Religious houses (churches) should be limited to the size of a large suburban house, approx 50sq mtrs. All incomes & properties should be subject to tax, yep that's right, "God" should pay tax, with allowances made for charitable works. No religion should be permitted to send people door to door begging for attention or anything else, and no public soliciting. It should NOT be taught in schools except as a subject giving all religions equal billing. No book of religion should be sworn on.
@kanakaken I find it funny that churches are even exempt from taxes since the tax exempt stuff seems to have started with the Christian church. And that is clearly going against the bible which they are supposed to follow, Jesus says in the bible that you should pay taxes, but of course the Catholic Church or rather the Catholic Cult as it was back then corrupted the bible by "discovering" new things in the texts saying it was OK for them to own stuff and not pay taxes. >:(
Scientology is a fake religion "created" by a science fiction writer...The whole thing is/always has been fraud and lies. I can't understand why people believe this garbage.
That's *your* belief, which is fine but you cannot impose them on anyone else. This is something that cannot be controlled, except by or in a super totalitarian dictatorship, a 1984 Orwell world.
In a truly free society, everyone would have the right to believe as they so chose & I'm not just speaking of religion only.
L Ron Hubbard created the COS, its exactly how he intended it to be. The reason why scientology has survived is because of the cos. without the organisation SP's will destroy the organisation.
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if scientology didnt work, your work on suppressing the church would have succeeded many many years ago. but the church has come to stay, and I and every other scientologist will fight to our deaths to keep it going.
Per DM's message at the last LRH B/D event, Scn's "invited" 1,010,480,489 peoples of earth to join in the planetary clearing effort & only 25,000 'hardcore' members. That's a resounding REJECTION!
"I and every other scientologist will fight to our deaths to keep it going."
Who are u responding to, sir? Where do u gather I'm a "religious nut?" All my comments on this video are anti-Scientology. And I'm not in favor of organized religion, for myself.
However, that said, religion is belief and u can no more ban religion than u can ban belief or a belief system. That's anti freedom of expression and/or belief. You can educate but to prohibit or forbid religion would be a bad thing to do for it would be a form of thought police or control & an Orwellian nightmare.
Freedoms are "earned" from whom? I think we should have the freedom to speak freely.
Have u heard one person's freedom ends where another person's begins? That aside from the fact there's such a thing as the "rule of law" which dictates our "conduct." This is the case with pedophilia. I'm not sure I want to start jailing ppl for saying things in public I may disagree with or find obnoxious.
Would you be in favor of banning books, for instance, that said what u found unacceptable?
I'm sure they'll roll out the red carpet for them at the Ft Harrison or the nearest Celebrity Center & have PLENTY of ready made Sea Org slave labor to tend to their very need.
Next time you're in one of these Scn glossy bldgs, think about all the PRISONERS in Scn's concentration camps, the RPF, who were worked day & night w/out a day off for 100+ hr wks @ 10cents an hr, eating rotten food & sleep deprived; while not able to speak to anyone unless spoken to & no comm. to the outside world.
jaynesweetie the thing is in order to expand to the whole world internationally, with no government support, you need to charge, its an easy fact. Ofcource there can be ex scientologists, I wouldnt speak for them, but I'm telling you I'm an active scientologist, and I use tech all the time and I see others using it, so yes it works.
What a load of BS! You are living in a fantasy created by a SciFi hack / drug addict, the only purpose of which is to control people in order to take their money.
I'm not speaking about your own personal very subjective auditing experience which can have the desired results 'sometimes,' not always but cannot be proven nor disproved.
If Scn "worked" Anonymous wouldn't be here for 16 mos. now & Scn would be able to confront, shatter & handle suppression.
If Scn worked, those wonderful OTVIIIs, a new being in this universe would have reversed the dwindling spiral in many areas & wouldn't be living in fear of DM.
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L Ron Hubbard was a very kind man and he helped a lot of people and still does with his fantastic religious technology. I see people every day getting wins from scientology tech. Nevertheless of government infiltration or whatever, scientology does help people, and if you have any problem with L Ron Hubbard its because you dont like that his tech works. It works for me and for me and a lot of people I know.
If his "tech" worked sweetie...everyone would be using it..There would be no such thing as an ex-scientologist and no need to charge people thousands and thousands of dollars.
Anything ENTHETA is bad & hence discarded as a LIE & actually not even looked at. It's the opposite of THETA which is good, reason, the spirit, soul, elan vital. Scientologists no longer think in terms of TRUTH or LIE but Theta/Entheta. If David Miscavige speaks the biggest embellishments about Scn's expansion that's THETA & hence good or TRUTH. If I say he beats his staff that's ENTHETA & immediately discarded (filtered OUT) KSW does the rest.
h t t p : / / askthescientologist . blogspot . com
Hubbard could curse -& did, to the top of his lungs; scaring many a new recruit when they 1st heard him- worse than a sailor.
He was kind enough to put a 3 yr old mute child in the chain locker of the Apollo for eating some telex tape per Hana Eltringham & other witnesses.
Remove the "Entheta veil" from your eyes so you can see some truth. It's a thought control mechanism taught to you by Mr. Humanitarian so you'd police your own thoughts: thoughtcrime
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And the IRS also concluded that even though the organisation takes in a lot of money on donations, no individuals (church leaders or celebrities etc) gains profit from any of the money the church takes in. It's proof that the church of scientology is a 100% non profit organisation that only wants to help humanity.
Now, they do. The superpower bldg (4X the amt needed to build/still incomplete for superpower would have to be delivered. The Library book campaign w/most books winding up on ebay for a buck & son on: IAS, Planetary Dissem, Ideal Orgs. Davie's created lots of pure donations but the "fixed donations" are a "price tag," no more, no less.
And if they're religious "donations" how can the 'church' offer a REFUND, which is only done for commercial transactions?
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in '94 the IRS did the biggest investigation on an organisation in the history, and this was on church of scientology. They couldnt find anything illegal on scientology, and thats why the church itself haven't been charged with anything illegal. The only problem is when you have people inside the organisation who does criminal acts, but that has nothing to do with how the church operates, they have been declared sp and kicked out of scientology.
Operation Snow White! Operation Freakout! Satanologist operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices, most notably those of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.Operation Snow White extended to Canada and resulted in legal proceedings against the Cult.thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Satanology.Fuck off
You've missed the part where 11 Scientologists in the US were sent to prison and hundreds more indicted for bugging the IRS and other government offices, stealing over 300 000 government documents which resulted L Ron Hubbard fleeing the US.
And other small things such as the Church of Scientology being banned in Greece for government infiltration, being deemed unconstitutional in Germany for having a fascist-like structure and indicted Belgium as a criminal organization.
The only ones that are 100% non profit are the poor Sea Org members & other staffs around the world who work from for peanuts to doing slave labor for less than 50 cents an hr., working sometimes 100+ hrs for less than $50 a week.
David Miscavige's salary is $150,000 a yr. & he has most if not all his expenses taken care of; including owning several expensive homes & cars. Trust me, he's making a profit. And he's now abusing people. His time is near. EXPECT US!
slam those scientology scumbags!
lightshiner4ubud 1 year ago
But if you want to practice a religion that's OK within the confines mentioned.
IT SHOULD BE A PERSONAL & PRIVATE THING.
kanakaken 1 year ago
Religious houses (churches) should be limited to the size of a large suburban house, approx 50sq mtrs. All incomes & properties should be subject to tax, yep that's right, "God" should pay tax, with allowances made for charitable works. No religion should be permitted to send people door to door begging for attention or anything else, and no public soliciting. It should NOT be taught in schools except as a subject giving all religions equal billing. No book of religion should be sworn on.
kanakaken 1 year ago
@kanakaken I find it funny that churches are even exempt from taxes since the tax exempt stuff seems to have started with the Christian church. And that is clearly going against the bible which they are supposed to follow, Jesus says in the bible that you should pay taxes, but of course the Catholic Church or rather the Catholic Cult as it was back then corrupted the bible by "discovering" new things in the texts saying it was OK for them to own stuff and not pay taxes. >:(
Baeloth 1 year ago
I agree with France but throw the nutcase Islamic crackpots in as well.........
blamecanada123456789 1 year ago
Jamais jamais de la vie ! il est smauvais pour l'esprit, mauvais pour la santé, mauvaise pour tout le monde..c'est un culte
oxygenhy 2 years ago
they need to be closed down
brewt1mer 2 years ago 3
should be banned everywhere except france.
oddjobs74 2 years ago
Scientology is a fake religion "created" by a science fiction writer...The whole thing is/always has been fraud and lies. I can't understand why people believe this garbage.
cmdrkoenig67 2 years ago 5
all religions sould be Banned
A Atheist world would be a better world 4 all
RealityGameWorld 2 years ago
That's *your* belief, which is fine but you cannot impose them on anyone else. This is something that cannot be controlled, except by or in a super totalitarian dictatorship, a 1984 Orwell world.
In a truly free society, everyone would have the right to believe as they so chose & I'm not just speaking of religion only.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago 4
religion in general isnt exactly welcome in europe,it's just a matter of time until scientology goes down
Kamadeva01 2 years ago
Lets hope the French arent intimidated by these wackos.
KevinFL 2 years ago 6
scientology must be destoyed.
down with tom.
founding member : church of the SPs
dynobreath 2 years ago 11
L Ron Hubbard created the COS, its exactly how he intended it to be. The reason why scientology has survived is because of the cos. without the organisation SP's will destroy the organisation.
DeathereX 2 years ago
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if scientology didnt work, your work on suppressing the church would have succeeded many many years ago. but the church has come to stay, and I and every other scientologist will fight to our deaths to keep it going.
DeathereX 2 years ago
"church has come to stay"
Per DM's message at the last LRH B/D event, Scn's "invited" 1,010,480,489 peoples of earth to join in the planetary clearing effort & only 25,000 'hardcore' members. That's a resounding REJECTION!
"I and every other scientologist will fight to our deaths to keep it going."
All 25,000 of you? May you RIP
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
why would u and every other religious nut want to keep a lie going, all religions will be banned and gone 4 good
a Atheist world would be a better world
no need 4 any religion what so ever.
RealityGameWorld 2 years ago
Who are u responding to, sir? Where do u gather I'm a "religious nut?" All my comments on this video are anti-Scientology. And I'm not in favor of organized religion, for myself.
However, that said, religion is belief and u can no more ban religion than u can ban belief or a belief system. That's anti freedom of expression and/or belief. You can educate but to prohibit or forbid religion would be a bad thing to do for it would be a form of thought police or control & an Orwellian nightmare.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago 3
I hope you're all for paedophiles expressing their desires in public. All freedoms are earned, not entitled. Fuck. unqualified freedom of expression.
cherylwens 1 year ago
@cherylwens
Freedoms are "earned" from whom? I think we should have the freedom to speak freely.
Have u heard one person's freedom ends where another person's begins? That aside from the fact there's such a thing as the "rule of law" which dictates our "conduct." This is the case with pedophilia. I'm not sure I want to start jailing ppl for saying things in public I may disagree with or find obnoxious.
Would you be in favor of banning books, for instance, that said what u found unacceptable?
jdtrickster4 1 year ago
Knock, knock. The inter net is here. We never forget. We never forgive. Expect Us. Neither Hubbard or Miscavige "predicted" the net.
We are YOUR SPs for YOU created us.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago 3
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Kurplunkachu 2 years ago
Lhuminon new scientology celebrities coming up, i look forward to see your reaction.
DeathereX 2 years ago
I'm sure they'll roll out the red carpet for them at the Ft Harrison or the nearest Celebrity Center & have PLENTY of ready made Sea Org slave labor to tend to their very need.
Next time you're in one of these Scn glossy bldgs, think about all the PRISONERS in Scn's concentration camps, the RPF, who were worked day & night w/out a day off for 100+ hr wks @ 10cents an hr, eating rotten food & sleep deprived; while not able to speak to anyone unless spoken to & no comm. to the outside world.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Take 'em down!
SamWise050 2 years ago
$ientology is a fraud cult.
MistaJussu 2 years ago
Oh cool, millions of more people get to know about the super exspensive core beliefs without paying. I bet none of these people die from ammonia
FreedomToResearch 2 years ago 2
jaynesweetie the thing is in order to expand to the whole world internationally, with no government support, you need to charge, its an easy fact. Ofcource there can be ex scientologists, I wouldnt speak for them, but I'm telling you I'm an active scientologist, and I use tech all the time and I see others using it, so yes it works.
DeathereX 2 years ago
What a load of BS! You are living in a fantasy created by a SciFi hack / drug addict, the only purpose of which is to control people in order to take their money.
Lhuminon 2 years ago 2
I'm not speaking about your own personal very subjective auditing experience which can have the desired results 'sometimes,' not always but cannot be proven nor disproved.
If Scn "worked" Anonymous wouldn't be here for 16 mos. now & Scn would be able to confront, shatter & handle suppression.
If Scn worked, those wonderful OTVIIIs, a new being in this universe would have reversed the dwindling spiral in many areas & wouldn't be living in fear of DM.
If Scn worked it'd have TONS more goodwill.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
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L Ron Hubbard was a very kind man and he helped a lot of people and still does with his fantastic religious technology. I see people every day getting wins from scientology tech. Nevertheless of government infiltration or whatever, scientology does help people, and if you have any problem with L Ron Hubbard its because you dont like that his tech works. It works for me and for me and a lot of people I know.
DeathereX 2 years ago
If his "tech" worked sweetie...everyone would be using it..There would be no such thing as an ex-scientologist and no need to charge people thousands and thousands of dollars.
jayneshat 2 years ago 2
Anything ENTHETA is bad & hence discarded as a LIE & actually not even looked at. It's the opposite of THETA which is good, reason, the spirit, soul, elan vital. Scientologists no longer think in terms of TRUTH or LIE but Theta/Entheta. If David Miscavige speaks the biggest embellishments about Scn's expansion that's THETA & hence good or TRUTH. If I say he beats his staff that's ENTHETA & immediately discarded (filtered OUT) KSW does the rest.
h t t p : / / askthescientologist . blogspot . com
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
"L Ron Hubbard was a very kind man..."
Hubbard could curse -& did, to the top of his lungs; scaring many a new recruit when they 1st heard him- worse than a sailor.
He was kind enough to put a 3 yr old mute child in the chain locker of the Apollo for eating some telex tape per Hana Eltringham & other witnesses.
Remove the "Entheta veil" from your eyes so you can see some truth. It's a thought control mechanism taught to you by Mr. Humanitarian so you'd police your own thoughts: thoughtcrime
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
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What Scientology does is it applies the writings of the founder LRH to HELP as much people as possible!
Mona09Sk 2 years ago
SCIENTOLOGY SUCKS.
L. Ron Hubbards fraud CULT sucks.
David Miscavige SUCKS.
Tom Cruise SUCKS.
John Travolta really really SUCKS.
anonamace 2 years ago 3
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And the IRS also concluded that even though the organisation takes in a lot of money on donations, no individuals (church leaders or celebrities etc) gains profit from any of the money the church takes in. It's proof that the church of scientology is a 100% non profit organisation that only wants to help humanity.
DeathereX 2 years ago
"takes in a lot of money on donations"
Now, they do. The superpower bldg (4X the amt needed to build/still incomplete for superpower would have to be delivered. The Library book campaign w/most books winding up on ebay for a buck & son on: IAS, Planetary Dissem, Ideal Orgs. Davie's created lots of pure donations but the "fixed donations" are a "price tag," no more, no less.
And if they're religious "donations" how can the 'church' offer a REFUND, which is only done for commercial transactions?
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
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in '94 the IRS did the biggest investigation on an organisation in the history, and this was on church of scientology. They couldnt find anything illegal on scientology, and thats why the church itself haven't been charged with anything illegal. The only problem is when you have people inside the organisation who does criminal acts, but that has nothing to do with how the church operates, they have been declared sp and kicked out of scientology.
DeathereX 2 years ago
Operation Snow White! Operation Freakout! Satanologist operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices, most notably those of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service.Operation Snow White extended to Canada and resulted in legal proceedings against the Cult.thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Satanology.Fuck off
DeathereX you Satanologist!
DOGMA4SHIT 2 years ago 3
You've missed the part where 11 Scientologists in the US were sent to prison and hundreds more indicted for bugging the IRS and other government offices, stealing over 300 000 government documents which resulted L Ron Hubbard fleeing the US.
And other small things such as the Church of Scientology being banned in Greece for government infiltration, being deemed unconstitutional in Germany for having a fascist-like structure and indicted Belgium as a criminal organization.
outtech 2 years ago
"100% non profit organisation "
The only ones that are 100% non profit are the poor Sea Org members & other staffs around the world who work from for peanuts to doing slave labor for less than 50 cents an hr., working sometimes 100+ hrs for less than $50 a week.
David Miscavige's salary is $150,000 a yr. & he has most if not all his expenses taken care of; including owning several expensive homes & cars. Trust me, he's making a profit. And he's now abusing people. His time is near. EXPECT US!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
excellent. would anyone know where I can watch the rest of this discussion? It is such a good interview.
HoneyCallMeAnonymous 2 years ago 2
I should have the interview in it's entirety on yt shortly, but here's the links to the original:
france24[dot]com/en/20090527-thedebate-should-scientology-be-banned-1
france24[dot]com/en/20090527-thedebate-should-scientology-be-banned-2
outtech 2 years ago
thank you.
HoneyCallMeAnonymous 2 years ago
Excellent !
blu9sky 2 years ago 3
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We need to start using the song "Money" by Pink Floyd at protests.
Kurplunkachu 2 years ago
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Kurplunkachu 2 years ago
lrh = mentally ill
scientology = hubbard's crusade to prove he wasnt insane and that psychiatry was wrong for calling him crazy
Church of Scientology = abusive cult that takes advantage of its members by using transference.
NearlyShaoKahn 2 years ago 5
Many thanks for posting
StopUnumNow 2 years ago 3
great video:D
laladiel 2 years ago 3
Jacque Meoff? Are you f'ckin serious...
hotlilbabes 2 years ago 3
Myard, but still cool name:D
laladiel 2 years ago 3
2:03 lol
hotlilbabes 2 years ago 3
ah, didnt notice it:)nice.
laladiel 2 years ago
HELL YES!
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 9
Must....not....fap...
JohnDoe280 2 years ago 4
you know you want to.>:)
laladiel 2 years ago 2
Ok, i say, france is NOT prosecuting scientology unfairly.
AlphaOrionis1 2 years ago 7