When visiting Sofia, Bulgaria, Vladimir Zhirinovsky Russian MP announced that neighboring Romania was, in his view, an artificial state created by Italian gypsies who seized territory from Russia, Bulgaria and Hungary.
some people dont understand that greece isnt claming that the land of fyrom is greek...just the term "macedonian"....bulgaria can have the fucking land. JUST STOP USING THE NAME.
I only want a fucking war with these fucking brainwashed bastard-lesbian retards from Vardaska. In 2 hourds they will be fucked hardcore and shut up for ever.
Hoho. Find Hristo Tatarchev in Wikipedia. "He is considered an ethnic Macedonian in the Republic of Macedonia" it says. And they call us Bulgarians - "tatars". Oh, the irony...
And about that "Macedonia is Greek", well no. No more than "Greece is roman (or Italian) " or "Greece is ottoman (or Turkey)". It happens to be part of the history that is no longer true, because things change. What matters is what people think. If they want to call themselves Macedonian, let them be.
Hristo Tatarchev (Bulgarian: Христо Татарчев, , December 16, 1869 - January 5, 1952) was a Bulgarian[1][2][3][4] revolutionary and first leader of the revolutionary movement in Macedonia and Eastern Thrace (the organization was renamed to IMARO in 1906 and IMRO in 1920). He wrote the memoirs The First Central Committee of the IMRO (1928). He authored several political journalism works between the First and Second World Wars. He is considered an ethnic Macedonian in the Republic of Macedonia.
Ето ти цитата от уикипедията, ти какво въобще четеш? Да, приеман е за етнически македонец в Република Македония, и за българин в останалата част от света. Нали затова говорим - че кай вас историята е една, а в цял свят е друга? Това да твърдиш нещо е едно, а съвсем друго е да го докажеш. Тук зборуваме за доказателства, а не за празни приказки.
Значи, ядосах се сега. Ама ти с очите си виждаш какво пише в уикипедията, щом го цитираш тука. И със същите тези очи и ръце вземаш само последното изречение (което просто информативно казва че в Македония го имат за македонец човека). Как може да сте такива коне с капаци бре??? Що за хора сте, как може на бялото черно да казваш, след като с очите си виждаш че е бяло? Какво удоволствие въобще ви доставят такива неща??? Та бъдете си македонци - никой не ви пречи. Просто не бягайте от историята си!
@hanibal1981 Цитирам, щото македонците така четат историята (като взимат предвид само забележките, какво мислят те самите). Това, че пише, че Татарчев е българин го пропускат, за справка - мини на македонската страница на wikipedia да видиш. Просто исках да им обясня, че е ирония да викат на нас "татари", като един от "техните" е Татарчев. Да вземат да съберат 2 и 2 и да видят, че сме българи всички, някои с корени от областта Македония. Иначе няма да имат "татар" из техните.
Listen you up you FYROM mother fuckers shut the fuck up and stop breaking balls you are nothing but a pathetic stolen race who liver under false pretense. Just admit you are a fuk up of a race. wasting valuable space on you tube. I not greek i am italian fuk you all.
oh and the song is bulgarian the artist is slavi trivonov showman and singer so brothers macedonians stop sing abot rusenki and stufs like kakva e ona and start to popular ur folklor like us if u want to be real counrty find ur own history and stop coming in my country! if ur poor its not owr fald!
ok in my country bulgaria the regoin called macedonia is rich then FYROM they said we are 100% bulgarians i think macedonians shoud stop to come in bulgaria to work coz bulgaria for bulgarians and macedonia for macedonians :)
ps: i am half greek but im not hater and brothers greeks stop to be haters its silly!
@MyRazor1997 ehmm dude.i know we are both 14 but please how about we speak mature?what macedonia are you talking about the fake nation called 'macedonia' or the greek region (thesaloniki) called macedonia?
Многу јадете гомна,а во суштина никој нема појма што збори...нетреба само да лупате,бугари и грци вие сте само еден одпад кој што настанал со текот на времето...Еве ви Македонско писмо читајте и се ќе ви биде јасно..
Think about it: Great Alexander and all of his family and kin had Greek names, they spoke Greek language, wrote in Greek, followed Greek religion and customs in everything, lived in Greek territory. What does that make them? ...Chinese?
@makedonBULGAR You should be able to read from the sources! Vulgarians came here 1000-1400 years ago. You have no right to the ancient language or name. Bulgarian/Fyromian claims are outlandish propaganda. You gave havok to the place 100 yeras ago, killing and raping. Remember the komitatzides? They were cutting the breasts of women to prevent them from breastfeeding. That's their civilization. Get real. Think, NOW: what EXACTLY is your contribution to world history and civilization. Wake up!
i have an interesting question for Macedonians and Bulgarians.
What do you think about Torlakia and torlakian dialect in Serbia?
Some Bulgarians say Torlaks and Shopi are Bulgarian. In the past, our language was very similar to Bulgarian and Macedonian, even more similar than with regular Serbian. Now our tongue is Serbinised much but i can still understand about 80% of yours.
just type "torlakian dialect" on google and youll find it on viki.
@MoshtHrasta - Torlak dialect is closer to Bulgarian than regular Serbian because it is a dialect of the Bulgarian language. Torlaks are Bulgarians occupying parts of territories which have been taken away from Bulgaria at the Berlin Congress of 1878 and the Balkan wars in 1912-1913 (Specifically and mainly south east Serbia and Northern Macedonia). I have a few friends with such origins whose families have remained in Serbia and I can understand 90% of what they say.
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NOW AT FYROM ARE BULGARIANS AND ALBANIANS.THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE GREEKS.PUT IT IN YOUR MIND FYROMIANS ARE BULGARIANS WHO LIVE AT NORTH MACEDONIA NOTHING MORE!!!!!!
@FYROMustafa Is that ALL you can say? Is that ALL your argument? Your truth? Tell me, what is EXACTLY your people's contribution to world civiliZation and history ??? The fact that YOU JOINED THE NAZIS ???
@FYROMustafa If you really are Greek, i rest my case. If not, don't be misled by my girlfrnd's site and cut the threats and the crap! it is easy to play lion when you are not in front of me! I am a MMA fighter and i can rip your ass open in a blink! Comprende? F*ck! If you are Greek, i do not touch you. My grandfather died in the Italian/Albanian war and I have shed my blood on Greek border long before you are born. If you are a true Greek, watch your mouth!
Θέλω εδώ να πω πως αυτό το βίντεο ήταν στις προτάσεις του YouTube και το είδα απο περιέργεια.
Δεν εκτιμώ καθόλου την τελευταία εικόνα με την σβάστικα πάνω στη σημαία των Σκοπίων.
Πρέπει να τους σεβόμαστε αν θέλουμε να πετύχουμε τους σκοπούς μας και να αντιμετωπίζουμε τις προκλήσεις τους με ψυχραιμία, νηφαλιότητα, χωρίς συναισθηματισμούς και με τα πανίσχυρα και αδιαμφισβήτητα στοιχεία που όλοι οι ιστορικοί παγκοσμίως έχουν στα χέρια τους και διδάσκουν επι αιώνες.
@franknwalters Dude, Macedonia i s just locality in Hellas, Bulgaria and FYR Macedonia! It's not country! There it's not have macedonian nation! Understand this!
Also your reply is on my in Greek language post. CAN YOU READ GREEK? 'Cause if you could, you would see that your post is inconsistent to what I'm saying (the posts in english too).
THERE'S NOTHING IN MY POSTS THAT COULD HAVE WHAT YOU WROTE AS A REPLY.
Finaly if what we see in this video is true, the stupid Bulgarian imperialism is responsible for Fyrom's ridiculous parade.
Nowadays Bulgaria is whistling indifferent looking the other way
You should be friends with your neighbors (the Greeks) who just happen to be the greatest investers in your country.
If Greek investers leave your country, your weak economy will crush down to it's knees...
...and before you start saying anything about Greece's economy, take a moment to think that Greece with all these problems is still in the 30th place of the richest countries globaly.
The South Slavs begun to arrive in the area during the 6th century AD. Until the early 7th century it was colonized by the tribe of Berziti. The Bulgars conquered the city in 867. The name Ohrid first appeared in 879. Between 990 and 1015, Ohrid was the capital and stronghold of the Bulgarian Empire.[11] From 990 to 1018 Ohrid was also the seat of the Bulgarian Patriarchate. And etc etc look it up in wikipedia and there are sooo much books about the mether
i type " Ancient macedonia" in wiki "as you said.. and the first 3 lines say
The Macedonians (Greek: Μακεδόνες, Makedónes) originated from inhabitants of the northeastern part of the Greek peninsula, in the alluvial plain around the rivers Haliacmon and lower Axios. Generally described as an ancient Greek people.
p.s i ve read few books and honestly never read that macedonians arent greek...
can you plz gimme a history book say the opposite?
YOU KNOW THAT anyone can upload anything on Wikipedia?
The fact that I (me as a person) could upload for example that Australia is a Romanian colony with a "reasoned" explanation on that subject, DOESN'T MEAN that it actually is a Romanian colony.
Also ANYONE CAN EDIT ANY TOPIC on Wikipedia.
So, one have to be a total idiot to use this web page as proof for something, especially on a subject which ALL THE HISTORIANS around the globe agree that Fyrom is trying to rewrite history...
@unrealturbos Since 3,000 years now. Can u etymologize Makedonia or Alexander in the language you speak? Try it if you can, and TELL ME, PLEASE.
Strabo, an ancient geographer (Greek word), who lived in first cent CE, in his Geographica (7a.1.9.3-4) PLAINLY says: ''esti oun ELLAS kai h MAKEDONIA'' (''So, Makedonia, too, is Greece'') . Do you need more ???
CASE DONE AND CLOSED ! Stop misreadings and misinterpretations; whatever u say, you cannot prove that white is black. Period. Over.
@afronovaable thats false the people who lived there at that time were Trakian tribes ... we all know that ... greaks lived in small citys and the people who lived in some of these citys werent even greek but they called them that.Just like they call everyone who lives in russia russian but there not . and so on and so on there were people called macedonians but they were destroyed by the romans and the trakian tribes .Bulgarians live there now !
@unrealturbos How convenient!!! So, Greeks were only in cities and u were everywhere else! Thracians were of Greek origin Trallians and Agrianes. You must be talking about Illyrians, Dacians and Paiones... (sorry, what period r u talking about? i think u hav it all mixed up) Read more. Anyway, Bulgarians came to the place after the Slavs, with Asparuch in 679. Even Georges Bousquet, Histoire du People Bulgare, p. 7, admits that (he also says that they violently imposed ''Bulgarism'' to all!)
there is a hotel named Independet Macedonia in Sofia because it was the Macedonian who own that hotel, it is so naive to belive that bulgaria wants an indep.Macedonian state, how can that be when bulgarians dont hide that they consider macedonians as bulgarians, one pepole, on nation, is that right?
@alexchris32 well i guess they think it shows said country as being "evil" =/ but is a dumb thing to do and is mostly done by uninformed people
btw Greece sort of lost to the Axis in ww 2... it was occupied... (agreeably by the technically superior Itallian army and strong at the time /though not very well equipped/ Bulgarian army)
In 20 years FYROM has been unable to provide a single piece of archaeological or historical evidence to prove the link between the Slavs of FYROM (or indeed ANY Slavs) and the ancient Macedonians. Nothing, Nada, Zilch. Instead FYROM museums are full of Greek artefacts.
This says more about FYROM's ridiculous claims and falsifying of history than a million badly made Youtube videos.
The proof isn't there because the Slavs of FYROM have absolutely no link to ancient Macedonia or Alexander.
@Crusad3rTube I know something more funny : there is a small country near Greece and their citizens speak Bulgarian and have slavic names.....They think they are Greeks and they call them selves macedonians !!!! LOL
They are clowns and they build fake statues of Alexander Greek King made in Italy !!!! LOL
They dress up like Ancient Greeks and they celebrate !!!! LOL
>>Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.' said FYROM'S Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka .
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov
@fightwarriorshadow Just like the day before 2 years when we fuck your mothers with 32 points difference.
Remember monkey ?????
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
p.s Like your politics have admit ( there is video in youtube) , you have NO HISTORY so you had to CREATE ALL THESE LIES WITH ALEXANDER AND MACEDONIA.
If you want i can find the link.....
But when you see it then you must go and kill your politics !!! LOL
@TalosGreekRobot that was years ago..this is now ....and like you have politics..bitch please ..if u had good politics you wont be in crysis and now ur stealing history from us,,food from turks and money from EU shame on you gayladda
And since we talk about geography, what better than an ancient geographer of 1st cent CE?
Strabo, in his Geographica (7a.1.9.3-4) MOST PLAINLY and CLEARLY says: ''esti oun ELLAS kai h MAKEDONIA'' (''So, Makedonia, too, is Greece'') . [IF u were a real Mak,edonian, u wouldn't need the translation]
At the time he wrote, there were no Slavs, no Bulgarians, but ONLY GREEKS!
@fightwarriorshadow FYROM= pathetic former bulgarians who think they have the great history of MACEDONIA and think their macedonian, but they whole world knows the truth and laugh at you stupid slav-ass....
@FinMilkku do you even know what is slav or u just know that you are gayladda.. btw i hate politics so im not viewing ur propaganda shit...farewell Gayreek gypsy
@fightwarriorshadow wow that is so pathetic. you know im right, so you don't read my comments anymore. eventhough i know you will read this. fyromanians are slavic wannabe macedonians, who steal other countries history. good thing nobody believes you shit-ass losers. PS. im not greek, you idiot.
@FinMilkku My friend its useless to argue with comi brainwashed people, there is a hole lot of inscriptions that are in Greek dorian dialect same dialect Spartans used
Greeks were the first to fight and WIN the Axis powers in WW2. The Danes surrendered to Hitler's motocyclist, for heaven's name! French lasted only a few weeks. Greeks beated Italians and Albanians and then had four nations against them. WW2 was won of US.
Where were you?
YOU JOINED THE NAZIS! THAT'S where you were. Cut the crap and shut up; you were on the side of a lunatic who bloodshed the world and you have the nerve to speak?
February 24, 1999: The FYROM.'s Ambassador to Canada, Gyordan Veselinov, in an interview with the "Ottawa Citizen", he admitted: "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are Slavs and our language is closely related to Bulgarian. There is some confusion about our identity
"Let us not allow the splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one common disease. If this disease had not been present in our ancestors, from whom we inherited it, they would have never fallen under the sceptre of the Turkish Sultan... "
(Gotse Delchev, IMRO leader, Letter to Nikola Malashevski, Jan. 5 1899)
greeks DNA is TURKISH, all off the world knows that, greeks today don't have anything with the ancient greeks, if they were alive they will be shamed from you... Plus, you greek people fuck your mothers and sisters, what's up with that??? Shame shame shame... Such a retarded nation!!!
@KocoTexas lol your fucking retarded. modern greeks have the same blood as the ancient greeks. while FYROManians have nothing in common with the ancient GREEK macedonia. im gonna forgive you since your american, and clearly don't know shit about history and the world.
@athanatiEllada greeks DNA is TURKISH, all off the world knows that, greeks today don't have anything with the ancient greeks, if they were alive they will be shamed from you... Plus, you greek people fuck your mothers and sisters, what's up with that??? Shame shame shame... Such a retarded nation!!!
@KocoTexas f you really are from america, then it explains why you are stupid, because 78% of the americans believe that rome is in romania and that italy is france and they don't even know anything about outer continents. The neogreek DNA was proved to be related to ancient greek DNA by scientists, who stated that only 4/7 of the ncient greek DNA remained on the new greek DNA. So: YOU WERE WRONG! I AM RIGHT! EAT MY SHIT AND DUST! Here's a spoon.
@FYROMustafa You don't want to fuck my mom, we all know that you want to fuck YOUR mom, you incest piss of shit... That's why you "so called" greek nation is look alike...
@KocoTexas You should know that there are several studies from American Unis (cf. Stanford) proving that modern day Greeks have nothing to do with their neighbors and everything to do with our ancient forefathers. Do your homework. And leave your inferiority complex aside. Lest you tell me,
what EXACTLY is your people's contribution to world civiliZation and history ??? The fact that YOU JOINED THE NAZIS ??? Get real and wake up!
The fyromians in the Republic of fyrom, and Macedonian minorities in Greece, Bulgaria, and Albania, continue to proudly call themselves "Macedonians" and consider the "Slav" label an insult and racial slur. The western press was literary bombarded by mails, faxes, and emails from outraged Macedonians who despised being called "Slavs" during the Albanian aggression on Macedonia. in fact fyromians are bulgarians since samuel s capital was ochrid.. 2/3 of fyrom is bulgarian and 1/3 albanians
@JIMY45GR greeks DNA is TURKISH, all off the world knows that, greeks today don't have anything with the ancient greeks, if they were alive they will be shamed from you... Plus, you greek people fuck your mothers and sisters, what's up with that??? Shame shame shame... Such a retarded nation!!!
нека се мислят за каквито щат.Но да признаят Историяата !!!!
Сръбската пропаганда ги е превърнала в това което са и не ги виня на Макетата , но прочетете историята и се свестете малко !!!
На всеки камък го пише ,на всеки свитък ,всеки който се е бил за Македония е казвал аз Българин... и т.н. с ясното самосъзнание да се освободи тази част на България от Турско робство!Векове наред сме 1 народ с 1 език.Сърбите направиха това с цел да използват благата на Македония.Страшна пропаганда .....
@buho681 Aко мислиш дека нација се креира со пропаганда, тогаш си во заблуда. Остави ја настрана Македонија и пробај да се сетиш дали постои во светот нација креирана со пропаганда. Зарем се Македонците светски феномен? А кои тоа богатства Србија ги искористи од Македонија? Како и секогаш, и давате преголемо значење на српската улога во Македонија.
This video only shows that Macedonia can not be only greek . For the rest, I have only one counter question - if we were really bulgarians, how come Macedonians got their freedom by fighting nobody else, but Bulgarians?
@ratzP You are not a human being, you are damn greek rat (as your profile says). You are low educated scum and I am glad you have no argument to counter me.
@MKDlover Read WORLD history (not macedoNIST and serbian history /macedonian books and books wroten by serbian autors) and you will found answers to all of your questions.
Macedonian or macedoNIST..this is the question! :p
@MrSwatbg World history before 1940 or earlier.. you will see fakts from REAL Bulgarians from the region of Macedonia (republic of Skopje today) ... and then compare it with all bulshits you say and write and by choosing to what to believe you will know you are Macedonian or macedoNIST.
If you not want to find history from then...we can see only with 3 questions: Why the great Tsar Samuil you steal him as ''macedonian''?
@MrSwatbg Aand also other thing which the Greeks maybe still do not know but in republic of Skopje have him in the list of ''macedonian rullers'': WHy you, Skopians steal Basil Bulgaro-killer as ''macedonian''? :))
@MrSwatbg And the answer is Macedonian. Why should I care what any foreign historian would say when I had my grandfather fighting against the bulgarians in WW2? He was priceless source of historic information, he was part of the events, not a writer. His father was member of VMRO and was killed by the vrhovists (bulgarians) due to his view that Macedonia should be indenpendent and united. How could I be a bulgarian when my ancestors were fighting against the bulgarians?
@MKDlover And the answer is Bulgarian dialect. Well, you talk about WW2... and what you know about WW1, buddy? Who saved your ass in Doiran while fighting with Greece, England, France and Serbia IN SAME time (4 vs 1)? Do you know about the Macedonians who died for Bulgaria in ALL wars before? Do you know why Bulgaria joined in Axis?- To back macedonia as western Bulgaria again. Do you know WHY and WHEN republic of Skopje began to gain ''potential'' of a single country and CAUSE WHO?
@MKDlover Do you know that your grandfather cannot change the history? Cannot change the origin of republic of Skopje? I not want to insult and dispute with you. I want we to make one civilizated dialogs with fakts (I hope you are diferent than some people there). Do you knows how many thousands Macedonians died FOR united Bulgaria?
@MKDlover Do you also know why before years the history was wroten by Serbs? Do you know what happened while Skopje was in the Serbian hands? Dude, do you ever see REAL videos from Skopje when Bulgarian troops enter there (Do you know why they do it?) and the people were happy to see them like coming heaven? Because we were occupators? - NO, this one Serbian and already big part of Skopjans will say it... but read dude... and you your heart can take it..I can send you video.
@MKDlover And also...do you know when for first time ''Macedonian'' and ''Bulgarian'' became two diferent things? Do you know when for last time the people in Ohrid go to Sofia as now I go from Sofia to Burgas?
@MrSwatbg Leading question :). Macedonian and Bulgarian have always been different things, despite your efforts to make us same. I don't understand the second question - people from ohrid can still go to sofia and vice versa.
@MrSwatbg Ohrid and Sofia were in the same country only from 1941 until we kicked your butt in 1944. I responded to the second question and can't see other questions.
@MKDlover Dude, you said horrible bulshits. Skopje not was country then and Skopjans not fought for and against nobody ;). So, what you tell me about your grandfather is big lie.
@MKDlover Let remind you some things: In both WW have 2 sides - Allies and Axis. Allies - USA, England, CCCP, France and others. Axis - Germany, Italy, Japan, Bulgaria and others.
Bugaria is in Axis because have contract - IF Axis win, region Macedonia is Bulgaria again. 13 December 1941 Bulgaria declared war to USA and England.
@MKDlover Then USA bombed Sofia AND Skopje. Well, how your grandfather fought with ''the Bulgarians'' while Bulgarians ener in Serbia and Greece with fire but not ''occupating'' Sjope..while Skopjans not was with Allies but not was with Axis too? How you can fight with someone when you are not in any union in the war and you not have enemies in the war..when you are not joined in the war? You talk horrible bulshits.
@MrSwatbg I don't understand your stupid logic. After kingdom of yugoslavia fell apart in 1941, bulgarian fascist army entered easily to macedonia because there was no organized force to resist. Instead of one occupator, another came. The only force to organize the resistance of the people was the communist party. And so it happened, the Macedonian Communist Army was established in order to liberate Macedonia from the bulgarians. With huge support of the nation, we made it and you lost again.
@MKDlover Do you really not understand or you kidding? You can understand that MACEDONIANS NOT FOUGHT FOR AND AGAINS NOBODY in BOTH WW because Skopje not was a country then. You grandfather NOT fought against nobody and you cant lie. Bulgarian troops entered in Skopje because there were the Serbian troops. Serbian contract with Alliance was - If Alliance win, Serbia take Macedonia. If Axis win - Bulgaria take Macedonia. How you can talk horrible bulshits and you fear to open book.
@MKDlover I'm really not surprised... its horrible that you not know nothing about WW2 but lie how ''your grandfather fought against the Bulgarians''... Bulgarians entered in Skopje and the people welcomed them with hugs and clapping and HAVE VIDEO from then and there ;) . I guess your grandfather was Serbian, because macedonians NOT fought with nobody then ;)
@MrSwatbg Well, than how come bulgarians left Macedonia? If the people loved you, who forced you out? Was it the serbs which were never more than 2% of the Macedonian population? :) Furthermore, if your army was feeling among its own people in Macedonia, how come they did massacres (the most famous in Vatasha) and killed thousands of people? Have you seen videos of how bulgarian army withdrew from macedonia? :) I understand your historical frustrations, but can't help you.
@MKDlover How you can be that simple minded person? I will remind you - IF Axis win, Bulgaria take Macedonia. IF Allies wins - Serbia take Macedonia, That are the CONTRACTS of Bulgaria and Serbia to join in Axis and Alliance. Bulgaria won ALL battles in WW but the Germany lost against Allies. When Germany lost against Allies this mean WHOLE Axis lose. Which mean Bulgaria is the list of those who lose.
@MKDlover WHich mean that Serbia take Macedonia cuz this is CONTRACT. Which mean Bulgaria not take Macedonia because Axis lose. Which mean that Bulgaria left Macedonia ALONE because Axis lose and the contract of Bulgaria already is ''not alive'' which mean that Bulgarian troops not have what to do anymore in Macedonia.
Do you see how simple minded person you are? You talk horrible bulshits again. Again tell you - IN BOTH WW not have ''Macedonian'' who shot against Bulgarian.
@MKDlover And by the wat, you have to begin to learn any history because every normal human who read your comments got stomach pain from laughting. ;)
@MrSwatbg So, your theory says Macedonians were sitting and waiting who will win :). It means there was no war at all, our people were just listening on the radio who is winning :). And then serbs won and made us Macedonians, despite that previously they were trying to make us serbs for 20 years. This is the greatest Tatarian non sense I spotted on YT so far :). Even out of such non sense, comes a question - if Macedonia has always been bulgarian land, why did you bargain about it?
@MKDlover Yes, macedonians sitting and waiting who will win. Skopje not was country and to BE in the war, to be against or with someone you have to be joined in one of the two unions. When you was not country this cannot happen? Kapish?? ;) And yes, macedoNIST in the moment exist because the serbs and THIS IS NOT secret for anybody. Anybody means WORLD. If macedonia has always been Bulgarian land, why I bargain about it? We not bargain, we had MANY wars FOR you about you no way to know.
@MKDlover And by the way...the macedonians who fought, they fought FOR Bulgaria. Your BULSHTIS about any your grandfather who fought against ''the Bulgarians'' is horrible..really horrible. And can you explain the word ''Tatarian'', uneducated macedoNIST and child of serbian? :?
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When visiting Sofia, Bulgaria, Vladimir Zhirinovsky Russian MP announced that neighboring Romania was, in his view, an artificial state created by Italian gypsies who seized territory from Russia, Bulgaria and Hungary.
Hungaria56 1 week ago
It's rather Real Bulgaria not some "great" Bulgaria.
dnlxl 1 week ago
some people dont understand that greece isnt claming that the land of fyrom is greek...just the term "macedonian"....bulgaria can have the fucking land. JUST STOP USING THE NAME.
Constantine542 3 weeks ago
Skopje belongs to Greece since its Macedonia. Before 1913 they were nothing but monkeys. Now their nation is called Monkeydonia!
KPAracing 1 month ago
I only want a fucking war with these fucking brainwashed bastard-lesbian retards from Vardaska. In 2 hourds they will be fucked hardcore and shut up for ever.
MACEDONIA IS GREECE
mokro97 1 month ago
Hoho. Find Hristo Tatarchev in Wikipedia. "He is considered an ethnic Macedonian in the Republic of Macedonia" it says. And they call us Bulgarians - "tatars". Oh, the irony...
And about that "Macedonia is Greek", well no. No more than "Greece is roman (or Italian) " or "Greece is ottoman (or Turkey)". It happens to be part of the history that is no longer true, because things change. What matters is what people think. If they want to call themselves Macedonian, let them be.
upisoft2 1 month ago
@upisoft2 NO my Mother is Bulgarian and my Father is Serb
so I am 100% Macedonian now .
FYROBABOONSKA1 1 month ago
@FYROBABOONSKA1 100% TRUE
BGkopele 3 weeks ago
Hristo Tatarchev (Bulgarian: Христо Татарчев, , December 16, 1869 - January 5, 1952) was a Bulgarian[1][2][3][4] revolutionary and first leader of the revolutionary movement in Macedonia and Eastern Thrace (the organization was renamed to IMARO in 1906 and IMRO in 1920). He wrote the memoirs The First Central Committee of the IMRO (1928). He authored several political journalism works between the First and Second World Wars. He is considered an ethnic Macedonian in the Republic of Macedonia.
hanibal1981 3 weeks ago
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hanibal1981 3 weeks ago
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Ето ти цитата от уикипедията, ти какво въобще четеш? Да, приеман е за етнически македонец в Република Македония, и за българин в останалата част от света. Нали затова говорим - че кай вас историята е една, а в цял свят е друга? Това да твърдиш нещо е едно, а съвсем друго е да го докажеш. Тук зборуваме за доказателства, а не за празни приказки.
hanibal1981 3 weeks ago
Значи, ядосах се сега. Ама ти с очите си виждаш какво пише в уикипедията, щом го цитираш тука. И със същите тези очи и ръце вземаш само последното изречение (което просто информативно казва че в Македония го имат за македонец човека). Как може да сте такива коне с капаци бре??? Що за хора сте, как може на бялото черно да казваш, след като с очите си виждаш че е бяло? Какво удоволствие въобще ви доставят такива неща??? Та бъдете си македонци - никой не ви пречи. Просто не бягайте от историята си!
hanibal1981 3 weeks ago
@hanibal1981 Цитирам, щото македонците така четат историята (като взимат предвид само забележките, какво мислят те самите). Това, че пише, че Татарчев е българин го пропускат, за справка - мини на македонската страница на wikipedia да видиш. Просто исках да им обясня, че е ирония да викат на нас "татари", като един от "техните" е Татарчев. Да вземат да съберат 2 и 2 и да видят, че сме българи всички, някои с корени от областта Македония. Иначе няма да имат "татар" из техните.
upisoft2 3 weeks ago
in 0:36 indepent macedonia means macedonia out of otamian empire
Joro2933 1 month ago
monkeydonia why you don't try somting biger like put bomb in Bulgarian parlamet ;)
Jindohin 2 months ago
Ahahahahhaha,Macedonia is Greek,Phahahhahahahahhahah what a moron :) the nerv on that man its hilarious.Fuck you,eat shit
Lachezariii 2 months ago
Listen you up you FYROM mother fuckers shut the fuck up and stop breaking balls you are nothing but a pathetic stolen race who liver under false pretense. Just admit you are a fuk up of a race. wasting valuable space on you tube. I not greek i am italian fuk you all.
Twotribes21 2 months ago 2
oh and the song is bulgarian the artist is slavi trivonov showman and singer so brothers macedonians stop sing abot rusenki and stufs like kakva e ona and start to popular ur folklor like us if u want to be real counrty find ur own history and stop coming in my country! if ur poor its not owr fald!
antomntbg9502 2 months ago
ok in my country bulgaria the regoin called macedonia is rich then FYROM they said we are 100% bulgarians i think macedonians shoud stop to come in bulgaria to work coz bulgaria for bulgarians and macedonia for macedonians :)
ps: i am half greek but im not hater and brothers greeks stop to be haters its silly!
antomntbg9502 2 months ago
Macedonia IS BULGARIAN SO FU GREEK
MyRazor1997 3 months ago
@MyRazor1997 dude you know what..
Macedonia wasnt Greek.
and of course it wasnt slavic..
she was chinese..
Yes,,Chinese dude..
Macedonia was chinese..
okay now??
Tolisakis97 2 months ago 2
@MyRazor1997 ehmm dude.i know we are both 14 but please how about we speak mature?what macedonia are you talking about the fake nation called 'macedonia' or the greek region (thesaloniki) called macedonia?
panosmel97 2 months ago
@MyRazor1997 What means ''MACEDONIA'' in Bulgarian language???????
meliritos 1 month ago
you spelled independent wrong.
DanMarik 3 months ago
DEATH TO FYROM FAKE NATION
crazyfabio1 3 months ago
Многу јадете гомна,а во суштина никој нема појма што збори...нетреба само да лупате,бугари и грци вие сте само еден одпад кој што настанал со текот на времето...Еве ви Македонско писмо читајте и се ќе ви биде јасно..
mileebac 3 months ago
Haha greeks... :D = shits of the World! :D
commandosserftw 3 months ago
The real makedonians were makedonians not greek.
thebestracer10 3 months ago
@thebestracer10 the real Fyromians r real Bulgarian gypsy rejects
FYROMustafa 3 months ago
@FYROMustafa i see u need new accounts little fat monkey from SKOPIA
FYROMustafa 3 months ago
FYROM = FUCK YOU RETARDS ONLY MACEDONIA!!
KICK HELL-ASS!!
MrMakedon3c 3 months ago
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Viva la MAKEDONIA 4 all Makedonians but never 4 greeks
Devoj4E 3 months ago
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Think about it: Great Alexander and all of his family and kin had Greek names, they spoke Greek language, wrote in Greek, followed Greek religion and customs in everything, lived in Greek territory. What does that make them? ...Chinese?
afronovaable 3 months ago
Bulgaria,fyrom and Albania are mongols and turkish
TurkeyAlbanianGay 3 months ago
Macedonia is BULGARIAN!
makedonBULGAR 3 months ago
@makedonBULGAR You should be able to read from the sources! Vulgarians came here 1000-1400 years ago. You have no right to the ancient language or name. Bulgarian/Fyromian claims are outlandish propaganda. You gave havok to the place 100 yeras ago, killing and raping. Remember the komitatzides? They were cutting the breasts of women to prevent them from breastfeeding. That's their civilization. Get real. Think, NOW: what EXACTLY is your contribution to world history and civilization. Wake up!
afronovaable 3 months ago
i have an interesting question for Macedonians and Bulgarians.
What do you think about Torlakia and torlakian dialect in Serbia?
Some Bulgarians say Torlaks and Shopi are Bulgarian. In the past, our language was very similar to Bulgarian and Macedonian, even more similar than with regular Serbian. Now our tongue is Serbinised much but i can still understand about 80% of yours.
just type "torlakian dialect" on google and youll find it on viki.
MoshtHrasta 4 months ago
@MoshtHrasta - Torlak dialect is closer to Bulgarian than regular Serbian because it is a dialect of the Bulgarian language. Torlaks are Bulgarians occupying parts of territories which have been taken away from Bulgaria at the Berlin Congress of 1878 and the Balkan wars in 1912-1913 (Specifically and mainly south east Serbia and Northern Macedonia). I have a few friends with such origins whose families have remained in Serbia and I can understand 90% of what they say.
shopgeo 4 months ago
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NOW AT FYROM ARE BULGARIANS AND ALBANIANS.THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION TO THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE GREEKS.PUT IT IN YOUR MIND FYROMIANS ARE BULGARIANS WHO LIVE AT NORTH MACEDONIA NOTHING MORE!!!!!!
VAK1908 4 months ago 10
I feel sorry for the brainwashed bulgarians in Macedonia, you will wake up but it will be probably too late mofos.
Sobrightt 4 months ago
all monkeys living in Greece r just plain lazy SQUATTERS just like @KocoTexas
they r not Greeks,,how could they b ? they r errr hmm turkish-gypsys i suppose!!!
FYROMustafa 4 months ago
@FYROMustafa Is that ALL you can say? Is that ALL your argument? Your truth? Tell me, what is EXACTLY your people's contribution to world civiliZation and history ??? The fact that YOU JOINED THE NAZIS ???
afronovaable 3 months ago
@afronovaable Bite ur tongue,,my great-grandfather fought on the nazi-Albanian
front against the Italians in ww2 and the nazi-chetniks a bit later,,im 100% GREEK
and if u dont shut-up im coming around to chop ur fucking head-off ,,ok?? GRRRR
FYROMustafa 3 months ago
@FYROMustafa If you really are Greek, i rest my case. If not, don't be misled by my girlfrnd's site and cut the threats and the crap! it is easy to play lion when you are not in front of me! I am a MMA fighter and i can rip your ass open in a blink! Comprende? F*ck! If you are Greek, i do not touch you. My grandfather died in the Italian/Albanian war and I have shed my blood on Greek border long before you are born. If you are a true Greek, watch your mouth!
afronovaable 3 months ago
@afronovaable oh noooo but u must touch me TOUCH MY GREEK DICK
FYROMustafa 3 months ago
Κάποτε ήθελαν την Μακεδονία οι Βούλγαροι τώρα οι Σκοπιανοί
некаде како Бугари во Македонија сега Скопјанец
pellamakedonia 4 months ago 2
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Arhs77 4 months ago
Poor MKDlover here is hostile people, we tell the truth
Arhs77 4 months ago
Θέλω εδώ να πω πως αυτό το βίντεο ήταν στις προτάσεις του YouTube και το είδα απο περιέργεια.
Δεν εκτιμώ καθόλου την τελευταία εικόνα με την σβάστικα πάνω στη σημαία των Σκοπίων.
Πρέπει να τους σεβόμαστε αν θέλουμε να πετύχουμε τους σκοπούς μας και να αντιμετωπίζουμε τις προκλήσεις τους με ψυχραιμία, νηφαλιότητα, χωρίς συναισθηματισμούς και με τα πανίσχυρα και αδιαμφισβήτητα στοιχεία που όλοι οι ιστορικοί παγκοσμίως έχουν στα χέρια τους και διδάσκουν επι αιώνες.
ΜΗΝ ΤΣΙΜΠΑΤΕ ΣΤΙΣ ΠΡΟΚΛΗΣΕΙΣ.
franknwalters 4 months ago
@franknwalters Dude, Macedonia i s just locality in Hellas, Bulgaria and FYR Macedonia! It's not country! There it's not have macedonian nation! Understand this!
gato19481923 4 months ago
@gato19481923
I'm not saying there's a macedonian nation.
Also your reply is on my in Greek language post. CAN YOU READ GREEK? 'Cause if you could, you would see that your post is inconsistent to what I'm saying (the posts in english too).
THERE'S NOTHING IN MY POSTS THAT COULD HAVE WHAT YOU WROTE AS A REPLY.
Finaly if what we see in this video is true, the stupid Bulgarian imperialism is responsible for Fyrom's ridiculous parade.
Nowadays Bulgaria is whistling indifferent looking the other way
franknwalters 4 months ago
@franknwalters Αυτό που μπορώ να διαβάσω την επιχείρησή μου! Δεν το πιστεύω μου φαίνεται!
gato19481923 4 months ago
@gato19481923
Τι να του πω τώρα...
franknwalters 4 months ago
@franknwalters Καλή σας μέρα!
gato19481923 4 months ago
@gato19481923
Look,I know you are using a translating machine. Let me tell you what you wrote in your previous message:
"what I can read my corporation. I don't believe I think". Makes no sense...
You don't speak greek and you don't have to.
So, stop showing off or whatever it is you're doing, 'cause you're only making a fool of your self...
franknwalters 4 months ago
Ελλάδα = German fake State as 1876
ΠΓΔΜ = ancient MACEDONIAN Kingdom
Devoj4E 4 months ago
@Devoj4E
You should be friends with your neighbors (the Greeks) who just happen to be the greatest investers in your country.
If Greek investers leave your country, your weak economy will crush down to it's knees...
...and before you start saying anything about Greece's economy, take a moment to think that Greece with all these problems is still in the 30th place of the richest countries globaly.
Think about it while growing up...
franknwalters 4 months ago
@Devoj4E ...Sleep well my friend! Sleep tight!
afronovaable 3 months ago
I don`t get the part where you say "Macedonia is Greek"
DgtedX 4 months ago
since when is macedonia greek ????IS that a joke or something .... People go to school pls
unrealturbos 4 months ago
@unrealturbos
do you know any school books say the opposite?? can name one?
faraget 4 months ago
The South Slavs begun to arrive in the area during the 6th century AD. Until the early 7th century it was colonized by the tribe of Berziti. The Bulgars conquered the city in 867. The name Ohrid first appeared in 879. Between 990 and 1015, Ohrid was the capital and stronghold of the Bulgarian Empire.[11] From 990 to 1018 Ohrid was also the seat of the Bulgarian Patriarchate. And etc etc look it up in wikipedia and there are sooo much books about the mether
unrealturbos 4 months ago
@unrealturbos
link?
faraget 4 months ago
@unrealturbos
i type " Ancient macedonia" in wiki "as you said.. and the first 3 lines say
The Macedonians (Greek: Μακεδόνες, Makedónes) originated from inhabitants of the northeastern part of the Greek peninsula, in the alluvial plain around the rivers Haliacmon and lower Axios. Generally described as an ancient Greek people.
p.s i ve read few books and honestly never read that macedonians arent greek...
can you plz gimme a history book say the opposite?
faraget 4 months ago
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franknwalters 4 months ago
@unrealturbos
YOU KNOW THAT anyone can upload anything on Wikipedia?
The fact that I (me as a person) could upload for example that Australia is a Romanian colony with a "reasoned" explanation on that subject, DOESN'T MEAN that it actually is a Romanian colony.
Also ANYONE CAN EDIT ANY TOPIC on Wikipedia.
So, one have to be a total idiot to use this web page as proof for something, especially on a subject which ALL THE HISTORIANS around the globe agree that Fyrom is trying to rewrite history...
franknwalters 4 months ago
@unrealturbos Since 3,000 years now. Can u etymologize Makedonia or Alexander in the language you speak? Try it if you can, and TELL ME, PLEASE.
Strabo, an ancient geographer (Greek word), who lived in first cent CE, in his Geographica (7a.1.9.3-4) PLAINLY says: ''esti oun ELLAS kai h MAKEDONIA'' (''So, Makedonia, too, is Greece'') . Do you need more ???
CASE DONE AND CLOSED ! Stop misreadings and misinterpretations; whatever u say, you cannot prove that white is black. Period. Over.
afronovaable 3 months ago
@afronovaable thats false the people who lived there at that time were Trakian tribes ... we all know that ... greaks lived in small citys and the people who lived in some of these citys werent even greek but they called them that.Just like they call everyone who lives in russia russian but there not . and so on and so on there were people called macedonians but they were destroyed by the romans and the trakian tribes .Bulgarians live there now !
unrealturbos 3 months ago
@unrealturbos How convenient!!! So, Greeks were only in cities and u were everywhere else! Thracians were of Greek origin Trallians and Agrianes. You must be talking about Illyrians, Dacians and Paiones... (sorry, what period r u talking about? i think u hav it all mixed up) Read more. Anyway, Bulgarians came to the place after the Slavs, with Asparuch in 679. Even Georges Bousquet, Histoire du People Bulgare, p. 7, admits that (he also says that they violently imposed ''Bulgarism'' to all!)
afronovaable 3 months ago
UNITED MACEDONIA!! hell ass suck Macedonian dick!!!
klipmkd 4 months ago
there is a hotel named Independet Macedonia in Sofia because it was the Macedonian who own that hotel, it is so naive to belive that bulgaria wants an indep.Macedonian state, how can that be when bulgarians dont hide that they consider macedonians as bulgarians, one pepole, on nation, is that right?
dimitar27 4 months ago
ELLADARA REEEE MOUNIA !
POKERAS89 4 months ago
the idea of the secont picture is a lie there is wrriten one nation,one king one kingdom!!! and it says Bulgaria and macedonia UNITED
08097887 4 months ago
i cant understand one thing,why do greeks put FYRO"M"ian flags with the sign of Hitler in the middle
and the FYRO"M"ians do the same thing with the greek flag?
i mean they got nothing to do with Hitler
ofc greece doesnt,we faught the nazis in ww2 and we kinda beat em
but we were out-numbered and out,teched
alexchris32 5 months ago
@alexchris32 well i guess they think it shows said country as being "evil" =/ but is a dumb thing to do and is mostly done by uninformed people
btw Greece sort of lost to the Axis in ww 2... it was occupied... (agreeably by the technically superior Itallian army and strong at the time /though not very well equipped/ Bulgarian army)
Monshteiner 4 months ago
@alexchris32 ... Because in WW2 THEY JOINED THE NAZIS, my friend, THAT'S why!
Italians and Albanians invaded Greece, we beat the heck out of them, Bulgaria then JOINED THE NAZIS
and we had four nations against us!...
Except for the crimes they committed, Bulgarians asked from the Germans to have Thessaloniki and other Greek territory.
Yes, our friends who received alphabet, religion and civilization form us Greeks...
That's why!...
afronovaable 3 months ago
In 20 years FYROM has been unable to provide a single piece of archaeological or historical evidence to prove the link between the Slavs of FYROM (or indeed ANY Slavs) and the ancient Macedonians. Nothing, Nada, Zilch. Instead FYROM museums are full of Greek artefacts.
This says more about FYROM's ridiculous claims and falsifying of history than a million badly made Youtube videos.
The proof isn't there because the Slavs of FYROM have absolutely no link to ancient Macedonia or Alexander.
quaabhunter 5 months ago
@Crusad3rTube I know something more funny : there is a small country near Greece and their citizens speak Bulgarian and have slavic names.....They think they are Greeks and they call them selves macedonians !!!! LOL
They are clowns and they build fake statues of Alexander Greek King made in Italy !!!! LOL
They dress up like Ancient Greeks and they celebrate !!!! LOL
They are Monkeys !!! LOL
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
fyro-vardarska = BULGARIA LIKE YOUR LANGUAGE
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@Crusad3rTube You would give your ass to enter but you cant.
And you will never unless you stay away of Greek names and History.
vardarska is your true name and you are slavs that speak BULGARIAN DILECT made by KIRILOS AND METHODIOS.
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
PUSETE KUR DA GI EBAM SITE GRKINJIII PICKI PEDERSKI!
mrpolicemen1 5 months ago
>>Fyrom >> Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
'We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great.' said FYROM'S Ambassador in Washington, Mrs. Ljubica Acevshka .
'We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.' said FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov
MrTriton41 5 months ago
@MrTriton41 WELL SAID! Giv them the speach of K. Gligorov to make it whole.
afronovaable 3 months ago
You want, but you can't
21044012 5 months ago
this means that our name is Macedonia u greek faggot(gayreece or gaylada)
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow When a Greek listen someone from fyro-vardarska saying makedonia , he laughs till death , you know why ?
You cannot even say correct the name of ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ.
Because its Greek word and you write it with latin characters and you say it soooo stupid !!! LOL
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
fyro-vardarska = BULGARIA LIKE YOUR LANGUAGE
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@TalosGreekRobot i need proof that macedonia is greek gice me one not some greek-racist-political crap
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow Macedonians : Spoke/speak only GREEK , had Greek names , had Greek culture, worshiped Greek Gods etc.
Alexander the Great Greek macedonian king spread Hellinism to every place he went.
There is an ancient script with the words of Alexander : Thank Gods I am PROUD I WAS BORN GREEK.
There are soooo many things to proove they were/are Greeks.
But you are soooo stupid to see the truth and you believe all the shit they tell you in vardarska.
Tito did a great BRAINWASH to you.
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow Your names are Slavic names and your language is Bulgarian dilect that was made by 2 Greek priests Kirilos nad Methodios.
You say you speak macedonian language !!! LOL
There is no such a language because macedonians like all Greeks speak Greek.
Its like you say that spartans speak spartian !!! LOL
Are you sooo stupid ?
Now tell me what does the word ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ means.
I am sure you dont know....You must be Greek to translate a Greek word.
And you are not......
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@TalosGreekRobot WE WON YOU 72-54 that day will stay in our history + when alexander busted ur skulls 300AD
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow Just like the day before 2 years when we fuck your mothers with 32 points difference.
Remember monkey ?????
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
p.s Like your politics have admit ( there is video in youtube) , you have NO HISTORY so you had to CREATE ALL THESE LIES WITH ALEXANDER AND MACEDONIA.
If you want i can find the link.....
But when you see it then you must go and kill your politics !!! LOL
Bye bye monkey do ninja !!! LOL
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ = ΕΛΛΑΔΑ
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@TalosGreekRobot that was years ago..this is now ....and like you have politics..bitch please ..if u had good politics you wont be in crysis and now ur stealing history from us,,food from turks and money from EU shame on you gayladda
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow no monkey , i know 3 of your politics who on camera admit the truth and the 2 are not many years ago.
We are stealing history from you ??? LOL !!!!!!!!
Stop drugs.
Can you answer 1 time my question : what does the word ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ means ? I am sure you dont know because its an ORIGINAL GREEK WORD.
What about ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ ?
Answer me monkey. Can you read the ancient macedonian scripts ? NO !!!
I can !!!!
So tell me monkey , you still think you are macedonian ??? LOL
monkeys
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@TalosGreekRobot im on the greek side, and the fyroman liers disgust me. but can you tell me what does that word mean? :D. im just interested.
FinMilkku 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow
Who said,," For the Glory of my beloved homeland FYROM " ??
A. Bob McCalebbvski the Great ahahaha the great NIGGA piiiishh
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow U want PROOF? HERE's proof.
And since we talk about geography, what better than an ancient geographer of 1st cent CE?
Strabo, in his Geographica (7a.1.9.3-4) MOST PLAINLY and CLEARLY says: ''esti oun ELLAS kai h MAKEDONIA'' (''So, Makedonia, too, is Greece'') . [IF u were a real Mak,edonian, u wouldn't need the translation]
At the time he wrote, there were no Slavs, no Bulgarians, but ONLY GREEKS!
Read sources. I read 'em since i was a boy.
CASE DONE AND CLOSED!
afronovaable 3 months ago
@TalosGreekRobot greece=gypsys+niggers+racist(nazi)+turks
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow FYROM= pathetic former bulgarians who think they have the great history of MACEDONIA and think their macedonian, but they whole world knows the truth and laugh at you stupid slav-ass....
FinMilkku 5 months ago
@FinMilkku do you even know what is slav or u just know that you are gayladda.. btw i hate politics so im not viewing ur propaganda shit...farewell Gayreek gypsy
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow Σκασε μαλακα σκοπινε.
Γαμω την βαρδαρσκα σου ΠΟΥΣΤΗ.
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@FinMilkku + flagged bye bye greek nazi im not viewing ur comments anymore which u will troll urself
fightwarriorshadow 5 months ago
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@fightwarriorshadow wow that is so pathetic. you know im right, so you don't read my comments anymore. eventhough i know you will read this. fyromanians are slavic wannabe macedonians, who steal other countries history. good thing nobody believes you shit-ass losers. PS. im not greek, you idiot.
FinMilkku 5 months ago
@FinMilkku My friend its useless to argue with comi brainwashed people, there is a hole lot of inscriptions that are in Greek dorian dialect same dialect Spartans used
Arhs77 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow LOL
Σκασε ρε ΜΑΛΑΚΑ σκοπιανε
Γαμω την μανα σου πουστη.
Γαμω την βαρδαρσκα σου.
TalosGreekRobot 5 months ago
@fightwarriorshadow Come on! GET SOME LEVEL, IF you can!
Greeks were the first to fight and WIN the Axis powers in WW2. The Danes surrendered to Hitler's motocyclist, for heaven's name! French lasted only a few weeks. Greeks beated Italians and Albanians and then had four nations against them. WW2 was won of US.
Where were you?
YOU JOINED THE NAZIS! THAT'S where you were. Cut the crap and shut up; you were on the side of a lunatic who bloodshed the world and you have the nerve to speak?
afronovaable 3 months ago
@MKCAMr LONG LIVE GREATER ALBANIA.....GRRR GRRR GRRR
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
Greek Is Macedonia ;)
MMpecat 5 months ago
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February 24, 1999: The FYROM.'s Ambassador to Canada, Gyordan Veselinov, in an interview with the "Ottawa Citizen", he admitted: "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are Slavs and our language is closely related to Bulgarian. There is some confusion about our identity
JIMY45GR 5 months ago
viva Fyromustafistan...down with chetnik-monkeys...viva Greater Albania...GRRR
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
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"Let us not allow the splits and splintering to frighten us. It is, indeed, a pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one common disease. If this disease had not been present in our ancestors, from whom we inherited it, they would have never fallen under the sceptre of the Turkish Sultan... "
(Gotse Delchev, IMRO leader, Letter to Nikola Malashevski, Jan. 5 1899)
JIMY45GR 5 months ago
greeks DNA is TURKISH, all off the world knows that, greeks today don't have anything with the ancient greeks, if they were alive they will be shamed from you... Plus, you greek people fuck your mothers and sisters, what's up with that??? Shame shame shame... Such a retarded nation!!!
KocoTexas 5 months ago
@KocoTexas lol your fucking retarded. modern greeks have the same blood as the ancient greeks. while FYROManians have nothing in common with the ancient GREEK macedonia. im gonna forgive you since your american, and clearly don't know shit about history and the world.
FinMilkku 5 months ago
Great video !
VETO TO FYROM
athanatiEllada 5 months ago
@athanatiEllada greeks DNA is TURKISH, all off the world knows that, greeks today don't have anything with the ancient greeks, if they were alive they will be shamed from you... Plus, you greek people fuck your mothers and sisters, what's up with that??? Shame shame shame... Such a retarded nation!!!
KocoTexas 5 months ago
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@KocoTexas come to FYROM Kumonovo if you want to see TURKs
Skopje if you want to see Albanians ,,,,Stutca Gypsies ,,, Strumica , Bulgarians
hahahahaaaaaaaaa NO Macedonians left in Macedonia !!!! BUaaaaahahahahahaaa
FYROMINJA 5 months ago
@KocoTexas f you really are from america, then it explains why you are stupid, because 78% of the americans believe that rome is in romania and that italy is france and they don't even know anything about outer continents. The neogreek DNA was proved to be related to ancient greek DNA by scientists, who stated that only 4/7 of the ncient greek DNA remained on the new greek DNA. So: YOU WERE WRONG! I AM RIGHT! EAT MY SHIT AND DUST! Here's a spoon.
tonysoldan 5 months ago
@KocoTexas ooh u disgusting monkey,,and to think i bum-fucked ur hairy mom!!!
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
@FYROMustafa You don't want to fuck my mom, we all know that you want to fuck YOUR mom, you incest piss of shit... That's why you "so called" greek nation is look alike...
KocoTexas 5 months ago
@KocoTexas ur mom just made me a nice Bulgarian breakfast...GRRR
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
@FYROMustafa You mom and sister made me a great MACEDONIAN diner, and I came in their face from satisfaction!!!
KocoTexas 5 months ago
@KocoTexas = FYROMonkey = a Bulgarian speaking Slav dressing-up (fag)
as a GREEK yes yes yes a GREEK warrior...u bum-fucked Vardarskan gypsy!!!
Ud better learn to speak Albanian or go back to mama-Bulgaria...allah akbaaar
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
@KocoTexas
i want my 2 goats back...ur hairy mom has saggy tits,,3goats4ur sister ok?
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
@FYROMustafa Hey goat fucker, go fuck your sisters, they are great, beleive me, I KNOW!!!
KocoTexas 5 months ago
@KocoTexas hey come down to Macedonia,,,the SEA would do u good
FYROMustafa 5 months ago
@FYROMustafa I am in Macedonia, you little cunt...
KocoTexas 4 months ago
@KocoTexas <<< GREEK wannabe...he chetnik red-monkey POOF
FYROMustafa 4 months ago
@KocoTexas You should know that there are several studies from American Unis (cf. Stanford) proving that modern day Greeks have nothing to do with their neighbors and everything to do with our ancient forefathers. Do your homework. And leave your inferiority complex aside. Lest you tell me,
what EXACTLY is your people's contribution to world civiliZation and history ??? The fact that YOU JOINED THE NAZIS ??? Get real and wake up!
afronovaable 3 months ago
The fyromians in the Republic of fyrom, and Macedonian minorities in Greece, Bulgaria, and Albania, continue to proudly call themselves "Macedonians" and consider the "Slav" label an insult and racial slur. The western press was literary bombarded by mails, faxes, and emails from outraged Macedonians who despised being called "Slavs" during the Albanian aggression on Macedonia. in fact fyromians are bulgarians since samuel s capital was ochrid.. 2/3 of fyrom is bulgarian and 1/3 albanians
JIMY45GR 6 months ago
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@JIMY45GR greeks DNA is TURKISH, all off the world knows that, greeks today don't have anything with the ancient greeks, if they were alive they will be shamed from you... Plus, you greek people fuck your mothers and sisters, what's up with that??? Shame shame shame... Such a retarded nation!!!
KocoTexas 5 months ago
нека се мислят за каквито щат.Но да признаят Историяата !!!!
Сръбската пропаганда ги е превърнала в това което са и не ги виня на Макетата , но прочетете историята и се свестете малко !!!
На всеки камък го пише ,на всеки свитък ,всеки който се е бил за Македония е казвал аз Българин... и т.н. с ясното самосъзнание да се освободи тази част на България от Турско робство!Векове наред сме 1 народ с 1 език.Сърбите направиха това с цел да използват благата на Македония.Страшна пропаганда .....
buho681 6 months ago
@buho681 Aко мислиш дека нација се креира со пропаганда, тогаш си во заблуда. Остави ја настрана Македонија и пробај да се сетиш дали постои во светот нација креирана со пропаганда. Зарем се Македонците светски феномен? А кои тоа богатства Србија ги искористи од Македонија? Како и секогаш, и давате преголемо значење на српската улога во Македонија.
MKDlover 6 months ago
I support Republic of Macedonia!!!
BulgarianTsar93 6 months ago
Oh I forget to add - Great Bulgarian song!
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
This video only shows that Macedonia can not be only greek . For the rest, I have only one counter question - if we were really bulgarians, how come Macedonians got their freedom by fighting nobody else, but Bulgarians?
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover u r shit nothing as stated at the UN&EU...how come YOU dont
know that mr.FYROSVKI?? u must grow-up and give-up ur Turkish identity
forthwith,,stop thieving everything&enything GREEK and NO more islamic
sex with Mustafa the ATA-otto-PSYCHO ok??Behave like ME a human-being!!!
ratzP 6 months ago
@ratzP You are not a human being, you are damn greek rat (as your profile says). You are low educated scum and I am glad you have no argument to counter me.
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover = Mustafas Dick-Shine Boy,,,spit spit away commie-bitcheeeees
ratzP 6 months ago
@MKDlover hey Fyrovski,, u must stop taking advice from the badasses the
islamist Psycho Pirates of the Med.=Turks...NO more Minarets in FYROV bitch
Vote for FYROV its a vote for islamist Turkey,, SO,,2fuck with both of u PUSSYS
ratzP 6 months ago
@MKDlover Read WORLD history (not macedoNIST and serbian history /macedonian books and books wroten by serbian autors) and you will found answers to all of your questions.
Macedonian or macedoNIST..this is the question! :p
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg World history before 1940 or earlier.. you will see fakts from REAL Bulgarians from the region of Macedonia (republic of Skopje today) ... and then compare it with all bulshits you say and write and by choosing to what to believe you will know you are Macedonian or macedoNIST.
If you not want to find history from then...we can see only with 3 questions: Why the great Tsar Samuil you steal him as ''macedonian''?
Why you steal Alexander the Macedonian?
What language you speak?
Thank
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg Aand also other thing which the Greeks maybe still do not know but in republic of Skopje have him in the list of ''macedonian rullers'': WHy you, Skopians steal Basil Bulgaro-killer as ''macedonian''? :))
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg And the answer is Macedonian. Why should I care what any foreign historian would say when I had my grandfather fighting against the bulgarians in WW2? He was priceless source of historic information, he was part of the events, not a writer. His father was member of VMRO and was killed by the vrhovists (bulgarians) due to his view that Macedonia should be indenpendent and united. How could I be a bulgarian when my ancestors were fighting against the bulgarians?
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover And the answer is Bulgarian dialect. Well, you talk about WW2... and what you know about WW1, buddy? Who saved your ass in Doiran while fighting with Greece, England, France and Serbia IN SAME time (4 vs 1)? Do you know about the Macedonians who died for Bulgaria in ALL wars before? Do you know why Bulgaria joined in Axis?- To back macedonia as western Bulgaria again. Do you know WHY and WHEN republic of Skopje began to gain ''potential'' of a single country and CAUSE WHO?
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover Do you know that your grandfather cannot change the history? Cannot change the origin of republic of Skopje? I not want to insult and dispute with you. I want we to make one civilizated dialogs with fakts (I hope you are diferent than some people there). Do you knows how many thousands Macedonians died FOR united Bulgaria?
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
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MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover Do you also know why before years the history was wroten by Serbs? Do you know what happened while Skopje was in the Serbian hands? Dude, do you ever see REAL videos from Skopje when Bulgarian troops enter there (Do you know why they do it?) and the people were happy to see them like coming heaven? Because we were occupators? - NO, this one Serbian and already big part of Skopjans will say it... but read dude... and you your heart can take it..I can send you video.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover And also...do you know when for first time ''Macedonian'' and ''Bulgarian'' became two diferent things? Do you know when for last time the people in Ohrid go to Sofia as now I go from Sofia to Burgas?
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg Leading question :). Macedonian and Bulgarian have always been different things, despite your efforts to make us same. I don't understand the second question - people from ohrid can still go to sofia and vice versa.
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover Can you answer to the other questions or do you dare we to talk about it in own messages? :)
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover I meant as two cities in one country, buddy. And I'm sure you understood very well :) .. I wait answers to the other questions ;)
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg Ohrid and Sofia were in the same country only from 1941 until we kicked your butt in 1944. I responded to the second question and can't see other questions.
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover Dude, you said horrible bulshits. Skopje not was country then and Skopjans not fought for and against nobody ;). So, what you tell me about your grandfather is big lie.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover Let remind you some things: In both WW have 2 sides - Allies and Axis. Allies - USA, England, CCCP, France and others. Axis - Germany, Italy, Japan, Bulgaria and others.
Bugaria is in Axis because have contract - IF Axis win, region Macedonia is Bulgaria again. 13 December 1941 Bulgaria declared war to USA and England.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
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MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover Then USA bombed Sofia AND Skopje. Well, how your grandfather fought with ''the Bulgarians'' while Bulgarians ener in Serbia and Greece with fire but not ''occupating'' Sjope..while Skopjans not was with Allies but not was with Axis too? How you can fight with someone when you are not in any union in the war and you not have enemies in the war..when you are not joined in the war? You talk horrible bulshits.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg I don't understand your stupid logic. After kingdom of yugoslavia fell apart in 1941, bulgarian fascist army entered easily to macedonia because there was no organized force to resist. Instead of one occupator, another came. The only force to organize the resistance of the people was the communist party. And so it happened, the Macedonian Communist Army was established in order to liberate Macedonia from the bulgarians. With huge support of the nation, we made it and you lost again.
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover Do you really not understand or you kidding? You can understand that MACEDONIANS NOT FOUGHT FOR AND AGAINS NOBODY in BOTH WW because Skopje not was a country then. You grandfather NOT fought against nobody and you cant lie. Bulgarian troops entered in Skopje because there were the Serbian troops. Serbian contract with Alliance was - If Alliance win, Serbia take Macedonia. If Axis win - Bulgaria take Macedonia. How you can talk horrible bulshits and you fear to open book.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover I'm really not surprised... its horrible that you not know nothing about WW2 but lie how ''your grandfather fought against the Bulgarians''... Bulgarians entered in Skopje and the people welcomed them with hugs and clapping and HAVE VIDEO from then and there ;) . I guess your grandfather was Serbian, because macedonians NOT fought with nobody then ;)
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg Well, than how come bulgarians left Macedonia? If the people loved you, who forced you out? Was it the serbs which were never more than 2% of the Macedonian population? :) Furthermore, if your army was feeling among its own people in Macedonia, how come they did massacres (the most famous in Vatasha) and killed thousands of people? Have you seen videos of how bulgarian army withdrew from macedonia? :) I understand your historical frustrations, but can't help you.
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover How you can be that simple minded person? I will remind you - IF Axis win, Bulgaria take Macedonia. IF Allies wins - Serbia take Macedonia, That are the CONTRACTS of Bulgaria and Serbia to join in Axis and Alliance. Bulgaria won ALL battles in WW but the Germany lost against Allies. When Germany lost against Allies this mean WHOLE Axis lose. Which mean Bulgaria is the list of those who lose.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover WHich mean that Serbia take Macedonia cuz this is CONTRACT. Which mean Bulgaria not take Macedonia because Axis lose. Which mean that Bulgaria left Macedonia ALONE because Axis lose and the contract of Bulgaria already is ''not alive'' which mean that Bulgarian troops not have what to do anymore in Macedonia.
Do you see how simple minded person you are? You talk horrible bulshits again. Again tell you - IN BOTH WW not have ''Macedonian'' who shot against Bulgarian.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover And by the wat, you have to begin to learn any history because every normal human who read your comments got stomach pain from laughting. ;)
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MrSwatbg So, your theory says Macedonians were sitting and waiting who will win :). It means there was no war at all, our people were just listening on the radio who is winning :). And then serbs won and made us Macedonians, despite that previously they were trying to make us serbs for 20 years. This is the greatest Tatarian non sense I spotted on YT so far :). Even out of such non sense, comes a question - if Macedonia has always been bulgarian land, why did you bargain about it?
MKDlover 6 months ago
@MKDlover Yes, macedonians sitting and waiting who will win. Skopje not was country and to BE in the war, to be against or with someone you have to be joined in one of the two unions. When you was not country this cannot happen? Kapish?? ;) And yes, macedoNIST in the moment exist because the serbs and THIS IS NOT secret for anybody. Anybody means WORLD. If macedonia has always been Bulgarian land, why I bargain about it? We not bargain, we had MANY wars FOR you about you no way to know.
MrSwatbg 6 months ago
@MKDlover And by the way...the macedonians who fought, they fought FOR Bulgaria. Your BULSHTIS about any your grandfather who fought against ''the Bulgarians'' is horrible..really horrible. And can you explain the word ''Tatarian'', uneducated macedoNIST and child of serbian? :?
MrSwatbg 6 months ago