It's great to have you, Coach Stein, as an advocate of the "false step"! As a coach I used to encourage my players not to do it. But I noticed it was against their nature, no matter how hard they tried they didn't feel comfortable. I ran out of arguments especially since some of my quickest players were using the "false step" out of the triple threat position very successfully. So I stopped to correct them. Now, reading your comments confirmes me that I made the right decision. THANKS!
I think the negative step debate is fascinating and also something I've been focused on. Is it faster or more efficient is debatable. But the determining factor for me is the traveling violation (especially being in Europe and playing by FIBA rules). This negative step is the root of many travelling calls at this time of year for American players in their 1st season abroad. Train them to eliminate this step and we also are training them to play under any rules.
my major problem with the plyo-step, false step, or negative footwork (whichever term you prefer) i sthat the game of basketball is not always a race or chasing tennis balls. Sometimes you have a pivot foot, a live dribble and when that same footwork is used - its is a travel. I believe it makes sense to try to train to the footwork that will be necessary in all situations - not just some. Thoughts?
@coachlok I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I readily admit the game isn't always a race and certainly admit there aren't EVER tennis balls on the court during the game :) I agree with Coach Wheel (below)... that from a neutral stance (which is really the only time a player takes a plyo step)... it makes no sense to try to train someone to consciously go against what is natural. A plyo step is quicker and more powerful than a short 'positive' step (from a neutral stance).
@coachlok Plus, when a player is on offense, and they have a designated pivot foot... they dictate their movement... they aren't reacting in the same way to a dropped tennis ball. I don't think there is a 'one size fits all' to footwork... I think a variety of drills, reaction cues, starting positions, etc. is the best bet!
to comment on the plyo step..... why waste your time training someone out of a natural movement that is faster. Stand on a line in a square stance, have someone say go and try and NOT use a plyo step. It's your bodies natural way of placing your feat in the most optimal position to create force in the ground. Any athlete who is predetermined to go straight forward will start in this position (sprinters, WR's, softball players when stealing).
WOW! amazing incorportation (i think thats the word) ! props !!! u could also do this with 2 real basketballs n pass before catching the second ball!!NICEEEEEEE
coach, I have heard that what the player is doing at the beginning is called a false step. As in, stepping backwards to go forwards. You want to stay away from that, right?
@EGGSLAMMERHEAD You are correct, that is called a false step (or a plyo step)... and no... my argument is that it is a good thing! That a 'false' step is quicker and more powerful when standing in a neutral stance and trying to move forward!
Good drill. You should tell the player to be aware that often, he steps in the opposite direction first, before accelerating towards the tennis ball. This is wasted footwork and energy, and makes him slower. Let me know if you understand what I'm talking about. Love your channel.
@bballbreakdown I appreciate you posting your thoughts. I am very aware of his initial step, it is actually called a 'plyo' step... and honestly... I prefer it! Logically I understand what you are saying... and agree that the theory of 'stepping backwards to go forwards' doesn't make sense. However, by taking that step you 'load to explode' with even more power and quickness! It is actually quicker to take the plyo step first! That's why players do it naturally... especially when reacting.
@bballbreakdown If they don't take this 'plyo' step, their first step is either slower, weaker, or shorter (or a combo of all three). It is similar to jumping... if you are standing straight up and need to jump... what is the first thing you MUST do? Bend/squat down! You have to drop your hips DOWN in order to jump UP! Similar concept here. Not trying to bombard you, but this is something I have been looking at for years to figure out what works best :) I appreciate you!
To comment on the jumping part - this is why we teach players to be in a ready position to start so the distance they need to move down is as short as possible before going up.
As for lateral movement, I'm not sold that the plyo step gives you that explosion you're talking about. And from a pure basketball perspective, when we got our players to stop doing it, our defense improved exponentially.
@bballbreakdown I love it too! I really appreciate your passion and professionalism. Healthy debate is always a good thing :) I def agree with you about the jumping part... you are 100% right... which is why players always need to be in a stance (and play 'low to high'). As for the movement part, if they are already in a staggered stance or going to move laterally, the plyo step isn't necessary... only when moving forward from an even foot stance (does that make sense?).
@StrongerTeamDotCom Really like this debate! We have been thinking about this matter as well to get our players to move as fast as possible from a standing position. I've looked up some research on the subject and found that - from a neutral stance - a false step will result in faster sprinting times than a forward step. Furthermore I found that - from a staggered stance - a false step will also be slightly faster than a forward step.
these things are stupid! xD
verysmartboyz 2 months ago
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neopc14 2 months ago
It's great to have you, Coach Stein, as an advocate of the "false step"! As a coach I used to encourage my players not to do it. But I noticed it was against their nature, no matter how hard they tried they didn't feel comfortable. I ran out of arguments especially since some of my quickest players were using the "false step" out of the triple threat position very successfully. So I stopped to correct them. Now, reading your comments confirmes me that I made the right decision. THANKS!
MenSenzg 4 months ago
@MenSenzg My pleasure, thank you!
StrongerTeamDotCom 4 months ago
I think the negative step debate is fascinating and also something I've been focused on. Is it faster or more efficient is debatable. But the determining factor for me is the traveling violation (especially being in Europe and playing by FIBA rules). This negative step is the root of many travelling calls at this time of year for American players in their 1st season abroad. Train them to eliminate this step and we also are training them to play under any rules.
thefanning 4 months ago
@thefanning Thanks for sharing your thoughts...
StrongerTeamDotCom 4 months ago
Isn't this this guy supposed to use a positive step instead of a negative step?
777urbina 6 months ago
@777urbina Not in my opinion... read the other comments below...
StrongerTeamDotCom 6 months ago
my major problem with the plyo-step, false step, or negative footwork (whichever term you prefer) i sthat the game of basketball is not always a race or chasing tennis balls. Sometimes you have a pivot foot, a live dribble and when that same footwork is used - its is a travel. I believe it makes sense to try to train to the footwork that will be necessary in all situations - not just some. Thoughts?
coachlok 6 months ago
@coachlok I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts. I readily admit the game isn't always a race and certainly admit there aren't EVER tennis balls on the court during the game :) I agree with Coach Wheel (below)... that from a neutral stance (which is really the only time a player takes a plyo step)... it makes no sense to try to train someone to consciously go against what is natural. A plyo step is quicker and more powerful than a short 'positive' step (from a neutral stance).
StrongerTeamDotCom 6 months ago
@coachlok Plus, when a player is on offense, and they have a designated pivot foot... they dictate their movement... they aren't reacting in the same way to a dropped tennis ball. I don't think there is a 'one size fits all' to footwork... I think a variety of drills, reaction cues, starting positions, etc. is the best bet!
StrongerTeamDotCom 6 months ago
to comment on the plyo step..... why waste your time training someone out of a natural movement that is faster. Stand on a line in a square stance, have someone say go and try and NOT use a plyo step. It's your bodies natural way of placing your feat in the most optimal position to create force in the ground. Any athlete who is predetermined to go straight forward will start in this position (sprinters, WR's, softball players when stealing).
CoachWheel3 8 months ago
@CoachWheel3 I agree 100%, thanks! Very well said!
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StrongerTeamDotCom 8 months ago
Outstanding drills! Do you have videos of plyometric drills (depth jumps, box jumps, etc) available?
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alejovj7 9 months ago
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StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
WOW! amazing incorportation (i think thats the word) ! props !!! u could also do this with 2 real basketballs n pass before catching the second ball!!NICEEEEEEE
therealSCW 9 months ago
@therealSCW Thanks for your support, glad you like!
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
The quote at the end is a good message. Thank for sharing.
SMARTERTeamTraining 9 months ago
@SMARTERTeamTraining My pleasure, thank YOU!
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
coach, I have heard that what the player is doing at the beginning is called a false step. As in, stepping backwards to go forwards. You want to stay away from that, right?
EGGSLAMMERHEAD 9 months ago
@EGGSLAMMERHEAD You are correct, that is called a false step (or a plyo step)... and no... my argument is that it is a good thing! That a 'false' step is quicker and more powerful when standing in a neutral stance and trying to move forward!
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
Good drills. I appreciate watching your clips for tips.
jgovereasy 9 months ago 3
@jgovereasy Thanks! I appreciate your support!
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
Good drill. You should tell the player to be aware that often, he steps in the opposite direction first, before accelerating towards the tennis ball. This is wasted footwork and energy, and makes him slower. Let me know if you understand what I'm talking about. Love your channel.
bballbreakdown 9 months ago
@bballbreakdown I appreciate you posting your thoughts. I am very aware of his initial step, it is actually called a 'plyo' step... and honestly... I prefer it! Logically I understand what you are saying... and agree that the theory of 'stepping backwards to go forwards' doesn't make sense. However, by taking that step you 'load to explode' with even more power and quickness! It is actually quicker to take the plyo step first! That's why players do it naturally... especially when reacting.
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
@bballbreakdown If they don't take this 'plyo' step, their first step is either slower, weaker, or shorter (or a combo of all three). It is similar to jumping... if you are standing straight up and need to jump... what is the first thing you MUST do? Bend/squat down! You have to drop your hips DOWN in order to jump UP! Similar concept here. Not trying to bombard you, but this is something I have been looking at for years to figure out what works best :) I appreciate you!
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
@StrongerTeamDotCom LET THE DEBATE BEGIN! Love it.
To comment on the jumping part - this is why we teach players to be in a ready position to start so the distance they need to move down is as short as possible before going up.
As for lateral movement, I'm not sold that the plyo step gives you that explosion you're talking about. And from a pure basketball perspective, when we got our players to stop doing it, our defense improved exponentially.
bballbreakdown 9 months ago
@bballbreakdown I love it too! I really appreciate your passion and professionalism. Healthy debate is always a good thing :) I def agree with you about the jumping part... you are 100% right... which is why players always need to be in a stance (and play 'low to high'). As for the movement part, if they are already in a staggered stance or going to move laterally, the plyo step isn't necessary... only when moving forward from an even foot stance (does that make sense?).
StrongerTeamDotCom 9 months ago
@StrongerTeamDotCom Really like this debate! We have been thinking about this matter as well to get our players to move as fast as possible from a standing position. I've looked up some research on the subject and found that - from a neutral stance - a false step will result in faster sprinting times than a forward step. Furthermore I found that - from a staggered stance - a false step will also be slightly faster than a forward step.
EliteAthletesBE 9 months ago
@EliteAthletesBE I agree wholeheartedly... thanks!
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