You see, I wanted to make my paintings look classical like that but they always end up looking like one of those "Painting By Numbers" things that you can get at any old arts and crafts store...
sad to see all those artist that show how nice they can draw and paint!!! just to make some cash!, and you get few tips from the dvd!, its just artist ego!, the best teacher of drawing from the last 50years was gottfried bammes! for sure you can find his books in english. incredible books about anatomy and drawing not ego just pure knowlege! he could draw the whole sleket and muscle out of his mind, amazing stuff! peace.
@puppeteye My apologies, but I don't see a connection between how the fact that Rob sells his videos could is connected to his ego. This is his profession. He spent years a lot of money learning how to draw so he could support his family. It's not about ego. I have met him, taken classes with him, and can say he is probably the most humble, unassuming and supportive art teacher I have ever had. Please don't assume every artist who is talented must be terrible person. Just not the case here.
@puppeteye My apologies, but I don't see a connection between how the fact that Rob sells his videos is a function of his ego. This is his profession. He spent years a lot of money learning how to draw so he could support his family. It's not about ego. I have met him, taken classes with him, and can say he is probably the most humble, unassuming and supportive art teacher I have ever had. Please don't assume every artist who is talented must be terrible person. Just not the case here.
As a materials & techniques professor it was a curiosity to try Red, gray & white natural chalk. The biggest problem with finding & choosing lumps is that no 2 are the same in hardness or color. Black chalk had been mined out of existence so what's left is gray chalk which varies quite a bit more in hardness & color. It's not about skepticism for what was used by the masters tried and true, it's about trying what they have used. There is a difference in handling it's the delicacy.
Fascinating. If you mean to say the appeal lies in sating the historical curiosity of discovering *exactly* how the *exact* materials used by the old masters handled (rather than availing oneself of some "lost secret") then I enthusiastically agree. I've long been curious about exactly how their brushes looked and performed. There are very few paintings prior to the eighteenth century (or subsequent to it for that matter) in which the artist depicts himself...
II. ..holding his brushes (believe me when I run across one I take notice) and in almost all such painting the brushes are sketched in only very cursorily and could scarcely be distinguished from a fist full of dandelions. But in the rare exceptions, the brushes the artist shows himself holding appear to be very blunt, the tips rather bulb-shaped -almost like a shaving brush. I imagine these would be very difficult to work with.
hey Robert you are amazing. I just learned about you from my professor Karen Santry. She showed me this piece you did. Apparently you guys art traded. I can definitely appreciate this. Really gave me the momentum to draw tonight.
Robert Liberace has set the bar high. HIs DVDs truly are educational tools. RL is a master and eloquently expresses his ideas while conducting demonstrations. His fine gestural pencil marks on the toned support demand a high level in production quality and the quality shines through. This is not a pro stepping out of his league to make bread & butter money off of hobbyists. This is a conscientious effort to share knowledge from a master made available to everyone interested.
my teacher's friend dug up some authentic sanguine...he passed away and never told; so my teacher wont let me even touch it.
as for the black chalk, i find that General's xtra hard charcoal pencil is the material on the market most resembling natural black chalk; or of course you could get the actual thing: really expensive though, frustrating to work with; getting it on the paper is tricky bc of how hard the chalk is...but i guess paper quality gets its share of blame.
I'm curious how authentic sanguine handles. Do you know if it's anything like a Conte' crayon? I just saw the Leonardo Da Vinci exhibit at the Getty museum yesterday, and there's a drawing of a baby's head not more than two inches high, and it has lines so fine and fine, crisp you could't possibly do that drawing in red Conte with out resharpening after almost every stroke.
As for black chalk substitutes, if you like General's HB I highly recommend you try Wolff pencils.
@ChadSmith1452 It is best to go to Robert Doak and Associates or Sinopia to hand pick lumps of Sanguine natural red chalk. No 2 pieces are the same in color or hardness. Black chalk no longer exists and Charcoal or the very fugitive Berol color pencils do not suffice. Sanguine is slippery unlike the fabricated Conte sanguine which drags on the paper surfaces.
"Best to go to Robert Doak or Sinopia and hand pick lumps of Sanguine..."
But why? Is the product really worth that trouble? I must say I'm very skeptical. To be honest, this reminds of all the talk of finding the "lost medium" of the old masters and Maroger's endless experiments and and concoctions that sought to "rediscover" what was in fact nothing more sophisticated than simple walnut oil (in Rembrandt's case) or poppy oil and mastic resin (in Rubens' case).
@ChadSmith1452 Well really it a lot to do with the skill of the artist as well. The lumps of Black Red and White chalk act differently than the Conte or other attempt at mimicking the original medium. No Miracle here as with the so-called speculators like Doerner or Maroger etc. Science has discovered the real fact underlying oil painting techniques. Real Sanguine is slippery and retains its shape better than most commercial fabrications. Sedimentary rock has a natural molecular binder.
Where would one easily buy those red chalk pencils he uses in Europe? (maybe benelux?-
Because I've asked around and most shopkeepers here haven't even heard of it, but if I give a brandname and tell them specifically what to order, they might.
Fantastic. I saw the article about you in the American Artist "Workshop" issue, and stopped reading as soon as I saw that you have a DVD. I went straight to your site and ordered it! Now I need to go back read that article.
FANTASTIC! NO WORDS! CONGRATULATIONS! YOU ARE THE BEST!
DenisUtopian 2 months ago
O.......M...........G O_o
Juank1o 3 months ago
your vids have def. been hiding
nikeafs91 3 months ago
fantastic :)
colourtolight 4 months ago
Wtf
klevdav 5 months ago
what is that he puts on the canvas at 2:18 ?
FunkyFion06 6 months ago
This is another Talent !!!
Oh my god...
cybrid1940 6 months ago
What kind of paper are you using? What is it called, please.
becooldontfreez 7 months ago
You see, I wanted to make my paintings look classical like that but they always end up looking like one of those "Painting By Numbers" things that you can get at any old arts and crafts store...
TheArtistikSoul 8 months ago
i dont like it ,i love it !
JDepptastic 10 months ago
sad to see all those artist that show how nice they can draw and paint!!! just to make some cash!, and you get few tips from the dvd!, its just artist ego!, the best teacher of drawing from the last 50years was gottfried bammes! for sure you can find his books in english. incredible books about anatomy and drawing not ego just pure knowlege! he could draw the whole sleket and muscle out of his mind, amazing stuff! peace.
puppeteye 1 year ago
@puppeteye My apologies, but I don't see a connection between how the fact that Rob sells his videos could is connected to his ego. This is his profession. He spent years a lot of money learning how to draw so he could support his family. It's not about ego. I have met him, taken classes with him, and can say he is probably the most humble, unassuming and supportive art teacher I have ever had. Please don't assume every artist who is talented must be terrible person. Just not the case here.
crashburnwinston 9 months ago
@puppeteye My apologies, but I don't see a connection between how the fact that Rob sells his videos is a function of his ego. This is his profession. He spent years a lot of money learning how to draw so he could support his family. It's not about ego. I have met him, taken classes with him, and can say he is probably the most humble, unassuming and supportive art teacher I have ever had. Please don't assume every artist who is talented must be terrible person. Just not the case here.
crashburnwinston 9 months ago 2
A W E S O M E!!!
deeknits 1 year ago
Hello, when Raphael and other Renaissance artists used chalk, did they use chalk pencils like this, or sticks of chalk?
2Touchstone 1 year ago
As a materials & techniques professor it was a curiosity to try Red, gray & white natural chalk. The biggest problem with finding & choosing lumps is that no 2 are the same in hardness or color. Black chalk had been mined out of existence so what's left is gray chalk which varies quite a bit more in hardness & color. It's not about skepticism for what was used by the masters tried and true, it's about trying what they have used. There is a difference in handling it's the delicacy.
tomestubbs 1 year ago
@tomestubbs
I.
Fascinating. If you mean to say the appeal lies in sating the historical curiosity of discovering *exactly* how the *exact* materials used by the old masters handled (rather than availing oneself of some "lost secret") then I enthusiastically agree. I've long been curious about exactly how their brushes looked and performed. There are very few paintings prior to the eighteenth century (or subsequent to it for that matter) in which the artist depicts himself...
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
II. ..holding his brushes (believe me when I run across one I take notice) and in almost all such painting the brushes are sketched in only very cursorily and could scarcely be distinguished from a fist full of dandelions. But in the rare exceptions, the brushes the artist shows himself holding appear to be very blunt, the tips rather bulb-shaped -almost like a shaving brush. I imagine these would be very difficult to work with.
I don't suppose you'd know anything about this?
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
Using coffee as a tone for the ground is about the most destructive advice one can give.
tomestubbs 1 year ago
I give my soul to be your student ...
martin4oooooo 1 year ago
whats the music called??? :D
DHHark 1 year ago
O.O
ecatombe92 1 year ago
Wow... phenomenal. I want to learn how to draw the human body correctly so bad. This is absolutely wonderful. You're extremely talented.
cooFREAKS 1 year ago
hey Robert you are amazing. I just learned about you from my professor Karen Santry. She showed me this piece you did. Apparently you guys art traded. I can definitely appreciate this. Really gave me the momentum to draw tonight.
Limited317 1 year ago
Robert Liberace has set the bar high. HIs DVDs truly are educational tools. RL is a master and eloquently expresses his ideas while conducting demonstrations. His fine gestural pencil marks on the toned support demand a high level in production quality and the quality shines through. This is not a pro stepping out of his league to make bread & butter money off of hobbyists. This is a conscientious effort to share knowledge from a master made available to everyone interested.
ArtDVDReview 1 year ago 2
my teacher's friend dug up some authentic sanguine...he passed away and never told; so my teacher wont let me even touch it.
as for the black chalk, i find that General's xtra hard charcoal pencil is the material on the market most resembling natural black chalk; or of course you could get the actual thing: really expensive though, frustrating to work with; getting it on the paper is tricky bc of how hard the chalk is...but i guess paper quality gets its share of blame.
arrecotinarrecotan 2 years ago
@arrecotinarrecotan
I'm curious how authentic sanguine handles. Do you know if it's anything like a Conte' crayon? I just saw the Leonardo Da Vinci exhibit at the Getty museum yesterday, and there's a drawing of a baby's head not more than two inches high, and it has lines so fine and fine, crisp you could't possibly do that drawing in red Conte with out resharpening after almost every stroke.
As for black chalk substitutes, if you like General's HB I highly recommend you try Wolff pencils.
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
@ChadSmith1452 edit: *fine and crisp
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
@ChadSmith1452 It is best to go to Robert Doak and Associates or Sinopia to hand pick lumps of Sanguine natural red chalk. No 2 pieces are the same in color or hardness. Black chalk no longer exists and Charcoal or the very fugitive Berol color pencils do not suffice. Sanguine is slippery unlike the fabricated Conte sanguine which drags on the paper surfaces.
tomestubbs 1 year ago
"Best to go to Robert Doak or Sinopia and hand pick lumps of Sanguine..."
But why? Is the product really worth that trouble? I must say I'm very skeptical. To be honest, this reminds of all the talk of finding the "lost medium" of the old masters and Maroger's endless experiments and and concoctions that sought to "rediscover" what was in fact nothing more sophisticated than simple walnut oil (in Rembrandt's case) or poppy oil and mastic resin (in Rubens' case).
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
@ChadSmith1452 Well really it a lot to do with the skill of the artist as well. The lumps of Black Red and White chalk act differently than the Conte or other attempt at mimicking the original medium. No Miracle here as with the so-called speculators like Doerner or Maroger etc. Science has discovered the real fact underlying oil painting techniques. Real Sanguine is slippery and retains its shape better than most commercial fabrications. Sedimentary rock has a natural molecular binder.
tomestubbs 1 year ago
do you draw many of these from imagination or are they all from reference?
SweetPea1239 2 years ago
i'm pretty sure he's working from life
KPattonArt123 2 years ago
this is !!Great .
fjc973 2 years ago
where will we be able to purchase said videos?
TheGeeWhy 2 years ago
Thank you, one more thing, does he discuss all of the materials he uses in his videos?
siamboxing5 2 years ago
Yes, he's very thorough with everything.
robliberace 2 years ago
Where would one easily buy those red chalk pencils he uses in Europe? (maybe benelux?-
Because I've asked around and most shopkeepers here haven't even heard of it, but if I give a brandname and tell them specifically what to order, they might.
Thanks in advance.
mo91919 2 years ago
Most art stores, actually. They're just Prismacolor Verithins.
robliberace 2 years ago
I see. Thank you for the quick reply.
I'll go and order a box or scarlet red then.
I'm just guessing the type of red ofcourse :)
mo91919 2 years ago
Scarlet works (as does any color) but I use mostly "terra cotta" colored pencils--it looks most like sanguine chalk.
Good luck
robliberace 2 years ago
Thank you very much. I sincerely appreciate the information. Have a nice day.
mo91919 2 years ago
terra cotta, actually
robliberace 2 years ago
@robliberace
Where do you get those pencils?
They look like red chalk but the leads appear very thin.
Your draftsmanship, by the way, is as good as it gets.
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
@robliberace
Oh, they're Verithins? Wow that's a surprise, because at :43 you seem to be blending them.
It's amazing how you get that sfumato look with prismacolor pencils.
ChadSmith1452 1 year ago
yes
AmericanArtistMag 2 years ago
amazing! i cant wait until i can purchase the figure drawing videos. BTW what pencils do you use for the red and black figure drawings? Thank you
siamboxing5 2 years ago
Rob's "Figure in Motion" video will be out in mid August. Just go to his website. The pencils here are Verithin. Thanks!
robliberace 2 years ago
Rob your work is trully inspirational... but out of Curiosity how old are you?
donelleking 2 years ago
Absolutely fantastic.
humblestumble 2 years ago
Actually, the pianist, Liberace, is my grandfather's cousin.
robliberace 2 years ago
Are you related to LIBERACE the pianist, by chance?
keyboardmagic 2 years ago
Awesome vid... have to check out more of your work... greetings from Ecuador!
GriNGoLocoTe 2 years ago
Fantastic. I saw the article about you in the American Artist "Workshop" issue, and stopped reading as soon as I saw that you have a DVD. I went straight to your site and ordered it! Now I need to go back read that article.
I've been a fan for years.
RentAnEducation 2 years ago
Thanks a lot. I hope you enjoy the DVD.
robliberace 2 years ago
You are damn good Robert. Did you draw this from your imagination?
UncleRabbit1 2 years ago
No-they're all drawn from life.
robliberace 2 years ago
masterful! Truly inspirational.
rfarcot 2 years ago
Good video Rob! Almost as good as being back in one of your classes!
Cakes858 2 years ago
Good video Rob! Almost as good as being back in one of your classes!
Cakes858 2 years ago