Fu Zhongwen - Fajing

[yoda93100]

yang cinnbar palm 

[yoda93100]

yoda say push the floor hmmmm yes red face like god of war ? yes good

[oscie1]

He has the jing!! If he makes contact with you , its all over

[micsir888]

whip, whip, whip. There is no secret here but physics. I could show you a boxer and write FaJing as title and everyone would be impressed. Theres is no external or internal, there is only ground up.

[bobagee]

Well, he does share obesity with his taiji up-line.

[Blackdog23a]

I think the Fajin is quite obvvious because he is doing it in this clip.

[whoflungdat]

The Fajing is not obvious because he is not doing it.

[Roper122]

@whoflungdat ... oh obviously, thanks for your learned input. Amazing all the "expert" opinions that pop up.

[twontrot]

Tai chi is a soft form martial arts . His movements , if you notice well you will see that he did not use his arms to move but he used his waist and his mind to open and close the contraction of the bone marrow to explode the energy

[gordhill]

Please indicate exactly, at what point, you see his waist move. I have a very good understanding of what fajing is, and this isnt. It is sad that these masters left none of the original art to show and people think this fluff is the real deal when, infact, it is a red herring :(

[richardshapiroII]

you can see in many of the movements that there is movement from the kua. example would be at 0:23, a clear kua vertical opening.

it's the kua and waist and spine that are key to fa, not just waist.. and with a baggy shirt like that, you couldn't see him move his kua or spine very well.

at 1:17, you can see a small waist turn.

he's showing small frame skills, not big training movements. big in practice, small in application...

[gordhill]

fu was a master. That DOESNT mean that what we see here is what he did in reality! This ISNT what you call it, small frame? Please. They are large frame movements, like chenfu taught. This is a master on tape NOT doing what he would do if the camera wasnt on! a RED HERRING!

[richardshapiroII]

if this is large frame movement, where is the big hip turn? small frame just means you make the move small and tight. get good enough, you can't see the move at all, just the effect. I have seen and felt folks do this, so...

He may not be showing all he can do, but I went and checked out some of him doing some fa jing, and his moves look a lot like this, so I guess I just don't get the red herring bit.

oh, and I laughed at "peanut butter jelly" cat :-)

[Kippest]

@gordhill

I'm sure when someone has practiced this method for 70-80 years as long as this man has, there's no need to move the hip to generate external power. I don't need to go further than read your post to you know have not trained 70-80 years in yang style taiji, in any case, unless you have trained with him or knew well of those who did, your opinion on his methods doesn't make them any more or less valid within your own preconceived notions about what Fa Jin is

[Kippest]

how didn't he leave the original art. I'm curious! he taught his whole life for free in china, as one of the most respected heads of martial arts!

he definitely had nothing to hide from new-martial artists knowitalls like you

[gordhill]

Know it all! I wish. But thanks for the compliment. Please learn your Yang family history OUTSIDE of Chenfu's line! I know its hard, but the Yang family did an art that is nothing like "modern" slow tai chi. Fu had skills. What he is showing here has nothing to do with those skills however! If you had a "secret", would you put it out for the world to see for free? The yang's didnt and neither did Fu. If you believe he did, great! You're one of the 99%! Modern taichi is garbage.

[Gman6755]

Sorry, I am not impressed at all with this chinaman. I bet he can put away some serious amount of chinese food however....

[Lynwe]

do I need to study Taiji to learn fajing? or is there a possibility to learn only fajing ?

[taijispirit1]

This is a subtle demo by Fu Zheng Wen, he was famous and talented by no mistake, people in China and only a few in US are aware of his skill. This fajing is not obvious to beginners or people unfamiliar to Taiji.

[oldtyger]

This is pretty neat. You don't see too much of Yang style fajing. Every taijiquan style has fajing. Chen style is probably the best known and it's true the shaking kind is what that style is best known for. However there are many different ways to express power and each method can be used in the right context. I also studied bagua and my teacher frowned on shaking fajing--he taught us a very steady type of fajing that coincided with footwork and was quite powerful.

[Loyaute]

Real taijiquan has the 5 elements of xingyiquan in it, as well as 8 changes of baguazhang.

In modern taijiquan, though, you see very little fa jin (or na jin, hua jin, da jin, etc.) because very, very few modern students get far enough into the programme to be able to do it.

This is compounded by the vanishing scarcity of laoshi who have the entire syllabus to teach.

Most teachers have only vaguely heard about what it meant, what people had to go through, to learn taijiquan.

[jigokunoshinigami]

@Loyaute In my school we learn Yang Lu Chan's 108 form and it has no fajin. Xingyi and Bagua come later in the program.

[dowhatthouwilt911]

I know that Fu Zongwen was famous for his tai chi, but here he is clearly doing hsing-i. It makes sense; in my experience, hsing-i contains more fajing-oriented movements.

[richardshapiroII]

taiji has fajing in it too. it wasn't emphasized by yang cheng fu and others of his generation because they had a mandate to teach the health aspects widely. so what they taught made it more suitable for lots of people to get  the health benefits. but before that, the training was more martially oriented. and there are a few masters, like this one, who learned the martial elements. But this clearly looks like taiji to me, not hsingi.

[JianChuanTaiChi]

Real fast for his age!

[hyoung888888]

Took me a few months to understand what is going on. This is a lesson.

Repeat: this is a lesson.

Repeat what he is doing if you can.

But don't do it if you have not practiced Tai Chi (everyday) for 3 months or a Shaolin fists forms for 3 months. Do it at your own risk.

This is a great exercise to reach a goal.

[MaQingYi]

thank you for putting the at your own risk, few people understand the risks involved to your tendons if you haven't already trained properly before hand

[vainman]

I would say three months is not nearly enough, I have practiced for 13 years, and still am not completely sure what I am seeing here. Please remember that the entire body must be coordinated(driven by the waist). I would totally have missed seeing his jacket move, hinting that these moves are totally waist driven before.

If you are to practice these moves, please ensure you have figured out how your body moves your arms without your arms moving independently. Start slow.

[hyoung888888]

Wow 13 years. Hope you found a good instructor to help. You should be able to throw out energy by now. If not, find another teacher.

I am still looking for such teacher. The teachers I met were good, but not good enough. Could not emit, throw out "jing"

Note: the secret is in the breathing, and walking at least 2 hours a day. If you don't do the walking, and not doing the breathing, you will not succeed.

[vainman]

I have had more than one good instructor. Throwing out the jing is no mystical secret thing, if you are looking for some energy blast, or what we see often in these videos, sorry.

What I am saying, is that to do what he is showing on the video is going to take more than three months to even learn how to move your body.

If you aren't familiar with the subtleties or the Yang Style, you won't understand what you are seeing here, it may look like he is just moving his arms.

[vainman]

I would say that the first secret is in the waist. The walking and breathing are easy, the waist is hard for most of us.

I ask my students to do post birth abdominal breathing for the first year, so that it becomes second nature, then they begin pre-birth breathing. Heng and Ha

[hyoung888888]

I still stand by my statements.

My sifu was born before 1910, or perhaps 1900. His granddaughter in law says he is still alive, but I don't see him any longer.

His generation, most people didn't have cars, and he has to walk/jog at least half an hour from home to work, for years.

Same story for Yip Man. The old masters walked for hours each day and practiced the breathing at the same time.

[vainman]

I was not saying your statements were wrong. Nor was I discounting your statement about the breathing.

I have found though, to even start doing what he is doing here takes students much more than three months, unless they have studied yoga or quite a bit of a martial art.

So, I just wanted people to realize that what he is doing here is much more complicated than what the average taiji student would be capable of after three months of classes.

[linglingchat]

Thats great! Refined fajing looks like this, not that shakey stuff thats so popular with everyone.

Nice post!

[vainman]

Not sure if everyone that does the shaky fajin is doing it right, but some of the energies when expressed without a body to absorb(read bag or real body) do look a little shaky. Notice I say a little, not over dramatized.