I wouldn't want to be n your shoes on the day you step into eternity. This presentation is a complete mockery of the God that is responsible for every breath you take, weather you believe it or not. Do you feel man is greater than all these things he has created? (made) I doubt that you do. Well in the same way it took one greater than man to make a man. But Jesus Loves you and will continue to wait for you to call on Him, until the day you breathe you last breath.
I wouldn't want to be n your shoes on the day you step into eternity. This presentation is a complete mockery of the God that is responsible for every breath you take, weather you believe it or not. Do you feel man is greater than all these things he has created? (made) I doubt that you do. Well in the same way it took one greater than man to make a man.
So since yOU have all the answers, then what will happen when yOU die? Acts 2:16-21,...this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
“‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people... before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’His name is Jesus. He is the Creator and He created mankind with the intelligence to do all that you show in the video. God loves you! and He wants to know you
With everything that god gave us and how clearly evident gOD is how could we question his greatness?? You know the way he sits back and does nothing. Always being their in ancient history with stories passed down by highly superstitious uneducated desert goat herders with stories that only contradict them selves every story or so. He does such a good job of staying out of the way its almost like gODs not even there. Like as though he doesnt exist at all. Good trick gOD. Its all about faith
thank god we have science and scientists to develop vaccines and such because if we just left it up to gods will nothing would ever get done and we would all be dying from easily curable diseases
You say when last has God done this, when last has God done that. It's funny that scientists have tried to figure out for many years how the earth was created, but yet Christians know the answer. How then do you try to place your science above God?
@MastaE22 Christians "know" nothing of the kind. They have "faith" in an answer supported by zero evidence. Faith is not knowledge nor knowledge faith.
Religion has brought us much in the last 1000 years. Much war, oppression, pursicution, intolerance, slavery, genocide, murder, rape, condoned child molestation, witch hunts and burnings, book burning....
Even today we are waging 2 wars which the catalyst even was a religiously motivated event.
It's just ignorance to say religion has given us nothing.
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Organized religion has hindered science everystep of the way...even before the beginning of christianity. It will continue to be a thorn in the way of progress when people follow blindly instead of realistically trying to find answers. Scientifically, spiritually, or otherwise.
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Our civilazation is no more based on the bible than it is on any other ancient mythology. And, that's exactly all the bible is, ancient mythology and nothing more.
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Who gives a shit if Buzz Aldrin has an imaginary friend? Francis Collins didn't "discover the human genome" He merely administrated the project that did. Get your facts straight, you moron. BTW, Collins also completely rejects intelligent design. Have fun with the consistency of that viewpoint.
its sad to know that there are still religions and god fearing people in this world....imagine if there was no religion,can you even fathome how far advanced we would be? would there even be half of the wars that happened in earths history?uuugggghghhh....humans are pathetic,glad im not one of these "believers"...i use as much of my mind as i can
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Science was invented in spite of religion, not by, or because of it. As for science being invented by christians, good luck with that proof. Are these the same christians that locked Galileo away? What the fuck are you even talking about?
Religion without Love and Sincerity and a Spiritual Relationship is Dead! That is what Jesus taught and most christians miss...anyway, Everything man has created can be found already... i.e. computer = brain, flight = birds, motors = mitochondria etc etc etc
God is Love 1 John.
Love your neighbor as well as yourself...
The heart of Jesus is the Heart of Love.
Religion is Dead...Spiritual Faith is Action, Alive, and a thing of the heart....a true caring about others. This is what we need to heal
Why did you ask the questions then? The questions that the experts in all fields of science study everyday to figure out. They don't use insert "god" where ever they can't find answers. They search for them like rational human beings.
All the evidence shows that God was actually quite a gambler, and the universe is a great casino where dice are thrown and roulette wheels spin on every occasion
Another thing, science and God are not mortal enemies. It was early Christians who turned to the stars and began to discover them.
Johannes Kepler: "thinking God's thoughts after Him."
Science can answer WHAT, HOW, WHEN and WHERE but it can not answer WHY or WHO. Because Why is not a science question
starting off what "All the evidence shows that God.... etc..."
...well sorry to say, but there is no evidence for gods other than a book written by MAN at a time where humans were very intellectually immature(which is probably why there is so much unacceptable acts of violence in the bible and inconsistencies with what is known today in the scientific world).
Your argument starts off so flawed that everything you say after that really holds no value or meaning.
Talking snake, world-wide flood that never happened, angels killing the first born sons of Egypt, Eve made from a rib, virgin birth, resurrection, 7 days to make a world, but mostly the idea that knowledge is a sin, THE APPLE! Think on the apple, all is revealed therein.
You need to stop leaning Christianity from TV and read it for yourself.
in it you might find answers to the bible references you listed above. i.e. you said talking snake, another example of how you take your view of Christianity from TV and not from the real source. Dont let yourself be deceived so easily.
the bible (or Genesis 3) lists Satan as a serpent and he is not sentenced to his belly till Genesis 3:14. So it was not a snake...
Hey listen sir, I am curious. so that snake was Satan yes? em isnt finding the truth a good thing? eating fruit of the tree of knowledge? why wouldnt god (he is the good guy right?) want that? also: why are the death tolls of Satan in the bible just 1 while god's death toll is in the hundred of millions? I think you got it all wrong. dont you? the bible seems to be an allegory swaping the good and the evil which make christians devil worshipers (of course unintentionally) but it has all traits.
(P1) - 1st its not the tree of knowledge, Adam and Eve had all knowledge of all things in their world. They were not mindless beings, they could see God and talk with God, they were well informed.
Genesis 2:17 "but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil..." They did not know sin, because there was no sin, Satan was in the garden with them but still no sin. The action of taking the fruit and going against the ONE Rule was the sin, which humans did.
(P2) once they gained knowledge of Good and Evil they were ashamed of what they had done.
Now why is it called "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil", why is the word Good in there?
Because you cant have cold without hot, cold is just the absence of heat, evil is the absence of Good. Just basic science stuff here.
You have been grosly misinformed by the world around you, if you would like a more detailed answer to your question message me and i will gladly answer it for you.
Again you seem to be misinformed, there is no mention of apples or snakes, all it says is "fruit" and "serpents". What this clearly demonstrates is that your negative view of the bible is derived from the media and not based on any study of the actual documents...
ye "god judging the wicked". he killed a couple of a hundred million people and a shitload of animals (all but 2 of each kind). thats a major killing spree where I come from. he doesnt seem very loving actually. good thing Noah built his arch though! good move their ai?
and even after that he continued to kill men, women and children. excuse me let me get my facts straight, I correct myself: the wicked women and children and men. thanks for enlightening me (sarcasm)!!!
God told Noah to build the ark, it was not luck. I know your being sarcastic here but you have raised a good point. Look at every major civilization and look the how they fall when the society becomes so depraved. Egypt, Greece, Rome, even America right now are on the border of this. God cleansed the world once and only once and it will never happen again, but we see it happening all through history, not with floods but it is the same pattern. (and this book was written before all this happened)
If you want detailed answers to your questions, please send me a message so i can answer them fully.
#1 All it says in Genesis is Serpent. In other books of Genesis its names snakes as snakes so the writer knew the difference between a serpent and a snake. See this is what comes of studying the texts.
#2 See the problem does not necessarily lay in the knowledge but in the desire. Eve (and Adam) desired what they could not have. Enter Sin.
See i cant even write a decent answer in this space...
#2.2 Again, they had knowledge already, just look at the dif between them before and after.
#2.3 it just says fruit. Side note, say it was an apple tree, but it was not the only apple tree in the garden, then have tones of apple trees. again its not the fruit that is the problem.
#3 What death toll issue?
#4 Read Matthew 24:36 - no one knows that date or the time. Yes the bible does talk about end times, no we do not want to make it happen and who will do it... God will do it.
#1/#2 wow how trivial is that and you belittle me for not knowing the bible.
#3 the death toll god:>a couple of a hundred million+billions of animals vs. devil:1 (commanded by "god")
#4 "god" will do it or some religious nut will fulfill the "will" of "god" by pushing a big red button. but this prophecy is vary vague. there isnt more about the end of days, judment day in the bible than this?
1.bible says serpent its always "assumed" that its a snake reguardless that proverbs says "do not add or subtract from the bible less ye be called a liar".
2. ignorance is bliss just look at bush jr if you dont believe me.
2.2 know the difference
2.3 it was a kumquat, don't know that depends on your demographic.
3.what death toll issue?
4.the book of proverbs was a vision and i guess supposedly by the Antichrist depending on point of view.
Early Christians lead the way for Science, Astronomy and Astrophysics. Sure, Mayans and Egyptians had a hand in it too. But there is no denying that the first scientists were Christians.
@KiwiChristian "Why" is most certainly a science question and anyone who says it isn't hasn't been paying attention to evolutionary branches of all the physical sciences over the last fifty years or so. "WHY" is the fundamental building block of "HOW".
@MrMZaccone But the "How" can be discovered and tested independent of any "Why" aspects. I have yet to see a scientific experiment that details the "Why" question, only the "how" or mostly the "what".
@KiwiChristian I suppose it depends on what you consider a "why" question, doesn't it? When asked "why" people act the way they do, I generally point to evolution. But you could just as easily ask "how" they end up with such behaviors, couldn't you. "Why", "How"? Is there a difference?
@MrMZaccone "How" or "Why" humans do what they do is hardly a scientific question. I am talking about "why" do two body's of mass attract each other. Gravity answers the "what-is-happening" question but not the "why". Light is both wave and partial, science cant answer "why" but can tell us "what" and "how" it can be both.
Quote Dr G Liston PhD "To be able to describe something we need to say what it does, to be able to understand something we need to say why it doesn't do something else."
@KiwiChristian Of course it's a scientific question. Whether it has a scientific answer remains to be seen. As for questions concerning why, I think Gravity answers the appropriate "why" questions quite nicely. The implied necessity to answer why every single thing isn't something else as a prerequisite for understanding is just damned silly.
@MrMZaccone Dr. G Liston PhD is my Pastor. You can read his doctoral thesis online (google The Atomic Trampoline Cavity - Youtube wont let me post the link)
If you into quantum physics you might enjoy it, i know i did.
@MrMZaccone But the "How" can be discovered and tested independent of any "Why" aspects. I have yet to see a scientific experiment that details the "Why" question, only the "how" or mostly the "what".
@KiwiChristian "Another thing, science and God are not mortal enemies"
Relgion and science are mortal enemies-- remember it was the catholic church who burnt thousands of "scientist" alive becuase they disagreed with the church
All is inside our interacting brain hemispheres; right=parallel processor, left=serial. This (and prob the double helix structure of DNA) creates duality thinking and perception, e.g., polarity, matter/antimatter, yin/yang, etc. Right brain is sensitive to external waves, while left interprets them to comport with our senses; hence the illusion of sequentiality (time), for example. Everything "exists" in an eternal, pulsating, spherical wave singularity. Such is likely the physics of Reality.
your computer must be out dated or got a virus..that was man made. same with this internet your on..god didnt make this, but same with wars and the death toll rise on earth its, all man made..
This must be a joke, because it's too stupid to swalow. I don't believe man can be so stupid. Anyway, I asked the computer today how much is 2+2X2, and it told me it was 6. When was the last time you calculated 2+2X2 ? You never did that, did you, LOOSER !
These machines and probes and rockets are insignificant specks in the scope of the universe, and so are you! Unless, of course, and this is true: God cares enough about creation and especially human beings to come to earth and re-establish a broken relationship with humanity.
In the scope of the universe, you are meaningless, but to God, you are a friend, no matter how hard you've tried to be an enemy. When Jesus Christ loved his enemies, he made them friends!
"These machines and probes and rockets are insignificant specks in the scope of the universe" - Actually, your opinions are. See, whilst the machine, probe and rocket are insignificant bits of matter within the universe, the actual understading of how to make these machines, probes and rockets is of the universe itself. We would not have any of them working unless we really understood the universe. So they very much ARE THE UNIVERSE....
Your religion was built on lies violence hatred robbery pagan ideas and traditions and communism you fuckin Christians make me sick with your stupid quotes from the "holy" bible remember you dam those who don't believe in what you believe in to hell so i guess all native Americans and African tribes are goin to hell
Theists would argue God made all that stuff in the first place. Isn't it harder to conceive of DNA than simply sequence it? I don't find the approach of this video effective. God will disappear as our scientific understanding removes his last holdouts - abiogenesis and the origin of the universe. Religion's had at least 4,000 years, science only a few hundred (modern science even less). You think in 3,700 years there will still be a debate? Like many, though, I'm impatient.
Jesus was a healer? Why couldn't his followers heal small pox, malaria and all the other diseases that plagued us? Why did they wait for science to find a cure?
Even if we do 'worship' science, it's well deserved because churches have done nothing for us besides take our money and give us stupid laws to live by.
nice vid, people realy need to wake up and leave the whole god thing in the past where it belongs, we have learned so much as a species and continuing to believe in god is a waste of all that hard work and knowlege.
So he just plopped it in there just to give us something to do? Didn't give a thought to about how its laws (physics, biology, etc) effect us every day? Your god is an idiot then.
Have given him nothing in return? We've given him centuries of our finest minds, who'd rather slave over a book and its fables than the natural world around him. We've given him thousands of years of female oppression. We've given him the lives and souls of crusaders, martyrs and fanatics, who've died over an idea...
Yes, their actions do pollute the knowledge of mankind, and retards those who encounter them. Thank God that we have educated people how do not believe their nonsense.
God gave us free will. He gave us a mind to choose our path a mind to change what we can or ignor what we don't want to change. A desire to explore. Just because man did something doesn't negate the existance of God. Because we can accomplish anything is proof enough that there is something more(God) or some other higher power.
The evidence, so far at least, shows no need for a creator. It is a faulty story logic. Perfect being makes imperfect creations, then blames them for their shortcomings. Pretty lame and arrogant if you ask me. No sorry, all gods are an anthropomorphism.
We can only hope that change will come from within. If you feel passionate about doing something to stop this there are options. Options, I might caveat, that do not include violence. I have chosen to befriend the sheeple and work to show them truth where and when I can. If that is not how you will fight, then good fortune in how you do choose to. I agree there is a "Them" but I choose to learn and teach and have no idea how "we" would fight "them". To me there is only Us.
Got any suggestions on how to fix this? Other than of course having an educated, healthy, happy populace instead of an ignorant, sickly, frightened populace?
Saw Loose Change, Zeitgeist, et all. Just not enough real evidence. You want to fight for an investigation, go ahead. But the claims are just too large put forth in those videos. I don't 100% believe the TV story either, but there's large claims and little evidence.
So, you're a Luddite? Blow up the power plants, send us back to the stone age? Ya that'll make us more civilized. Nuclear reactors can make energy and medicine or we can use it to make bombs. I wanted 9/11 to be an inside job too, but it just wasn't, unless you claim the hijackers were CIA plants.
I researched the same thing and for a while I was convinced too. Then I started talking to people at universities and found it's just not true. You can see the moon-car, the mirrors, you can. Now if you want to discuss the film being fake, I'm open to that. Radiation prob ruined the original film so....
Your Gods have done nothing but create life and death. We as people try desperatly to advance the quality and longevity of both. 1000's of years ago our teeth killed us. In my opinion the universe is the birth of what is to be a god. It just might be triilions of years yet to go. Nobody will ever know.
The concept of Gods has not created life, but death. Science is the only philosophy agreed upon by everyone. (well, almost) It's our only way of thinking that can change, be happy to wrong and work for the good of the species. Religion has created mass communal neurosis.
In the Colombo episode, a female movie/TV exec submits "The Professional" to her boss/lover who says it's too violent and is worried about the girl being in love with him and her being 12. So strange for it just pop up like that, but ya, great movie.
Yep not a single miracle in there. Those were all accomplished through hard labor and gifted minds. It would be nice if Hovind would maybe pray for a cool new technology or something for once. Now that would be something. But noooooo...
God didn't do all of these things, but He provided the raw material man used to do them with.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
this is stupid
BCShimDaddy 6 months ago
love the music makes me feel like im back in the 80's about to watch some Disney space sci fi!
flight of the navigator!!!
TheDharmaSpecialist 8 months ago
I wouldn't want to be n your shoes on the day you step into eternity. This presentation is a complete mockery of the God that is responsible for every breath you take, weather you believe it or not. Do you feel man is greater than all these things he has created? (made) I doubt that you do. Well in the same way it took one greater than man to make a man. But Jesus Loves you and will continue to wait for you to call on Him, until the day you breathe you last breath.
blynch47 8 months ago
I wouldn't want to be n your shoes on the day you step into eternity. This presentation is a complete mockery of the God that is responsible for every breath you take, weather you believe it or not. Do you feel man is greater than all these things he has created? (made) I doubt that you do. Well in the same way it took one greater than man to make a man.
blynch47 8 months ago
So since yOU have all the answers, then what will happen when yOU die? Acts 2:16-21,...this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
“‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people... before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’His name is Jesus. He is the Creator and He created mankind with the intelligence to do all that you show in the video. God loves you! and He wants to know you
Drumwell1 1 year ago
With everything that god gave us and how clearly evident gOD is how could we question his greatness?? You know the way he sits back and does nothing. Always being their in ancient history with stories passed down by highly superstitious uneducated desert goat herders with stories that only contradict them selves every story or so. He does such a good job of staying out of the way its almost like gODs not even there. Like as though he doesnt exist at all. Good trick gOD. Its all about faith
party489 1 year ago
thank god we have science and scientists to develop vaccines and such because if we just left it up to gods will nothing would ever get done and we would all be dying from easily curable diseases
ta2joe13 1 year ago
If there was a god why did he make the other planets?
beyondbeyondness 1 year ago
Iron chariots beat god everytime.
beyondbeyondness 1 year ago
@jamestaylorguy This video is a specific rebuttal to the Kent Hovind bullshit contained within. You're the fucktard.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
You say when last has God done this, when last has God done that. It's funny that scientists have tried to figure out for many years how the earth was created, but yet Christians know the answer. How then do you try to place your science above God?
MastaE22 1 year ago
@MastaE22 Christians "know" nothing of the kind. They have "faith" in an answer supported by zero evidence. Faith is not knowledge nor knowledge faith.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
Religion has brought us much in the last 1000 years. Much war, oppression, pursicution, intolerance, slavery, genocide, murder, rape, condoned child molestation, witch hunts and burnings, book burning....
Even today we are waging 2 wars which the catalyst even was a religiously motivated event.
It's just ignorance to say religion has given us nothing.
torak101 1 year ago 2
@torak101 Good point!
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
wow the person that made this video is really delusional
Essjaythegreat 1 year ago
Actually I think the real miricale is not Jesus healing the sick but what science has done to wipe out some dieases.
badpanda84 1 year ago
Over the last 1000 years, religion has brought us SCIENCE!!!
Creationists are idiots, but CHRISTIANITY has brought us science and every progress!!!
Without The Bible upon which our civilization & science is founded, we are dead.
zaqwsxcderfv001 2 years ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Organized religion has hindered science everystep of the way...even before the beginning of christianity. It will continue to be a thorn in the way of progress when people follow blindly instead of realistically trying to find answers. Scientifically, spiritually, or otherwise.
newgreatdepression 1 year ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 WTF wasnt it the catholich church who killed and tortured sciencist who claimed everything revolved around the sun
badpanda84 1 year ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Our civilazation is no more based on the bible than it is on any other ancient mythology. And, that's exactly all the bible is, ancient mythology and nothing more.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
Hovind and creationists are idiots who don't represent God or Christianity.
GOD built the entire universe and everyone one in it including you!
Many of the astronauts who landed on the Moon were Christians. Buzz Aldrin was a Pastor in a church. Another
Lunar astronaut founded his own church when he came back to Earth.
Francis Collins, the scientist who discovered the Human Genome, became a Born-Again Christian.
zaqwsxcderfv001 2 years ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 No he represents god perfectly.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Who gives a shit if Buzz Aldrin has an imaginary friend? Francis Collins didn't "discover the human genome" He merely administrated the project that did. Get your facts straight, you moron. BTW, Collins also completely rejects intelligent design. Have fun with the consistency of that viewpoint.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
the video of DNA at 30 seconds is that real or just an animation?
1aaronaaron1 2 years ago
i'm taking credit for the death toll...ego death that is
baulzowt 2 years ago
its sad to know that there are still religions and god fearing people in this world....imagine if there was no religion,can you even fathome how far advanced we would be? would there even be half of the wars that happened in earths history?uuugggghghhh....humans are pathetic,glad im not one of these "believers"...i use as much of my mind as i can
dontFwithJoe 2 years ago
Actually you'd be living in a cave being raped and finally eaten by your own family.
Almost every scientific advance has been due to religion, mainly Christianity. Science itself was invented by Christians.
zaqwsxcderfv001 2 years ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 WTF wasnt it christains who burnt people at the stake who claims the world was round.
Oh wait that was the catholics
badpanda84 1 year ago
@zaqwsxcderfv001 Science was invented in spite of religion, not by, or because of it. As for science being invented by christians, good luck with that proof. Are these the same christians that locked Galileo away? What the fuck are you even talking about?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
God is the ultimate scientist, artist, and director. He knows all the anwsers so he uses the socratic method of teaching us in my perspective.
joeb930 2 years ago
nea I'm afraid you got it all wrong. there is no god. glad I could help!
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
@joeb930 So god, not Socrates invented the socratic method? Stupid fuckin' name for it then, don't you think?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
watch?v=IXZCEJwiC3A
think outside the box :)
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
religion gave us the ................Dark Ages
swinewarrior 2 years ago 2
Religion without Love and Sincerity and a Spiritual Relationship is Dead! That is what Jesus taught and most christians miss...anyway, Everything man has created can be found already... i.e. computer = brain, flight = birds, motors = mitochondria etc etc etc
God is Love 1 John.
Love your neighbor as well as yourself...
The heart of Jesus is the Heart of Love.
Religion is Dead...Spiritual Faith is Action, Alive, and a thing of the heart....a true caring about others. This is what we need to heal
scottlloyd 2 years ago
Jenofonte lived 97 years on 500 bC...
guille22xt 2 years ago
Another point, so you are saying there is a God?
(because you claim He has not created anything in the last 100 years, so you admit there has to be a God?)
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
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NuyBard 2 years ago
God is a creator, He loves to create and possibly His greatest creation is something so inherently like Him that we go on creating.
Question for you then - How did life on earth start?
Or how can life come from non-life?
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
You may find this video helpful: "Abiogenesis-Origin of Life."
HalfDeath13 2 years ago
just because u don't know the answers doesn't mean there is a god
divineson05 2 years ago
who said i dont know the answer?
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
Why did you ask the questions then? The questions that the experts in all fields of science study everyday to figure out. They don't use insert "god" where ever they can't find answers. They search for them like rational human beings.
divineson05 2 years ago
Sure - Like Stephen Hawking?
All the evidence shows that God was actually quite a gambler, and the universe is a great casino where dice are thrown and roulette wheels spin on every occasion
Another thing, science and God are not mortal enemies. It was early Christians who turned to the stars and began to discover them.
Johannes Kepler: "thinking God's thoughts after Him."
Science can answer WHAT, HOW, WHEN and WHERE but it can not answer WHY or WHO. Because Why is not a science question
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
starting off what "All the evidence shows that God.... etc..."
...well sorry to say, but there is no evidence for gods other than a book written by MAN at a time where humans were very intellectually immature(which is probably why there is so much unacceptable acts of violence in the bible and inconsistencies with what is known today in the scientific world).
Your argument starts off so flawed that everything you say after that really holds no value or meaning.
divineson05 2 years ago 2
Talking snake, world-wide flood that never happened, angels killing the first born sons of Egypt, Eve made from a rib, virgin birth, resurrection, 7 days to make a world, but mostly the idea that knowledge is a sin, THE APPLE! Think on the apple, all is revealed therein.
Canaximander 2 years ago
where in the bible does it name "the apple?"
You need to stop leaning Christianity from TV and read it for yourself.
in it you might find answers to the bible references you listed above. i.e. you said talking snake, another example of how you take your view of Christianity from TV and not from the real source. Dont let yourself be deceived so easily.
the bible (or Genesis 3) lists Satan as a serpent and he is not sentenced to his belly till Genesis 3:14. So it was not a snake...
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
Hey listen sir, I am curious. so that snake was Satan yes? em isnt finding the truth a good thing? eating fruit of the tree of knowledge? why wouldnt god (he is the good guy right?) want that? also: why are the death tolls of Satan in the bible just 1 while god's death toll is in the hundred of millions? I think you got it all wrong. dont you? the bible seems to be an allegory swaping the good and the evil which make christians devil worshipers (of course unintentionally) but it has all traits.
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
(P1) - 1st its not the tree of knowledge, Adam and Eve had all knowledge of all things in their world. They were not mindless beings, they could see God and talk with God, they were well informed.
Genesis 2:17 "but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil..." They did not know sin, because there was no sin, Satan was in the garden with them but still no sin. The action of taking the fruit and going against the ONE Rule was the sin, which humans did.
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
(P2) once they gained knowledge of Good and Evil they were ashamed of what they had done.
Now why is it called "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil", why is the word Good in there?
Because you cant have cold without hot, cold is just the absence of heat, evil is the absence of Good. Just basic science stuff here.
You have been grosly misinformed by the world around you, if you would like a more detailed answer to your question message me and i will gladly answer it for you.
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
alright I'll reread genesis, it sounded obvious to me. tree of knowledge. I didnt know it had good and bad apples.
what about the death toll though?
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
Again you seem to be misinformed, there is no mention of apples or snakes, all it says is "fruit" and "serpents". What this clearly demonstrates is that your negative view of the bible is derived from the media and not based on any study of the actual documents...
And what about the death toll?
You have a problem with God judging the wicked?
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
ye "god judging the wicked". he killed a couple of a hundred million people and a shitload of animals (all but 2 of each kind). thats a major killing spree where I come from. he doesnt seem very loving actually. good thing Noah built his arch though! good move their ai?
and even after that he continued to kill men, women and children. excuse me let me get my facts straight, I correct myself: the wicked women and children and men. thanks for enlightening me (sarcasm)!!!
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
God told Noah to build the ark, it was not luck. I know your being sarcastic here but you have raised a good point. Look at every major civilization and look the how they fall when the society becomes so depraved. Egypt, Greece, Rome, even America right now are on the border of this. God cleansed the world once and only once and it will never happen again, but we see it happening all through history, not with floods but it is the same pattern. (and this book was written before all this happened)
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
no it wasnt. 4000 years of history preceeded it.
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
Again, if you would like more detailed answer, please just send me a message, im more than happy to answer your questions.
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
so it is the 'fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil'. sure I have religious questions
#1 what is the serpent? a snake or the devil/god?
#2 what is so bad about knowing of good and evil?
#2.2 does it also mean being able to distinguish? or do we need a different tree for that?
#2.3 what fruit were on the tree and where can I get them?
#3 the death toll issue.
#4 what does your book suggest on the end of the world? do you guys want to make it happen any time soon? or who will do it?
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
If you want detailed answers to your questions, please send me a message so i can answer them fully.
#1 All it says in Genesis is Serpent. In other books of Genesis its names snakes as snakes so the writer knew the difference between a serpent and a snake. See this is what comes of studying the texts.
#2 See the problem does not necessarily lay in the knowledge but in the desire. Eve (and Adam) desired what they could not have. Enter Sin.
See i cant even write a decent answer in this space...
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
#2.2 Again, they had knowledge already, just look at the dif between them before and after.
#2.3 it just says fruit. Side note, say it was an apple tree, but it was not the only apple tree in the garden, then have tones of apple trees. again its not the fruit that is the problem.
#3 What death toll issue?
#4 Read Matthew 24:36 - no one knows that date or the time. Yes the bible does talk about end times, no we do not want to make it happen and who will do it... God will do it.
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
#1/#2 wow how trivial is that and you belittle me for not knowing the bible.
#3 the death toll god:>a couple of a hundred million+billions of animals vs. devil:1 (commanded by "god")
#4 "god" will do it or some religious nut will fulfill the "will" of "god" by pushing a big red button. but this prophecy is vary vague. there isnt more about the end of days, judment day in the bible than this?
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
@MWcrazyhorse to answer your questions..
1.bible says serpent its always "assumed" that its a snake reguardless that proverbs says "do not add or subtract from the bible less ye be called a liar".
2. ignorance is bliss just look at bush jr if you dont believe me.
2.2 know the difference
2.3 it was a kumquat, don't know that depends on your demographic.
3.what death toll issue?
4.the book of proverbs was a vision and i guess supposedly by the Antichrist depending on point of view.
karn33333 2 years ago
"early Christians who turned to the stars and began to discover them." What about Aristarchus the ancient Ionan? or the Maya or the Egyptians?
and let's not forget Galileo....Ya Christianity has done wonders for Astrophysics....NOT!
Canaximander 2 years ago
Early Christians lead the way for Science, Astronomy and Astrophysics. Sure, Mayans and Egyptians had a hand in it too. But there is no denying that the first scientists were Christians.
Isaac Newton
Kepler
Galileo
Louis Pasteur
Not a bad start?
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
@KiwiChristian "Why" is most certainly a science question and anyone who says it isn't hasn't been paying attention to evolutionary branches of all the physical sciences over the last fifty years or so. "WHY" is the fundamental building block of "HOW".
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone But the "How" can be discovered and tested independent of any "Why" aspects. I have yet to see a scientific experiment that details the "Why" question, only the "how" or mostly the "what".
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian I suppose it depends on what you consider a "why" question, doesn't it? When asked "why" people act the way they do, I generally point to evolution. But you could just as easily ask "how" they end up with such behaviors, couldn't you. "Why", "How"? Is there a difference?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone "How" or "Why" humans do what they do is hardly a scientific question. I am talking about "why" do two body's of mass attract each other. Gravity answers the "what-is-happening" question but not the "why". Light is both wave and partial, science cant answer "why" but can tell us "what" and "how" it can be both.
Quote Dr G Liston PhD "To be able to describe something we need to say what it does, to be able to understand something we need to say why it doesn't do something else."
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian Of course it's a scientific question. Whether it has a scientific answer remains to be seen. As for questions concerning why, I think Gravity answers the appropriate "why" questions quite nicely. The implied necessity to answer why every single thing isn't something else as a prerequisite for understanding is just damned silly.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone Ok, so "why" do two bodies attract?
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian To extrapolate from Dr. Liston's thought process ... Why not?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone indeed.
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian BTW ... Who the hell is G. Liston?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone Dr. G Liston PhD is my Pastor. You can read his doctoral thesis online (google The Atomic Trampoline Cavity - Youtube wont let me post the link)
If you into quantum physics you might enjoy it, i know i did.
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
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@MrMZaccone But the "How" can be discovered and tested independent of any "Why" aspects. I have yet to see a scientific experiment that details the "Why" question, only the "how" or mostly the "what".
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
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@KiwiChristian "Another thing, science and God are not mortal enemies"
Relgion and science are mortal enemies-- remember it was the catholic church who burnt thousands of "scientist" alive becuase they disagreed with the church
badpanda84 1 year ago
HELL YEA Fuck that God that bitch aint real
night2010 2 years ago
Great video! And great point!
Religion HAS done nothing for us,
Science HAs done something for us, that's a big difference
vebbto 2 years ago
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All is inside our interacting brain hemispheres; right=parallel processor, left=serial. This (and prob the double helix structure of DNA) creates duality thinking and perception, e.g., polarity, matter/antimatter, yin/yang, etc. Right brain is sensitive to external waves, while left interprets them to comport with our senses; hence the illusion of sequentiality (time), for example. Everything "exists" in an eternal, pulsating, spherical wave singularity. Such is likely the physics of Reality.
AbookOfverse 2 years ago
your computer must be out dated or got a virus..that was man made. same with this internet your on..god didnt make this, but same with wars and the death toll rise on earth its, all man made..
VEX519 2 years ago
@VEX519 The important part is that god is man made, that pretty much sums it up.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
This must be a joke, because it's too stupid to swalow. I don't believe man can be so stupid. Anyway, I asked the computer today how much is 2+2X2, and it told me it was 6. When was the last time you calculated 2+2X2 ? You never did that, did you, LOOSER !
VerystrangeMaster 2 years ago
These machines and probes and rockets are insignificant specks in the scope of the universe, and so are you! Unless, of course, and this is true: God cares enough about creation and especially human beings to come to earth and re-establish a broken relationship with humanity.
In the scope of the universe, you are meaningless, but to God, you are a friend, no matter how hard you've tried to be an enemy. When Jesus Christ loved his enemies, he made them friends!
HoDoulosTouTheou 2 years ago
"These machines and probes and rockets are insignificant specks in the scope of the universe" - Actually, your opinions are. See, whilst the machine, probe and rocket are insignificant bits of matter within the universe, the actual understading of how to make these machines, probes and rockets is of the universe itself. We would not have any of them working unless we really understood the universe. So they very much ARE THE UNIVERSE....
mattyabsley 2 years ago
Your religion was built on lies violence hatred robbery pagan ideas and traditions and communism you fuckin Christians make me sick with your stupid quotes from the "holy" bible remember you dam those who don't believe in what you believe in to hell so i guess all native Americans and African tribes are goin to hell
night2010 2 years ago
well said
KiwiChristian 2 years ago
Yet you believe we came from dirt.
xGothimox 2 years ago
You believe women came from a guy's rib.
BMBaccount 2 years ago
umm no.. im an atheist, i dont believe that whole jesus/ god bullshit
xGothimox 2 years ago
The world is turning aethiest give it another half a century and the notion of god will be wiped from the smug faces of religious followers.
Darrknox 2 years ago
Thats great=)
night2010 2 years ago
Theists would argue God made all that stuff in the first place. Isn't it harder to conceive of DNA than simply sequence it? I don't find the approach of this video effective. God will disappear as our scientific understanding removes his last holdouts - abiogenesis and the origin of the universe. Religion's had at least 4,000 years, science only a few hundred (modern science even less). You think in 3,700 years there will still be a debate? Like many, though, I'm impatient.
tocrooks 2 years ago
Jesus was a healer? Why couldn't his followers heal small pox, malaria and all the other diseases that plagued us? Why did they wait for science to find a cure?
Even if we do 'worship' science, it's well deserved because churches have done nothing for us besides take our money and give us stupid laws to live by.
ambir 2 years ago
proton collider = epic win
Davotheravo123 3 years ago
nice vid, people realy need to wake up and leave the whole god thing in the past where it belongs, we have learned so much as a species and continuing to believe in god is a waste of all that hard work and knowlege.
spacecoke 3 years ago
I want to print your comment on a T shirt and wear it to a church LOL
GodKillerAtheist 3 years ago
Beautiful video.
Science, logic and reason shall prevail. Annuit Coeptis.
Edward1589 3 years ago
wake up you fucking retards!!
There is no fucking god!!!!
If there's any intelligent life it would be aliens from another world & would not be of human form.
boziccoven 3 years ago 2
too right dude too right
aldin247 3 years ago
God created the whole Universe so man,another creation,could have things to explore.
CBALLEN 3 years ago
So he just plopped it in there just to give us something to do? Didn't give a thought to about how its laws (physics, biology, etc) effect us every day? Your god is an idiot then.
Blekman1 2 years ago
Science for the win! Epic win in fact.
JmkLcAeJsm 3 years ago
We were mindless apes then a black monolithe appeared from no where and it gave us intellegence.
SynxVII 3 years ago 2
the "achievments" of man will never compare to the achievments of God, and what he has done for us. and yet, we give him nearly nothing in return.
donkeypoo99 3 years ago
Have given him nothing in return? We've given him centuries of our finest minds, who'd rather slave over a book and its fables than the natural world around him. We've given him thousands of years of female oppression. We've given him the lives and souls of crusaders, martyrs and fanatics, who've died over an idea...
If you ask me, what more can he demand of us?
AnAppleADei 3 years ago
Yes, their actions do pollute the knowledge of mankind, and retards those who encounter them. Thank God that we have educated people how do not believe their nonsense.
omiteru 3 years ago
God gave us free will. He gave us a mind to choose our path a mind to change what we can or ignor what we don't want to change. A desire to explore. Just because man did something doesn't negate the existance of God. Because we can accomplish anything is proof enough that there is something more(God) or some other higher power.
smokey36bear 3 years ago
God didn't give us free will we evolved with it.
Actually, man's development of radioactive dating pretty much disproved god.
jesuriah 3 years ago
i'm not saying we didn't evolve. radioactive (carbon) dating does is tell how old something is NOT where it came from.
smokey36bear 3 years ago
The evidence, so far at least, shows no need for a creator. It is a faulty story logic. Perfect being makes imperfect creations, then blames them for their shortcomings. Pretty lame and arrogant if you ask me. No sorry, all gods are an anthropomorphism.
Canaximander 3 years ago
Its only in your mind you dick head.
35ams 3 years ago
there is one true god . . . Alan Shearer
yakedup 3 years ago
because of ALIENS!
Ompaloompa99 3 years ago
We can only hope that change will come from within. If you feel passionate about doing something to stop this there are options. Options, I might caveat, that do not include violence. I have chosen to befriend the sheeple and work to show them truth where and when I can. If that is not how you will fight, then good fortune in how you do choose to. I agree there is a "Them" but I choose to learn and teach and have no idea how "we" would fight "them". To me there is only Us.
Canaximander 4 years ago
Got any suggestions on how to fix this? Other than of course having an educated, healthy, happy populace instead of an ignorant, sickly, frightened populace?
Canaximander 4 years ago
Saw Loose Change, Zeitgeist, et all. Just not enough real evidence. You want to fight for an investigation, go ahead. But the claims are just too large put forth in those videos. I don't 100% believe the TV story either, but there's large claims and little evidence.
Canaximander 4 years ago
So, you're a Luddite? Blow up the power plants, send us back to the stone age? Ya that'll make us more civilized. Nuclear reactors can make energy and medicine or we can use it to make bombs. I wanted 9/11 to be an inside job too, but it just wasn't, unless you claim the hijackers were CIA plants.
Canaximander 4 years ago
I researched the same thing and for a while I was convinced too. Then I started talking to people at universities and found it's just not true. You can see the moon-car, the mirrors, you can. Now if you want to discuss the film being fake, I'm open to that. Radiation prob ruined the original film so....
Canaximander 4 years ago
1) We have walked on the moon. There's a ton of evidence including being able to see the damn mirrors they put there.
2) I agree, god lives in the wheelbarrow of our ignorance.
3) We are part of nature.
Canaximander 4 years ago
Your Gods have done nothing but create life and death. We as people try desperatly to advance the quality and longevity of both. 1000's of years ago our teeth killed us. In my opinion the universe is the birth of what is to be a god. It just might be triilions of years yet to go. Nobody will ever know.
JimTL1000R 4 years ago
The concept of Gods has not created life, but death. Science is the only philosophy agreed upon by everyone. (well, almost) It's our only way of thinking that can change, be happy to wrong and work for the good of the species. Religion has created mass communal neurosis.
Canaximander 4 years ago
true.
JimTL1000R 4 years ago
ahhaha this is not my video!
I said so in the description box :)
This is a video from the great thunderfoot!
xJediHowieX 4 years ago
Opps, my bad. I just loved it so much I got excited. I'll fix it. Still, big fan of your work.
Canaximander 4 years ago
From what is that "EVERYONE" clip?
eatenmyeyes 4 years ago
The Professional, starring Jean Reno. Classic shoot em up movie, and actually based on a sub-plot of a Colombo episode.
Canaximander 4 years ago
It has been a while since I have seen that. I didn't know about the Colombo thing but Luc Besson knows a good story when he sees it.
eatenmyeyes 4 years ago
In the Colombo episode, a female movie/TV exec submits "The Professional" to her boss/lover who says it's too violent and is worried about the girl being in love with him and her being 12. So strange for it just pop up like that, but ya, great movie.
Canaximander 4 years ago
nice vid, thanks for reposting it!
menotyou66 4 years ago 2
Actually religion has accomplished one thing in the past 1000 years: constant conflict and war.
Kailoa36 4 years ago 4
Yep not a single miracle in there. Those were all accomplished through hard labor and gifted minds. It would be nice if Hovind would maybe pray for a cool new technology or something for once. Now that would be something. But noooooo...
ifthentherefore 4 years ago 2