'Australia is a Crime Scene' - Robbie Thorpe --- Part 2 ---

[buxton59]

To those who are not upset at the invasion, rape, pillage & plunder & ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Original Peoples of this land & think it is not a problem anymore I ask you to consider this.... Do you believe in equality for all? If so, do you think it is ok to ignore the sacred grounds of the [Ab}Original peoples in order to mine etc? if so, then it will be ok for us to ignore your sacred grounds & dig up your cemeteries/ancestors to mine also - ok? Don't get upset over it.

If so, then as

[Yuriel45]

"do you want your children to grow up knowing their liable because their ancestors and elders didnt do nothin' about it"? Fuck off, im not liable in any way shape or form what happened in the past 250 years, thats retarded logic.

[Mozaeous]

The success of Aboriginal enterprises such as the first Australian emu farm in WA, the Noonkanbah pastoral enterprise and the management of Uluru, indicate that restoration of land to Aboriginal owners will not only restore their cultural security but in many cases provide them with economic security and independence This clearly is beneficial to all.

[tgmcrad]

@Mozaeous ...and the the yabby farm that cost the tax payer millions of dollars but end up been a handful of 44 gallon drums with a few under sized yabbies....lol. 

[Mozaeous]

Most of the land which has been so far restored to Aborigines under the existing land rights legislations or which will be open for claims under native title, is land which rich Aborigines did not wont in the first place, ie it is mainly land with no economic value other than possibly mining and tourism.

[thegamblergambler]

Stop blocking Juice.

[lawsofexpression]

I'm stunned! Of all of the Countries I thought Australia was wayyyyyy ahead of the US in this department! Racism is obvious here, there never will be NO change here. So what we have a treaty with the American Indians (it's a lie they have come to the conclusion they MUST take care of their own), but nothing but hate for Blacks here in 2010 or 2012 their most likely will be a Civil War here. And yes my Friend I am a bit scared. Sad to be scared of where you live and it's people. Good work Love

[pscucailin]

Because of the white Australia Policy, the only real racial minority before 1975 were the aborigines. Whilst the aborigines were segregated in some country towns and institutions such as the RSL, they numbered only about 50 000 out of a country of 11 000 000. Half castes were treated legally the same as whites.

Unfortunately one of the mistakes that labor made was to empower half caste or even 3/4, 7/8 white man quasi marxist aborigines as leaders of their community.

[lawsofexpression]

In the US if you have one ounce of Black in you~your dirt. Very confusing this race crap. People should be looked upon by "the content of their character."

[thegamblergambler]

The content of a contract I say.And how that contract is honoured I say.Not dictatorship I say.dont beleive pscucailin.Contracts & honoring them is what is important if people do good job of that then things can improve I say.Stop blocking Juice Please.

[orbidic]

First the recorded history is examined, second the media is generated (artistic, educational, journalistic), then political angles are devised, cases are heard and parties are formed. As a white Australian I can speak for myself and say the time when any indigenous political group rules any parliament in Australia and orders a thorough reconciliation doesn't have to be the day I leave Australia.

[Lazzzyeye]

But won't that also be the day aboriginal culture officially dies?

[orbidic]

What's your meaning with aboriginal? Heaps of culture was wiped out and heaps is still walking into immortality! What part of any culture dies and what part still goes on every day? We all have memories and we're all human so just because there is no separated nation of people doesn't mean a political party can't have a strong constitution built on bias against past wrongs.

[Lazzzyeye]

What's all this talk about a 'treaty'? What sort of treaty? What is he even talking about.

If a white man gave this lecture no one would take it seriously

[silverbeatful]

Are you trying to prove how ignorant you are or do you really need some answers? Please educate yourself about the history of your own country.

[Lazzzyeye]

I really do need some answers.

I know plenty of the history of my country and its butchery.

But I don't know what this guys point is. I heard nothing but a (rightfully) bleeding heart. But what solution is he offering?

Please, if you could take the time to outline what this treaty involves in 500 words or less you may really help to enlighten someone whose views you find contemptuous

[silverbeatful]

the treaty IS the solution - hundreds of treaties, with all the surviving groups. The treaty is a formal recognition under international law of the continued existence of Aboriginal sovereignty. It states the terms of European occupation on this land. Currently, our tenure of this land is still based on the principle of terra nullius, which was obviously a lie - as the High Court established in Mabo.

Robbie's point is that until treaties are made, Australia remains at war with the Aborigines.

[Lazzzyeye]

Alright, thanks for your time I need to think a little more

[dankbot420]

when your finished in australia, come over to the states and say the same thing

[robertjbassett]

take captain cook to court he single handeadly took over australia he killed 50.000 aboriginals with one shot he.s your man

[IdaSputum]

The TRUTH behind AUS is fucked up. Ive just been there & HEARD idiot Aussies say "KEEP OZ WHITE" - when it was NEVER whte.

70 Indian students were killed in a YEAR.

Down on Circular Key in Sidney there's Aboriginees busking digeridoos.

I stayed ALL day,

The pic was ALL WRONG! Couldn't get OVER how the REAL Aussies are NOW a SIDE-SHOW for coins!?

Or reduced to alchies begging? Its BACKWARDS

A STOLEN country run by NUTJOBS descended from CONS sent to KILL ALL to get land for QUEEN.

[davidcrocket9]

I'm of Welsh descendancy, Should I get some money from the English? What about the British? Should they get money from the Romans? And what about the victims of indigenous inter-tribal massacres ... of which there were many? Aboriginal people like every other people on the planet have a bloody, violent, sexist history and evidence indicates they caused plenty of damage to the environment. It's not only deluded whites who promote the "noble savage" myth.

[oliverbutterfield]

@davidcrocket9

this is not some distant history,

the incarceration rate of indigenous people in australia

is 5 times the rate during apartheid in South Africa

its a racist discrase happening right now.

[Lazzzyeye]

Thank you David, you've expressed my sentiments perfectly.

I mean it was a somewhat moving and emotional lecture, but that's all. I found nothing in there worth taking particularly seriously

[davidcrocket9]

The lecture is rhetoric. It's easy to move people, especially when they are already sympathetic to your cause. I reject the way people simplify history for their own ends.

[silverbeatful]

Just because your people stopped fighting for their rights, and the Brits stopped fighting for theirs, doesn't mean the Aborogines should give up on their struggle, which, as Oliver rightly points out, is much more recent history than the instances you cite.

Holocaust survivors were paid massive compensation from the German Gov't - buggered if that doesn't that upset your simple little argument.

[davidcrocket9]

Rights? Yes, there is a time to fight for rights, and a time to accept reality. This country is no longer managed by hundreds of Aboriginal tribes and never will be. Do you think that massive compensation payments help people to improve their lot in life?

[silverbeatful]

1. And who are you to decide when it is the right time for a people to stop fighting for their rights and accept reality?

2. This continent has been managed by Aborigines for 98% of human history - we have just arrived and in less than 200 yrs have severely mis-managed the basic resources: water, land, forests...

3. not payments but land rights, rights to land - yes, that would help people to improve their lot in life.

[davidcrocket9]

Obviously it is not up to me to decide when people stop struggling for what they perceive to be "their rights". But here in the Northern territory lots of Aboriginal people have already decided it for themselves. Meanwhile many others ignore opportunities and responsibilities because they are led on by idealistic people from other cultures who encourage them to do so for the vicarious satisfacton of their half-baked ideals.

[Lazzzyeye]

Aboriginals had no concept of money or private property, let alone government. Surely any compensation would take one of these forms. So wouldn't accepting compensation be self inflicted genocide?

What other solution is there? Deport 20mil people and destroy their cities and infrastructure to restore the old order?

And another thing. Many of us want the first owners of this land to have access to good education, health care, housing etc.

Is this not assimilation? Non-violent genocide?

[silverbeatful]

The best form of compensation in fact is not money but land. What many Aborigines have been asking for is not welfare, handouts, native title, or reconciliation - they've demanded Land Rights. Ie: the right to be in charge of their own lives on the lands where they were born.

No need at all to deport anyone - there is plenty of room here for both people.

You say: 'Many of us want' - but what about listening to what 'the first owners want?' It wouldn't be so much of an Assimilation then!

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[Lazzzyeye]

I agree it sounds great but I wonder how feasible it really is

Now that they have been exposed to the western way of life, can they really return to a time without money, clothes, alcohol etc?

When given the land, how will they rule over it without government? Won't they have to organize in a way that undermines their cultural integrity?

How are 'they' anyway? Is it really fair to talk about a collective will, when there exists more a group of individuals

What of those who want to 'assimilate'?

[Lazzzyeye]

Who*

I apologize for the number of questions there, and I don't expect you to be able to answer them. (damn these 500 character limits!)

I fully sympathize with the ideals, Im just skeptical about their practicability.

Aboriginal culture is no longer isolated hence it cannot avoid contamination from ours. It will never return to its purity prior to colonization - hunter gathers can't roam these lands. Remote communities are disgusting. And 'assimilation' is apparently unacceptable.

loseloselose

[AltaicSupremePride]

good video!

[Flatjet]

Same thing goes on in America,Canada and Nepal...

[ejbh3160]

It amazes me how many people don't even realise that this genocide happened.. but its the same the world over... from the Americas to Africa to Australia the Europeans went on a killing rampage & their descendants aren't ever taught that their lives are built on the mass murder genocide of indigineous peoples.

So sad that it still goes on today!

[silverbeatful]

V.true - As Robbie says in the vid, its an undeclared war, a secret invasion.

The genocide is commonly known under the euphemism, 'colonialism', whitewashed-clean with words like 'discovery', 'exploration', 'settlement' and 'pioneers.'

[IndieFilmsTV]

peace & light

[a3patriot]

This video sucks. I'm sure the aborigines are a lot like the African Americans. They whine, bitch and do nothing to help themselves. It's the same with the blacks everywhere. Then they have these so called "civil rights" leaders who politicians cave into.

[silverbeatful]

i'm sure you are a lot like the KKK and racist biggots everywhere in the world too.

not sure about 'blacks' not doing anything for themselves! last time i checked, one of them made it all the way to becoming president of the usa. you may have heard about him.

[a3patriot]

silverbeatful,

That is one out of 37 millions. Black have the highest unemployment, dropout, murder, robbery, burglery, rape, AIDS and lack of fatherhood rate of any other race in the US.

[silverbeatful]

well, its got to start somewhere right? Point is, all those disadvantages you list have a lot to do with the history of slavery, exploitation and discrimination and under-education to which they were shackled for centuries and are not a sign of innate black inferiority.

[a3patriot]

silverbeatful,  I think you spend too much time reading liberal newspapers. What you list(slavery, exploitation, etc) has happened to every race on every continent on the face of the earth. I have slavic ancestry. Guess where the world slave originates from? Slavs were enslaved for 400 years in Europe during the middle ages.

[Gypsypipe]

Your fighting a good fight guys. They did the same thing to my country's forefathers. Few tribes are remaining now, What's left of them, have become tourist attractions. Indigenous People around the World deserve better

Great Video guys

[saeedan42]

I am Muslim based in the uk. I had thought the Aborigines had given up and given in. It's good to hear the struggle is still alive. I would be glad to support you and raise awareness in uk and amongst my people. I tried to go on the website blackgst but some other page opened up.

please look at the press release page of my website. My website name is on my channel. You will see that these terrorists are still very active in the world.

[saeedan42]

Salam (peace be upon you). I completely agree with you. Some people who call themselves Christians preaching that if any one slaps one cheek then give them the other cheek to slap as well. Unfortunately, these people are the ones going around slapping everyone else.

They committed genocide in America, Africa, Austrailia and now the Middle East. We need to all unite and work together to oppose these true terrorists who steal the lands of others.

[OzNativeBorn]

Top speech, I think it genuinely articulates the true sentiments of the majority (if not all) of the Aboriginal community. Very strong and powerful wording, that is unless you subscribe to the redneck's way of thinking. Top work brother keep it up!