If you take this Mahler movement too fast, an acceleration and climax like wonderfully done at 3:20 or in the end wouldn't be possible.
Finally, note that this isnt a perfect concert hall with brilliant acoustics. Here, like in very big halls like Royal Albert Hall, you have to give the music time to expand and to discover the room it has to fill. So, open air is a special thing, especially for the tempo, if you want to keep the details and sounds clear.
@opuspocus5553 I fully agree with you. Some further aspects:
Beethoven's symphonies: The meaning of "minuet" and according to that the tempo changed with the time. Also Beethoven surely didn't take "minuet" as a dance like Haydn did more.
Chopin's Waltzes: Even without the measure, they never loose the character of a waltz. But the character of a "Ländler" is heavy, folkish. For that reason the tempo isn't as free as it would be for a minuet.
what's impressive about this is that the individual sections of strings sounds not like that many people playing mahler but one player playing mahler.
Quem pode superá-lo na disciplina, compondo perfeitamente o elo entre o humano e o divino? O Titã, é verdadeiramente a ilustração cênica-musical da ' história' , da chegada das luzes para os humanos,só contada nos mitos.
@Taktstock1 Yes, it is a landler, but one could easily justify a faster performance. In Mahler's own program, this movement's subtitle was "at full sail." I've never sailed, but I sure can imagine the sheer rush of exhilaration that takes over when the wind is strong and is pushing the boat effortlessly through the water. To me, that image isn't compatible with a slow comfortable tempo! Furthermore, the harmonic pacing of this movement is so slow that it will feel "heavy" enough at any tempo.
@Taktstock1 The minuet of Beethoven's 1st symphony and the Chopin waltzes would sound absolutely ridiculous if their tempos were only set according to the dances they originated from
You sound like a big fan. I thought you might like to know and propably already know that gramophone voted the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra as the worlds greatest orchestra.
Also, this christmas, on the 25th, there will be a live internet broadcast of them, done by MonteVerdi. Check out:
You sound like a big fan. I thought you might like to know and propably already know that gramophone voted the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra as the worlds greatest orchestra.
Also, this christmas, on the 25th, there will be a live internet broadcast of them, done by MonteVerdi. Check out:
3:55 - 6:45 I love that part.
JamiroToti 7 months ago
@JamiroToti That's the "Trio", as Mahler put it.
xaviervandepoll 6 months ago
what's with the wind intonation on the melody? LOVE the strings though...
dbpsoccer121 7 months ago
so musical... dynamic contrast is perfect
ToulBoi 8 months ago
@opuspocus5553 (continued)
If you take this Mahler movement too fast, an acceleration and climax like wonderfully done at 3:20 or in the end wouldn't be possible.
Finally, note that this isnt a perfect concert hall with brilliant acoustics. Here, like in very big halls like Royal Albert Hall, you have to give the music time to expand and to discover the room it has to fill. So, open air is a special thing, especially for the tempo, if you want to keep the details and sounds clear.
Taktstock1 8 months ago
@opuspocus5553 I fully agree with you. Some further aspects:
Beethoven's symphonies: The meaning of "minuet" and according to that the tempo changed with the time. Also Beethoven surely didn't take "minuet" as a dance like Haydn did more.
Chopin's Waltzes: Even without the measure, they never loose the character of a waltz. But the character of a "Ländler" is heavy, folkish. For that reason the tempo isn't as free as it would be for a minuet.
Taktstock1 8 months ago
Brilliant! Super!! Superb delight!!
TheJbach 11 months ago
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Sparkling! Clear! Sonorous! Magnificent! Excellence @ its very pinnacle and sheerest brilliance!!!!
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TheJbach 1 year ago
I wouldn't have a problem with seeing this done again.
daSaboriGuitars 1 year ago
Right Taktstock!
oerangoetan 1 year ago
what's impressive about this is that the individual sections of strings sounds not like that many people playing mahler but one player playing mahler.
ShErR969 1 year ago 2
This is great! Lovely phrasing, perfect intonation, and wonderful enthusiasm in the orchestra. Great job!
coolbeanjm 1 year ago
my street is named after him. Great music and componist
dragongame2 1 year ago
great , but too bad about the skip at 3:10.. a re-upload (albeit 2 years over time) might help solve this problem
firebreathone3 1 year ago
Very very rustic, like it!
Haeronthegreat 1 year ago
delicious
tueslabelledujour 1 year ago
I don't know what it is... but I get happy just at the sight of Mariss Jansons.
clairannette 1 year ago 2
Grande Mahler !!!
Quem pode superá-lo na disciplina, compondo perfeitamente o elo entre o humano e o divino? O Titã, é verdadeiramente a ilustração cênica-musical da ' história' , da chegada das luzes para os humanos,só contada nos mitos.
ZemArte 1 year ago
thank god most conductors dont have a metronome fetish like some..
Would be a boring world lol
quinto34 1 year ago
I hope the people of Amsterdam realize how very fortunate they are!
brandon71085 1 year ago 4
Brilliant, much better performed than my Youth orchestra managed on the 2 occasions we performed it.
SurreyViolinHero 2 years ago
I love this song :) My band is playing it for performance evaluation :)
Jillian1105 2 years ago
mooooooooiiiii
duesselalster 2 years ago
Perfect tempo.. to favorites w/this one...
culturehorse 2 years ago
It's on Dam square
GustavMahlerHorn 2 years ago
Thanks for uploading!
This recording is very good and of course, performance is very good.
I realize again that Concertgebouw is the best orchestra from Mengelberg.
Amigomr2 2 years ago 3
it's a a concert outside somewhere in Amsterdam
at the Uitmarkt!
Ebel
dagobert50 2 years ago
Does anyone have any idea when and where this was taken? Clearly it's not in the Concergebouw.
[And if you think this is slow listen to the start of Dudamel's reading of this moveoemnt, also on you tube.]
koonafoony 2 years ago
Heard this on an episode of Star Trek Voyager-Counterpoints. Immediately fell in love with it and had to find it. Beautiful!
LordBrome 2 years ago 12
Hello, just had to rewind DVR several times to get
Captain Janeway mention Mahler 1st symphony 2nd Movement. I finally found this. Nice to know I was'nt the only one.
VolitionPrime 2 years ago 3
hey, so did i !!
778918 2 years ago
ביצוע לא מרשים כל כך.... אני הייתי לוקח את זה קצת יותר מהר, זה יהפוך את זה למעניין יותר
bogiman14 2 years ago
Lovely playing, but perhaps a rather stately tempo for this movement?!?
tolljames 2 years ago
i actually thought that too
when i heard the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra play it
i thought....wow...this is either really fast, or Concertgebouw decided to take it slow....
intrepidgalaxy 2 years ago 3
The tempo, I think, is OK. Most conductors lead their orchestra to play that fast.
pan2010t 2 years ago 2
Concertgebouw is known for taking things slower and really bringing out the harmonic musicality... and so is Jansons.
irenicflutist 2 years ago 5
Jansons understands it as a peasant, rural dance. THats right, Mahler titled it as "Ländler", a dance for the countrymen.
For this reason it has to be heavy and cant be taken faster than this if you want to create that character.
I think its perfect.
Taktstock1 2 years ago 18
It's only the trio that is a Laendler. I agree with the others who find this tempo too slow. Check Mahler's metronome mark.
elindholm 2 years ago
@Taktstock1 Yes, it is a landler, but one could easily justify a faster performance. In Mahler's own program, this movement's subtitle was "at full sail." I've never sailed, but I sure can imagine the sheer rush of exhilaration that takes over when the wind is strong and is pushing the boat effortlessly through the water. To me, that image isn't compatible with a slow comfortable tempo! Furthermore, the harmonic pacing of this movement is so slow that it will feel "heavy" enough at any tempo.
opuspocus5553 1 year ago
@Taktstock1 The minuet of Beethoven's 1st symphony and the Chopin waltzes would sound absolutely ridiculous if their tempos were only set according to the dances they originated from
opuspocus5553 1 year ago
overweldigend!
Andreconductor 3 years ago
Es ir al cielo y volver. Gracias
Alfonsina923 3 years ago
Are you sure this is Mahler?
cyliu0413 3 years ago
yes
bordaz1 3 years ago 4
yes
jarabass 2 years ago 2
yes
darnthatdream 2 years ago
nice!!!(:
AVALOS365 3 years ago
is this the whole piece? I need it for a class, and I have never heard it, so i don't want to add just half..
trumpettgirl 3 years ago
this is only the second movement
andrevdbc 3 years ago
Q GRANDES!!!!!
mijaaurinegro 3 years ago
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You sound like a big fan. I thought you might like to know and propably already know that gramophone voted the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra as the worlds greatest orchestra.
Also, this christmas, on the 25th, there will be a live internet broadcast of them, done by MonteVerdi. Check out:
M O N T E V E R D I . T V / R C O
for some exclusive content and info.
Kind regards,
Willem
Willemklassiek 3 years ago
Wow~~!!
What an event~!!
parkthoven 3 years ago 6
This has been flagged as spam show
You sound like a big fan. I thought you might like to know and propably already know that gramophone voted the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra as the worlds greatest orchestra.
Also, this christmas, on the 25th, there will be a live internet broadcast of them, done by MonteVerdi. Check out:
M O N T E V E R D I . T V / R C O
for some exclusive content and info.
Kind regards,
Willem
Willemklassiek 3 years ago
OMG, Mahler on Open-air Concert, That's great!
hornplayer84 3 years ago 7