I'm lead to believe there were 6 or7 built by Bugatti and one built by some mad bugger in the 80's on a Royale chassis. Could anyone confirm or poo-poo this notion PLEASE.
@selmerthegod . Factory build 6 of Type 41 (Royale). They all still exist, although some were re-bodied. The only replica I know, was built by Schlumpf collection on a remaining factory chassis with Jean Bugatti roadster body ordered originally by an entrepreneur. Esders (roadster was driven only at the daylight and does not have headlights.
You can research this car, It had bad handling and grip, but with a speed of 144mph in 1928 is just astonishing. There were only 6 produced, and they were 500,000$ at the time. It was also the most expensive car sold in auction, in 1980's at 14 million dollars.
Well with the prices 250 GTO's are currently fetching I wouldn't be surprised to see a Royale from a private collection being sold for $25 million or more.
@BlazingRabbit Very true. Ever since the Veyron came out, people have forgotten that Bugatti made luxurious grand tourers (such as this Royale) as well as the odd lightweight sports car.
@edman400 Another kid who thinks they know everything about Bugatti, when all they know about is that the Veyron is the fastest car in the world. How does it look stupid? It was designed in the 1930's dipshit. This car is worth more than a Veyron for a reason; there's only 3 of them, and they were built for royal families. And who are the customers for the Veyron? Simon Cowell and Chris Brown a.k.a PRICKS WITH TOO MUCH CASH.
Two T-41s are original from Bugatti and the third was built by the previous owners of the museum, the Schlumpf brothers, before it was stolen by the French state. The 3rd car was finally finished be Lecoq, the famous French coachbuilder. It is a rebuild of the famous Coupé Esders.
a few minutes ago i saw a video where they drove it on the road... in the parisian rush our traffic!!!! if someone had crashed into it, the insurence would have went bust. and millions of car enthusiasts (including me) would have started to cry rivers and raised a gun to their heads or jumped off a tall building
@chilam1 thats if you could afford to buy it in the first place lol. 30k then is around 30 times more than today. So your looking at around $900,000 in 1930 by todays equivalent.
I live in the town where this museum is, so i've seen the bugattis for real. They also have a bugatti veyron, and the veyron is producedlike 50 km away.
For me the Bugattis are the greatest cars ever built. I hope i'll belong one one day ;).
No idea what you're talking about. Lager? I'll have to look that up. Just a dumb Greek/American. :) But seriously, my username is my real name (Brilliant of me, I know.). The last name is German, but I don't pay much attention to my dad's side, because he's kind of "mixed," whereas my mom is full Greek. Well, there's the award for the most random comment of the year. I need to find more things to do with my spare time. Oy.
Yep, they are. They do look modern, don't they, though? Most wheels in from the 1910's up until the late 1930's were mostly wire wheels. Ettore Bugatti designed the wheels to cool the brakes (which were powered by cables.).
Actually Chris - I have one question to ask you in the meantime - I like my lager - and you apparently 'stock' it as your username suggests.
I swear by my Stella Artois - but what do you recommend, assuming of course that you do stock it or know anything about lager, if not please ignore this question.
These things are so friggin' valuable, but since they're soooo heavy, I bet they could never keep up with a Duesenberg J or SJ. I still would interested to see one of them in motion, though. But now no one drives them, and they seemed to have become shrines.
What I was saying is, I wonder what their power was in comparison to the Duesenberg J's or SJ's. But then I said we'd probably never find out because they aren't "cars" anymore, they're museum pieces. There were only six of them, but why keep them locked up gathering dust instead of them serving their true purpose-- being driven!?
Hmmm... I remember reading about the Duesenberg years ago, it was a German super luxurious supercar from the thirties to rival anything today, apparently the dashboard resembled that of a light aircraft with altometers and barometers etc. and a top speed of over 150mph!
The Duesenberg brothers were German, but the cars were American, since the brothers first came to the U.S. when they were five. The supercharged Duesy had a top speed of about 120 miles-per-hour.
In continuation of the last one....They sold for $20,000, the Bugatti Royales were around $40,000 each, and lastly the most expensive car in the world, in 1928,Isotta-Fraschinies. There are only about six of them in the U.S. Watch "Sunset Boulevard."
Yep, that would be the Mormon Meteor, which is probably the most valuable Duesenberg. The ones after being the two SSJ's. (Ask me if you don't know what those are.) It had probably a little less than 400 horsepower with a new rams-horn manifold that boosted the Duesenberg motor's horsepower even more. Consider the fact that a V8 Cadillac got about 90 horsepower at the least.
No the ordinary Type J could go 120mph,but the SJ (S for supercharged) could go 135-140mph (at least in theory). The Mormon Meteor saw average speeds at over 150mph in 1935. It was reported to have been driven at over 160mph at one point.
For your info a Duesenberg SJ was usually close to 3 tons too and was therefore no lightweight and marginally lighter than the Royale. But Ettore Bugatti's Royale was unrivalled in the comfort area. The 6,9litre straight8 of the Duesey needed revs,wheareas the 12,7litre 8 of the Royale made all its horsepower and torque at very low rpm's because this resulted in a very comfortable and silent ride at high speeds,Bugatti knew. Bugatti had 9 bearings for reliability.
Thanks for the info! So, since the Royales had low RPM's, would they accelerate faster than an SJ? Ah, what a race that would be. Probably would never would happen, 'cause if either crashed, oops; there goes several million dollars.
yeh lucid91 you really know your stuff. I'm an Alfa guy myself I wouldn't trade any more than 4 members of family for this car. After my parents and 2 siblings I'd draw the line.
Maybe this might be the world's most expensive car, but I woulden't buy it for 50,000. Personally I'm into cars that were built RECENTLY. Like in this century.
Some ignorant fool bashed Bugatti's new Veyron and said Bugatti was a name nobody had ever heard of? I pity the fool. Then I told him about the Royale and what one of those are valued today.
The world's greatest car ever made. Most everything when it was built. Designed by Ettore son's Jean. Out of the 6 made only 3 were sold. And only two remains, the rest are not genuine T41. These cars are the most expensive ones ($10M minimum)
the engines were 13 liters and the reason that they were used in locomotives was because Bugatti spent insane amounts of money producing the car, but they released it at the worst possible time ever, the great depression. the car almost put Bugatti out of business, the only thing that saved them was when the french government used them for trains
Wow! Gorgeous! Those are the most valuable cars in the world! It is also the largest with a wheelbase of 20 feet. Each one costed $30,000 USD a piece (which amounts to over millions of dollars in late 20's and early 30's currency. As I recall the last time one of those were auctioned off it sold for over 10 million USD! Ettore Bugatti used one of them as his personal transport. It had a 12 litre straight-8 engine that was so ridiculously huge the surplus engines were used on small locomotives.
13 Litre stright eight. Approx. 300hp in the 1930's!!! Had the Roaring Twenties economic boom continued into the thirties, Bugatti would have never died in its prime. We now witness the Veyron in the MY years; I wonder how soon it will be before we hit a depression worse than the thirties!!!
fuck you kar my dobe rab haz a turbt ans a suphchadty anf geut 55 mpg
MsCrappants 1 month ago
Crap, now that's old school! :)
ujellybroski 2 months ago
I'm lead to believe there were 6 or7 built by Bugatti and one built by some mad bugger in the 80's on a Royale chassis. Could anyone confirm or poo-poo this notion PLEASE.
selmerthegod 3 months ago
@selmerthegod . Factory build 6 of Type 41 (Royale). They all still exist, although some were re-bodied. The only replica I know, was built by Schlumpf collection on a remaining factory chassis with Jean Bugatti roadster body ordered originally by an entrepreneur. Esders (roadster was driven only at the daylight and does not have headlights.
Dusan45 3 months ago
@Dusan45 Thank you for that. Very interesting.
selmerthegod 3 months ago
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I love the Royale. It's one of the first cars I ever saw, in a book. One day, I want to see it for real, in the museum.
AlistairVeyron 4 months ago
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AlistairVeyron 4 months ago
I visited the museum for 2 weeks ago... it´s a FANTASTIC place, if you love cars!
orionrodi 5 months ago
I dont think the front end is long enough..
lysolmax 6 months ago
A Beauty
Porschefanatic100 6 months ago
i've seen that car at the museum in france
nZiKiLL3r 7 months ago
You can research this car, It had bad handling and grip, but with a speed of 144mph in 1928 is just astonishing. There were only 6 produced, and they were 500,000$ at the time. It was also the most expensive car sold in auction, in 1980's at 14 million dollars.
IntoxicateMeMrOwl 10 months ago
i think that the blue and black one was owned by etorre bugatti himself
Silvershadow317 10 months ago
cruella deville much?
mrpeopleonfire 1 year ago
Well with the prices 250 GTO's are currently fetching I wouldn't be surprised to see a Royale from a private collection being sold for $25 million or more.
Corbon440 1 year ago
@BlazingRabbit No problem :D
DigitalLuke64DD 1 year ago
@BlazingRabbit Very true. Ever since the Veyron came out, people have forgotten that Bugatti made luxurious grand tourers (such as this Royale) as well as the odd lightweight sports car.
DigitalLuke64DD 1 year ago
that car looks stupid and i wouldnt spend even $1000 on it its a piece of junk
id rather have a bugatti veyron thats worth the money
edman400 1 year ago
@edman400 Another kid who thinks they know everything about Bugatti, when all they know about is that the Veyron is the fastest car in the world. How does it look stupid? It was designed in the 1930's dipshit. This car is worth more than a Veyron for a reason; there's only 3 of them, and they were built for royal families. And who are the customers for the Veyron? Simon Cowell and Chris Brown a.k.a PRICKS WITH TOO MUCH CASH.
INEEDNAWZZZ 6 months ago
iwould love that car soooooo much more than a veyron
allthings321 1 year ago
Two T-41s are original from Bugatti and the third was built by the previous owners of the museum, the Schlumpf brothers, before it was stolen by the French state. The 3rd car was finally finished be Lecoq, the famous French coachbuilder. It is a rebuild of the famous Coupé Esders.
clitomaniac 1 year ago
a few minutes ago i saw a video where they drove it on the road... in the parisian rush our traffic!!!! if someone had crashed into it, the insurence would have went bust. and millions of car enthusiasts (including me) would have started to cry rivers and raised a gun to their heads or jumped off a tall building
DaBoogie049 1 year ago
More like € 24,000,000.
Corbon440 1 year ago
I rather drive a murgielago then a big penis around all day,
youtubkicksass 1 year ago
i want to hear it rev
118DEC118 1 year ago
choose, veyron or royale?
pnskbk 1 year ago
@pnskbk Royale all day
USKilop 1 year ago
it was auctioned off for i think 18 million i could be wrong but i think it was the highest price paid for a car
Grant5321 1 year ago
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Nice car like neo classic Panther De Ville insiperd by the Bugatti Type 41 Royale!
PDVSC 2 years ago
Bugatti, the worlds best car manufacturer in the history! AWESOME!
yawn91 2 years ago
This thing costed $30,000 back in the 30s!!
Only 6 were ever sold!
afthefragile 2 years ago
origionally 3 were sold and only 6 made . but after storage for a while the remaining three were sold
jamesthegreat16 1 year ago
I have never seen a more beautiful automobile-one cannot call this creation a "car".Thank you Dusan.
Squarerig 2 years ago
unreal this is amazing i love it and 14.000.000 is a lot for it but if i had the cash i wuld try to get one
chrismuchwanoinlv 2 years ago 4
@chrismuchwanoinlv @ 14mil today. and let's say it was made/sold in 1930 for 30k.
that's 175k per year investment. WOW!
chilam1 1 year ago
@chilam1 thats if you could afford to buy it in the first place lol. 30k then is around 30 times more than today. So your looking at around $900,000 in 1930 by todays equivalent.
IBLOWN 1 year ago
@chrismuchwanoinlv Unfortunately u can't just get one they only made 4 of them.
my1999porscheboxster 1 year ago
3!!!!in nz thats $21,000,000
orangeblob36 2 years ago
Saw them at the same museum and.. wow incredible car!! it's unbelievable that she can reach the 200KMH !!
manu34303430 3 years ago
guess who bought one of these six cars? Cruella De Vil! lol
mauroman128 3 years ago
fucking amazing
awesome car.... fantastic !!!!!!!!!
lucasinfante 3 years ago
hmmm I'd pick this over the enzo any day.
TheLastSpartanMC 3 years ago 17
if i could have any car it would be thebugatti royale
madden222 3 years ago
so im guessing the price tag is somewhere around the 4,000,000 dollars?
HenryS1986 3 years ago
more like 14,000,000
Dusan45 3 years ago 6
really its 8,700,000 euros can u believe paying that for a car! wow
AvatarMaster9x 3 years ago
@Dusan45 are u serious? this car goes for 14 million in today's market? please respond :)
thanks:)
MrMiguelSR1 1 year ago
@Dusan45 o.o oh my good
deiegeo1 9 months ago
@HenryS1986 a 1931 Bugatti Royale Kellner Coupe would have fetched 20,000,000$ pre recession.
bigtarrose 1 year ago
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thats ugly
lilluda1711 3 years ago
@lilluda1711 you are sick in the mind
USKilop 1 year ago
ooo la la
lucaseason 3 years ago
only 6 were built and i hate to say that i wouldn`t pay 4.25 mill for this car
RealDefentertainment 3 years ago
I live in the town where this museum is, so i've seen the bugattis for real. They also have a bugatti veyron, and the veyron is producedlike 50 km away.
For me the Bugattis are the greatest cars ever built. I hope i'll belong one one day ;).
neoromantism 3 years ago
No idea what you're talking about. Lager? I'll have to look that up. Just a dumb Greek/American. :) But seriously, my username is my real name (Brilliant of me, I know.). The last name is German, but I don't pay much attention to my dad's side, because he's kind of "mixed," whereas my mom is full Greek. Well, there's the award for the most random comment of the year. I need to find more things to do with my spare time. Oy.
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Are they the original wheels?!?!?!
They look like modern day alloys!
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Yep, they are. They do look modern, don't they, though? Most wheels in from the 1910's up until the late 1930's were mostly wire wheels. Ettore Bugatti designed the wheels to cool the brakes (which were powered by cables.).
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Amazing!
Thanks for that info Chris.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Your welcome! Any more antique car questions, just contact me.
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Yeah, just one more antique car question Chris - how much do you reckon Fred Flintstone's early inCARnation would fetch at auction?
;)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Sorry, I have no idea. Alas, I'm only 15 and still have much to learn. But if you have any questions about cars of this era, I'd be happy to help. :)
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Do you know who Fred Flintstone is Chris?
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Of course I do. But I have no idea about the car. Sorry. :)
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Great answer, and thanks for not saying he was 'before your time', lol! ;)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Of course. Just to re-establish my point, if you have any questions about any car from about 1969-ish back, I'd be happy to ask. :)
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Thanks Chris, I think you mean happy to 'answer' :)
I've taken a mental note of that and will consult your very well informed self forthwith should any relevant questions ever come to mind.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Oops, Yes, "happy to answer...."
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Actually Chris - I have one question to ask you in the meantime - I like my lager - and you apparently 'stock' it as your username suggests.
I swear by my Stella Artois - but what do you recommend, assuming of course that you do stock it or know anything about lager, if not please ignore this question.
Ken ;)
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
thats the most expensive car in the world
conversevansdude 4 years ago
I wouldn't pay a cent for that car, even though it looks pretty good.
SuPeRcAr250 4 years ago
wow did you say you wouldn't pay 50 grand. too bad it's like 15 million.
Stuart165 4 years ago
These things are so friggin' valuable, but since they're soooo heavy, I bet they could never keep up with a Duesenberg J or SJ. I still would interested to see one of them in motion, though. But now no one drives them, and they seemed to have become shrines.
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Am I right, people?
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
What's your point Chris?
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
What I was saying is, I wonder what their power was in comparison to the Duesenberg J's or SJ's. But then I said we'd probably never find out because they aren't "cars" anymore, they're museum pieces. There were only six of them, but why keep them locked up gathering dust instead of them serving their true purpose-- being driven!?
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
Hmmm... I remember reading about the Duesenberg years ago, it was a German super luxurious supercar from the thirties to rival anything today, apparently the dashboard resembled that of a light aircraft with altometers and barometers etc. and a top speed of over 150mph!
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
The Duesenberg brothers were German, but the cars were American, since the brothers first came to the U.S. when they were five. The supercharged Duesy had a top speed of about 120 miles-per-hour.
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
In continuation of the last one....They sold for $20,000, the Bugatti Royales were around $40,000 each, and lastly the most expensive car in the world, in 1928,Isotta-Fraschinies. There are only about six of them in the U.S. Watch "Sunset Boulevard."
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
I actually saw that great movie years ago but can't recall any of the car references, must look out for it next time the movie's on TV.
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Didn't one souped up Duesenberg manage to average 152mph on some salt flats in America?
KenfromDublin 4 years ago
Yep, that would be the Mormon Meteor, which is probably the most valuable Duesenberg. The ones after being the two SSJ's. (Ask me if you don't know what those are.) It had probably a little less than 400 horsepower with a new rams-horn manifold that boosted the Duesenberg motor's horsepower even more. Consider the fact that a V8 Cadillac got about 90 horsepower at the least.
ChrisStockslager 4 years ago
No the ordinary Type J could go 120mph,but the SJ (S for supercharged) could go 135-140mph (at least in theory). The Mormon Meteor saw average speeds at over 150mph in 1935. It was reported to have been driven at over 160mph at one point.
McLarenMercedes 3 years ago
Yes Chris, you're right.
And your mother will be proud.
uweetwel 3 years ago
For your info a Duesenberg SJ was usually close to 3 tons too and was therefore no lightweight and marginally lighter than the Royale. But Ettore Bugatti's Royale was unrivalled in the comfort area. The 6,9litre straight8 of the Duesey needed revs,wheareas the 12,7litre 8 of the Royale made all its horsepower and torque at very low rpm's because this resulted in a very comfortable and silent ride at high speeds,Bugatti knew. Bugatti had 9 bearings for reliability.
McLarenMercedes 3 years ago
Thanks for the info! So, since the Royales had low RPM's, would they accelerate faster than an SJ? Ah, what a race that would be. Probably would never would happen, 'cause if either crashed, oops; there goes several million dollars.
ChrisStockslager 3 years ago
@ChrisStockslager Ellote fell asleep at the wheel of his own personal Royale and totaled it =p
USKilop 1 year ago
yeh lucid91 you really know your stuff. I'm an Alfa guy myself I wouldn't trade any more than 4 members of family for this car. After my parents and 2 siblings I'd draw the line.
ej0123456 4 years ago
Maybe this might be the world's most expensive car, but I woulden't buy it for 50,000. Personally I'm into cars that were built RECENTLY. Like in this century.
Lucid91 4 years ago
agre thats its most expensive car of the world bug sall those losers say the maybach exlerso or something is most expensive
gettoking25 4 years ago
i`d rather have this car that 100 thia ladyboys...lol
geddstock 4 years ago
Great car,but the Duesenberg is still my favorite.
musickid1090 4 years ago
haha you tell him dude, guy prob. doesnt know much bout cars in the first place...
I pity the fool!!!! haha
victav 5 years ago
Some ignorant fool bashed Bugatti's new Veyron and said Bugatti was a name nobody had ever heard of? I pity the fool. Then I told him about the Royale and what one of those are valued today.
McLarenMercedes 5 years ago
I know lets all pool our money together and share the car....hahaha
A40589 5 years ago
The world's greatest car ever made. Most everything when it was built. Designed by Ettore son's Jean. Out of the 6 made only 3 were sold. And only two remains, the rest are not genuine T41. These cars are the most expensive ones ($10M minimum)
TitiAFC78 5 years ago
the engines were 13 liters and the reason that they were used in locomotives was because Bugatti spent insane amounts of money producing the car, but they released it at the worst possible time ever, the great depression. the car almost put Bugatti out of business, the only thing that saved them was when the french government used them for trains
victav 5 years ago
Wow! Gorgeous! Those are the most valuable cars in the world! It is also the largest with a wheelbase of 20 feet. Each one costed $30,000 USD a piece (which amounts to over millions of dollars in late 20's and early 30's currency. As I recall the last time one of those were auctioned off it sold for over 10 million USD! Ettore Bugatti used one of them as his personal transport. It had a 12 litre straight-8 engine that was so ridiculously huge the surplus engines were used on small locomotives.
Classiccargeek67 5 years ago
13 Litre stright eight. Approx. 300hp in the 1930's!!! Had the Roaring Twenties economic boom continued into the thirties, Bugatti would have never died in its prime. We now witness the Veyron in the MY years; I wonder how soon it will be before we hit a depression worse than the thirties!!!
AustraliaTwo 4 years ago
Approximately three weeks.
uweetwel 3 years ago
There were only Six made and each was different!
stubs13 5 years ago