause, and yettttttt you want to conduct a sobriety test.
mm89f 2 years ago
A cop can pull someone over for a random check, and just say that its a late night and there may be several intoxicated drivers. The police officer did overstep some bounderies, however the other man did as well. He should simply cooperate with the sobriety test, prove he is sober, then ask to go on his way. If he is not released, then he waits and does what he is told to do. He may later on file a complaint, however it is ALWAYS best to cooperate no matter what.
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
Nooooo theres no such thing as a random check where you pull people over in the process. There has to be a reason for pulling you over. Unless you are conducting a checkpoint, and that is a different case in it self. You are wrong. But you should comply and file your complaint promptly after.
mm89f 2 years ago
I do not like your statement "You are wrong.". You did not clarify to which point in my statement I was incorrect. I don't think you would like to argue in court that you were driving perfectly when submitting a complaint. I do, however fully agree that you should always comply with a police officer, and I think that it was unwise for the driver to get him to "back down". This person won. Usually you lose. I would politely remind the officer what I believe my rights are, and hear him deny them.
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
It is illegal for the police to pull someone over for a random check. There has to be a reason, for example, driving iradically. And even then there have to be some evidence in order to preform a sobriety test, for example, you can smell an odor, you can see pot in the car/an open container. And even then, in court the police have to prove you are guilty. Thats one of the reasons police cars now have a dash camera. A random check? A check of what. Random is illegal.
mm89f 2 years ago
You said you had a degree in criminology. First off its extremely easy to come up with a reason to pull someone over, however the next claim of yours should be false. To my knowledge, no amount of evidence can force someone to take a sobriety test, as it is always voluntary. Denial, however is taken strong note of in court. Random checks, legal or not, will always occur again due to the simplicity of accusation. 90% of people are 100% cooperative, and cops will risk if not, they have a record.
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
I am speaking of legal and illegal, not whether the police can come up with an actual reason or not. I am sure they can always make a reason up. So then yes random checks do occur, illegally. As far as a sobriety test, I know you do not have to blow, but you automatically forfeit your liscense without it, and you will have an opportunity to hire a lawyer and knock the felony down to a lesser charge (Usually with community service).
mm89f 2 years ago
Ok well there would be where our differences came from. I'm not sure if it instantly becomes a felony if you refuse to take a test. Again, what if you turned a corner to tight, and get pulled over for DUI when your perfectly sober? I don't think you will get a felony for that if you had no other indications of any intoxication. Thats not something that I'm well versed in, however and you would probably know better than me
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
You cannot get a DUI charge, while being perfectly sober. The DUI refers to Driving Under the Influence. There has to be an influence of somthing, like drugs. You are charged with a DUI. But that is only a charge, thats why in DWI's, Driving While Intoxicated, if you don't blow into the test, there is usually a lack of evidence that a judge will consider. But it will cost you a good sum of money to higher a lawyer to take care of it.
mm89f 2 years ago
Now you speak of cooperating with the police. Thats a tricky word, as in, the police officer is building a case against, they are not your friends, they are not trying to help you out with anything. So yes cooperate, but know your rights, know that the police must provide you with a reason of pulling you over, probably cause to search your vechicle, cannot detain you for a long period of time without reason. And in the end it is the prosecutors job to prove guilt.
mm89f 2 years ago
Yea ha and I don't in any way suggest sucking up to a cop. But it is obviously true that whether or not you agree with him is irrelevant, you should normally do as he says, let him know of your disapproval, and deal with it later in court, rather than risk a violent situation that in the very least will take away the rest of your night.
magicjohnson1423 2 years ago
No....n officer does not have 2 tell u y your pulled over....it is a courtesy not the law...if they arrest you they must tell u y within 48 hours.......
cadillackid103 2 years ago
In my state they have to tell you. They aren't allowed to just pull over anyone and ask for id on a whim.
Stink808 1 year ago
@Stink808 True that.
TheHoeDownTV 10 months ago
there's good people in this world and bad people, end of story..... its not what you do, its who you are that makes you as a person. even MLK said that!
oregonnich 2 years ago
that is how you handle a fucking pig
skuzz 3 years ago 6
Fuck him! Hook is ass up! Stupid ass drunk shit head.
suzukigsxr750r 4 years ago
This cop ate his shoe big time. Dumb ass!!
lovetheladies07 4 years ago
I'm all for catching police misconduct, it just seems that this guy always misses the 1% of Officers who are unprofessional and catch the 99% of Officers who are good cops trying to keep people safe. EPIC FAIL.
weightxedge 4 years ago
i just want to say how thankful i am that there is someone like mr. kamau out there intelligently documenting this abuse of power! thank you so much for helping expose these injustices committed by those who say they *are* justic! really makes you wonder how many "good" cops who joined the force to "help people" are left.....
wiretapfeast 4 years ago
It obvious to anyone with any common sense that the cop was lying, and making up a story as he went along. The police complaint center catches stuff like this all the time.
SRMeadows 4 years ago
How many times does he have to tell you why he stopped you? Jerk.
ibclink 4 years ago
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You're a jerk. You were verbally confrontational by trying to bait the cop, it didn't work.
SBnative75 4 years ago
Police use intimidation for illegal searches so stand your ground.......but always do it respectfully.
malamichelle 4 years ago 2
I do agree that kamau could have said things more nicely but I don't think his tone of voice was "illegal." It's important that police officers are held accountable for their illegal conduct. It's not okay to break the law to enforce the law. The ends don't justify the means.
chocyanyan 4 years ago
We dont show all the tape because this officer stopped us on the way to our investigation. We had just enough time to load a tape in the camera and nail him lying and profiling. There were actually two officers about to stop us as soon as we hit lennox/prarie ave in LA. He backed down because he knew what he was doing was illegal.
policeabuseorg 4 years ago
Other than the 'suspect' having a bad attitude and thinking he's all that, I don't see enough in this very small clip to form an opinion about who is right and who's wrong.
nrml1 4 years ago
He actually got that CHP to back down-boy, that is one guilty cop. That is the norm in Lennox & a lot of other areas around LA.
For crazymofo1973 You can't be "detained" or arrested for refusing a DUI test if there was no probable cause & that CHP knew it. Many bad & good police-public interactions have been taped by this group and founder Diop Kamau--see policeabuseDOTorg. He does great and much needed work. Media bias had nothing to do with this--this was bad & illegal police procedure.
steveeex7 4 years ago
That's my point. He can be arrested if the officer suspects the driver is under the influence. If the BAC test shows he was below the legal limit, then he'll be freed. But, if he was driving in such a way that made it look like he was intoxicated, then the police have every right to pull him over. But, we don't know b/c this guy "forgot" to include that part on the video. Quit challenging authority and let the police do their job.
crazymofo1973 4 years ago
How come he doesn't show the way he was driving before he was pulled over? He should have been detained for refusing a DUI test, too. Typical media bias.
crazymofo1973 4 years ago
We dont show all the tape because this officer stopped us on the way to our investigation. We had just enough time to load a tape in the camera and nail him lying and profiling. There were actually two officers about to stop us as soon as we hit lennox/prarie ave in LA. He backed down because he knew what he was doing was illegal.
policeabuseorg 4 years ago
Obviously he doesn't need to show his driving....the cop backed down pretty damn easily. Classic.
KanojoToysDotCom 4 years ago
Field sobriety tests are completely voluntary, by law. All officers are supposed to be trained and told to tell all DUI suspects that field sobriety tests are voluntary but if the suspect refuses, they are to be warned that the "refusal" can be used against them in Court. Refusing to take a DUI test is not a legal reason for a stop. You got it backwards. There has to be a legal reason for the stop first before the officer can ask the suspect to take a DUI test.
chocyanyan 4 years ago