I own several version of Evita soundtracks and I have to say that Madonna is my preferred Eva. She isn't as screechy as LuPone or as good-girl sounding as Julie Covington. But she could still use a little more power to her voice.
@emlodik Really? Hmmm... I've always thought Parker imbibed every moment with action and intention that existed beyond the music. I feel the same way about The Wall and Fame. He knows so well how to create drama onscreen.
I wish they would have used someone who had a powerful voice like Patti. To me the way Madonna sings this just does not do this song justice... or any of the other songs.
@abb9211 The movie version of this songs must to be soft, a little loud-less. You are watching a movie not seeing a broadway performance. If in the movie I hear the Patti LuPone's screams, I go crazy!!
Fuck you all !!! Madonna wanted it and she got it !!! And yes mother fuckers She can sing and very well !!!! She killed it !!!! Golden Globe !!!!! Suck on that :)
No other actress could have guaranteed the financial backing for this movie at the time. Madonna was so right for this part in many ways but vocally she under sings the role - which is a surprise and disappointment. It's all a bit soft and tender when there needs to be aggression and bite!
@Dianaemanuel I disagree about her vocal style. I think she sings it quite strongly. The intonation, pitch, timing, her overall interpretation of it is brilliant. In fact, she underwent voice lessons for this role and it improved her voice immeasurably, as is evident in her CDs released after she made Evita.
Madona is a Cow and the only reason this is so popular is because of Madonna. They did not portray Evita properly. Evita was good to herself and she's missing tons of jewelery. My mother was friends with Evita :)
Okay so Madonna has a wonderful voice, but she's missing the emotion of this song. Needs more determination for sure. Patti goes fucking bonkers, take a tip guuurl. However, I love the way she says "that's" after the key change at 1:23.
i hate all the negativity. madonna did a fabulous job in this role. she looked the part and sang/acted it very well. believe me i love patti lupone too. patti took on the role of eva peron more powerful while madonna was more quiet. they both had different takes on the part but they were both fantastic! bravo!
i think evita was just trying to make argentina look good, the only problem was that she was did so much so quickly they beleived in her and relied on her, so when she died they lost there beleife and everything went out of hand... :(
The real Eva actually wanted to put "Queen" in front of her name in all of her posters, pics etc. but at the time it was against the law. Woman stop worrying about what u put on you're anorexic butt and worry about how the hell u r gonna keep Musolinni out of the country. FIX UR COUNTRY AND THEN FIX UR WARDROBE!
ThePeeper1968...Madonna's voice is absolutely BEAUTIFUL in Evita...It's one of the reasons why she won a Golden Globe for her roll in Evita.
You cannot compare Elaine to Madonna...not only is Madonna the world's best female entertainer EVER...she also looked EXACTLY like Eva Peron.
In fact, Madonna wanted to sing Don't Cry For Me Argentina on the original balcony, the President of Argentina said no UNTIL he met her and he was STUNNED at how Madonna looked like Eva Peron
ok i need opinions from people with taste. (anyone who is watching an andrew lloyd webber video on youtube) for my final should i sing this or I Don't Know How To Love Him? (I'm a soprano but have a huge range)
Madonna and Evita are... so... incredibly alike in so many ways. Madonna was born 6 years after Evita died. Many people will think me crazy, but I think... that Madonna is the reincarnation of Evita.
I actually think Madonna is a fine choice for Evita... my real problem is what they do IN the movie. They take out so many of the lyrics that indicate what a disaster Eva and Peron were for Argentina... and they try to make this woman out as a hero and sympathetic when she's so unsympathetic in the actual musical.
I would interpret this song, if placed on its own, very differently. The way the chorus sings 'Eyes, hair, mouth, figure, dress, voice, style, movement, hands, magic, rings, glamour, face, diamonds, excitement, image,' doesn't evoke dolling Eva Peron up. It instead evokes to me thoughts of machinery. The rhythmic way it is sung suggests a mechanical tone in dressing rather than fluidity. Of course, that's just my interpretation.
This was lowered and she STILL can't sing it right. I hate Madonna's singing. Her technique is god-awful. Thank goodness the rest of the people in the movie have talent and that it's visually well done.
@hotelmario510 Everyone has a right to an opinion, but there's no need to put a negative comment on here, when this page is for her music. If you don't like it, don't listen to it because we don't care if you like it or not.
The audio in this video is screwed up. In the actual film/soundtrack it's in a lower key. This video makes it sound like she's singing higher than she actually did.
When you think of it, don't all the current politicians have a bit of Evita in them? Ambition knows no bounds. Some have fewer scruples, some are more inept, but some are better at fooling the public.
(please don't name names).
All are liked or disliked depending on the voters' mindset of what is good for them, not the country, not others, but how do THEY benefit???
I wish I could be 'María Eva Duarte de Perón' affectionately known as 'Evita'. Helping the poor, taking from the rich. Fantastic woman and worthy of being a saint.
hey twilit, thats a great question which i never really thought about even though i've seen this film about 100 times. the answer requires knowledge of philosophy or psychology (which i dont have) and appears to be related to deceit or cunning, perhaps used in this scene by eva to express her need to look larger than life and fantastically rich which while she was in a sense she also wasn't. it's a great question that could require a thesis to know why rice/webber chose the reference.
@broadwayloverny10 so, why are you watching and commenting on this particular clip? Snobs like you never cease to amaze me. If you think Patti is so much greater and better than Madonna, wouldn't it make better sense to just go to a clip of Patti Lupone singing this and commenting on it instead of this one?
hey @eiknujcisuma - right on! no question hands down find the motion picture more entertaining, fascinating and interesting than the stage production btw, any and all hard core evita the motion picture fans must get a hold of the november 1996 issue of vanity fair and read the madonna diaries. besides a great photo spread, it is madonna's first person account of her quest to secure permission from the argentine govt to use the real casa rosada for the film.
@eiknujcisumahey@eiknujcisuma - right on! no question hands down find the motion picture more entertaining, fascinating and interesting than the stage production btw, any and all hard core evita the motion picture fans must get a hold of the november 1996 issue of vanity fair and read the madonna diaries. besides a great photo spread, it is madonna's first person account of her quest to secure permission from the argentine govt to use the real casa rosada for the film.
@broadwayloverny10 so, why are you watching and commenting on this particular clip? Snobs like you never cease to amaze me. If you think Patti is so much greater and better than Madonna, wouldn't it make better sense to just go to a clip of Patti Lupone singing this and commenting on it instead of this one?
@eiknujcisuma Well look at Patti's and you get some of the same comments, although more of them are not as bad you still get the insulting comments. That how youtube is deal with it. I did comment on Patti's, and there are many people who are commenting the same way on this vid so why take it out on me? I'm not a snob, do you understand that definition? One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people.
Eva Person was a whore, well documented for sleeping her way to the top. She did not help the poor out of love or concern. She did it to keep herself in power, so she could have 8 fur coats and a jewelry collection said to rival Cleopatra. (This ain't Mothere Theresa we're talking about)
can i just make it clear for all the people who don't seem to know this. Eva Peron hated the rich and the rich only. Not because they were rich, not because they wore expensive clothing and went to fancy parties. She hated them because until she became one of them she was cast aside and belittled and she felt that she deserved better than that. It also makes it very clear in the movie that people from the middle class stopped her from attneding her own fathers funeral. she held a grudge
Thanks for uploading most of this movie stambeccuccio!! It s been ages I saw it, loved it and the music as a teen in spite of normally not liking musicals.
I liked the pre-election, "yes we can" :) change period, the run for elections.. I noticed you cut A new Argentina short, why? Also wasn't there a short wedding scene? anyways, great uploads!!
WOW, Its super cool that computers can EVEN MAKE fake vibrato these days! Seriously Andrew...next time choose your actress based on talent and not fame.
i agree that she should have won an Oscar for her brilliant performance...she wasn't even NOMINATED!!
i mean not only is Madonna amazing as Eva Peron, but she looks just like her!!!
i am glad she did win a Golden Globe though, and she looked absolutely beautiful and stunning on stage when she made her acceptance speech. the dress she was wearing, her hair and make up...
i LOVED Evita...I LOVE YOU MADONNA!! this is one of my favorite songs and scene from Evita...you can tell that her voice lessons REALLY paid off, she sounds amazing !!
@pathwalkerx I understand what you're saying. I'm sorry if I seemed rude to you. But English is my native language and I'm glad I grew up with it. I agree with you on Eva and Peron though.
@pathwalkerx well, but if you're going to type in English, you should get the spelling correct. I've only ever seen it spelled FASCIST. And I've never seen it spelled the way you spelled it. Not trying to be rude. Just trying to point out the spelling.What is your native language?
@pathwalkerx right, they were not Nazis. But they did harbor them. And it's spelled Fascist, not facist. Peronism was a bizarre mix of fascism and socialism. It does not work. I've lived in Argentina, so I know that it doesn't work. I saw that firsthand. Other than that, you are right.
@GoddessofCoruscant if you lived in argentina, I can assume that you can speak spanish? Sabes lo que era el Peronismo en verdad? o preferis el Radicalismo? O el gobierno militar? Sos la oligarquía en el más puro estado.
@GoddessofCoruscant Oh sweetie, Eva did not hate the rich for wearing expensive clothing. U should know this Andromedawhatsyourface or whatever other username you have used throughout your various stages of confusion. she hated them for other reasons, the clothing had absolutely nothing to do with it. Side with the rich all you want but there is also a large portion of the populace who have clashed with them & Eva sided with them. She was also a 1st LADY, did U expect her to dress in rags? LOL.
@GoddessofCoruscant and skillfully. She knew everything that went on and seemed to enjoy putting the daughters of ogliarchs in prisons with prostitutes. And jailing their sons as well. For all that Madame Mao was worse, Evita is just as guilty as Madame Mao in that she instigated and encouraged it.
@TheNuharoo yes, I know about all of it. the only good thing Eva did was get women the vote. But even in doing that she stole the accomplishment from real Argentine feminists. I agree with you. The cons of Evita far outweigh the pros.
I have been blocked from posting in Miketayfan site...LOL, he must really have soft side for this whore. This what I wanted to post:
LMFAO @ you Mike....You accuse me of using a musical as my standard to project my hatred for Eva, yet you use the same soundtrack to draw viewers to make your own judgment on why she was a people person...hypocrite!
@storm915 however, b eing a whore was the least of her problems. The issue was her politics. As for me, I hate no person. I hate poisoned ideologies like Peronism that hurt people, especially people who did nothing to deserve it. Anyone walking away from such ideologies can be a friend of mine. Anyone entangled in these ideologies I want nothing to do with.
Eva had changed a lot at the end of her life indeed. She wore modest but expensive suits and trademark chignon all the time.
She marked her clothes only with one big jewel or nice set of earrings. Personally I think 40 ties styles made her very glamourous. Still she based it on some Hollywood stars like Lana Turner. But when she developed that unique image of hers, she became Evita and got that special aura. She was her own woman. From that point women wanted to copy her ! ;)
@Miketayfan hahaha, changing history does not make it true. No one emulated her, she imitated the "Hollywood Stars" of her days, that is what she strived for all her life...to be a STAR!
@storm915 Deflecting based on hate for Eva Peron won't make it true either ;) Though I always thought I'm still more accurate because I do not take musical as historical source like you do.
BTW where have you been all this time ? LOL!
Yes she did want to be a star. She did that one time, true... but when she found her own style she became a star of her own name: Evita - the poor people's champion.
@evaperonfan Yes, he might be right she emulated Hollywood stars at time and wanted to be a star as well. But my point is she reached finally her own style and stopped being Norma Shearer or Lana Turner wannabe and started beingmply herself, an icon - Evita. That's finding your own style. That's it.
@Miketayfan Hey, real life gets in the way sometimes..but back to Eva, I don't judge her by a musical, it's her actual life I judge her by and not the fairy tale you and others have made of her.
As evaperonfan always ask: why do I hate her..it's comes from a deeper reason other than a musical!
@storm915 I do feel like I wasted my time writing that book about her, but at least it taught me how to research and write, and I'm now writing an alternate history where women would have had more rights, and Evita wouldn't have existed--- so perhaps I didn't waste my time. Besides, I'm not getting many sales anyway. And I've changed my hero- it's Elizabeth I now.
@evaperonfan you did waste your time writing that book. And you're not getting sales b ecause th e musical is far more popular, far more successful, and told the truth, not a whitewash like you did. But at least you've moved on to other projects. I wish you luck in your future career. Forget about Evita, forget about your failed novel.
@storm915 here, here! I've studied Evita for a long time, and the cons far outweigh the pros. People like Miketayfan and evaperonfan do not understand the realities of Peronism. I have two Argentine friends in my hometown that suffered Peronism under their own skins, and they say that Argentina was very rich before the Perons and now they are very poor. Also, I've been blocked from miketayfan's vids. no surprise there.
@storm915 I don't know if too many people realize this, but each time a former actress is somehow able to become a First Lady, they're the worst tyrants. The wife of Chairman Mao was filled with rage, hate, revenge, and her reputation was not good since she was an actress. I wouldn't trust any of them in any governmental position. The reason she was so hated by many was the damage she did to Argentina, poor and wealthy alike.
@TheNuharoo yes, you're right there. Madame Mao was far worse than Evita though. Not that I'm defending Evita, I'm just saying Madame Mao was worse. Madame Mao actually killed people herself, if I'm not mistaken. Evita only ordered people tortured, but her enemies came out alive. Not that torture is ok-- but there's a difference, albeit a small one.
@TheNuharoo and Evita's defenders like to say 'there is no proof.' that she tortured people. However, I have to say that she had to have been blind and dumb if she didn't know what was going on. And if she was the saint her followers make her out to be, she would have done something to stop it. But she didn't-- which speaks volumes about her true character. I've studied Eva for a long time, so I know this,.
I own several version of Evita soundtracks and I have to say that Madonna is my preferred Eva. She isn't as screechy as LuPone or as good-girl sounding as Julie Covington. But she could still use a little more power to her voice.
cmcorrie 4 days ago
I love the ending to this song, "star quality." No truer words spoken for Eva (or M for that matter.)
tfutrell000 5 days ago
she was so great in this scene.
gamblerjag 1 week ago
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Varanoaffair 2 weeks ago
this is brilliant
Frasier2098 2 weeks ago 2
DADDY THE SULTAN OF BRUNAI, YOU SEE ANTONIO BANDERES HE LEFT AND I HAD TO SING FOR ARGENTINA UNTIL HE DECIDED TO BE MY COMPANY.
YEAH BUDDY MY NAME IS EVITA.
bbjuyb87 1 month ago
idk why but i just love this song <3
roxiegirl227 1 month ago
Madonna or no Madonna, Alan Parker's direction is flawless.
jefffreemanpresents 1 month ago
@jefffreemanpresents right on :)
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@jefffreemanpresents If dull as dish water.
emlodik 1 month ago
@emlodik Really? Hmmm... I've always thought Parker imbibed every moment with action and intention that existed beyond the music. I feel the same way about The Wall and Fame. He knows so well how to create drama onscreen.
jefffreemanpresents 1 month ago
I wish they would have used someone who had a powerful voice like Patti. To me the way Madonna sings this just does not do this song justice... or any of the other songs.
abb9211 2 months ago
@abb9211 The movie version of this songs must to be soft, a little loud-less. You are watching a movie not seeing a broadway performance. If in the movie I hear the Patti LuPone's screams, I go crazy!!
papliunmillon 1 week ago
Madonna was perfect for this role. I bet Eva Peron would be proud if she could see it.
bg11215 2 months ago 3
This is the musical we are doing in choir... I know nothing about it .__.
ShadowwAttackk 3 months ago
Fuck you all !!! Madonna wanted it and she got it !!! And yes mother fuckers She can sing and very well !!!! She killed it !!!! Golden Globe !!!!! Suck on that :)
MrTizgo 3 months ago 3
madonna was beautiful in this movie <3 xxxx <3 xxxx
xxfayerocksxx 3 months ago
No other actress could have guaranteed the financial backing for this movie at the time. Madonna was so right for this part in many ways but vocally she under sings the role - which is a surprise and disappointment. It's all a bit soft and tender when there needs to be aggression and bite!
Dianaemanuel 3 months ago 2
@Dianaemanuel I disagree about her vocal style. I think she sings it quite strongly. The intonation, pitch, timing, her overall interpretation of it is brilliant. In fact, she underwent voice lessons for this role and it improved her voice immeasurably, as is evident in her CDs released after she made Evita.
bg11215 2 months ago 7
This is my favourite song from Evita
Luket835 3 months ago 5
agree..
anisete46 4 months ago
Madona is a Cow and the only reason this is so popular is because of Madonna. They did not portray Evita properly. Evita was good to herself and she's missing tons of jewelery. My mother was friends with Evita :)
AdoptMeCanada 4 months ago
Okay so Madonna has a wonderful voice, but she's missing the emotion of this song. Needs more determination for sure. Patti goes fucking bonkers, take a tip guuurl. However, I love the way she says "that's" after the key change at 1:23.
mattyhodg1 4 months ago
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mattyhodg1 4 months ago
i hate all the negativity. madonna did a fabulous job in this role. she looked the part and sang/acted it very well. believe me i love patti lupone too. patti took on the role of eva peron more powerful while madonna was more quiet. they both had different takes on the part but they were both fantastic! bravo!
jetsaguilera 4 months ago
@jetsaguilera I dislike madonna and I still think she did well though her voice is so weak. I wish Ken Russell had made this with Liza.
BrickLaneBetty 4 months ago
If only Madonna could sing.
HikariDragonRyuu 5 months ago
i think evita was just trying to make argentina look good, the only problem was that she was did so much so quickly they beleived in her and relied on her, so when she died they lost there beleife and everything went out of hand... :(
ElysiaJessica123 5 months ago
way to destroy a great broadway musical!
NeuwirthFan 5 months ago
why would you wear fur coats in a hot country
cicada300 5 months ago
madonna's voice has some unique essence :P
00Mj000 5 months ago 12
i love madonna but what is the thing on her head in the beginning?
gnahzanehta 5 months ago
@gnahzanehta Exactly. The lyric should be "let's get this thing off my head" instead of "let's get the show on the road"
Hollywoodsteve 5 months ago
I'm here cause of Lisa :P
chamuel010 6 months ago 3
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wow - she really sucks
THOMKALLOR 6 months ago
The real Eva actually wanted to put "Queen" in front of her name in all of her posters, pics etc. but at the time it was against the law. Woman stop worrying about what u put on you're anorexic butt and worry about how the hell u r gonna keep Musolinni out of the country. FIX UR COUNTRY AND THEN FIX UR WARDROBE!
countrywillneverdie 7 months ago
I prefer Jason Steele singing this song...
SuperCowFilms 7 months ago
This really is the only song I think Madonna does well in this movie. Patti is better, but madonna does well.
JAKEHasArrived 7 months ago
@JAKEHasArrived i second that.
ipodshasta03 7 months ago
Lauren Bacall ! :D
FlaxenHairedBeauty 8 months ago 2
@FlaxenHairedBeauty I, too, love the Lauren Bacall reference. Bacall is such a star!
tfutrell000 5 days ago
ThePeeper1968...Madonna's voice is absolutely BEAUTIFUL in Evita...It's one of the reasons why she won a Golden Globe for her roll in Evita.
You cannot compare Elaine to Madonna...not only is Madonna the world's best female entertainer EVER...she also looked EXACTLY like Eva Peron.
In fact, Madonna wanted to sing Don't Cry For Me Argentina on the original balcony, the President of Argentina said no UNTIL he met her and he was STUNNED at how Madonna looked like Eva Peron
ftlmatt 8 months ago 4
@ftlmatt Madonna has like the default female face. You can never recognize her and she can look like anyone.
Hedning1390 8 months ago
The one and only Queen of Pop!!!!!!!!!!! Her voice is brilliant!!!!!! Her Madgesty!!!! God save the Queen!!
Matuteilcapo 8 months ago
Just visited the musical in Düsseldorf.
xxaweryx 10 months ago
ok i need opinions from people with taste. (anyone who is watching an andrew lloyd webber video on youtube) for my final should i sing this or I Don't Know How To Love Him? (I'm a soprano but have a huge range)
sopranoskier523 10 months ago
Her voice is crap, Elaine was so much better
ThePeeper1968 10 months ago
15 years later and I still know the lines
kryceksangel 10 months ago
@kryceksangel AGREED I watched this first when I was 12. :]
scientifichumanist 10 months ago
Sarah Palin.
emlodik 10 months ago
Madonna and Evita are... so... incredibly alike in so many ways. Madonna was born 6 years after Evita died. Many people will think me crazy, but I think... that Madonna is the reincarnation of Evita.
RuneFactory07 10 months ago
the paintings were specially done for the film and are madonna
pathwalkerx 10 months ago
amo essa cena!! ;D
22lukas 10 months ago
Get you Pearlypops!
rees276 10 months ago
I really like Lisa's version x3
Celestrall 11 months ago
I really like Lisa's version x3
Celestrall 11 months ago
I actually think Madonna is a fine choice for Evita... my real problem is what they do IN the movie. They take out so many of the lyrics that indicate what a disaster Eva and Peron were for Argentina... and they try to make this woman out as a hero and sympathetic when she's so unsympathetic in the actual musical.
UncleMilo 1 year ago
I would interpret this song, if placed on its own, very differently. The way the chorus sings 'Eyes, hair, mouth, figure, dress, voice, style, movement, hands, magic, rings, glamour, face, diamonds, excitement, image,' doesn't evoke dolling Eva Peron up. It instead evokes to me thoughts of machinery. The rhythmic way it is sung suggests a mechanical tone in dressing rather than fluidity. Of course, that's just my interpretation.
hotelmario510 1 year ago
Do you have Rainbow Tour ?
WDI2008 1 year ago
This was lowered and she STILL can't sing it right. I hate Madonna's singing. Her technique is god-awful. Thank goodness the rest of the people in the movie have talent and that it's visually well done.
beatlemaniac487 1 year ago
@beatlemaniac487 Can you sing even half as good? No? Didn't think so. Thank goodness the rest of us don't have to hear it.
CuteIsWhatIAimFor143 1 year ago 2
@CuteIsWhatIAimFor143 He or she has a right to his or her opinion. Leave him or her alone. Don't be a fascist.
hotelmario510 1 year ago
@hotelmario510 Everyone has a right to an opinion, but there's no need to put a negative comment on here, when this page is for her music. If you don't like it, don't listen to it because we don't care if you like it or not.
CuteIsWhatIAimFor143 1 year ago
@CuteIsWhatIAimFor143 How was that a negative comment....?
DifferentGirl3 11 months ago
The audio in this video is screwed up. In the actual film/soundtrack it's in a lower key. This video makes it sound like she's singing higher than she actually did.
EvanOz85 1 year ago 3
@EvanOz85 PAL speedup.
alcockell 1 year ago
Sarah Palin.
HouseOnSunset 1 year ago
Ew. Why didn't they just cast Meryl Streep and have a masterpeice?
TheCherryBomber1 1 year ago
I love this movie. The parts I love best are when they actually show Eva.
JuJuMJFan4life 1 year ago 2
BOOOOOORING. The most exciting and terrifying moment in the show and Madonna screws it up.
ajt141 1 year ago
I love this movie.
I love MADONNA
laHagans 1 year ago 3
When you think of it, don't all the current politicians have a bit of Evita in them? Ambition knows no bounds. Some have fewer scruples, some are more inept, but some are better at fooling the public.
(please don't name names).
All are liked or disliked depending on the voters' mindset of what is good for them, not the country, not others, but how do THEY benefit???
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Cordell1906 1 year ago
I prefer Lisa Simpons "I am their queen" so funny--
ampollapiratas 1 year ago 31
@ampollapiratas Of course, it's a parody...
sergiorencio 4 months ago
I wish I could be 'María Eva Duarte de Perón' affectionately known as 'Evita'. Helping the poor, taking from the rich. Fantastic woman and worthy of being a saint.
brummyneil 1 year ago
my favorite song throughout the whole movie :P
aurora0908 1 year ago
Madonna's voice is amazing in Evita!!
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@thetwilitprincesses
Machiavelli was a 15th/16th century italian philospher he is also thought to be one of the founders of modern politcal theory.
Machiavellian basically means to decieve and manipulate someone for gain.
So i think it was possibly used in relation to the word because the song is describing Eva manipulating the public with her image.
angelstar31 1 year ago
hey twilit, thats a great question which i never really thought about even though i've seen this film about 100 times. the answer requires knowledge of philosophy or psychology (which i dont have) and appears to be related to deceit or cunning, perhaps used in this scene by eva to express her need to look larger than life and fantastically rich which while she was in a sense she also wasn't. it's a great question that could require a thesis to know why rice/webber chose the reference.
soymarcojesus 1 year ago
what does machiavell mean?
thetwilitprincesses 1 year ago
@thetwilitprincesses
Machiavelli was a 15th/16th century italian philospher he is also thought to be one of the founders of modern politcal theory.
Machiavellian basically means to decieve and manipulate someone for gain.
So i think it was possibly used in relation to the word because the song is describing Eva manipulating the public with her image.
angelstar31 1 year ago
CAn her voice be any freaking lighter?!?!? Her freaking voice is to freaking this. Eww I'll take Patti over Madonna ANYDAY!!! My god ew.
broadwayloverny10 1 year ago
@broadwayloverny10 so, why are you watching and commenting on this particular clip? Snobs like you never cease to amaze me. If you think Patti is so much greater and better than Madonna, wouldn't it make better sense to just go to a clip of Patti Lupone singing this and commenting on it instead of this one?
eiknujcisuma 1 year ago
hey @eiknujcisuma - right on! no question hands down find the motion picture more entertaining, fascinating and interesting than the stage production btw, any and all hard core evita the motion picture fans must get a hold of the november 1996 issue of vanity fair and read the madonna diaries. besides a great photo spread, it is madonna's first person account of her quest to secure permission from the argentine govt to use the real casa rosada for the film.
soymarcojesus 1 year ago
@eiknujcisumahey @eiknujcisuma - right on! no question hands down find the motion picture more entertaining, fascinating and interesting than the stage production btw, any and all hard core evita the motion picture fans must get a hold of the november 1996 issue of vanity fair and read the madonna diaries. besides a great photo spread, it is madonna's first person account of her quest to secure permission from the argentine govt to use the real casa rosada for the film.
soymarcojesus 1 year ago
@soymarcojesus yeah! the casa rosada was used, but then this movie was banned here (I'm argentinean)
ferchus01 1 year ago
@broadwayloverny10 so, why are you watching and commenting on this particular clip? Snobs like you never cease to amaze me. If you think Patti is so much greater and better than Madonna, wouldn't it make better sense to just go to a clip of Patti Lupone singing this and commenting on it instead of this one?
eiknujcisuma 1 year ago
@eiknujcisuma Well look at Patti's and you get some of the same comments, although more of them are not as bad you still get the insulting comments. That how youtube is deal with it. I did comment on Patti's, and there are many people who are commenting the same way on this vid so why take it out on me? I'm not a snob, do you understand that definition? One who tends to patronize, rebuff, or ignore people regarded as social inferiors and imitate, admire, or seek association with people.
broadwayloverny10 1 year ago
US descomisados need an evita
qwecjc 1 year ago
Madonna wouldn't have even been a considered under study for Patti Lupone. This movie was horrific.
Jmaybrick2001 1 year ago
@Jmaybrick2001 Patti Lupone was great on stage. I didn't favor Madonna.
However, I think this film and performance are brilliant!
grandmagrumpy 1 year ago 4
patti is the only eva!! madonna sux
Stevo5862 1 year ago
i love this anytym, anyday...
dianeminerva 1 year ago
I prefer this version over Patti's.
WolfTrack 1 year ago
Patti does it with soul and guts. I don't hear that in Madonna.
MsColoradodoc 1 year ago
her eyes are dead!
sabbelmaster 1 year ago
The pitch in this video is way too high. Perhaps to avoid being blocked?
cdp122887 1 year ago
@EZYCHEESY Are you being sarcastic?
Gikl27 1 year ago
The pitch on all these videos is significantly higher than in the original movie. Was that done on purpose? I checked the DVD to make sure.
HelloMrZebra 1 year ago
Awww. she tried to do this song justice and almost succeeded.
Gikl27 1 year ago
Eva Person was a whore, well documented for sleeping her way to the top. She did not help the poor out of love or concern. She did it to keep herself in power, so she could have 8 fur coats and a jewelry collection said to rival Cleopatra. (This ain't Mothere Theresa we're talking about)
brandonichero 1 year ago
can i just make it clear for all the people who don't seem to know this. Eva Peron hated the rich and the rich only. Not because they were rich, not because they wore expensive clothing and went to fancy parties. She hated them because until she became one of them she was cast aside and belittled and she felt that she deserved better than that. It also makes it very clear in the movie that people from the middle class stopped her from attneding her own fathers funeral. she held a grudge
pearlypops 1 year ago
lovely
koujisfreak1 1 year ago
Is the picture at :53 of Madonna or Eva?
MrChillwill1226 1 year ago 6
@MrChillwill1226 I'm not sure.. could be Evita! ;)
stambeccuccio 1 year ago 4
@stambeccuccio well, whoever it is, she's beautiful ;)
MrChillwill1226 1 year ago 13
@MrChillwill1226 ..I agree with you ; )
stambeccuccio 1 year ago
I think its Madona-based on an actual photo of Eva.
newrochellephoenix 1 year ago
@stambeccuccio it is diffo madonna
TheSarahDalton 1 year ago 3
@TheSarahDalton In this movie, Evita and Madonna are very much alike, not only physically and makeup, but also in the path of life ..
In my opinion, the stories of these two figures are very similar in many ways ..
The Evita's life could be the Madonna's life and.. to the contrary.
That is the greatness of this magical Musical and Madonna! ;)
stambeccuccio 1 year ago 28
@stambeccuccio this song is very material girl, very madonna!
MarielitaForever 1 year ago
@stambeccuccio It's madonna
hashkoekie89 1 year ago
@stambeccuccio No way. It's Madonna, clearly.
PONR2006 1 year ago
@stambeccuccio Madonna (The real Evita does not Appear at any point in the movie even in newspaper photos)
pathwalkerx 1 year ago
@pathwalkerx The Paintings Are of Evita not Madonna
Tinckie1 10 months ago
@stambeccuccio It's Madonna
csi3willows 11 months ago
@MrChillwill1226 @.53 it is 100% Madonna, 100% sure.
Thanks for uploading most of this movie stambeccuccio!! It s been ages I saw it, loved it and the music as a teen in spite of normally not liking musicals.
I liked the pre-election, "yes we can" :) change period, the run for elections.. I noticed you cut A new Argentina short, why? Also wasn't there a short wedding scene? anyways, great uploads!!
dinavienna 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 It's Madonna! No eva-picture in this movie is original
ExpressYourself4 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 it's madonnna
TheEdwardRayShow 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 I'm pretty sure it's Madonna
sidwellian2012 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 Madonna! :)
Larification22 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 I think its a image of Madonna redone as from Eva.
newrochellephoenix 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 Its madonna
k3llz67 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 IT'S MADONNA ALRIGHT!!
Ginalight20 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 Madonna
MsHEDONIST 1 year ago
@MrChillwill1226 the portrait looks like the real Eva, the newspaper pic soon afterwards is Madonna. :)
Rosannasfriend 11 months ago
@MrChillwill1226 I think it could be madonna because I think that eva's hair was a shade or two lighter then madonna's
molympia1977 10 months ago
@MrChillwill1226 Madonna
foxxyfierro 10 months ago
@MrChillwill1226 its madonna
swazzybear23 9 months ago
WOW, Its super cool that computers can EVEN MAKE fake vibrato these days! Seriously Andrew...next time choose your actress based on talent and not fame.
MrMusicstone 1 year ago
i agree that she should have won an Oscar for her brilliant performance...she wasn't even NOMINATED!!
i mean not only is Madonna amazing as Eva Peron, but she looks just like her!!!
i am glad she did win a Golden Globe though, and she looked absolutely beautiful and stunning on stage when she made her acceptance speech. the dress she was wearing, her hair and make up...
ftlmatt 1 year ago
Madonna's vocals are both powerful & amazing, she should have won an Oscar but I guess a Golden Globe is pretty good.
TheMadonna1958 1 year ago
i LOVED Evita...I LOVE YOU MADONNA!! this is one of my favorite songs and scene from Evita...you can tell that her voice lessons REALLY paid off, she sounds amazing !!
ftlmatt 1 year ago
this is an awful version of Rainbow High. Go listen to Patti LuPone. She's the real deal!
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
My native language is Greek (Cypriot Dialect)
And English Has no correct spellings in many cases
over the last few centuries the spelling rules have changed several times
For those of us who come to English as a second or third language its down right confusing
Also technically the language of You tube is American English which is even more confused
pathwalkerx 1 year ago
@pathwalkerx I understand what you're saying. I'm sorry if I seemed rude to you. But English is my native language and I'm glad I grew up with it. I agree with you on Eva and Peron though.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
Either spelling is Valid (so is Fachista) there are plenty of spellings (and English is not my language of choice)
pathwalkerx 1 year ago
@pathwalkerx well, but if you're going to type in English, you should get the spelling correct. I've only ever seen it spelled FASCIST. And I've never seen it spelled the way you spelled it. Not trying to be rude. Just trying to point out the spelling.What is your native language?
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
They were NOT Nazis
Peron was a FACIST
The Nazis were basically a bunch of morons without any real guiding beliefs (other than that Germans were Aryan (a term that means IRANIAN))
pathwalkerx 1 year ago
@pathwalkerx right, they were not Nazis. But they did harbor them. And it's spelled Fascist, not facist. Peronism was a bizarre mix of fascism and socialism. It does not work. I've lived in Argentina, so I know that it doesn't work. I saw that firsthand. Other than that, you are right.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
@GoddessofCoruscant if you lived in argentina, I can assume that you can speak spanish? Sabes lo que era el Peronismo en verdad? o preferis el Radicalismo? O el gobierno militar? Sos la oligarquía en el más puro estado.
binardus 1 year ago
Evita dressing herself up like the rich while at the same time condemning them and stealing from them. Hypocricy at its finest!
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
@GoddessofCoruscant Oh sweetie, Eva did not hate the rich for wearing expensive clothing. U should know this Andromedawhatsyourface or whatever other username you have used throughout your various stages of confusion. she hated them for other reasons, the clothing had absolutely nothing to do with it. Side with the rich all you want but there is also a large portion of the populace who have clashed with them & Eva sided with them. She was also a 1st LADY, did U expect her to dress in rags? LOL.
tabugirl 1 year ago 2
Madonna is just beautifull
88raresh 1 year ago
"you either loved her, or hated her"
Taelin11285 1 year ago
@Taelin11285 she fooled the people that loved her.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
@GoddessofCoruscant and skillfully. She knew everything that went on and seemed to enjoy putting the daughters of ogliarchs in prisons with prostitutes. And jailing their sons as well. For all that Madame Mao was worse, Evita is just as guilty as Madame Mao in that she instigated and encouraged it.
TheNuharoo 1 year ago
@TheNuharoo yes, I know about all of it. the only good thing Eva did was get women the vote. But even in doing that she stole the accomplishment from real Argentine feminists. I agree with you. The cons of Evita far outweigh the pros.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
I have been blocked from posting in Miketayfan site...LOL, he must really have soft side for this whore. This what I wanted to post:
LMFAO @ you Mike....You accuse me of using a musical as my standard to project my hatred for Eva, yet you use the same soundtrack to draw viewers to make your own judgment on why she was a people person...hypocrite!
storm915 1 year ago 4
@storm915 he's blocked me too-- don't feel bad about it. Peronists cannot handle differences of opinion.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
@storm915 however, b eing a whore was the least of her problems. The issue was her politics. As for me, I hate no person. I hate poisoned ideologies like Peronism that hurt people, especially people who did nothing to deserve it. Anyone walking away from such ideologies can be a friend of mine. Anyone entangled in these ideologies I want nothing to do with.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
Madonna was a perfect actress in that movie...!
sokoli1988 1 year ago 3
You wanna to be treated nice, great, like queen? Madonna - you just a magic in reality.
Olegserov2 1 year ago
madonna did a good job in playing evita i giv her props
missmadhouse011 1 year ago 4
why didn't my comment show up?
badevita 1 year ago
and Rainbow Tour?
AmuroRei89 1 year ago
@AmuroRei89 it's not on here for some reason.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
you know what? I really hate youtube now. It's not letting me delete my comments. *sigh*
evaperonfan 1 year ago
i love madonna!
elprincipito11 1 year ago
Eva had changed a lot at the end of her life indeed. She wore modest but expensive suits and trademark chignon all the time.
She marked her clothes only with one big jewel or nice set of earrings. Personally I think 40 ties styles made her very glamourous. Still she based it on some Hollywood stars like Lana Turner. But when she developed that unique image of hers, she became Evita and got that special aura. She was her own woman. From that point women wanted to copy her ! ;)
Miketayfan 1 year ago
@Miketayfan hahaha, changing history does not make it true. No one emulated her, she imitated the "Hollywood Stars" of her days, that is what she strived for all her life...to be a STAR!
storm915 1 year ago 4
@storm915 Deflecting based on hate for Eva Peron won't make it true either ;) Though I always thought I'm still more accurate because I do not take musical as historical source like you do.
BTW where have you been all this time ? LOL!
Yes she did want to be a star. She did that one time, true... but when she found her own style she became a star of her own name: Evita - the poor people's champion.
Miketayfan 1 year ago
@Miketayfan I'm afraid he's right about Eva.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@evaperonfan Yes, he might be right she emulated Hollywood stars at time and wanted to be a star as well. But my point is she reached finally her own style and stopped being Norma Shearer or Lana Turner wannabe and started beingmply herself, an icon - Evita. That's finding your own style. That's it.
Miketayfan 1 year ago
@Miketayfan Hey, real life gets in the way sometimes..but back to Eva, I don't judge her by a musical, it's her actual life I judge her by and not the fairy tale you and others have made of her.
As evaperonfan always ask: why do I hate her..it's comes from a deeper reason other than a musical!
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evaperonfan 1 year ago
@storm915 I do feel like I wasted my time writing that book about her, but at least it taught me how to research and write, and I'm now writing an alternate history where women would have had more rights, and Evita wouldn't have existed--- so perhaps I didn't waste my time. Besides, I'm not getting many sales anyway. And I've changed my hero- it's Elizabeth I now.
evaperonfan 1 year ago
@evaperonfan you did waste your time writing that book. And you're not getting sales b ecause th e musical is far more popular, far more successful, and told the truth, not a whitewash like you did. But at least you've moved on to other projects. I wish you luck in your future career. Forget about Evita, forget about your failed novel.
evaperonwasbad 1 year ago 3
@storm915 good for you! Evita haters= good people. Evita lovers= bad people!
badevita 1 year ago
@storm915 here, here! I've studied Evita for a long time, and the cons far outweigh the pros. People like Miketayfan and evaperonfan do not understand the realities of Peronism. I have two Argentine friends in my hometown that suffered Peronism under their own skins, and they say that Argentina was very rich before the Perons and now they are very poor. Also, I've been blocked from miketayfan's vids. no surprise there.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago 2
@storm915 I don't know if too many people realize this, but each time a former actress is somehow able to become a First Lady, they're the worst tyrants. The wife of Chairman Mao was filled with rage, hate, revenge, and her reputation was not good since she was an actress. I wouldn't trust any of them in any governmental position. The reason she was so hated by many was the damage she did to Argentina, poor and wealthy alike.
TheNuharoo 1 year ago
@TheNuharoo yes, you're right there. Madame Mao was far worse than Evita though. Not that I'm defending Evita, I'm just saying Madame Mao was worse. Madame Mao actually killed people herself, if I'm not mistaken. Evita only ordered people tortured, but her enemies came out alive. Not that torture is ok-- but there's a difference, albeit a small one.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago
@TheNuharoo and Evita's defenders like to say 'there is no proof.' that she tortured people. However, I have to say that she had to have been blind and dumb if she didn't know what was going on. And if she was the saint her followers make her out to be, she would have done something to stop it. But she didn't-- which speaks volumes about her true character. I've studied Eva for a long time, so I know this,.
GoddessofCoruscant 1 year ago