Twist and Slice Kayak Roll Identifier.

[bore2008]

Great instructions gracias,

[Onlinepoetrycafe]

This guy's voice sounds like he'd answer the door to a huge mansion... Helloo Sir... May I take yohr pahddle...?

[Spartacus2809]

Hi Chris , i want to say to you "thankyou so much" . I`m quite new to kayaking and am currently on a !Star BCU course in the UK . I`ve watched the video`s you post on You Tube in relation to the various rolls . Last night (10/6/11) i had my first rolling lesson in the pool with my instructor . The upshot was that i nailed my first ever roll on my fifth attempt and then went on to do over 20 more successful rolls on my first session . Big thanks again . Keep up the good work . Neil .

[PandrolDale]

After viewing many times and new to rolling it tried this techniquehowever when transfering the simplistic movement described my paddle descended far too deep rather than skimming just below the surface of the water. Not made one yet

[randomguynathan]

so pretty much an eskimo roll?

[MegaPaddles]

try doing this roll in a hole or on a wave when the pressure of water is upon you, then you will see why it should not be taught, the movement is too rigid for my liking

[Thelesman22]

@MegaPaddles done it many times in holes on big water. It works.

[chiloeleone]

How are old are you? How many rolls have you tried to do? You sound like the Taliban of kayak rolling MegaPaddles. We all like civil comments please refrain from insults. IF you have a legit comments we are all ears. Otherwise we will delete your comment.

[chiloeleone]

How are old are you? How many rolls have you tried to do? You sound like the Taliban of kayak rolling MegaPaddles. We all like civil comments please refrain from insults. IF you have a legit comments we are all ears.

[MegaPaddles]

@chiloeleone i have been kayaking for 20 years and trust me i know what im talking about, im a playboater at heart and use many different rolls, in fact i do a good few hundred rolls every weekend i would love for you to come and keep up with me and tell me how wrong my rolls are but i will guarantee they are near perfect every time, this clip shows you how your going to get injuries very quickly by leaving your shoulders in a vulnerable position for dislocation

[speusa]

@MegaPaddles

Who said how wrong your rolls are? We have made zero comments on your roll. You sound a little sensitive to me. If you do not understand the no hip snap part of this roll........... you are not feeling the magic of rotation in this roll. Most people do not understand it untill they feel it the first time. If you think it puts pressure on the shoulders you are not doing it right.

[bass109]

Jesus is coming soon! repent and prepare for the lord

[tarakkiyot]

overcomplicating a simple action, as if it is a rocket science.

[RichardRayinJH]

Spe - I remember a great day spent in the old above ground pool at Sundance talking about blocked counter rotary couples and the three rotations. Good to one of us is still at it.

[LadyGismo]

looser

[LN4oRinzR]

@cathalfolan yeah it is possible to

[CathalFolan]

No matter where you are the movement is the same. It is possible to roll without paddles.

[piketyl000]

thats gotta be a lot different when your in huge rapids and what happens if you lose your paddle

[Brett19696]

@piketyl000 dont let go of your paddle lol

[Rettungspfleger]

Dankeschön!

[4Freedomrider]

So far I'm getting good practice at wet exits. I just need to practice more.

[RhondaCaswell]

Oh my gosh! Chris Spelius !! How are you? GREAT to see you (even if it is only on You Tube).... I remember when you were creating this roll on the banks of the Ocoee River in 1986 and I was your student guinea pig!!! It's a fantastic roll... 20+ years later and I hope I can still do it.... My 19 year old daughter is very interested in Kayaking.. go figure... maybe we'll see you soon in Chile...Hope you and your family are well.... (rhonda caswell baker)

[0448mht]

How do you hold your blade under the boat? Does it rotate with you?

[GoneToHelenBach]

Fantastic tutorial. I'm new to kayaking and it was my mission to learn to roll as quickly as possible. Me and my bro have just been out for our fourth session in our kayaks and with the help of this tutorial we both successfully rolled for the first time.

No swimming pools, no hands-on professional instruction, just a river, some knowledge gained from Chris Spelius' videos and a lot of determination.

Please check out our video Fourth Time in Our Kayaks on my YouTube page.

Thanks!

[chachowantafanta]

If you squint your eyes, it seems like a slightly effeminate Henry Rollins talking about kayaking.

[speusa]

I do not understand the question. Pleaase explain in more detail.

[0448mht]

do you let your blade flip while in motion under the kayak?

[LiveLife2thefunnest]

This just looks like a standard set up moving to a back deck roll......

[dirtysteev]

i was just out trying this roll but only hit it about 20% of the time. i was paying close attention, and i felt i was performing the same movement each try, and sometimes i would pop right back up, most times just flounder. blade angle maybe?

[jstrings00]

what if i don't have a skirt thing for my kayak? will water get in and prevent me from flipping back over?

[SharpeyN]

@jstrings00 Here in the UK, we call the "skirt thing" a spray deck but in US, it is known as a spray skirt. It is possible to roll without it, but your boat will fill with water. I have found in the pool that it takes about 3 rolls without a spray deck to totally fill the boat.

[speusa]

Neils2809,

That is the perfect question about this roll. There is no hip flick as has been described in other videos and literature. The hips do move the kayak upright due to the diagonal rotation of the torso. Flicking the kayak using the thigh braces and the butt cheek is something that is done in other rolls. You have just pin pointed the magic of this roll.....it does not take that effort as you describe it lifting the knee. Just rotate to the back corner and voila!!!! you are up.

[Neils2809]

@speusa Thanks very much for helping me with your answer to my question Chris. It`s much appreciated. Keep up the good work.

Take it easy.

[Neils2809]

For a complete beginner could you please explain the " Hip Flick " during the Sweep Roll as in the video .

How excactly is it done and at what point during the roll / sweeping of the blade .

Is the lifting of one knee / thigh used to start the flick ?

HELP .

[TheMolzymay]

Thankyou that makes it slot clearer I gave been trying to beat my dad doing the roll for weeks

[speusa]

Thanks for the nice comments. It makes my day down here in Futaleufu on a rainy day.

[gardogg65]

I watched over 25 rolling videos and went for my first pool lesson today. I failed to roll every time! ROFL! That crap is SO hard! Next time! I will not give up!

[ggudding]

@gardogg65 Good. Do not give up. I was disheartened at the end of my second lesson, but I made a strong determination that I wd not give up. I tried a different boat, learned to stab off the bottom in a shallow pool so that I could try repeatedly w/out instructor aid, & eventually, w/ intermittent instructor aid, I got it. Then I cemented it in muscle memory as best I cd by repetition. Then I lost the roll, got it back w/ instructor help, lost it again, & got it back again. Mind over water.

[begguyasommer]

he makes it look so easy. I hope we get to work on that today!

[UKMadsalty]

Any tips for making rolls stick when it's in freezing cold whitewater?

[JPN55]

Good video -- still the best roll technique, i think. Done with a strong sweep, the paddler should be up when the paddle is perpendicular to the boat. And the body doesn't have to lean back toward the rear deck. I first did this roll by moving my rear (left) hand to the paddle blade for a extended paddle roll. When i got better at it, i dropped the change in hand position. It's important to get the body curled toward the surface to raise the center of gravity.

[mokelumnekid]

Great video! I've been working on this roll. I also found the dvd/video called "The Kayak Roll: Learn Tune Teach" to be *extremely* helpful for a beginneer like me. Most dvd outlets will have it. It will save you a lot of time and thrashing around once in the pool.

[josite100]

Excellent video - been trying to roll for some time now under guidance from friends who correctly explained the starting/end positions but didn't emphasize the importance of using your core rather than your arms to do the work. My rolls up to now were brute force; now I rotate my torso and it is truly effortless - many thanks.

[RHINOJAVA]

Thank for teaching my brother,Chris!...[Seattle,WA]

[IGXProductions]

I taught myself this roll using just this video, and got it on my first try! (my second didn't go quite as well). Thanks for putting these out!

[TheOllyole]

Great video i think i will prefer this roll, the current one im trying to get my head around is quite similar, im being told to start in the same position, then when im upside down push the paddle at the back down 6inches, then twist body to face side of kayak and twist paddle so it is at right angles to the kayak, then move towards the opposite quadant (back right) of the kayak to where i started and flick my hips as i do this, i found this diffcuit as it is a lot to do when your upside down

[speusa]

Remember if you think of the paddle as an extension of the movement of your torso, it becomes a unified movement and very fluid... Just make sure that torso is going through the entire movement correctly and with some energy. If you move your Torso diagonally across the kayak from one side to the other with rotation intersting things happen magically with your hip....causing you to right yourself.

[ggudding]

@speusa Thank you. Your videos have helped me tremendously. Your nuanced and clear instruction are superb. I hope you have an idea as to how great a teacher you are. I would not be rolling today if it weren't for these videos.

[123z3000]

Tried it in the pool.....:) It works....:) Thank You for your Help

[speusa]

Thanks for your comment!

[123z3000]

Love your video, Using it to learn to roll. But haveing difficulties.

Comapring the Twist and Slice with the back deck sweep roll.

At the start both look very similar... until right at the end in the Twist & slice roll, the face is looking down the lenth of the paddle body twisted and in the back deck sweep roll, the face is looking up with the body facing forward..

Is that the key differance?

[speusa]

You are perceptive. Look carefully the thing in common is that the paddle is moved by the moving Torso. HOWEVER watch the movement:

the twist and slice the TORSO rotates which bring the hips and the boat in underneath ones Torso.

The back deck the Torso LEANS back and swings to the rear. It is hard for me to believe how different the mechanics feel and how hard it is to see the difference visually. They are way different mechanics that are getting one up. Thanks for your comment

[mokelumnekid]

A am a newbie but when this works- it is like 'magic' and when I mess up my rotator cuff takes a beating. Am learning to be very careful about that. I've only been able to dao about 6 rolls so far.

Chris- thank you for posting this. Wish you had a school a little closer to Seattle, the air fare to Patagonia is a killer....

[jimmyloup36]

Thanks - I appreciate your help. I do have a disk bulge in my lower back which I have been treating with physio and yoga. But sitting in a kayak tightens (especially a river kayak) up my hips pretty good making my forward bends a bit limited (I cant lay as far forward as I would like or move as fast as I would like). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again for you videos - I have lessons tonight and hopefully going to nail the twist and slice roll once and for all!!!!!!

[speusa]

Jimmy, The first thing I would say is to make a plan to stretch your ham strings.....loose hamstring really take the pressure off you back while sitting in a kayak. Find out what causes more problems with the back.....leaning back leaning forward rotation???? tell me motions are limted and what the problem with the back is. I can recommend which roll would be the least stressful in your situation.

[jimmyloup36]

These are by far the best instructional videos on the net that I have found. I have been doing this in a pool with mixed success. I have a bit of a back problem that cause some mobility issues in that I can't the the forward bend at the beginning as far as I would like.  Do you have any recomendantions or know resources I can watch?

[speusa]

Thanks, I tried to distill this down to just the absolute core properties of the roll. It is meant to indentify the roll someone does. The objectives of the video were to clean up the names of the roll around the world. However many have found they can learn from these videos. When I am teaching I use many more strategies to get someone to learn it, probably a 45 minute video. But this is the essence, I really appreciate your comment. Chris Spelius

[13boarding]

its hard to be a good teacher on a video but you manage to do it>

[speusa]

Great.

[jumbonambo]

Thanks Cris, now i can do it.

Have a nice day :-)

[Judd97]

Nice video. I've just started kayaking and so far, this is the only roll I've completed successfully. Like Soleary, I find that cocking your wrists slightly helps it become much more fluid. Now I just have to practice as much as possible so I can get those body movements down to second nature.

[speusa]

Haze901.....thanks for that comment.......Believe me studying of videos and then comparing oneself with a video is a real stimulant for learning faster. Underutilized considering everyone has a little video camera now and can post online. Athletes in most sports use this in a big way. From Football to competitive swimming

[haze901]

Very great videos, Spent over £200 on lessons and managed to roll a couple of times, but did much better after studying your videos, thanks very much.

[soleary0339]

This is now my roll. I was using the sweep with a full paddle purchase and it was good but cocking my wrist about 5 degrees on the set up causes the bladed edge to go over the top of the water making the roll easier with a lot less effort. Great video. It took my about 1 year to master and i feel i can do it in any situation.

[speusa]

Thanks alot for the comment. If you body core goes through the movement and your paddle is just connected to the Core this baby will work.  HOW THE body moves is the ticke.

[Paddlefaster93]

Great stuff Chris. I was getting my roll 50 percent of the time, after watching this carefully I haven't missed one since. Can't wait to see the hand roll video.

[speusa]

Thanks for the comments. I think that is a very good idea. I will add to the series when I can film on the Futaleufu in Chile.

Chris

[whizroc]

Many thanks for providing your videos. I took a five-session class and couldn't get a roll. Watched this video, went back to the pool, and 1st try I was rolling. Currently getting 100% of them.

I'm ready to hit the river, but first how about a video lesson on basic bracing technique?

Thanks again!

[scowley93]

can someone tell me why you would want to roll. I want to get into the sport but i just cant understand why you would want to roll the kayak

[speusa]

Well if you are going to learn to play or run challenging whitewater....you will tip over during the learning process. If you know how to roll it takes away all fear and your learning curve accelerates. Chris

[scowley93]

ok that makes sense. thanks! i am 16 and i am going to buy a kayak for use in my lake. what are some tips when buying one?

[speusa]

Figure out what type of kayaking you are going to do. Lake paddling, slow rivers, whitewater and I suggest getting a boat used. Search the internet for this and you can save alot of money. These boats do not wear out.

chris

[scowley93]

ok thanks. i will mainly use it in lakes. i saw a kayak at our sporting goods store for 200. is that going to be too cheap?

[tecnolover2642]

The main difference I see is that with the back deck sweep roll your blade slice angle is a bit different as you are coming up with the head laying back on the back deck. With the sweep roll your head isn't laying on back deck and you finish unwinding the torso in an upright position.

[speusa]

That is a great question. It is very hard to see the difference. They are different however. Twist and slice goes front left to back right but with rotation of the Torso and the slicing non resisting paddle blade. It also does not require a conscious hip snap. Sweep roll blade sweeping on the surface with an angle, hip snap half way and coming up in the back corner. visually hard to note difference. But the feel with in your own body greatly different.

[bosco99999]

Chris thanks for the brilliiant videos. You are a true legend.

Quick question: Is the sweep to back deck roll in your other video (front left quadrant to back right quadrant) the same as the Twist and Slice in this video. It looks same to novice like me.

[ta338012]

Great video -- the slow motion is especially helpful. I find the sweep roll is 10X easier than the C-to-C, it's less complex, and it's quicker.

[Patriaga]

Thanks, I nearly drowned without land practice but somehow managed it in a very awkward way... that was stupid considering I accidentally tipped over close to the cuty pier. Good thing I found this video.. lol... gonna try not to tip over again though..^^ lol

[darkkatanamaster]

The rapids are a "Little more WILD" than a heated swimming pool.

[kyaker123]

yes but you dont learn in rapids do you.. not unless you plan on either drowning or failing miseribly you smart mouthed little arse! If you wanna show us how to roll with the full speech and everything in rapids then do it ... until then fuck off... sorry to da other viewers of this video for my er inapropriatte language but i hate wise guys!

[leoalex12]

wow...cant get more graceful than that....

[superdonyoungy]

I keep hitting my paddle on the bottom, my rear hand seems to hit the boat and I am sweeping the forward blade downwards, which makes me push off the bottom. I've tried with a mask on to watch my technique but I am sure I'm missing something because I can't get the sweep out to the side. I've also had a shoulder op last year so I need this to be semi effortless, not the failed wrenching that's not working. Any tips?

[Maxandtheletter7]

my mum rolls better than that

[Mookaw1]

i know : )

[speusa]

ahh awesome,,,, let us know if you mum has kayaked the Futaleufu. I know of only one that has so far and that is my MOM!

[goooooofygoober]

he looks like a water ninja...

[moh2o]

This is the roll I do, I learned from others when a beginner. then I watched Dan Crandall's video called the Kayak roll. He teaches the 'Sweep' roll. Now it is all I do. I never learned the 'C to C'. I can do the back deck roll, and sometimes a hand only roll, if I feel good.

Excellent Demonstration, BTW.

[kyaker123]

1:24

[gotdavid14]

thanks for the videos, after learning the c to c i managed to do the twist and slice on my first attempt.

[speusa]

the pawlatta roll is thought of as a extended paddle sweep roll. Is that what you are doing? It is more forgiving as on has great leverage when they extend the paddle out. I think there are advantages to learning a roll that does not require a shifting of the paddle in your grip . But on the twist and slice you have to be really doing the body motion or it will not work. Really learn the movement out of the water first. If you do that I think you will be able to teach yourself.

[kyaker123]

ok but ive lost confidence but what your saying with the pawlatta is exactly right. I actually dropped the ppaddle as i went over once so the shifting of hands isn't too big a deal as long as i can hold my breath for long enough. I can really, i just dint take a deep enough one when tried the t and s roll!

[charlzie94]

amazin, cheers very muck, amazin!

[speusa]

Thanks for the feedback. I really believe in watching these little things over and over and visualize yourself doing it ....and it will happen.

[kyaker123]

too right, thanks again!

[speusa]

Of course that depends what country you are in . In the USA you can pick up a good used kayak for 400 usd

[clepto4peace]

anyone have advice on buying an affordable kayak like this? Used is probably a given with my budget. Whats the lowest I could pay without compromising quality. any brand or store recommendations?

[manik1234567]

so many dimwitts out here. you can argue and scream but there is no such thing as a perfect roll, one that will work all the time. the technique here is really good, effortless. on serious white water the roll sometimes fails and if you have good techinique then you will have enough power to try again.

[chiloeleone]

Hey you guys lets be civil. This is just one of many ways of rolling a kayak. A very interesting way that uses diagonal rotation movement of the body to get the job down. Much like when you drop a cat upside down it can right itself before it hits the ground with out "scraping" or touching anything. In fact the key principal of this roll is to shed the resistance of the paddle and let it slice. One CAN do it by scraping the paddle, but you will not feel the effortless magic of this movement.

[kyaker123]

You know your stuff. Im gonna try rolling in a river for the first time on tuesday and i was wondering if you could just remind of the key points of the roll syuch as paddle position etc. I would be ever so greatfull. Thankyou!

[speusa]

The main thing is memorize the body movement on dry land with no pressure............Do what ever it takes to do the same in the water. DO NOT let your survival intuition take over. It is not harder on the river than anywhere else.......

[kyaker123]

Thanks but i was talking to someone else, cus your not good..... your legendary!

[kyaker123]

I don't believe your an olympic trainer or whatever, not to mention the fact that you clearly know nothing. The paddle is what rolls the kayak because of the tension on the water, just ask Mr Spelius here. He knows best!

[kyaker123]

Finally, the L1 R1 crap seems like you've taken the controls of a ps3 and used them rying to make out you know what you're on about. DON'T BOTHER!

[kyaker123]

zman thts wrong, the pushing out of the paddle is what rolls the kayak. It scrapes along the surface and the tension allows you to come up as oppiose to staying in close which is more like stroke underwater. just watch the end of his paddle, it scrapes the water to roll chris up!

[zman293]

you move too much when you roll, try not to flick your arms out too far or the kayak moves uneccissarily(excuse the spelling) i can quite easily do this roll with minimal movement, so not as to be critical but i recomend trying to perfect your roll further.

[kyaker123]

ey no need to be snappy

[amerje123]

I totally agree, after struggling 2 years to learn a roll I now have a solid roll thanks to this short clip! Thank you

[kay834]

You are great!! Thank your posting these great video's. You are a great instructor as well very clear. Thanks

[speusa]

Thanks i appreciate it. WE are off to the hot springs with our entire staff this morning for a employee roll session here in Chile.

[SharpeyN]

This video has helped me immensely!

My roll is far better because of it.

If I can improve on what has been said, skimming the paddle on the surface, draw a semi circle on the water surface with the tip of your blade from the front left of the boat to the right rear (or vice versa) of the boat keeping your eyes on the tip all of the way. Do not try to heave yourself out of the water using the paddle. Your body will automatically twist bringing the boat up.

Many thanks for posting it.

[kyaker123]

Best comment Ive read and the most accurate, i noticed how this worked in the video before i saw your comment. Your explanation will help me immensely as Im teaching my mates to kayak in an eighth of the time I had and this has been the best description yet. I will use this so thanks even though you probably didn't intend it to be like that. You should teach with Chris lol!

[Iris421989]

this guy has no hip kick which means that his sweep is really good, but hes going all the work with the paddle, use your whole body!

[speusa]

Now that is one of the most common comments about this roll if one has not felt the magic of it. If you think of hip snap (c to c ) type of movement as the only way to get the kayak up then this is hard to understand. But the entire body is being used....it is being used through rotation and the paddle just glides along, it is not the paddle that gets one up it is the torso rotating one way and the hips ROTATING the other way. This roll is difficult to understand, try it and feel the magic.

[Iris421989]

I completely agree, by rotating your torso and your hips in opposite directions you are using some force on the surface of the paddle, while some the motion comes from your core and yet more comes from your legs. However, in my experience I have always found that on a failed roll attempt I can trace it back to a lack of hip kick. (Either that or a submerged paddle due to incorrect angle of the blade)

[speusa]

Iris,

this is a key discovery on this roll if you can try it. It is not a hip snap like we know in some of the other rolls. ie an effort to get the boat upright before you start to come out of the water no it is the diagonal movement and rotation...... much like how a cat rights it self in the air if you drop it upside down. The cat cannot touch anything but through rotation it changes its orientation 180 degrees. The paddle is only a guide.....Iris in a sense this a roll without a hip snap.

[enviroguy101958]

The one down side to this roll (as I learned first hand) is that if you don't make your roll you are in an exposed position. This can result in face meeting underwater obstructions (aka rocks). It is very easy and efficient though.

[aria230]

i have just managed to do a half sweep roll. Is the full 1 harder?

[p1ay8oater]

this guy is gr8. he is the only one on the tube that explains things first instead of showing off

[grasseater108]

True; a lot more helpful than the 'show offs' too.

[HighlordAsteroid]

I thought the screw roll was from the bow rudder position. This just seem like a slight variation on the back deck sweep roll...

[HighlordAsteroid]

Nevermind, i'm thinking of the reverse screw roll.

[speusa]

it looks like a slight variation but the principal of the slicing paddle and the rotation really is a different energy source for getting you up. Look slight different. Feel major league difference. Chris

[hooneroids]

thanks very much ... im just starting to learn rolling and your videos are excellent, i think ill concentrate on the twist n slice and the c and c to start with .. once again thank you

[backbonz]

This is the roll i learned to do. The key for me, was rolling the leading wrist back like throttling a motorcycle. Total key for me. Chris mentions slicing the blade thru the water, but i never got that feeling till i learned to rill the wrists. Then, it is truly effortless. I have to revisit the details on occasion or i get sloppy.

[speusa]

Well Backbonz reading your comment lets me know that you really are doing that roll. The magic of this roll does not happen unless you roll the wrists like you say, causing the paddle to slice. IT REALLY IS EFFORTLESS IN A WAY THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE TILL YOU FEEL IT. Sometimes I use that exact analogy of the motorcycle throttle and if other things are in place that is what closes the deal with the student. Thanks for your comment.

[mk7574]

So this is very identical to the Back Deck Sweep roll... is this easier?

[nucklejam]

I paddle an ll hoss and since getting it, rolling is more challening. This is my roll of choice for high sided boats like the hoss or lil joe

[Jogospy]

i have mastered the art of rolling(including hand rolling) and i must say that the twist &slice is my roll of choice.the paddle acts as a support when rolling the boat is done by swinging.

[chiloeleone]

Sounds like you not only understand how this roll works but you feel it also.

[moh2o]

Excellent! That is the roll I do. I try to keep my head down in the end, as described in the video "The Kayak Roll" by Phil and Mary DeReimer . Yes It is effortless. If done right. It is all in the set up and hip snap and twist.

[MidgardEagle]

How come next to no kayak roll videos inform the viewer that they're not a substitute for a real rescue class with real people?

[Jogospy]

Today in the training i did the c to c too hastily and put too much strength and my shoulder was killing me.

[unicinctus]

If its any help at all, i got over that by making sure that the paddle and my right hand were firmly touching(basicly the paddle along the side of my face and the back of my hand on my forhead) making sure i keep them touching until the end of the roll. that way the body has to do the moving rather then your arms... this also helped me keep my head where it should be and not to bring it out of the water too early, stopping the roll from working.

[theracingrhino]

My friend had been kayaking in a hard shell only once. Never tried rolling even. I threw him in the pool last night and after trying a c to c a couple of times i suggested this roll, he busted it the first time with NO strain. This roll is effortless and effective thanks Chris!!

[Tibarus]

I've learned my roll from a guy would taught most of the people on the Canadian national team and believe me, this "roll" is horrible. I mean just look at the stress he puts on his shoulder, absolutely no core rotation what so ever.

[moh2o]

it is all in How you do it. Keeping the elbows in and using the torso , one does not need to stress the shoulders. If you let the elbows go out and sweep with the arms,(instead of the torso) you WILL destroy your shoulders. Most people do not do it correctly.

[eastcoastsurfer06]

Once again, where is the stress, sir?

[Tibarus]

Yet another idiot preaching old and shitty tactics to the inexperienced. It's a wonder these people have ANY use of their shoulders left.

[chiloeleone]

Very thoughtful and supported comment. What is your educational level?

[eastcoastsurfer06]

Actually, if you watch the video youll note that at no time does Chris break the box, if you will, that keeps your shoulders from dislocating. His chest faces his paddle shaft through the whole motion. Also, i think the reason they have use of their shoulders is in fact because theyre doing it correctly every time. You need to shut up.

[kyaker123]

The shoulder movement puts the hips into action. They help roll the kayak, its all technique in kayaking using the bodies strongest muscles. Not strength from the arms!

[babebibobu0]

Very useful and well explained videos for C to C. Thanks.

[Kuviasuktok]

I left a comment on your C2C clip and I was going to say that I think the sweep is more graceful than the C2C. And here you say the exact same thing. Given that you have to bring the paddle 90 degrees for the C2C anyway, why wouldn't you just complete the sweep and roll rather than stop momentarily to set up for the C2C? Very useful and well explained videos. Thanks.

[speusa]

YOU ARE RIGHT< I teach all these rolls, in fact I teach more C to C than any of them and I would have to agree with you........the twist and slice roll is one continuous movement...no change of direction..thus it tends to be more fluid for most paddlers.....but they are all smooth if practiced enough by experts. They are all good and they work

[unicinctus]

ive opted for C to C to start with BECAUSE of those set seperate movements. i felt i could get it right more easily and/or more quickly. with 3 short movements to remember instead of one longer one. The other rolls look nice and smooth, but to me it looks like there is more chance of getting them wrong and therefor being under water longer. I want to have a go at all of them but the CtoC felt like a solid safe first option.

[leguillou07]

very welL, expressed and movie...

[greencoveredbridge]

excellent video. thanks.

[wildweaselbob]

It would really help to see roll videos also shot from the rear of the kayak, looking forward. When the camera shots are only taken from the front, it can be difficult for a novice to visualize the movements required since he will be looking to the bow of the kayak. Bob

[handicapable124]

that make me feel better when i kayak cuz im in a chair and i really cant swim cuz im younger..so ill remember that when i go again

[speusa]

Certain body positions above the water.....that relative to the kayak are exactly the same for initiating the roll under the water..... the kayakers body is unstable.

We PRACTICE THIS on dry land where they can learn the exact motion without worry. Then in the water with an instructor by them to balance them. THEN THEY GO FOR IT UNDER THE WATER.

[g05948]

hiya im just gettin into the sport and was just wondering how to do a balance brace mabey u cud upload a video ov it 4 me thanks appreciated and where r u from

[Christos88]

Tried this yday and i just went round in a circle lol, though my dad managed as though it was nothing. (not on my vid, thats a month old)

[Christos88]

*im also left handed donno iif it makes a diff.

[LittleMcguire]

Good lesson..Good instuction..

[juanaurssimona]

que cara de garca tiene el ayudante que esta atras!

[myjunk10]

Well, it's a good video, but don't use same directional rolls as you use to capsize your boat. What I mean is, it's WAY easier to roll up when you keep your momentum from capsizing going in the same direction, so it's not as good to demonstrate the roll. Capsize one way, then show me how to roll up going BACK the other way, so I know there's no advantage of momentum making it look easier than it really is.

[Chumkil]

Most beginners tend to like the momentum assisted rolls. But any roll works on either side without momentum.

Chris is just demoing it in the most common way that it is used by beginners, which makes sense.