Allah wil punish dose who hav dne dys cheap inhumman brutual attack in such a devine place.. Allahumma la'an zalemeena lakum minal awwalina wal akhereen..
i am sunni and convert to shia ali mola after prophet muhammad {pbuh} is only and only ali mola 12 imam and imam zamana al mehdi pbuh allha akbar .. ali mola ali mola
MUSLIMS FALLOW ONLY THE SUNNA OF MUHAMED SCW. BECAUSE WE NEVER HEAR THE PROPHET GOING TO A SHRINE OF IBRAHIM, MOSES, CIISA, NUUH,. SO IF THE PROPHET DIDN'T DO THIS KIND OF THINKS WHY DO WE START SOME NEW. IF YOU ADD ANYTHING IN ISLAM, IT WILL NEVER BE EXCAPTED, PLEASE MUSLIMS, DO WHAT MUHAMED DID, AND DON'T DO WHAT HE DIDN'T DO. IS OUR DUTTY TO STOP ANY MUNKAR BY OUR HAND, IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, WE SHOULD STOP IT WITH OUR TANGUE, IF NOT HATE IT FROM YOUR HEART. ASSALU ALAYKUM.
@waqasr555 lanet on you to and if lanet is something bad i shuold say to you nacallah tullah calayk.. what ever mahamed calayhi salaatu wasallam didn't go to a shrine and make any dawaaf like mecca. and we muslims will never except such thing go try in afkhanistan somalia saudi arabi we will cut your neck off for trying something new to islam we will protect this religion from adding and subtracting from anything understand. ALLAHU AKBAR.
ALL SHRINES NEED TO BE DESTROY, BECAUSE SOME WEEK PEOPLE WILL WORSHIP IT. THAT IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE PICTURE OF PROPHET MUHAMED SCW. LIKE I SAID SOME WEEK PEOPLE WILL WORSHIP THE PICTURE TWO. SHRINES ARE AGAINST ISLAM. FOR EXAMPLE IN SOMALIA PEOPLE WERE GOING TO SOME SHEIKH SHRINE FOR KAHBA LIKE MECCA . THEY SAY WHY DO WE NEED MECCA. BECAUSE IS TOO FAR..
lol first off seince when was islam a religoen of only arabs isnt the Bukari who is the author of the greatiest book after the Glorious Quran in sunni belife for bukar usbakistan and he is not arabic speaking Abu hanifa numan and AL tamarde and even ibn taymmiyah arint arabs or arab speaking your kings in sudia arabia arint even arabs the are turks who go back to al bani turk who migrated to hijaz during the otman dynisty and who back stabbed Abu al hassan al hashime Walee al madian
The people that love our 8th Imam (AS) are relentless in not letting anything come between there true feelings towards the houshold of the Last Prophet (SAW) of Allah! Despite the evil acts of Shaitan and Devil Worshippers, that don't understand the ideology behind such pilgrimages, and acts of worship.
I can only pray for those martyrs that lost there lives during this horrible act.
All the memories of that sad day have come back to my mind after 16 years...I was present inside the shrine along with my wife and a small daughter that day...
I am an Indian and back in India all my family were worried for our safety..,
That was probably the first instance of Taliban like group's affair with bombs..world would see more of this in next 16 years....
it dose matters the companions of the prophet is an arab, true arabs has wisdom,,this is a reply against the shia people who keep saying that they are from the prophets family..for sunnies muslims then yes we are all muslims and only piety separates us..so if you are a sunni then you are spared but if you are an ignorant shia then..remember ali hasan and alusein were arabs and not hundoos who think they descendants of the prophet..
@Gravepunishment First of all, you are a stupid clown. Second, Sunnis are the debris of mankind. How so? Because they follow Umar, who is the greatest murderer of all time.
The true hypictites are those ignorant shia's worshipping humans and kissing thier graves.None arab sepakers..the companions of the prophet were arabs not these grave worshiping fools.Worship the Creater of the universe you fools
Whether you can speak Arabic or not will be of no significance on the Day of Judgement.
"the companions of the prophet were arabs"
Ever heard of one of the Prophet's greatest companion called 'Salman the Persian'?
Whether you are Arab or not does not mean anything in Islam. The Prophet (saw) has dozens of Hadiths where he says there is no difference between a Arab and a non-arab except in piety.
Drop your pan-Arabism and embrace the morals and teachings of Islam.
We are Paying respects to our Imams not worshiping them.
We know who we worship it's God. You tell me to stop cursing but when you call us grave worshiping fools isn't that a curse? When I see a false statement I get the urge to the truth. I did not say I am a better muslim. If you are smart enough to think that Youtube is made by Jews to create fitnah then why would you make a negative comment about us? by leaving negative comments you are participating in creating fitnah......
@Gravepunishment Shut up, clown. You worship your stupid Abu Bakr, Umar, and Osman, along with your God, who has hands. LOL! Sunnis=alcoholic-followers.
I am from Mashhad and realy sadened with what happend in my city and the shrine I respected so mucht. But isn't it what we moslim are doing all over the world in the name of god? I hope there would be a day that all humans can coexist in peace.
watching this video reminds me of that day ..i was only 8 years old and we were going to go there that day but something came up and we ended up not going and just watched the masacre on tv ...May Allah Bless All those peoples souls who were in this incident.
@atimra we were supposed to go there that day as well but my brother suddenly got sick and we didn't go. We weren't given the permission to become martyred that day.
very good video, but i guess 'ashura, with each time being more 'INTERESTING' than the last'... i guess interesting was maybe not the correct word to use there. if you are a shia u will understand the grave tradegy that happened on ashura and what greiviances were inflicted upon Imam Hussain, the third Imam and the grandson of the Holy Prophet.
Plz, don't get me wrong, it is an excellent video and i am very glad that you are doing this, keep it up. May Peace be upon you.
Allah 's damn and torment would be for ever on those who did this coward and savage act against the Imam's pilgrims , the martyrs soul would be always blessed and the people who did this coward act would see the consequences here, and definitely there place is in the deep hell with their leaders,who are waiting for their bastard offsprings
What part of one Allah and one God we don't understand. We are muslims and only worship Allah not some dead guy doesn't matter who he is even prophet mohammad (pbuh). Now lookin at these video it looks like we are worshipping these dead people just because they are from prophet mohammads's family.
and aas far as being prophet's family goes. how many decendents he might have right now. millions and millions. after all he had 4 daughters and some how only bibi fatima's kid got the title of syed. anywho just because of their ancestary they cannot goto heaven.
"prophet mohammad himself...you on day of judgement"
You are correct in what you say, the Quran states that son of Prophet Nuh and the wife of Prophet Lut were hypocrites.
However, the Family of the Prophet of Islam, the Ahlulbait (Ali, Fatima, Hassan & Hussein) are talked highly of in the Quran (33:33, 42:23, 25:57) and the Prophet himself called the Ahlulbait like the Ark of Noah and the Stars in the Night sky.
It is obligatory (fardh) for every muslim to love the Family of the Prophet as it states in the Quran:
"Say (Oh Muhammed): I do not ask of you any reward for it<u> but love for my near relatives(Ahl Al-Bayt)</u>..." (42:23)"
The son of Bibi Fatima was not declared "Master of the Youth of Paradise" (as recorded in the books of Sahih) for merely being the Grandson of the Prophet, rather it was his charachter and status that granted him such a position.
"it looks like we are worshipping these dead people just because they are from prophet mohammads's family."
That is your opinion since you say "it looks like", however if you had knowledge of what was going on in this video you would know no one worships the tomb of the Grandson of the Prophet, rather they visit it out of love for the Family of the Prophet
Well I see your point, but I found it alamring that only kids of Bibi Fatima are considered so highly. What ever happened to kids of Bibi Zainab, Bibi Umme Kulsoom, and Bibi Ruqaiyah. The other three daughters of Prophet Mohammad. They be part of Ahulaibait too. Usman (PBUH) had two of them in his nikkah (one by one) and they had kids too. Whatever happened to them. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would never play favorites. Its either all of them at equal level or none of them.
To prove what I have said I will narrate to you the Event of Mubahala, where the Prophet challenged the Christians of Najran and said: "Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people" (Quran 3:61) It is narrated by Sahih Muslim that the Prophet took Hassan & Hussayn as his 'sons', Fatima as his 'women' and Ali as his 'near people'.
Yet you didn't answer my question but other three daughters. That was one event where he picked Bibi fatima' family. This doesn't pove that families of other three daughters were not as important. He had to pick one so picked them. inspite of this he would have treated all four daughters and their families the same.
The Prophet of Islam specified who exactly were his Ahlulbayt and also stressed that matrimonal relationship did not determine the Ahlulbayt, rather it was the great charachters which did.
I think you need to understand that every person has his own spiritual level, and you cannot 'bunch' everyone together in the same group. One person may be greater than the other, and by putting them all alongside each other, you may be downplaying their great and exalted characters.
I thought the whole debate was about the house of mohammad or family of mohmmad (PBUH) which determoned the respect they are recieving. now you are saying it wasn't the relationship but chracter. Please make up your mind. and I am not talking about the matremonial relationship but relation by blood i.e. Propet Mohammad and his FOUR not one but FOUR daughters.
The other daughters (Zainab, Ruqayya & Umme Kulthoom) were not the daughters of Muhammad and Khadija; in fact, they were not even the daughters of Khadija by any earlier marriage; they were the daughters of a (widowed) sister of Khadija. Khadija's sister also died, and upon her death, she brought the three girls into her own house and brought them up as her own children.
Well i was thinking you might go that route. Just because these so called mullahs did not had any basis of downgrading the other three daughters, they came up with the idea of saying that they were not even his daughters.
If the Prophet had other biological daughters, can you bring me one narration where these daughters (Zainab, Umme Kulthoom & Ruqayyah) claimed inheritance after the Prophet died?
Why isit that Lady Fatima only recieved the Land of Fadak?
All the other daughters died in prophet's life. neither one of them was alive at his death. So how would they claim any inheritance. As far as their kids goes. They have been conviniently deleted from the Islamic history.
These three ladies (PBUT) were just as much his daughters as Bibi Fatima. Otherwise why would Prophet Mohammad would give the title of Zun-Nurain to Usman (PBUH). He was the holder of two noors (two daughters of prophet mohammad) Why the concept of two caliph being his father-in-laws and other two his son-in-laws. Why at the death of Bibi Um-e-Kulsoom prophet mohmmad said that if I had another daugter I woud give her Usman's nikah.
The story of these three ladies not being Prophet's daughter is as fabricated as the whole story of Ali being the rightful Caiph at the death of Prophet Mohammad (PBU all of them)
Regarding the title of Uthman 'possessor of the two lights'
According to your Scholars, the Holy Prophet was created out of mud just like any ordinary human being. If the Prophet of Islam is not 'Light' then how can Uthman become the possessor of 'Two Lights'? How can this then be used as an excuse that he married the 'supposed' two daughters of Muhammad?
The word "noor" does not say that either Prophet mohammad or his daughters were made of light or noor. The word noor means, Usman (PBUH) had two daughters prophet, two love of prophet's life and two lights of prohet's eyes. we call our own kids light of our life, eyes and heart. the word noor is used in same context.
The famed title of Uthman 'Dhul Nurayn' coming from the mouth of the Prophet (s) is not present in any of the six esteemed works of Ahl'ul Sunnah (Sahih Bukhari, Muslim, Sunan Al-Sugra, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan al-Tirmidhi and Al-Muwatta)
Also by going with character, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) had already said that Usman (PBUH)'s chracter was better than Ali (PBUH). The ten people Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) given the news of heaven (Ushra-ul-Mubashira) were Abu-Bakar, Umar, Usman then Ali and so forth and so forth and yeah Amir Mawiyah (PBUH) (Father of Yazeed) was one of those ten too.
The Hadith of the ten people promised Paradise is one of the biggest fabricated Hadith of all time.
Most of the people listen in the Hadith were staunch enemies of each other for example in the Battle of Jamal Ali killed Talha & Zubayr. How can a 'believer' kill another 'believer'? Doesnt the Quran preach against this?
Also this Hadith fails to include the Great Companions such as Abu Dhar, Bilal, Ammar Yasir, Malik Ashtar...etc
Well i think u just ageed a while back that Bukhari and Muslim are sahih from cover to cover now u r saying that this hadith is fabricated. U just went back ur own words. The story of that war is fabricated not the Ushr-ul-Mubashira.
No my friend, I quoted your (the Sunni Aqeeda) belief of Bukhari and Muslim.
The Shia view of Hadith Collection is that no book can be called 'Sahih' from cover to cover, whereas the Sunni view of Bukhari and Muslim is that it is Sahih from cover to cover.
Well see here's where the problem is. as you can tell I m sunni but i don't think any of these books are sahih. they were not written till 100s of year after porphet's death how can they be sahih. they all full of fabicated hadiths. if you cannot prove something out of Quran, i will not belive it. now as none of wht i said is directly prsent in quran and hence could be wrong but so as everything you said is out of hadiths and not quran so that could and for sure is wrong (Wulahul elm)
What you have said regarding the Hadith collections is exactly what we Shia believe, great proportions have been fabricated to suit the Umayyad rulers of the time.
Dont you think the Prophet should have had the knowledge and fore-sightedness to appoint a successor that would protect his teachings (Sunnah)?
Well finally we agree on something. The only problem is that its partial agreement. We believe that all the problems started in Abbasid era after khilafut moved in Baghdad. While you it was in Ummayaad era. As long as that issue stand neither one can convince the other. you will always find proof of wht you say in ur books and i will find proofs in mine.
Although the Abbasid claimed legitimacy to power by their familial connection to Muhammed, they consisted of many unjust and oppresive rulers, for example Harun Rashid.
Ok friend, I think we have done enough debate on this topic. I m not accepting my defeat and do not expect same from you. But I think its about time we both go to out respective corners with any hard feelings. you have right to ur believes and i have right to mine.
you have been a good debater and it was fun and a learning experience. we dont have to agree with each other but we boh sure did learned abt each other. By the way i saw another video by you regarding Saudi faults in Iraq and i completely agree with you on that one. By the people do call me Wahabi because of my believes (I don't as i find a lot wrong with them too) you can call me an outcast muslim.
I thank you from this talk and I praise you in your ability in not insulting me nor cursing me in harsh manners, something which others are often unable to do.
If you follow the teachings of Mohammed ibn Abdul Wahhab, then it would be clear to say you are a 'Wahhabi'
If you are happy with your Faith and believe you are in total submission to Allah and those who Allah has appointed in authority (4:69), then I wish you all the best in the Future.
Buddy, u call urself muslim and i call myself muslim that makes us brothers and i will never curse my brother out. I think the whole problem we (muslims) are facing right now is that we become defensive and starts swearing and threatning people out if they say anything wrong about out belives
that cursing and threatning also shows why nonmuslims consider us evil and murderers. I have read comments on this site like "i will kill you for saying that u ****. islam is a rligion of peace" i read that comment and thought wow thts stupid. I belive in debate not violance every issue can solved by debate and without vilance
The merits of Lady Fatima are not limited to the Hadith books. The actions of Lady Fatima were the reason why Chapter 76 was revealed. It is agreed on by all Scholars that when Hassan and Hussein were ill, the Prophet had told Lady Fatima to observe a fast as a promise to Allah to heal them. Allah tested their patience for three days by making three different people test them at the time of breaking their fast.
"Surely the righteous shall drink of a cup the admixture of which is camphor.....<u>And they give food out of love for Him to the poor and the orphan and the captive</u>....But Allah will deliver <b>them</b> (Fatima, Hassan & Hussein) from the evil of that Day, <u>and will shed over them a Light of Beauty and (blissful) Joy</u>" (76:5-11)
Buddy, i nver questioned merits of Bibi Fatima and I never would. I questioned the fact that why were other daughters did not receive the same merit and even if you are right that Bibi Fatima had higher status in front of Allah. who give us the right to diffrenciate between the four daughters. we should treat all four of them the same. becuse even if they were not as important as bibi Fatima they are still million times better than you and me
It was Abbasid era when these books were published not Ummayyad. Umaayaad dynasty ended in 750 AD and sahih bukhari was published in 800s AD. My years might not be accurate but are in correct ball park figure.
Usman (PBUH) was given the title of Zunurain (One who has two noors) yet somehow him or his family never are remmebred in the same manner as Ali (PBUH) and his kids. Some people even consider him, Abu Bakar (PBUH) and Umar (PBUH) the enemies of Islam and murderers of Bibi Fatima. You know who these poeple are. So unless, you can treat the kids of all four daughters equally, don't tell me that you are following Allah's order of respecting Prophet's family.
The reason the sons of Ali have been held in such high esteem was because it was for them (Ali, Hassan, Hussein & Fatima) the verse: "Allah wishes to remove all filth and impurity from you O House of the Prophet, and to render you utterly free of pollution." (Quran 33:33)
According to Hadith narrated by Lady Ayesha found in the Sahih of 'Imam' Muslim, this verse was indeed narated for Ali, Fatima, Hassan & Hussayn.
Somehow i think this Hadith is fabricated. Unless Quran says that Bibi Fatima's family is far more superior than families of other daughters of prophet mohammad. I would not believe it. Prove that to me and i will leave ur false opinon alone.
The Quran states in 33:33 that the 'Household of the Prophet have been purified'
Hadith in the books of Bukhari and Muslim, whom according to the respected belief of the Ahle-Sunnah are 'Sahih' (Authentic) from cover to cover indicate that the 'Household' referred to in the ayat 33:33 are Fatima, Ali, Hassan & Hussain.
Fatima & her sons were the holy people spoken about in Chapter 76 Verse 7-10 when they fed the poor with the only food they had.
last but not least, Allah himself said that you can do sijdah to anyone else but to him so if these people are not worshipping the dead, and are just showing their respect, why the Sijdah at the enterance?? When the messangers of Pophet went to see King of Rome they even refuse to bow their bodies because to them bowing to anyone else beside Allah (even out of respect) was wrong.
The sajdah (prostration) at the entrance of the shrine was to thank Allah (swt) for the ability to visit the Sacred Sanctities and was in no way directed towards the tomb.
Those pilgrims have travelled hundreds and thousands of miles to visit the shrine of the Grandson of the Prophet, after reaching the shrine they are overwhelmed with emotions and praise for Allah, so they do prostration before they enter to thank Allah for allowing them the ability to do so.
Unless when they do sajdah they are facing Kabah and the grave is not in front of them the sjadah is wrong. As they arew doing sajdah at the entrance the grave would be in front of them and hence it is worng
I am not saying they are not facing kabah, nut the grave should not be in fron of them. That's why if someone is praying you dont pass in front of them unless ur in jammat and praying with them. So if they are facing Kabah but the grave is in front of them then the Sajdah is mukruh
The person Mr. Brojerdi ran from this evil regime and he said at the time he was working for Islamic goverment and he was ordered by the Mullahs to do this you are fast sleep behind the wheel.
No muslim would even think about bombing the shrine of the Family of the Prophet.
Ayatollah Boroujerdi is a strong critic of the Iranian Government, however he is a Shia "Ayatollah" who believes in the purity of the Family of the Prophet, he would never carry out such an attack on the people who he follows.
Please quote from a source or bring evidence if you are truthful. Thankyou
According to the Shia School of Thought every doctrine/belief should be able to be found in the Quran, as the Quran is the ultimate book of Guidance for muslims and non-muslims alike, in which the Divine Scriptures of the Injil, Taurat and Zaboor can be found.
Regarding Hadiths, if the Hadiths contradict the Holy Quran in any way what so ever, they then must be "thrown against the wall"
For example, Allah revealed to us the Prayer, so we have Hadith about the Prayer...SO LONG AS the Hadith does NOT contradict the Quran
I agree with you brother TomSolivin that there are many Hadith which have been man-made, and the way we know that they are man-made is because the Hadith contradict the Quran. Hence why we should use the Quran as a "Judge" when we want to filter correct Hadith from fabricated Hadith .
[39:45] When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others **(emam? profits?) are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
[6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book**. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.
"When you pray Fajr Salaat, how many rakaats do you pray? As this is not mentioned in the Quran and can only be found in Hadith. WHAT????????????????????Kofr!
17, 18, &[25:19] They have disbelieved in the message you have given them, and, consequently, you can neither protect them from the retribution they have incurred, nor can you help them in any way. Anyone among you who commits evil, we will commit him to severe retribution.
[10:28] On the day when we summon them all, we will say to those who worshipped idols, "We have summoned you, together with your idols." We will have them confront each other, and their idols will say to them, "We had no idea that you idolized us.
I seek protection in Allah from your erroneous claims
Imam Reza is the Grandson of the Holy Prophet, and the Eighth Imam of the Shia. No one worships Imam Reza, but we respect him (Imam Reza) as he is Allahs representative on the Earth.
"O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end" (4:59)
Who are the people "vested in authority" that Allah orders us to obey?
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
" An army statement said the bombing in the north-eastern city of Mashad was an attempt by what it called the seditious gang of Saeed Emami and Mostafa Kazemi to derail official investigations into the murders of a series of intellectuals in Iran last year."- BBC
The Followers of the Ahlulbayt (Shia) believe that every doctrine and foundation of belief should be found in the Quran, if not then the belief should be abandoned. Hadith are also very important so long as they do not contradict the Holy Quran, and if they do contradict the Holy Quran, then "throw the hadith against the wall".
You claim not to follow hadith and only the Quran. I respect your belief, but tell me, In salaat where do you position your arms, on your chest or by your side? [Please bring Quranic proof for your answer]
Since it was not covered in Quran,it is not of importance. Therefore it should not matter where your hands are placed; by your side or in a holding position. But I can tell you that this one is covered; [5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles
No where in the Ayat (5:6) does it say "wash" your feet to the ankle. The three prominent Quran translation (Shakir, Yusufali, Pickthall) have not put the word "wash" directly in to the ayat as there is no arabic word for wash in the exact quranic verse.
"...and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles" (Shakir)
"...Rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles" (Yusufali) [Please notice, Yusufali has put the "wash" in brackets as it is not found in the arabic verse]
"...and lightly rub your heads and (wash) your feet up to the ankles" (Pickthall) [Please notice, again, that "wash" has been put in brackets, as once again this Quranic translator fails to find the verb "wash" in the arabic text]
So, from these three translators, we can see that the word "wash" cannot be found in the arabic text, and I ask you to correct me if I am wrong by showing me the arabic word for "wash" in Verse 6 of Chapter 5.
You have said: "Prophet Muhammed did not know the future"
The Holy Quran [the Glorious Book which you say you staunchly follow] says:
"These tidings of Unseen, We reveal to you. Neither you did know nor your people before this. Then be patient. No doubt there is good for the duty-bound." (11:49)
"How will Mohammed recognize those who deserve his intercession?" concept; a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform him that the person deserves to go to Paradise. He will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad? God be glorified.
"He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede EXCEPT for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble" (21:28)
"No intercession can avail in His Presence, EXCEPT for those for whom He has granted permission" (34:23)
"And those whom they call upon besides Him have no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know (him)." (43:86)
This is not idolatry or polytheism. Idolatry is worshipping an object or image which you regard as God. No one in their right minds regards the Holy Prophet as God, this is ludicrous.
Intercession in no ways lowers the position of Allah (swt) the Exalted and Praiseworthy. Allah has given the ability to intercede to those "...who has made a covenant with the Beneficent Allah." (19:87)
The reason Muslim are killing Muslims, is because of all I said!
Quran: Is The ONLY Source
[17:46] We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion.
[5:69] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, and the Christians; any of them who (1) believe in GOD and (2) believe in the Last Day, and (3) lead a righteous life, have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
This is precisely what happened after the prophet Muhammad's death; Hadith (oral) and Sunna (actions) were invented and attributed to the Prophet. Hadith and Sunna are satanic innovations because they:
The Quran's mathematical miracle provides mathematical evidence that the Quran shall be our only source of religious teachings. Here are just 2 examples:
1. "We did not leave anything out of this book," is in Verse 38 (19x2) and consists of 19 Arabic letters (6:38). 2. "He sent down this book fully detailed," is in Verse 114 (19x6) and consists of 19 Arabic letters (6:114).
[1] defy the divine assertions that the Quran is complete, perfect, fully detailed, and shall be the only source of religious guidance (6:19, 38, 114 & 45:6-7),
[2] blaspheme against the Prophet and depict him as a vicious tyrant who did not uphold the Quran, and
[3] create false doctrines based on superstition, ignorance, and indefensible nonsensical traditions. The prophet Muhammad was enjoined, in very strong words, from issuing any religious teachings besides the Quran (69:38-48).
then, with the same token, Iask you to study thi site -- at list for 90 days; becuase if the secrets of quran is revealed by anyone in eighty-some ways, give each at least a day before judging. After all you cannt accept and use parts of einsten's theory E=mc2 and reject other parts of it.
We learn from the Quran that Abraham, God's beloved servant, could not intercede on behalf of his father (9:114). Noah could not intercede on behalf of his son (11:46). Muhammad could not intercede on behalf of his uncle (111:1-3) or relatives (9:80). What makes anyone think that a prophet or a saint will intercede on behalf of a perfect stranger?! See 2:48, 123; 6:51, 70, 94; 7:53; 10:3; 19:87; 26:100; 30:13; 32:4; 36:23; 39:44; 40:18; 43:86; 53:26 & 74:48. Muhammad's intercession is in 25:30.
Your concept of Intercession is mistaken and obscured.
Intercession is NOT for the enemies of Allah or Disbelievers. Intercession is for the Muttaqeen (the Pious), the people who strive in the way of Allah day and night, and whose remembrance of Allah is instilled in their heart.
Prophet Abraham could not intercede for his father because he was an enemy of Allah (9:114), Prophet Noah could not intercede for his son, because his son was a disbeliever who mocked Allahs threats. (11:42-45)
The concept of intercession is utterly illogical. Those who believe in Muhammad's intercession, for example, claim that he will ask God to forgive them and admit them into Paradise. They imagine Muhammad on the Day of Judgment choosing the candidates for his intercession. If you ask those who believe in intercession: "How will Muhammad recognize those who deserve his intercession?" they tell you, "God will tell him!"....
.....According to this concept, a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform Muhammad that the person deserves to go to Paradise. Muhammad will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad. God be glorified.
To believe that anyone, other than God, can intercede on our behalf to have our sins forgiven or our wishes fulfilled, is to set up partners with God. This is idolatry. The Quran proclaims that "All intercession belongs to God" (39:44), and that there will be "no intercession on the Day of Judgment" (2:254)
"The Quran proclaims that "All intercession belongs to God" (39:44), and that there will be "no intercession on the Day of Judgment" (2:254) "
The Quran also claims: "EXCEPT for those for whom He has granted permission" (34:23), no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know (him)." (43:86)
Shi'ism was started by a jew and it twisted the truth of islam. So there forth the people of the Sunnah are the righteous one's that Prft Muhamed Sahi wa asalam as promised.
"Oh you believe, if a transgressor comes to you with news, try to verify it, lest you inflict damage on people unwittingly; then you may consequently regret your hasty action. (ch. 49, v.6)
The Quran tells us to look into these false reports, less we harm people with our Ignorance.
The person who created this tale of "Abdullah ibn Saba", a Jew from Yemen that started Shi'ism has been called a "heretic" by 15 Sunni Historians, the most predominant being Abu Dawud
People are kneeling at the beginning of the video as they are eating food, people are kissing and rubbing the forehead on the ground as it is a sacred precint, the way one would kiss the ground near the Ka'ba. People are kissing the shrine the way one would kiss the Quran, as Hadith in the books of Sihah, Abu Dawud and Abu Sunnan given by the Prophet on the farewell pilgrimage indicate that the Ahlulbayt are equal to the Quran.
Go take a survey of the people who attended..i gaurentee you atleast 40% people dont even pray 5 times a day...Kissing the shrine and making duas there is poinltess. They arnt messengers, they are men, same like we dont say oh Mohammed help me...People should consider praying 5 times a day rather beliving that these men will ask God to remove thier sins...it doesnt work like that..if it did..people would commit sins all the time.
Ok, now using the above Quranic Ayats with the following Hadith,
The Holy Prophet has said: "My Shafa^ah (Intercession) is for the sinners of my nation" Related by ((((Abu Dawud in Sunan Abi Dawud/Intercession, at-Tirmithy in Jami^ at-Tirmithy/About Shafa^ah, Ibn Majah in Sunan Ibn Majah/About Shafa^ah, Ahmad in Musnad Ahmad 3/213, Ibn Hiban in sahih ibn Hiban/, At-Tabarany in Al-Mu^jam Al Kabeer 1/258, and Al-Khateeb in History of Baghdad 8/11.))))
And there are many others that I can mention that prove that we CAN do exactly the opposite of what you said, we CAN ask "Oh Muhammed help me..".
Prophet Muhammad intercedes and his intercession is under the will of Allah, it does not change the will of Allah nor does it overcome it, But Allah granted that intercession and by it, He will intercede for the sinners all by the will of Allah.
For more examples on why we CAN ask "Oh Muhammed help me ..." check out a video on youtube entitled: Sayed Ammar Nakshawani - Is Intercession a Form of Shirk?
Why would Muslims ask Mohammed for help over Allah...It is not Mohammed that naswers prayers..Its Allah...Why would anyone want to say Oh mohammed help me?...hes dead...but Allah does not die. Muslims can only ask Allah for help...and no one else..
"Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord" (3:67) Allah is telling us that those who die in the cause of Allah are NOT dead, they are alive, a concept that you yet need to understand.
" If they (sahaba) had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee(Muhammed) and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (4:64)It is the will of Allah that people should obey the Holy Prophet. If the sinners approach the Holy Prophet, he will speak on their behalf to Allah, because He has given him the authority to intercede on behalf of the repentant sinners.
well i am muslim too i agree with what you say but remember mohammad is not dead he is in heavon along with moses,abrahim,jesus,lut and the other messengers.
No one is prostrating directly to the grave, as this is one the biggest sins (gunnah-e-kabira) in Islam, and as you pointed out, we should prostrate to no other then Allah.
Allah wil punish dose who hav dne dys cheap inhumman brutual attack in such a devine place.. Allahumma la'an zalemeena lakum minal awwalina wal akhereen..
zamaali4 2 weeks ago
Very Poor Video Quality. It has Terrible Resolution.
peymaania 2 weeks ago
i am sunni and convert to shia ali mola after prophet muhammad {pbuh} is only and only ali mola 12 imam and imam zamana al mehdi pbuh allha akbar .. ali mola ali mola
waqasr555 8 months ago
nice video
crissam2 8 months ago
MUSLIMS FALLOW ONLY THE SUNNA OF MUHAMED SCW. BECAUSE WE NEVER HEAR THE PROPHET GOING TO A SHRINE OF IBRAHIM, MOSES, CIISA, NUUH,. SO IF THE PROPHET DIDN'T DO THIS KIND OF THINKS WHY DO WE START SOME NEW. IF YOU ADD ANYTHING IN ISLAM, IT WILL NEVER BE EXCAPTED, PLEASE MUSLIMS, DO WHAT MUHAMED DID, AND DON'T DO WHAT HE DIDN'T DO. IS OUR DUTTY TO STOP ANY MUNKAR BY OUR HAND, IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, WE SHOULD STOP IT WITH OUR TANGUE, IF NOT HATE IT FROM YOUR HEART. ASSALU ALAYKUM.
jahur101 9 months ago
@jahur101 lanet on you ..prophet go his family shrine ..so many time go study islam do not study abu hanif..
waqasr555 8 months ago
@waqasr555 lanet on you to and if lanet is something bad i shuold say to you nacallah tullah calayk.. what ever mahamed calayhi salaatu wasallam didn't go to a shrine and make any dawaaf like mecca. and we muslims will never except such thing go try in afkhanistan somalia saudi arabi we will cut your neck off for trying something new to islam we will protect this religion from adding and subtracting from anything understand. ALLAHU AKBAR.
jahur101 8 months ago
ALL SHRINES NEED TO BE DESTROY, BECAUSE SOME WEEK PEOPLE WILL WORSHIP IT. THAT IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE PICTURE OF PROPHET MUHAMED SCW. LIKE I SAID SOME WEEK PEOPLE WILL WORSHIP THE PICTURE TWO. SHRINES ARE AGAINST ISLAM. FOR EXAMPLE IN SOMALIA PEOPLE WERE GOING TO SOME SHEIKH SHRINE FOR KAHBA LIKE MECCA . THEY SAY WHY DO WE NEED MECCA. BECAUSE IS TOO FAR..
jahur101 9 months ago
@jahur101 if we go ahle muhammad shrine good for our eman..
waqasr555 8 months ago
WE MUSLIMS WE DON'T NEED TO WORSHIP SHRINE THAT IS NOT ISLAM, WE NEED TO WORSHIP ALLAH ONLY, DON'T MAKE SAME AS ALLAH TO NO IMAM.
jahur101 9 months ago
lol first off seince when was islam a religoen of only arabs isnt the Bukari who is the author of the greatiest book after the Glorious Quran in sunni belife for bukar usbakistan and he is not arabic speaking Abu hanifa numan and AL tamarde and even ibn taymmiyah arint arabs or arab speaking your kings in sudia arabia arint even arabs the are turks who go back to al bani turk who migrated to hijaz during the otman dynisty and who back stabbed Abu al hassan al hashime Walee al madian
hasseian313 1 year ago
Pray for these people
May Allah show us all the right path
CookingAmmi 1 year ago
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السلام عليك ياغريب الغربأ علي أبن موسى الرضا (ع)
666Octagon 1 year ago
Desperately waiting to be there...
batul78 2 years ago 2
The people that love our 8th Imam (AS) are relentless in not letting anything come between there true feelings towards the houshold of the Last Prophet (SAW) of Allah! Despite the evil acts of Shaitan and Devil Worshippers, that don't understand the ideology behind such pilgrimages, and acts of worship.
I can only pray for those martyrs that lost there lives during this horrible act.
And the return of awaited saviour (ATFS).
mrizvi0121 2 years ago 2
this documentary is not for everyone, and should perhaps have a disclosure.
mrizvi0121 2 years ago
I wish i was one of those who were martydom. To heaven inshallah.
316mostafa 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Religion is illness.
98dfk34h765 2 years ago
All the memories of that sad day have come back to my mind after 16 years...I was present inside the shrine along with my wife and a small daughter that day...
I am an Indian and back in India all my family were worried for our safety..,
That was probably the first instance of Taliban like group's affair with bombs..world would see more of this in next 16 years....
sarkarhaider 2 years ago
ridam be ghabresh ,
123kkambiz 2 years ago
be gabre to ridam pedarsag tule ridam to ghabre familat!
HKS134 2 years ago
Lost prophet???? where did he get lost? there is nationalisim between the people of hell and paradise
Gravepunishment 2 years ago
it dose matters the companions of the prophet is an arab, true arabs has wisdom,,this is a reply against the shia people who keep saying that they are from the prophets family..for sunnies muslims then yes we are all muslims and only piety separates us..so if you are a sunni then you are spared but if you are an ignorant shia then..remember ali hasan and alusein were arabs and not hundoos who think they descendants of the prophet..
Gravepunishment 2 years ago
There is no place for nationalism in Islam. If you fail to understand that, then there is nothing more I can do for you.
Peace be on You.
lostprophet786 2 years ago
@Gravepunishment First of all, who the hell are you to decide who is ignorant or not? Go follow your alcoholic Umar. LOL!
Second, the fact that the Imams were Arabs does not make Shiites ignorant, you nincompoop! Go educate yourself, idiot!
consuetudinariness 10 months ago
@Gravepunishment First of all, you are a stupid clown. Second, Sunnis are the debris of mankind. How so? Because they follow Umar, who is the greatest murderer of all time.
consuetudinariness 6 months ago
The true hypictites are those ignorant shia's worshipping humans and kissing thier graves.None arab sepakers..the companions of the prophet were arabs not these grave worshiping fools.Worship the Creater of the universe you fools
Gravepunishment 2 years ago
"None arab sepakers"
Whether you can speak Arabic or not will be of no significance on the Day of Judgement.
"the companions of the prophet were arabs"
Ever heard of one of the Prophet's greatest companion called 'Salman the Persian'?
Whether you are Arab or not does not mean anything in Islam. The Prophet (saw) has dozens of Hadiths where he says there is no difference between a Arab and a non-arab except in piety.
Drop your pan-Arabism and embrace the morals and teachings of Islam.
lostprophet786 2 years ago
You will find out on the Day of Judgment who is the true
hypocrites. Talk is cheap. Islam is not for Arabs only. Islam is for all mankind You stupid ignorant bitch !!!!
busx20 2 years ago
We are Paying respects to our Imams not worshiping them.
We know who we worship it's God. You tell me to stop cursing but when you call us grave worshiping fools isn't that a curse? When I see a false statement I get the urge to the truth. I did not say I am a better muslim. If you are smart enough to think that Youtube is made by Jews to create fitnah then why would you make a negative comment about us? by leaving negative comments you are participating in creating fitnah......
busx20 2 years ago
@Gravepunishment Shut up, clown. You worship your stupid Abu Bakr, Umar, and Osman, along with your God, who has hands. LOL! Sunnis=alcoholic-followers.
consuetudinariness 10 months ago
@Gravepunishment fuck off jew..go to watch your jew videos
HKS134 3 months ago
I am from Mashhad and realy sadened with what happend in my city and the shrine I respected so mucht. But isn't it what we moslim are doing all over the world in the name of god? I hope there would be a day that all humans can coexist in peace.
jb4700 2 years ago
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jb4700 2 years ago
لعنة الله على الوهابية أحفاد أبابكر وعمر الملعونين
mowaly4ali 3 years ago
im srry but what exactly happened im shia and i dont know wat hapened and i wasn to know ?
iranianboy7 3 years ago
Assalam Alaika Ya Abul Hasan Ya Ali Yabnul Mosa AlReza
TanuAvi 3 years ago 8
watching this video reminds me of that day ..i was only 8 years old and we were going to go there that day but something came up and we ended up not going and just watched the masacre on tv ...May Allah Bless All those peoples souls who were in this incident.
atimra 3 years ago 4
@atimra we were supposed to go there that day as well but my brother suddenly got sick and we didn't go. We weren't given the permission to become martyred that day.
PastareHaqq 1 year ago
those ppl were thugs may God curse them and abide them among the devils in the hell!!!!!
victoryoftruth 3 years ago 2
very good video, but i guess 'ashura, with each time being more 'INTERESTING' than the last'... i guess interesting was maybe not the correct word to use there. if you are a shia u will understand the grave tradegy that happened on ashura and what greiviances were inflicted upon Imam Hussain, the third Imam and the grandson of the Holy Prophet.
Plz, don't get me wrong, it is an excellent video and i am very glad that you are doing this, keep it up. May Peace be upon you.
HardChord 3 years ago
Allah 's damn and torment would be for ever on those who did this coward and savage act against the Imam's pilgrims , the martyrs soul would be always blessed and the people who did this coward act would see the consequences here, and definitely there place is in the deep hell with their leaders,who are waiting for their bastard offsprings
chimogi 4 years ago
i didnt see the part when he talked about the explosion im sorry to hear that
queenzillest 4 years ago
Mashallah... Ya Ali Madad
queenzillest 4 years ago 2
Assalam Alaika Ya Abul Hasan Ya Ali Yabnul Mosa AlReza
halllllooo123 4 years ago 3
What part of one Allah and one God we don't understand. We are muslims and only worship Allah not some dead guy doesn't matter who he is even prophet mohammad (pbuh). Now lookin at these video it looks like we are worshipping these dead people just because they are from prophet mohammads's family.
ddruf3 4 years ago
and aas far as being prophet's family goes. how many decendents he might have right now. millions and millions. after all he had 4 daughters and some how only bibi fatima's kid got the title of syed. anywho just because of their ancestary they cannot goto heaven.
ddruf3 4 years ago
prophet mohammad himself sad that ur family dont mean a thing it ur own deeds that will make you or break you on day of judgement
ddruf3 4 years ago
"prophet mohammad himself...you on day of judgement"
You are correct in what you say, the Quran states that son of Prophet Nuh and the wife of Prophet Lut were hypocrites.
However, the Family of the Prophet of Islam, the Ahlulbait (Ali, Fatima, Hassan & Hussein) are talked highly of in the Quran (33:33, 42:23, 25:57) and the Prophet himself called the Ahlulbait like the Ark of Noah and the Stars in the Night sky.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
It is obligatory (fardh) for every muslim to love the Family of the Prophet as it states in the Quran:
"Say (Oh Muhammed): I do not ask of you any reward for it<u> but love for my near relatives(Ahl Al-Bayt)</u>..." (42:23)"
The son of Bibi Fatima was not declared "Master of the Youth of Paradise" (as recorded in the books of Sahih) for merely being the Grandson of the Prophet, rather it was his charachter and status that granted him such a position.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
"it looks like we are worshipping these dead people just because they are from prophet mohammads's family."
That is your opinion since you say "it looks like", however if you had knowledge of what was going on in this video you would know no one worships the tomb of the Grandson of the Prophet, rather they visit it out of love for the Family of the Prophet
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Well I see your point, but I found it alamring that only kids of Bibi Fatima are considered so highly. What ever happened to kids of Bibi Zainab, Bibi Umme Kulsoom, and Bibi Ruqaiyah. The other three daughters of Prophet Mohammad. They be part of Ahulaibait too. Usman (PBUH) had two of them in his nikkah (one by one) and they had kids too. Whatever happened to them. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would never play favorites. Its either all of them at equal level or none of them.
ddruf3 4 years ago
To prove what I have said I will narrate to you the Event of Mubahala, where the Prophet challenged the Christians of Najran and said: "Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people" (Quran 3:61) It is narrated by Sahih Muslim that the Prophet took Hassan & Hussayn as his 'sons', Fatima as his 'women' and Ali as his 'near people'.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Yet you didn't answer my question but other three daughters. That was one event where he picked Bibi fatima' family. This doesn't pove that families of other three daughters were not as important. He had to pick one so picked them. inspite of this he would have treated all four daughters and their families the same.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The Prophet of Islam specified who exactly were his Ahlulbayt and also stressed that matrimonal relationship did not determine the Ahlulbayt, rather it was the great charachters which did.
I think you need to understand that every person has his own spiritual level, and you cannot 'bunch' everyone together in the same group. One person may be greater than the other, and by putting them all alongside each other, you may be downplaying their great and exalted characters.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
I thought the whole debate was about the house of mohammad or family of mohmmad (PBUH) which determoned the respect they are recieving. now you are saying it wasn't the relationship but chracter. Please make up your mind. and I am not talking about the matremonial relationship but relation by blood i.e. Propet Mohammad and his FOUR not one but FOUR daughters.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The other daughters (Zainab, Ruqayya & Umme Kulthoom) were not the daughters of Muhammad and Khadija; in fact, they were not even the daughters of Khadija by any earlier marriage; they were the daughters of a (widowed) sister of Khadija. Khadija's sister also died, and upon her death, she brought the three girls into her own house and brought them up as her own children.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Well i was thinking you might go that route. Just because these so called mullahs did not had any basis of downgrading the other three daughters, they came up with the idea of saying that they were not even his daughters.
ddruf3 4 years ago
Downgrading?
If the Prophet had other biological daughters, can you bring me one narration where these daughters (Zainab, Umme Kulthoom & Ruqayyah) claimed inheritance after the Prophet died?
Why isit that Lady Fatima only recieved the Land of Fadak?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
All the other daughters died in prophet's life. neither one of them was alive at his death. So how would they claim any inheritance. As far as their kids goes. They have been conviniently deleted from the Islamic history.
ddruf3 4 years ago
These three ladies (PBUT) were just as much his daughters as Bibi Fatima. Otherwise why would Prophet Mohammad would give the title of Zun-Nurain to Usman (PBUH). He was the holder of two noors (two daughters of prophet mohammad) Why the concept of two caliph being his father-in-laws and other two his son-in-laws. Why at the death of Bibi Um-e-Kulsoom prophet mohmmad said that if I had another daugter I woud give her Usman's nikah.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The story of these three ladies not being Prophet's daughter is as fabricated as the whole story of Ali being the rightful Caiph at the death of Prophet Mohammad (PBU all of them)
ddruf3 4 years ago
Regarding the title of Uthman 'possessor of the two lights'
According to your Scholars, the Holy Prophet was created out of mud just like any ordinary human being. If the Prophet of Islam is not 'Light' then how can Uthman become the possessor of 'Two Lights'? How can this then be used as an excuse that he married the 'supposed' two daughters of Muhammad?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
The word "noor" does not say that either Prophet mohammad or his daughters were made of light or noor. The word noor means, Usman (PBUH) had two daughters prophet, two love of prophet's life and two lights of prohet's eyes. we call our own kids light of our life, eyes and heart. the word noor is used in same context.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The famed title of Uthman 'Dhul Nurayn' coming from the mouth of the Prophet (s) is not present in any of the six esteemed works of Ahl'ul Sunnah (Sahih Bukhari, Muslim, Sunan Al-Sugra, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan al-Tirmidhi and Al-Muwatta)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Also by going with character, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) had already said that Usman (PBUH)'s chracter was better than Ali (PBUH). The ten people Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) given the news of heaven (Ushra-ul-Mubashira) were Abu-Bakar, Umar, Usman then Ali and so forth and so forth and yeah Amir Mawiyah (PBUH) (Father of Yazeed) was one of those ten too.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The Hadith of the ten people promised Paradise is one of the biggest fabricated Hadith of all time.
Most of the people listen in the Hadith were staunch enemies of each other for example in the Battle of Jamal Ali killed Talha & Zubayr. How can a 'believer' kill another 'believer'? Doesnt the Quran preach against this?
Also this Hadith fails to include the Great Companions such as Abu Dhar, Bilal, Ammar Yasir, Malik Ashtar...etc
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Well i think u just ageed a while back that Bukhari and Muslim are sahih from cover to cover now u r saying that this hadith is fabricated. U just went back ur own words. The story of that war is fabricated not the Ushr-ul-Mubashira.
ddruf3 4 years ago
No my friend, I quoted your (the Sunni Aqeeda) belief of Bukhari and Muslim.
The Shia view of Hadith Collection is that no book can be called 'Sahih' from cover to cover, whereas the Sunni view of Bukhari and Muslim is that it is Sahih from cover to cover.
Very contrasting views.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Well see here's where the problem is. as you can tell I m sunni but i don't think any of these books are sahih. they were not written till 100s of year after porphet's death how can they be sahih. they all full of fabicated hadiths. if you cannot prove something out of Quran, i will not belive it. now as none of wht i said is directly prsent in quran and hence could be wrong but so as everything you said is out of hadiths and not quran so that could and for sure is wrong (Wulahul elm)
ddruf3 4 years ago
You have raised a very good and logical point.
What you have said regarding the Hadith collections is exactly what we Shia believe, great proportions have been fabricated to suit the Umayyad rulers of the time.
Dont you think the Prophet should have had the knowledge and fore-sightedness to appoint a successor that would protect his teachings (Sunnah)?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Well finally we agree on something. The only problem is that its partial agreement. We believe that all the problems started in Abbasid era after khilafut moved in Baghdad. While you it was in Ummayaad era. As long as that issue stand neither one can convince the other. you will always find proof of wht you say in ur books and i will find proofs in mine.
ddruf3 4 years ago
Although the Abbasid claimed legitimacy to power by their familial connection to Muhammed, they consisted of many unjust and oppresive rulers, for example Harun Rashid.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Ok friend, I think we have done enough debate on this topic. I m not accepting my defeat and do not expect same from you. But I think its about time we both go to out respective corners with any hard feelings. you have right to ur believes and i have right to mine.
ddruf3 4 years ago
you have been a good debater and it was fun and a learning experience. we dont have to agree with each other but we boh sure did learned abt each other. By the way i saw another video by you regarding Saudi faults in Iraq and i completely agree with you on that one. By the people do call me Wahabi because of my believes (I don't as i find a lot wrong with them too) you can call me an outcast muslim.
ddruf3 4 years ago
I thank you from this talk and I praise you in your ability in not insulting me nor cursing me in harsh manners, something which others are often unable to do.
If you follow the teachings of Mohammed ibn Abdul Wahhab, then it would be clear to say you are a 'Wahhabi'
If you are happy with your Faith and believe you are in total submission to Allah and those who Allah has appointed in authority (4:69), then I wish you all the best in the Future.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Sorry, mistake, the verse is 4:59 not 4:69.
The reason Fatima is exalted higher than the others is that her merits can be found in the Book of Allah, unlike the others.
Peace be upon You
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Buddy, u call urself muslim and i call myself muslim that makes us brothers and i will never curse my brother out. I think the whole problem we (muslims) are facing right now is that we become defensive and starts swearing and threatning people out if they say anything wrong about out belives
ddruf3 4 years ago
that cursing and threatning also shows why nonmuslims consider us evil and murderers. I have read comments on this site like "i will kill you for saying that u ****. islam is a rligion of peace" i read that comment and thought wow thts stupid. I belive in debate not violance every issue can solved by debate and without vilance
ddruf3 4 years ago 3
I will bid farewell now with no hard feelings. May Allah bless you.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The merits of Lady Fatima are not limited to the Hadith books. The actions of Lady Fatima were the reason why Chapter 76 was revealed. It is agreed on by all Scholars that when Hassan and Hussein were ill, the Prophet had told Lady Fatima to observe a fast as a promise to Allah to heal them. Allah tested their patience for three days by making three different people test them at the time of breaking their fast.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
"Surely the righteous shall drink of a cup the admixture of which is camphor.....<u>And they give food out of love for Him to the poor and the orphan and the captive</u>....But Allah will deliver <b>them</b> (Fatima, Hassan & Hussein) from the evil of that Day, <u>and will shed over them a Light of Beauty and (blissful) Joy</u>" (76:5-11)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Buddy, i nver questioned merits of Bibi Fatima and I never would. I questioned the fact that why were other daughters did not receive the same merit and even if you are right that Bibi Fatima had higher status in front of Allah. who give us the right to diffrenciate between the four daughters. we should treat all four of them the same. becuse even if they were not as important as bibi Fatima they are still million times better than you and me
ddruf3 4 years ago
by the way in saying so i am not agreeing with ya. I am proving my point even if urs would be true ( which it isn't). so lets stop arguing now
ddruf3 4 years ago
"by the way in saying so i am not agreeing with ya. I am proving my point <i>even if urs would be true</i> <u>( which it isn't)</u>."
A bit condescending...
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Sorry if i sounded like that, i didn't meant to. My apologeze.
ddruf3 4 years ago
"The story of that war is fabricated not the Ushr-ul-Mubashira."
The Battle of the Camel (Jamal) between Ali and Talha, Zubayr & Ayesha has been fabricated?
How can I talk to someone who denies the facts of History, consult your scholar regarding matters you are not aware of.
"They have been conviniently deleted from the Islamic history."
How can this be when the Umayyads have had complete power over History and not the Shia.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
It was Abbasid era when these books were published not Ummayyad. Umaayaad dynasty ended in 750 AD and sahih bukhari was published in 800s AD. My years might not be accurate but are in correct ball park figure.
ddruf3 4 years ago
Usman (PBUH) was given the title of Zunurain (One who has two noors) yet somehow him or his family never are remmebred in the same manner as Ali (PBUH) and his kids. Some people even consider him, Abu Bakar (PBUH) and Umar (PBUH) the enemies of Islam and murderers of Bibi Fatima. You know who these poeple are. So unless, you can treat the kids of all four daughters equally, don't tell me that you are following Allah's order of respecting Prophet's family.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The reason the sons of Ali have been held in such high esteem was because it was for them (Ali, Hassan, Hussein & Fatima) the verse: "Allah wishes to remove all filth and impurity from you O House of the Prophet, and to render you utterly free of pollution." (Quran 33:33)
According to Hadith narrated by Lady Ayesha found in the Sahih of 'Imam' Muslim, this verse was indeed narated for Ali, Fatima, Hassan & Hussayn.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Somehow i think this Hadith is fabricated. Unless Quran says that Bibi Fatima's family is far more superior than families of other daughters of prophet mohammad. I would not believe it. Prove that to me and i will leave ur false opinon alone.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The Quran states in 33:33 that the 'Household of the Prophet have been purified'
Hadith in the books of Bukhari and Muslim, whom according to the respected belief of the Ahle-Sunnah are 'Sahih' (Authentic) from cover to cover indicate that the 'Household' referred to in the ayat 33:33 are Fatima, Ali, Hassan & Hussain.
Fatima & her sons were the holy people spoken about in Chapter 76 Verse 7-10 when they fed the poor with the only food they had.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
last but not least, Allah himself said that you can do sijdah to anyone else but to him so if these people are not worshipping the dead, and are just showing their respect, why the Sijdah at the enterance?? When the messangers of Pophet went to see King of Rome they even refuse to bow their bodies because to them bowing to anyone else beside Allah (even out of respect) was wrong.
ddruf3 4 years ago
The sajdah (prostration) at the entrance of the shrine was to thank Allah (swt) for the ability to visit the Sacred Sanctities and was in no way directed towards the tomb.
Those pilgrims have travelled hundreds and thousands of miles to visit the shrine of the Grandson of the Prophet, after reaching the shrine they are overwhelmed with emotions and praise for Allah, so they do prostration before they enter to thank Allah for allowing them the ability to do so.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Unless when they do sajdah they are facing Kabah and the grave is not in front of them the sjadah is wrong. As they arew doing sajdah at the entrance the grave would be in front of them and hence it is worng
ddruf3 4 years ago
How do you know they are not facing Ka'ba?
When you pray in your room, you do sajdah to the wall in the direction of the Ka'ba, does that mean you are worshipping the wall?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
I am not saying they are not facing kabah, nut the grave should not be in fron of them. That's why if someone is praying you dont pass in front of them unless ur in jammat and praying with them. So if they are facing Kabah but the grave is in front of them then the Sajdah is mukruh
ddruf3 4 years ago
Ayatullah Burujerdi was a teacher of Imam Khomeini (ra)
yaQaim 4 years ago
Mr. Saedgh, the bombing was done by Islamic R.
The person Mr. Brojerdi ran from this evil regime and he said at the time he was working for Islamic goverment and he was ordered by the Mullahs to do this you are fast sleep behind the wheel.
crusade4life 4 years ago
"the bombing was done by Islamic R."
No muslim would even think about bombing the shrine of the Family of the Prophet.
Ayatollah Boroujerdi is a strong critic of the Iranian Government, however he is a Shia "Ayatollah" who believes in the purity of the Family of the Prophet, he would never carry out such an attack on the people who he follows.
Please quote from a source or bring evidence if you are truthful. Thankyou
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Yes ofcourse and the 9/11 attacks was also made by Mr.Borujerdi (sarcasm)
MJM1989 4 years ago
why is it that when a video like this is posted there are always debates in progress..?
alhussaini 4 years ago
Again:
[45:6] These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
TomSolivin 4 years ago
According to the Shia School of Thought every doctrine/belief should be able to be found in the Quran, as the Quran is the ultimate book of Guidance for muslims and non-muslims alike, in which the Divine Scriptures of the Injil, Taurat and Zaboor can be found.
Regarding Hadiths, if the Hadiths contradict the Holy Quran in any way what so ever, they then must be "thrown against the wall"
lostprophet786 4 years ago
"In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?"
Notice the part in the ayaat which says "AND HIS REVELATIONS"
All the Hadiths are regarding Allahs revelations, if they did not then we would not believe in them, as the Quran rightly says not to.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
For example, Allah revealed to us the Prayer, so we have Hadith about the Prayer...SO LONG AS the Hadith does NOT contradict the Quran
I agree with you brother TomSolivin that there are many Hadith which have been man-made, and the way we know that they are man-made is because the Hadith contradict the Quran. Hence why we should use the Quran as a "Judge" when we want to filter correct Hadith from fabricated Hadith .
lostprophet786 4 years ago
"As this is not mentioned in the Quran"??? See what Hadith and Sonah done to create Idol worshipers?
[6:38] ... We did not leave anything out of this book**.
ALL your Salaat answers Have BEEN given to you!!!
Spend a good 5 hours to Understand this, before you judge it.
(3w)(dot)submission(dot)org/salat19(dot)html
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[39:45] When GOD ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter shrink with aversion. But when others **(emam? profits?) are mentioned beside Him, they become satisfied.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book**. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[45:6] These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
TomSolivin 4 years ago
"When you pray Fajr Salaat, how many rakaats do you pray? As this is not mentioned in the Quran and can only be found in Hadith. WHAT????????????????????Kofr!
17, 18, &[25:19] They have disbelieved in the message you have given them, and, consequently, you can neither protect them from the retribution they have incurred, nor can you help them in any way. Anyone among you who commits evil, we will commit him to severe retribution.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[10:28] On the day when we summon them all, we will say to those who worshipped idols, "We have summoned you, together with your idols." We will have them confront each other, and their idols will say to them, "We had no idea that you idolized us.
[[ ManMade Idols like Imam Reza ??]]
TomSolivin 4 years ago
"ManMade Idols like Imam Reza"
I seek protection in Allah from your erroneous claims
Imam Reza is the Grandson of the Holy Prophet, and the Eighth Imam of the Shia. No one worships Imam Reza, but we respect him (Imam Reza) as he is Allahs representative on the Earth.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Why follow the teachings of the Prophet?
"Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the latter day and remembers Allah much" (33:21)
From this ayaat we can see that the Sunnah of the Prophet is good for:
1. People who hopes in Allah
2. People who believe on the Day of Judgement
3. People who do "dhikr" of Allah
Do you hope for all these? Then follow the Teachings of Mohammed (saw)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Hadith & Sonnah ---> man-made We do not need either, only the book. and only God.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
"O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end" (4:59)
Who are the people "vested in authority" that Allah orders us to obey?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
[45:6] These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
" An army statement said the bombing in the north-eastern city of Mashad was an attempt by what it called the seditious gang of Saeed Emami and Mostafa Kazemi to derail official investigations into the murders of a series of intellectuals in Iran last year."- BBC
hamestersmiley 4 years ago
This was done by Alqaeda, May you all go to hell bastards
Shantoos 4 years ago
a simple Dna test
Jaipune 4 years ago
well i think in todays advanced genetic technolgy we can easily do an autopsy and find out if imam reza was really poisoned?
Jaipune 4 years ago
Prophet Muhammed did not know the future
submission (dot) org/future.html
TomSolivin 4 years ago
The Followers of the Ahlulbayt (Shia) believe that every doctrine and foundation of belief should be found in the Quran, if not then the belief should be abandoned. Hadith are also very important so long as they do not contradict the Holy Quran, and if they do contradict the Holy Quran, then "throw the hadith against the wall".
lostprophet786 4 years ago
You claim not to follow hadith and only the Quran. I respect your belief, but tell me, In salaat where do you position your arms, on your chest or by your side? [Please bring Quranic proof for your answer]
Peace be on You
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Since it was not covered in Quran,it is not of importance. Therefore it should not matter where your hands are placed; by your side or in a holding position. But I can tell you that this one is covered; [5:6] O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall: (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles
TomSolivin 4 years ago
is this how you do it?
TomSolivin 4 years ago
remember, quran, using arabic for a reason. So it says ..TO... the elbow and not from, wash you feet To the ankle...
God Bless you.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
"wash you feet To the ankle"
No where in the Ayat (5:6) does it say "wash" your feet to the ankle. The three prominent Quran translation (Shakir, Yusufali, Pickthall) have not put the word "wash" directly in to the ayat as there is no arabic word for wash in the exact quranic verse.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
"...and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles" (Shakir)
"...Rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles" (Yusufali) [Please notice, Yusufali has put the "wash" in brackets as it is not found in the arabic verse]
"...and lightly rub your heads and (wash) your feet up to the ankles" (Pickthall) [Please notice, again, that "wash" has been put in brackets, as once again this Quranic translator fails to find the verb "wash" in the arabic text]
lostprophet786 4 years ago
So, from these three translators, we can see that the word "wash" cannot be found in the arabic text, and I ask you to correct me if I am wrong by showing me the arabic word for "wash" in Verse 6 of Chapter 5.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
You have said: "Prophet Muhammed did not know the future"
The Holy Quran [the Glorious Book which you say you staunchly follow] says:
"These tidings of Unseen, We reveal to you. Neither you did know nor your people before this. Then be patient. No doubt there is good for the duty-bound." (11:49)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
"How will Mohammed recognize those who deserve his intercession?" concept; a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform him that the person deserves to go to Paradise. He will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad? God be glorified.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
"He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede EXCEPT for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble" (21:28)
"No intercession can avail in His Presence, EXCEPT for those for whom He has granted permission" (34:23)
"And those whom they call upon besides Him have no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know (him)." (43:86)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
" This is idolatry"
This is not idolatry or polytheism. Idolatry is worshipping an object or image which you regard as God. No one in their right minds regards the Holy Prophet as God, this is ludicrous.
Intercession in no ways lowers the position of Allah (swt) the Exalted and Praiseworthy. Allah has given the ability to intercede to those "...who has made a covenant with the Beneficent Allah." (19:87)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
The reason Muslim are killing Muslims, is because of all I said!
Quran: Is The ONLY Source
[17:46] We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone, they run away in aversion.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
We are all one!
[5:69] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the converts, and the Christians; any of them who (1) believe in GOD and (2) believe in the Last Day, and (3) lead a righteous life, have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[2:62] Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
A Dozen reasons why believers should follow
the Quran and nothing but the Quran
submission (dot) org/dozen (dot) html
TomSolivin 4 years ago
This is precisely what happened after the prophet Muhammad's death; Hadith (oral) and Sunna (actions) were invented and attributed to the Prophet. Hadith and Sunna are satanic innovations because they:
TomSolivin 4 years ago
The Quran's mathematical miracle provides mathematical evidence that the Quran shall be our only source of religious teachings. Here are just 2 examples:
1. "We did not leave anything out of this book," is in Verse 38 (19x2) and consists of 19 Arabic letters (6:38). 2. "He sent down this book fully detailed," is in Verse 114 (19x6) and consists of 19 Arabic letters (6:114).
TomSolivin 4 years ago
[1] defy the divine assertions that the Quran is complete, perfect, fully detailed, and shall be the only source of religious guidance (6:19, 38, 114 & 45:6-7),
[2] blaspheme against the Prophet and depict him as a vicious tyrant who did not uphold the Quran, and
[3] create false doctrines based on superstition, ignorance, and indefensible nonsensical traditions. The prophet Muhammad was enjoined, in very strong words, from issuing any religious teachings besides the Quran (69:38-48).
TomSolivin 4 years ago
Which Hadith, other than God and His revelations, do they uphold? [45:6]
The Quran is not a fabricated Hadith; ...it details everything. [12:111]
TomSolivin 4 years ago
The only Sunna to follow shall be God's Sunna. [17:77, 33:62, 48:23, 6:114]
Some people uphold vain Hadith to divert others from the path of God. [31:6]
TomSolivin 4 years ago
then, with the same token, Iask you to study thi site -- at list for 90 days; becuase if the secrets of quran is revealed by anyone in eighty-some ways, give each at least a day before judging. After all you cannt accept and use parts of einsten's theory E=mc2 and reject other parts of it.
(3w)(dot) submission (dot)(org)
TomSolivin 4 years ago
We learn from the Quran that Abraham, God's beloved servant, could not intercede on behalf of his father (9:114). Noah could not intercede on behalf of his son (11:46). Muhammad could not intercede on behalf of his uncle (111:1-3) or relatives (9:80). What makes anyone think that a prophet or a saint will intercede on behalf of a perfect stranger?! See 2:48, 123; 6:51, 70, 94; 7:53; 10:3; 19:87; 26:100; 30:13; 32:4; 36:23; 39:44; 40:18; 43:86; 53:26 & 74:48. Muhammad's intercession is in 25:30.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
Your concept of Intercession is mistaken and obscured.
Intercession is NOT for the enemies of Allah or Disbelievers. Intercession is for the Muttaqeen (the Pious), the people who strive in the way of Allah day and night, and whose remembrance of Allah is instilled in their heart.
Prophet Abraham could not intercede for his father because he was an enemy of Allah (9:114), Prophet Noah could not intercede for his son, because his son was a disbeliever who mocked Allahs threats. (11:42-45)
lostprophet786 4 years ago
The concept of intercession is utterly illogical. Those who believe in Muhammad's intercession, for example, claim that he will ask God to forgive them and admit them into Paradise. They imagine Muhammad on the Day of Judgment choosing the candidates for his intercession. If you ask those who believe in intercession: "How will Muhammad recognize those who deserve his intercession?" they tell you, "God will tell him!"....
TomSolivin 4 years ago
.....According to this concept, a person will go to Muhammad and request his intercession. Muhammad will then ask God whether this person deserves his intercession or not. God will inform Muhammad that the person deserves to go to Paradise. Muhammad will then turn around and tell God that the person deserves to go to Paradise! The blasphemy is obvious; those who believe in intercession make God a secretary of their idol Muhammad. God be glorified.
TomSolivin 4 years ago
To believe that anyone, other than God, can intercede on our behalf to have our sins forgiven or our wishes fulfilled, is to set up partners with God. This is idolatry. The Quran proclaims that "All intercession belongs to God" (39:44), and that there will be "no intercession on the Day of Judgment" (2:254)
TomSolivin 4 years ago
"The Quran proclaims that "All intercession belongs to God" (39:44), and that there will be "no intercession on the Day of Judgment" (2:254) "
The Quran also claims: "EXCEPT for those for whom He has granted permission" (34:23), no authority for intercession, but he who bears witness of the truth and they know (him)." (43:86)
Are you saying the Quran is contradicting itself?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Shi'ism was started by a jew and it twisted the truth of islam. So there forth the people of the Sunnah are the righteous one's that Prft Muhamed Sahi wa asalam as promised.
juliayg77 4 years ago
"Oh you believe, if a transgressor comes to you with news, try to verify it, lest you inflict damage on people unwittingly; then you may consequently regret your hasty action. (ch. 49, v.6)
The Quran tells us to look into these false reports, less we harm people with our Ignorance.
The person who created this tale of "Abdullah ibn Saba", a Jew from Yemen that started Shi'ism has been called a "heretic" by 15 Sunni Historians, the most predominant being Abu Dawud
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Both Sunnis and Shiehs are wrong,eventhough that Sunnis killed Mohammads Grandchilderen (Hassan, Hossain, .....)
TomSolivin 4 years ago
hahahahhaah.....thats the funniest thing ive ever heard...hahahahahahaha
TRUELOVIN 4 years ago
WHO CARES!
proudtobepersian 4 years ago
Ok..why are these people kneeling at the door and kissing the ground giving sajda to his grave, bow in front of no one other than Allah.
nahyank 4 years ago
People are kneeling at the beginning of the video as they are eating food, people are kissing and rubbing the forehead on the ground as it is a sacred precint, the way one would kiss the ground near the Ka'ba. People are kissing the shrine the way one would kiss the Quran, as Hadith in the books of Sihah, Abu Dawud and Abu Sunnan given by the Prophet on the farewell pilgrimage indicate that the Ahlulbayt are equal to the Quran.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Go take a survey of the people who attended..i gaurentee you atleast 40% people dont even pray 5 times a day...Kissing the shrine and making duas there is poinltess. They arnt messengers, they are men, same like we dont say oh Mohammed help me...People should consider praying 5 times a day rather beliving that these men will ask God to remove thier sins...it doesnt work like that..if it did..people would commit sins all the time.
nahyank 4 years ago
It is interesting that you say that "we dont say oh Mohammed help me..." Because in the Quran is says:
Al-Baqarah(2)/Verse 255: "who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission"
And in In Surat Al-Anbiya(21) Verse(28):"And they do not intercede except for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble."
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Ok, now using the above Quranic Ayats with the following Hadith,
The Holy Prophet has said: "My Shafa^ah (Intercession) is for the sinners of my nation" Related by ((((Abu Dawud in Sunan Abi Dawud/Intercession, at-Tirmithy in Jami^ at-Tirmithy/About Shafa^ah, Ibn Majah in Sunan Ibn Majah/About Shafa^ah, Ahmad in Musnad Ahmad 3/213, Ibn Hiban in sahih ibn Hiban/, At-Tabarany in Al-Mu^jam Al Kabeer 1/258, and Al-Khateeb in History of Baghdad 8/11.))))
lostprophet786 4 years ago
And there are many others that I can mention that prove that we CAN do exactly the opposite of what you said, we CAN ask "Oh Muhammed help me..".
Prophet Muhammad intercedes and his intercession is under the will of Allah, it does not change the will of Allah nor does it overcome it, But Allah granted that intercession and by it, He will intercede for the sinners all by the will of Allah.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
For more examples on why we CAN ask "Oh Muhammed help me ..." check out a video on youtube entitled: Sayed Ammar Nakshawani - Is Intercession a Form of Shirk?
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Why would Muslims ask Mohammed for help over Allah...It is not Mohammed that naswers prayers..Its Allah...Why would anyone want to say Oh mohammed help me?...hes dead...but Allah does not die. Muslims can only ask Allah for help...and no one else..
nahyank 4 years ago
"Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord" (3:67) Allah is telling us that those who die in the cause of Allah are NOT dead, they are alive, a concept that you yet need to understand.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
yes they are alive in heaven youre right. But they died on earth, But donot pray to them, because only Allah is worthy of That.
nahyank 4 years ago
" If they (sahaba) had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee(Muhammed) and asked Allah's forgiveness, and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (4:64)It is the will of Allah that people should obey the Holy Prophet. If the sinners approach the Holy Prophet, he will speak on their behalf to Allah, because He has given him the authority to intercede on behalf of the repentant sinners.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Start pray to Allah and ask for forgiveness.
nahyank 4 years ago
well i am muslim too i agree with what you say but remember mohammad is not dead he is in heavon along with moses,abrahim,jesus,lut and the other messengers.
slowpy2007 4 years ago
No one is prostrating directly to the grave, as this is one the biggest sins (gunnah-e-kabira) in Islam, and as you pointed out, we should prostrate to no other then Allah.
lostprophet786 4 years ago
Thanks alot for sharing brother, jazakallah khayran. May Allah destroy the criminal Munafiqeen-e-Khalq cowards and their masters.
islammedia 4 years ago