@arktikgraywolf if this is true what you say, how do you explain the difference between slavian and nordic languages and mythology? I totally disagree, slavs came from east.
russians were the victims? where do you get your history from? Finnougric paople and other minorities suffered a lot. russians are new to the north, at least in our scale, our ancesters have been living here for thousands of years
Anyone know exactly what this instrument is called? I know the song is a tribute to song played on a Kantele, but I can't seem to find one that sounds like it. If anyone is watching this, think you can give me a hand?
This is not kantele. It is gusli. The origin of both of them is for sure common. Taking into consideration that finnic tribes were savages compared to slavic tribes, you could possibly say then that kantele is a kind of gusli.
What the f...? You can't keep from your lying on a thread proclaiming beautiful music. What the hell is wrong with you nashi bastards? Just look who founded Novgorod and Kievan Rus that later become where Russians live now. Totally impervious to their heritage.
Don't as what it is according to me. According to facts it was Varangians who ruled that "proto-Russia". And Varangians were mostly Swedes with Finnish allies who got along on the vay to Holmgard. And beyond.
Well, according to you Swedes and Finns "did it". I think that state apparatus that later on gave Kievan Rus' and Moscuvy appeared as result of Varangian domination over both Slavs and autoctonous Finnic inhabitants of the region. But Novgorod, Pskov, as well as Kiev and other cities were Slavic settlements,- possibly on the place of some previous Finnic ones, - later some of them became centers important to the Norsemen, for commercial reasons.
Some centers were possibly built by Varangians themselves, like старая ладога, aka Aldeigjaborg, etc. Many of the settlements, as well Norse as Slavic were located on the place of some prior Finnic sttlement,- natural fact indeed, as Finnic tribes lived in the nowadays northern Russia prior to IE peoples.
There certainly was Norse domination in the region at some time. Thing is that peoples at the bottom of all were finnic tribes,- less organized, less bellicose, probably less in numbers too. Slavs consolidated their presence in the region with time, prevailing over Norse, Finnic and later on Turkic peoples. Slavic overall superiority is objectively seen from a simple fact that Russians speak a Slavic language and not a Finnic one, while living mostly on the former "Finnic lands".
Well, I wouldn't say "opress", I'd rather say the Norse elite basically dissolved in Slavic and Fennic population with time..It's just that Slavs largely outnumbered the Norse, so that Slavic languages prevailed by natural reasons. On the other hand, local Fennic tribes were assimilated by Slavs in larger proportions than many may (or want to) believe. My personal opinion is that Russians are at least 1/3 Fennic, maybe more. Anyhow, we are all of mixed blood.
Sure sure, dude I am not a racist or a slav hater. The argument started only from that other guy calling Fennic people despised, when in fact they were the nobility.
I have nothing against being friends with Russians. It is just the fucking filthy nashis and their distortion of history I despise.
Too much koskenkorva :D Btw what is that "nashi" you are talking about? Also, Fennic people never were the nobility,- nobility were the Norse, Slavs and Fenns being the "main population". Concerning Slavs and Fenns: the former were less "Barbaric" than the latter - Fenns lived with huntering and fishing while Slavs also had agriculture and pasturing. Also, they were more advanced in military issues and this explains why Slavs assimilated the "Fenns" and not vice versa.
Now, don't take me wrong, I am not a Finnic despiser: but one has to agree that there are stages of development: technological, "civilizational" if you want. From that point of view, the Norse were "less barbaric" than the Slavs, and these were "less barbaric" than Fennic peoples. But to Romans the Norse/Germanics were barbarians, and for the Greeks, the Romans were savages some time.
There are some objective reasons (technological development) for that, and other quite.. subjective (prejudices, etc) I'm not very much into "purely cultural" comparison, I'd rather consider "technology", sciences, etc. Get my point? But nothing stays still, world is dinamic: at this time, e.g. Finland is probably quite more advanced in many ways than Russia, etc I hope my point was clear.
No prob, man. But I know a nashi when I see one. Wiki for it. Despite that, I jst wish peace. Just do not tell lies, ok? Fennic people were mistreated and taken to concentration camps and outright killed later. Especially by Stalin. I was talking about middle ages. When the street language of Novgoror was Finish and the official one Swedish. Just read Catherine's memoirs, okay?
I still can't see what exactly you mean by "nashi", indeed. That word means "our/s" (for plural) in Russian, and apart from that direct meaning it can refer to the Russians as people, like "we"/"us". Lately, there is a group of Putin young followers called Nashi. Which one are you applying to me? As far as Stalin is concerned, now that you mentioned him: most of the people that he annihilated were RUSSIANS.
Cool it off, dude. Yes, most were Russians. Tehnically. But 350 000 Karelians and Ingrians who are Fennic just kinda disappeared. It was systematical ethnic cleansing.
And yes, by nashi I meant that "putin-jugend" that keeps raving in the net that Russia never did anything wrong and revising history. However, I wish no fight with you.
So, you think I am from that organization, I see. Well, I am actually not. And I am not raving in the net to say Russia never did anything wrong either. Regarding the genocide of Stalin times, I'll be dull and repeat: most victims were RUSSIANS. Other minorities were persecuted? No objections there. That regime as well as the modern is anti-russian in the first place. Regime of the german tsarica Catherine the great you were mentioning before was anti-russian too.
Okay, don't get hasty there now. In Finland the term nashi has become to mean anyone who does what they do. If you do admit the genocide of Finnish people by Russians, then we're okay. Sure, they killed millions of their own, but those were mostly ethnic minorities, too.
You might want to see the film "Soviet story" Then you might understand why we are - if not hating - wary of Russians. And it goes back for centuries.
Look, if you state that victims of the stalinist repressions were mostly "non-Russians", we are going nowhere. I can bever agree with such a BS, sorry for the expression. The communist regime itself from the very beginning was not Russian, ethnically speaking. You blame me for what Lenin, Trotski, Stalin, Kaganovich etc etc did? None of them was Russian in fact. Look up the names of the main leaders and you'll probably see what I mean.
You'll say many Russians remember those guys with warm words? You'll probably be right. I say: idiots who don't deserve my respect at all. Why? Because I am not proud for russian empire, soviet union and russian federation as political structures at all. So all those imperialistic dreams of some of my countrymen,- I don't share them. I don't say this as a disclaimer, it is just what I feel. And there are more Russians who think like me in this aspect.
Well, dude. Then you are okay and I apologise for my mistake. It is a technical matter who is "Russian", as the area of Russia has vast amounts of different ethnic groups. Of course those motherfuckers killed millions of ethnic Slavs, too. If they happened to disagree with whatever the current government was. And is. And I feel sorry for them, too.
Btw Stalin ( true last name Dzhugashvili) wasn't Russian himself but Georgian, and I don't feel either proud or responsability for his deeds. Am I clear enough?
Novgorod.. Street language of "Novgorod as such" was West Slavic dialect akin to the dialects of Northern Germany and Poland, of the so called "Polabian Slavs". Finnic languages were spoken before, during and even after the Slavs arrived to what is North-West Russia.
Lol that? When Novgorod has been based, all Slavs spoke in one language. East Germany was slavic and no Finns yet existing. Greeks named Slavs - Scythians, for example Gerodot.
Hmm it's arguable that Slavs spoke one language at the time Novgorod was based. Most likely not exactly the same one, though dialects they spoke must have been mutually understandable. No Finns existing? Fennic peoples lived in the area of modern Novgorod far before Slavs arrived there. Scythians were Iranic tribes, not Slavic, to be precise.
Names of cities and districts of those times coincide on all east part of Europe. Such people as Finns was not. Scythians were empire when there were Scythians, Slavs yet were not, they were a part of empire of Scythians. Has not remained a Scythian, only burial places and certificates of the Greek historians. That that Scythians Iranian - only a hypothesis. Gerodot named Scythians of all from Danube to Altai. Clothes and products coincide with a wound Slavic.
But Novgorod as such, developped on the basis of Slavic peoples. It's plausible that Fennic tribes (merä e.g. ?) lived on the very same place before Slavic Novgorod "appeared" or immediately near its location. It's quite possible that Fennic peoples were a relevant proportion of Novgorod populaton too.
Nevertheless, it seems that Slavic was the main VERNACULAR language over there (medieval Novgorod), as it is reflected on the birch bark inscriptions found in Novgorod, and obviously in older period writings, and not FENNIC. Norse language was the language of the Varangians primarily. Official?.. It seems that they didn't make significant efforts to impose the use of their language for broader use, as reflected by the inscriptions found in modern NW Russian lands.
Sorry, but the birch bark letters we have sent to Finland to friends and relatives telling of everyday things like love letters and such are in Finnish.
If you really are from Guinea-Bissau, why are you so ken to defend Russians in everything? I know lots of Russians who are okay. I have no problem with that.
let me see if I understand how does it work...
with your Right Hand you PLAY the notes
with your Left Hand you mainly stop notes form sounding but you also play!!!
how is are this 12 strings tuned?
RUOCCOLOCO 6 months ago
verschneiter wald, lagerfeuer, met und musik von der kantele... oh jaa..^^
Razorkid666 9 months ago
are you from finland? :))
YourMoomin1 1 year ago
You should record some actual songs. I would totally buy your record.
Pakanahymni 1 year ago
very good !!!
DUVOODUtattoo 1 year ago
Brilliant!
Brynke 1 year ago
Very pretty! Thanks!
clydesight 1 year ago
best sound kantele I ever heard... nice playing
fcouperin 1 year ago
Wunderschön, einfaches Instrument, leichte, beschwingte Musik - was will man denn mehr?
1osta 1 year ago
That's really nice. How did you learn to play the kantele?
electrogossip 1 year ago
@electrogossip /gusli. :)
electrogossip 1 year ago
amazing
MrJamesG25 1 year ago
Slavs came from Great Vikings and nordic tribes.
arktikgraywolf 1 year ago
2 @arktikgraywolf
rubbish
NataliaGor1 1 year ago
@arktikgraywolf
error
JaneIsMine 1 year ago
@arktikgraywolf if this is true what you say, how do you explain the difference between slavian and nordic languages and mythology? I totally disagree, slavs came from east.
pieknysmard 1 year ago
how many strings your model has, cannot count them in the video : ty
yidneth 2 years ago
@yidneth Twelve strings.
guslyar 1 year ago
this is great!!! i'm american, and i rarely see or hear about this instrument. how many strings does it have, and how is it tuned??
is it an open chorded tuning or is it chromatic??
unstrung13 2 years ago
Seems like town themes from RPG games ;)
Beautiful song of this instrument, i've never heard it before.
gnrlogan1 2 years ago
nice
peromudrac 2 years ago
Славно играешь! Жаль только, что играя не славишь ты Богов родных.
TheHappyCoder 2 years ago
You have beautiful hands.
Lemniskaten 2 years ago
NO WAY!! This was too short. Please do more, longer, videos. I'd just gotten my mouse over to turn up the volume when it ended.
What was the name of this? where can I get the music for my kantele?
a0e0roberts 2 years ago 2
That was very impressive. Thank you.
Namethatwasnttaken 2 years ago
Beautiful!
kaapiovuohi 2 years ago
russians were the victims? where do you get your history from? Finnougric paople and other minorities suffered a lot. russians are new to the north, at least in our scale, our ancesters have been living here for thousands of years
mattoverho 2 years ago
This song is beautiful. What is it called? And I know this is a Gusli but would I be able to play the same music on a 10 string kantele? Thanks
Forseti6288 2 years ago
how can i get one og those and is it hard to play it?
tkdliron 2 years ago
second.... I still want one hah
Em0c0w 2 years ago
you can buy it in Russia :-)
VechnyjAzimut 2 years ago
I'd like to know the name of this tune :)
hazayel 2 years ago
Anyone know exactly what this instrument is called? I know the song is a tribute to song played on a Kantele, but I can't seem to find one that sounds like it. If anyone is watching this, think you can give me a hand?
Thanks
Em0c0w 3 years ago
In Russian it is called Gusli, in English this is Psaltery i think
Bpy6 3 years ago
It's still a Kantele..
There are a LOT of different types of Kanteles, this is one of them.. ;)
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And interesting playing! ;)
Thymonico 3 years ago
Sry.. Just read in wikipedia that this is a "Gusli" - A Russian folk instrument.. No?
Thymonico 3 years ago
Yeah I've been looking around a lot and I've found similar things, but not this exact one... weirdness
Em0c0w 3 years ago
This is not kantele. It is gusli. The origin of both of them is for sure common. Taking into consideration that finnic tribes were savages compared to slavic tribes, you could possibly say then that kantele is a kind of gusli.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Yes.. I looked deeper into it after encountering some confusion about its origin.. Found out that this was a gusli, and NOT a Kantele..
;)
Thymonico 2 years ago 2
What the f...? You can't keep from your lying on a thread proclaiming beautiful music. What the hell is wrong with you nashi bastards? Just look who founded Novgorod and Kievan Rus that later become where Russians live now. Totally impervious to their heritage.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
Who founded Novgorod and Kiev according to you?
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Don't as what it is according to me. According to facts it was Varangians who ruled that "proto-Russia". And Varangians were mostly Swedes with Finnish allies who got along on the vay to Holmgard. And beyond.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
Well, according to you Swedes and Finns "did it". I think that state apparatus that later on gave Kievan Rus' and Moscuvy appeared as result of Varangian domination over both Slavs and autoctonous Finnic inhabitants of the region. But Novgorod, Pskov, as well as Kiev and other cities were Slavic settlements,- possibly on the place of some previous Finnic ones, - later some of them became centers important to the Norsemen, for commercial reasons.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Some centers were possibly built by Varangians themselves, like старая ладога, aka Aldeigjaborg, etc. Many of the settlements, as well Norse as Slavic were located on the place of some prior Finnic sttlement,- natural fact indeed, as Finnic tribes lived in the nowadays northern Russia prior to IE peoples.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
There certainly was Norse domination in the region at some time. Thing is that peoples at the bottom of all were finnic tribes,- less organized, less bellicose, probably less in numbers too. Slavs consolidated their presence in the region with time, prevailing over Norse, Finnic and later on Turkic peoples. Slavic overall superiority is objectively seen from a simple fact that Russians speak a Slavic language and not a Finnic one, while living mostly on the former "Finnic lands".
Be well.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Yeah, no need to argue. Yes, Slavs took over and started oppressing their old rulers. That's what usually happens when there is a switch of power.
Just read the memoirs of Catherine the Great, and you'll see what she thinks of Fennic people. You might get surprised.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
Well, I wouldn't say "opress", I'd rather say the Norse elite basically dissolved in Slavic and Fennic population with time..It's just that Slavs largely outnumbered the Norse, so that Slavic languages prevailed by natural reasons. On the other hand, local Fennic tribes were assimilated by Slavs in larger proportions than many may (or want to) believe. My personal opinion is that Russians are at least 1/3 Fennic, maybe more. Anyhow, we are all of mixed blood.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Sure sure, dude I am not a racist or a slav hater. The argument started only from that other guy calling Fennic people despised, when in fact they were the nobility.
I have nothing against being friends with Russians. It is just the fucking filthy nashis and their distortion of history I despise.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
Oops, sorry. You're the same guy. My bad. I'm a bit slow after just waking up.
And if you are from Guinea-Bissau my ass grows magic mushrooms. That is a typical nashi tactic. Know thy enemy. But I don't want to be your enemy.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
Too much koskenkorva :D Btw what is that "nashi" you are talking about? Also, Fennic people never were the nobility,- nobility were the Norse, Slavs and Fenns being the "main population". Concerning Slavs and Fenns: the former were less "Barbaric" than the latter - Fenns lived with huntering and fishing while Slavs also had agriculture and pasturing. Also, they were more advanced in military issues and this explains why Slavs assimilated the "Fenns" and not vice versa.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Now, don't take me wrong, I am not a Finnic despiser: but one has to agree that there are stages of development: technological, "civilizational" if you want. From that point of view, the Norse were "less barbaric" than the Slavs, and these were "less barbaric" than Fennic peoples. But to Romans the Norse/Germanics were barbarians, and for the Greeks, the Romans were savages some time.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
There are some objective reasons (technological development) for that, and other quite.. subjective (prejudices, etc) I'm not very much into "purely cultural" comparison, I'd rather consider "technology", sciences, etc. Get my point? But nothing stays still, world is dinamic: at this time, e.g. Finland is probably quite more advanced in many ways than Russia, etc I hope my point was clear.
Terve.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
No prob, man. But I know a nashi when I see one. Wiki for it. Despite that, I jst wish peace. Just do not tell lies, ok? Fennic people were mistreated and taken to concentration camps and outright killed later. Especially by Stalin. I was talking about middle ages. When the street language of Novgoror was Finish and the official one Swedish. Just read Catherine's memoirs, okay?
Joonavainio 2 years ago
I still can't see what exactly you mean by "nashi", indeed. That word means "our/s" (for plural) in Russian, and apart from that direct meaning it can refer to the Russians as people, like "we"/"us". Lately, there is a group of Putin young followers called Nashi. Which one are you applying to me? As far as Stalin is concerned, now that you mentioned him: most of the people that he annihilated were RUSSIANS.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Cool it off, dude. Yes, most were Russians. Tehnically. But 350 000 Karelians and Ingrians who are Fennic just kinda disappeared. It was systematical ethnic cleansing.
And yes, by nashi I meant that "putin-jugend" that keeps raving in the net that Russia never did anything wrong and revising history. However, I wish no fight with you.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
So, you think I am from that organization, I see. Well, I am actually not. And I am not raving in the net to say Russia never did anything wrong either. Regarding the genocide of Stalin times, I'll be dull and repeat: most victims were RUSSIANS. Other minorities were persecuted? No objections there. That regime as well as the modern is anti-russian in the first place. Regime of the german tsarica Catherine the great you were mentioning before was anti-russian too.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Okay, don't get hasty there now. In Finland the term nashi has become to mean anyone who does what they do. If you do admit the genocide of Finnish people by Russians, then we're okay. Sure, they killed millions of their own, but those were mostly ethnic minorities, too.
You might want to see the film "Soviet story" Then you might understand why we are - if not hating - wary of Russians. And it goes back for centuries.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
Look, if you state that victims of the stalinist repressions were mostly "non-Russians", we are going nowhere. I can bever agree with such a BS, sorry for the expression. The communist regime itself from the very beginning was not Russian, ethnically speaking. You blame me for what Lenin, Trotski, Stalin, Kaganovich etc etc did? None of them was Russian in fact. Look up the names of the main leaders and you'll probably see what I mean.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
You'll say many Russians remember those guys with warm words? You'll probably be right. I say: idiots who don't deserve my respect at all. Why? Because I am not proud for russian empire, soviet union and russian federation as political structures at all. So all those imperialistic dreams of some of my countrymen,- I don't share them. I don't say this as a disclaimer, it is just what I feel. And there are more Russians who think like me in this aspect.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Well, dude. Then you are okay and I apologise for my mistake. It is a technical matter who is "Russian", as the area of Russia has vast amounts of different ethnic groups. Of course those motherfuckers killed millions of ethnic Slavs, too. If they happened to disagree with whatever the current government was. And is. And I feel sorry for them, too.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
No offense taken, man.
Be well.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Btw Stalin ( true last name Dzhugashvili) wasn't Russian himself but Georgian, and I don't feel either proud or responsability for his deeds. Am I clear enough?
Novgorod.. Street language of "Novgorod as such" was West Slavic dialect akin to the dialects of Northern Germany and Poland, of the so called "Polabian Slavs". Finnic languages were spoken before, during and even after the Slavs arrived to what is North-West Russia.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Lol that? When Novgorod has been based, all Slavs spoke in one language. East Germany was slavic and no Finns yet existing. Greeks named Slavs - Scythians, for example Gerodot.
32167BD 2 years ago
Hmm it's arguable that Slavs spoke one language at the time Novgorod was based. Most likely not exactly the same one, though dialects they spoke must have been mutually understandable. No Finns existing? Fennic peoples lived in the area of modern Novgorod far before Slavs arrived there. Scythians were Iranic tribes, not Slavic, to be precise.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Names of cities and districts of those times coincide on all east part of Europe. Such people as Finns was not. Scythians were empire when there were Scythians, Slavs yet were not, they were a part of empire of Scythians. Has not remained a Scythian, only burial places and certificates of the Greek historians. That that Scythians Iranian - only a hypothesis. Gerodot named Scythians of all from Danube to Altai. Clothes and products coincide with a wound Slavic.
32167BD 2 years ago
But Novgorod as such, developped on the basis of Slavic peoples. It's plausible that Fennic tribes (merä e.g. ?) lived on the very same place before Slavic Novgorod "appeared" or immediately near its location. It's quite possible that Fennic peoples were a relevant proportion of Novgorod populaton too.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Nevertheless, it seems that Slavic was the main VERNACULAR language over there (medieval Novgorod), as it is reflected on the birch bark inscriptions found in Novgorod, and obviously in older period writings, and not FENNIC. Norse language was the language of the Varangians primarily. Official?.. It seems that they didn't make significant efforts to impose the use of their language for broader use, as reflected by the inscriptions found in modern NW Russian lands.
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Sorry, but the birch bark letters we have sent to Finland to friends and relatives telling of everyday things like love letters and such are in Finnish.
If you really are from Guinea-Bissau, why are you so ken to defend Russians in everything? I know lots of Russians who are okay. I have no problem with that.
Joonavainio 2 years ago
The instrument is called 'гусли' in Russian (gusli).
SolntsaSvet 2 years ago
Magnifique!!! Fascinante!!
Laulanmad 3 years ago
hey! this is amaising-sounds so good))
paganSlav 3 years ago
Wow! Thats Awesome!
ville666iz666god 3 years ago
Awsome!
I also want to know which tune it is?
Mahalgathol 3 years ago
That was really, really great, I love your playing, please do some more videos!!
michaeljking 3 years ago 2
What song is this?
tylercrash 3 years ago
Браво!
kielijakantele 3 years ago
Nice. :)
SolntsaSvet 3 years ago
I would really appreciate more of your playing. I am leaning myself...and found your style and sound very...wonderful.
Thanks
Bill
kanteleman 4 years ago 10
Wow, absolutely beautiful!
KanteleHaiku 4 years ago 7