Fuck all retarded persians who think iran is only a persian state, most of them live of course in US, retarded cunts, nationalizing kermansha(n), Ilam and many other citys from the kurds. Just look at the music instrument, there probably made in Sine( sanandaj) by snake skin and other stuff. Biji kamkars
1. This Group is Persian. 2. We never nationalized any of those cities mentioned 3. Tonbak and Daf skins are never made by Snake skin, they're made by Goat Skin and Camel Skin. 4. Most Tonbaks are from Esfahan and Shiraz, that's where they were invented. And why would they be from Sanandaj? Don't be jealous and do yourself a favor, either delete your Youtube account or stop posting comments. I was enjoying the Performance until you came with your stupid comment, stop hating.
@samioa Daf, is invented by kurds, and the first dafs were made by snake skin and still are. Well we kurds don't camel ride we don't have any camels in kurdistan. But daf is kurdish. ANd yes you did and you did it really good, i've been in iran 12 times of my 14 years of life. You nationalized Kermansha(n) ilam, why? beacuse they are very famous of their history just like the ilam empire.
Daf is a Kurdo-Persian instrument, it's not known if it was invented by Kurds or Persians. And you're wrong again, it's not possible to use snake skin on daf, the diameter is too small unless its a freaking Python or Anaconda, Oh and yes there are Camels in Kurdistan, it's nothing to be ashamed of, they're very useful Animals. That comment about Camels was pretty stupid. And the province of iLam has nothnig to do with Elamites, Elamite empire is modern Fars and Khuzestan.
@samioa Are you joking with me? i don't know what daf you have in mashad or what ever but we use snake skin and it works very well. 174 historical sites listed in ilam province, it was a part of elamite empire. well i hate camels deal with it.
Ilam was of course a province of the Elamite empire but the main (Capital cities) of the empire were located in the Pars province and Khuzestan (Dezful) for example the ''Chogha Zanbil'' Ziggurat from the Elamite empire is located in Dezful, The following cities were annexed to the Elamite federation: Anshan (modern Pars), Susa, Jiroft, Zabol, Sialk, Choga Zanbil, Marhasi. There has been allot of traces found in those following cities from the Elamite Empire.
And I told you already we never Persianized Kurds, That's why we changed the name from Persia to Iran, that's why you people are speaking Kurdish today, else you would have been speaking Persian. And why would we Persianize you people anyway? It makes absolutely no logical sense to do that. And by ''Us nationalizing Kermanshah'' what do you mean by that? Do you mean KHamenei and Ahmadi? I dont think they even give a shit about History all they care about is Islam.
@samioa A example, i visited khar- karaftoo cave which is on the south of the oldest zoroastrianiam temple takht-sulayman. This cave has been populated by the medes for a long time but do you think they said that on the info table? no, they said the greeks were there and that king abbas fled to the cave on the escape of the british empire. persianize i mean by moving in people to the cities just look at kermansha(N). Ask me why? beacuse it has strong history,
Yeah perhaps Kurds lived in Takhte Soleyman, but the city itself has found traces of Achaemenid Period and was later completly built during the Sassanid Empire, later the Arabs destroyed but was later partly rebuilt. With the ''Greeks were there'' They probably meant the Conquests of Alexander, and what does the thing with King Abbas have to do with Persianization?
@samioa Yes you could find greek script on the walls, which later the turks( azeri) wrote habib on it. Well it said that king abbas fled from the british true there. You could even find on the way kurdish children with greek DNA, the way they look.Well, yes of course that's the only period the greeks came during alexander. But still, it was completly built way before sassanid ever existed but it was expanded during sassanid. But the thing is, you'll never get proof if the achaemenid was persian
And yes Achaemenids were mainly Persian that have already been proven a long time ago. They're language was Persian (Old Persian) which was called Pârsâ back then then. The word ''Persian'' has been mentioned many times in ancient Persian documents and inscriptions, for example by Darius and Ariaramnes. All the rules of the Achaemenid Empire was Persian, the Capital was Persian however in the Army there were Persians, Medes, Scythians, Carians, Elamites, Egytpians and many more.
However the medes were also important during the Achaemenid Empire as only Persians, Medes and Elamites were allowed to participate in the ''Immortal Rank'', and you can also see reliefs in Persepolis of Mede and Persian soldiers together.
@samioa or kurdish, you know why during that time there was nothing called kurdish or persian, right? Except the part of persian empire. Mede was kingdom from eastern anatolia to hindukush and of course very few were kurds. If you can see what i am saying is that iran is not only persian as mede wasn't only kurds, or the parthian empire. And i hope that people respect that, when someone is saying god bless iran and the persian people you get really pissed of.
The earliest evidence of the daf dates back to Sassanid Iran. The parsi Pahlavi (an ancient Iranic language) name of the daf is dap. The word daf is therefore the Arabicized form of the word dap. Some pictures of dap have been found in paintings that date before the Common Era.(UNESKOworld heritege historicl protect)
sp even name of daf is persian origin.
alos kurd use this bc we are living fo long in the same country.
this music,langiage,poet,melody,..us iranian parsian/parsi.
So what does the stupidity of the People have to do with us Persians? We don't call everything Persian, The Safavids were Azeri-Persian, the rulers of the Zand Dynasty were Kurds but the dynasty which made it a Kurdo-Persian Dynasty, we don't call Shalvar Kordi (Kurdish Pants) Shalvar Parsi (Persian Pants), We don't call Kurdish dance Persian dance,
You know what you Kurds problems are? You think that you're some kind of superior/unique people and that everything is Kurdish well you aren't so build a bridge and get over it, you're embarrassing yourself.
@samioa My problem is that you think the iranian culture, the iranian history, everything is only persian that is what piss me of. which of course it isn't.
@samioa Well, no the thing you are represnting isn't you'res. I mean you represent iran, and you're persian, so that means you are representing other's history aswell.
@TheZagros3000 this instrument which trace back to perisna ,parsi pahlawi era .use by various groups like:persian,kurds,turks,arab,pakestanies,indian,...
so why when we menion persian which is the origin of this u become mad!?and when we use kurd u r happy!?
@TheZagros3000 pawlavi !!!!!!pls go read something!!!ur claiems r agisnts all accepted,prvoved international facts.!!
pahlawi is kurdish!?
kurdish is mix of median,...
persian devides to:old persian(parsi bastan)akhameshid era,mid persian(parsi pahlawi),modern persian(parsi dari,)which is also known as farsi,tajiki,dari).
@TheZagros3000 Middle Persian, indigenously known as "Pârsig" sometimes referred to as parsi Pahlavi or Pehlevi,[1] is the Middle Iranian language/ethnolect of Southwestern Iran that during Sassanid times (224-654 CE) became a prestige dialect and so came to be spoken in other regions as well. Middle Persian is classified as a Western Iranian language. It descends from Old Persian and is the linguistic ancestor of modern Persian(parsi dari).(Linguist List - Michigan University)
Lol Pahlavi is Kurdish? You do know that there is a reason why it's called Middle Persian? Farsi, Bakhtiari are the branches of Middle Persian. There is almost no difference between middle Persian and modern Persian, and almost no difference between Bakhtiari and Persian. Didn't you just say that you are Elamites? Now suddenly it became Pahlavi? Can you make up your mind? Why aren't you speaking Pahlavi today then?
@samioa Just beacuse Bakhtiari speaks an persian dialect doesn't mean they are persians for that, so that means kurd in turkey are kurds beacuse they speak kurdish, I mean have you looked at their culture like traditional clothes to example, looks like kurdish. By the way lors was an nomadic tribe which late shah pahlavi forced them to settle.
Thats the point! Traditional Ancient Persian Clothing, dance and language that's what makes them Persian, that's why we call the pure Persians! They have preserved the Persian culture from the Sassanid Empire to now. Have you ever wondered why Persians for example from Tehran have no traditional dance? That's because they are more modern people while the Bakhtiaris are Nomads who have preserved ancient persian culture for a long time.
Well, i didn't know that, but why do the modern persians dance another dance? Arab influence? In that case we kurds have preserved our culture pretty well.
For the same reason that Japanese people go to rock concerts and dress like hipsters from NY. I'm from Shiraz and in elementary school/pre-school we would dress up in traditional Parsi clothes etc... I guess minority groups have more reasons to stick to their own culture (they feel that their culture is under attack since they are a minority) so that's why you as a Kurds might be more into Kurdish culture than me into Parsi culture as a Parsi.
Many are oppressed by Arabian Culture due to the Islamic Revolution, as it's called. And many of those who are not in a move towards Arabian Culture, strive for so-called Western Culture. Many people complain, as my Aunt Farah says, 'Those who are not oppressed, are not interested.' There is nothing uninteresting about the Persian way of life, yet many other Iranians say otherwise.
For the same reason that Japanese people go to rock concerts and dress like hipsters from NY. I'm from Shiraz and in elementary school/pre-school we would dress up in traditional Parsi clothes etc... I guess minority groups have more reasons to stick to their own culture (they feel that their culture is under attack since they are a minority) so that's why you as a Kurds might be more into Kurdish culture than me into Parsi culture as a Parsi.
For the same reason that Japanese people go to rock concerts and dress like hipsters from NY. I'm from Shiraz and in elementary school/pre-school we would dress up in traditional Parsi clothes etc... I guess minority groups have more reasons to stick to their own culture (they feel that their culture is under attack since they are a minority) so that's why you as a Kurds might be more into Kurdish culture than me into Parsi culture as a Parsi.
Even the term Bakhtiari comes from the Persian language, Bakht means chance in Persian and it's hard to explain what iari means but basically, Bearers of Luck. The Bakthiaris even today have horse riding techniques from the Sassanid Era.
Bakthiaris are the purest Persians out there! They have preserved the Persian culture from the Sassanid times, any bakthiari knows the whole Shahnameh book fluently, I have relatives in Iran who are Bakhtiaris and i've asked them many things trust me. Middle Persian (Pahlavi) = Farsi, Bakhtiari,Tajik, Lori. There is no difference between Farsi and Bakhtiari, it's just that Bakthiari is more purer Persian (they don't use the extra added words in their language from invadors).
During the Sassanid empire they called Middle Persian -> Pārsik (Notice the ''Pars'' in it). Now what are you'r poofs that Middle Persian is ''Kurdish''? You do not have any proofs so if I were you I wouldn't respond this and just learn from it.
@samioa dafs played an important role in Mazdean Iran emerging as an important element during the Sassanian times during the Kâvusakân dynasty kavusakan=kurdish.
Yes, Middle Persian (Pahlavi) during the Sassanid Era was called ''Parsig/Parsik'' Notice the Pars. And the Kurdish people were called Gord/Goran I think, during the later Arab occupation of Iran the name of Gords were changed to Kords/Kurds just like Pars was changed to Fars/Farsi, because the Arabs neither have G or P. The term Bakhtiari didn't exists in this time because Bakhtiaris were Parsi (Persian).
@samioa Well, actully in the city of Sine there were 5000 old document, treasures, which the PERSIAN government took and replaced it with a bridge. And along the bride it was full of treasures.
There were Documents and trasures and the government took it, What the fuck should they do with them than? Just leave them so a bunch of thieves can take them and sell them? Of course the govenment takes them and puts them somewhere safe called ''A Museum'' google it if i don't know what it is.
There were Documents and trasures and the government took it, What the fuck should they do with them than? Just leave them so a bunch of thieves can take them and sell them? Of course the govenment takes them and puts them somewhere safe called ''A Museum'' google it if i don't know what it is.
Well what else should the government have done? Just leave those treasure and documents there so anyone could steal them, you know what they do with old stuff? They take them and put them in a fucking Museum, if you don't know what that is google it.
This is how the Persians used to win their battles in the old days. They used to have hundreds of men roll their drums exactly like they do (specially the very beginning of the video) at the battle field. It tore through their enemies chest like a lightning, and they rumbled and roared like lions. If you know how to one your mind with the sounds it can really boost your strength and energy.
Dastet Tala, Angoushtat Tala, Estedadet Tala,...... Dastet Dard na kone.
Haife in Hounar nist ke bazi ha ya shayad bayad goft kheily hamoun be Gedaei pishe farhang haey digge mirand va Jazz mikhanand ya Break Dance mikonand. Harchizi bejay khodesh ama adam aval bayad khadem farhang khodesh bashe na mobalegh va Hamal farhang haei digge oun ham farhang haye ghaleb.
well, technically calling it Persian music is unfair since Kurdish instruments are used by this group as well, Iranian music would be a better name for it.
@AimiriZ - outside of Iran some people still refer to Iran or Iranians by the name Persian, mainly by Iranians that wish to detach themselves from the madness of the last 30 years. What they really mean is Iran. Surely, we all know that Fars or Pars is just a province in Iran. So lets not get ethnic as we are one nation and we've been that for a long time. peace!
1) besyar zibasto tabriko ahsand 2) baba akhe nemishe lebase talebani napushino rish nazarin??? baba ye keravati ye lebase moderni chizi bepushin,,kharej az iran ke mibinan khiyal mikonan ya ma arabim yam talebani hastim baba akhe shomake honarmandin shoma chera???
chekar be rishe mardom dari , to ba saate nike hal mikoni , in yaroo hatman ba rishe in modeli :D dige moohe madan che rabti dare be mamlekat? khakbarsare oon yeki ke az rishe mardom ensano dorost mikone , oona bayad avaz shan na ina
i didn't say he was Afghani he was born in Balkh which is in Afghanistan now but back than it was Khorasan which no longer exist therefore Rumi is universal
holy cow batman..... !!!
drumweaver 2 days ago
The Guy with beard is great
bravo
arabiannight100 1 week ago
incredible
MrMarkVenture 2 weeks ago
Hammer^^
MelodiamParum 2 months ago
Do they have any albums out ?
- Any reccomendations of other similar groups I should check out?
thanks :)
80Cetbal08 2 months ago
Beautiful
persianmar 3 months ago
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goartstone9 3 months ago
Fuck all retarded persians who think iran is only a persian state, most of them live of course in US, retarded cunts, nationalizing kermansha(n), Ilam and many other citys from the kurds. Just look at the music instrument, there probably made in Sine( sanandaj) by snake skin and other stuff. Biji kamkars
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
1. This Group is Persian. 2. We never nationalized any of those cities mentioned 3. Tonbak and Daf skins are never made by Snake skin, they're made by Goat Skin and Camel Skin. 4. Most Tonbaks are from Esfahan and Shiraz, that's where they were invented. And why would they be from Sanandaj? Don't be jealous and do yourself a favor, either delete your Youtube account or stop posting comments. I was enjoying the Performance until you came with your stupid comment, stop hating.
samioa 4 months ago in playlist Goroh e Mastan
@samioa Daf, is invented by kurds, and the first dafs were made by snake skin and still are. Well we kurds don't camel ride we don't have any camels in kurdistan. But daf is kurdish. ANd yes you did and you did it really good, i've been in iran 12 times of my 14 years of life. You nationalized Kermansha(n) ilam, why? beacuse they are very famous of their history just like the ilam empire.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Daf is a Kurdo-Persian instrument, it's not known if it was invented by Kurds or Persians. And you're wrong again, it's not possible to use snake skin on daf, the diameter is too small unless its a freaking Python or Anaconda, Oh and yes there are Camels in Kurdistan, it's nothing to be ashamed of, they're very useful Animals. That comment about Camels was pretty stupid. And the province of iLam has nothnig to do with Elamites, Elamite empire is modern Fars and Khuzestan.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Are you joking with me? i don't know what daf you have in mashad or what ever but we use snake skin and it works very well. 174 historical sites listed in ilam province, it was a part of elamite empire. well i hate camels deal with it.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Ilam was of course a province of the Elamite empire but the main (Capital cities) of the empire were located in the Pars province and Khuzestan (Dezful) for example the ''Chogha Zanbil'' Ziggurat from the Elamite empire is located in Dezful, The following cities were annexed to the Elamite federation: Anshan (modern Pars), Susa, Jiroft, Zabol, Sialk, Choga Zanbil, Marhasi. There has been allot of traces found in those following cities from the Elamite Empire.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Btw, the first daf's ever made was by snake skin.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
And I told you already we never Persianized Kurds, That's why we changed the name from Persia to Iran, that's why you people are speaking Kurdish today, else you would have been speaking Persian. And why would we Persianize you people anyway? It makes absolutely no logical sense to do that. And by ''Us nationalizing Kermanshah'' what do you mean by that? Do you mean KHamenei and Ahmadi? I dont think they even give a shit about History all they care about is Islam.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa A example, i visited khar- karaftoo cave which is on the south of the oldest zoroastrianiam temple takht-sulayman. This cave has been populated by the medes for a long time but do you think they said that on the info table? no, they said the greeks were there and that king abbas fled to the cave on the escape of the british empire. persianize i mean by moving in people to the cities just look at kermansha(N). Ask me why? beacuse it has strong history,
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Yeah perhaps Kurds lived in Takhte Soleyman, but the city itself has found traces of Achaemenid Period and was later completly built during the Sassanid Empire, later the Arabs destroyed but was later partly rebuilt. With the ''Greeks were there'' They probably meant the Conquests of Alexander, and what does the thing with King Abbas have to do with Persianization?
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Yes you could find greek script on the walls, which later the turks( azeri) wrote habib on it. Well it said that king abbas fled from the british true there. You could even find on the way kurdish children with greek DNA, the way they look.Well, yes of course that's the only period the greeks came during alexander. But still, it was completly built way before sassanid ever existed but it was expanded during sassanid. But the thing is, you'll never get proof if the achaemenid was persian
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
And yes Achaemenids were mainly Persian that have already been proven a long time ago. They're language was Persian (Old Persian) which was called Pârsâ back then then. The word ''Persian'' has been mentioned many times in ancient Persian documents and inscriptions, for example by Darius and Ariaramnes. All the rules of the Achaemenid Empire was Persian, the Capital was Persian however in the Army there were Persians, Medes, Scythians, Carians, Elamites, Egytpians and many more.
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
However the medes were also important during the Achaemenid Empire as only Persians, Medes and Elamites were allowed to participate in the ''Immortal Rank'', and you can also see reliefs in Persepolis of Mede and Persian soldiers together.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa or kurdish, you know why during that time there was nothing called kurdish or persian, right? Except the part of persian empire. Mede was kingdom from eastern anatolia to hindukush and of course very few were kurds. If you can see what i am saying is that iran is not only persian as mede wasn't only kurds, or the parthian empire. And i hope that people respect that, when someone is saying god bless iran and the persian people you get really pissed of.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
And yes I know that Iran isn't only Persian, as I said that's why the name was changed to Iran.
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Now If you wanna discuss this further, talk to me in Private message, I don't want to make this conversation unpleasant for the viewers.
samioa 4 months ago
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@samioa example:parsi pahlawi:Dārom andarz-ē az dānāgān Az guft-ī pēšēnīgān
parsi dari or farsi:(modern persian)=Dāram andarz-ē az dānāgān Az gufte-ye pēšēnīgān
kurdish any dilect of it:kurmanji,sorani,gorani,..is not even close o this!!?
Az gufte-ye pēšēnīgān
sspersian 4 months ago
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sspersian 4 months ago
The earliest evidence of the daf dates back to Sassanid Iran. The parsi Pahlavi (an ancient Iranic language) name of the daf is dap. The word daf is therefore the Arabicized form of the word dap. Some pictures of dap have been found in paintings that date before the Common Era.(UNESKOworld heritege historicl protect)
sp even name of daf is persian origin.
alos kurd use this bc we are living fo long in the same country.
this music,langiage,poet,melody,..us iranian parsian/parsi.
sspersian 4 months ago
@samioa You're wrong, parthian empire stod for it.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@samioa when people look at iran they think of great persian history, persian people nothing else.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
So what does the stupidity of the People have to do with us Persians? We don't call everything Persian, The Safavids were Azeri-Persian, the rulers of the Zand Dynasty were Kurds but the dynasty which made it a Kurdo-Persian Dynasty, we don't call Shalvar Kordi (Kurdish Pants) Shalvar Parsi (Persian Pants), We don't call Kurdish dance Persian dance,
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
You know what you Kurds problems are? You think that you're some kind of superior/unique people and that everything is Kurdish well you aren't so build a bridge and get over it, you're embarrassing yourself.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa My problem is that you think the iranian culture, the iranian history, everything is only persian that is what piss me of. which of course it isn't.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
We only represent what's ours as simple as that.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Well, no the thing you are represnting isn't you'res. I mean you represent iran, and you're persian, so that means you are representing other's history aswell.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000 this instrument which trace back to perisna ,parsi pahlawi era .use by various groups like:persian,kurds,turks,arab,pakestanies,indian,...
so why when we menion persian which is the origin of this u become mad!?and when we use kurd u r happy!?
sspersian 4 months ago
@sspersian beacuse i am a kurd, and we have a stolen history, which pice me of, pahlawi= not persian , kurdish.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
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@TheZagros3000 pawlavi !!!!!!pls go read something!!!ur claiems r agisnts all accepted,prvoved international facts.!!
pahlawi is kurdish!?
kurdish is mix of median,...
persian devides to:old persian(parsi bastan)akhameshid era,mid persian(parsi pahlawi),modern persian(parsi dari,)which is also known as farsi,tajiki,dari).
go read something!!
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@TheZagros3000 if thses thses hings would be kurd it would be consider as kurd by international criterias.!!
its not urs to be solen u think its money.
persian mention in oldest books(bible,torat,.)name kurd only seen recently!!
pawlawi kurd!!!!!its mid persian parsi pawlawi.
sspersian 4 months ago
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@TheZagros3000 Middle Persian, indigenously known as "Pârsig" sometimes referred to as parsi Pahlavi or Pehlevi,[1] is the Middle Iranian language/ethnolect of Southwestern Iran that during Sassanid times (224-654 CE) became a prestige dialect and so came to be spoken in other regions as well. Middle Persian is classified as a Western Iranian language. It descends from Old Persian and is the linguistic ancestor of modern Persian(parsi dari).(Linguist List - Michigan University)
kurd!
sspersian 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Lol Pahlavi is Kurdish? You do know that there is a reason why it's called Middle Persian? Farsi, Bakhtiari are the branches of Middle Persian. There is almost no difference between middle Persian and modern Persian, and almost no difference between Bakhtiari and Persian. Didn't you just say that you are Elamites? Now suddenly it became Pahlavi? Can you make up your mind? Why aren't you speaking Pahlavi today then?
samioa 4 months ago in playlist Goroh e Mastan
@samioa Just beacuse Bakhtiari speaks an persian dialect doesn't mean they are persians for that, so that means kurd in turkey are kurds beacuse they speak kurdish, I mean have you looked at their culture like traditional clothes to example, looks like kurdish. By the way lors was an nomadic tribe which late shah pahlavi forced them to settle.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Thats the point! Traditional Ancient Persian Clothing, dance and language that's what makes them Persian, that's why we call the pure Persians! They have preserved the Persian culture from the Sassanid Empire to now. Have you ever wondered why Persians for example from Tehran have no traditional dance? That's because they are more modern people while the Bakhtiaris are Nomads who have preserved ancient persian culture for a long time.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa
Well, i didn't know that, but why do the modern persians dance another dance? Arab influence? In that case we kurds have preserved our culture pretty well.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Yes you have I did not say you have not
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
For the same reason that Japanese people go to rock concerts and dress like hipsters from NY. I'm from Shiraz and in elementary school/pre-school we would dress up in traditional Parsi clothes etc... I guess minority groups have more reasons to stick to their own culture (they feel that their culture is under attack since they are a minority) so that's why you as a Kurds might be more into Kurdish culture than me into Parsi culture as a Parsi.
nimrooo 4 months ago 2
@nimrooo
Parsi culture isn't exactly stable either.
Many are oppressed by Arabian Culture due to the Islamic Revolution, as it's called. And many of those who are not in a move towards Arabian Culture, strive for so-called Western Culture. Many people complain, as my Aunt Farah says, 'Those who are not oppressed, are not interested.' There is nothing uninteresting about the Persian way of life, yet many other Iranians say otherwise.
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@TheZagros3000
For the same reason that Japanese people go to rock concerts and dress like hipsters from NY. I'm from Shiraz and in elementary school/pre-school we would dress up in traditional Parsi clothes etc... I guess minority groups have more reasons to stick to their own culture (they feel that their culture is under attack since they are a minority) so that's why you as a Kurds might be more into Kurdish culture than me into Parsi culture as a Parsi.
nimrooo 4 months ago
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@TheZagros3000
For the same reason that Japanese people go to rock concerts and dress like hipsters from NY. I'm from Shiraz and in elementary school/pre-school we would dress up in traditional Parsi clothes etc... I guess minority groups have more reasons to stick to their own culture (they feel that their culture is under attack since they are a minority) so that's why you as a Kurds might be more into Kurdish culture than me into Parsi culture as a Parsi.
nimrooo 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Even the term Bakhtiari comes from the Persian language, Bakht means chance in Persian and it's hard to explain what iari means but basically, Bearers of Luck. The Bakthiaris even today have horse riding techniques from the Sassanid Era.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa If lors are not persian which they ain't why would bakhtiarians be persians? have you ever heard about something called assimilation?
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Bakthiaris are the purest Persians out there! They have preserved the Persian culture from the Sassanid times, any bakthiari knows the whole Shahnameh book fluently, I have relatives in Iran who are Bakhtiaris and i've asked them many things trust me. Middle Persian (Pahlavi) = Farsi, Bakhtiari,Tajik, Lori. There is no difference between Farsi and Bakhtiari, it's just that Bakthiari is more purer Persian (they don't use the extra added words in their language from invadors).
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
I know it's hard but sometimes you have to face the truth. You can't change it. It has never been Changed and it will never be changed.
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000 There do exist transitional dialects between Southern Kurdish and Lori-Bakhtiāri
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
During the Sassanid empire they called Middle Persian -> Pārsik (Notice the ''Pars'' in it). Now what are you'r poofs that Middle Persian is ''Kurdish''? You do not have any proofs so if I were you I wouldn't respond this and just learn from it.
samioa 4 months ago in playlist Goroh e Mastan
@samioa What do you mean with middle persian?
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Oh i'm sorry, umm Middle Persian is another name for ''Pahlavi''. In English they call it ''Middle Persian''.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa dafs played an important role in Mazdean Iran emerging as an important element during the Sassanian times during the Kâvusakân dynasty kavusakan=kurdish.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@samioa During those time there were nothing called kurdish people, persian people etc. That's my answer,
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Yes, Middle Persian (Pahlavi) during the Sassanid Era was called ''Parsig/Parsik'' Notice the Pars. And the Kurdish people were called Gord/Goran I think, during the later Arab occupation of Iran the name of Gords were changed to Kords/Kurds just like Pars was changed to Fars/Farsi, because the Arabs neither have G or P. The term Bakhtiari didn't exists in this time because Bakhtiaris were Parsi (Persian).
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Well, actully in the city of Sine there were 5000 old document, treasures, which the PERSIAN government took and replaced it with a bridge. And along the bride it was full of treasures.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
There were Documents and trasures and the government took it, What the fuck should they do with them than? Just leave them so a bunch of thieves can take them and sell them? Of course the govenment takes them and puts them somewhere safe called ''A Museum'' google it if i don't know what it is.
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
There were Documents and trasures and the government took it, What the fuck should they do with them than? Just leave them so a bunch of thieves can take them and sell them? Of course the govenment takes them and puts them somewhere safe called ''A Museum'' google it if i don't know what it is.
samioa 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Well what else should the government have done? Just leave those treasure and documents there so anyone could steal them, you know what they do with old stuff? They take them and put them in a fucking Museum, if you don't know what that is google it.
samioa 4 months ago
@samioa Well if it that you think they did you're wrong.
TheZagros3000 4 months ago
@TheZagros3000
Btw, You're the one who's retarded.
samioa 4 months ago in playlist Goroh e Mastan
impresionante que agilidad de los dedos felicitaciones a este señor saludos desde arequipa Perú
misscabra2011 5 months ago
WOW!!!! Such energy!! I shall view all of these!
laelamarie1 5 months ago
BRAVOOO
SKRIPAC100 5 months ago
Oh the Persian !! the Persian !! the Persian !! beautiful people,amazing art and awsome poetry...
SithSereyPheap1 5 months ago
That guy can Type FAST!
MsMilkytheclown 5 months ago 2
ADORABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!! DIVINE COORDINTION !!!
VampilaAtelier 6 months ago
I play drums and Im impressed
nastied 7 months ago
Bravo.
Axibis 7 months ago
..and the world's best percussion artist is....... you know who.... A CLASS ART.
LingaShaved 8 months ago
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samioa 8 months ago in playlist gorohe mastan
Excellent Finger Work from All Artist.वा ! क्या बात है ! बहुत खूब !
Uday2310 8 months ago
2:00 sick solo!!
ninjaturtle205 8 months ago
Wow!
MittiMB 8 months ago
finally you will be in Belgum i love your music
KurdishSky1 8 months ago
bravo bravo bravo!
madeInKabul86 8 months ago
he goes a bit more in the end, but its superb..
designandsketch 9 months ago
WOOOOOOOW! the doyereh sounds like a speeding train!
it's nuts!!
ofirharlev 9 months ago
@ofirharlev
The first guy is playing a daf not a doyereh.
AimiriZ 9 months ago
@AimiriZ oh right, sorry
ofirharlev 9 months ago
such as fast fingers! Wow
euphemia71 10 months ago
Khoooob!!! (Applause) :-)
music1etc 10 months ago
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Music everywhere,and the very best of the sufi music.
"Without music life would be a mistake."
Uday2310 10 months ago
These guys are Truly and Remarkably Talented.
cableconnection6 11 months ago
100 AFREEN.X100,AFREEN....
babaali009 11 months ago
i wish i could play like that......
SonOfAlanbar 11 months ago
Los persas son los reyes de la percusión. Excelente música.
aacugna8 11 months ago
BIG beard guy is SOOOO UGLY .. bloody DOG
the rest are ok
moghuls 11 months ago
@moghuls what does how he looks have to do with anything, listen to the music, look at the talent
Pangool777 11 months ago
@moghuls You must be pretty vacant as my big fat ass! I came across many stupids in my life but, you are special! MAJMUNE!
TheDinarid 10 months ago
شما دوستان یا فقط یاد گرفتید تعریف الکی کنید یا گوش درست موسیقی ندارید
اینها اصلا سینک نیستند و فقط دارند شلوغ میکنند این که تنبک نیست. متاسفم برای فرهنگ هنری خودمان
AKhajavi 11 months ago
@AKhajavi : شما که انقدر راجع به مو سیقی ایرانی می دونی به ما بگو اگر این تمبک نیست پس چیه؟ کف گیره
hkmovie1 10 months ago
Braaaavoo! aali bud! adam ino mibine ehsase falaji mikone.. :)
kantokantiokanto 1 year ago
el houssine boukas editeur annonces publicitaires de casablanca morocco .
a le plaisir d'etre abonner a votre chaine youtube pour publication .
laika005 1 year ago
This is how the Persians used to win their battles in the old days. They used to have hundreds of men roll their drums exactly like they do (specially the very beginning of the video) at the battle field. It tore through their enemies chest like a lightning, and they rumbled and roared like lions. If you know how to one your mind with the sounds it can really boost your strength and energy.
prolixusimports 1 year ago
w00t! gangstaritos!!!!!!!!!!!!
alishechka29 1 year ago
this is the coolest most rock and roll thing i've seen this year... and i'm a real deal indie rock music buff
theboyandhiswand 1 year ago
the guy's body language is so funny, he seemed pissed
NASIMNASIM 1 year ago
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NASIMNASIM 1 year ago
Dastet Tala, Angoushtat Tala, Estedadet Tala,...... Dastet Dard na kone.
Haife in Hounar nist ke bazi ha ya shayad bayad goft kheily hamoun be Gedaei pishe farhang haey digge mirand va Jazz mikhanand ya Break Dance mikonand. Harchizi bejay khodesh ama adam aval bayad khadem farhang khodesh bashe na mobalegh va Hamal farhang haei digge oun ham farhang haye ghaleb.
Hekmataneh1 1 year ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOW
salan1984 1 year ago
Dast khosh ! Takid bachehaye honarmande Iran, doseton darim . ;')
aidinbm 1 year ago
I'm simply speechless!!!
Dentfly1 1 year ago
vaghean ke mayeye eftekhare mellatin.....mamnoon
nadysunny 1 year ago
Unbelivable and awsome!! So gifted you all are! Please keep up the tune! Your art sooths many hearts.
Uday2310 1 year ago
dastet dard nakone
Obama90 1 year ago
i´m in trance
cucaraca 1 year ago
AMAZING!!!
20mo02 1 year ago
awesome drumming!!!!!!
blankisartful 1 year ago
persian intellectual and spiritual capacity blows my mind.
viralvirus1 1 year ago
This clip is fantastic , out of this world, however the commentary is mostly garbage.
Onehubbabubba 1 year ago
glorious aryans...coming from carpathian mountains!
taliayu 1 year ago
awesome
paarsan984 1 year ago
Absolutely wonderful
Finaly faster beats on the daft!
kbaghaee 1 year ago
Incredible nothig like it !
jezadeh1 1 year ago
Besyar aliiii mersi.
freeiran97 1 year ago
great track
hitlerparsian 1 year ago
bi nazirrrrr !!!!
zendeh bashi honarmand
yekiyekdouneh 1 year ago
No words can discribe this talent except just Persian how wonderful .
jezadeh1 1 year ago
Such beautiful and elegant melody only and only belongs to Persian Music. As always it has the wow factor.
pcdoctor09 1 year ago 2
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mubbq 1 year ago
@mubbq
shut it asshole, go fuck your sister like a good kurd.
Onehubbabubba 1 year ago
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lindaravenswood 1 year ago
All the money..!!!!!
TakisVounisios 1 year ago
afarin be sahab honarmand ,,,,,,,fantastique,,,,,,,,,
houmannn 1 year ago
Naze shaste in aziz- Sahab Torabi, Zarb. Doset darim Sahab
ssheyton 1 year ago
amazing
niakossary 1 year ago
man zarb zadaneh sahab ro bishtar az zarbe aghaye haddadi dust daram
ellatesham nemidunam
shirin tar mizaneh be nazaram
seenataghavi 1 year ago
May ,o, Badeeh Kojasst!
iranovich2 1 year ago
JUST FANTASTIC...
proficiency1 1 year ago
amazing!!!!! :D
rockery95 1 year ago
besyar ziba
00aryamitra 1 year ago
quite the unique arts. i'm interested in how persian music
is different from iraqi and arabic.. they seem abit similar
still sound different.. very interesting.
ayanuhito 1 year ago 9
well, technically calling it Persian music is unfair since Kurdish instruments are used by this group as well, Iranian music would be a better name for it.
AimiriZ 1 year ago 2
@AimiriZ thats it man it should be called iranian but evry kid from teheran thinks he is persian xD this ppl are ignorant
djBOZZmix 1 year ago
@AimiriZ - outside of Iran some people still refer to Iran or Iranians by the name Persian, mainly by Iranians that wish to detach themselves from the madness of the last 30 years. What they really mean is Iran. Surely, we all know that Fars or Pars is just a province in Iran. So lets not get ethnic as we are one nation and we've been that for a long time. peace!
approveall 1 year ago
@ayanuhito very simple we dont speak arabic we are PERSIANS!
BOBMARLEY2168 8 months ago
@ayanuhito Arabic music may sound similar to Persian music because it was heavily influenced by Persian music when the Arabs invaded Iran.
Ashkunx 7 months ago
man hang kardam alan :O
shamot84 1 year ago 3
Great Playing.Speed & Quality Playing
Uday2310 1 year ago
1) besyar zibasto tabriko ahsand 2) baba akhe nemishe lebase talebani napushino rish nazarin??? baba ye keravati ye lebase moderni chizi bepushin,,kharej az iran ke mibinan khiyal mikonan ya ma arabim yam talebani hastim baba akhe shomake honarmandin shoma chera???
drnevzat 1 year ago
chekar be rishe mardom dari , to ba saate nike hal mikoni , in yaroo hatman ba rishe in modeli :D dige moohe madan che rabti dare be mamlekat? khakbarsare oon yeki ke az rishe mardom ensano dorost mikone , oona bayad avaz shan na ina
waarthefckpraatjijov 1 year ago 4
Just wonderful!
Ba arezouye movaffagiyathaye bishtar.
Tofigh
towfighn 1 year ago 3
دست مریزاد. تا بحال هرگز تنبک نوازی با این عظمت ندیده بودم.
mogbaba 1 year ago 2
kheyli aali
xboysade 1 year ago 2
درود بر شما و گروه مستان واقعآ که باید این پنجه ها را طلا گرفت
babak947 1 year ago
IIIIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
shupalak 2 years ago
Persia !!! the land of Art !!
Viva Iran VIva Persia !!
we call this music instrument: "Tonbak"
dotari89 2 years ago 3
Super.......................
mochalef 2 years ago
Wow! really fast and amazing play!
They deserve a great rating!
Betaplayer366 2 years ago
so great..
KhairulKhalil703 2 years ago
wow this was something out of the ordinary =) What is this music called?
swedo88 2 years ago
Amazing fingers! Great solo!
toddatron 2 years ago 2
What are you trying to say that he was IRANI?
i didn't say he was Afghani he was born in Balkh which is in Afghanistan now but back than it was Khorasan which no longer exist therefore Rumi is universal
Mastana7 2 years ago
Indeed! Molana belongs to them who read him.
mogbaba 1 year ago
this is the LOVE
pspnerd24 2 years ago
Next Level of Tonbak...
Navazandeye tonbak magar aghaye Navide Afghah nist?! Chera ba esme Sahabe Torabi moarefi mishe?
MehdizVision 2 years ago
They are real artists.
galawejmah 2 years ago 5
rokhsat darvishhhh....
pasha23251 2 years ago
The art belong to the persian
honorofpersia 2 years ago
دستت طلا مرد !!!
mysheida 2 years ago 25
o.0
AimiriZ 2 years ago
tombak guy is my hero
fatbabak 2 years ago 3
amazing
tammureddu 2 years ago 2
Aadam ra be Malakout mibrand.
Ashtyian 2 years ago 4
just amazing
sharkia123 2 years ago 12
The person playing "tonbak" is amazing
coockiecoockie1 2 years ago 5
ouaaaaaaa
Nyooo3 2 years ago 2
great!
navazguitar 2 years ago 2
Wow... Words can't describe my amazement. Dastetan dard nakonad.
Ashtyian 2 years ago 3
der kha, der kha.. zinda bad
der khoob .
sajid peshawar pakistan
msajoki 2 years ago 3
I guess these guys are gifted, wow.
jeymann 2 years ago 5
har dam az in bagh bari miresad tazeh tar az tazeh tari miresad
where can you find such a this music
bacheeeruni 2 years ago 5
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beautiful music, rubbish description
aqalidost 2 years ago