SonofPan makes a lot of valid claims. I would also like to say that while age is just a number, psychologically the frontal lobe is not fully developed till ya hit about 22, so you're not able to become a high priestess till then. Self-initiation doesn't really make you a high priestess, it makes you a devotee.
There are many that are ordained that can perform funeral rites through pagan seminary.
Wiccans still believe in God, they just separate one concept into several (Gaia being one)
I am a Wiccan High Priestess, I am fourteen years old, I am bisexual, I am not ugly or fat, and I really disagree with this video.
I agree that people should be proud of who they are, but I also think that you shouldn't share your opinions in such a vulgar manner. PLEASE, sister, this does not help our case!
@MissFangbanger A spiritual title that should not be held by a child, no matter what the age of your soul might be. Pope, by the by, is also a spiritual title and is actually much like a high priest or priestess in many respects, only on a larger scale. If you're a high priestess, are you prepared to minister to anyone? I don't mean evangelize, I mean minister to others. Are you prepared to cast circle as the head of a group that doesn't just consist of high school friends? What if someone dies?
@THEsonOfPan A High Priestess is a title of respect and power, and I wouldn't have taken such a step had I felt unready. However, "Pope" is more political. He represents the Roman Catholic ideals in politics, something I do not consider just. I do not suppose to have control over my fellows' lives. They live it by themselves, as Gaia wished for us to do.
What do you mean by "dies"? We will all die eventually. And what makes you think that I would endanger someone? We are not sorcerers.
@MissFangbanger I'm talking about funeral rites. Are you prepared to be at someone's bedside as they pass away? Are you prepared to care for the family through the grieving process? Are you prepared to put someone in the ground? Also, the pope, while political, IS a spiritual leader. He represents the political manifestation of catholic religious ideologies which is something that every priest or priestess does even if it's not at an international level.
@THEsonOfPan Funeral rites. Really? Most high priests and priestesses aren't legally qualified to do this sort of thing.
Not to mention that it is not the way we lay the body to rest, but how the soul passes on. We do not focus on what will happen when one of us dies. We focus on serving Gaia in the present. That's all she could ask for. It's what we are born to do.
As for being prepared for grief and easing pain, I am as prepared as any parent, child, etc would be for a loved one to pass.
@MissFangbanger To say that my religion has a 14 year old high priestess makes a laughing stock out of the position and even the religion itself. It takes years of hard work and learning to actually earn that title. You don't just take it for your own or happen by it. There's a lot of power and responsibility that comes with that title because there will be situations requiring a level of strength, maturity, and experience that someone as young as you just won't have.
@THEsonOfPan Years of hard work. Right. How many years have you been a Wiccan?
Also, THEsonOfPan, you should know that age has nothing to do with strength, maturity, or experience. I've had more unfortunate experiences than most people have in a lifetime.
And saying that I make our religion a laughing stock is quite rude, and frankly spawns from a lack, or corruption, of education.
You may believe what you will, but I am simply following the will of Gaia and finding my own moral path.
@MissFangbanger It's not rude, it's fact. Unfortunate experience alone does not qualify you to be a priestess and to say that a high priest or priestess is not qualified to perform funeral rights shows your lack of understanding of the basic duties of such a position. That, in turn, is what should prevent you from addressing yourself as such. I myself refrain addressing myself as high anything. I know, though I have been wiccan for almost six years, that I am not qualified to be a high priest.
@MissFangbanger That's not counting the year that I spent as a mormon in the Aaronic Priesthood. Though we were not taught funeral rites and such (that was left to the higher priesthood) we were taught other rites and blessings that we were to perform. But again, it was not a title we just took for ourselves and paraded around as. What makes it a laughing stock for someone like you to claim it is that there is no evidence, no proof of qualifications or training, and no adult oversight to...
@THEsonOfPan Judging from the number of comments this one message took and the amount of time and space we wasted discussing this, I find that neither one of us has anything to gain from this conversation.
I am effectively ending our exchange with this:
You are entitled to your beliefs and I to mine. Let us end this quarrel as we should. On good terms.
I'm a Guy & chunky & Wicca Proud of he fact am not ugly BUT i can *lose* my weight lol and LOL@looks what does LOOKS got to do with being a wiccan? for that matter all religions? we dont look the same, some are fat,chunky,skinny,some what skinny,black,white people, short,tall i can go on and on with this, LOOKS has NOTHING to do with being Wiccan...just be who you are if others dont like it they can go suck a monkeys cock & like it. my girl friend was Wicca shes skinny and pretty good looking
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)
You know whaat I don't get either? Is: "What is wrong with being fat? Gay, Lesbian,or Bi?" They need to leave religion out of people's life style and health choices!! Me being Lesbian and wiccan is mere coincedence! Not because I'm lesbian! Sometimes I swear no has a brain anymore!!
actually love i put wicca socially on the back burner because of all the bisexuality and homosexuality. now yes im older, but you are beautiful. i dont think cap was stereotyping cause i have seen some really strange shit, and not magic either. wicca is over run with gay, bi, and fetish, and thats not what our religion is about
- Continuing on from the last comment that ran out of space -
I'm assuming that you are American - because in all my time I have never encountered another similar to myself in Australia. You seem an interesting character - if somewhat quick to "express" with various questionable words (lol).
Despite your evident beauty and words bearing truth - I fear the ignorant stereotypes of "we" people will stay - in time they may disappear but not right now. All in time - patience.
I am quite positive that this video was posted a long time ago and that the conversation here has died down to some extent, though if you ever do look at this reply again I would be honored if you would reply.
I both believe and know that what you are saying is true - being Pagan (I know it isn't Wicca - but Wicca was constructed with many elements of Paganism - enough to be included) I am not ugly either - albeit plain-looking - with only intellect and physique to distinguish me.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, I am a neo pagan and I just want to you cannot be half wiccan and half athiest, also I will say 95% of the wiccans I know are bi so I get why he thinks that
Wiccanism...That's a good one. Sorry, but I jus couldn't resist what with all your talk about "Getting facts straight" and such. There are several more "Facts" that you don't seem to be very "Straight" about, but I won't lecture you.
Hmm so you just told CapnOAwesome to get his facts straight even tho the video was surely made as a joke, to "get his facts straight" yet you call Wicca you're religion BUT you continue to call it "wiccanism" rather than what it is whihc is Wicca.
My question is........... why dont you get you're facts straight as well at least enough facts to call it by the correct name.
hat made no sense at all. Yest there are different denominations of wicca, like Gardenarian for example. But it's still Wicca, or Wiccan. There is no such term as Wiccanism... trust me... I've been doing this stuff for a LONG time.
A more detailed list of problems with the "modern priesthood" in pagan faiths can be found on Pagan Centered Podcast, Episode 84
RosesofAmber 1 month ago
SonofPan makes a lot of valid claims. I would also like to say that while age is just a number, psychologically the frontal lobe is not fully developed till ya hit about 22, so you're not able to become a high priestess till then. Self-initiation doesn't really make you a high priestess, it makes you a devotee.
There are many that are ordained that can perform funeral rites through pagan seminary.
Wiccans still believe in God, they just separate one concept into several (Gaia being one)
RosesofAmber 1 month ago
good job
mattcrow6 3 months ago
I am a Wiccan High Priestess, I am fourteen years old, I am bisexual, I am not ugly or fat, and I really disagree with this video.
I agree that people should be proud of who they are, but I also think that you shouldn't share your opinions in such a vulgar manner. PLEASE, sister, this does not help our case!
Blessed be.
MissFangbanger 4 months ago
@MissFangbanger how the hell are you a high priestess at 14 years old? No wiccan in their right mind would make a 14 year old high priestess.
THEsonOfPan 3 months ago
@THEsonOfPan Actually, it's only in THIS lifetime that I'm fourteen. Chronologically, this body is fourteen, not this mind.
Besides, High Priestess is more of a spiritual title, not something like the Pope (the current one, by the by, sucks.)
MissFangbanger 3 months ago
@MissFangbanger A spiritual title that should not be held by a child, no matter what the age of your soul might be. Pope, by the by, is also a spiritual title and is actually much like a high priest or priestess in many respects, only on a larger scale. If you're a high priestess, are you prepared to minister to anyone? I don't mean evangelize, I mean minister to others. Are you prepared to cast circle as the head of a group that doesn't just consist of high school friends? What if someone dies?
THEsonOfPan 2 months ago
@THEsonOfPan A High Priestess is a title of respect and power, and I wouldn't have taken such a step had I felt unready. However, "Pope" is more political. He represents the Roman Catholic ideals in politics, something I do not consider just. I do not suppose to have control over my fellows' lives. They live it by themselves, as Gaia wished for us to do.
What do you mean by "dies"? We will all die eventually. And what makes you think that I would endanger someone? We are not sorcerers.
MissFangbanger 1 month ago
@MissFangbanger I'm talking about funeral rites. Are you prepared to be at someone's bedside as they pass away? Are you prepared to care for the family through the grieving process? Are you prepared to put someone in the ground? Also, the pope, while political, IS a spiritual leader. He represents the political manifestation of catholic religious ideologies which is something that every priest or priestess does even if it's not at an international level.
THEsonOfPan 1 month ago
@THEsonOfPan Funeral rites. Really? Most high priests and priestesses aren't legally qualified to do this sort of thing.
Not to mention that it is not the way we lay the body to rest, but how the soul passes on. We do not focus on what will happen when one of us dies. We focus on serving Gaia in the present. That's all she could ask for. It's what we are born to do.
As for being prepared for grief and easing pain, I am as prepared as any parent, child, etc would be for a loved one to pass.
MissFangbanger 1 month ago
@MissFangbanger To say that my religion has a 14 year old high priestess makes a laughing stock out of the position and even the religion itself. It takes years of hard work and learning to actually earn that title. You don't just take it for your own or happen by it. There's a lot of power and responsibility that comes with that title because there will be situations requiring a level of strength, maturity, and experience that someone as young as you just won't have.
THEsonOfPan 1 month ago
@THEsonOfPan Years of hard work. Right. How many years have you been a Wiccan?
Also, THEsonOfPan, you should know that age has nothing to do with strength, maturity, or experience. I've had more unfortunate experiences than most people have in a lifetime.
And saying that I make our religion a laughing stock is quite rude, and frankly spawns from a lack, or corruption, of education.
You may believe what you will, but I am simply following the will of Gaia and finding my own moral path.
MissFangbanger 1 month ago
@MissFangbanger It's not rude, it's fact. Unfortunate experience alone does not qualify you to be a priestess and to say that a high priest or priestess is not qualified to perform funeral rights shows your lack of understanding of the basic duties of such a position. That, in turn, is what should prevent you from addressing yourself as such. I myself refrain addressing myself as high anything. I know, though I have been wiccan for almost six years, that I am not qualified to be a high priest.
THEsonOfPan 1 month ago
@THEsonOfPan We could totally call PCP effect on Wiccanism though
RosesofAmber 1 month ago
@MissFangbanger That's not counting the year that I spent as a mormon in the Aaronic Priesthood. Though we were not taught funeral rites and such (that was left to the higher priesthood) we were taught other rites and blessings that we were to perform. But again, it was not a title we just took for ourselves and paraded around as. What makes it a laughing stock for someone like you to claim it is that there is no evidence, no proof of qualifications or training, and no adult oversight to...
THEsonOfPan 1 month ago
@MissFangbanger ...verify your claims.
THEsonOfPan 1 month ago
@THEsonOfPan Judging from the number of comments this one message took and the amount of time and space we wasted discussing this, I find that neither one of us has anything to gain from this conversation.
I am effectively ending our exchange with this:
You are entitled to your beliefs and I to mine. Let us end this quarrel as we should. On good terms.
Blessed be. ☼
MissFangbanger 1 month ago
yep ur not fat,ur not ugly, just stupid, wiccanism wtf?? Idiot!!
MrOribear 5 months ago
You tell'em (craft) Sister. LOL
Cheers!
noelonespeshul 6 months ago
your really hot actually.
rdrstar 6 months ago
I'm a Guy & chunky & Wicca Proud of he fact am not ugly BUT i can *lose* my weight lol and LOL@looks what does LOOKS got to do with being a wiccan? for that matter all religions? we dont look the same, some are fat,chunky,skinny,some what skinny,black,white people, short,tall i can go on and on with this, LOOKS has NOTHING to do with being Wiccan...just be who you are if others dont like it they can go suck a monkeys cock & like it. my girl friend was Wicca shes skinny and pretty good looking
zeustruth 7 months ago
@zeustruth may she R.I.P, i love you jessica.
zeustruth 7 months ago
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"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)
MagicTellaVision 8 months ago
Your religion is bullshit. Sorry.
ninjamatic5000 9 months ago
I am Wiccan and I am lesbian and I have to say that I do not agree with this video.
kinaarashiano 9 months ago
ok how about this? on June 6, 2011, lets all post a spell on some wicca/witchcraft/pagan hating video! pass this on to your friends!
FsuFreshBeast 9 months ago
You know whaat I don't get either? Is: "What is wrong with being fat? Gay, Lesbian,or Bi?" They need to leave religion out of people's life style and health choices!! Me being Lesbian and wiccan is mere coincedence! Not because I'm lesbian! Sometimes I swear no has a brain anymore!!
crazysox99 11 months ago
The Craft film wasn`t real?
xmoroseguyx 1 year ago
hell yeah beautiful i am with you
172000456 1 year ago
you are good looking ?!
sweetgyy 1 year ago
ur really cute actully
flurge13 1 year ago
I am a Wiccan and I have grown so tired of all the name calling and bashing. It's just beyond ridiculous! "Let it be" people.
TheJulieShow 1 year ago
actually love i put wicca socially on the back burner because of all the bisexuality and homosexuality. now yes im older, but you are beautiful. i dont think cap was stereotyping cause i have seen some really strange shit, and not magic either. wicca is over run with gay, bi, and fetish, and thats not what our religion is about
jeffmac1971 1 year ago
- Continuing on from the last comment that ran out of space -
I'm assuming that you are American - because in all my time I have never encountered another similar to myself in Australia. You seem an interesting character - if somewhat quick to "express" with various questionable words (lol).
Despite your evident beauty and words bearing truth - I fear the ignorant stereotypes of "we" people will stay - in time they may disappear but not right now. All in time - patience.
JordanCrombie 1 year ago
I am quite positive that this video was posted a long time ago and that the conversation here has died down to some extent, though if you ever do look at this reply again I would be honored if you would reply.
I both believe and know that what you are saying is true - being Pagan (I know it isn't Wicca - but Wicca was constructed with many elements of Paganism - enough to be included) I am not ugly either - albeit plain-looking - with only intellect and physique to distinguish me.
JordanCrombie 1 year ago
'Wiccanism' lol
WeooBeans 1 year ago 6
your not ugly your right about wicca
172000456 1 year ago 2
Thanks :)
AdairSchuler 1 year ago
venussatanas a wiccan satanist has the most thumbs up on this video hahahahaha!
thrasher1100 1 year ago
noone is ugly our fat
Tranksdofuturo 1 year ago
dang, u got a bf, haha jk, ur pretty though, so ur proof not all wiccans are ugly
joshwillms666 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this Vid. Merry we meet!
Just stay on the path that seems right to you. Wicca IS a wonderful religion and by the way, Blessed be girl!
Naw, you are not ugly. Simply beautiful!!
You are beautiful really.
Just remember; Wicca excepts all shapes, sizes, sex, orientation.
Have a wonderful year in 2010.
Love yourself so you can love others. :)
Merry we part.
)O(
PANdemicWITCH 2 years ago
noone is ugly
LukeVuitton 2 years ago
Blessed Be sister
freddymagick 2 years ago
"i dont eat pussy" i loled haha you rock :)
shaneyd38 2 years ago
@shaneyd38 Yeah but tht part bothered me cuz I'm lesbian...It sounded like she had a problem with those who do..
crazysox99 11 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHA, I am a neo pagan and I just want to you cannot be half wiccan and half athiest, also I will say 95% of the wiccans I know are bi so I get why he thinks that
Jackofdiamonds770 2 years ago 3
Blessed Be, Sister
)O(
GuardianOfTheElement 2 years ago
What about the wicca man, those women were crazy lol
tellul8r 2 years ago
wow i believe in nature....dude believe dosnt mean worship you dumbass
doomsdale91 2 years ago
Your right, but Wiccanisum aint a word, sorry.
Magick20089 2 years ago 3
I believe you should cast a spell on him.Make him grow hairy breasts......
stai12 2 years ago
Wiccanism...That's a good one. Sorry, but I jus couldn't resist what with all your talk about "Getting facts straight" and such. There are several more "Facts" that you don't seem to be very "Straight" about, but I won't lecture you.
93 93/93
Oz
ozzzz156 2 years ago 3
I don't think you understand wicca any more than he does.
The "wiccanism" thing kind of gives it away. That's like saying Islam-ism or Christianity-ism.
seancris11 3 years ago 2
And if all Wiccans *are* fat and ugly, so what?
jimi4kali 3 years ago
Hmm so you just told CapnOAwesome to get his facts straight even tho the video was surely made as a joke, to "get his facts straight" yet you call Wicca you're religion BUT you continue to call it "wiccanism" rather than what it is whihc is Wicca.
My question is........... why dont you get you're facts straight as well at least enough facts to call it by the correct name.
Bonez666W 3 years ago
same way you call it
Christianity if you are Christian
There is different branches like there is in Christanity i can list
Protestant
Lutheran so you cover all of Christianity not just a specific one.
and Catholicism.
if you are catholic
some people i know dont want to be under "Christianity" title
WIccianism to Wicca
i looked at a book a long while ago for wiccianism and Paganism too and there is different things
dragonmissy 3 years ago
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ozzzz156 2 years ago
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hat made no sense at all. Yest there are different denominations of wicca, like Gardenarian for example. But it's still Wicca, or Wiccan. There is no such term as Wiccanism... trust me... I've been doing this stuff for a LONG time.
ozzzz156 2 years ago
Yeah he's an ignorant dude, don't sweat him.
SpearofDestiny0 3 years ago
....... sorry to be the third person to type is but.. "wiccanism" (^-^)
VioletBob 3 years ago
you are NOT fat or ugly and you should be proud to be a wiccan. Forget the ignorant naysayers.
VenusSatanas 3 years ago 16
The religion is called *Wicca*. Practioners of the religion are called *Wiccans.* There is no such term as "Wiccanism"
I've sent you a link to a video I made. Please watch it. Peace.
ShadowArtist 3 years ago
..."Wiccanism"...? Lol.
lynnvryett 3 years ago