@FratelloPietroPaolo Fratelli in Cristo... We are not under the full jurisdiction of the Holy Roman Church... We have our own Patriarch/Papa, and that is His Beatitude, the Most Reverend Archbishop Craig W. Bates... WE just need a Papa for order and not to spite the Catholic Church! We respect His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI and the other Patriarchs of the Church!
We are a Communion of Convergence Christians! We are Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant/Reformed!
@Zitzzzzz I am born again, Southern Baptist (thus an Orthodox Christian), I see that you are not part of the disgusting liberal Episcopal church (the very one 'Bishop' Gene Robinson is a part of), praise God for that. What is your view on women in ministry (I support it in light of Romans 16, as long as they are Biblicaly Orthodox)? What is your view on absolution?
@FratelloPietroPaolo YES FRATELLI IN CRISTO!: Mission Church in Milan c/o Irynne Arriola Piazzale Accursio, 4 Milan Italy 20155 Telephone No. +(39)328 222 449 The Mission Church of St. Mark - Venice Italy Coordinator: Mr. Angel Francisco Campo San Vio 30123 Venice, Italy Tel. No. +(39) 320 3478 442 The Very Rev. John Donn Bautista , Missionary Priest
If we use the Music o the Gregorian chant, Israelite music, or Contemporary music in worship, that REALLY DOESN'T MATTER! WHAT MATTERS MOST IS A HEART OPEN TO WORSHIP GOD!
IF THE EARLY CHURCH DARED TO USE TH CULTURE OF HER TIME W/O COMPROMISING THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL (AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR) WHY NOT DO THE SAME THING IN TODAYS SOCIETY?
MUSIC IS PART OF HUMAN CREATIVITY! AND HUMANITY IS MADE IN THE VERY IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD!
Using secular music with sacred words appears to try and lure secular progressives into religious compliance with semi-rock tunes and rhythms....If they have the spirit, they don't need GIMMICKS to keep their attention....
@Mackaronni : If we use the Music of the Gregorian chant, Israelite music, or Contemporary music in worship, that REALLY DOESN'T MATTER! WHAT MATTERS MOST IS A HEART OPEN TO WORSHIP GOD!
IF THE EARLY CHURCH DARED TO USE TH CULTURE OF HER TIME W/O COMPROMISING THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL (AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR) WHY NOT DO THE SAME THING IN TODAYS SOCIETY?
MUSIC IS PART OF HUMAN CREATIVITY! AND HUMANITY IS MADE IN THE VERY IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD!
LET US RECLAIM THE ARTS FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD! JUST LIKE WHAT THE EARLY CHURCH DID IN HER TIME! Let us use it to SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF OUR BLESSED LORD!
@Zitzzzzz At our High Holiday liturgies, you'll always see Davidic dancing. This is how we are different from the greater SBC churches, as Jew's we dance.
Yes... We were established right after the Sad DIVISIONS that had occurred in the CHURCH OF CHRIST...
But we our Communion was started because of the Hunger for Christian Understanding, Dialogue, and most especially, RECONCILIATION...
We are a Communion that is working on, with the other Convergence Christians, in UNDERSTANDING THE TRADITIONS OF THE EARLY CHURCH, THE MEDIEVAL CHURCH, AND THE CHURCH OF THE REFORMATION...
...(BOTH THE COUNCIL OF TRENT AND PROTESTANT REFORMATION). WORKING TO CONVERGE THE TRADITIONS OF THIS CHRISTIAN COMMUNIONS (LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE MONASTIC COMMUNITY OF TAIZE) SO THAT WE MAY BE A VISIBLE SIGN THAT CHRISTIAN RECONCILIATION IS POSSIBLE, UNDERSTANDING AND LIVING OUT THE RICH CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS OF THE ORTHODOX, CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT COMMUNIONS...
My apologies, I got a bit overzealous. So why if your church is so close to the Catholic Church- don't you become Catholic. It is accurate to say your church came into existance AFTER Catholicism, right?
This is just wrong. What MAN created this Sect? Sects are too proud to see the error in splitting with The One True Church: your mother! May the Lord change your hearts and lead you home by way of grace and much much study.
@jskansga With all due respect sir, WE ARE HOME! WE ARE A CONVERGENCE CHURCH! WE RESPECT HIS HOLINESS, THE PATRIARCH OF ROME AND THE OTHER ANCIENT PATRIARCHS OF THE ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH! WE EXIST NOT TO SPLIT THE CHURCH, BUT TO UNDERSTAND AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CHURCH'S RICH TRADITIONS THAT ARE PRESENT IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX AND PROTESTANT COMMUNIONS!
BEFORE JUDGING US OF PRIDE, KINDLY KNOW MORE ABOUT US FIRST! THATS A HEALTHY WAY OF ECUMENICAL DIALOGUE!
THE BISHOPS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IN MY COUNTRY (THE PHILIPPINES) ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CHURCH!
SO INSTEAD OF JUDGING US OF HERESY AND BEING "MAN-MADE", PLEASE DO LISTEN TO US FIRST! RATHER THAN PASSING A JUDGEMENT THAT EVEN HIS HOLINESS NOR OUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WILL NEVER DO!
WE ARE AN INTERNATIONAL COMMUNION OF CHURCHES IN A JOURNEY TOWARDS CHRISTIAN RECONCILIATION!
WHEN THE CHURCHES OF ROME AND CONSTANTINOPLE (PLUS THE OTHER EASTERN/ORIENTAL CHURCHES) AND THE PROTESTANT COMMUNIONS WILL BE RECONCILED AGAIN, THEN WE CAN CEASE TO EXIST AS A COMMUNION!
The Difference w/ Christianity and other religions is that it was GOD HIMSELF, IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD that revealed HIMSELF and SAVED US from our HARDNESS OF OUR HEARTS w/ HIS OMNIPOTENT LOVE!
Besides, taught that you have already BRUSHED YOU'RE FEET AT ME? I only listen TO JESUS CHRIST nad the FULLNESS OF HIS WORDS Revealed to us in the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS! We (you and i) may have our "own interpretation" of it... But if we study it, together w/ THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVEN TO THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST, THE CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX AND PROTESTANT STREAMS...
It's a Convergence Church... The Traditions of the Orthodox, Catholic (Or Latin), and Protestant (Evangelical, Pentecostal, Congregational, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc.) Communions of the One Holy Catholic (Universal) and Apostolic Church of JESUS CHRIST is Intertwined!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look into my movies. Search google for "orthodox sundays food eternal life" and read 3rd result, on Sundays Orthodox Church gives you food for eternal life.I
Only Church in Bible not Orthodox today is church of Rome. All other Churches in Bible like Ephes, Antioch, Corinth, Church of Jerusalem established by apostles on Pentecost day are today Orthodox. Orthodox Church gives you on Sunday food for eternal life.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
WE DID HAVE A CRISIS WITH IN THE CHURCH LAST 2006 (JUST AS THE EASTERN AND WESTERN CHURCH HAD IT'S OWN CRISIS IN 1054 AD AND THE CRISIS WITH IN THE HOLY ROMAN CHURCH W/ THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION)
BUT GOD IS CONTINUING TO MOVE AND HEAL US AS A COMMUNION!
Are you suggesting that all charismatic churches practice "snake handling" ? Because only a very small minority in the states do that . Let me know if this church does that. I come from an Evangelical Charismatic Church here in England and its great :) .
plan09, I'm afraid you have a misunderstanding of charismatic churches. In fact, most charismatics, including myself, regard snake handlers as a cult.
OH MY GOODNESS! I WAS JUST ON THIS CHURCHES SITE NO 5 MINS AGO! THIS IS A SIGN! I KNOW IT IS! I have been considering the CEC for sometime now but the nearest Church is an hour away and I feel this is where I should be! I just need a place where I can grow spiritually and still honor tradition which this Communion has! I know God is leading me as I have been reflecting on my life and behavior and things need to change! Thank you so so much! BTW, the song is wonderful! What is it? Thanks!
What song is playing, I love it!
Menechem 8 months ago
@FratelloPietroPaolo Fratelli in Cristo... We are not under the full jurisdiction of the Holy Roman Church... We have our own Patriarch/Papa, and that is His Beatitude, the Most Reverend Archbishop Craig W. Bates... WE just need a Papa for order and not to spite the Catholic Church! We respect His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI and the other Patriarchs of the Church!
We are a Communion of Convergence Christians! We are Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant/Reformed!
Zitzzzzz 8 months ago
@Zitzzzzz I am born again, Southern Baptist (thus an Orthodox Christian), I see that you are not part of the disgusting liberal Episcopal church (the very one 'Bishop' Gene Robinson is a part of), praise God for that. What is your view on women in ministry (I support it in light of Romans 16, as long as they are Biblicaly Orthodox)? What is your view on absolution?
Menechem 8 months ago
Zitzzzzz 9 months ago
LET US RECLAIM THE ARTS FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD! JUST LIKE WHAT THE EARLY CHURCH DID IN HER TIME!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
If we use the Music o the Gregorian chant, Israelite music, or Contemporary music in worship, that REALLY DOESN'T MATTER! WHAT MATTERS MOST IS A HEART OPEN TO WORSHIP GOD!
IF THE EARLY CHURCH DARED TO USE TH CULTURE OF HER TIME W/O COMPROMISING THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL (AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR) WHY NOT DO THE SAME THING IN TODAYS SOCIETY?
MUSIC IS PART OF HUMAN CREATIVITY! AND HUMANITY IS MADE IN THE VERY IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD!
LET US RECLAIM THE ARTS...
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
Using secular music with sacred words appears to try and lure secular progressives into religious compliance with semi-rock tunes and rhythms....If they have the spirit, they don't need GIMMICKS to keep their attention....
Mackaronni 1 year ago
@Mackaronni : If we use the Music of the Gregorian chant, Israelite music, or Contemporary music in worship, that REALLY DOESN'T MATTER! WHAT MATTERS MOST IS A HEART OPEN TO WORSHIP GOD!
IF THE EARLY CHURCH DARED TO USE TH CULTURE OF HER TIME W/O COMPROMISING THE HEART OF THE GOSPEL (AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR) WHY NOT DO THE SAME THING IN TODAYS SOCIETY?
MUSIC IS PART OF HUMAN CREATIVITY! AND HUMANITY IS MADE IN THE VERY IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
LET US RECLAIM THE ARTS FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD! JUST LIKE WHAT THE EARLY CHURCH DID IN HER TIME! Let us use it to SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF OUR BLESSED LORD!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago 2
@Zitzzzzz At our High Holiday liturgies, you'll always see Davidic dancing. This is how we are different from the greater SBC churches, as Jew's we dance.
Menechem 5 months ago
@Zitzzzz
I appreciate you taking the time to inform me. May the Lord guide and bless you.
jskansga 1 year ago
And don't say it's because your members don't agree with all the Catholic traditions. That would be pride- and assuming to know the mind of God...
jskansga 1 year ago
@jskansga :
We're in the process of Ecumenical Dialogue...
Yes... We were established right after the Sad DIVISIONS that had occurred in the CHURCH OF CHRIST...
But we our Communion was started because of the Hunger for Christian Understanding, Dialogue, and most especially, RECONCILIATION...
We are a Communion that is working on, with the other Convergence Christians, in UNDERSTANDING THE TRADITIONS OF THE EARLY CHURCH, THE MEDIEVAL CHURCH, AND THE CHURCH OF THE REFORMATION...
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga :
...(BOTH THE COUNCIL OF TRENT AND PROTESTANT REFORMATION). WORKING TO CONVERGE THE TRADITIONS OF THIS CHRISTIAN COMMUNIONS (LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE MONASTIC COMMUNITY OF TAIZE) SO THAT WE MAY BE A VISIBLE SIGN THAT CHRISTIAN RECONCILIATION IS POSSIBLE, UNDERSTANDING AND LIVING OUT THE RICH CHRISTIAN TRADITIONS OF THE ORTHODOX, CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT COMMUNIONS...
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga :
We want to be part, not only of the Roman Catholic Communion, but also with the Eastern Orthodox and the Protestant Communions as well...
We WANT TO SEE THIS THREE GREAT COMMUNIONS BE RECONCILED WITH EACH OTHER AND MANIFEST THE FULLNESS THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga :
did you know that our Church started because of the OPERATION RESCUE campaigns in the 1980's that were done to STOP THE CRIME OF ABORTION?
Our Communion is one with the HOLY ROMAN CHURCH IN DECLARING THAT ALL LIFE IS SACRED! FROM IT'S NATURAL CONCEPTION TO IT'S END!
WE ADHERE TO THE PAPAL ENCYCLICALS CASTI CONUBII, HUMANAE VITAE, AND EVANGELIUM VITAE!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga :
WE AGREE UPON ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT THE HOLY ROMAN CHURCH TEACHES! EXCEPT FOR THE FOLLOWING:
MANDATORY PRIESTLY CELIBACY AND PURGATORY...
BUT WE DON'T JUDGE IT AS WRONG...
WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT FIRST BEFORE ACCEPTING IT AS PART OF OUR FAITH!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@Zitzzzzz
My apologies, I got a bit overzealous. So why if your church is so close to the Catholic Church- don't you become Catholic. It is accurate to say your church came into existance AFTER Catholicism, right?
jskansga 1 year ago
This is just wrong. What MAN created this Sect? Sects are too proud to see the error in splitting with The One True Church: your mother! May the Lord change your hearts and lead you home by way of grace and much much study.
jskansga 1 year ago
@jskansga With all due respect sir, WE ARE HOME! WE ARE A CONVERGENCE CHURCH! WE RESPECT HIS HOLINESS, THE PATRIARCH OF ROME AND THE OTHER ANCIENT PATRIARCHS OF THE ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH! WE EXIST NOT TO SPLIT THE CHURCH, BUT TO UNDERSTAND AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CHURCH'S RICH TRADITIONS THAT ARE PRESENT IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX AND PROTESTANT COMMUNIONS!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga
WE ARE NOT "PROUD" ABOUT THE SAD DIVISIONS THAT HAVE SPLIT THE CHURCH OF CHRIST!
WE ARE NOT A SPLINTER GROUP AND WE RESPECT (AND ARE WORKING) WITH THE BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC AND ORTHODOX CHURCHES!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga:
BEFORE JUDGING US OF PRIDE, KINDLY KNOW MORE ABOUT US FIRST! THATS A HEALTHY WAY OF ECUMENICAL DIALOGUE!
THE BISHOPS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IN MY COUNTRY (THE PHILIPPINES) ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR CHURCH!
SO INSTEAD OF JUDGING US OF HERESY AND BEING "MAN-MADE", PLEASE DO LISTEN TO US FIRST! RATHER THAN PASSING A JUDGEMENT THAT EVEN HIS HOLINESS NOR OUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY WILL NEVER DO!
DEUS CARITAS EST! DOMINUS EST VOBISCUM!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
@jskansga
O... AND BY THE WAY... WE ARE NOT A "SECT"...
WE ARE AN INTERNATIONAL COMMUNION OF CHURCHES IN A JOURNEY TOWARDS CHRISTIAN RECONCILIATION!
WHEN THE CHURCHES OF ROME AND CONSTANTINOPLE (PLUS THE OTHER EASTERN/ORIENTAL CHURCHES) AND THE PROTESTANT COMMUNIONS WILL BE RECONCILED AGAIN, THEN WE CAN CEASE TO EXIST AS A COMMUNION!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
This video makes me happy,i love spirit filled churches Pentecostal or Charismatic ;)
MessiahJesusisLord 1 year ago
I like this song....what's the name of it?
iloveamerica007 1 year ago
@iloveamerica007
Thy Mercy
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
See. they have their hands up in the air....as to say, "Pick me Jesus! I have all the answers!"
choirboyfromhell1 2 years ago 2
This is very dangerous.How can you mix Truth with a lie and expect to be of Christ.
You can not serve to masters.
Adonimos 2 years ago
Is it a lie to declare that Christians should be and must be united?:
Psalm 133
Zitzzzzz 2 years ago
Its a lie?
Who is controling your mouth?
Does not Christ pray that we all be one, as He and the Father are one?
Did Christ work alone?
Its clear you serve your ego and PRETEND to call it christ!
Keep your PLASTIC INTERPRETATIONS!
I dont follow one mans ego, that is the root of the falseness you spread and believe!
Like i said you can not serve two masters.
I brush my feet of you.
BYE
Adonimos 2 years ago
United in Truth alone!
Adonimos 2 years ago
Whom do we serve: Christ, and Christ ALONE!
Zitzzzzz 2 years ago
We must be united in Truth!
Not what ever one thinks.
Why stop there? What about the mormons, jw, and muslims, hindus ect ect ect.
Whats the difference?
Adonimos 2 years ago
The Difference w/ Christianity and other religions is that it was GOD HIMSELF, IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD that revealed HIMSELF and SAVED US from our HARDNESS OF OUR HEARTS w/ HIS OMNIPOTENT LOVE!
Zitzzzzz 2 years ago
Besides, taught that you have already BRUSHED YOU'RE FEET AT ME? I only listen TO JESUS CHRIST nad the FULLNESS OF HIS WORDS Revealed to us in the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS! We (you and i) may have our "own interpretation" of it... But if we study it, together w/ THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVEN TO THE DIFFERENT BRANCHES OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST, THE CATHOLIC, ORTHODOX AND PROTESTANT STREAMS...
Zitzzzzz 2 years ago
This is the Novus Ordo Vatican II religion taking root.
wjweigand 2 years ago
this church is PROTESTANT?
tupipataxo 2 years ago 2
It's a Convergence Church... The Traditions of the Orthodox, Catholic (Or Latin), and Protestant (Evangelical, Pentecostal, Congregational, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican, Baptist, Presbyterian, etc.) Communions of the One Holy Catholic (Universal) and Apostolic Church of JESUS CHRIST is Intertwined!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zitzzzzz 2 years ago
Look into my movies. Search google for "orthodox sundays food eternal life" and read 3rd result, on Sundays Orthodox Church gives you food for eternal life.I
IoanRomania09 2 years ago 2
Only Church in Bible not Orthodox today is church of Rome. All other Churches in Bible like Ephes, Antioch, Corinth, Church of Jerusalem established by apostles on Pentecost day are today Orthodox. Orthodox Church gives you on Sunday food for eternal life.
IoanRomania09 2 years ago 2
How wonderful - thanks for posting. A blessing to those wishing to worship in spirit and truth.
tsmithers 2 years ago 2
Get thee behind me Satan!
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
yendelwendal 3 years ago
Thank you for posting. How spiritual and uplifting.
tsmithers 3 years ago
CULT! CULT! RUN AWAY!
These are BAD people! Been there - done that.
stillinchina 3 years ago
@stillinchina
really?
how so?>
iloveamerica007 1 year ago
@iloveamerica007 take a hard look at the strange twist they take on apostolic succession. there is a reason why this group has been falling apart...
stillinchina 1 year ago
@stillinchina
enlighten me on it please
i didnt even know they ar falling apart
i dont see why people should leave because of apostolic succession....all that matters is that God is being acknowledged
and worshipped
iloveamerica007 1 year ago
@iloveamerica007 no, people leave because the clergy is abusive.
stillinchina 1 year ago
@stillinchina
abusive how?
you are being a bit scanty on the information
iloveamerica007 1 year ago
@iloveamerica007
WE DID HAVE A CRISIS WITH IN THE CHURCH LAST 2006 (JUST AS THE EASTERN AND WESTERN CHURCH HAD IT'S OWN CRISIS IN 1054 AD AND THE CRISIS WITH IN THE HOLY ROMAN CHURCH W/ THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION)
BUT GOD IS CONTINUING TO MOVE AND HEAL US AS A COMMUNION!
Zitzzzzz 1 year ago
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stillinchina 1 year ago
Orthodox?
gilbertobesanko 3 years ago
What do you mean by that my dear brother (or sister) in Christ?
Zitzzzzz 3 years ago
Are ladies requested to remove their gloves prior to passing the rattlesnake in a charismatic Episcopal church?
plan09 3 years ago
Are you suggesting that all charismatic churches practice "snake handling" ? Because only a very small minority in the states do that . Let me know if this church does that. I come from an Evangelical Charismatic Church here in England and its great :) .
PaladinMark 3 years ago
you are mistaken, they do not handle snakes.
boomac62 3 years ago
plan09, I'm afraid you have a misunderstanding of charismatic churches. In fact, most charismatics, including myself, regard snake handlers as a cult.
josuabrown 3 years ago
OH MY GOODNESS! I WAS JUST ON THIS CHURCHES SITE NO 5 MINS AGO! THIS IS A SIGN! I KNOW IT IS! I have been considering the CEC for sometime now but the nearest Church is an hour away and I feel this is where I should be! I just need a place where I can grow spiritually and still honor tradition which this Communion has! I know God is leading me as I have been reflecting on my life and behavior and things need to change! Thank you so so much! BTW, the song is wonderful! What is it? Thanks!
Sohaila95 3 years ago