California High-Speed Trains: Wasco, CA

[LegoMovieMan44]

OMG CANT WAIT FOR THIS!!!

[LegoMovieMan44]

Please tell me this is here already?

[xr6lad]

Conceptional is all it ever will be. When it comes to high speed rail most Californians wouldn't know their ar*e is on fire....they wont pay taxes to IMPROVE anything but still moan everything is falling down.

[sideslide23]

let me tell you something, what happened if the Gas price hits $5.00 here and it would cost you $50 to $125 to fill your car up with fuel. and some of you may not ever drive again because Newer cars that starts at $12,000 will hit $120,000 some day, and airlines ticket at $76 each way will be $750 each way per person, and Cheese Burger that you buy at Mcdonnal for $1.00 will be $11.00 per cheese burger. so its time to prepare for the future.

[mard420]

@sideslide23 ha ha ha 5$ a gallon, no way! bite me, i live in Canda, with an at par dollar and I already pay that much!

[sideslide23]

@mard420 $100 Billion goodluck, its more likely to be canceled before we reach September of 2012.

[mard420]

@sideslide23 its 5$ a gallon in Canada....SO WHAT?

[sideslide23]

@mard420 I was talking about the cost to build the entire system from San Fransisco to LA even though the authority are trying to find a cheaper ways and cheaper route. not the cost of fuel. Aviation fuels at Mesa Falcon Field Airport is $6 per gallon.

[tickyul]

I just cannot believe that CaliforniaTARDS voted for light rail. Well then again, maybe I can. If you think the USPS and Amtrak are STINKING BLUE ELEPHANTS that lose money each year, you aint seen nothin yet. The cost for the line from San Fran to LA is supposed to cost....what, 40 billion? And it is not allowed to use any public money to build..HAHA! When it is running, the private company running it will get a GAURANTEED rider level per year (government subsidy), or at least that is the rumor.

[paullubliner]

I want you guys to try to post multiple comments on this fiasco. After the normal number of comments you will be required to as usual "renew" your signing in. BUT AFTER A FEW MORE YOU WILL HAVE TO GET OUT OF YOOTOOB AND START FROM SCRATCH.

Never had that happen before:

WHO IS NUMBER ONE? You are number 6.

[sideslide23]

they said that the construction could start early in 2011, or 2012, and I hate to announce in October of 2010, Star Tour will be closed.

[paullubliner]

It would appear you are all sheep.

[caisback18]

i live in Wasco CA, i have never seen that, hope to see it and use it soon :)

[jesca215]

i live in Wasco too!!

[cuttingwoodnow]

Which Japanese or French made train that california will use train?

[s2k997]

It isn't really known, but it is likely to be Japanese trains in the end. Although the TGV/AGV is faster and the articulation makes them safer in derailments; they'll end up going with something like the Shinkansen 700 series. I'd prefer the AGV myself, or even that new natively designed and made Korean KTX-II, that is a sweet train where they really went wild and off the board with the original TGV design and came out with something highly tailored to thier consumers following the ported KTX.

[Thibaultchannel]

The French one was bought, now I don't know if it'll be the one in California though. But on that simulation it is definetely the French one

[cuttingwoodnow]

French trainsets are probadly but due many Japanese cars in Cal. I live in small town with single UP line track I feel can't wait to see and listen new high-speed trains are come.

[DaaYay]

Correction:

cahighspeedrail (dot) ca (dot) gov

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[DaaYay]

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[carlallen2007]

Yes California needs it, after going to Los Angeles and unless you have a car you cant get anywhere, it been very good for California. I'm from the UK, who went to LA for a holiday.

[Seb675usa]

CA needs this... it would reduce the need to expand many CA airports and ease congestion on many roads.

[NC3D]

We use 3D Studio Max and Vray.

[alfathomas30]

America is addicted to private transportation, vis a vis....oil.

[paullubliner]

What about Hyrdogen Fuel Celled Electric Cars?

EVER HEARD OF THE "HONDA CLARITY" -- ANY OF YOU GENIUSES?

[s2k997]

What good is mass produced Hydrogen powered cars without a method to mass produce Hydrogen? Right now it consumes more electricity to make Hydrogen in a fuel-form to run things off than it would to simply run the vehicles straight off the 'leccy. Absolutely pointless and unworkable on the mass market, unless you have a new way to cheaply mass produce Hydrogen.

[paullubliner]

The "good" is this:

1) NO DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL therefore no further funding of radical terrorists in that arena.

2) No air pollution, hence no contribution to "man made Global Warming" whether a reality or not.

3) A very real impetus to develop multiple layered and junctioned Photovoltaics and/or Iridium based Photovlotaics either or both yielding efficiencies well over 60% this by using the full spectrum of visible light, including U.V. which eliminates the "overcast" argument.

[s2k997]

4) Air pollution and electricity consumption goes through the roof. Air pollution to produce the extra electricity necessary, which would more than double most countries' electricity demands. Or did you seriously expect to solve all the world's problem in grand swoop (very idealistic and very unrealistic)?

5) Less energy efficient than simply booting the cars off electricity. The resources consumed in setting up a hydrogen infrastructure will be greater than hundreds of years of battery use.

[paullubliner]

4) The above is a "good" thing as 20,000 times total worldwide energy consumption falls on the earth in the form of sunlight every day. So as to cheaply produce electricity for all applications including Hydrogen production for fuel celled needs including and especially cars which is much preferable to any heavy metal, mass battery applications due toxic disposal/recycling issues of heavy metals (Hear that Tesla/Lotus drivers?)

[paullubliner]

And:

5) Massive reduction in political and economic sway of the "Oil Bidness."

This is going to be the future. If you deny it you are either in denial or a fool.

[s2k997]

But you still haven't answered: How do we cheaply produce Hydrogen? E.G. Your proposed 'economic model' won't work without this vital bit of actual science. It's nothing but fan cruft. You can't just pump electricity into a box and out comes Hydrogen; or did you think that's how it actually worked?! Until we have a way to make Hydrogen en mass, it is nothing more than a fairy tale, and I'll reilliterate that no good will come from another false hope without substance and method.

[paullubliner]

Since your acumen is exceeded by your verve:

Fuel cells or electrolysis may be used to "produce" (It's actually release) the most abundant element in the universe. That still not satisfy you? Then we can farm the hydrogen with algae on contained ponds.

[s2k997]

No. The Electrolysis method doesn't satisfy me, as it consumes more energy than can be gained from the hydrogen obtained!

[s2k997]

Seeing as you were ranting on about "the good" benifits that are potentially promised, lets go down "the bads" which are likely to happen.

1) No economic way to produce pure Hydrogen. Fuel prices will be hundreds if not thousands of times more expensive if this isn't resolved.

2) The ,ost common form of Hydrogen production consumes fossil fuels and water! Basically our most precious resources that we wanted to stop the use of, find thier usage increased!

[paullubliner]

We don't have to do it in a desert. There is still a domestic electrical "Grid." You've obviously not been to the Northeastern U.S. this past summer. Water is quite prevalent over much of the earth.

[paullubliner]

One final highly probably outcome;

The below would restore this country to the world's pole position in the economic race as well as technological inventiveness. I see you are not a creative type or a "problem solver" as you've pondered little of what I'd earlier posted with any understanding. This means you should keep quite as you tend towards following rather than leading through the power of creative thinking. Translated, you are little but a sheep.

[s2k997]

3) The perhaps most effecient and promising way to make Hydrogen is a nuclear reactor. Well isn't that swell, nuclear proliferation as a necessity. No need to pay poor regimes for thier oil, they'll have to be given nuclear technology, which can be used to blow themselves/us up. Access to nuclear technology becomes easier for terrorists, so your anti-terrorism arguement is a big fat FAIL.

[paullubliner]

Nuclear power as the most efficient? Says who? back that up. Have you personally got the bucks for the breeder reactors as in France? You are a follower not a creative thinker or problem solver.  I'd further venture that your use of "FAIL" pegs you as a thirty or under, obese, chin bearded never done a thing in his life type other than to blog and "World of Warcraft" or am I wrong? What have you invented or patented? Put up or shut up.

[s2k997]

Cool, when you run out of false science and half arsed ideas you result to personal attacks over the internet! :D

Regarding nuclear power as being seen as the most promising and efficient way to produce Hydrogen of the sufficient purity, it isn't my fault you haven't engaged in even the most cursory and basic background reading of what you're speaking about.

[paullubliner]

Google Iridium Based Solar cells and LEARN!

[s2k997]

And I do have a fine laugh that you tell me to use google to look up scientific terms, is that where you usually get your knowledge on this subject from then? No wonder you tried to tie in a piss-poor effort of an anti-terrorism arguement in support of Hydrogen as a fuel source.

I'd recommend you read proper sources, like the International Journal of Hydrogen Energy, spend more than five minutes reading it without declaring that you know better than published scientists, and learn properly.

[paullubliner]

Time to stop masturbating and get a life.

[s2k997]

FAIL. :D

[s2k997]

A source, as you asked for:

"Efficiency of hydrogen production systems using alternative nuclear energy technologies" published by the International Journal of Hydrogen Energy in 2006; written by the folks at MIT.

If you care to stop making snap judgements and look it up, the ball's in your court.

[paullubliner]

That in is their opinion. Believe it or not, hey are not the end all. You remain is simple herded sheep.

[s2k997]

Oh yes yes. You actually read the whole thing in under seven minutes in a fair manner before dismissing it, Wow! :P

You remain a stuck up know-it-all who thinks he knows better than anybody else, even the 'opinion' of nuclear physists and scientists cannot dare stand in the way of your divine declaration!

I guess I am a 'simple herded sheep'. Happier to be that than delusional, arrogant, insulting, depreciating; basically the qualities your attitude has been drenched in so far.

[JetHawk]

Well, if America could be more like Europeans or Asians, they would push for public transportation.

[alfathomas30]

Nice graphics there. Would you mind telling me what program you used? I am trying to learn computer based animation. THanks.