Honduras under siege

[fish1597]

ok genious you simplistic mind cant handle a lot , i s the same thing , Chavez trie to close the stations because ids part of his strategy to control the media , fidel style. It seems to me that you must be some kind of looser that has never been im my country. I was during a period of my life comunist rebel that learned that the people you support are the ones full of i ,Chavez is de facto a dictator. the only whore i met was your mother and i think not marring her offended you little bastard

[maryuriwood07]

Wait I am so confused wasn't zelaya taken out because he wanted to be dictator and he wanted to do what the supreme court did? If so what was the point of the coup then If the supreme court was going to do what they trying To prevent

[hughex16]

fuck zelaya they should have shot him at his house then they could have called it a coup the melistas are misinformed people how are ignorant to the fact that they are being used and manipulated they should read real history and decide then

[fish1597]

the real news only if you are ultra left winger .

[bapyou]

@fish1597 "the real news only if you are ultra left winger"

Fox News: Fair & Balanced only if you're a fascist.

[fish1597]

@bapyou no just a common man with common sense , if i dont like fox news i can change to other 200 plus channels that are available, there are at least 5 other stations that differ with fox news, what is the problem . The difference is that in cuba and north korea and sonn my country Venezuela you might not be able to do that.Communism in modern times have failed for the same reason , it forgets human nature. Get a life and dont act like an elitist seems that you will get along with Chavez....

[bapyou]

@fish1597 " if i dont like fox news i can change to other 200 plus channels that are available"

In other words, freedom and politics for you is defined by changing the channel on your TV?

No wonder you think that Fox News is fair & balanced.

If you are Venezuelan, you know there are right-wing stations in Venezuela who deride Chavez every single day. So don't give me that horsehsit about Chavez & media repression, again, as if TV is the only thing that defines politics.

[fish1597]

@bapyou yes is as simple as that , but you ideology cant let you think that way , why is fox news so important ? if there are other stations with different point of views.Freedom of choice is important , in Venezuela if you are as you call a right wing station that is not in line with chavez gets harassed and is always under threat that will be close or nationalized , this is a well documented fact so don't act like you dont know if you are so smart and politically savy

[bapyou]

@fish1597 You're a fucking idiot. Politics is not changing a channel on the television, you fucking assfucking fool.

"right wing station that is not in line with chavez gets harassed"

That's bullshit you've swallowed from right-wing media. Chavez didn't renew a single televison station license because the station publicly called for Chavez' assassination. In the US, saying such a thing is against the law. I don't blame Chavez.

You are a coward & a whore. You suck the cocks of the rich.

[fish1597]

@bapyou being able to change channel is what you can do in free countries so i can clarify your ignorance , i am not interested in the series of Chavez alo presidente and him giving rants about his crazy logic and blaming everybody else except himself.Chavez has decimated the venezuelan economy giving us for two yrs a no growth economy controlled by his cronies and Cubans.When a cum sucking goatfucker talks like you supports the dictator of my country i know he doesnt know jack

[bapyou]

@fish1597 Hugo Chavez has increased democracy in Venezuela via the neighborhood councils. And he has also increased literacy in Venezuela.

Sorry about the "no-growth" economy. But then, the only kind of economy that seems to make sense to corporate whores like yourself is one which enriches your bank account at the expense of the greater population. We have whores like you in the United States as well.

So keep sucking your own dick, whore. We all know you love it.

[fish1597]

@bapyou look hugo started as a reformer and evryone was behind the good ideas he had , then he changed to be a socialist and later into a comunist dictator in the fashion of of fidel , for everything good he has done he has also stole billions with friends a cronies and has made Vz a crime ridden land. If you think corruption was bad before maybe you should try now is out of control. the neiborhood council carry guns to intimidate anyone agains chavez , good system same a cuba , great change..

[bapyou]

@fish1597 Eveyrthing you've written about Venezuela is a lie. And everything you've written about Cuba is a lie. The Cuban neighborhood concils protect the revolution as they should. Since 1959 the U.S. has tried to assassinate Castro dozens of times, bombed Cuba, contaminated crops, bombed airplanes & infrastrcuture, & enforced a strangling embargo on Cuba's economic activities. In light of this, I admire, not revile, the Cuban people, who have stood strong against such a sustained attack.

[fish1597]

@bapyou seems to me that when you have your head up your ass the sky is brown , for the rest of the free men in the world is blue. My wife is cuban and i have been there, the biggest enemy is castro that has slaved his own poeple and has made a prision state, or what is the reason that Cubans leave Cuba if it is such a paradise?The cuban neiborhood councils were designed to gather intelligence on people against castro in venezuela they are starting the same, community leaders with guns? Right

[fish1597]

@bapyou is people like you that are so fanatical that can even see the truth or are so ignorant that dont know better, Castro has been a killer and my wife was a witness to castros murderous behavior . People taken away and killed my castros operatives was a common practice in Cuba. That is why such an effective way of submitting a country is applied by Hugo Chavez the dictator of my country , hopefully like Quadafy they both will fall in the hands of the people they have enslaved for so long

[fish1597]

@fish1597 It seems to me that like you are thin skinned and cant handle a different point of view something that you have in common with Chavez , in a democracy there are differences of opinion. you cant impose your ideas and not expect some kind push-back from the opposition . Like every communist idealist if someone differs with what you say you need to quiet then down with force . That is the base of a totalitarian government , i am free and dont need a government to tel me what to do

[patriadolida]

View CATRACHINGON channel. Very good. Yea!

[imou8125150]

The Real News???? This Ms Oliva is a fascist, and this web site is all about advancing fascism. That goes for the UN as well. It is CLEARLY stated in the Hon. constitution artical 5 that the pres. does NOT have the power to have a ROUGE referendum (HE WANTED TO FRFORM THE CONSTITUTION BY ELIMINATING THE 1 TERM 6 YEAR PRESIDENCY) and that according to ARTIC 239 ANY ATTEMPT BY ANY POITICIAN TO CHANGE THE TERMS OF 1TERM 6 YRS WILL BE KICKED OUT. By the way the balots for the ref. came from VEN

[ahonduransopinion]

Zelaya is the perfect example, of only ignoring, mocking and defying government powers. Congress, supremme court, public ministry, attorney general and the supreme electoral court STAYED EXACTLY the same as they were before Zelaya was removed; GUESS WHO REMOVED ZELAYA. Military stayed backing these 5 goverment powers, Only the executive branch changed, because the REAL threats were Zelayas intentions to move Honduras to Chavez' side BY FORCE. Those are the real news, not indoctrination.

[jusdawayitis]

bro michilite is for guns, did you hear him say that zelaya wont come back unless he comes back with guns, you dont say that man.... michilite has a dangerous way of thinking the egghead

[show555]

Honduras will defend democracy and freedom at any cost. That was the message to Hillary Clinton and the rest from countries against the majority of public opinion have persisted in calling a coup by constitutional mandate the dismissal of Zelaya.

[PdishmonkeyJJ]

i hope zelaya returns

fuck micheletti

[edwardjames81]

Que mujer mas mentirosa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jajajaja siempre fuimos libres a marchar por la PAZ! NO CHAVEZ!!! NO ZELAYA NEVER!!!

[TheJulienT]

but Zelaya will be back beacuse althought these tools are trying to go back to the 70s and 80s,, we are in 2009,.2010 ina few months..and they cannot stop time...

[CubanodePlacetas]

Zelaya will be back to go to jail for corruption and violating the constitution. Tell me the date and time to way for him. For all of those who want to know what Zelaya, Chavez, and Castro had in store for the Honduras people, watch here the movies : "Escape from GDR" and also "Soviet Story". This movies will show you what the communists are good at.

[chepsoki]

Zelaya will never return to Honduras...like you said we are in 2009 and there is no room for dictators in a free and democratic country.

[TheJulienT]

obama is not only not a "change" at all but he is even going backwards by supporting a coup in a region which has historically been plagues by these contra diseases and anti-progressive corporate movements..back to the 70s and 80s obama has pretty much same policies as reagan except he smiles and he looks "nice" and of course he speaks well...but the democrats have historically caused more free-trade and more privatization than the republicans..and I frankly dislike republicans to begin with..

[CubanodePlacetas]

Obama has is continuously on the wrong side of every issue. He is on the side of antiamericanists like Chavez and Castro than in line with justice. Good that americans are opening the eyes. We will get rid of this guy in the next election.

[catrachito08]

The real truth in this coup, is not mel zelaya, the real deal is that people who own big restaraunt chains like burger king. ruby tuesday, fridays, rental cars, hotels like marriot,etcs that dont pay any taxes, this is the example of the owner of ruby tueday which is the ALVAREZ family and the owner of 7 fast food chains the kafati villeda family, this powerful families are behine of this organization called UNION CIVICA DEMOCRATICA, mel zelaya was against this type of priviledges

[TheJulienT]

absolutely correct...in fact obama is completely for that kind of shituation you are describing where the minority accumulates resources at the expense of the majority while making them poorer and destroying the planet

in fact

educated and travelled thinkers and some intellectuals the world over are aware of this

neo-colonialism is a nasty thing

people of the world unite against colonialism regardless of where you come from race class creed no matter

[lamortedarthur]

Zelaya is truly a disgrace to our country, Chavez plans for expasionism ends here, even if it depends of international alienation, everything is fine, we agree with his distitution, everyone is free to protest, that is a lie militia has never ambushed houses only if they need to. 70% of our country agrees. Peolpe spoke already

[osonixer]

clinton-obama neocons vs honduras and their people

[kyori189]

we want the president zelaya BACK RIGHT NOW before is to lated we are in the 80s time again.,.,.,.,DONT LET THE ARMY SCARED U,..

[alex200040]

well the truth is buy your self a weapon because the future of honduras is really bad ,,jesus said ones who ever kill by the sword shall die by the sword,, i love the peace but if you think that your own army is traying to take over your country well my sugestion is defend your self for freedom,,thats my opinion,,i hope that micheleti give up hes throne but i also hope that mel dazen return either,, so ,,take care and i will pray for all your souls cause chavez will start a war with micheleti?

[TheJulienT]

do you have any valid arguments?

[TheJulienT]

well..that same "community" using that term loosely has sanctions in effect against the Iranian govt already and never stops attempting to de-stabilize it..the one thing Honduras and Iran have in common is the fact that corporate interests and foreign military has histoprically put in place MILITARY DICTATORSHIP(s) in both countries...if zelaya had no popular support than why are thousands protesting?..if he did indeed than why do you fear he would be re-elected??..soto cano dictatorship...

[TheJulienT]

..would have voted to re-elect , that is...

The fact that you fail to mention that tells me you have a desire to perhaps not only go back to the 80s type dictatorship but even maybe subject Honduras to say a monarchy in Europe?..oops..I forgot monarchies do not exist in Europe anymore..bet ya carlito and dole and chiquita are probably having meetings as we write though.all joking aside.this coup is a set back for democracy worldwide and the international community, if there is one, should act

[apickle]

The international community should back the hell off, and mind it's own business in the manner that it was kind enough to extend to Iran for fear of "provoking them." Apparently, when you have or are close to having nuclear weapons, Western countries aren't dicks -- so perhaps Honduras should begin a nuclear program.

[TheJulienT]

contra motherf*ckers

[luisofsuburbia]

Very well done. I admire your intelligence :)

[luisofsuburbia]

Hmmmm like for example when Michael Jackson dies, or the next American Idol is crowned.

[Tom101229]

Well profile says you do.

People go on streets for numerous reasons take the issue of taxation in the united states with the tea baggers.

[Tom101229]

There is always riots in Egypt. What are you talking about?

[thomasg74]

@ckrogui,listen pal,you admitted in a previous comment that you are a fascist and a nazi,i think i will put my trust in the word of Bertha Oliva before you anyday,as for being ignorant,well i have been called worse,i told you before my wish was for Zelaya to serve out his term,nothing more,nothing less,simply adhere to the rule of law,latin america is turning left because popular democracy has given poor people hope of a better future,in respect of healthcare education and basic human rights.

[luisofsuburbia]

Exactly right my friend, Latin America is starting to wake up. The only counter to Globalization and Capitalism (which is ruining poor countries) is a Socialist minded minded Democracy. Btw I'm not saying that Capitalism is bad, it just doesn't work in poor countries. It wouldn't surprise me to see a Latin America United under Socialism within the next 20 years. Americas influence in the world is falling and the only way they can keep holding on to that influence is by force.

[thomasg74]

@luisofsuburbia,i am with you 100% in everything you posted,i am not in any way against the u.s people,but their cia and govt have treated latin america in such a despicable way over the last 5 or 6 decades,aiding every fascist dictator,simply so they could secure the natural resources for peanuts,they even ordered the murder of archbishop romero as he said mass,this coup is fascist in every sense of the word,latin americans are rising in unity,please GOD,this coup will fail,peace brother.

[Tom101229]

I solute you and I condemn everyone who disagrees with you.

This sudden support for Zelaya is obviously done through cooperation of massive British Empire that has infested the entire world.

DOWN WITH BRITAIN!

[Tom101229]

Congress and the Supreme Court can remove an elected president. Both did through the use of the military.

[starmanskye]

FACT: The Honduran Constitution disallows changes to items like term limits & past Presidents serving again, but it does NOT prohibit the Public from voting on writing a NEW Constitution. ALSO: Article 5 of the Civil Participation Act of 2006 specifically authorizes a public opinion poll to aid in determining policy. THIS was the authorization Zelaya acted on. There was NO intent or provision to extend his term beyond 2009. Claims he was a wannabe dictator are specious, lies of the desperate.

[Tom101229]

No Zelaya acted on adding a new term in office. His own appointed Attorney General went against him.

Come on, don't be so brainwashed and hard headed and uptight and absurd that you will actually believe this crap.

You are an American. You are not even Russian, so your ability to draw in resource material is quite limited. I don't care if you are Hispanic, because you already spoken against yourself by saying all the material is censured.

I mean come on, Zelaya ass monkey, prove your point.

[cyberspy034]

BULLSH-T

I didnt know the "Real News" was biased like CNN

Roberto Micheletti HAS the support of the people

[NastyGreaser]

absolutely and actually it was the interim gov that comitted illegal things, like reinstating general - trained by CIA - vasquez... you can be suspicious about zelaya but then you have to be absolutely suspicious about michelettis rogue gov.

[Tom101229]

You wouldn't be acting that way if this occurred in our country.

[apickle]

Today, I walked by at least six or seven foreign soldiers being trained in a U.S. military training facility. Joint operations happen a lot.

Oh, but because of a remote tie-in by some analyst on the internets, the U.S. clearly started it.

Never mind. I have no hope for humanity.

[malsx2]

maybe you should talk to the Hondurans. This man was going to change the constitution in order to stay in power for more than the 4 years allowed. Do I hear the word dictator in there somewhere? Kudos to the Honduran gov't for sticking with their constitution!!!

[rikanrebel]

get your facts right ...he and the people wanted a REFERENDUM on changing the constitution which is already very one sided...the right wing faggots are trying not to let it happen.thats the the u.s. that the people dont carer thats latin america where the people know about REAL democracy!

[Tom101229]

Get your facts straight. The people who sought to remove Zelaya are members of his own Liberal party.

They are right-wingers. They are fellow Liberals.

Real Democracy? Do you want to know what Plato said about democracy?

DEMOCRACY IS BULLSHIT! Democracy is the worse form of government especially when the people are uneducated and the society is so largely unhealthy for a democracy.

There are conditions that need to be met for a full Swiss style democracy to be established.

[starmanskye]

The Micheletti regime has done everything in their power to disinform & censor the truth from the Honduran people -- WHY would you say, 'Talk to the Honduran people'? Now the New Gov. has criminalized calling the regime-change a coup d'tat, punishable by arrest & imprisonment. Some 'democracy' alright. Why don't those who support the coup do some genuine fact-finding, to inform themselves how power is held and practiced among a small clique? WHY else be afraid of greater public participation?

[Tom101229]

LOL! What country are you from sir?

[BudaTomu]

QUE VIVA LATINOAMERICA LIBRE!!!!!!

[bishop102]

@ 8:54 he just came up with a number off the top of his head.

[apickle]

But he wasn't the "coup leader."

He was installed into power, according to the Honduran constitution, because he was the next-in-line (Speaker of the National Congress). His "military backers" were ordered to remove Zelaya by the Attorney General of the Supreme Court of Honduras.

Why didn't you report any of that, "Real News?"

[bklynson101]

20 years for a nonbinding opinion poll, wtf

[apickle]

Okay. What would you say if, despite the legal objections of the Supreme Court and Congress, President Obama went ahead and put out a referendum asking the people if we should change the Constitution?

I'll be honest. I would open my gun case and clean my AR-15, to begin with.

[bklynson101]

i will be all for it to ask the people i will had love if president bush had ask the people when he when to war.... p.s. respect to the hondura people but your constitution is a joke ,but hey my country constitution is a joke too

[Tom101229]

I know man. People don't take this into the prospective of what if it happened to them in their own country.

I am sorry but any referendum made by an executive leader without the approval of the legislative branch regardless of electoral situation that might back either branch undemocratic will be met with fierce opposition and naturally if such violates the constitution it will be met with a possible assassination.

This is how the rule of law is made. You abide by it or get thrown out.

[luisofsuburbia]

I taught a true Democratic society would be all about the people. Meaning a Democracy of the people, by the people and for the people.

Instead we have a Republic not a Democracy which is not controlled by the people but instead is controlled by a handful of politicians, that put their own interests ahead of the interest of those same people that put them into power.

[starmanskye]

apickle: What's absolutely outrageous is that mainstream, corporate-owned media continues to peddle lies & the public don't question it or express their outrage. Fact IS: Honduras' Court ruling was arbitrary & specious, Zelaya's deportation was a gross abuse of power, elites spread the lie re: his 'dictatorial ambitions' becuz it was the ONLY way to sell the coup as 'just'. Fact IS: Article 5 of Civilian Participation Act 2006 authorizes routine consultation polling of public re: policy issues.

[apickle]

If it's so outrageous, then why is the entirety of the mainstream corporate media is labelling this coup... as you see it? As unjust or, as you put it, a "gross abuse of power" as predicated by a lie perpetuated by unnamed elites? Do you have any sources to back your claims, or are you expecting me to question the mainstream media but not a YouTube comment?

I'm sorry. Zelaya openly defied the Supreme Court and the Congress. And then broke into an airbase to steal ballots. Justify that.

[TheJulienT]

ballots have no place in a military airbase #1

....the president a representative of the people must see that the military has NO power other than that vested in it by the people..#2 constitutions are made to be amended...things change in life...laws are not suppose to stay the same for ever..#3 the Honduran military is a force which is equipped and controlled from Soto Cano military base by a foreign corporation called the USA...Honduras has gone backwards to the 80s...it is unacceptable

[apickle]

Your first statement is contradicted by the Honduran constitution. According to their INTERNAL laws, the military provides the logistics behind votes. President Zelaya openly defied both the Supreme Court and the Congress - if that isn't the sign of a dictator (ignoring the checks and balances provided by the separation of powers)... then I don't know what is.

The fact that you failed the mention that tells me you have an axe to grind, rather than genuinely trying to be objective.

[TheJulienT]

objectively if the military provides logistics behind votes then surely the issue would not be "was he trying to amend the constitution" but rather if and when the people who have voted to re-elect their president...secondly, and even more objectively, a military dictatorship provides neither checks nor balances..

[apickle]

1.) Zelaya had anything but the popular support of the people. An April 2009 Mitofsky poll showed he had an approval rating of just 25%, and his administration has seen rises in crime and corruption.

2.) Honduras wasn't, and isn't currently a military dictatorship. The 1982 Constitution is still in effect. The fact that you have failed to grasp that highlights your lack of knowledge on this situation, and precisely WHY this situation differs from other Latin American government turnovers.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

It is a coup that partly differs only in the form. The main reason being they spent 100 000s of US$ on PR. Another factor is that historically, Honduras' instutitions have collaborated to participate in coups in the past. Another factor is the 1982 constitution, (which Micheletti, when he wasn't suspending it outright, repeatedly violated), was written by a dictatorship, for the exclusive benefit of the rotten elite.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

"if that isn't the sign of a dictator (ignoring the checks and balances provided by the separation of powers)... then I don't know what is."

How about two of the powers ignoring separation of powers and removing the third power by force? In a way not even the antidemocratic 1982 constitution contemplates? (It gives neither president, supreme court nor congress such powers).

[apickle]

I'm not saying every participant party did what they did correctly -- in fact, the attorney of the Honduran armed forces admitted that they broke the law in ousting Zelaya. Still, to paint this as a black-and-white "coup" is dishonest -- it wasn't. The legitimate next-in-line (according to the Honduran Constitution) took power, until his replacement was voted in this November.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

If you define a coup as a small group of individuals removing a government/head of state to seize power for their own benefit and then perpetuate themselves in power, you need to examine the specifics of the Honduran case: aside from Zelaya's leftwards swing, the Oligarchy that has historically run the country with the US, ALREADY WAS in power, so they needn't have imported other leaders. So the point of the coup was to remove the leftwing annoyance rather than bring in new players.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

Furthermore, the attorney you mention admitted sending a president into forced exile was illegal, but he didn't admit the Court and Congress had no powers under the constitution to remove one in any case, Costa Rica or no Costa Rica, which according to the constitution they do not. Micheletti was voted in by a Congress on the basis of a forged letter of resignation, further undermining any claims to legitimacy in this process.

[mangotwiss]

unbelievable!! .. for one minute let's forget about if it was a coup or not... THEY HAVE TURN HONDURAS INTO ISOLATED COUNTRY!, AND NO ONE!..ABSOUTELY NOBODY is recongnizing them!.. military "thugs" are the only ones with rights!!! noone else!!!... Michelleti -AIRHEAD-

[neolestat13]

1. Primitive people don't talk when it is their turn.

2. Primitive people interrupt.

3. Primitive people tell you to shut up.

4. Primitive people like to have authority over others.

5. Primitive people are called facists.

6. Primitive people can't wait for their fucking turn.

7. Primitive people should not run our governments anymore and should be the ones working on the toughest and dirtiest jobs so they know what it means to make a living like any other common citizen.

[neolestat13]

1. Primitive people talk when it is not their turn. *****

[camb702]

What a bullshit piece.

Zalaya tried to enforce an illegal referendum by use of military force; the military refused and arrested him for breaking the laws outlined in the constitution of Honduras.

[theresponderful]

1) It was a non-binding survey.

2) What do you mean "by military force", he wanted the military to run the logistics and security, since they are the only state apparatus with the nationwide presence to do so.

3) Even if it was a referendum, which it wasn't, shouldn't you be asking yourself....."Why is it illegal to ask the people what they think?"

4) It does not matter what Zelaya did. Micheletti and co are imposing a police state. And only months before an election. This MUST be opposed!

[apickle]

Do you know how Micheletti got into power?

[NastyGreaser]

just like bush did, with the help of the supreme court.

[apickle]

That's correct, with the endorsement of a government institution tasked with interpreting the Constitution. In other words, legally.

Bush never got help with the Supreme Court (but thanks for playing!) -- he got help by an idiotic, archaic institution called the Electoral College, and then wooed the people into re-electing him by insisting that, if we didn't, the terrorists would all kill them.

Yeah, we were stupid. Sorry. But there is a case to be made that this is far from the usual coup.

[apickle]

...I don't think this was a coup. I think it's downright shameful that the leaders of my country (USA! USA! US... *sigh*), as well as the international community AND the international media have not given equal credence to the will of the Hondurans or the story as told by the interim Honduran government.

Preaching to the wrong choir, man, I think you guys should be giving us the biggest collective middle finger you can muster. Honduras is a sovereign nation.

[Tom101229]

LOL! Micheletti is also supported by Attorney General and he is a member of the Liberal Party, the same party as Zelaya.

[drock285]

how all you have to do was vote no [ key word vote ]

[apickle]

The Supreme Court and the National Congress already did vote no. Or was Zelaya's blatant defiance of the orders of those branches of government given a free pass?

[CaptainBluebear08]

Obama, it's your first coup (for all that we know, now). We will not forget it (although it was only a matter of patience). You will not turn back time.

Viva Zelaya, the Bolivarian Project--down with Supreme Court.

Delete the elite.

[paoflomidence]

This interview is ridiculous!! Honest people won`t mind that police go inside because they have nothing to hide! Not like Zelaya`s family with 1 million cash in their drawers!

[oharawinter]

cool... what's your address? we can all come crash your place, you won't mind since you got nothing to hide...

[paoflomidence]

I am amazed on how irresponsible some networks are!How can you post and deliver this type of information? Is it really that hard to research? You just interview whoever?! OMG I´m amazed! Buy the Constitution, read it and then you can have a PROPER opinion. And lady, the only ones being paid or threatened to support are the Mel supporters.

[thomasg74]

@ckrogui,my issue with you was your despicable filthy remark about Bertha Oliva and your support of these fascist thugs,you have your opinion and i have mine,your comment was so fowl,it has been thumbed off the page,7 thumbs down,you fascist types have no business mouthing off about democracy or freedom,you types are the reason latin america is moving to the left like never before,people want justice and popular democracy is delivering,you fascists are on the run,thank christ almighty.

[McWalker25]

Oliva should clearly get the same treatment Zeleya received from the military: get swept up in his pajamas and get dropped off in Costa Rica.

[INFANTRIA666]

Well i think that the military has shown itself for what it is, an untrustworthy weapon of the rich. I think that the events in the next few weeks will show us all just how determined the Honduran people are toward protecting and enforcing democracy and justice in their country, its all in their hands now

[nadax]

fuck u

[asperin]

This is Honduras' problem, let the stupidity of Democracy solve it, that is, the choice of the MAJORITY over the choice of the minority.

[asperin]

Democracy dude, Democracy, let it happen in Honduras.

Don't be a hypocrite, stay in your property keep away from other peoples' property.

[Tom101229]

When Congress impeaches a president, that president is no longer legitimate. Unless you are telling me Zelaya should be dictator and have no check against his power?

[thomasg74]

@ckrogui,are you a fascist,or maybe a nazi,do you admire pinochet and the other scum that destroyed latin america,so the wealthy u.s corporations could rape the resources of the region,because believe me ,that is exactly what this coup is all about,an attempt to drag latin america back to the dark days of dictatorships,if you back coups by right wing millitary officers.........YOU are a fascist and have NO right to talk about freedom or democracy,let him see out his term,obey the law.

[ManFaded]

Pay attention Americans. Honduras will show you how it's done. Their constitution apparently still means something.

[COCKROACHEXS999]

DONATE 2 a site that Claims to be the REAL NEWS yet like all the other Corporate Media

will NOT mention a peep about the Israeli CRIME of hijacking The Spirit of Humanity and 21 crew members including Cynthia McKinney and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate bound for Gaza with humanitarian AID IN International waters NOT A CHANCE another BS site

[RainMan34]

wut

[theresponderful]

You're commenting on a story about Honduras. The Real News does not have the resources to do every story, particularly not every time Israel violates individual freedoms.

But my largest worry is that you're implying that these specific 21 people are in some way more important than the thousands of people who's names you aren't familiar with, and who may not have won teh same prize that Kissinger and Al Gore won, who are being persecuted in Honduras in a fight for justice and self-determination.

[thomasg74]

@theresponderful,you said it,perfect response,i agree with you,but the COCKROACHEXS999 has made a very valid point also,i think this honduras coup is an attempt by the u.s intelligence services to reverse the gains made across latin america by the left,the u.s secret government has decided popular democracy must be stopped,it is getting too close to the u.s itself,the u.s can deny involvement,but it reeks of similiar C.I.A ops in the region,do you agree?

[azar1520]

Some people don't get it. Those who do not know history, are bound to repeat it again. I do not know if ckrogui is Honduran, but I must remind him that a lot of Honduras are living in exile due to poverty. Those people face the daily struggle of discrimination. If there is a reason for me being a lefty is because right wing ideologists, are not interested in educating the people. If right wingers were patriotic, all our people would have the same level of education as Asians and Europeans.

[thomasg74]

@azar1520,ckrogui is allowed to have his opinion, what he is not allowed to do is mock a woman like Bertha Oliva who stands up for those with no voice,i.e the murdered dissapeared,ckrogui is your typical fascist scumbag,posting filth then dissapearing into the shadows,if this coup succeeds,then it will be used as a staging ground by the u.s to turnback the gains made by the poor of latin america,make no mistake,the u.s is up to its neck in this coup,despite their denials,peace brother/sister

[azar1520]

Thomas, thank you for replying. I hope that the coup does not suceed, advancements have been made during the last years for progressive governments. About the US gov't and the corporation, they are hypocrites, they back military dicators who steal, and let also the multinational steal from the wealth of Latin American countries, and they continue to build a wall in the border.

[thomasg74]

@azar1520,i hope these fascists who got the nod from the u.s secret services to go ahead with this coup get their justice in the courts,the justice they would give the left would be a bullet in the head and a clay nap in a mass grave,the reason the u.s doesnt want the rise of popular democracy in latin america,is because it is TOO close to home,popular democratic govts lift up the peoples standard of education and health,when was the last time the u.s govt done anything for actual u.s citizens.

[Tom101229]

It wasn't a Coup d'etat.

The Army was acting out of permission and orders from both the Legislative Branch and Judicial Branch as well out of support from the Electoral Body and the Attorney General. The entire government of Honduras virtually supported the removal of Zelaya.

And he refused to step down even after he was impeached. So the Military had to step in. What? Can we not do the same should say Palin becomes President and refuses to step down after Congress impeaches and removes her?

[thomasg74]

@Tom101229,i have to aplaud your energy Tom,you have replied to every comment supporting President zelayas right to see out his term,can i ask you how you think you have any credibility ,as a yank,prattling on about democracy and justice in latin america,you yanks have actively supported every fascist dictator in latin america,the butcher pinochet comes to mind most readily,do you not see that this is in every sense of the word a "coup d'etat",why can't the poor be represented and have a voice.

[Tom101229]

LOL! Oh come on you expect us to believe that and that Honduras censures all media?

You know Ahmadinejad is also trying to legitimize his own election by saying it came from the huge poor population.

You know what I meet a poor Honduran, you want to know what he told me?

"Senor Zelaya es un culero y un pajero. El solo habla paja! Pisa todos!"

[NastyGreaser]

ahmadinejad most obviously could not loose.

there where polls from a ngo funded by rockfellers and in every of the 30 parts of iran.

the result was that ahmadinejad would be the winner with about 66%.

[theresponderful]

If anything, the Real News devotes WAY TOO much of its resources to doing stories about Israel and the Middle-East, wheres a story about the Kashmiris? What about Nigeria? Somalia? Colombia?

I agree that The Spirit of Humanity is a story that must be told, but for a network that can only afford to do a few true news stories a week, I think that your emphasis is a little misplaced.

[NastyGreaser]

press tv reported al the time about mckinney

[1mealperday]

it all comes back to this ..grow your own food

save your silver

[mikezephyr]

because 7 jews control the world's money supply 5 miles below the earth, yeee haaww im a pig-ignorant american!

[jokerbookshop]

a taste of martial law.

[7jerryv7]

Witholding food and humanitarian aid would be worse than what the coup leaders did. The United States lead sanctions against iraq, which caused the death of hundreds of thousands. Sanctions only harm the poor.

[alovelytime]

well said jerry.

[zebb1111]

the fact of the matter is that the ousted president was trying to change the constitution in order to stay in power longer. the supreme court and their entire congress opposed him on this issue. the army had to step in. Chavez is his strongest supporter.

[grit123]

So why didn't they just shoot down the legislation if everyone was against it?

[navtel]

president was trying to change the constitution>>>

gee that sounds vaguely familiar.. might is not right however those in power do not abide by that. check out naomi wolf's ' the end of america' if you have not done so..

[navtel]

the reigning ruler behind the coup will end up with his head in a noose.

[ejbh3160]

This is how its always done.. I hope people EVERYWHER are paying attention and making sure this doesn't happen in THEIR OWN country.

The ONLY time a military coup is 'justified' is when the political class has become so corrupt that its the only way to prevent the suffering of innocent civilians at the hands of a corrupt elite.

[navtel]

The ONLY time a military coup is 'justified' >>>

you mean like what is happening in the USA right now..? they are prime for a revolution or a coup..

[1mealperday]

i could be wrong ,but here in usa generals and politicians sleep together

[navtel]

no, you are correct.. the people will have to rise up before it is too late.. hopefully the military will realize how nefarious the government is and refuse to fire on their countrymen, however i am not too sure of that.

[BOGZASV8MA]

don't forget big buisnesses who sponsor lobby groups for the multi-national buisness quests.

[ejbh3160]

I'd say the Bankster Coup has already happened. But hey what do I know

;-)

Some would say the banking chaos is a coup on a global level.. bar a couple of key players & a couple of 'rogue nations' of course...

Its just a matter of whether there will be a backlash in the USA like there was in Greece Iceland etc. if they keep throwing money at it, there won't be race riots like in the 60's & 70's & 80's.. Obama being President has made that less likely. But then the dollar will pop & presto Amero!

[Elmeromero1]

Prime? We've been rotting on the slate for a while now just waiting.......but the sheep are lulled back to sleep like always...